Yeah 55 dmg sniper is balanced
#battlefield-legacy-titles
warped ferry
dense bone
ohk snipers at all range is a part of that as well
solid hinge
It's not 55 damage any more
dense bone
cant just blame ohk general shooters to not be a factor and blame it on map design
warped ferry
60 then or so but far from good
wild kayak
Suomi is def overpowered
warped ferry
Nah
wild kayak
dude was running around for good 2 seconds while I was shooting at him with Bren from like 4 metres
he just turned towards me, spray n pray and two frames later I am dead
warped ferry
The gun physic is just a joke for me
wild kayak
eh
echo turtle
Did it have the light bolt upgrade?
warped ferry
Yeah broken lmgs
solid hinge
Suomi rules up close but starts to suffer at fairly close ranges
midnight nimbus
there are plenty of games that have effective OHK shit without devolving into camping
dense bone
bet none of those games are 64 player matches in a heavily detailed game where you can easily hide and had a community rage about visibilty for months
wild kayak
Except csgo is overhyped trash
warped ferry
Csgo is still quite good
solid hinge
isnt like half the point of csgo to watch corners
dense bone
csgo is about holding angles too
gray saffron
cs:go are tiny arenas with one life only. awpers often just set up camp on the corners.
dense bone
so "camping" is still pretty strong
solid hinge
get your team to defence zones, squat and wait for someone to turn the corner
wild kayak
Most of clips I've seen from csgo was camping
dense bone
especially since awpers accuracy are fuuuuuucked with any movement
midnight nimbus
Battalion sniping >>>>>>
wild kayak
Is it even possible to change teams in BFV?
hybrid dock
no
dense bone
leave server and come back and hope you get the other team xD
warped ferry
This is also one of the things that already make me mad cause you are forced to play on a side even if you don't want to
dense bone
its a casual game
solid hinge
no team swap is a bad thing imo
the balancer is shit
so its necessary
10 vs 30 matches arent fun for anyone
dense bone
people are gonna abuse teamswap more than it will to keep balance
i doubt many, if any, of the 30 people will be willing to swap if they are winning
dense bone
putting too much faith in people
solid hinge
or both
gray saffron
if they don't swap, then auto balancer will kick in ;D
solid hinge
I've seen people leave winning matches because there arent enough enemies to kill
They get bored
midnight nimbus
yeah limiting swap to the losing/smaller team only was fine
gray saffron
team balancing definitely need some work.
midnight nimbus
most people still won't do it
solid hinge
Happens all the time in squad conwuest
dense bone
there should just be good balancing
solid hinge
Average squad conquest match is a pain
dense bone
letting players actively swap without restrictions is just asking for trouble
solid hinge
Spawn, go to enemy spawn, kill them, take their point, spawn camp
midnight nimbus
that's why we said swapping from the better to the worse team only...
solid hinge
done within the first minute
dense bone
and thats why i said people wont even do that
so just have good balancing and dont worry about swapping
midnight nimbus
most people won't
solid hinge
Half the enemies leave after a couple minutes
dense bone
exactly what i said...
midnight nimbus
but the few that do help
solid hinge
half your team leaves after a couple more minutes
midnight nimbus
and it has no downside
midnight nimbus
well hard to measure when the skill stat is meaningless
solid hinge
then you have 5 vs 3 going 150 to 24
echo turtle
Just put the 10 dudes with the 30 others
midnight nimbus
problem is SPM is too heavily weighted
echo turtle
Fixes the whole problem
warped ferry
In bf4/1 you just paused and switched and it was done
dense bone
but being within 5 players for each side should be a standard
midnight nimbus
that was the issue in the first place
dense bone
do you have the weight formula?
midnight nimbus
I do for BF4/1
dense bone
because having spm being the most important makes sense
midnight nimbus
not off the top of my head
echo turtle
Do they incorporate KDR?
warped ferry
It could also be based on the skill value from the battlelog like sides
midnight nimbus
but SPM is a stat thats heavily influenced by snowballing
wild kayak
Half of assault players are using Stg 44 lol
dense bone
well youre not gonna snowball if you suck in the first place
midnight nimbus
being high SPM 1 K/D Timmy won't turn the game around for your team
echo turtle
Guess what else unlocks at rank 13
warped ferry
But a 100/1 cheater will
echo turtle
The m30
dense bone
with 64 other players, 1 player isnt gonna turn around anything no matter their stats
midnight nimbus
you need people that can actually frag enemies off the flag
warped ferry
1 player turns it around often enough due to hacks EA doesn't give a shit about
dense bone
outside of cheesing, youre not getting a high spm without being able to kill
solid hinge
even if you have a good balancer people leave mid game
midnight nimbus
kills aren't weighted well enough
solid hinge
i want team swap dang it
dense bone
i think you personally just weight kills too much
echo turtle
They should have newer players with some older players
dense bone
its a casual game, they should have full matches
echo turtle
Half and half for both
warped ferry
@solid hinge forget it Dice is way to busy pulling the last buck out of cosmetics and skins instead of problem fixing
midnight nimbus
it's very easy to get hacker SPM without doing anything helpful
dense bone
hence why i said without cheesing
midnight nimbus
having hacker KPM makes the game unplayable for the enemy
solid hinge
"Ah! Now that I've been downed, I. Can ping the enemy!"
Procedes to ping the floor or a doorframe infront of them for five minutes before their neck snaps forward for some reason
warped ferry
Yeah
warped ferry
The ping system is indeed utterly useless
echo turtle
Eh
dense bone
pings are usefull with comms
solid hinge
It's useful!
Just not bright enough, meaning nobody sees it, and dies anyways
dense bone
ehh, usefull without comms too
echo turtle
If there's a medic rushing you and there's an enemy infront of you, there's that chance of actually warning them
warped ferry
A weakened version of bf4 spotting would be good but it's not gonna come
dense bone
people just think we need apex level of pings for it to be useful
solid hinge
Like with medic revive signs. People who REALLY want up should have their sign be flashing so medics get them up, and people who don't want to get up should have theirs be faint or non-existent.
midnight nimbus
BF1 spotting was the weakened version of BF4 spotting and it was fine
echo turtle
Brighter pings and having it call out classes would be a nice idea
dense bone
pinging someone and being able to shoot them through smoke because you pinged them is wack
warped ferry
Cause even plane spotting is not working at all
echo turtle
Danger isn't enough because there's a difference between a goddamned tank and a sniper
warped ferry
Your crosshair is on a plane you press the spot button and then happens exactly nothing
dense bone
hot take: even if you had apex levels of ping, it wouldnt go used by 90% of people in a casual 32v32 game
gray glade
i've legit seen a tad more spotting the past 2 weeks or so
echo turtle
Maybe symbols
warped ferry
Forget it
midnight nimbus
BF4 spotting still went unused by most people
echo turtle
Might be due to underground and the lack of being able to spam flares properly
warped ferry
Before this game gets good EA doesn't give a shit about it anymore
midnight nimbus
people insist that it was this super pervasive thing
but when you go look at forums and shit, everyone's pleading PLEASE BLUEBERRIES PLEASE PRESS Q
dense bone
the problem was being able to spam to find people, and keep track of them
warped ferry
I mean what was wrong about bf1 spotting it simply worked and No1 just shouted "danger over there" while pointing on a tree
midnight nimbus
if you're within LoS to spot, maybe you aren't hiding very well
though BF1 ultimately did it better just by heavily reducing the acceptance angle
dense bone
if youre in LOS you shouldnt be spotted because someone spammed a button in your direction
echo turtle
How they even did that in a game set in WW1 is beyond me
midnight nimbus
well spotting shouldn't be manual ultimately
echo turtle
Makes sense in BF4 with the soldiers having comms
midnight nimbus
remove the button pressing and now people can't spam
dense bone
interested to see how you promote an automatic spotting system
warped ferry
Bf4 and 1 did it great, 5 is total garbage
echo turtle
WW1? Where the fuck are the radios?
dense bone
which are?
echo turtle
How are they even passing on information
midnight nimbus
Metal Gear, BF4 (MAV), MW (recon drone), plenty of stealth games
AI in shooters effectively use it
you make it time based
you can't glance over someone and spot them
you have to very intently be pointing at their position and wait for a few seconds
boom spotted
dense bone
so gadgets, small maps, or stealthy games
midnight nimbus
can't spam it and you can't really spot people you aren't looking at
dense bone
and while you look at someone that long, why not just shoot them
midnight nimbus
when you strip manual input from the player, you can deny them more abilities than they deserve
well sometimes you're out of range, like it you're playing medic SMG and you see an MMG 100m away
dense bone
sounds like the problem of shooting to spot/suppress something instead of just killing them
modest gale
So the spotting flare is better then the spotting scope?
warped ferry
Ghost recon wildlans also does it good
dense bone
@modest gale easily
midnight nimbus
or you don't have the tools to do anything about it, like if you're aforementioned medic and you see a tank or plane
modest gale
When ever im playing scout and i use a spotting flare and see a tank
im like
op ok then im gonna go over there
echo turtle
The older assassin's Creed games did it well even though you didn't spot people
warped ferry
Planes can't even be spotted
midnight nimbus
or maybe you can shoot them, but doing so would blow your cover
or if it's too unrealistic of a task for you to go guns blazing
modest gale
im pretty sure you can spot a plane
echo turtle
I've hit planes with snipers and had the shot spot them
warped ferry
It did not work out for me like 20 attempts in a row as sniper
echo turtle
Are you using the pathfinder sub class?
midnight nimbus
the point is, "if you can see them, why don't you shoot them?" isn't an argument
modest gale
iv seen people like shot the pilot out of the plane
warped ferry
Crosshair perfect on the plane and no spotting made
modest gale
i never understood the scope
solid hinge
@modest gale scope is only really useful if you're dedicated sniping at a perpendicular point to the main conflict
echo turtle
Might've removed the ability to spot planes by tapping people with a bullet
warped ferry
A subclass should not matter when spotting FFS every soldier can do this normally
modest gale
do i have to like press something or just hold it in a place
solid hinge
flares just work much easier
echo turtle
The sniper class spots people if you hit them
solid hinge
You just hold it in place
echo turtle
The path finder allows you to spawn on friendly beacons
solid hinge
Automatically tags
echo turtle
Takes some leading
dense bone
so youre wanting a convoluted tagging system for the odd scenarios you cant kill someone in the hopes that someone else makes use of that information, when you exampled bf4 having the easiest way of tagging and yet people still didnt use the info
modest gale
is there really any tactical situation where a scope could be better than a flare
echo turtle
But if the shot connects you're golden
modest gale
well other than underground metro map now
midnight nimbus
odd scenario?
warped ferry
When I read all of this I realize a bf3/4 remaster with known mechanics would be waaaaaay easier and better than polishing bf5
midnight nimbus
these are commonplace scenarios in every BF round
modest gale
if your going to be that far away have fun gauging distance and bullet drops
dense bone
if you play bad
echo turtle
Remasters are always hit or miss
dense bone
sure as a medic that should be short range go into areas you cant kill in hopes of staring at someone to spot them
warped ferry
It could be a good one of EA would actually make the game and not focus on money like usual
midnight nimbus
you spawn anything but assault and run into a vehicle
solid hinge
If you're like 75 metres away it's barely worth even shooting at people with most guns
echo turtle
They need to make money
modest gale
now hold on
dense bone
again, there was a way more lenient system before and no one used it
modest gale
if your good enough with a assult semi auto you could it
midnight nimbus
because an extra button press is too much for most people
modest gale
well the scopes are like the size of the gun anyway so
echo turtle
Takes money to make a game
warped ferry
If the button would work tho
midnight nimbus
so the solution is to automate it
solid hinge
Semis and the ZH and selb could do it
dense bone
so i say again, you want a more convoluted system in place so it doesnt go into use still
solid hinge
not much else
echo turtle
And they need to make it back Inorder for it to be successful
midnight nimbus
how is pointing at someone convoluted?
dense bone
convoluted to the devs
warped ferry
EA is one of the greediest company's in the biz they don't need that much money
modest gale
flares are basicly redundent in the middle half of the new metro map tho
echo turtle
If you get angle you can get some spotting in
midnight nimbus
it's clearly not convoluted to the devs bc BFV has this system sitting in the files
warped ferry
The make 600 millions per year just with FIFA ultimate team bs let that sink in @echo turtle
dense bone
just because its there doesnt mean it wasnt a hassle for it to get there
modest gale
after buying like the first elite character i swore never to give money to EA
echo turtle
BF4 had battlepacks
warped ferry
For how much money
modest gale
i dont see anything worth actully buying Battle coins or whatever they are called
echo turtle
So did BF1
warped ferry
Not much compared to the current state
midnight nimbus
because ping wasn't intended as a spotting replacement
modest gale
yea BF1 had a system where if you worked hard enough you could just EARN a battlepack
echo turtle
BFV doesn't but asks you to buy premium currency as an option to get some skins
warped ferry
Bf4/1 did not have a premium currency nor cosmetic floods
echo turtle
Bfv doesn't have the lootbox aspect
modest gale
lootboxes are hell in their own way tho
solid hinge
Suppose it’s another way to make money for dice to put into battlefield (hopefully)
echo turtle
Of course they do
modest gale
like in BF1 i have opened so many that whenever i open a lootbox anymore i just get a duplicate
midnight nimbus
also passive spotting worked fine for 5v5 and the MAV
echo turtle
But having premium currency instead of the randomness is cleaner and safer
echo turtle
Skins don't count?
warped ferry
Premium currency = extra money for EA
echo turtle
Knives?
icy sluice
I don't care what your weapon looks like, I see what you're wearing first
modest gale
tbh ya
icy sluice
I would like if everything in the armory was available at once instead of timed
echo turtle
^
warped ferry
Cause I don't even remotely care about the cosmetics
echo turtle
Make getting skins easier
icy sluice
Main complaint atm
modest gale
tbh most of the cosmetics in BFV now are litirly just reskins
warped ferry
Make me proper guns and mechanics over skins and tags and whatever else
icy sluice
I like giving my enemies something to fear
modest gale
like the Wander set for the axis is litirly the same outfit as annother one
echo turtle
But I like my cool emblems 😢
modest gale
just a diffrent color
solid hinge
timed makes them more likely to sell
warped ferry
EA is just focused on money money money money money money money money and more money they can never get enough
icy sluice
Fear the black woman wearing an ammo belt, fucker
solid hinge
people go "oh boy only 3 hours left on this skin I don't want I better get it"
modest gale
make sure what your going to buy isnt just a reskin of another item you already have
icy sluice
Who isn't? @warped ferry
echo turtle
A business needs money to continue going
modest gale
but how much money?
echo turtle
It could be their investors that want more money
modest gale
and where can you fit in player enjoyment
icy sluice
By the way battlefield has like the least microtransactions of most pvp games
warped ferry
@icy sluice sadly no big devoper nowadays is not greedy af anymore
I somehow miss the old days.....
icy sluice
Activision greatly takes the lead here.
modest gale
well thats cause the only thing they can microtransct is skins or prenium currency now
echo turtle
Imo, the game with the worst microtransactions is gears 5
icy sluice
With how much shit is behind paywalls
warped ferry
You bought the game and maybe the dlcs and you were done
echo turtle
They treat the players like they picked up a free to play game
warped ferry
Not like with battlefront 2 or some bs like this
modest gale
op you want this stuff well maybe if you gave us just a bit of money
icy sluice
Look at how much shit is behind paywalls with cod bo4 btw
opaque pawn
At least prices aren’t as bad as apex or fortnite lol
modest gale
but i already payed 50 dollers for this game
warped ferry
This is why I don't buy the big new games anymore cause everything needs to be bought
echo turtle
Look at the gears 5 in game store and how much content you get off the bat
BFV is a saint compared to that
warped ferry
Bf5 is bad in other ways
modest gale
If the only way to get a ingame currency is to buy it are you really using a ingame currency?
warped ferry
It's from like 4 years ago lol
icy sluice
It's considered a premium currency
echo turtle
Dice knows that at least 60/70% of their playerbase paid the full amount to play
opaque pawn
lol
fleet bloom
warped ferry
Yeah
opaque pawn
Yeah
solid hinge
tfw premium currency is everywhere now
warped ferry
You got this right 100%
icy sluice
There are so many 
outfits I see
solid hinge
warped ferry
It's a fucking joke you pay to get a game that lets you pay another time for the content
icy sluice
@solid hinge tfw even Far Cry and Ghost Recon have premium currencies
icy sluice
WHAT'S THE POINT OF PUTTING "TIME SAVERS" IN AN MMO?!
warped ferry
The only "new game" I know that isn't doing such bs is Forza horizon 4
solid hinge
whales baby
icy sluice
Might as well pay to not play the fucking game
warped ferry
I bought it with the premium for like 90 bucks or so and no more playble content than that
solid hinge
I know a dude who's spent like 2k on war thunder
icy sluice
Because what am I doing with my time playing games anyways?
warped ferry
Pay2win
echo turtle
the fact that we're not paying a dime other than the entrance fee to play the game and get free dlc, that option of paying dice a few bucks to get an outfit is fine
fiery pier
solid hinge
Ways to save BFV:
Add a mode that allows players to customise what fortifications go where and where the points are and on which map.
Imagine people making towers with stationary weaponry or cannons to defend their flag?
That'd be cool.
echo turtle
It's the fact of going "I like this game so I'm going to slide a few bucks towards the devs"
solid hinge
Also, I agree with ultimate.
echo turtle
Apex and fortnite in this case are fine
warped ferry
In a limited way ok maybe by buying premium or so
solid hinge
it's that people feel the need to slide money in the first place
most of this shit is horrendously overpriced
warped ferry
But when you bought premium it should be good
echo turtle
Because instead of paying 60 dollars you get a "full" game and enough content to enjoy for a while
warped ferry
Like it used to be
echo turtle
The option of paying for some currency is compensation for the dev team
warped ferry
Back in the days you bought a game and you played the game and it was good like that
solid hinge
i have issues with the amount of kids that play fortnite and how easy it is to get carried away trying to buy everything but that's a different conversation
icy sluice
@warped ferry you're forgetting expansion packs
echo turtle
Premium currency for BFV is just giving the devs a bonus
warped ferry
Ok maybe the expansions I forgot them but aside of this what else did you buy back then
echo turtle
Game worked on launch
echo turtle
20 bucks per 100 lines of code
solid hinge
which really, really doesnt need any more money
warped ferry
Normally a game should be working and more or less bugfree for the core gameplay
At launch
icy sluice
I wish Hell Let Loose was a fun game 
echo turtle
The game should work as intended on launch
timid stag
The game should have better UI
echo turtle
Not be a broken buggy mess that you throw to the side and go "I just wasted 60 dollars"
warped ferry
I just payed 10 for this and it's not even worth 10 bucks so.....
icy sluice
To each their own
icy sluice
Almost a year
echo turtle
It's like nothing happened
warped ferry
Live service =2x the payment of a usual game purchase
timid stag
Just cause a previous game took year to fix doesn't mean we should be okay the current one fell into the same problem
echo turtle
Live service is drip fed dlc
warped ferry
I already reached a point where most of my mates and me just play the old games and small studio games who are way more fun
echo turtle
Well their version of it
solid hinge
it doesnt seem to be live service so much as early access tbh
warped ferry
Small studios need longer but make waaaaaay better games
icy sluice
By the way less people were praising bf4 when it was broken af but that's obvious
echo turtle
Indie devs need the game to work properly on launch
icy sluice
Minecraft
warped ferry
When I talked to Devs from EA at GamesCom they don't even seemed to be interested in fixing bf5
echo turtle
Then why don't they hand it off to Dice LA?
icy sluice
DICE LA is helping
warped ferry
Same crap but made in USA than rather than made in Stockholm Sweden
echo turtle
The game will turn out fine in the end
warped ferry
I just hope that EA does something that might ruin them
echo turtle
Or it'll fade into the background as a black sheep
solid hinge
they're doing decent stuff with swbf2 recently
warped ferry
It would be better if it fades like hardline
solid hinge
only took almost two years
wild kayak
Ah yes I enjoy piercing women bodies with bullets
icy sluice
I see this game turning around in the end
echo turtle
No more battlefield if EA goes
wild kayak
Thanks Dice
solid hinge
give bfv another 15 months and it will be fine
icy sluice
@wild kayak I just enjoy murdering people
wild kayak
lol
icy sluice
Fuck Gender, you're dying
solid hinge
i enjoy bayonetting people as a lady
wild kayak
I don't like shooting women
solid hinge
They have good war noises
wild kayak
It feels wrong
warped ferry
Bf5 is so dull with this
icy sluice
Oh fuck, you reminded me I have a clip @solid hinge
echo turtle
So throw that thought of remastering old games out of the window
timid stag
What
warped ferry
Just shooting knifing and exploding ppl nothing more
icy sluice
Battlefield V has the loudest soldier noises... aside from the Howie scream in BF1
@warped ferry Congratulations, that's every FPS game
warped ferry
Yeah somehow
echo turtle
Blame doom for the formula
icy sluice
Except for like... Shootmania
timid stag
Says this as they have a dead franchise as profile pic
warped ferry
But some have good elements in there like hitman or so
icy sluice
Oh hshit, dayum
echo turtle
Halo isn't dead just yet
icy sluice
I hope Infinite is at least decent
timid stag
Maybe not dead
warped ferry
Like I said earlier this pic is like 4 years or so old
echo turtle
7
timid stag
But 4 and 5 were forgettable
icy sluice
Halo 4 came out in 2012
timid stag
Especially 5
warped ferry
I like playing it here and then it's still good
echo turtle
Infinite is bringing back the old design so I'm cool
Just the fact that they're not putting it on the one
icy sluice
I got Halo 4 for $5 like... 5 months after it came out... in that bin that's right in front of the door at GameStop
That makes me sad tbh
echo turtle
I got halo 4 as a Christmas gift 
warped ferry
The sentence legends never die is sometimes right but the Devs nowadays abuse it to much
icy sluice
cough SOUL CALIBUR cough
warped ferry
Alright guys I'll leave you it's already 1:18 am at my place take care
echo turtle
Goodnight
icy sluice
Night, Good.
wild kayak
I just wish BFV had more maps like Arras
icy sluice
Arras is nice
wild kayak
where Support isn't forced into close combat where he's weakest
Well until I unlock MG42 :D
icy sluice
MG42 can be pretty close quarters
echo turtle
M1922 sexiest French weapon on the field
solid hinge
Support ain't terrible up close
solid hinge
They have fg42 and shotguns
solid hinge
If you have an mmg then any of them bar the mg34 clear house up close
and if in doubt bust the revolver out
icy sluice
I am liking the Ruby more now
solid hinge
@wild kayak 
Ice cream is a fucking joke
Ruby finally got the buff it deserved
It’s way too cold
Breda is also neat
wild kayak
Underground is also a fucking joke
icy sluice
Underground, you need to learn it to be more... fun.
solid hinge
^
icy sluice
Same thing with Fjell tbh
solid hinge
And you also need to be fast
icy sluice
Very fast af
solid hinge
Yeah
solid hinge
RUN RAPTOR RUN
wild kayak
Arras 24/7 when
thin nacelle
Norvik is no fun to me. Every other map is good but that one i quit out now
icy sluice
*Narvik
solid hinge
Damn im getting kinda hyped for the pacific trailer
sturdy osprey
🤣I'm hyped too I wanna see what the Japanese are doing
thin nacelle
Assault been super good since 3
icy sluice
wary mason
that clip @icy sluice
tribal cairn
I mean, Assault is the poster-child of battlefield
echo turtle
Pistol man is the face of battlefield
shrewd scaffold
any idea when the next BF will be released? there's been no news or trailers etc.
icy sluice
Person holding pistol
icy sluice
2020 or afterwards
upper vault
And that’s a good thing for BFV, it shows that BFV support will be long.
echo turtle
It would be odd to drop it during the first year of bfv
icy sluice
Would also have to rush the fucking next game to get sales
upper vault
Yeah.
sturdy osprey
Yes BF6 coming to stores near you BLACKFRIDAY🤣
upper vault
It’s a win win scenario if BFV support continues for two years or more, rather than end next year.
solid hinge
I imagine it'll be 2021 earliest
thin nacelle
Battlefront 2 is still getting free support and will be for some time, probably for good will because the loot box thing, and that's a year older than bf5. As a consumer I'd prefer this longer support with free content and just pay for cosmetics if you really want ths
icy sluice
With it being a Journey through World War II...
echo turtle
It'll take another year or two
sturdy osprey
I hope they never do it like that again I was thinking I was gonna have fun until I saw the coming soon part
night glade
anyone know how to get the desert rat cosmetics
solid hinge
money
icy sluice
Looks nice still (just the headgear here)
torn delta
MG42 or M1922, discuss.
icy sluice
Darne takes an eon to reload
solid hinge
Darne empty reload is super fast
Fast fire m1922 is also only slightly slower than the mg42 and feels easier to control
echo turtle
The m1922 is now your wife
prime pine
No waifu no laifu
coral fiber
No
solid hinge
God fucken
echo glen
Fliegerfaust ain't coming till a 2-3 weeks from now?
echo glen
Ah, alright.
crystal dune
icy sluice
Well, it is Battlefest
echo turtle
So about that morphine
coral fiber
solid hinge
I JUST READ HOW WE GET THE ROCKET LAUNCHER
WE AS A COMMUNITY MUST GET 100,000,000 KILLS OR ASSISTS
echo turtle
Don't worry, it's going to take 20 minutes
solid hinge
HOW
untold wraith
Yeah, easy
undone steppe
with rsp on a 24/7 underground server easy
prime pine
With out a tank, sector two of twisted steel is near impossible
coral fiber
Lol
normal marsh
sturdy osprey
I thought you said sweets for a second lol
sturdy osprey
Better
cyan mango
hybrid dock
@solid hinge thats where the hackers come in
echo turtle
^
coral fiber
When the hackers do something good for once
icy sluice
@cyan mango Should repair the tank
odd bear
Do you guys have any funny things happening in the game?
icy sluice
I have a funny clip that I won't show atm
odd bear
Well...
Did anybody be able to kind of dance with the enemy?
I tried once with the enemy when the round didn't start and they just kept killing
icy sluice
If I am reloading from an empty magazine and it's taking a bit and I have no way to kill... I try
analog mist
Is it bad I hate like 50% of the rush maps.
analog mist
I actually liked rush up until BF4 happened.
prime pine
Level 145!
analog mist
But like a lot of the maps we got this time around don't make a lick of sense from a defenders standpoint.
prime pine
Rush is rarely fun for me
analog mist
@prime pine have a snack and take a nap or something.
odd bear
I want to ask this
prime pine
Its 1:20pm here and i have to move out today. Just did my last game for possibly a month.
odd bear
What the heck is a rush?
rotund beacon
I find it boring on the attacking side because I feel like it’s impossible to make any progress
prime pine
"Moving with urgent haste"
prime pine
Oh wait you meant the game mode
rotund beacon
Moving or rush?
odd bear
The game mode
prime pine
Its a game mode that includes multiple sectors where the attacking side must desrroy mcoms to push up. The defending side must prevent that.
rotund beacon
No it sucks
prime pine
Its a fun game mode
odd bear
Well..
solid hinge
in bfv it's kind of like a smaller scale breakthrough
prime pine
Its a game mode where you can't fuck around
odd bear
It says that I need to play one round of rush to get the stug skin
prime pine
You have to push
odd bear
is it worth it?
prime pine
I wont be able to get them cause i have to go do shit today
coral fiber
Oof
prime pine
As someone who is flying bombers. No matter what skin you have, You're a target.
coral fiber
Yep
prime pine
Tan skins stick out the most.
odd bear
Do you guys have any tip for bombers and medic?
prime pine
So a boy in a fresh tiger is more likely to be bombed than a gray one
prime pine
You need to improve your vision
coral fiber
^
rotund beacon
Medic is nice
prime pine
You need to expend ALL of your big bombs for the tank
odd bear
I always see tanks to kill but
coral fiber
That and dive at bit when dropping your bombs so you get less spread
rotund beacon
Carry smoke
prime pine
You need to group them together
coral fiber
^
odd bear
Always does fucking aa campers mess my fucking day
prime pine
Imma find a video for you
Aa's should be your priority
Tanks cant really deal with you
coral fiber
Oh yeah you'll be able to take out an AA tank in 1 run
odd bear
I can destroys aa in a 1v1
But if it is 1v2
Even I destroy one thing, the other rips me apart
coral fiber
Then think a bit more strategic about it
odd bear
That's cool
coral fiber
If they're both together you should be able to take both of them out
odd bear
But, it quite suicide
prime pine
Focus on taking them out from a different angle
prime pine
Oh then you're fucked
prime pine
odd bear
The German fighters are too op though
prime pine
Here is how i bomb
odd bear
Thanks for the video
coral fiber
Yeah true
prime pine
My own bomber blocks my view which is annoying
coral fiber
But the ju88c melts spits
But the blenheim just sucks
odd bear
Belhiem at least has a 360 turret
coral fiber
Yeah
odd bear
Those fucking 30mils
coral fiber
If i was in a fighter i will guarantee there will be no enemy bomber within a minute
I'm an innocent pilot
prime pine
We'll probably just truce and leave each other alone being honest
prime pine
As bad as it is. I just want to learn these things and then never touch them again
coral fiber
I want proper vehicle balancing tho
109 feels too superior
odd bear
I even tried to take down a bomber but the fucking aa bothers me
solid hinge
it's high damage
prime pine
The nose gunner with a friend turns you into a fucking pain
You can pursue planes from most angles practically
coral fiber
If you're going to kill a bomber and there AA hittin you
Don't be greedy, just receed from the area
prime pine
I just realised i bought all the "last" skins for all my planes
Yet i wont touch tanks ironically
coral fiber
You'll end up dying incase that bomber switches to it's gunner and AA is still hittin you
prime pine
Priotisise aa's over anything else
coral fiber
^
prime pine
If theres a plane on you fly out of the area
coral fiber
That's crucial in a dogfight especially
prime pine
Aa's make a massive difference
odd bear
I did try going in circles when there was a fighter on me
Soon they just leave me because they can't seem to catch me
But, the fucking aa always mess the fuck up
coral fiber
Cuz either the AA will take you down or he'll damage your wing and you'll never make it
Huh?
Oh
Oh yeah i have
prime pine
Look i swear it was by accident
coral fiber
I said
The Pilot Guy Approves
odd bear
Wow...
coral fiber
Ikr
I screamed in pleasure
Cuz I've never done this before
I was always trash at sniping
Ahh this iconic clip that got me wondering about my accuracy in fighters
https://xboxclips.com/GETMEMEDONLOL/665f73da-343c-4343-91b7-81d6c4a8abf8/embed
odd bear
What is the best map for being a medic?
coral fiber
Probably underground since it's a meatgrinder
solid hinge
Probably underground
coral fiber
Nice
coral fiber
Yep
odd bear
Is hamada or as sudan okay though?
solid hinge
They're harder
You'll have trouble with most smgs unless you stay in areas that are less wide open
coral fiber
Bodie we should fly sometime
Flying doesn't really impact me that much in different regions
odd bear
Do we have to use things like mab 38 or mp40?
solid hinge
Does anyone actually like the new StuG skin? I mean it would be good for desert maps
I mean vehicle camo works
The Hinterhalt-Tarnug for the StuG is perfect for Twisted Steel
hallow perch
if its not gold then its not sold
prime pine
If you know what routes and methods to use. Subbies are usable on everything BUT panzerstorm
undone steppe
just rotate between c and d on panzerstorm and your fine
placid trellis
is anyone having connection problems to EA?
gusty lance
nope but I am completely uninstalling BFV
thin nacelle
Earlier in the day when i was playing rush there was a game where the match just quit on everyone. Nothing about disconnect or anything, match just ragequit
But that's about it, don't know if that counts as a problem connevting to EA
gusty lance
go to play BFV after 4 months of a break, first lobby, aimbot esp cheating cuck
DICE needs to worry about Anti Cheat no matter what iconic maps or shit you bring no one will play with cheaters
echo turtle
They're working on it
gusty lance
they said that a year ago
echo turtle
The new version is going to scan ram for programs that are latched onto the game
gusty lance
The game is beyond repair at this point
gusty lance
yeah as the game is too far gone
they where too worried about maps, guns, and that micro transaction stuff
echo turtle
Suppose you're going to cod or something
echo turtle
Let's forget about the past
prime pine
They care more for micro transactions than the game itself
echo turtle
C'mon man
gusty lance
BF4 had issues yeah, but at least they fixed them beyond the time have yet to do so for BFV
echo turtle
Let's just forget about it
gusty lance
9/10 lobbies on BFV cheating scum
echo turtle
That shit never happened
gusty lance
lets be frank they care more about money and greed than the core player base and game functionality
echo turtle
Worked in the past
prime pine
The product shouldnt be broken in the first place
gusty lance
Business 101 DICE, want to make money on a game, make sure it ain't a broken mess that push people / potential buyers for your micro transactions away
thats why BF3 and BF4 Player count is rising as BFVs is falling
gusty lance
As long as it is not a broken piece of crap like BFV
I'll play it
and probably enjoy it
echo turtle
Fuck man, it's like games are built around live service so they can get money in different ways removing the part where we pay for dlc
And they promise x years of content
gusty lance
X years of content does not matter if the game the content is released on is unplayable 99% of the time
echo turtle
Build up hype, deliver product poorly, rush out a day 1 patch and wait for shit to ease up
Oh shit is that an announcement trailer for a new game from a series that we thought was dead?
Let's throw caution to the wind and whip out our wallets to preorder the damned thing so we can cry about our poor choice later on
thin nacelle
Don't do that to me, i loved mirror's edge eagerly awaiting a sequel for many years just for catalyst to disappoint me massively :(
echo turtle
We do the same thing every year and we expect a different outcome
past horizon
I'm guessing there's no way to report an active hacker, is there?
Dude is 58 and 0 with the lewis gun and is headshotting everyone
thin nacelle
Sounds like a regular game on xbox
prime pine
Ive had a good 45+ people accuse me of cheating
They funny.
Just bayonet charge the fuckers
fallow hawk
But oh well I can't afford it right now 😕
latent bridge
i thought i was accused of being a hacker when i go on a killstreak for a minute
then i knew there was a hacker on my team getting nearly 40 kills with at least 5 deaths
shy badger
People have been accusing others of cheats pretty often as of late
I'm guessing it's because the whole talk about cheaters flooding the game
The bf chat became a witchhunt for cheaters
sonic moss
I got accused of cheating because I got lucky and hit 5 headshots on 2 different people
Or something like that
autumn nest
Ever since Rush started it's been a whole new wave of this
sonic moss
People are paranoid about cheaters
autumn nest
People either accused of cheating or actually being caught doing it
feral condor
Why is there like 10 servers
solid hinge
bad time of day
short pecan
yeah middle of the night in NA and morning in europe
tribal wave
short pecan
im so glad they added a bunch of new maps to rush, they could have cheaped out and just given us the old 3+underground
solid hinge
I like the old maps better
like twisted steel, the older version just flows better
I didn't bother with underground after a few tries, first sector is impossible
just a sniperfest
short pecan
all you need is smoke
solid hinge
if that scenario was in an actual battle, any good commander would call in artillery and flatten the whole street
job done
short pecan
well that wouldnt be very fun in a game
amber goblet
Guys we have bf6 next year right ?
prime pine
That was dirty
But i had ti do it
I was camping ontop of the rooftoop on the last sector on marita with an mmg
Such awesome defence
solid hinge
someone spawned in a sturmtiger and I jumped in, got on the grenade launcher, held down fire and just camped the objective .. 17 kills in a minute . was epic
versed flare
How does the m1a1 compare to the m42
gray glade
more ammo
gray glade
m1a1 has more ammo (20) while m42ag has 10
m42 is more accurate, its a bit more snipey
which scopes is up to you, but personally i use 3x for the m42 because its really accurate, so why not
versed flare
Fastest way to rank up my gun?
undone steppe
killin
gray glade
it used to be the grind mode, but nowadays underground or breakthrough i'd say
because you know where ppl will be really
in conquest ppl are all over the map
undone steppe
if only they left the underground playlist 😦
versed flare
Mhm thanks 😊
balmy creek
M1A1s damage is rather low from my experience using it
undone steppe
im not a fan either
versed flare
Is m42 bad without specializations?
undone steppe
i rock sturmgewehr and stg 44 mainly
undone steppe
my fav gun is the geweher 1-5
versed flare
Ruby or P38?
balmy creek
P38
undone steppe
p38
balmy creek
Both the German pistols are great
versed flare
How do u nade on Xbox I can’t find the keybinds
versed flare
I see
shy badger
omfg this game is so annoying
I can only get small conquest maps every time I search
Fuck fjell fuck devestation and fuck underground
balmy creek
Use the Advanced Search feature
shy badger
It never works for me
balmy creek
Search for ones with open spots
balmy creek
Well, 'blacklist', it just doesn't search for those
undone steppe
reset filter then go to full filter to tweak it
versed flare
Hey I have the little white dot next to YOUR COMPANY and I can’t find what it is..
balmy creek
@shy badger If you stay and play the game in its entirety you might be lucky enough to get a big map
@versed flare Just use the "Mark all as read" button
undone steppe
rotterdam is awesome tho
shy badger
It's one of my favs but I got sick of playing the same small sized conquest maps
balmy creek
Probably a bug
versed flare
Lol
undone steppe
its just a battlefield that got addicted to heroin and never moved on in life
undone steppe
thats a little insulting to weed
balmy creek
He'll be kicked out soon
undone steppe
we are seriously lacking in maps though, the pacific couldnt come sooner
balmy creek
Exactly
undone steppe
and guns
gray glade
jalalalalabad
undone steppe
such a fun map
gray glade
that was a city map right?
undone steppe
we were talking about bf2 maps cause thats what btk was from
balmy creek
Yeah, i know
undone steppe
ahh, yeah vanilla maps were good tho
undone steppe
o/
dusk canopy
Zap zap
tacit kelp
echo glen
hoary condor
They need to build maps for that game mode
Not recycle maps that really don’t work
Need to win 2 more games then I’m done with it
gray glade
I think a part of why decent pilots can go on streaks like that is because alot of the time infantry doesn't have much to resist with
hoary condor
1 more game too win
gray glade
of rush squid?
wintry horizon
Why can i not select the left path for the Ju 88 A?
hexed trail
Why i cant find a balanced server
Like so many last matches all un balanced
Go to the general chat
This is only for Bf related
solid hinge
im lvl 99 on bf1 and my max service star for a gun is 4
i rarely use a gun long enough
compact oxide
dark sorrel
Jalalabad is a sick map
solid hinge
Hhu
royal gull
I can't wait for private games so i can setup a schizo servers that rotates Al Sudan and Underground Conquest/Breakthrough and nothing else
normal turret
So you alternate between battlefield and cod?
sonic moss
imagine cod making a metro map
shell fog
yeah private server with operation underground, 3000 tickets ;D
sonic moss
having i should say
normal turret
Underground 3000 tickets aka the place the toxic tryhard medic players go and the rest of the servers can be nice
undone steppe
bruh i was just thinking earlier how great a underground/ al sundan server would be
perfect battlefield server
shell fog
3000 tickets -> many points ❤
undone steppe
3 hours long metro matches in bf3 lol
plush bloom
Good way to cure a hangover? Play some bf5 😆
brisk field
bf4 servers fucked again?
gray glade
every server with underground now has like 5-10 ppl in queue for it
normal turret
I mean it has had its fair share of time