battlefield-legacy-titles

[coral fiber]

Pew

[balmy creek]

Just hit headshots

😎

[stoic breach]

If you're hitting headshots

My man

Buy the Breda

[coral fiber]

I also used the mg42

[stoic breach]

For assault

[coral fiber]

But surprisingly i didn't camp

[stoic breach]

I used the Boys AT and didnt camp

[coral fiber]

I just hipfired and kept goin

[stoic breach]

Just tried to saltmine

[balmy creek]

MMGs don't feel very viable if you ask me

[coral fiber]

So fucking fun

They don't

[stoic breach]

MMGs arent viable

They're literally designed for camping

[balmy creek]

You just get sniped

[coral fiber]

I just run, jump, hipfire

[stoic breach]

If you try to play aggressive MMG, you have to fight the game to make it work

[lavish raptor]

not true

[stoic breach]

And if you want to play aggressive MMG, you can literally just use the Lewis Gun

[lavish raptor]

true

[balmy creek]

Bunnyhopping is still suprisingly usable in V

[stoic breach]

Weapon that can't ADS unbipodded, moving while bipodded unscopes you

[coral fiber]

https://xboxclips.com/GETMEMEDONLOL/95fc7251-9c1e-4d76-8d3d-83c4e22199bb/embed

This is how i played with the mg42

[main grove]

Why does everyone say Bad company was the best Battlefields

They look like they play like shite

[balmy creek]

3 if you ask me

[main grove]

It looks so clunky

[balmy creek]

Ever played it? @main grove

[main grove]

Also I can’t find a single video on older battlefields without seeing an anti BFV circlejerk

I played 1 when I was like 9 or 10

I don’t remember what it was like at all

[stoic breach]

@coral fiber Imagine if you could ADS with that

How much better would it be

[coral fiber]

Oh god

[stoic breach]

It would be great

[main grove]

I didn’t really like BF3 or 4 either

[coral fiber]

Oh man that would

[stoic breach]

All you have to do is prefire

[main grove]

I’m generally not a fan of modern

[stoic breach]

Because trying to ADS in a gunfight would get you killed from slow ADS time

I would like that

[coral fiber]

Yeah same

[stoic breach]

Its so dumb, designing weapons for people to stop moving to use effectively

[coral fiber]

Then during that 82 kill game i cleared an obj but killed myself doin it

[stoic breach]

Nice

[solid hinge]

People say mean things to me when i say that bfv will be the best bf game.

:(

[stoic breach]

[main grove]

I know that saying BFV will be the best is kind of ridiculously optimistic

[lavish raptor]

bfv is the worst bf just like bf1 was the worst game just like bf4 was the worst bf just like hardline- wait hardline actually is the worst

[coral fiber]

[balmy creek]

Your opinion is shit, trash and irrelevant @solid hinge

😎

[main grove]

But my love for it’s setting overrides all

[lavish raptor]

also you fat and gay 💯

[balmy creek]

No, i'm thin and straight

[fallow root]

BF 1942 is the true best *not

[lavish raptor]

lies

[coral fiber]

I'm just addicted to bfv 😩

[balmy creek]

🔥

[lavish raptor]

lying is a sin fam 😤

[solid hinge]

Im shaking and crying

[balmy creek]

If i'm gay and fat, you're average and bisexual

[main grove]

For me it’s the gunplay that make BFV for me

[balmy creek]

@Flavyyy#4423

[lavish raptor]

literally nervous break down

you know what

thats fair

💯

[coral fiber]

Aww shit here we go again

[lavish raptor]

me n saltyy making the best trade deal of all time

[main grove]

Customisation is good as well

Not too in depth but better than the fucking clone armies of BF1

[stoic breach]

Thats every game before BFV

[main grove]

Yeah but BF1’s in depth character models made it way more obvious than older ones

[glossy cape]

id prefer clone armies tbh

what happened to "standard issue uniform"

[stoic breach]

Clone armies might lack customisation

But at least you can tell who you were fighting

[solid hinge]

BFV is the best BF game bacause of the vehicle variety

[glossy cape]

the british all look like commandos

[stoic breach]

The person wearing a cloak was always a recon

Meant you could win a gunfight in CQB against him

[main grove]

In that case I do wish that a visual override was in place

[stoic breach]

Crutches meant DMR medic, so you could get killed at midrange by him

[main grove]

For all the people whining about muh uniforms

Though you could exploit it and make every enemy wear double down or some shit

[stoic breach]

I would probably want that on

[main grove]

Maybe an override that is map based

[glossy cape]

in all honesty i dont mind the customization

[stoic breach]

Standard issue locked uniforms so I can tell what fucking class I'm fighting against

[glossy cape]

but if customization becomes the focus of the game it essentially becomes a cod game

[stoic breach]

I've lost fights against assaults because they were wearing a coat, so I assumed they were a recon

[main grove]

In this game class matters little now that every gun has got range

[stoic breach]

Thats a big misconception

SMGs are still shit past 30m, the fact that they can hitmarker doesnt mean anything really

[main grove]

None of my recons wear long cloaks

The German wears veiled threat head, hunter torso and wolf legs

[lavish raptor]

how is that a misconception its not a concept its a fact

[coral fiber]

imagine being sniped by the suomi

[lavish raptor]

yall go by numbers ok

[stoic breach]

Numbers make up the game

[main grove]

My Brit wears phantom Major, Sandman torso and legs

[stoic breach]

Fact is, hitmarkers at 30m with an SMG or kills at 30m with an SAR is an obvious choice

[lavish raptor]

ON SIGHT

[stoic breach]

What does that mean

[main grove]

What I’m saying is it’s best to assume your enemy is dangerous at every range

[lavish raptor]

chop em both down dont judge im joe brown

[main grove]

Rather than assume he’s weak because he wears a long coat

[coral fiber]

Remember pre nerfs Gewher 1-5
God those were the good days of that weapon
I used to snipe people across the map with that thing

[stoic breach]

If someone has a bolt action in SMG range he's objectively weaker than someone with an SMG in SMG range

[main grove]

G 1-5 feels alright for me

I never used it pre nerf

[hallow perch]

smle untouched

[stoic breach]

Thats the distinction that set class outfits can help with

[hallow perch]

bread gun is now the best assault gun

[coral fiber]

Breda

Breda

[stoic breach]

Breda and M1907 yeah

[coral fiber]

Breda

[main grove]

No it’s bread gun

Now

[coral fiber]

Brereeedddsaaaaaaaa

[desert dune]

baguette gun?

[stoic breach]

M1907 for close to mid, Breda for mid to long

[coral fiber]

Yes

[hallow perch]

assault continues to dab on the other classes

[stoic breach]

No other assault guns needed

[main grove]

MAS is the baguette gun

Speaking of I want more French guns

[coral fiber]

The stg44 tho 👌

[stoic breach]

StG44 is generic and overused

[coral fiber]

I 3x scope on it

[stoic breach]

Definitely fun but not the best

[main grove]

Like the MAS-36 bolt action

The MAS-39 SMG

[desert dune]

I've been loyal to my Ribey

Since BF1

[stoic breach]

Why would you want more bolt actions in BFV

[coral fiber]

Ribey is good

[glossy cape]

ribeyrolles shit

[autumn nest]

I love the Ribey

[main grove]

Or maybe the GODAMN CHAUCHAT PLEASE

[stoic breach]

Ribey in BFV is like eh

[glossy cape]

in bf1 it was the good stuff

[stoic breach]

ARs cant magdum as well anymore

[main grove]

BFV ribeye is baller what you on about

[maiden zodiac]

Bf1 orBf5?

[hallow perch]

ribey is an ok gun but there are other guns now

[coral fiber]

The spread of the ribey after the nerfs are bad but not damage

[stoic breach]

But now the Breda exists

[autumn nest]

It's better in BF1

[stoic breach]

Theres no reason to use the Ribey anymore

[main grove]

I can’t think of a single gun that’s better in BF1except bolt actions

[maiden zodiac]

Guys, Bf1 or BfV

[main grove]

Because of spread

[glossy cape]

s2-200 or vgo

[coral fiber]

The breda is somewhat easy to control for me

[stoic breach]

Yeah in BF1 the ribey didnt have "skillful" screenshake recoil

[autumn nest]

BF1 @maiden zodiac

[maiden zodiac]

Yes

Same

[hallow perch]

breda in single shot mode is the new fedorov

[stoic breach]

S2 is far better than VGO

[glossy cape]

bf1 will always be better because its had time for development

give bf5 a few more years

it hasnt even had its first dlc

[jaunty oxide]

Why use breda in single when you can just use a SAR

no horizontal

[autumn nest]

It's a live service so we'll see how it goes

[stoic breach]

Breda in single is fucking stupid

[hallow perch]

because it can also burst fire

[stoic breach]

Why would you ever use Breda with single fire

[main grove]

Maybe all guns are really good and people are just too picky

[hallow perch]

and its easy to use

[coral fiber]

It's so good at single fire bro

[stoic breach]

If you wanna single fire you can use the AgM42

Fuck Breda single fire

[autumn nest]

Lol

[jaunty oxide]

not using burst misses the entire point of the breda

and SARs do semi wayyy better

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[hallow perch]

yea well shit thats dice

[stoic breach]

It can burst up to 50m

[main grove]

Breda single fire just feels like a G 1-5

[stoic breach]

And you wanna use single fire

Like why

[maiden zodiac]

Comment your favourite weapon in Bf1

[autumn nest]

It's really just meant for full auto

[glossy cape]

if it takes 3-4 shots with a semi-auto to kill someone thats a bad sign

fav weapon

from what i remember

[stoic breach]

M1912/p.16 Machinepistol 😩😩😩😩

[coral fiber]

The karabin is nice

[maiden zodiac]

Nice

[autumn nest]

The Obrez was 👌

[maiden zodiac]

I have it

[stoic breach]

I use Obrez with General Liu and Autoloading 8.35

Beast

[glossy cape]

i actually liked the smle

[autumn nest]

Barley used any other secondary besides it

[main grove]

M1917 Enfield

[coral fiber]

Cei regotti for the medic class 👌👌👌

[maiden zodiac]

You know what is good

[maiden zodiac]

TheVetterli

[hallow perch]

nothing wrong with the g43 its my favorite assault gun but the breda is so dumb at what it does

[autumn nest]

Nice

[coral fiber]

Nice

[main grove]

Vetterli carbine was great

[maiden zodiac]

Yeah

[glossy cape]

smle was good

good scout weapon

[stoic breach]

Vetterli was such a good gun

[maiden zodiac]

I love the sweets pot range

[stoic breach]

20m sweetspot

[maiden zodiac]

Yeah

[stoic breach]

The absolute aggressive sniper

[maiden zodiac]

Hmm

[main grove]

I really wish they didn’t fuck over bolt action going into BFV

[desert dune]

I'll never forget the sound the martini-henry made

[maiden zodiac]

Ain't it

[hallow perch]

arisaka was better because it didn't have the 440m/s velocity

[main grove]

M1917 Enfield was my favourite rifle long range

[stoic breach]

Vetterli was just super niche

M1917 was superb as well

[maiden zodiac]

You know the Russian 1895

[stoic breach]

M1903 Experimental after buff 😩

[main grove]

Apparently the M1917 Enfield is meant to return in BF5

[stoic breach]

3BTK under 10m, 4BTK normally

Plus bolt action

That was amazing

[main grove]

As well as the maschinenpistole

[hallow perch]

soontm

[main grove]

Holy shit there’s so many weapons they’ve already made

[maiden zodiac]

I just wish Dice went back to bf1 to release a couple bug fixes or new weapons maybe, do you guys agree?

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[glossy cape]

no

[main grove]

But not released

[hallow perch]

still no chauchat

[desert dune]

Maschinenpistole was hella fun to use

[coral fiber]

Yeah

[crystal forge]

i need new skins but i am not spending money on stupid in game currency

[stoic breach]

Longer support for BF1

[main grove]

Like so many weapons ready to go

But they won’t let them

[glossy cape]

they havent even released the first dlc for bf5

just no

terrible idea

[maiden zodiac]

Anyone got the Peacekeeper here?

[balmy creek]

@crystal forge You don't need them

[coral fiber]

Yes

[balmy creek]

You want them

[desert dune]

I doo @maiden zodiac

[crystal forge]

yes but you cant get decent ones

oh damn u boffin

[desert dune]

Took a week for me to complete the dog tags and skin

[crystal forge]

keep it shut yes i do need them

[coral fiber]

^^^

[maiden zodiac]

Oof

[crystal forge]

need

[hallow perch]

watch dice drop a huge trailer for the chauchat when its dropped

[coral fiber]

Same Wilhelm

[desert dune]

The escalation skin was the hardest for me

[main grove]

Chapter 5 best be new weapon after new weapon after new weapon

[maiden zodiac]

Yeah

[coral fiber]

Yeah

[main grove]

Chapter 4 rewards were so awful

[desert dune]

God listening to that tower was abnormally difficult in Albion

[coral fiber]

Duuudee yes

[balmy creek]

Chapter rewards? @main grove

[maiden zodiac]

Comment your favourite bf1 map

[desert dune]

or was it in a different map, I can't remember

[main grove]

Chapter 4 rewards were all just crap like skins and knives

No M2 carbine

No welrod

[balmy creek]

What are Chapter rewards?

lul

[coral fiber]

And then there were different randoms that came and destroyed the tower @desert dune

[main grove]

No Smith and Wesson revolver

[desert dune]

@coral fiber I bought a server to do my hunting

then kicked any randoms out

[coral fiber]

Smart

[balmy creek]

[maiden zodiac]

Bf1 was and still is a good game in my heart

[desert dune]

It's got a special place in my heart

[maiden zodiac]

Yeah

[autumn nest]

To me as well

[coral fiber]

Such a good game

[balmy creek]

Never liked BF1 lul

[desert dune]

I'm not caught up with BFV at all

[maiden zodiac]

Shame BfV didn't receive so much love

[autumn nest]

Yeah just not the same

[desert dune]

The last gun I was somewhat good with is the Turner SMLE

I don't even know if that gun is still good

[maiden zodiac]

But overall bf1 will always be my favourite game

[coral fiber]

It is

It's good but I've never liked it

[desert dune]

Operation Metro left a sour taste in my mouth, but only because I'm consistently placed in the losing side

[coral fiber]

Oof

[maiden zodiac]

Dice adding an update to bf1 would be to good to be true

[desert dune]

But I think it's a good map if everyone did tried their hardest

[autumn nest]

Yeah

[coral fiber]

I've been changing the pace of the games in underground

Cuz i love flanking

[autumn nest]

I haven't won a match on Metro yet

[balmy creek]

BF3 is the best BF game. Change my mind.

[autumn nest]

Harder than other maps for some reason

[balmy creek]

[desert dune]

It's your opinion and I respect it

[coral fiber]

Wait new metro or old metro

[maiden zodiac]

Anyone realised the reload bug for bf1 where you do an empty reload and it misses one bullet out despite the full magazine

[autumn nest]

Hardline is the most underated

[stoic breach]

First sector of Op Underground is just MMGs and Lewis Guns lul

[main grove]

I wasn’t old enough for BF3 and 4

[balmy creek]

Hardline was cool imo

[main grove]

I was like 12 when they came out

[stoic breach]

Yeah same

[desert dune]

Idk man I'm usually mauled by medics in Underground

[coral fiber]

@stoic breach breakthrough on underground is pure ass
Conquest is where it's at 👌

[stoic breach]

I played alot of BF4 on xbox 360 when I was 15

Conquest is like eh

Its alright

[maiden zodiac]

I'm playstation

[lavish raptor]

me and archer keep playing together

[stoic breach]

At least theres only 3 flags

[autumn nest]

The maps on 4 were so enormous

[lavish raptor]

we just kinda find each other every 5 mins lol

[coral fiber]

I fucking love underground on conquest
The flanks oh man

[stoic breach]

Technically you cant flank when theres no frontline

[lavish raptor]

selb is good but zh is superior

rsc is the worst gun in the game

[stoic breach]

Lol

[lavish raptor]

imagine using a 5 round slow 3 round kill gun

[stoic breach]

Not its not

[lavish raptor]

got it to level 10 last night

terrible gun

[stoic breach]

It doesnt take 3 rounds

[lavish raptor]

it does

at range

[stoic breach]

You probably just suck with it

Its not a ranged weapon

[main grove]

Holy shit the last PS2 game ever made was PES 2014

[stoic breach]

Its midrange

2BTK midrange

[balmy creek]

Am i the only one that likes to use weapons that the factions themselves used just to feel immersed?

[coral fiber]

No

[lavish raptor]

youre wrong

its horrible

[autumn nest]

I do that too

[stoic breach]

I can literally pull up the stats and show you

Its not 3BTK

[desert dune]

Sometimes... not often

[maiden zodiac]

Anyone here old enough to have played battlefield Vietnam?

[fallow root]

Smoke need nerf

[balmy creek]

The BC DLC?

[maiden zodiac]

It was just so long ago man

[stoic breach]

Its 2BTK up to like 50m and then its 3BTK past that

Why you would actually want to snipe that far with the RSC is beyond me

[lavish raptor]

aka garbage for recon

[fallow root]

I have Vietnam installed

[maiden zodiac]

You still have it?

[stoic breach]

Recon isnt just camping at the back of the map, you know

Close range guns exist for closer range

[lavish raptor]

its running around

not just front line

but nice assumption

[balmy creek]

Recon more like useless because nobody has mics

😎

[stoic breach]

I'm assuming you have trouble using recon weapons under 50m away from a target

[lavish raptor]

bet

[stoic breach]

RSC is the closer midrange option for recon before the P08

[lavish raptor]

/xbox trying to tell me im bad

ok

[coral fiber]

Jeez i nearly have 3 million XP for pilot class

[balmy creek]

Xbox LOL

[lavish raptor]

nice

[coral fiber]

[stoic breach]

Dude, you're saying the RSC sucks because it doesnt 2 shot after 50m

[balmy creek]

Everyone knows the Wii is superior

[lavish raptor]

im saying it sucks

because theres 3 other semis that surpass it in recon

[stoic breach]

But they dont fire as fast or have good hipfire like the RSC

Hint hint

[lavish raptor]

hip firing is for noobs

[sonic moss]

I'm on a quest

[stoic breach]

So your argument now is that not holding right click while left clicking is for noobs

[sonic moss]

To get every single gun to level ten

[lavish raptor]

not an argument

an opinion

chill.

[balmy creek]

firing whilst laying on your back only using artillery is for pro's

[stoic breach]

An opposing opinion often leads to argument does it not

[balmy creek]

guns are overrated

[stoic breach]

Why use guns when you can just use a tank and camp

[balmy creek]

using tanks in BFV

lul

[lavish raptor]

you arent inclined to argue

this is a free country not australia

sit the fuck down

[coral fiber]

Breh

[stoic breach]

What does that have to do with anything lol

[balmy creek]

Australia more like the Upside Down

[lavish raptor]

youre a hostile motherfucker 24/7

i dont need to argue

[teal compass]

EEE

[coral fiber]

Hostile?

[lavish raptor]

get it through your head

[coral fiber]

Lol

[stoic breach]

[solid hinge]

okay i know u lot hate snipers

[coral fiber]

[solid hinge]

but i just finally lowered my graphics for visibility

[stoic breach]

👽👽

[solid hinge]

and went 48-8

on the new map

[autumn nest]

[solid hinge]

jesus

i was like stodeh out here hitting headshots i shouldnt have been

[lavish raptor]

nice

[solid hinge]

i even got accused of hacking

[stoic breach]

BF playerbase is full of hackusers

[autumn nest]

Stodeh is crazy with any sniper

[coral fiber]

Mmm yes

[teal compass]

how to avoid hackers:
use console

[stoic breach]

Hes crazier when not using a sniper

[fallow root]

Australia lives in upside down world

[stoic breach]

[coral fiber]

Anyone else watches fabianchills

[balmy creek]

No

[teal compass]

no

[stoic breach]

Nah

Whos that

[balmy creek]

I only watch Markiplier like a real gamer

[teal compass]

the lord himself

[balmy creek]

😎

[autumn nest]

Lol

[stoic breach]

I watch Jackscowpptrieeyeye

[coral fiber]

Some bfv memer youtuber

[teal compass]

imma go eat f o o d

h a h a

😳

[balmy creek]

BF youtuber
not JF

[fallow root]

They're filming new LOTR in new Zealand

[balmy creek]

Lies

[stoic breach]

Any BF youtubers other than Boomernonsense dont exist

[autumn nest]

No way

[balmy creek]

Stop trying to hype me

@fallow root

[fallow root]

Wut

[autumn nest]

JackFrags...

[balmy creek]

New LOTR

[coral fiber]

He's like the meme version of stodeh

Fabianchills

[fallow root]

Yeah. Cool isnt it?

[balmy creek]

Source?

@fallow root

[stoic breach]

I just watched Stodeh's Tromboncino highlights

[balmy creek]

I need concrete proof

[stoic breach]

An intellectual bolt action

[balmy creek]

Cold hard evidence

[fallow root]

Search on google

Google is your friend

[autumn nest]

When is it supposed to be released?

[fallow root]

👌

[balmy creek]

It's a series

Not a movie

😡

2020 @autumn nest

[fallow root]

20 per season

[stoic breach]

#general ehehehe

[autumn nest]

Ah

[stoic breach]

[autumn nest]

👌

[balmy creek]

@stoic breach #stats

[fallow root]

But LOTR ain't dead

[balmy creek]

Bots belong there

GTFO

[stoic breach]

Intellectual take

[prime pine]

Hello

[stoic breach]

Bodie you would not believe your eyes

[prime pine]

What

[stoic breach]

Idk

[prime pine]

Right

[fallow root]

Razen. Have you noticed on news coverage about new lotr series?

[stoic breach]

Nah I'm not a big Lotr fan

I'm a full on casual

[fallow root]

You'are from Australia

[stoic breach]

Australia isnt just Lotr, theres lots of culture and drunk people here too

[teal compass]

razen being one of em 😩

[prime pine]

Whaaat

Raze isnt drunk

[stoic breach]

I've only been drunk once

[teal compass]

sad

[prime pine]

Well... From what i know of him

Raze is a good boy

[stoic breach]

And thats cause I clutched two rounds of beer pong

[hoary condor]

Finally ToW done.. operation underground is so bad

[stoic breach]

And I havent been drunk since

[teal compass]

bruh

[hoary condor]

Never have to play again 🙂

[stoic breach]

Yeah I'm a good boy

[fallow root]

Aussie

[prime pine]

Hahaha beer pong

Ive been drunk.... Something something

[teal compass]

bruh

[stoic breach]

Something something dark side

[prime pine]

Look. I first got drunk without realising HOW STRONG the booze was.

[main grove]

Why are 1000kg BOMBS SO SHIT

[lavish raptor]

kpin

[prime pine]

Then afterwards i started drinking for fun for my games

[teal compass]

1000kg bombs are literal shit

[prime pine]

Cause they nerfed the large bombs

[main grove]

Every 1000kg bomb I drop directly onto infantry does about 23 damage

[prime pine]

You may as go 4x 500 kilo grams

I play better when im drunk. I actually made a game really close (and we won) on one occasion.

What was on my mind? Objective objective OBJECTIVE

[fallow root]

Do all aussie say No worries, mate

[teal compass]

imagine playing BFV drunk

[fallow root]

Drunk upside down

[prime pine]

I just say no worries

Dont trust me to fly while drunk

[fallow root]

Are you from AU Raptor

[teal compass]

i mean

if they're getting drunk every 2 seconds

probably

[prime pine]

I dont get drunk all the time

Im Australian yes

[stoic breach]

Bodie you stole Raptor's name

[prime pine]

Havent drunk for a good couple of months cause its not a priority

HEY

THIS NAME WAS BASED OFF A JOKE

[teal compass]

burn raptor

[stoic breach]

[fallow root]

Ain't 'No worries' the most common reply in everyday talk?

[teal compass]

my question was never answered

[prime pine]

RAPTOR PUFFS. IF YOU'RE NOT BLEEDING ENOUGH YOU'RE NOT EATING ENOUGH

[teal compass]

is it considered furry if u roleplay as a dinosoaur

[stoic breach]

Its considered furry if you roleplay as a furry

[prime pine]

Scalie

[stoic breach]

I just remembered this is Battlefield chat

Bruh moment

[main grove]

Wow there was someone in the enemy team with 3 kills and 26 deaths

[stoic breach]

[fallow root]

Furry suit most be hot

Inside

[teal compass]

ok ur good

nice save

[prime pine]

I made a guy go 0-30

On fjell cause all he did is rush to the spawn AA

Dumb fuck didnt get the message

[teal compass]

bruh

[main grove]

Yeah it seems like the people who go 2-25 are always usually AA users

[teal compass]

at least they're trying

[main grove]

As soon as I know that a pilot knows I’m on an AA I get the fuck out of there

[teal compass]

at least they're trying [2]

[stoic breach]

AA is an idiot trap

[main grove]

I use AA occasionally but I never stay on it longer than a minute

[stoic breach]

I killed a bomber with AA once

He didnt realise I was shooting at him

[main grove]

I kill them quite often

You have to pick your moment carefully

If they try and do a turn near you that usually catches them off guard

Don’t let them know that someone is using AA until it’s too late

If they survive the first burst get off

Usually go for people who are busy with another plane

[balmy creek]

Does anyone know what those flares are you can drop out of fighter planes? Are they like the flares recon has or?

[main grove]

Yeah

They mark a circle on the map with enemies

Though both sides use them

[teal compass]

BF1 flares in Underground

[main grove]

British usually use flares more

Germans usually use camera more

[teal compass]

haha camera

[main grove]

Camera is good for yourself if you’re a bomber

If you fly in the right place you can literally spot the whole map

[stoic breach]

Camera in the Archer tank is great

[main grove]

Flares don’t give a shit about Line of sight though

[stoic breach]

3D spot while aiming and just harvest the enemy team

[main grove]

Spotting scope is only on light tanks and Archer

[lavish raptor]

anyone else listen to pusha when playing

[teal compass]

i used to go Archer all the time

but then Valentine

[main grove]

It’s good on the staghound with adapter

[teal compass]

aw ye

[main grove]

Because then you’re essentially a recon tank

That actually does a recons job

[lavish raptor]

dont sell me apartments i move in the lobby

[stoic breach]

Staghound is a better AA than Valentine AA lol

[main grove]

Light tanks actually have the best velocity

[balmy creek]

not playing light assault or medic on BFV

you're doing it wrong bud

[main grove]

Because the projectile is so light

37mm cannon with Littlejohn adapter is the fastest tank cannon in the game

When also using AP

[stoic breach]

Its not so good against heavy tanks

[main grove]

Yeah

[stoic breach]

Valentine MK8 is still overall the best tank in the game

[teal compass]

you're saying valentine is not good against heavy tanks

[stoic breach]

Stag isnt good against heavy tanks

[teal compass]

valentine with AP shells is the best shit ever

[main grove]

Though you can melt medium tanks rather quick if you target their weak spot

[stoic breach]

Valentine with APCR can out-DPS a Tiger

[main grove]

Valentine needs to be a bit slower

[stoic breach]

The other tanks just need buffs for days

[main grove]

It’s really classed as a sort of light heavy tank

Actually yeah

Other tanks just need to be as good as the valentine

[stoic breach]

Valentine needs to be better as well

No turret rotation limit

For any tanks

[main grove]

Nope

Completely disagree

[teal compass]

why is this CoD shit in the game

[stoic breach]

Make tanks great again

😩😩

[teal compass]

where if you go behind cover

and you still get killed

[main grove]

Tigers with their fucking insta turn turrets were bullshit

[stoic breach]

Thats cause infantry AT sucks

[main grove]

In the alpha

[stoic breach]

Remove turret rotation limit and buff infantry AT

[main grove]

Infantry AT is good but only one load out of it

[stoic breach]

PIAT

[main grove]

Dynamite. AT grenade PIAT

[stoic breach]

Panzerfaust needs a serious buff to be even remotely relevant

[main grove]

Panzer Faust on release was bullshit

[stoic breach]

Allow soldiers to carry 8 to 10 Panzerfausts

😩

[main grove]

It did like 40 damage

[stoic breach]

Lol

What does it do now?

Like 3

[main grove]

15-25

[stoic breach]

All it does is interrupt repairs

[prime pine]

Im going to learn to strafe with the VA

[main grove]

Panzerfasut should be low risk low reward

[prime pine]

And the g2

[stoic breach]

15-25 is great if you're holding 8 to 10 rockets

[main grove]

Panzerfaust is meant to be ranged though

[prime pine]

So raze. If we're on the german team. And im in the fighter. Expect lots of spots.

[stoic breach]

Panzerfaust is high risk low reward now

[main grove]

Like 100m

Panzerfaust is not risky

[stoic breach]

The risk is not spawning with the PIAT

[main grove]

At all

[stoic breach]

[main grove]

Just peek about a mile away

[stoic breach]

Panzerfaust range doesnt make the gadget any less pox

[prime pine]

The damage compared to the piat is horrible

[teal compass]

what is better tho

[main grove]

Nerf piat as well

[prime pine]

You need to do as much damage as possible with launchers

[stoic breach]

PIAT as high splash is great

[main grove]

Fuck ranged at

[prime pine]

So tanks should be even more powerful

[stoic breach]

PIAT needs a rebuff

Ranged AT is anti-camper

[prime pine]

I hope the AT rockets will do a shitton of damage

The bazooka and shrek

[teal compass]

you mean

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[teal compass]

oh

nvm

[main grove]

Panzerfaust should be around 15-25 damage
PIAT should be 20-35

[stoic breach]

PIAT should do less to vehicles and more to infantry again

Make PIAT great again

[teal compass]

nah make PIAT do 500 damage per shot

[stoic breach]

Yes please

[prime pine]

When we get our actual launchers

[stoic breach]

That would be hilarious

[main grove]

I think launchers either do even less damage but you carry like 5 rockets

Or they do more but have a long reloads

[prime pine]

Faust should be a good 6 rockets considering its damage ratio

Carry limit

[stoic breach]

I reckon Panzerfaust should be like straight 18 damage, but with fast reload and you can hold 10 of them

[prime pine]

Fast "reload"

[main grove]

10

10 Panzerfaust

[lavish raptor]

10

[stoic breach]

Yes

[main grove]

What are you on

[prime pine]

Give it high crit damage

[stoic breach]

10 Panzerfaust would make it relevant

Cause right now its like 4 or whatever, and it does shit all against infantry

And tanks

So you always just pick PIAT anyways

And deal with the extra drop

[main grove]

Panzerfaust is not as bad as you’re making it out to be Jesus

[lavish raptor]

^

[prime pine]

6 and high crit damage would make it applicable threat. I just didnt understand its initial nerf cause it was an AT rocket... So it should be a threat

[lavish raptor]

shaped charge

better against tanks

[midnight nimbus]

BFV vehicles and anti vehicle is so poorly balanced that it's likely easier to toss the entire system than try to fix it

[stoic breach]

Probably

[prime pine]

How would you change it kht

[stoic breach]

Panzerfaust probably only seemed BS because tanks are slow as fuck

[teal compass]

i got killed by a fucking

[main grove]

KHT thinks BF4 is perfect

[teal compass]

staghound

in my PanzerIV

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 isn't perfect

[teal compass]

the fuck

[midnight nimbus]

there's a lot of shit I didn't like

but BF4 vehicle balance was considerably better

[prime pine]

C4 killed so quickly

It was scary

So it forced you to stay back

How many would kill? 3?

4?

[stoic breach]

But also if you kept moving you wouldnt get fucked by AT

[hoary condor]

Anyone else get this weird background?

[midnight nimbus]

3 C4s to kill in BF4

[prime pine]

Yeah i get it too

[midnight nimbus]

used to be 2

[stoic breach]

Vs BFV where tanks move so slowly and turrets rotate so slowly that its better to camp in uncap

[teal compass]

./\

[prime pine]

Still curious

How would you change the system, Kht.

[main grove]

Tanks die easy

Infy die easy

Everyone dies

[midnight nimbus]

for BFV?

mmmmmm

well, gotta start by tossing out everything

[prime pine]

How would you think they can make the bazooka and the shrek unique enough to make people consider using them

[stoic breach]

Powercreep the Panzerfaust out of existence

Thats how

[opaque pawn]

Probably range and accuracy

[prime pine]

Haha

[midnight nimbus]

no

[stoic breach]

[prime pine]

Yeah im thinking they'll be pre nerf faust with less ammo

[midnight nimbus]

rn, BFV launchers only carry differences by damage

but there's so many more variables you can use

[opaque pawn]

Well, there is the projectile drop

[prime pine]

RPG was low velocity but high crit damage right?

[stoic breach]

It was a joke 😔

[prime pine]

And smaw was low damage but easy to lead

[midnight nimbus]

part of the issue is attrition making all resources replenish at the same rate

toss that shit

with BF1 ammo 2.0 timers, you could have a super powerful launcher that doesn't replenish frequently

or you could have weaker launchers that you can have a lot of

you can have weak launchers that crit well

[prime pine]

So the panzerfaust!

[midnight nimbus]

you can have launchers that are better for going for part damage

there's a lot of variety that can be used

but isn't

[prime pine]

Cause they dont bother

[stoic breach]

Thats true

Cause of attrition

[opaque pawn]

Well I mean, we only have two launchers available

Hopefully they do something unique

[midnight nimbus]

the vehicles themselves are an even bigger issue

[prime pine]

The only thing you can do in this shitty attrition war is make them different with capacity to make it up

[midnight nimbus]

they have probably too much variety

[main grove]

Panzerfaust should be medium damage medium range high crit and you carry 3
PIAT should be high damage, low range, low crit and you carry 3
Bazooka/Panzershreck should be low damage high range high crit and you carry 5

[prime pine]

British have more curved surfaces than german ones

[midnight nimbus]

dps and armor multis need to be normalized

[stoic breach]

PIAT being low crit high splash anti-infantry works out

[prime pine]

It would actually make sense

[stoic breach]

Too bad attrition gadget spam got it nerfed

[main grove]

PIAT should do low damage to heavy armour

Like Churchill and Tiger

[prime pine]

It was pretty fucking annoying to fight

As infy

[main grove]

I know it’s HEAT but let’s pretend it’s HE

[midnight nimbus]

you could tweak reload times too for effective RoF

[main grove]

Panzerfaust should be quite a fast reload tbf

[prime pine]

Some fucking spastic would be running around the map with the launchet cause they cant use their stg1-5

[stoic breach]

I would still like if the Panzerfaust had a much faster reload than it does

[main grove]

Faster than PIAT

[midnight nimbus]

PIAT is fine as fast reload

we have a general lack of good anti infy explosives too

[prime pine]

Slighter higher crit damage for the faust than the piat would be good enough for it

[main grove]

Wish they’d add the magnetic mine already

[prime pine]

Giving support and recon TNT too would be interesting

[main grove]

Like the BF1 limpet

[midnight nimbus]

I don't think AT variety is as much of an issue as the vehicles themselves though

[main grove]

I think the biggest issue with BFV is definitely attrition

Just return to BF1 ammo

[midnight nimbus]

but yeah, you can really see how attrition fucks up balance and variety

[main grove]

Pls

[untold wraith]

I love attrition.

[main grove]

You don’t

[stoic breach]

Attrition makes gadget spam too frequent

[main grove]

You’re actually lying to yourself

[untold wraith]

It’s better than automatically having ammo when you need it

[prime pine]

I dont mind the ammo part of attrition as much as the health part

[midnight nimbus]

with Ammo 2.0, you could've had a launcher that's a flat upgrade over another, but replenishes more slowly to compensate

[untold wraith]

You actually have to resupply

It’s realistic and cool

[main grove]

Attrition makes it so you either never have ammo or you get 6 PIATS in a godamn row

Realistic can fuck off

[midnight nimbus]

having to resupply frequently isn't realistic lol

[teal compass]

h

[midnight nimbus]

you know how much ammo real soldiers carry?

irl American WW2 soldier would carry 17 clips for their M1 Garand

[prime pine]

A dozen or so mags!

Oh wow

[midnight nimbus]

irl USMC grenadier carries 36 40mm grenades for his grenade launcher

[prime pine]

So a good 128 rounds for the garand

[main grove]

It depends on the weapon type but I think ARs and SMGs need about 5 or 6 spare mags

[midnight nimbus]

watch combat footage of insurgents in Libya or the Ukraine

[untold wraith]

Well I like it regardless.

[midnight nimbus]

you'll hear them ask "how many magazines do you have left?" and the guy will respond with "11"

[prime pine]

I forget to resupply as a support and run out of ammo haha...

[untold wraith]

You have to be tactical instead of rushing head on into a point like a scrub.

[main grove]

BF1 ammo was a bit much especially on 10 round SLRs where you have about 14 spare clips

But that’s how they do it

[midnight nimbus]

nothing about ammo attrition stops head on rushing

[teal compass]

people cant repair me

so i die

and they lose the game

hahay es

[midnight nimbus]

bc 90 rounds to start is plenty for the average player

the average player won't live long enough to use all 90

[teal compass]

DICE needs to make it say across every nearby support player screens

"repair your fucking teammate and quit being lazy assholes"

[main grove]

How the hell do ‘pro’ players use all 90 then?

They don’t magdump everywhere

[midnight nimbus]

yes they do

[main grove]

4-5 for each enemy

[midnight nimbus]

look at lessons from BF4 ESL: spray vs good players

attrition was quite literally designed to limit the effectiveness of good players

[main grove]

e-sports

[midnight nimbus]

DICE even said in the BFV release that attrition wouldn't affect most players

[untold wraith]

Also magical auras of resupply is shit, I want to see my character pick stuff up, it’s way more aesthetically pleasing that way.

[stoic breach]

The animations get in the way of gameplay alot of the time though

[prime pine]

I would rather gameplay over realism being honest

[balmy creek]

If you want realism, don't play BF

[prime pine]

They had to add auras just simply for functionality

[stoic breach]

I would prefer if supports had constant ammo auras as well

[balmy creek]

It's still an arcade game

[stoic breach]

Just run near one for more ammo

[main grove]

Because DICE want the game to appeal for people who aren’t good and “hardcore” players can whine all they want about “casuals” but it makes complete sense from a business point

[midnight nimbus]

yeah fuck physicality

[balmy creek]

Go play Arma or something, that's more for the hardcore realism junkies

[main grove]

Except they fucked it

[stoic breach]

BF1 had that in CTE and everyone sooked about it

[main grove]

And made it awkward for both

[stoic breach]

Now boxes have auras and everyone loves it

[midnight nimbus]

physicality really reinforces the shit meme that butthugging = teamplay

[prime pine]

In bf1 it wasnt as intrusive

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 health and ammo crates had radii tuned to be long enough so that players don't have to stand close enough to each other to both be hit by one mortar round

[prime pine]

When i go to an old battlefield and get in vehicles. I expect an animation so im taken for a loop

[main grove]

You can still be helpful to your team in BF1 it’s just there wasn’t a bunch of awkward animations everywhere

[midnight nimbus]

so you can have your teamplay without bunching up

[prime pine]

If you enjoy one part thats completely fine

[untold wraith]

Take for example, reviving, I enjoy reviving in BFV because the animation is not only cool but it makes it challenging for medics to actually res instead of instantly getting someone up to fight again.

[midnight nimbus]

I don't think making teamwork even harder is worthwhile

[untold wraith]

It makes you decide what is more important in any given situation.

[midnight nimbus]

not that I revive randoms in BFV anyways

[main grove]

I can’t really decide on whether or not I prefer BF1 or 5 revive

They’re both bullshit in their own way

[solid hinge]

Bf1 always

[untold wraith]

I find most things in BFV to be superior to older versions. Perhaps that is an unpopular opinion.

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 revive is perfect

[prime pine]

I mean... Reviving is ok but i wouldnt mind the flipping over part being taken out cause thats one half of the animation.

[main grove]

But ones just easier to do while the other is just asking for bugs

[solid hinge]

Doesn't take an age to revive in bf1

[stoic breach]

Revive training is bad, but getting locked into an animation that isnt even accurate is terrible as well

[solid hinge]

Plus bf1 medic weapons are awesome

[midnight nimbus]

only thing I rly like about BFV is that low base spread feels crispy

not that I think BFV gunplay is perfect, but it can feel nice on some guns

[main grove]

Yeah base spread in BF1 was awful imo

[prime pine]

Fg42!

: D

[midnight nimbus]

base spread in BF1 was fine

[main grove]

Especially on MP18 and Ribey

[midnight nimbus]

lower than BF4's

[teal compass]

i just got

[stoic breach]

Base spread did help close range weapons to stay close range

[teal compass]

killed in 2 hits

[midnight nimbus]

dude Ribey had rly good base spread wtf are you on about

[teal compass]

in a tank

ok

[main grove]

Ribey was bad for me in BF1

[untold wraith]

Depends where you get hit tox.

[main grove]

It only felt worth using for the bipod

[teal compass]

i was getting hit in the front

[midnight nimbus]

I think BFV gunplay moving towards ezmode is definitely the right step though

[prime pine]

Thought the ribey was a meme cause of the bipod

[main grove]

Otherwise for me it was just a shitty MP18

[midnight nimbus]

more accessible for more players

[untold wraith]

[midnight nimbus]

but that kind of goes against the rest of the game being less accessible

so 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[prime pine]

It is weird that bf5 is the only game with a gun i actually consistently like

[main grove]

I like all guns

In BFV

[balmy creek]

Women ruined BFV, change my opinion.

[stoic breach]

The EZ mode gunplay does give the impression that all weapons are good at range though, when they aren't

[midnight nimbus]

that's fine

let the community draw their own conclusions

[untold wraith]

Yikes.

[stoic breach]

I suppose

[main grove]

Bolt actions do need a big big buff though

[midnight nimbus]

as long as it's balanced, doesn't matter what the brain melted community thinks

[main grove]

Vehicles need their own update

[balmy creek]

Yes, we're all braindead here

[midnight nimbus]

people still think Sten is a 100m laser, let them

[teal compass]

i got killed in 3 hits again

ok

[main grove]

Playing the beta and picking then sten and actually killing someone 40m away does that to you

[untold wraith]

Try to hang back in your tank and eliminate any Infantry

[midnight nimbus]

let the people's feels take over the reals

idc

[teal compass]

time to bring out the Tiger

[untold wraith]

Not to say you shouldn’t support your own Infantry, just be aware of your surroundings.

[teal compass]

even tho that shit's paper

[main grove]

I don’t think DICE are as incompetent as the BFV subreddit makes them out

They did trip up though

[teal compass]

i do hang back @untold wraith

there's always people that go overkill for no reason

[midnight nimbus]

I've talked to a decent amount of people who work there who rly know what they're doing

[untold wraith]

Well

[midnight nimbus]

there's also a decent amount who don't

[untold wraith]

GG enemy assaults.

[teal compass]

and chase you across the map

[main grove]

What did they have to say about it or is it not allowed to be divulged

About Battlefield V

[teal compass]

and someone

SOMEHOW

got into a tank

and it didnt say it was available

tf

[midnight nimbus]

it'll never be the great BF game everyone expects, that's for sure

[untold wraith]

It’s a matter of opinion.

I think it is.

And if that makes me a bootlicker, so be it.

[main grove]

I’m just sick of watching videos of Bad company 1 or 2 and seeing all the comments saying “MAN FUCK BF5 THIS IS THE GOOD SHIT”

Like holy shit Bad company 1 and 2 just look so terrible to play

Compared to newer ones

[teal compass]

BFV is more advanced than every past game

but no one cares about that

😔

[midnight nimbus]

yeah BFBC sucks

garbage movement and gunplay

[main grove]

They have alright maps but that’s about it

[midnight nimbus]

the redeeming factors were the lighthearted settings and maps well designed for rush

[main grove]

Wasn’t BF3 the first BF to use the modern gunplay?

[midnight nimbus]

depends on what you define as modern

it's certainly the first BF with good gunplay

[prime pine]

Bad co 2 movement had bad sprint

Cause its so fucking tight

[main grove]

Well I think bad company just plays like a more advanced BF1942/BF2

And they all did

Until BF3

[midnight nimbus]

you couldn't move diagonally in BC2 lol

well BF3 = BF2 + BC2 + good gunplay and movement

[main grove]

I don’t remember BF3

I was like 10

BF1 was the first one I played a lot

I played a bit of BF4 before that but wasn’t too keen

Mostly because the game made me feel sick with the 70 FOV and motion blur that you can’t adjust on console

[midnight nimbus]

there's a lot of things I'd change, but BF4 vehicle play was certainly the height

[teal compass]

dynamite does too much damage

change my mind

[main grove]

Tanks are too frail to explosions

AP is just barely better than HE

[midnight nimbus]

they take more explosives to kill than BF3/4

[main grove]

Only if you hit at a good angle

[midnight nimbus]

I don't think health is the issue

[torn tree]

Can some1 help me get gallipoli achivment for bf1?

[midnight nimbus]

even with normal angles, BFV tanks take more shots than 3/4

[main grove]

BF3 and 4 had squishy vehicles

[teal compass]

slowly rolls by a building

[main grove]

But they were very fast

[midnight nimbus]

yeah but they had nice mobility

[teal compass]

fucking gets blown up

by literally

nothing

when will these tryhards fuck off for more than 3 minutes

fr

[midnight nimbus]

tank v tank in BFV is so poorly done

need to go back to BF4 vehicle spawn

where you can't freely pick any tank type per map

[main grove]

I think BF4 had better vehicle spawn system

Yeah that was kind of an odd thing with BF1

[teal compass]

i was literally killed in 3 seconds

[main grove]

And then they tried fixing it in later maps

[teal compass]

in my tiger

and my emergency repair didnt do shit

[midnight nimbus]

players wanted more choice, DICE gave them more choice

[teal compass]

cus it takes way too long for it to work