battlefield-legacy-titles

[icy sluice]

It was a player-made plug-in I think

[normal marsh]

I guess I'm still wondering why that isn't something the devs have fixed then.

[icy sluice]

!!lfg @fiery badge

[ruby trail]

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#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[shy badger]

wait a second

Both the selbslader and zh have faster bullet velocity than the kark?

[icy sluice]

Yeah

[shy badger]

why is that a thing

[fiery badge]

lol FG????

[icy sluice]

Looking For Group

[fiery badge]

yeah?

[solid hinge]

Every semi auto rifle has faster bullets than the kar

asides from possibly the model 8 and rsc

[shy badger]

Yea aside from them

Even the assault sars are faster

Fun fact, the gun with the fastest bullet velocity is the modele 1944 with the high vel bullets

[stone needle]

Mm

[fiery badge]

@icy sluice yeah im looking lol

[toxic obsidian]

What platform

[solid hinge]

tfw MAS with high vel has borderline 1000m/s velocity

[toxic obsidian]

If Xbox go to #lfg-xbox

[fiery badge]

PC windows

[toxic obsidian]

#lfg-pc

[solid hinge]

tfw the lee enfield has 500m/s velocity

[toxic obsidian]

No it doesn’t

Does it

[solid hinge]

It does in game

Some of the smgs have faster bullets than a sniper

[shy badger]

There's no way

Is it a typo or are Dice just trolling us?

[toxic obsidian]

I actually want to know

[solid hinge]

The snipers in this suck

Lee has 500m/s, m95 and Ross have 600m/s and krag and kar have 700m/s

every single other semi bar the model 8, rsc and pistol carbines have higher than that

[shy badger]

The ZH and selbstlader are also 2 shot at any range

So what is the reason to use any bolt action over them?

[acoustic light]

Hi

Y’all talking about Scout Class guns?

[prime pine]

SLR's are more flexible

[solid hinge]

Literally only for the headshot kills

The ZH and selb are SO much easier to use

It's not even funny

[prime pine]

Rsc is nice

Its incredibly satisfying getting those stripper clip reloads

[plush bloom]

Anyone looking for new ps4 players? my psn is stingray2112. Send me a request

[icy sluice]

!!lfg @plush bloom

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[acoustic light]

Any of y’all have Spirit Guide (if you play BFV)?

[solid hinge]

Spirit guide?

[acoustic light]

It’s the guy on the cover in the BFV Gamescom trailer

You can get him in the armory when he appears

[icy sluice]

I do not have it

Spirit Guide was also in the beta, the British Recon

[acoustic light]

I wonder when it will appear again

The closest soldier I have to it is Tornado Alley

[little raptor]

DICE, I cant stand the wait

preview some Chapter 5 stuff :(

I wanna charge with a Katana

[steel agate]

We still have Battlefest to finish up

Two more guns

Maybe even a spooky surprise for Halloween (?)

[echo turtle]

Those skins temp found might be a Halloween present if they're going to be used

[solar vale]

Hey

[solid hinge]

So what happened to the mechanical arm from the trailer for BFV?

[echo turtle]

Vanished

[solid hinge]

Is that why there's no long hair either?

[solar vale]

Which class usually has the maximum top players

[solid hinge]

I just got the game and noticed all the women have like no hair

[echo turtle]

That was a bug

[solid hinge]

Am I the only one who's had the non stop V1 glitch on underground?

I played rush and it was just blaring in the background from start to finish

[opal gyro]

Hey guys need help https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/dh4ftt/battlefield_not_using_gpu/

plz

[icy sluice]

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[opal gyro]

thanks

[short pecan]

@opal gyro does this only happen with bfv?

[opal gyro]

Yes

[short pecan]

weird..

[opal gyro]

I recently started it and I've always got high fps

I get around 80 just with the CPU but my GPU isn't using anything

I used to have raytracing on so i'm not sure and it's for sure not bottlenecking

[short pecan]

yeah thats odd

[opal gyro]

Just wish the community knew. I just see threads with people w bad PC's and they are bottlenecking but that's not my issue. I don't want to contact EA since it takes about a hour to get in contact

[short pecan]

if it was happening with other games as well i would have told you to check your bios settings but if its just bfv idk how to help

[opal gyro]

well thank you for responding

[short pecan]

maybe something with your driver settings?

[opal gyro]

I recently updated it

so not sure

[short pecan]

maybe its possible that it somehow disables the gpu while running bfv, i dont know if its possible but maybe worth going through the settings

[opal gyro]

so it's for sure something w DX12

because I just shut it off and it runs like butter

but that's strange because I've played w Raytracing at high FPS

so not sure whats going on

[short pecan]

hmm

maybe the driver update broke something, can you roll back to the previous version?

[icy sluice]

Do you guys think you should be able to top-off the M1 Garand when it comes to V?

[solid hinge]

Yeah

Well, im not sure

[icy sluice]

I personally think so, but it'll take a bit to do so

[solid hinge]

I'm still having troubke getting my MG-42 topped off

Im on the last mastery challenge

[icy sluice]

You know what topping off means, right?

Just so we're on the same page

[solid hinge]

Ive always been told it means getting good by my brother

But ive learned to not trust him over the years

[icy sluice]

Uh, not what I am actually meaning here.

[solid hinge]

So sorry for misunderstanding

[solar vale]

Guys got a question..is it just assault class that can set you high abive the leaderboard or can be done with other classes as well?I know exceptions will always be there but what's the general trend as per you

[echo turtle]

When you load a new mag with 1 round left in the chamber

[icy sluice]

I mean weapon reloading, by inserting rounds into the clip

[solid hinge]

Ooooh

[echo turtle]

So instead of 30 rounds you have 31

[solid hinge]

We might be able to

It just depends on what scopes we'll have

[icy sluice]

@solar vale You mean leaderboard as in the global leaderboards or the match leaderboard?

[solid hinge]

I know for sure we'll have the reflex sight

[solar vale]

@icy sluicesay both

[solid hinge]

But I'm not sure if we'll have 3x

[icy sluice]

M1 Garand is going to the Assault class, so we'll probably get the Reflex Sight, 3x and either the 2x close range scope or the Aperture

@solar vale I'm usually the top man on my team and I am a Recon main

[solid hinge]

Im top in rush using assault

[solar vale]

Okk

So what's your advice as recon

@solid hingeand advice as assault please

[icy sluice]

Spot, either using the scope or flares

[solid hinge]

I just throw Dynamite into the objective which is probably why

[echo turtle]

Advice?

[solar vale]

I've been playing for a while but need to git gud

[echo turtle]

Have an eye out for tanks

[solid hinge]

^

[upper vault]

Are the assignments broken or...

[solid hinge]

On conquest and such

[upper vault]

I believe I got 3 victories for Rush...

Hm.

[echo turtle]

It's frustrating when there's a tank about and the assault dudes are running around like headless chickens

[solid hinge]

When you play as assault, make sure you always have full ammo

[upper vault]

^ I agree

[solar vale]

I've level 10 on mg34 and geweher

[icy sluice]

Here's another wisdom, survey the area before blindly running

[solar vale]

Never play as medic

[solid hinge]

@solar vale many people can have mixed opinions

[solar vale]

And recon I tried reading the flow of battle and then flanking ..that seemed to work well..

[solid hinge]

Medic is good for breakthrough, especially for defending

If a teammate bleeds out fully on breakthrough, you lose a man

[echo turtle]

Don't be the dude who stares at a knocked down guy and fucks off if you can revive them

[solar vale]

@solid hingeyea I know but what I meant was I never really had interest in medic

[solid hinge]

Give it a try

Its a gold mine for xp

[upper vault]

Medic,in my opinion, is one of the finest and best.

The most effective.

[solar vale]

Snipers..are top recons playing with or without scopes

[upper vault]

And the most loved class

[solid hinge]

I dont wanna hear people say they're a recon master until they get a headshot with an iron sight Kar from 50m

[solar vale]

But tell me one thing

What use is sniper without a scope

[solid hinge]

Excellent use

Its good for close range

[upper vault]

Maybe.

[solid hinge]

Quick reload

[solar vale]

But rof will be slow

[solid hinge]

High damage

[echo turtle]

Just use the P08 carbine

[solid hinge]

^

[upper vault]

Yes use the P08

[solid hinge]

But it's annoying as fuck to get your ass handed to you by the P08

So be careful

[echo turtle]

Saves you the headache of cycling the bolt and you can use it while swimming last time I checked

[solid hinge]

Many people get angry and pull it out to

[solar vale]

Sounds wierd..but what I do is...not rush ahead when the round starts but let the teammates go ahead and then read the direction of fire exchange and enemy flow.. Accordingly I take my position at slight distance before starting to snipe and spot

[solid hinge]

Oh yeah, I forgot. What's Battlefest's week 4 reward?

Just rush an objective with your team, like the whole team if we're talking about Breakthrough, and take cover once you get to it and shoot a flare

XP mine

[echo turtle]

Flieger is week 4

[solid hinge]

I got 2K on Aerodome breakthrough by doing it on the Dome

[echo turtle]

We get the trenchy boy next

[solid hinge]

@echo turtle no, the fliger is for 100M community kills, we get another gun i think

[echo turtle]

No

[solid hinge]

Im not home right now so i cant check

[echo turtle]

Just the flieger

[solid hinge]

Oh...oof

[echo turtle]

Better be good against planes maybe infantry too

[solid hinge]

It will be OP against infantry if you can hit them

[solar vale]

Hmmm ill try that rush and flare style plus no scope..let's see@german

[upper vault]

Did anyone have issues with completing the ToW

[solid hinge]

Planes, I think it's a insta on fighters if you hit the fuselage, but since bombers are armored, it might crit damage

[solar vale]

They should include a mode in which it's one shot kill..will be interesting to see real squad tactics in action then

[solid hinge]

I'll tell you what the should add

Air
Superiority

And if they don't, it would still be amazing for a map like panzerstorm but plane focused

A great Air Superiority map would be the battle of britian

[solar vale]

@solid hinge you're on pc?

[solid hinge]

No

Xbox

[solar vale]

I have nightmares controlling an aircraft with efficacy with controller.ps

[solid hinge]

Its easy to learn

[solar vale]

I see

How do you compare bf1 to 5?

[solid hinge]

Just go to the practice range and try it out

[solar vale]

Opinion

[solid hinge]

BF1 VS V?

[solar vale]

Yea

[solid hinge]

Well, lets see.

I stopped playing BF1 because of a bug that reset all my stats, i was level 58 then abruptly 0, but besides that the game was good, great story and multiplayer

BFV would have to be my all time favorite even though many things are wrong with it

For instance, we still have missing guns

[solar vale]

I dunno bout you but I personally feel the soundfx,music and atmosphere of bf1 is more immersive

[solid hinge]

CH. 4 promised the M2 Carbine and the Well Gun but we never got them

[solar vale]

Well gun?

[solid hinge]

Its the British alternative to the Grease gun i think

[solar vale]

Ok

I see

They should also remove restricted play area

[solid hinge]

Wdym?

[solar vale]

That greyed area on map

[solid hinge]

No

That's there for a reason

[solar vale]

Like what

[solid hinge]

Its to keep players outside of the map and spots they can get kills from

[solar vale]

They should do away with it

Will impart flexibility

[solid hinge]

Whatever you think pal

[echo turtle]

And have homies in bullshit spots?

[solid hinge]

^

[solar vale]

Will mitigate run n gun

And encourage slow paced tactical play

[solid hinge]

Just imagine someone sitting wayyyy out there sniping you and you cant do anything about it because they get you everytime you get close

[solar vale]

@solid hingeyou can move cover to cover..instead of sprinting across map

[solid hinge]

What about Arras or Panzerstorm

Did you forget about huge open fields

[echo turtle]

Didn't they want the game to be faster?

To go*

[solar vale]

It's all farce right now

[echo turtle]

Tactics that take more time would kill a good amount of the playerbase

Battlefield is a casual game

[solar vale]

The idea of platoons with voice com n all is successful only when you can hold the lines or make a coordinated assault..by that I mean coordinated defences and assault..and that's possible only when flexibility and vulnerability is there....instead of run n gun comedy

[echo turtle]

Play arma

[solar vale]

@echo turtleyes it would kill a good amount of current playerbase..but a new base shall come up

[echo turtle]

Seeing someone using a mic in game is like seeing a really bland unicorn

[solar vale]

@echo turtlei wish they had arma on PS

[echo turtle]

Too many binds

[solar vale]

Yea I know

[echo turtle]

Probably wouldn't click with most people who own one anyways

[solar vale]

Yea

[echo turtle]

But making bf a slower paced game is a bad idea with the situation that bfv is in currently

[solar vale]

The least they could do with bfv is put in inspiring music like bf1..in battle music..and atmosphere of battle...not crying as if it's a bad game or anything..it's a great game..but just saying

The atmosphere of devastation map is not even close to foggy and dust filled Atmos of bf1

[echo turtle]

Well WW1 was well more dreary

You can't really make a fun game out of people hiding in trenches worrying for their lives

Hell bf1 was a risky gamble

[solar vale]

@echo turtlei agree on that

[icy sluice]

Champagne-Ardennes

Atmosphere is almost the same as Devastation, there's just more trenches

[solid hinge]

I'm just surprised people didn't seem to care about the female soldiers in V after it launched

[icy sluice]

Trust me, people still care lol

[solar vale]

@solid hingei for one never cared

[icy sluice]

I've gotten more messages playing as a woman than I have as a male

[solar vale]

Failed to understand how does it bother so much

[icy sluice]

Which makes me laugh

[solid hinge]

I mean, it isn't entirely accurate, but russia did have female soldiers

Female snipers

WW1 and 2

[echo turtle]

Mostly comes from the fact that it's historically inaccurate

[whole knoll]

German women serving on the frontlines

[echo turtle]

And people thought that was going to be mostly accurate

[whole knoll]

BF games will never be historically accurate

[icy sluice]

As a Recon, I usually play as a German Woman

[solid hinge]

For Christ sake Queen Elizabeth served during WW2

Not on the lines but she still served

[solar vale]

On one hand we are already overly concerned about accuracy of historical stuff in game..but don't want the real tactics to be incorporated

Wow

[digital seal]

Honestly, BFV isn't the best representation of "historically accurate"

[solid hinge]

She was still enlistend

[icy sluice]

It was King George the VI

[whole knoll]

Not to advertise other games, but if you're looking for a historical accurate game, try Hell let loose. They just came out with Omaha and Utah beach

[icy sluice]

Queen Elizabeth II succeeded him in 1952

Doesn't mean they didn't still talk about her of course

[echo turtle]

Try Verdun if you want WW1 unless the servers are empty/dead

[digital seal]

It's meant to be more fun than truly tactical.. Arma is there for the hardcore realism guys

[solar vale]

Verdun yes

[whole knoll]

@echo turtle nobody plays it anymore sadly

[icy sluice]

Hardcore games don't really get that much drift

The more hardcore your game is the harder it is to get people to stay playing

[solar vale]

I just wish they could get unreal tournament back

[digital seal]

Arma has a huge core playerbase. I have lots of friends who spend 20+ hours on it per week.. I could never get into it, it's so involved

That number was arbitrary... I have no clue how much they play it but I see them online whenever I'm online doing various things

[solar vale]

Depends on taste

[echo turtle]

Think they should've skipped over WW2 personally

[solar vale]

Agreed

There was a modern era game

What was it called

Came recently

[echo turtle]

Ww3?

[solar vale]

By some polish developers

Ww3..yes maybe

How did it go?

[icy sluice]

Dead rn

[digital seal]

Think about it like this: They got WW2 out of the way so now they have to do something more modern now unless they go back to the Peloponnesian War or something like that 😄 (totally joking about that)

[solar vale]

Oh

[icy sluice]

It came out the gates with a bullet in it's achilles heel

[solar vale]

Sad.
Looked promising

[icy sluice]

About 300 people play it now

[digital seal]

It looked pretty good from launch but I stopped following it.. I'm really hoping BFV turns around in the coming months with the Pacific and "Private games"

[solar vale]

My apprehension is that they should not go futuristic altogether for next bf..wall climbing, nano suits n all that crap

[echo turtle]

If they delve into the future they just need to worry about not going too far

[solar vale]

And how's cod mw turning out to be

[icy sluice]

In my honest opinion, we should get a fictional war set in like 2005

[solar vale]

They can include Isis crisis

[icy sluice]

Or, you know what, just continue the war of what Battlefield was doing

[digital seal]

If CoD AW and IW were any indication of what not to do, I hope EA/DICE see that and choose not to go too futuristic.. Final Stand DLC for BF4 would add some cool things to the next BF

[solar vale]

With all the competition around, I am sure the next bf will be not bfr 2 yrs and something totally bang when it comes

[digital seal]

Wikipedia

[echo turtle]

The year is 2030 and people can clear 60 story buildings with one leap

Also laser weapons

[digital seal]

Most reliable webpage on the interwebs

[solar vale]

@echo turtlethats the plan for next bf??

[icy sluice]

It's the only page I can find that talks about the plot of Battlefield 2

[digital seal]

We had the Rorsch-MKI (or however it's spelled) in BF4

Oh wait that was BF2?

[icy sluice]

Even then it says the same exact thing as the fandom page

Although the wikipedia page expands on it, as there were a few maps featuring oil in the game

[digital seal]

Next thing we gotta do to vehicles is have them fill up on fuel or else they run out mid battle 😹

JK not serious at all

[icy sluice]

Still, it's just a fictional war

[solid hinge]

I remember the first game I ever played was BF2:MC

[digital seal]

I wish I could've begun at BF1942 but I was a lil 4 years old

[icy sluice]

I began at 1942, only games I haven't played were the original Bad Company, Play4Free and Heroes

I 'skipped' 3, 4 and Bad Company, as in, didn't give them more than 50 hours a piece

[digital seal]

You hardly played BF3 and BF4?

[solar vale]

1942..bf2 3 4 single player only

Now bf1 n 5

[icy sluice]

Didn't really like them, after trying them both I just went back to Battlefield 2 until Hardline came out... then I went back to 2 lol

[solid hinge]

Well goodnight everyone

[icy sluice]

[solar vale]

Hardline I played offline a little

@solid hingegoodnight

[digital seal]

major oof ... I have over 2,500 hours in BF3 and over 1,300 hours in BF4

[icy sluice]

Hardline I did enjoy more than 3 and 4 though, that I will admit.

There is nothing to tell me my playtime of Battlefield 2 lol

[solar vale]

How was hardline online

[icy sluice]

Nothing existed back then

[digital seal]

I loved Hardline. Solid game.

[icy sluice]

Hardline had mixed reception

[solar vale]

Ok

[icy sluice]

Fast TTK, movement was quick... it was nice to me

[digital seal]

As a game, it was super solid. The theme is what "turned people off" imo

[echo turtle]

It was EA's attempt at making a cod release type deal

[icy sluice]

Theme pushed me away but it still felt nice

[digital seal]

Because it was cops n robbers, people had a thing against it from the start

[echo turtle]

Where they would release a new game each year

[solar vale]

@digital seali agree

[echo turtle]

But that tripped and snapped it's neck

[icy sluice]

Main gripe was vehicle gameplay, no planes and no tanks...

[solar vale]

Personally I would confess I don't like cops n robbers thing either

[solid hinge]

Love or hate BFH, the campaign was great storywise

[digital seal]

It had helicopters though

[echo turtle]

Well it was visceral

[icy sluice]

Hardline felt like a more barebones and down to infantry experience and it nailed the infantry combat.

[echo turtle]

Dead space 1 and 2 has solid stories

[solar vale]

Would it be good to start playing BF3/4 at this point?

[echo turtle]

3 not so much, but they came out swinging with hardline

[icy sluice]

Hardline's playerbase ain't doing so good

[digital seal]

There's one server that's always full on PC playing 24/7 The Block

[echo turtle]

EA probably had a good reason to scrap visceral but that was in the pursuit of trying to compete with Activision Blizzard

[icy sluice]

Don't think Blizzard and Activision shook hands there yet

[echo turtle]

They're getting to it

[icy sluice]

No, wait it was 2013, Hardline came out in 2015

[echo turtle]

DS 3 took visceral out of the good boy light so when the idea of a battlefield game coming out annually why not throw your underperforming studio at it

[digital seal]

I think Visceral did well with BFH and Criterion did well with Firestorm...

Both just not supported the way they should've been

[echo turtle]

The lead designer or producer of the first dead space ended up working on cod WW2

[icy sluice]

Look how that turned out

[echo turtle]

There wasn't any tentacles

[icy sluice]

what

[echo turtle]

Cod WW2 didn't go well because there wasn't any tentacles

[digital seal]

Still not following

[icy sluice]

[echo turtle]

Dead space one had a tentacle that threw you onto your back

Forcing you to fire at a yellow bulb

Which was the lead designer's brain child

[toxic obsidian]

[echo turtle]

I'll get a visual aid and post in in #general

[toxic obsidian]

[untold wraith]

When the V1 rocket sound plays all game in Op. Underground.

Oof

[digital seal]

Haven't played Op Underground since last week, is that bug bad now? I've seen multiple people talk about it

[prime pine]

I got 6K kills with bren

[untold wraith]

Only in Rush.

[prime pine]

Dunno if I should be proud

[digital seal]

[untold wraith]

The bug is pretty bad because you can’t hear shit.

[prime pine]

The bug is a tiny bit annoying

[untold wraith]

Good afternoon, way.

[digital seal]

Is it like the plane sound glitch that happened a few months ago?

[prime pine]

Uhhh

[untold wraith]

Yes, precisely

[prime pine]

Its not like it kills you at least

[untold wraith]

Suppose not

But the rocket is really loud.

[solid hinge]

ok, I just joined at least 10 different servers and games, and I think there may be something legitimately wrong with my game

I have only been put on defense

never offense

only defense

for the past dozen or so games

even after I finish a match, it's only defense

[digital seal]

Luck of the draw... Maybe you're really good at defending?

[solid hinge]

no, because every single time my team has been smaller and ends up losing

not worse, smaller

and now that I join an attacking team, I join when we have 1 ticket left

[prime pine]

Team balance swaps you over but that's fucking weird

[solid hinge]

literally one ticket

the game is mocking me at this point

[prime pine]

Faction swap takes place on arras

Or offence defence switch

[solid hinge]

I got put on twisted steel defense three times in a row

every single time I lost

[digital seal]

EA just hates you. Sorry bud.

[solid hinge]

I know that's not it, it's just really frustrating

[tight rain]

Are you sure thats not it?

[digital seal]

😂

[lament stream]

I really wanna get this game, but I'm picky and don't like games I can't run on 144 fps

Probably will

[digital seal]

Send it. It's free this weekend and the rest of them throughout October so try it out to see if you can run at your desired rate

[undone steppe]

dice rsp pwease

[hybrid dock]

wtf

the scout elite is good???

[undone steppe]

i used it quite a bit i liked it

for bf4 right?

[hybrid dock]

i just got 3 head shots in a row

yes

[undone steppe]

nice yeah its really accurate if i remember correctly

[hybrid dock]

not looking forward to getting the mastery dog tag for the default sniper

[undone steppe]

i really liked the m40a5

[tawdry smelt]

Scout elite isn't even good in hardcore and that says a lot about a gun

[hybrid dock]

???

im using it in hc and im destroying

[tawdry smelt]

At distance you need 2 head shots

And doesn't always one hit in hardcore

[hybrid dock]

wut

im getting like 400m HS in hardcore

[green elm]

what do yall think of the breda ar?

its pretty fun

[tawdry smelt]

Only thing it has going for it is the fast reload it's like 200 I think

250 maybe

[undone steppe]

i like the breda just wish it had a bigger mag

[hexed grail]

Is the M1928A1 with rapid fire better or the M1928A1 with drum mag better

[green elm]

18? is pretty nice

[digital seal]

Soon ™

[green elm]

@hexed grail big mag is prolly better but faster fire rate is so fun

[high cave]

E

I'm back

[hexed grail]

Ok thanks

[solid hinge]

5hey fit different scenarios

[green elm]

like, fast fire rate turns people into wet noodles but its hard to manage

[solid hinge]

Fast fire tommy is good for hipfire and smaller player modes

Big mag tommy is good for more precision aiming and killing more people

[hybrid dock]

ill make ur noodle wet

owo

[green elm]

but big mag means more people to pew pew

rush devastation is so much fun

fucc

[undone steppe]

i was just on a team that showed no mercy lol 7 wins on rush in a row really quick too

[green elm]

what's al sundan like?

[undone steppe]

on rush?

[green elm]

yeah

[undone steppe]

i dont think it is rush

[green elm]

also, fast burst or fast rpm for breda?

oof its conq

i have never played al sundan

[undone steppe]

on conquest it feels like classic battlefield

[green elm]

hot

[hexed grail]

But with noobs

No offense

[echo turtle]

Fast rpm is bootleg auto

[undone steppe]

i went RRRR on breda

[green elm]

spam burst seems fun tho

[solid hinge]

Fast rpm makes breda much easier to use

[green elm]

it ez tho

[solid hinge]

it goes with horizontal rec reduction as well

[green elm]

so right right left right?

[solid hinge]

fast burst can chunk enemies but you have to actually hit the burst

You have to pick 2 and 3 on the same side

RRRR is the easiest

[undone steppe]

i think what hes saying is rrrl

oh

yeah i have mine RRRR too

[green elm]

oof i see

t

[solid hinge]

RLLX for super mid range kill times

[green elm]

y

[prime pine]

I rarely go medic

Weirdly

My pilot score has now over taken my recon and medic score...

[solid hinge]

Ideally the third spec on breda would be swapped

the faster bursts should be the more accurate ones

and the faster rpm should have lightened stock

[prime pine]

And the low delay should have more ads speed

Yeah that's what made me hate the breda at first

[solid hinge]

Agreed

Cant utilize the fast bursts as effectively because they're not as accurate as the faster rpm

which is.. dumb

[midnight nimbus]

right side Breda is much better than left

trigger job and light bolt should be switched

[prime pine]

The reduced delay works for those who want to be aggressive

The increased ADS movement speed would do so well

[undone steppe]

it would be sick to get a modern battlefield and have a regular middle eastern army and then a terrorist/rebel army that has crazy weapons and equipment like the rebels in syria

[tawdry smelt]

[undone steppe]

look up the hellcannon syria on youtube lol

[solid hinge]

tfw same opinion as kht on a gun

[green elm]

impossible

[solid hinge]

[green elm]

is pzb supposed to be a meme gun

[echo turtle]

It's just a reskinned boys

[green elm]

ew

okay so the rof is also abysmally low

ew

[undone steppe]

is it weird that i like it better than the boys

[solar vale]

Anybody here plays rdr2?

[stoic breach]

@solid hinge Halo 2 Battle Rifle instead of Breda for BFV

[short pecan]

holy shit half the server i'm on are chinese

it's getting worse

[shy badger]

I'm getting it for the pc @solar vale :DD

gonna enjoy la noire and vice city until then

[stoic breach]

Both are very good games

[little raptor]

lets shoot some nazis

[solid hinge]

hi

is bfv populated?

i am thinking of buying it

since its on sale

[stoic breach]

What region

[ember flicker]

I just killed a dude by hitting him with a grenade
not the explosion, just the impact from the grenade

didn't know that was possible

[solar vale]

@shy badgerla noire is solid solid

[stoic breach]

Must have been tagged heavy

They do like 2 impact damage

[solid hinge]

i am in SEA

[stoic breach]

South East Asia?

Huh

Probably more populated than here lol

[solid hinge]

lol

[stoic breach]

I'm in OCE, PC population is dying here

[ember flicker]

he had 1 health left

[shy badger]

@solar vale My first time ever playing it, but tbh I'm more excited about replaying vice city haha (hopefully it works better than san andreas on rockstars launcher since it barely works there for me 😦 )

[solid hinge]

i am thinking of buying bfv or rdr2 pc

i dont have space for both

hard choice

[shy badger]

Storage is pretty cheap nowadays

[solid hinge]

ik it is

[shy badger]

SSD prices have dropped and HDD are dirt cheap

[solid hinge]

but not worth it

i dont plan to get much more games

[shy badger]

Then I guess it depends on if you prefer singleplayer or multi

From what I've heard the multiplayer of RDR2 isn't the best

On the otherhand I can hardly call BFV's story an actual campaign

[stoic breach]

Wait until Halo MCC comes out

😩😩

You get both good campaign and multiplayer

[solar vale]

I am playing rdr2 on PS4

If you're thinking whether to buy or not....you must buy

I haven't even started online play yet but it's kindof popular

And offline mode is just too fantastic

[little raptor]

@solid hinge South Asia's... probably not too populated, you're better off finding Chinese servers

oh South EAST

Asian servers are pretty populated, but theres a lot of hackers

DICE takes a while to ban them since they take it case by case

[stoic breach]

Manual bans

Employees probably have to waste time trying to see if legitimately good players are hacking as well

[solid hinge]

yep

and the appeals

I played a few rounds on SE asian servers and japanese servers on friday, other than the massive ping it was ok, only saw one cheater

[little raptor]

im happy that BFV is slowly finding more players

its got a rock solid core that can stand on its own

i'll admit, its not a good look that DICE of Sweden has good games eventually :P

[tawdry smelt]

[timid stag]

Slowly finding more players

[short pecan]

gaaaah the assignment system is such a mess

trying to find one specific assignment is a huge pain in the ass

by what are they even sorted

[untold wraith]

Alphabetical

[short pecan]

no it isnt

[wild kayak]

BFV TTK is fucking ridiculous

Now, I'd be fine with assaults and medics being kings of close combat

but they are excellent at medium range too

like what the fuck

[gray saffron]

yeah, the assignments got fucked up. it was muc nicer when it was sorted by global assignments and gun assignments below it

[unkempt dust]

it still needs tabs

Global / TOW specific / proficiency and mastery

and filters

the list is annoying to scroll through on console

[gray saffron]

yeah filters would be nice

[unkempt dust]

even better? upgrade to the next assignment automatically

done proficiency 1? automatically equip prof 2

shouldn't be that hard tbh

[wild kayak]

Eh

Why didn't they start out the free weekends with Conquest

or only conquest

Who cares about Rush anyway

[prime pine]

The people who actually like rush

[stoic breach]

@wild kayak assault is built for medium range

[prime pine]

(mostly) anyways

[short pecan]

enough people care about rush

conquest is garbage in this game

[wild kayak]

Well Assault in BF4 and BF1 was close range

[prime pine]

STG 1-5, M1907SF and gewehr 1-5 are more closer range.

[wild kayak]

lol Rush is garbage in BFV

that OR BFV is garbage

[short pecan]

better than conquest

[wild kayak]

I bet you play as assault or medic

[prime pine]

Clearly you havent rolled up in a panzer iv on twisted steel rush

That shit is heat

[wild kayak]

No but I took down a few of them there

[prime pine]

try grabbing one and give it flares

Its totally not the reason why i have 4,650 kills with the panzer iv

[solid hinge]

hmmm good point, ima change the specs on my Pz4 later for the infantry farming version

be a tough act to follow after the tiger/s-mine combo tho

[prime pine]

The flares allow you to be more aggressive

Its armour for info

[solid hinge]

I bet its amazing for rush

the sturmtiger grenade launcher certainly is

hold down fire and hose them

[prime pine]

Shit man the sturmtiger

Just position yourself correctly and see bodies fly

[solid hinge]

and laugh at all the REEE camper tank in chat

[prime pine]

ITS NOT LIKE I CAN ADVANCE ANYWAYS

Two of my panzers got blown

So

I asked my friend to call in the sturmtiger and we were able to hold the last objective. I even destroyed the valentine that was pestering my team.

62-4 in a rush map. Think im pretty proud of myself.

[solid hinge]

yeah thats good

who takes a valentine in rush tho .. smh my head

[prime pine]

Churchill should be your main go

[solid hinge]

churchill absolutely rocks on twisted rush

[prime pine]

You need something to survive an onslought

[solid hinge]

just always run out of ammo because the ammo stations are placed so badly

[prime pine]

Yeah...

[solid hinge]

the other day a few of them were accusing a good pilot of camping in a stuka .. I was like .. how tf do you camp in a plane

[prime pine]

Guess its just the "vehicle camping" thing as a whole

[solid hinge]

and I got hackused by a bunch of newbies in a squad together "like dude how did you even see us, your turret was pointed away" I had to explain about the chase camera view and s mines

quadruple kill

[wild kayak]

People using vehicles are just campers inside an armored box where normal weapons cannot harm them and they have better weapons. And they can also move while still camping inside it. And that's a fact.

Vehicle crew = campers

Not that I have anything against campers, I think camping is a good and viable strategy

[solid hinge]

being a good tanker or pilot is a skill that takes years to develop and thats also a fact

[wild kayak]

Being a good camper too

[solid hinge]

true

im OG BF and to me camping is, or used to mean spawn killing in the uncap .. defense is defense

back in the days of no rules bf1942 servers

maps like market garden, camping the enemies airfield was legit

[balmy creek]

I love it when people call me a camper even though i'm on the defense side

What the fuck do you want me to do?

[wild panther]

rush them and annoy them

[balmy creek]

feed*

[wild panther]

haha

[stoic breach]

Epic

[wild kayak]

@balmy creek ikr

The same people usually care about K/D

Binch I can do 10 K/D by sitting in one spot in BF4

I don't care about K/D or rushing the objectives

I just like defending points from backcap

[stoic breach]

The community generally tries to justify being bad players by saying that K/D doesnt matter

[wild kayak]

I think that K/D doesn't matter

[prime pine]

Oh my god celestiens stop hacking!!!

[wild kayak]

Even though in BF4 mine has been growing constantly

doing stuff like 35-5

32-3

But I don't really care. As long as I'm not getting spawnkilled/baseraped, I could do even 5-8 and still have fun

and lose, even

How many times I've switched to a losing team just because I liked playing from one side of the map I cannot count lol

[stoic breach]

In BF1 sometimes I'd switch to the losing team so I could try and carry cause I thought it was funny

[balmy creek]

Hilarious, truly

[shy badger]

To be fair in bf KD really does not matter that much

It's a lot more about your playstyle rather than how good you're at aiming, ptfoing etc etc

Generally good players will have higher kds but many will have average too

[solid hinge]

@stoic breach were your tries successful?

[stoic breach]

Idfk

Cant remember

Lol

[wild kayak]

One could say that the even good-er players will have small K/D

Because they focus on capturing the points, reviving, resupplying

[shy badger]

In a sense yea

I count a medic or a support that constantly supply their team much better than players who run alone

[stoic breach]

Nah

[wild kayak]

You don't get bonus points for stopping a backcap that would be critical to the match

[solid hinge]

How about the recons who use flares to help everyone? They deserve love too

[shy badger]

They're the best

Not even kidding

[stoic breach]

Thats the most useful form of teamplay

[solid hinge]

They the real gs

[stoic breach]

Revives and ressuplies arent such a huge deal

[wild kayak]

Yeah I sometimes teamed up with my friend in BF1 and he spammed flares absolutely everywhere and I resupplied him

non stop flares

[stoic breach]

Press E for teamplay isnt good design

[shy badger]

It was an example

[stoic breach]

Or medpack/ammo pack spam

Revives arent super helpful either

[solid hinge]

one of my pet peeves about BFV is the scoring, in a tank I can do a lot to ensure a victory, kill 5-6 tanks in a round, hold a crucial flag and the points rewarded are miserly .. carry a round and get less score than a medic will get in 2 minutes reviving

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Its shit

[shy badger]

They're just trying to promote revives a lot more since many players still don't get the concept

[stoic breach]

A negative K/D medic can get rewarded for being a shit player more than an actual good player can

[solid hinge]

I don’t use tanks that much, dunno why

[stoic breach]

Tanks are designed for camping

In BFV

So thats basically the best way to use them

[solid hinge]

Kinda noticed that, they’re like snipers

Except that they can do damage to more than one people

[shy badger]

That's totally wrong

[prime pine]

My own stats are a combination of objective play

[shy badger]

About the tanks statement

[prime pine]

And general killing

[stoic breach]

Tanks have limited turret rotation speeds, and have fucked movement speed

Its better to stay at a distance and snipe people

[shy badger]

That's the easy way to get kills, not win the game

[prime pine]

A good K/D means something if you actually play the objective

[stoic breach]

Killing is winning the game

[shy badger]

You win the game by actually capturing objectives

No

[stoic breach]

Draining tickets

[shy badger]

Draining 50 or so tickets is nothing compared to capturing objectives

[prime pine]

AND YEAH. IM 200 KILLS OFF 100K

[stoic breach]

Wow lol

[prime pine]

I JUST HAPPEN TO MOVE SHORT OF THAT SHIT

[stoic breach]

In a tank, you harvest the enemy off a flag and let teammates cap it

[shy badger]

There aren't many flags where you have a clear vission from afar

[prime pine]

In a tank support your teammates and push in when things are clear

Fire flares

[shy badger]

You especially push in with your team when it isn't clear

Use each other as baits and weed out the enemy faster

[prime pine]

Its a death sentence for heavy tanks

Or anything without flare support

[stoic breach]

Tanks are made to clear objectives, not cap them

Especially with the way they're designed in BFV

More useful at range than up close

[prime pine]

You can cap them with teammates at least

They can keep infantry occupied

[stoic breach]

They arent self sufficient though

Slow speed and limited turret rotation speed

[prime pine]

Its why the panzer iv is so good for taking objectives

[shy badger]

That's why you aren't going alone

[stoic breach]

Thats the only good tank for it

[shy badger]

You have teammates to take care of the heat

The valentine?

[prime pine]

Nah. The valentine isnt too good. Only good for amrour

Armour

[shy badger]

The val is beastly

[stoic breach]

Valentine is more useful at range

Why risk taking damage up close

[prime pine]

Pfft

Hang on

[stoic breach]

When you can just be invincible at range

[shy badger]

Because you're capturing objective faster (and also killing enemies faster)

[prime pine]

The valentone beats the panzer iv 9 out of 11 times cause it out damages it

Which pisses me off

[shy badger]

Yea, it can even beat tigers lol

With the apcr round that is

[prime pine]

If you flank them. But a Flak 88 round doesnt for some reason do as much as a 6 pounder

[shy badger]

It also bounces a lot more than I would expect

I managed to bounce it off a transport half truck once

[stoic breach]

Why would you ever want to risk the tank

[prime pine]

Its why i feel no sympathy for bombing valentines

[stoic breach]

You shouldnt feel sympathy for bombing anything

Thats how you drain tickets

[prime pine]

Nah i can feel sorry for infantry on infantry but when it comes to fuck heads in their valentines i just want to bomb the ever living fuck out of them.

[shy badger]

Now I feel bad as someone who mainly uses valentine

lol

[acoustic light]

I use Staghound for Rockets

[stoic breach]

MK8 Val shouldnt even be the best tank in the game

But it is cause vehicle balance is fucked

[shy badger]

Yea I agree on the balance

Tigers should really get a buff

I would vouch for churchills too

[stoic breach]

No tanks should have limited turret rotation speeds

And the movement speed needs to be seriously increased

Right now the game has shitty tanks and shitty anti-tank for players to use

[acoustic light]

Well

I do agree with improving the turning

And nerfing the Valentine.

[shy badger]

Did you know that you can 2 shot a pz4 with a val?

😄

[stoic breach]

It would be much better for tanks to be more powerful and AT to be more powerful

[acoustic light]

Including upgraded Pz. IV?

[shy badger]

Yea

[acoustic light]

Damn

[shy badger]

Hit it in the back with an apcr

Say goodbye to it

[acoustic light]

The upgraded Pz. IV could beat T-34s and Shermans

That’s unrealistic

[stoic breach]

BFV vehicle balance

[balmy creek]

They added women as part of the main fighting force

Thats realistic

😎

[acoustic light]

Only Hannah is

[shy badger]

Vehicle balance isn't the worst part

[acoustic light]

Because French Resinstance fighters were female too

[shy badger]

Gun balance is worse

[balmy creek]

I know that

[acoustic light]

Also Ik you’re joking

[prime pine]

The PAK 40 fires slower which is a joke

The 6 pounder and the pak 40 should be intergrated to the tanks and be a 50:50 scenario

[acoustic light]

Y’all have like any suggestions for specializations for guns and vehicles and stuff

[stoic breach]

For what

[acoustic light]

StuG IV

[stoic breach]

Dont use Stug

It sucks

[acoustic light]

Damn

[shy badger]

for weapons use this site http://robenter.com/

[acoustic light]

Ok thank you

[prime pine]

L M R M

[balmy creek]

As an intellectual, i only use the Tiger I

[prime pine]

Or

L M L M

[acoustic light]

I use Pz. IV

[prime pine]

I use churchill

[acoustic light]

Yes ik about Valentine op and stuff but like

It’s quicker than Tiger

Zimmerit is useless

The explosives slide off right next to you

[prime pine]

Its saved my life a couplo times

[stoic breach]

Valentine isnt OP, its just the best tank

For Pz4 you need to take Zimmerit to get to the good options

Flares for Pz4 are spicy

[prime pine]

Armoured engine, skirts, quicker load and ap mine launcher

For the sturmgeschutz

[acoustic light]

Pz. IV I go: smoke launcher, skirts, L/34, and AP round

[prime pine]

L L L L

Its ok

[stoic breach]

LLLL doesnt have the flares

[prime pine]

And thats fine

Its balanced with speed and power. But doesnt stop it being outgunned by the valentine

[shy badger]

You really don't like the valentine do you raptor

[prime pine]

I really dont

[shy badger]

heheh

[prime pine]

On the occasions i do use it. Its when i steal it.

[stoic breach]

Thats what happens when the vehicle design team has no fucking idea what they're doing

[acoustic light]

Lmao

[shy badger]

Talking about stealing tanks, when will players learn it's better to die with a tank than lose it?

Last night I had a game where we stole 2 tanks (probably from the same guy)

[prime pine]

People'll never learn

[shy badger]

We steamrolled them

[acoustic light]

I set fire to the tanks with Incendiaries so they can’t get out

[shy badger]

Held all flags but one

[acoustic light]

Because I’m Medic but that means no at weapons

So like

Distract him with smoke rifle and set fire to the top

[stoic breach]

Tanks get stolen cause the drivers are dumb enough to actually drive towards enemies

[balmy creek]

Is the PIAT good? Still have to unlock it

[acoustic light]

It’s good

[balmy creek]

i know it sucked irl

[acoustic light]

I use it against infantry

[shy badger]

More like they're dumb enough to exit the tank next to an enemy

[acoustic light]

Panzerfaust cant kill infantry

Not on first shot

[balmy creek]

Only direct hits iirc

[shy badger]

I think so too, maybe very close hits aswell though

[acoustic light]

Blackout

You play on PC?

[shy badger]

yea

[prime pine]

My churchill got stolen right as i was repairing it

By the enemy

[acoustic light]

I played BF1 on PC and it sucked

[balmy creek]

I've had quadruple kills with the Panzerfaust so 🤷

[acoustic light]

Laggy as hell

That’s why I play Xbox

[prime pine]

So i respawned and gave them a mouthfull of HESH

They couldnt aim with it LOL

Cause i run the howitsers

[shy badger]

What are your specs walpole

[acoustic light]

I don’t know

But not very good

I’ve see the recommendations on Origin tho

[prime pine]

Your best bet is armoured engine, or whatever it is so engine has more health

Armoured skirts

[shy badger]

Yea generally bf1 runs really well on modern setups

[prime pine]

Quick reload and ap mine launcher

[shy badger]

But it's pretty much the same on consoles

Not like on bf3 ps3 or 360 with half the player count

[acoustic light]

Last night on rush they had a Sturmtiger

We were getting destroyed

One person charged it with an M3 and made it damage itself

[prime pine]

Oh god

[acoustic light]

It eventually got destroyed

[prime pine]

Thats the scariest part of it

Cause you really do cop it

[acoustic light]

We lost the round, we called in a Churchill Crocodile but too late

[prime pine]

Sturmtigers take the least from their shells

But they're still 2HKO'd

From the front... 380mm does 70 damage to another sturmtiger

[acoustic light]

Sturmtiger is slow tho

[prime pine]

It fucking destroys

[acoustic light]

Yeah

They have a mortar which is used for long range

It’s goddamn scary

[prime pine]

The grenade launcher?

[acoustic light]

The main gun

[prime pine]

Yeha thats 380 mm

The drop is immense

[acoustic light]

Literally we couldn’t use a field gun because it ovveran that spot

Luckily we have a lot of assaults

And they pummeled that thing

[prime pine]

A good sturmtiger crew can make a difference

[acoustic light]

True

[prime pine]

They can flare areas

And keep it controlled

[acoustic light]

I wonder if they’ll ever add Tiger II

Or Jagdtiger

[shy badger]

A jagdtiger would be so good

[prime pine]

Jagd tiger for normal play for sure

[shy badger]

Imagine the cheese

[prime pine]

Cause it was a medium heavy tank

No

[acoustic light]

King Tiger would be pretty good aswell

[prime pine]

I was thinking of the panther

Panther would be a great med heavy tank. It'll force the PiV to run flares cause it'll have that niche over it

Jagdtiger would be nuts

[acoustic light]

And it has sloped armor

[shy badger]

I think people will just use the panther over the pz4 tbh

[acoustic light]

Obviously

[prime pine]

Hopefully it wont be a shit piece of armour

[acoustic light]

If Soviet Faction comes out and T-34 is added

What would be cool is to upgrade it to a T-34-85

[shy badger]

Inb4 the valentine outdamages jagdtigers

And deflects their shells

[prime pine]

A dice never truly acknowledges it cause they're bad with balancing vehicles

[acoustic light]

What do you guys think will come after Pacific?

[topaz island]

Hey guys I need some real help here

I don't have my own credit or debit card, but my big brother does

[prime pine]

Maybe the russians. Maybe Americans on Germans

[topaz island]

If, he buys Battlefield 4 from Origin from another place and then from another place I login into his account, can I download the game from the library then?

[acoustic light]

I don’t know

[shy badger]

You mean from another computer?

[acoustic light]

Also the Russians have to be added

[shy badger]

Yea why not

[prime pine]

You should be able to

[acoustic light]

They were the ones that captured goddamn Berlin

[topaz island]

@shy badger Yes

[shy badger]

Not having the soviets is a sin we must not tolerate

[topaz island]

Blackout is it possible though?

[shy badger]

Yea I said it is

[acoustic light]

I’m my opinion we should have: Moscow, Kursk, Stalingrad, Leningrad, Budapest, Berlin

T-34 tank for Soviets

Yak-9 for plane

[gray glade]

but there never was fighting in moscow

[balmy creek]

Oh boy, Aerodome and my entire squad is full of recon

Didn't see that one coming

[acoustic light]

Well

17km away from Moscow

Germans could see the Kremlin

But we need Stalingrad and Kursk

Stalingrad is the bloodiest battle in human history

[balmy creek]

???

[acoustic light]

I’m talking about if a Soviet Faction gets added

[tacit kelp]

@acoustic light or charkov

[balmy creek]

No, my message just got deleted because it included the name of Germanies' president during WW2

[acoustic light]

Oh ok

[shy badger]

my grandma was in moscow during the war

[acoustic light]

Also which battle in particular

[shy badger]

Things were really rough

[acoustic light]

First, Second, Third, or Fourth?

Also I’m ethnic Russian, I’ve been to Moscow

[balmy creek]

Good thing Germany didn't prioritize Moscow

[brisk field]

gets suppressor for m40 in battlepacks
unlocks suppressor right after i get a kill
oh yea, and i get killed from sniper limit

[acoustic light]

If Germany captured Moscow they’d be overstretches

Overstretched*

[balmy creek]

It wouldn't matter too much

German Generals were taking France's overtaking as an example

Take the Capital and bam! You win that country and the entire Eastern front

[brisk field]

oh fuckin nice i got kicked by admin

[shy badger]

RSP in a nutshell

[brisk field]

can i just get a 6x for my cs5 already

[acoustic light]

The French government actually moved to Bordeaux, it’s just they had no soldiers left

If France kept fighting they’d never install Vichy

[brisk field]

goddamnit dice just add the 3 other expansions in the premium edition if youre just gonna make it free anyway

[strange sundial]

yall know

wud b nice...

some FUCKING DEFENCE POINTS give some fucking alure to defending your points!!! i bouild all this shit to help you defend but they just go and blow it ud cuse u dident think about using the stuff i spend half the game makin

[grand haven]

That profile pic though lol.

[stoic breach]

In conquest or breakthrough

[strange sundial]

conquest...

i just spent half the game building all defencive structures and guess what

no one was there to defend they cap those and shit we cant get them back cuz they actualy defend and use my shit

[magic laurel]

tha's quality shit experience moment right there

[strange sundial]

mhmmm

[magic laurel]

feelsbadman

[strange sundial]

but mayyybee if we got some defence points for staying back and making shure the forts tied down

like say a steady stream of a small about of exp

[stoic breach]

In conquest

[main grove]

I like that the common medic tactic is to throw smoke on someone you’re about to rez

[strange sundial]

that would be great

[main grove]

Even though smoke in this game is actually White Phosphorus

[strange sundial]

WHEEZE

[stoic breach]

"Just throw smoke"

Thats the fix for everything in this game apparently

Smoke can magically justify bad revive mechanics AND bad map design

Who would've thought