battlefield-legacy-titles

[midnight nimbus]

200% accuracy is really easy

[solid hinge]

So there's that too

[wild kayak]

I say, give Medics only shotties and some pistols as primary, give Assaults Medic's SMGs and remove ARs

[sturdy osprey]

Oh fish why so salty?

[solid hinge]

Sniping is dummy fun and easy on Metro. People holding B just show their face all the time!

[lucid kraken]

salt

[midnight nimbus]

ARs are legitimately not that good

[lucid kraken]

bring me the juice

[midnight nimbus]

in BFV

[glossy cape]

@wild kayak shit

[wild kayak]

no u

[midnight nimbus]

I think they're a mediocre weapon type at best

[prime pine]

M1907 is the one that i actually seriously consider using

[wild kayak]

coughSTG-44mediocre?cough

[solid hinge]

Springfield, Raptor?

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, M1907 is the only one i'd consider to be competitive

[prime pine]

Stg is ok

[midnight nimbus]

both the StGs blow

[sturdy osprey]

I bet it's a kid typing because he didn't get to play bfv

[solid hinge]

Or is the springfield 1903

[wild kayak]

ok

[midnight nimbus]

Ribey is ok

[prime pine]

Wish it had less horizontal recoil

I just say fuck you and give the m1907 a bayonet

Cause i hate everyone in my game and every one of those fuckers deserve it

[lucid kraken]

WOWOOW

CHILL

[solid hinge]

ribey was ultra ease of use until they changed recoil

[lucid kraken]

OMG

-caps

exdee

[solid hinge]

What? I still shred with Ribey?

[prime pine]

I havent bothered with ribey since its release

It kicks more now doesnt it

[midnight nimbus]

Ribey is fine

it's better than either StG

[solid hinge]

It's not awful or anything

It was just ultra easy to use

Now it's slightly harder

Never noticed the change.

[echo turtle]

Ribey was cool until everyone could by it

[solid hinge]

I'm super good at not being able to control recoil

[delicate herald]

Ribey shouldn’t even be in the game.

[prime pine]

Oh yeah

Ayla

[solid hinge]

so I noticed

[prime pine]

How are those slrs going for ya

[solid hinge]

Bursts, my friend. Short controlled bursts.

The ZH is still chunking everything like a dream

its.. beautiful

One day I'll learn how to burst

[prime pine]

Use the rsc/selby and then you'll learn the way

[sturdy osprey]

You makin me want ribs but sadly that's not a relevant topic here 😆

[prime pine]

Not cause im waygyanba

[solid hinge]

Most people just hold the trigger/LMB and get lucky.

[prime pine]

But cause you'll truly learn the way

[wild kayak]

I'm getting sniped more by assaults than snipers.....

[prime pine]

Just dont give 1906 a 3x+ scope its reload is painful

Even with fast reload

[glossy cape]

mp40 3x scope when

[solid hinge]

That's my problem with the selb

I'd love for console to get KBM support. That's the dream.

[wild kayak]

Why the fuck doesn't MG34 have 3x scope

[solid hinge]

Top secret

[wild kayak]

Like why the fuck

[solid hinge]

I can't utilize the faster fire rate effectively cause I'm piss at aiming with the 2x

[prime pine]

Just give it the short range scope and get used to it. Then watch the stripper reloads flow

[solid hinge]

I do like the RSC

[prime pine]

Then go fast reload with the 3x and learn

[gray glade]

i bet someone thought giving mmgs higher scope than 1½ would be OP

[solid hinge]

Comfy gun

[prime pine]

Its bot bad ey

I swap between recoil buffer and quick aim

Both equally as good

[solid hinge]

I've got it on hipfire so I've taken buffer for now

If they get too close and bayonetting is risky then the revolver has higher dps so I'll bust that out instead

[prime pine]

I go for the faster reload

But hip fire aint bad

Rsc is the most flexible slr alongside the zh.

[solid hinge]

I'm not sure why I'm going for hipfire on it

After the first shot it becomes really not accurate

..I should probably stop that

[prime pine]

Then i shall shun you!

Nah seriously. I bet the other reason was for slings and swivels

[wild kayak]

MMGs have hipfire effective at 3 meters max, they overheat, mags aren't too large without the upgrades, bipod only helps a bit and max scope you can get is 1.5x

Meanwhile assaults run around with automatic sniper rifles

[midnight nimbus]

10m easily

for MMG zoomed without bipod

[wild kayak]

well, not MG34

[solid hinge]

[midnight nimbus]

"""hipfire""" so to speak

all MMGs have the same spread too

so it doesn't matter

[prime pine]

Mmg's 540< rpm should have the option to mount a scope

If they ever do so

[midnight nimbus]

because it's not actually hipfire

it's still technically ADS if you hit right mouse button without a bipod

so your spread is biased towards the center

[prime pine]

You can lean while such is being done

[midnight nimbus]

yeah bc the game doesn't think in "ADS" vs hipfire

the presence of sights is superfluous

it thinks in zoomed vs unzoomed

[echo turtle]

Is this fallout 3?

[glossy cape]

who wants to hear a joke

mp34

[echo turtle]

Who wants to hear a joke?

The great war

[teal compass]

ok

[solid hinge]

MP34 is actually a damn fine smg post buff. I delete teams with the gun.

The real joke is the Liberator pistol

[eager cosmos]

How can i download the free battlefield ? it doens't show on origin

[echo turtle]

Did you activate the free trial

[wild kayak]

Gotta love MMG logic

ironsight - 1.5x
lens - 1.25x

[dense bone]

thats on a few guns

[wild kayak]

Start shooting a dude with MG34 from 1 meter

he turns around and kills me with his Stg44

Same thing again, just from 5 meters

[solid hinge]

You guys use optics on MMG's, wtf?

[wild kayak]

and again

[echo turtle]

Don't aim down sights in CQC

[prime pine]

You're more focused in the irons

Guess it makes sense

[solid hinge]

Buff the stug

No one uses it

[prime pine]

Wish we could specifically modify the zoon

Zoom

The stug is shit cause its just a panzer with an immovable barrel

[solid hinge]

Yeah, I use iron sights almost all the time. It's very uncommon for me to use optics, just doesn't feel right to me.

[prime pine]

I use optics on weapons that need it

[solid hinge]

It's a tank-destroyer.

[prime pine]

Ar's go nydar

[wild kayak]

Imagine MMGs but bipods actually help with the recoil

[prime pine]

Subbies go nydar

[wild kayak]

lol

[prime pine]

Lmg's just a mix

For a tank destroyer in comparison to the archer it does a piss poor job

[solid hinge]

Well, that's because this is in respect to battlefield. In game, it's doo-doo. But in real life....

[prime pine]

Vehicle on vehicle balance is fucked

I would re design the damage model of everything to work accoridingly

[solid hinge]

Yeah. The Tiger should one-shot most if not all Brit tanks.

[soft atlas]

why did the map got removed

the underground one

[echo turtle]

It didn't

[solid hinge]

Valentine is the best tank

[prime pine]

No for balance i would at least allow it to consistently do 30 damage to the front of it

[soft atlas]

oh wait

[echo turtle]

The playlist was removed

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge Arguable, but I see why you'd say.

[prime pine]

HEAT +20

[gray saffron]

the 24/7 playlist was a weekly limited rotation. it changes every week

[solid hinge]

Can outshoot a tiger if you're careful about it

[prime pine]

Make the 75mm cannon on the 88c OHKO bombers

Regardless of health

[solid hinge]

I've done that before. And in a Churchil.

[gray glade]

you can still play underground in normal playlist

but i wish i could play it 24/7

[solid hinge]

Server browser? Or are player owned servers a no-go anymore.

[echo turtle]

Soon ™

[wild kayak]

Soooo, Stg is the AEK of BFV

[echo turtle]

Still got a month to go

[wild kayak]

The Hellriegel/SMG 08/18 of BFV

[echo turtle]

Or less

Which STG?

There's 2

[solid hinge]

I assume 44

[echo turtle]

The 44 is mediocre

[solid hinge]

You think so?

[echo turtle]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

What about it do you see issues with?

[echo turtle]

Fire rate

Accuracy

[wild kayak]

How to win a match of Rush in BFV: Be in Attackers and not Defenders.

[echo turtle]

I use it for its iconism

[solid hinge]

Yeah, it does fire out quick. Ammo is always an issue.

[echo turtle]

It feels like it's always being replaced

[prime pine]

Stg is nowhere as overbearing as the aek was

[solid hinge]

Haven't used the StG44 in over a month, but I remember the TTK on it was quick.

[prime pine]

I can call the m1907 the next aek but i'd be sounding like a moron

[echo turtle]

If the 44 was the first rifle you got I'd be a little more fine with it

[hoary condor]

stg44 is dope

[solid hinge]

Not a fan of the volkssturmgewehr being the standard issue?

[hoary condor]

pick another gun

[echo turtle]

I'm fine with it

Just the 44 doesn't feel like compensation enough for getting to rank 13

[hoary condor]

put x1.5 on it

[solid hinge]

Gotchya.

Ew wth

Iron sight all the way.

[hoary condor]

even a x3 wlps

[wild kayak]

Using MGs as stationary weapons does not work in Rush.

It's a big no no

[echo turtle]

I've used it religiously

[hoary condor]

same then i found a new gun

44

[dense bone]

nydar/reflex sights all day

[echo turtle]

The 1916 felt good when I got it

It felt like something that was worth the grind

[coral fiber]

Aperture

[solid hinge]

I like aperture on some weapons

Primarily the Ross

I was 2 away from an 80 bomb on underground 😭😭😭

[gray glade]

not bad for a dog

[solid hinge]

might cry idk

[wild kayak]

I'm just pissed how Assault in BFV is good at all ranges

Especially at mid

[solid hinge]

Assault should have the shotguns and smgs

[wild kayak]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

I hate people who main the stg

it's disgusting

[wild kayak]

And not automatic sniper rifles

[solid hinge]

but so is M19 ammo crate 🤞

Level 20 light infantry level 10 stg running around is annoying

facts

People should try other weapons

[wild kayak]

It's just like SMG 08/18 / Hellriegel from BF1

Most people will pick it and nothing else

Just because of how stupidly OP it is

Take a look at stats

Most used weapons in BF1 were SMG 08/18, Hellriegel and Federov

[echo turtle]

Federov

[wild kayak]

ikr

[solid hinge]

Federov was easy to use

[wintry horizon]

Where can i see the weekly challenges in bfv?

[solid hinge]

Should see an icon called tides of war @wintry horizon

Kinda mad I didn't get at least 90 kills that match

it was a sweaty lobby as well

I’m happy enough if I get 30 kills

Suppose I only use infantry though

[wintry horizon]

in the Play Category?

[solid hinge]

Yep

You can view them in game too

[wintry horizon]

ok and is there always only one challenge?

[solid hinge]

I was using the tommy gun running health crate and frags

literally just run into enemies, drop ur crate and hip fire

No, when you complete a challenge you have another few to complete to get the reward

[wintry horizon]

k but is there a path? like so i can see?

[solid hinge]

😐

Yeah, the tides of war screen

where can I give myself roles @solid hinge

In game too, if you press pause and select tides of war

@solid hinge #220326362077069323

ah ty

Select your reaction for your platform and region

poggers

[wild kayak]

BFV players who have played both Rush and Conquest - how bad is Rush compared to Conquest?

[solid hinge]

Game news is things in game like patch notes, server news are things like giveaways

Rush is better than conq imo

[gray glade]

rush is small mode

16 vs 16

or something

[solid hinge]

But it's very fast paced

[gray glade]

yeah, i like it

[solid hinge]

rush

[wild kayak]

I'm playing Rush rn and it's utter dogshit

[gray glade]

lol

[wild kayak]

I mean, assault mains might enjoy it but

[solid hinge]

↑ medic too

[wild kayak]

as a support main I feel oppressed

medic too, yeah

[solid hinge]

just plat defense lol

[fleet bloom]

rush is irrelevant to me since breakthrough is basically the same but with more players

[solid hinge]

support mains

[wild kayak]

What the fuck, Stg44 really is AEK / Hellriegel of BFV

like holy crap

It's full auto laser gun on mid range

[solid hinge]

Stg should be the starting weapon for assault imo

[wild kayak]

Stg should be

nerfed

[balmy creek]

^

[gray glade]

you should try the 1907 then

😄

that is even better than stg, accuracy wise

[solid hinge]

It’s boring since it’s an all rounder so you do well in every aspect

[midnight nimbus]

the AEK was legitimately not that amazing

and the StG is the epitome of mediocrity

[balmy creek]

AEK was overpowered

lul

[midnight nimbus]

it literally wasn't

none of the pros would've used it if the better ARs weren't banned

[balmy creek]

Unpopular opinion

[solid hinge]

stg44 is really not that good

[wild kayak]

It really is

[gray glade]

what would the top2 or top3 AR in BF4 be?

[wild kayak]

AEK was laser gun lol

[midnight nimbus]

almost no one would've used the AEK if comp didn't ban the FAMAS or Bulldog

[balmy creek]

Laser, high firerate

[midnight nimbus]

bc on 30Hz those guns are legitimately broken

[solid hinge]

This is some deja vu, I’m pretty sure I’ve had a conversation about the stg with @solid hinge before

Most of my time in here is having the same conversation with different people

I love ig

[midnight nimbus]

StG is objectively the epitome of mediocrity in BFV

literally doesn't do anything well

[balmy creek]

repeating your statement doesn't prove anything

[gray glade]

ohh, i remember the famas

[balmy creek]

tell us WHY

[gray glade]

wrecking the pubs with famas was 👌

[solid hinge]

Pretty sure I made a witty joke about me being relatable to the stg

[midnight nimbus]

1907 cleanly out DPSes the StG from 0-50m

semis cleanly out DPS the StG past 10m

shit, even the Ribey out DPSes the StG after 30m

[solid hinge]

Ribeyrolles

[midnight nimbus]

SMGs wreck (non 1907) ARs from 0-30

LMGs are literally just better ARs bc no spread increase and identical handling

[solid hinge]

Wish the smgs were faster, even the game mentions that the sten made up for its low accuracy with a high rate of fire at 540

[midnight nimbus]

doesn't need to be

fast ADS time and sprint out by default

and good hipfire for SMGs

it doesn't matter that the Sten shoots slower than the StG, bc in a firefight, you get to start shooting first

[solid hinge]

Wish assault had the smgs, but then I wish guns weren’t assigned to classes

Like in bf4

[wild kayak]

LMGs are literally just better ARs

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 all class guns were a meme for everyone but recon anyways

[wild kayak]

[solid hinge]

Using a carbine on recon

[midnight nimbus]

what do ARs do better than LMGs? here's a good chance for you to be wrong again

[wild kayak]

Well, ADSing for example?

Not having recoil?

hipfiring?

quick reloading?

[solid hinge]

I thought the hip fire was worse?

[wild kayak]

What

[solid hinge]

ARs and SMGs get notably worse recoil after 5 bullets because of the recoil system

LMGs can magdump

[midnight nimbus]

SMGs literally have less recoil than ARs

and hipfire much much better

[solid hinge]

Horizontal recoil is the part that really effects accuracy as well because you cant mitigate that

[midnight nimbus]

and generally reload as fast as well

[wild kayak]

hipfiring is done at like 1-5 meters

[midnight nimbus]

SMGs are literally given good enough hipfire to 30m

[solid hinge]

smgs with hipfire specs have sick hipfire

[midnight nimbus]

it's still 15-20m without hipfire specs

[solid hinge]

Isn’t it the mp20 that’s fast and really good at hip fire?

First time I used double hipfire spec SMG I just about wet myself

Mp28 gets both hipfire specs along with bigmag

[wild kayak]

Some support players have weapons that are not even listed in my choices

like wth

[solid hinge]

And 670rpm

Oh the mp28

I thought it was called the mp20

I did too for a while

Lots of mp(number) guns

Maschienpistole

I’m trying to decide if I prefer the emp or mp34

imo mp34 is the weakest smg

Emp can get double hipfire specs and barrel bedding

Highest damage by like a small green bar though

Which is super good

The mp34 extra damage isnt even worth it

It doesnt actually kill faster

It does slightly better damage at range

Which is PANTS

I’m not even sure that was even intended

poor mp34

It's the only smg with a bayonet but you have to give up one of the best specs in the game for it

barrel bedding rules

Bayonet isn’t relevant anymore 😔

;_;

[wild kayak]

Some players have weapons that aren't even listed in my choices

how do I get them

[solid hinge]

Most likely the weapons added later in game

Must pay company coins

You either havent unlocked them yet or they're from old tides of war

In which case you buy them

[wild kayak]

lol female screams are both cringy and funny

[solid hinge]

All available in your company menu

[wild kayak]

Alright, thanks

[solid hinge]

[wild kayak]

It's like

'Why the heck is this in my game'

BF1 had some mods which made the models more realistic

Was very immersive and cool

I wonder if BFV gets some mods like that

[solid hinge]

😔

[wild kayak]

Yeah, at least that

So many people play with the captain hats and such

it looks dumb lol

[solid hinge]

The major hat for pre order isn’t great but I suppose people like what they like

If you wanna play as a french woman and have a fiver to spare go for it

[wild kayak]

what

That sounds stupid

Mentally insane people shouldn't be soldiers

They're dangerous

[solid hinge]

Seems to be justified since she is trained in psychological warfare

And I don’t think she’s crazy

Just a bit quirky 😳

[midnight nimbus]

I think Charlie is onto something

Chris Kyle was a pathological liar and had an insane irl K/D

[teal compass]

i heard yall

talking aboutm y waifu Ilse

[mint night]

gg again dice,i join after 1 month away and you still make the fps even worse.............

[teal compass]

😳

[simple kayak]

[teal compass]

Ilse is hella thicc

[solid hinge]

Ilse kinda quirky doe

[wild kayak]

She looks edgy

No thanks I prefer Peter

[solid hinge]

Like in bf1, I want smgs on assault and semi auto rifles on medic, then like in bf4 I want shotguns, assault rifles and self loading rifles to be used with any class

[light zenith]

Guys, what is the best method to earn EXP?

[solid hinge]

@light zenith you can use vehicle buster and shoot at tanks with the panzerfaust for increased points

Spotting with a flare or scope works too

[wild kayak]

Not spooky

just edgy and tryhard spooky

[light zenith]

Ok

[balmy creek]

@steady nymph "not edgy"

uses a personalized pickaxe to slaughter her enemies, all the whilst playing with them before she kills them

[solid hinge]

Pathfinder archetype allows you to earn more points when someone spawns on your spawn beacon

[light zenith]

What is the best map to do so?

[solid hinge]

@balmy creek playing

[wild kayak]

also gas mask and edgy clothes

[solid hinge]

Breakthrough and rush are good for if you want to easily find people

[balmy creek]

Yes, she plays with her victim in her trailer @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

197-25 almost hit the 200 😭

[wild kayak]

face not visible hurr durr

[solid hinge]

Yes I know that

[tacit kelp]

@solid hinge Map:D ??

3 fucking kills 😦

[solid hinge]

Devastation

[balmy creek]

Ew

That map gives me headaches

[solid hinge]

Devastation

[balmy creek]

Just like the irl city

[tacit kelp]

CQ??

[balmy creek]

Amsterdam is way better

[solid hinge]

Monotone colours apart from the kinda colourful alleyway and the fire everywhere

breakthrough and spam flares

easiest way to get xp

you can top your team without getting a single kill

[tacit kelp]

@balmy creek Eindhoven ?? 😄

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge bro I said that to him 😳

[balmy creek]

@tacit kelp Lolno

[solid hinge]

It's worth repeating !

Damn.. no one listens to mr emoji but when the mod posts in the server everyone gathers round them

We live in a society

[teal compass]

hi shauno

😳

[solid hinge]

Ok now this is something that can cheer me up from the never ending melancholy that manifests itself into the form of me 😳

[teal compass]

😳

[keen depot]

Anyone know if the booster pack is coming back

[latent dagger]

booster pack

[keen depot]

The chapter 4 one

[wild kayak]

What the actual fuck

It's just like BF4 and BF1

Doesn't matter that I start shooting first with my MG

Assault will simply turn around and finish me quicker

Ah, my fault for being so close

[solid hinge]

i feel like i get 1-shotted all the time in bf4

sm

*smh

[wild kayak]

I felt like so too

[echo turtle]

We already had the chapter 4 starter pack

[wild kayak]

Then I took MG4 with bipod, FLIR 2x and UCAV

and started rekting zergs

[solid hinge]

What gun were you using?

[wild kayak]

MG4

or whatever it's called

[solid hinge]

If it's a slower one and assault was using a faster one then it can happen

[wild kayak]

oh

you mean BFV

Well

MG34

[solid hinge]

Ye

You were bipodded?

[wild kayak]

Yep

[solid hinge]

Or hipfire

[wild kayak]

bipod

[solid hinge]

How far away were they

[wild kayak]

about 6 meters

[teal compass]

you shoot first, you die first

same thing happened to germany

😩

[wild kayak]

Yeeeah

That's why I became a camper in BF1 and BF4

And MGs finally started to work

MMGs in BFV don't have scopes tho

[teal compass]

good

[wild kayak]

nuh

Assaults get automatic sniper rifles

Support needs something too

[solid hinge]

i throw med packs like crazy at team mates in bf4

@solid hinge thank you for the suggestion for hip fire emp

[teal compass]

support gets MMGs

[solid hinge]

even though i am an assault class

It is rather fun to use

[trail blaze]

Has anyone ran into a bug on the Last Tiger mission to where it would not show that one of the challenges was completed

but ingame it says one has been completed but not the other

This is referring to mission 2 Turning Point if anyone else has had this

[wild kayak]

Hmmm

MMGs are pretty decent on open maps

At least on Arras

I really like Arras

[icy sluice]

Good map

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge its comfy! Hipfire works well with crouch running

If you come out of normal running and hipfire it's kinda janky but if you hipfire out of crouch running it's super accurate

@trail blaze that bugs been in it since the beginning

[trail blaze]

is there a self applicable fix?

[solid hinge]

If they were 6 metres away then that's definitely close enough for them to turn it round on you if you missed a few shots @wild kayak

Not afaik @trail blaze, I think you have to contact support

[trail blaze]

yikes alright

[wild kayak]

Okay, Bren with 3x scope is pretty damn fokkin good

That stability and accuracy

[solid hinge]

Bren is super good

Eeww

[wild kayak]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Probably best automatic weapon

[wild kayak]

Like holy crap

[solid hinge]

well.. outclassed by madsen now

Still good though

[wild kayak]

It feels OP compared to KE-7 or MG34

I mean, MG34 is more lethal at closer ranges

but still

[solid hinge]

Ke7 is the weakest lmg imo

mg34 is also actually the best ranged mmg

keheh

[wild kayak]

Like holy crap

I can not only see my enemies now

I can also hit them

[gray glade]

the mg34 is so awesome at range

[wild kayak]

If it only had at least 2x scope tho..

[tulip summit]

x3 scope are the perfect solution to my myopia lol

[wild kayak]

MMG with 3x and I'd be in heaven

[gray glade]

yeah i'd love to see at least 2x

3x if possible but 2x would be fine

[wild kayak]

But yeah

I'm getting sniped more by assaults than snipers

[solid hinge]

Mg34 with 3x would be so hard to counter

The semi autos are the best weapons in the game currently

The bolt actions are Shite

[wild kayak]

yeah

[hazy wasp]

anyone else getting wild rubberbanding on PS4 atm?

[wild kayak]

To everyone picking those gay ass colorful skins for their equipment - thank you

It's so easy to see you :D

[dense bone]

probably best to not use gay in that way

[solid hinge]

[wild kayak]

I don't care

I'm not trying to offend anyone

and I'm not referring to homosexuals but to the original meaning of the word

[dense bone]

dont gotta explain anything to me

[wild kayak]

dont gotta explain anything to me either

[rotund beacon]

I don’t know what’s going on

[sage thorn]

Hello

[solid hinge]

[little raptor]

I think they shoulda kept Underground as an endless playable map

even tho it would mean that everyone would only be playing that

its such a good and fun map, the rest of BFV feels somewhat bland in comparison

I really wonder how different the community consensus of BFV would be if Al Sundan came out on time

[gray saffron]

the game was still struggling a lot of big bugs before 4.6 though. most of the patches felt like small bandages that caused other issues elsewhere. it wasn't just lack of maps that was the issue with chapter 4.

[wild kayak]

I think they should have allowed dedicated fukkin servers

[gray saffron]

dedicated "flippin'" servers will be coming chapter 5. was originally scheduled with the 4.6 patch, but got delayed

[hazy wasp]

the vehicle resupply on rush on Twisted steel is so fucking stupid it hurts

[teal compass]

im glad they decided

to add more vehicle resupply

on breakthrough maps

[wild kayak]

Really?

[plucky torrent]

The game does have dedicated servers. Thing is they’re all owned and run by DICE/EA

[teal compass]

yes

[wild kayak]

That's damn good

I mean

[teal compass]

there used to be no resupply station on the 2nd sector of twisted steel

[wild kayak]

Dedicated servers made by players are essential

[gray saffron]

yeah, Private Games Feature = player hosted servers

[wild kayak]

There should be less resupply stations

[little raptor]

Private Games will be that, but its still in development

[solid hinge]

there should be more resupply stations considering how easy they are to destroy

[midnight nimbus]

hey or maybe

just maybe

they should go back to not having resupply stations

[solid hinge]

lalalala I cant hear you in my valentine

[midnight nimbus]

because it worked perfectly

[plucky torrent]

From what I’m reading on RSP, the servers will still be hosted by DICE

[midnight nimbus]

in literally every other BF that's relevant

[wild kayak]

H m m m

More accuracy or more stability for Bren

[solid hinge]

Reduced horizontal recoil > reduced vertical recoil

[plucky torrent]

Also the private server will evaporate once it empties, lol

[solid hinge]

iirc best bren specs was the right side

[teal compass]

make it where its harder to destroy resupply stations

like 2 shots from a tank shell

😩

[midnight nimbus]

or

[solid hinge]

they're already too easy to camp on

[midnight nimbus]

just don't have them at all

[teal compass]

bruh

have tanks break down

like real life

[midnight nimbus]

they're literally creating more problems than they solve

because they don't actually solve anything

[hazy wasp]

NOOO

we almost had that haha

Armed the bomvb on 1 ticket almost went off and enemy defused

[wild kayak]

It'd be cool if halftracks had functionality of those from BF1942

Resupplying and healing

instead of those static resupply stations

[hazy wasp]

myself and the other guy in my squad were having a laugh though the dude could stack up the kills

basically I'd get us in and among the enemies and he'd go to town, respawn repeat

[teal compass]

people that just want to have a good time play battlefield?

😩

[hazy wasp]

i know right

without mics we stealth cleard out the first objective quiuetly on Twiste steel too haha

lots of people went to sleeps

[solid hinge]

lol

[wild kayak]

The mortar ability of PIAT should be moved to Supports AT gun

Also I'm being killed by assaults like 80% of the time

[solid hinge]

Assault is too good, the ability to regen much quicker and more health is stupid and the fact that they can pick up more ammo is odd

Suppose they need it though

https://tenor.com/view/battle-battlefield-v-bf5-never-be-the-same-gif-11886474

[wild kayak]

What the fuck

They can do that? @solid hinge

like what the actual fuck

[solid hinge]

@wild kayak light infantry combat role can

[wild kayak]

Who thought it'd be a good idea to give that to them

with all those weapons

and all those gadgets

[solid hinge]

Assault could run from point to point

[teal compass]

blame shauno

[solid hinge]

It is true I did make it so they had those abilities

[teal compass]

yes

ban shauno now

😔

[solid hinge]

😔

[teal compass]

😔

[wild kayak]

Assault is too damn OP

[solid hinge]

light infantry is one of the only good combat roles

Vehicle buster is for point grinding

Even vehicle buster is more useful than medics roles

Field medic > combat medic

Machine gunner > engineer

[wild kayak]

I like engineer more

What the heck is up with first points in Rush as defenders on Underground

do Attackers spawn on the objectives or what lol

[solid hinge]

engineer is solely useful for stationary weapon positions

and they either suck or dont need to magdump

only place it probably noticeably benefits is as a gunner on a bomber

Machine gunner builds just as fast as engineer does

[wild kayak]

You're right

[solid hinge]

I used to think engineer was the one that built faster

But they're the same

Which makes engineer shit

[wild kayak]

Yeah

SUPPORT builds faster

than other classes

[solid hinge]

Yeah

I misread it all

[wild kayak]

I mean

Engineer is probably way to go when you're crewing a tank

[solid hinge]

Oh shig

Yeah that's true

I forgot about the repairs

So engineer if shotgun or dedicated tank repairer

machine gunner every other time

Vehicle buster if dedicated hunting a tank
light infantry any other time
engineer if dedicated repairing a tank
machine gunner any other time
combat medic if dedicated melee hunting
field medic any other time
pathfinder if spawning on someone elses spawn beacon
sniper any other time

half the combat roles are incredibly niche and the other half are general purpose

they could just combine them and make them passive abilities of each class

[gray saffron]

i think pre-release the combat roles were supposed to have a lot more meaning, but playtesters prolly didn't like it

[solid hinge]

Yeah

They were gonna have whole archetype things

They looked really cool

Then they axed it and were left with these combat role hang ons

[warped ferry]

for real guys what do you think about bf5 in general

[wild kayak]

It's a lot of fun

[warped ferry]

i thing its utterly garbage compared to bf4/1

[wild kayak]

Except for OP assault

Well, it's different from BF4/1

[warped ferry]

ttk and gameplay are so broken

[wild kayak]

I think it needs many more maps

TTK?

[teal compass]

time to kill

[wild kayak]

How?

[warped ferry]

in 4 and 1 it was makeable to get 20 kills without being the best but in shtfield 5 with its call of duty ttk where almost everything onetaps you

[wild kayak]

Well that's kinda true

[warped ferry]

this should have become a second COD:WW2 imo based on how its made

[wild kayak]

I feel like assault and medic weapons 1-frame in close combat

but that was also a thing in BF4 and 1

[warped ferry]

i mean yeah there was a effort to make it good but they screwed it over so damn massive.........

first off the lauch was not rly making me want to buy the game at all

and even the 10 bucks i payed were 10 to much when i think about games who are f2p who deliver better support and overall gameplay

[wild kayak]

I think it's a pretty decent BF1 mod

Worth $10 I'm planning to spend on it once the prices drop

lol

[warped ferry]

dont spend even 10 bucks its not worth it

[twin current]

What guns do you guys use in rush

[wild kayak]

@twin current what are u looking for

If you're assault use Stg44

[warped ferry]

everything i use just tickles the enemy no matter what

[wild kayak]

Sten for medic

[twin current]

for some reason I struggle with choosing guns in rush

[wild kayak]

What class

[twin current]

dont have issues in other gamemodes

assault and support

[warped ferry]

even the suomi with 1000 rpm is trash

[wild kayak]

Assault is noob class but

Stg 44 is OP

[warped ferry]

bf4 was waaaaaaaaaay better there

[wild kayak]

as for Support - I would recommend unlocking Bren asap

[solid hinge]

er

[twin current]

i have it unlocked, im not new to the game or anything

but thx

[solid hinge]

iirc bf4 has faster kill times than bfv

[warped ferry]

every gun i used wasnt able to win a firefight even when firing first and hitting the head

[wild kayak]

I actually agree @solid hinge

[warped ferry]

but in bf4 it works just fine for me

[wild kayak]

no AEKs or ACW-Rs or whatever

Suomi KP is op lol

[warped ferry]

every gun is trash imo in bf5

[solid hinge]

theres definitely guns that arent trash

[wild kayak]

Fun fact, Russian PPD, PPSH etc are kinda ripoffs of Suomi KP

[solid hinge]

bigmag suomi is a common pick

[warped ferry]

almost every gun is based on stg44 or 45 so..........

[wild kayak]

lol yeah

surprised there's no AK

[warped ferry]

it was invented after war

1947

[wild kayak]

ik

but Battlefields are not historically accurate

[warped ferry]

yeah 5 the least

[solid hinge]

Bf1 has quite a few prototype weapons

[wild kayak]

BF1 isn't accurate either

[warped ferry]

its at least better

[gray saffron]

i think 1 was worse with the amount of automatics, selfloading fireworks on planes, hardly any trenchwarefare ;D

[wild kayak]

Hellriegel design was literally improvised by devs

[warped ferry]

it was a real gun

[wild kayak]

Yeah

[warped ferry]

prototype but real

[wild kayak]

but there's no photo of anything that'd show left (or right?) side of the gun

And SMG 08/18 was a defensive, stationary gun

so pretty much opposite of what it is in game

[warped ferry]

there is a lot left

just search "standgeschütz hellriegel"

[solid hinge]

ww1
70 mag smg

[wild kayak]

wasn't it 81

no wait that was smg 08/18 I think

[echo turtle]

Hellreigel was 60/120 rounds depending on which variant

SMG 08/18 for both variations is 80+1

[warped ferry]

big mags werent rare in ww1 just cause its 1918 or so

some lmgs had 1000 round ammo boxes

[wild kayak]

and were stationary

[warped ferry]

not all

3 man mg support squads had these mobile

[echo turtle]

Like moving them from point to point?

[warped ferry]

1 carried 500 rounds the other 500 too and the 3rd the gun

[solid hinge]

3 man squads
mobile

[warped ferry]

yeah this can be defined as mobile

[echo turtle]

That's just moving from x to y and setting it up in a stationary position

[solid hinge]

I'd agree with that irl

Pants for a casual shooter though

[midnight nimbus]

oh man the SMG08 was so fun

[warped ferry]

ea would not give a shit about this they would just use it

just like the helicopter in bf5

1 prototype build in the last war days -> massive use in the entire war for EA

[echo turtle]

Battlefield 1 had a good handful of rare/obscure/experimental weapons

[midnight nimbus]

yeah bc experimental shit is cool and fun

[solid hinge]

they don't use the helicopter in the entire war though

currently it's literally only in firestorm

which inherently isnt historically accurate

[warped ferry]

like the arm from this one woman............

and katans in europe..............

[wild kayak]

oh man the SMG08 was so fun

[solid hinge]

prosthetics exist, and people still got so mad about that that it isnt in the game

[warped ferry]

and germans escaping with british tanks while running from their own........

[wild kayak]

I bet you had the fucking Von Kluck skin

[solid hinge]

there's no katanas currently in the game yet either

[echo turtle]

Who said the games had to be historically accurate

[midnight nimbus]

good thing you can't see katanas in europe 🙂

[solid hinge]

not sure what you mean with the tanks

[warped ferry]

its cod ww2 V2.0 for me nothing else

[wild kayak]

It's a lot of damn immersive fun when games are historically accurate

[gray saffron]

honestly, who cares if they use guns from later periods or were experimental in the war. in the time period we're fighting atm in bfv brits would be using only lee enfields, stens, thompsons, bren and lewis and stuff. people would complain there wouldn't be enough variety of weapons to choose from ;D and with the setup right now, you can choose to only use weapons that were in that exact period, others can just select the guns that they feel more comfortable with.

[midnight nimbus]

what if I told you that you don't need to be realistic to be immersive

[warped ferry]

the guns are a pure joke for me compared to bf4 or 1

[wild kayak]

What if I told you I wasn't saying that.

I was just saying that being historically accurate can give a lot of fun and immersion

I did not say that's the only way

[warped ferry]

4/1 had 20+ guns per class and bf4 could share them along classes

[midnight nimbus]

man i wish the Suomi had its 71 round drum to become SMG08 2.0

[warped ferry]

and they were good guns not like these pea guns on bf5

[hybrid dock]

4 used a lot of weapons from 3

[warped ferry]

4 is the last gold bf for me

1 was silver and 5 is pure shit

[wild kayak]

god I absolutely love the fortifications system

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 gunplay makes me want to throw up in my own mouth

[wild kayak]

It's so damn good

[warped ferry]

noob tactics for me

its like fortnite: being shot at -> lets just rack up some sandbags out of nowhere

[echo turtle]

It's not instantaneous

[twin current]

I love BFV gunplay. I dont like how the guns in bf4 have very little recoil

doesnt feel right to me

[wild kayak]

It's not instant lol

[warped ferry]

but judging by the dumb ppl from ea at the Gamescom this year they are not gonna make a good battlefield in the next years

its almost instant

[midnight nimbus]

maybe because modern guns are designed to have low recoil 🤔

[wild kayak]

It actually allows you to secure and defend the points

[twin current]

ik that

[wild kayak]

BF4 was fun in it's own way

[twin current]

but I just dont like it

[echo turtle]

What's innovation? Never heard of it

[wild kayak]

Just

Fuck jets

[twin current]

I understand why they made the guns have little recoil

[wild kayak]

and helicopters on maps with tall buildings

flying vehicles in BF4 can use the flares/smoke way too often

Especially jets

also screw Shanghai

[warped ferry]

even back then a stg could hit 5 hits from 20m

in bf5 it sprays like a shotgun

[wild kayak]

lol wat

Stg in bf5 is a laser gun

[midnight nimbus]

bruh this server censoring things

[echo turtle]

44?

Or the 1-5?

[midnight nimbus]

fortifications are incredibly annoying

[wild kayak]

Try using KE-7 and you'll learn what recoil is

Annoying?

[warped ferry]

explains why this shit piece cant hit the enemy on less than 10 m sometimes

[midnight nimbus]

literally just aim better

[warped ferry]

yeah just like 55 dmg snipers

[gray saffron]

"git gud" ;D

[warped ferry]

the problem aint the aim its the gun

[royal gull]

Rush fucking sucks

[warped ferry]

cause in bf1 i could spray s1 down cause the gun had some aimed bullets in beginning and not spray like a shitgun after 2 rounds

[midnight nimbus]

the StGs are mediocre but they're really not hard to use at all

[echo turtle]

Set it to semi

[royal gull]

They came up with a better execution of the same idea with Breakthrough

[solid hinge]

The new StuG skin is...good?

[echo turtle]

And start tapping

[midnight nimbus]

just hold LMB man

[warped ferry]

a stg wasnt made for tapping but still fails to do its job cause its fcked up like ususal

[gray saffron]

aim at chest, counter adjust downwards while firing, insta headshots

[warped ferry]

this might be but idk about this game anymore

its deinstalled for a reason now

[royal gull]

Seriously, why bother with Rush when you have Breakthrough?

It actually feels like a Battlefield mode

[warped ferry]

bf4 and 1 are good there everything works

[midnight nimbus]

BFV gunplay does a lot of things right but the recoil system is absolutely nonsensical

[warped ferry]

bf5 is just cod ww2 V2.0 imo

[royal gull]

At least there is no random deviation like bf1

[warped ferry]

same crappy performance and everything

[midnight nimbus]

I wish

[warped ferry]

180+ fps and still performing poor

[midnight nimbus]

bc CoD WW2 sniping is actually insane

[echo turtle]

Bfv sort of feels refreshing with how it started off

[warped ferry]

but 55 dmg body hit is not even close to real

[midnight nimbus]

spread is just converted into recoil now

which is dumb

but whatever

[echo turtle]

Instead of gunning for the Russians, Americans and the Japs they went for the Brits and the Germans

[dense bone]

bullets being converted to a sort of hp is not even close to real

[warped ferry]

This whole game is a bloody mess for me seen for the mechanics

[dense bone]

mmk

[echo turtle]

The movement is fluid most of the time

[warped ferry]

Most lol

[dense bone]

i think the game is fantastic other than optimization

[echo turtle]

The ability to roll is a nice addition

Catching yourself on the way down

[gray saffron]

i find going to other shooters now hard. vaulting usually sucks, proning is cumbersome etc. bfv really spoils you in movement.

it's essentially mirror's edge lite

[warped ferry]

Not like bf4

[midnight nimbus]

man you really haven't played many other shooters then have you?

[sonic moss]

We're seriously still going on how the game is still performing poorly

[dense bone]

idk many other games outside of movement based shooters like quake that get movement down better

[royal gull]

The revolver needs nerfed more

[echo turtle]

Imo movement feels clunky in BF4 and bf1

[warped ferry]

One or two cods csgo ofc ww3 and several small shooters who all have one in common : they are was more playble than Bf5

[dense bone]

that sentence gave me a seizure

[undone steppe]

i did feel my iq drop after reading it

[midnight nimbus]

bruh BF4 jumping was insane

[solid hinge]

the guns in bfv really arent that hard to use

[midnight nimbus]

ofc BFV movement is better when you compare it to 1

they both have awful movement, V is just less awful

[dense bone]

a lot of games must have awful movement

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, that's unfortunately been a staple of shooters

[warped ferry]

Bf5..... I just can't get into it rly good cause it's so broken partially it makes me quit right away and play bf4

[dense bone]

well good thing you have the option

[midnight nimbus]

CoD4 movement was pretty nice in terms of some of the jumps

and CoD has always had reliable jumpshots

[dense bone]

yea, its a pure arcade shooter

[midnight nimbus]

if shooting didn't slow you down so badly, BO3 movement would've been amazing

[warped ferry]

Yeah but cod has other problems

[midnight nimbus]

MW is the gold standard for military style FPS movement imo

really fast and slick when you want it to be

[warped ferry]

Pew pew down is just not fun at all when everyone onetaps u no matter what

[dense bone]

latest mw or the first mw?

[midnight nimbus]

latest one

[warped ferry]

I don't liked the beta tbh

[dense bone]

i dont remember being impressed with the movement of it

[midnight nimbus]

best movement in a grounded shooter imo

[dense bone]

it felt weighty but smooth which is nice

[midnight nimbus]

especially when you could work the slides and jumps

[dense bone]

but outside of that felt pretty standard

basically take cod and make it less floaty

[warped ferry]

Imo this mw is just a polished old one

[midnight nimbus]

it's pretty different in terms of a ton of mechanics

it implemented so many things I've wanted in BF for awhile

[warped ferry]

Just like bf5 is a modified bf1 instead of something new and potentially good

[midnight nimbus]

I wish BFV were a modified BF1

maybe performance would've actually been decent

[warped ferry]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

BFV is a huge overhaul in mechanics

[sonic moss]

Well just be lucky that BFV is in a playable condition

[gusty cove]

Are medic guns in bfv op?

[warped ferry]

Bf1 runs perfectly on 210 FPS on ultra not like bf5

[royal gull]

BF1 was trash though

[sonic moss]

How dare you say BF1 was trash

[warped ferry]

Bf1 was different but not trash

[gray saffron]

no, smgs are strong at close range as they should be, but their effectiveness gets worse over range @gusty cove

[dense bone]

im a broken record, but bf1 suffered too many stupid game design decisions

[gusty cove]

Aight

[warped ferry]

I had some very great times in bf1 regarding the gameplay and overall enjoyment

[dense bone]

elites, behemoths, sweet spots, vehicles, nade spam

all that shit was dumb or in certain states to where it was dumb

[warped ferry]

Ok I agree with the elites

[midnight nimbus]

uhhhhhh did you play BF3 or 4

BF1 really wasn't that high in explosive spam

[warped ferry]

But the sweet spot as example is a real thing too just a little bit different

[midnight nimbus]

you had an entire 2 or 3 maps where it was annoying

[dense bone]

thats only 1 aspect of my complaints

[midnight nimbus]

elites and behemoths are dumb

[dense bone]

and i didnt like nades in bf3 or 4

[wild kayak]

Am I the only one who thinks that camping is a good, viable strategy?

[midnight nimbus]

but not a problem if you don't play shit modes

[echo turtle]

Elites could be put down easily

[wild kayak]

If you die to a camper, that means you didn't check your surroundings

But rushed on like a CoDkid

[royal gull]

WW1 was just a bad setting

[midnight nimbus]

and BF1 vehicles sucked

[royal gull]

They had to add so much ahistorical crap to even make it playable

[warped ferry]

Conquest was rarely explosive spammed exept bunker rushes or so

[midnight nimbus]

actually some of the planes were decently done

but the tanks sucked

[dense bone]

@wild kayak a lot of factors into that conversation

[warped ferry]

Yes and no

The ft17 was made good imo

[dense bone]

but in general camping is boring, cheesy, but effective in certain conditions

[midnight nimbus]

I like sweet spot, but MW definitely did sniper rifles pretty much how I'd like to see them in BF

[dense bone]

OHK snipers?

[gray saffron]

how do mw do sniper rifles?

[midnight nimbus]

in a game where everything can kill at least decently fast and everything is designed around bodyshots

yeah OHK sniper rifles are great

[warped ferry]

Physical seen a bullet from every rifle should onehit close and injure very hard on medium distance when hitting the body

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 is one of like three BF games where sniping doesn't suck

[wild kayak]

If BF1 was historically accurate, Saint-Chamond would get stuck every minute

[dense bone]

cod is a different game than bf

to put snipers at general ohk would be dumb

youd be effective at basically every range

[warped ferry]

Still snipers in Bf5 are weak af

[dense bone]

and if youre a decent sniper theres no reason to play asolutely anytihng else

[royal gull]

Good

[midnight nimbus]

and BF1 gave you plenty of feedback to let you know you'll get one shotted

[royal gull]

Sniping should be a high risk low reward activity

[warped ferry]

55 dmg Body Kit is a joke

[midnight nimbus]

I would've made ADS time even slower, personally

[royal gull]

The scouting portion of the class should be the focus

[dense bone]

we dont need everything to be viable for every situation

[warped ferry]

Sniping might be annoying yeah ok but when a sniper hits you on 50m in the chest and you get more or less just 50 dmg it's a fcking joke to me

[midnight nimbus]

making an entire weapon class a meme is terrible

[echo turtle]

The bullet loses momentum?

[warped ferry]

At least make it like 70-85 dmg like on bf4

[torn frigate]

Drunk me > sober me

kdr 9.5 vs 1.something

[midnight nimbus]

and as terrible as BF1 vehicles are, BFV vehicle design is a gigantic joke

[warped ferry]

Even with momentum loss a sniper can onetap on 250 m

And yes the vehicles are fcked up as hard as they could

[dense bone]

key to balance isnt to go from one extreme to another

just because sniping is a meme now doesnt mean you make it a quickscope, effective at all range, decent sniper effective monster in general

[royal gull]

Rush was fun when both teams had tanks and you could destroy an M-Comm with explosives or dropping a building on it

Now, not so much.

[midnight nimbus]

and that's where MW succeeded

[echo turtle]

Turn the game into sniper elite

[warped ferry]

I did not ask for a oneshot everything I asked for reasonable damage output

[midnight nimbus]

killed quickscoping

[dense bone]

then play MW

[midnight nimbus]

but allowed snipers to actually be good at sniping

[echo turtle]

Where if you were to pop someone in the heart it would kill them

[dense bone]

ads speed is slower

if 2 people saw eachother at same time sniper will likely lose, thats it

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, sufficiently poor mobility is sufficient to stop OHK rifles from being cheese cannons

[solid hinge]

no bolt in bfv is 55 damage anymore

krag has 60 now

[midnight nimbus]

they actually have to not pick head on fights

[solid hinge]

60 baby unf

[warped ferry]

Yeah but this whole thing just shows one thing the Def's have exactly 0 clue about ballistics and firearm physics

[midnight nimbus]

DICE does it fine

[warped ferry]

Not rly

[midnight nimbus]

the drag mechanic works rly well

[dense bone]

the thing is, devs are making games, not bullet simulators

[midnight nimbus]

and you can forgo realism where you see fit

[warped ferry]

.338 magnum ? No it can't pass a 2 mm steel plate on 10m

In rl this thing goes through it like air

[fleet bloom]

OHK snipers would be so stupid, it is already a pain in the ass getting killed by somebody sitting in a bush with a AT rifle and they shoot real slow, would turn the game into a boring slow paced game if all bolt rifles did that

[warped ferry]

I already shot a 338 this thing kicks in and the only rifle in game that also does is a 12.7 mm or .50 anti materiell rifle so wtf went wrong there

[fleet bloom]

its a videogame bud

[hybrid dock]

its called game balance

go play arma

[midnight nimbus]

that's more a function of maps and modes being camp friendly than anything