#battlefield-legacy-titles
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even though they don't deserve more choice
One TD and one AA?
They really need the transport spawning back
That was such a bad change they made in BF1
Transports should be quite a common sight like in BF4
transports need instant exit again
Now they’re extremely rare
and they need to actually be fast
it takes way too long to get out of vehicles
cus by the time you get out
you're dead and gone
Universal carrier needs to be some sort of actual infantry killer instead of a transport
yeah they need actual decent weaponry
to defend themselves from infy
driver controlled too
the gunner position on the valentine is good af
if your tanker doesnt bounce around every 3 seconds
Maybe the coaxial and that’s it
nah
I thought you meant all the turrets
nah driver needs agency over all primary weapon systems
especially on transports
make it where they can control overly powerful weapons
no one wants to play taxi driver
that they can just obliterate half the map
Tbf you should get points for it holy shit that’d be funny
imagine playing infantry where you can move and you have to rely on a random to shoot for you
it would suck
I genuinely think the bots in B1944 are about as competent as a lot of BFV players
4-5 good players
even on PC
i think <= 50% of players in any given lobby are potato as fuck
Bros and toes, i just got bfv for pc (ik im late) and am wondering what are the best video settings for good performance but not looking like garbage with around 144Fps for the refresh rate SPECS: GTX 107ti and a i5 9600K + 16gb ram (sorry if its in wrong channel)
alright fam
Do you think those who bought BFV will get a discount for the next battlefield game?
nah lol
Only thing you'll get is a dogtag
EA have given discounts to players who bought games that have failed in the past.
hhaahahahah
hyyahahahahhahahaha
gbro you the funniest person ive ever seen
🤡
foam helmet having mother fucker leave this region bum
Does anyone play on xbox 1?
company coin gain is harsh
did you put salt on him
He SAW my corpse, Saw those fL tags and he didnt revive me.
Lol I just killed one guy like six times in a row
Maybe .. just maybe.. if your head keeps getting blown off when you peek out of this window you stop going back like after 3 times?!
such determination
I couldn’t believe it.. he was determined to kill me from that very same spot.. didn’t even bother to move to the next window
And those metro windows overlooking the railroad are death traps anyway
adding metro was the worst decision that EA has made in a while
I can’t wait for rush there.. with lower player count it really isn’t that bad
Maybe limit players for breakthrough to 48.. I dunno how you’d fit that in the rotation though
@static forge hahahahahahhahahahahahahah
hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha
yeah fuck the map
Two top weapons
one of the most poorly designed maps in the history of fps
It should be a 20v20 map
@prime pine honestly that would probably make it 10x better
The custom servers would help it a lot
32v32 is OK but honestly. 20v20 on meat grinders is just the right amount.
thing about a meat grinder is that theres always at least one time getting grinded
which makes it not fun for 50% of players
thats literally every NA server on pc
because no balance
not a map issue lmfao
if youre on the team winning youll steam roll as offence too
me when i die on a map dice created
WORST THING IN FPS!!!!
DICE YEOU FUCKING SUUUUUUUUUCK!
wait has breakthrough been 600 tickets before
no
that’s a lot
300 at most I think
the map is heavily biased towards defence
ok
yes its breakththrough
As defender
very observant
I’ve played like 30 games
I may of accidentally road killed someone when exiting from a strafe when i fucked up
because its too much of a bias
no one said theres anything wrong with a defence bias
not that hard to understand mate
bruh
Hamada had the highest at 500 tickets before underground
didn’t know that since I never played that map
are you reading at all or just going off the first few words
Only once or twice
you came in
said its the worst map in all fps
then said your issue is defense bias
???
compare underground and any other map on breakthrough
dang it i have all the battlefields except 5
I just think hes just blind in general
Imagine looking at Underground and saying "this is fine"
🤡
no sane person would do that
im consistently top of the team as medic with my squad
Good for you
Im playing support and or assault on underground
and have played since the underground op came out
You want a sticker for that
and can say even when its steam roll
I cant medic
I run out of ammo anyways
quit crying
I've got some gold star stickers for you mr best medic
does he realize that this doesnt help his argument
lmao
The funneling can be quite bad
Ok
Compared to bf3... Its no different. But however i have found a way to break through and flank.
On breakthrough
Theres a far right flank, the area that floods. You can smoke up and for better results, bayonet charge in to there cause you need as much speed as you need
in the metro
Smoke up the entrance that is
Or outside
hmm I’ll need to bring my whole team with me
or else my self won’t do shit
Since it’s impossible for me to play on 30 FPS
You may encounter a lot more at occasions
also, on other breakthrough maps, usually one "breakthrough" of the enemy lines gets all sectors
thats not the case in underground
Ive been very lucky to find one. And its just enough for the bayonet charge.
so besides the floor getting wet sometimes is there any major difference from metro
the map doesn’t feel like metro for me
More flanks but the funneling is still a thing
But it’s a fun map
I think the map is bugged
sometimes I get annoyed that there is many flanks
i like the map
A personal issue is that it really does burn me out
literally I get flanked 99% of the times
Theres a section of the map that you can swim underwater but it leads to a dead end
Oh and mmgs galore
where
who said it was
didnt say ya did
where are you getting these conclusions from
I think the map would be better if they removed the mmg structures on B
and made people who wanted to mmg not have invulnerability
Nah if they just reduce the ticket and fix some performance issue
reduce the ticket?
on a map already so defender sided?
so my game glitched and it kept playing the audio cue of me leveling up
not really IMO
600 is fine
you need a lot since metro is a funnel and bottleneck a lot of the time
600 is p good
nOt ReAlLy ImO
get off my dick
so I'm sitting in the Company Tab with the game constantly giving these "BONG" noises telling me that I've leveled up, like, 40 things and I'm scared
nobody will ever be on it
just keep playing the map mr top medic
"THE BONGS! THEY WONT STOP! HELP MEEEEE -RANK UP-"
@little raptor restart game
you're not a stacker are you?
a what
off my dick x3
Lmao
literally dude get off my cock
oFf mY DiCk
"sobs The ranks... the wont stop comiiii-iing ;A; -RANK UP-"
so hardcore
what is ur problem weewee jeez
every time i type you say some shit someone that doesnt get a bag would say
mans upset
ask flavy to drop the toxicity
Hes just saying shit that doesnt matter
and I'll stop doing the mocking meme
yeah hes being toxic for the sake of being toxic
Lil wayne
ur being toxic weewee
tunechi
ok
Lil uzi
imagine calling someone who says GOMD 4 times not toxic
Lil peep
But calling the person that mocks him toxic
what
Lil playboi carti
there he goes again
whats your issue
maybe he should stop calling people foam heads
joseph honest question why are you defending him
Oh that was like... minutes after I left for work... nevermind
!
cuz u guys targetin him
harassing is not what this is
everytime i type
What is going on here?
were having an argument
and hes saying get off my dick 5x
@icy sluice I’m late I know but man congratz mod I didn’t know lmaoooo I’m so late
its spastic
spastic
repeating what he said is not having an argument
thats offensive to me
stop
see how that works
huh
now can we have a civilized discsussion without you calling someone a foam head
can you please leave me alone
So the original discussion was breakthrough having defense bias... am I correct?
honestly just let Auf check the history
yea
Probably
I'm quite puzzled rn
hes just trying to flex his pro medic skills
ok
I think I'm done here
You did do that whole mocking text thing... like a lot.
^
hes free to block me if he wants
He can but you're not free to do stuff like that to whoever you want.
Auf was he not being toxic too?
thank you auf
lol
lmao
haha balanced gameplay
airborne
spawn
what would i call it
You can just drop wherever
they camp the explosives
so has anyone heard anything more on this "Grand Battlefield" gamemode that was datamined
airborne sniper
cause that sounds exciting
can we stop relying on datamines
I haven't looked at leaks in a while
like jfc
I want a Quickplay option that just cycles through every gamemode
i want to keep updates a surprise
Honestly that can work
i haven't heard anything about it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
but my hopes are, that DICE is developing a gamemode shuffler
You use /shrug at the beginning, not at the end
DONT YOU LOOK AT ME
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Tox I think you ment cheese and rice
Beans and Fries
Look at me when i stare at you!
Lol works
but yeah, i want a game mode shuffler
I know BF has always been 32vs32, but BFV does have some good 16v16 modes
We'll be getting rush this thursday
it'd be sweet if we got a gamemode that dynamically cycled between those, like how Operations cycled between gamemodes in BF1
Hello!
Everyones so lucky to play it, cause ill be moving. 
hi joseph
enjoy ur stay pls
2 JOES
Hey jos
Joe mama
How do I keep my tank from getting blown up?
joe mama
@normal marsh Don't take damage
I feel like there's so much anti-tank stuff in bfv.
I should probably just stay further away from the enemies.
But I like to get up close and try to capture objectives in my tank.
Damn it wrong reaction
Were tanks blown up so easily in real life?
people think tanks are supposed to suicide the flag
lol
no
that's what infantry is for
Tanks are mid range
If the ammo was hit, then yes, the tank would blow/burn out (irl)
Just git gud with aim
How do you guys like the Metro map?
its amazing
agree
I like that there are no vehicles.
not gonna lie it sucks
You can't just solo as a tank... or as an infantry for that matter
Operation Underground takes some time to learn.
Well usually I have 1 or 2 other teammates in the tank.
nah you can solo as a tank
Objective Able is really fun to fight in because you can really abuse the ledge grabbing and rolling feature
it's not very hard
It all depends on amount of soldiers and the area really
If it's like objective Echo on Arras, you're fucked
Do people actually give a shit about kd in bfv?
I only care if I see a teammate who's like 4-18 k/d
And at the bottom of the scoreboard.
I personally don't care but it's nice to feel like I've performed well
Yes same if I did I wouldn't likely have a heart attack
It's also cool to see people who get like 35 kills and die 5 times.
Like yay I'm getting carried.
same
bc if you're dying a lot, the spawn timers are so slow
I'm not gonna say o didn't try though 
that you're spending a lot of time not playing
dying can put you out of the action for up to a minute
which sucks
I just bought battlefield 4 premium edition for $2
Well if you have a high kd it only takes one game to f it up
And that can happen just because of lag
yeah, one evening of playing Operation Underground tanked my K/D by like 0.03
bc performance is so shitty it's just laggy all the time
and i can't fucking hit anything on that map
I don't have problems with performance on Xbox.
See my point entirely
i feel like there is a chance i would kinda enjoy the map if it didn't perform like pure shit
But I do have the more expensive Xbox One.
I have a regular Xbox One and I don't get any stutters or anything
not to mention that BFV mouse input in general feels kinda shitty compared to other games
Hows the 4k lol
I play on a 1080p tv or a 1440p monitor.
I was thinking about hooking up my keyboard and mouse to Battlefield V to see if it can feel good in a multiplayer environment but to try and balance it just use shitty weapons
Like just a pistol
Don't have 4k yet.
BFV is relatively high input lag for an FPS game already
Right
and inconsistent performance makes it worse
it's amazing how good mouse input can feel on a really non-intensive game where you get insane framerate
I don't have that issue. What platform are you on?
your aim feels godmode
I have a 0.96 kd and in another game I have a 2.67 so it depends how you want it
Battlefield I'm ass lol
I did use Keyboard and Mouse on CoD WWII and I got it to work... I did it on Battlefield V but just War Stories and Combined Arms
I just bomb shit that's what I live for
I'm mediocre with recon
nvm we just took the sector
Damn man I never used PC before only my mothers and I never played any real games on it
Does anyone here enjoy camping as much as I do?
imagine enjoying camping
I want to buy a smaller tent and go camping by myself.
i just shot down a fighter in a tiger
I might invite some friends if I had any.
I love camping though. I live in Washington and the camping here is great.
It's just satisfying:)
Joseph stick to the script
This isn't general my dude lol
haha
Big brain move lol
What would be a good third squad call-in reinforcement on Operation Underground?
Right now, we amass so many points but we don't really use them all because the two options require low points, and they're useless in Underground Conquest B.
Mine cart
I would like to see an elite call-in myself.
Anyone having input issues on BFV recently?
Why does that guy have 3 eggplants?
Mad Jack, flamethrower, raider...
I don't need elite call-ins. I am the elite.
Imagine flamethrowers on underground
Two of which can't really be done in game now
squad reinforcement: you can call in a bombardment that floods alley on your command and anyone that drowns in it counts as a kill for you :3
fix plane spawning
Like a switch you turn but it costs your squad leader X points?
yeah basically
cus when i spawn in a plane
sometimes it takes so long
it doesnt let me in the game
and my respawn broke
haha
so i had to leave the game
you mean when you're supposed to spawn in the plane but instead you just see a blank map overview? i usually just press the button to steer to plane down (as it is usually spawned, but forgot to place your camera in the plane) and when it crashes you, you die and can respawn again.
yes
but it didnt let me respawn
it just stuck to the ground
saying "ACCIDENT"
and you cant control it
when your camera's not in the plane
M1907 is op on underground
all about the stg 1-5
h
when a recon tries to repair me
it gives me happiness
cus i know they're trying
and thats all that matters
😔
😫
Ok
night time maps when
When I turn my brightness to 100%
Imagine visibility in a night map 
3-1 as k-d?
Breakthrough objective A is such bullshit on Underground
Left side is easy if you push as a team. But middle and right are hard af
MGs and snipers everywhere
You can get some nice flanks on the people in the room below
And when we go to the tunnels i go to the left and build the Mg there and spray the door
So many people just walk on the line of fire
The left sides truck has some weird hit boxes on it. I killed like 5 people with an MG 
add a squad reinforcement for a breaching charge or something
it's getting progressively more annoying that only assault has good explosives
Support Also.
ok
The Medic needs an explosive to replace the smoke grenade
A good one
Not just the bouncing betty
Frag?
Well they kinda does, Tromboncino has the side Grenade launcher.
But all classes need more gadgets.
Does the at grenade even do anything to infantry anymore?
frag grenade launcher for medic
as it should be
have toggle firemode to select between frag and smoke
I bet you prone camp lmao
Ikr it's so cool
Someone just walks by and they don't see you
And you blast em
Free kill
😩
Sorry for flexing my natural ability to play First Person Shooters on you
lmao
@solid hinge bf1?
then you're fine
Rest mode it is
Keep it deleted
hope you have fast internet xd
I bet you uninstall and reinstall read dead 2 all the time
must bust fat nuts from it
My entire wall is white for a reason
wait you're saying your controller was actually black? D:
nut
😦
Anyone playing bf4
#lfg-xbox #lfg-pc #lfg-playstation if you're looking for people to squad up with ;3
nah fuck that game
?
BF4 is trash @arctic dew
Why ?
i shot a bomber that was taking off at G on Hamada
@teal compass I do that all the time
I put dynamite on the runway
And when he spawns he goes boom
😕
Can’t fun
man, you know what would be the best Elite trailer they ever do?
American squad is running around Europe in like, France or something, and then a BIG electrical explosions happens behind them
they check the smoke, and some guy in a yellow jack puts his hands up
"Alright... lemme assure you folks, that I'm not a Nazi..."
--NEW ELITE: Bj Blazkowicz--
that's just stupid
and dice would never mention anything to do with nazis in the game
They mention a swastika
In the afrika corps grand op
nope
No, in the text
@little raptor its never mentioned
Bandit
Not sure if it is the Africa op
he is just trolling
chill
Nah I’m pretty sure it is
proof
Probably, or I’m just thinking of something else. Probably something else
iron cross isnt a swastika
I know the difference
i was gonna say, DICE has been pretty explicit about not wanting the Swastika anywhere in their game, so I'd be surprised if its already been in the game for ages lol
big no
A lil more ww2
get that Wehraboo shit outta here
no I'm serious
I'm serious too
I dont think you knew this but
Tbh, using the iron cross as a nazi symbol demonises it
there were nazis in ww2 😳
You don't need the Swastika. Iron Cross is more than enough to get the point across
but nah, people really want their nazi symbols on their playable characters ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@little raptor no it doesn't, the iron cross isn't even nazi, it's been a military medal before ww1
people are so soft
yeah, im pretty sure anyone could take a glance at it and realize "oh they're Nazi's"
you know whos softer?
If you really don't want swastikas in a ww2 game why did you buy a ww2 game?
people who're upset its not in the game 
the "people are soft" argument is always the dumbest
"lol everyones offended"
"WTF WHY ISNT THE SWASTIKA IN THE GAME"
Battlefield should just stick to its fun gameplay, realism and fun aren’t really great together
Unless
Nope
Verdun on xbox is fun and realistic
nazis weren't in ww2.
big if true
@solid hinge I am thinking of buying that game, but is the playerbase healthy?
I heard of this game ,but we should probably stay on topic
@little raptor please shut up
or well.. I aint a mod, do whatever yall want ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@whole knoll haven’t played it in a while
is anybody able to play battlefield 1?
NO
wat
BATTLEFIELD IS DEAD 🦀
are like the servers down?
is just no one playing
yeah
damn that fuckin sucks actually
battlefield is fuckin dead mates 🦀
why doesn't this server have the dancing crab gif as an emote
@teal compass shut up gamer
@whole knoll you wanna fight
does that mean i have to buy battlefield 5
@whole knoll DMs
damn
@stone haven do it, BFV is like, the best gunplay out of all the games
hmm
the two new maps are sick
ive been contemplating
me and @whole knoll DMed at literally the same time
its a live service game, which means you'll get all the DLC for free
I'd say just get it since lots of new stuff is on the horizon
BFV is a scam
You can probably get it on offer too
hm
Due to its joke of a launch
cuz i wanna play bf1 but apparently no ones playing it anymore
and id wanna get it on pc
@stone haven bruh
@stone haven got a console? PS4 or Xbox?
ps4
IS that where you have BF1?
@stone haven go to server browser, and fix your slots
i have bf1 on ps4 and pc
oh odd... from what I know at Peak Hours, BF1's usually living
but I guess I'm wrong lol
@stone havenjust DM me
aight
god, Gamers...
If you buy battlefield v when it's on sale for $25 you won't regret it 😉
it's pretty good considering Chapter 5 is on the Horizon
It should be $5 like bf4
It's also got like, way more guns than BF1
@little raptor no it does not
How much was BF4 1 year after release with all of the DLC?

@autumn nest I bet you have joe
A cup of joe yes
A cup of JOE MAMA!!!!
Lol
Not funny, didnt laugh.
shut up
No u

yeet
Yeeted
Yeet or be yeeted
ban above
Imagine if I did ban @ everyone, would I die?
@every1
when you literally get away from enemies trying to sneak past and you then get shot by a guy who should not of been able to kill you when you were 2m around the safe corner
Welcome to battlefield
Imagine playing bfv 
why iagine it when i am actually playing it
Could not be me
When did you last play?
Well I installed it again when underground came out player like 3 rounds and uninstalled it again
Xbox didn't buy it for pc
Ah ok
IS IT BAD THAT I EAT FOOD?!?!?!
I feel like it is overall a better gameplay experience on console than PC
Debatable
Because PC has a metric shit tonne of bugs (I hear) and also has hackers
^
considering the hackers and the xbox bugs, ps4 is probably the most stable way to play is
I don't really experience any bugs, I'm lucky.
I tried player bf4 on pc again yesterday and oh boy
which is a shame considering the massive fps drops I get
I don't get why people make it such a big deal what platform someone plays on
No no
It doesn't matter to me, I just look at what delivers the best experience.
If Xbox One X is the most powerful console on the market, then so be it.
I just look at what my friends play
Fair enough
And halo is just op
The next Halo is going to be on PC
And xbox
Microsoft is really pushing to join the gaming market on PC
I've played every halo on Xbox so I'll stick with that
just cut through that team on breakthrough like a laser sword through butter
Halo kinda meh now imo. was great back in the day but now I demand more from a game.
don't get me wrong, good for nostalgia and all
The ads system is fine lore wise but gameplay wise it just doesn't fit
Ads doesn't make you more accurate tho
Or extending it
which, Halo or Battlefield?
Halo
Halo
fair
And battlefield to some extend
thing is though whena game series moves too far away from its core in terms of extending it, it never really works out that smoothly in terms of what the game is good at
The gameplay feels fluid don't get me wrong but I don't feel right playing halo 5
its like CoD doing groundwar and Battlefield doing squad conquest
neither of which are great examples of what the games are good at
I've only ever cared about the story in halo
Also Locke attempting to assassinate arbiter pissed me off
Tfw got booted mid game
Did anyone else’s game just die?
Can’t connect to ea servers
Might be down rn
Reports on down detector are coming in
Hello
Hi
It be like that sometimes you know
!rank
Damn
congratulations
thanks
my hopes are, sometime during the pacific
hey.
no
bipod or improved aim
no
Improved aim every time
I don't like how the bipod looks and it's like, how long are you going to be prone as assault
HEY BATTLEFIELDERS
Hey fielders
Bipod
Barrel bedding on a semi auto is effectively useless
The thing is already mad accurate
Bipod makes it look cooler
Style points
Barrel bedding is super good for automatic guns but feels like it does nothing for semi auto stuff
Mhh
Like if its gonna be effectively useless either way you may as well pick the one that makes the gun look even chunkier
tf made dice think metro would be a good map to add to bf5?
tbh idont care if its a good map to add in this game i just want maps
that makes no sense, its free
No dlcs
theyre charging for weapons? that doesnt sound right bruh
I mean you can pay to unlock weapons
Like every previous battlefield, or you could just play the game

that op

ea already does that just by existing ahhahahh
this is for sure the best battlefield tho
the only things they fucked up about it are no custom servers and that dumb weekly gametype/map rotation thing
and how you cant pick assignments in game
idek what youre talkin about anymore
i'll rather just focus on the gameplay aspects and give feedback on that instead of analyzing and suggesting business tactics and ideas ;3
we don't take opinions from default pfps 😳
unless you're into finance and business kind of stuff, then go at it lol
absolutely destroyed @teal compass
yes haha
lmao holy fuck what is wrong with this map
join a team at 500 tickets attacking side BT underground and theyre being literally spawn camped
at every exit lmao
bruh
like...theyre 4-6 people down i guess and that means the germans can 100% lock down the team
good fucking map design 
fucking idiocy i swear....oh well i finished off the remaining 500 points i needed for resupplies and we were down to 300 tickets so i just left the game
you talkin' about underground?
the flanking routes only exist once you break the choke points
and if you can break the choke points you'll win
but good fucking luck
yes the first 2 maps i joined on conq were one sided stomp fests, joined at the end, third game was on BT and we instantly lost A because half my team wasnt loaded and the enemy just walks onto the point and gets it
then...i didnt play for 2 days, next conq match i get put on a team thats spawn camping them at A because all you have to do is camp 3 tunnels apparently 
so we won that shit by like 600 points...now today i try another BT map and same shit applies
its a trash map
Breakthrough has a real problem with spawning the attackers closer to the point than the defenders
i was literally spawning at the main spawn point because i didnt have squad mates and being shot by the enemy before i could move 
and then i love the bug half the time i go and spawn at one of the 2 main spawns that never move "sorry your spawn point is no longer available" uhhhh
oh well perhaps tomorrow i can finish off the 3500 damage assignment faster...i might get the gun by Wednesday night 
The gun is nice
ill unlock it then stop playing again..unless the next reward is another gun 
really it is a skin next week? 
i didnt even bother looking to see if there was a scroll thingy at the bottom
Rainbow Stug skin
how flamboyant
If only it was on a good tank..
stug iv is my most used tank 😦 it's better than a 38t skin xD
Stone age warfare would be fun
it's fast though. and the gunner can look around 360 degrees, which makes your gunner actually useful ;D
I still wish they would make a better rome themed game
It takes a secondary gunner just to equal the level of a normal tank
Too risky!
stug should have a WAY stronger gun in exchange
Like the archer has mad good turret traversal distance AND a better gun AND a machine gun
I dont want it to be a bootleg sturmtiger
Ryse 2 but with good gameplay and a better story. 32 v 32 would be hella fun
But.. it needs something
tfw with all the things they added, BFV is so buggy that BF1 would be a better code base to work off of for a new BF game
dice cant balance 32v32 they couldn't pull off 100v100 lol
netcode is bad enough as it is
also would need like 5Hz networking
the servers and my pc would kill themselves lol
Planetside 2 has a tick rate of like 15 lol
planetside 2 has that tho
100v100 isn't fun. it's just metro chokepoints except on the entire map ;D
"learn from minecraft" lmaooooooo thanks buddy, I'm sure it's that easy
MAG showed that
8 bit battlefield 6 
what if they made a battlefield fortnite
firestorm should have gone f2p at launch
it would have been good if they spent another year making the game
deadlines are deadlines
there was a rumor floating around that this was going to be battlefield 6 and dice wanted to release bad company 3
and they switched them
firestorm gameplay is pretty good imo. i prefer it over pubg or whatever mostly due bfv's gameplay is just superior. but the biggest issue is player count
firestorm feels better then pubg


