If C was a cave system
#battlefield-legacy-titles
hazy wasp
lavish raptor
i miss grind
hazy wasp
or had cellars it would be much better
lavish raptor
it was soo good for medics
didnt have to rely on shitty balance since the team couldnt zoom th e fuck out
hazy wasp
the major things though I would take forward with BFV and refine is, the gunplay (pretty good, but I'd remove the spec system and have +/- attachments instead, the traversal, but refine it, vaulting should be when you sprint, a jump should be much more dramatic, so not spamming space/x/a to jump
class balance needs a look at
every class should have something for tanks
wooden skiff
I dont agree
hazy wasp
and the medic should not be the SMG class
wooden skiff
I think the main problem is DICE
updates are shit
gameplay is good
I really like the movement in the game
hazy wasp
we have had both good and bad updates
wooden skiff
slinding en proning feels so good
hazy wasp
Aye but if you had vaultign as automatic when sprinting you'd not have that dumb stuff where you get caught on low stuff
yep it sure does i agree, i think it can be refined further
we need a high mantle as well
so if we run and jump at a higher surface we can pull ourselves up
wooden skiff
Yeah good point
lots of times i'm stuck jumping like an idiot trying to reach some place
hazy wasp
yup
would be a much slowly pull yourself up but like thats the downside to it
to balance the movement out
wooden skiff
But maybe we need better map layouts
hazy wasp
some maps do need a little rejog
hazy wasp
ah not in shambles, just needed either more time or better project management
wooden skiff
Yeah something is really wrong at that company
hazy wasp
overworked probbaly
wooden skiff
Its just mis management
edgy dock
add ZWG_StreamSniper for competitive zone wars.
wooden skiff
Well if you do it right it shouldn't be a problem
hazy wasp
Game development isn;t that easy
sometimes you do everythign right and it still explodes and burns you half to death lol
wooden skiff
Apex legends is maybe a good example of that
It just doens't work
While the dev's try hard imo
hazy wasp
Apex would make a great non BR game honestly
wooden skiff
If you've got the basis wrong there is no hope, but bfv had the basis right but the the dev te4am
hazy wasp
Apex as a 6v6 objective game would be pretty awesome
wooden skiff
agree
solid hinge
Isn't that just Titanfall, @hazy wasp?
hazy wasp
Nah
echo turtle
Apex got left for alone for a period of time that was somewhat inexcusable
hazy wasp
Apex is much slower than titanfall
echo turtle
Apex was supposed to be tf3
solid hinge
True enough, I suppose. Never played mp on TF2
echo turtle
Oh shit Marita 
hazy wasp
the demon lovechild of coD Quake and then throw in giant robots
solid hinge
I knew the game was gonna die faster than it could live, so I didn't bother.
hazy wasp
can still get games
echo turtle
Yeah
hazy wasp
but its a bit sluggish
echo turtle
But has the playerbase dropped
echo turtle
Goes to show how people react to slow updates
echo turtle
I wouldn't mind if bfv had dlcs
solid hinge
I'd say Mosquito
midnight nimbus
MW movement is š
undone tusk
Yeah probably Mosquito'
hazy wasp
Mosquito IV
solid hinge
400mph wooden aircraft with a nasty bite. Could pin-point drop explosives skimming over ground level.
hazy wasp
ALso you can give it a fucking tank cannon
solid hinge
Yup. That may have been one of the best aircraft of ww2.
solid hinge
Bomber, fighter, interceptor, ship-destroyer, photo recon.... what can't it do?
hazy wasp
Take on an MW109 fully upgraded on its tail š¦
solid hinge
Thing was so good, Germany awarded their pilots with two kills if they could down it haha
Mw?
solid hinge
Ah, the Messerschmitt Bf 109
Yeah, if the air combat was better, the 109 would never catch up to the Mosquito
hazy wasp
honestly it feels like we have the turning angles of a much larger map and the damage of a much tighter turning circle in most aircraft
thats kinda word garble but do you get me?
solid hinge
Not too well, I'm afraid. But I get the first part. Almost like you can't pull good evasive moves. Just look up and stall out. Kinda bugs me.
night glade
@hazy wasp Late to the conversation, but I don't think For Honor's live service is that great tbh
Their events are cool, but their content feels like it comes out slower than BFV
solid hinge
Have you seen Warframe?
hazy wasp
thing is, all of the content you could in theory get in FHwihtout paying a cent
I have like 220k steel in the game atm
also the content seems to come out at a pace that fits the current community now
solid hinge
Wasn't it calculated to be over two years of continuous playing, though?
hazy wasp
it has a set schedule is more what i was getting at
stoic breach
Warframe š©
hazy wasp
you know when events are coming, and they always hit on time
btw other note on air combat
solid hinge
@stoic breach Already got all of the new frame and weapons from the update the day it released lmao
hazy wasp
Why do we have to resuppply AND have cooldowns lol
solid hinge
I guess to prevent one Ace from endlessly shredding the skies each time? Kind of like a balancing act.
hazy wasp
no but like
just have cooldowns
or have it so you get multiple resupplies from the 'base' and then the cooldowns work the same so you don't constantly end up flying back to the base
stoic breach
Gauss mode
solid hinge
I could see that. It is hard to restock bombs and guns without having the ground crew service the plane.
hazy wasp
I'd have cooldowns over no cooldowns but its like a double punishment taking you away from the action
solid hinge
@stoic breach Your mastery?
hazy wasp
Same as Level blocking content and then using CC to unlock it?
solid hinge
Keep it up dude. Just note, you don't have to pay a penny! I pump in money every so often because I support DE
stoic breach
Yea honestly, paying for cosmetics is perfectly fine to me
solid hinge
And you can hassle any plat from other people.
odd marlin
All i can say is this, BFV is a Tryhard game
solid hinge
@hazy wasp I'm looking forward to the U.S. aricraft. I hope to see the P-38
stoic breach
Oh yeah, BF planes used to have just cooldowns
solid hinge
You should have seen me complaining about Squad Conquest - I have to try hard to even have a decent game lmao
stoic breach
Now you have an awkward fetch quest that makes planes predictable
hazy wasp
Squad Conquest is fine for a novelty but gets old after a few rounds
solid hinge
@odd marlin I kid you not, 45 kills, 11 deaths and I still lost.
I only play it for chapter xp or the finish the tier grind.
visual blade
damn your team must've been stormtroopers
odd marlin
because ur team not ptfoing...
dark sorrel
Oh yeah planes having to resupply but also having cool downs is fucking stupid
hazy wasp
basically every game of 20man domination i played on the CoD Beta earlier
if you resupply have me get like 3 loads of bombs + the cooldown
solid hinge
Yup. Even stopped a whole squad (solo btw) from taking B on the Fjord while I lost everything else.
odd marlin
nobody bother to cap the flags, just goin for kills in squad conquest, happens alot to me @solid hinge
hazy wasp
So i drop one load > cooldown > Second load, etc
I'd still have resupplies for gadgets/ammo though for main guns
solid hinge
I try to cap majority. Yet my team lets them back-cap me and suddenly, I'm fighting on every front while my team is sitting in spawn. Not using the req points.
dark sorrel
Honestly their way of countering bomber spam isnt great
solid hinge
I'm not saying you're wrong.
dark sorrel
IMO they should add a bomb scatter effect in which the higher you are the more the payload scatters over an area and allow infantry to deploy barrage balloons as a gadget to make it risky for bombers to get in close
stoic breach
Bomber spam only exists because there's no infantry counter
hazy wasp
I'd have heal, based on if you were out of combat + don;t hold down to do it
activate it like healing as a soldier
you have it as a limited resource
stoic breach
The fliegerfaust that was datamined would be the perfect counter to planes for infantry
solid hinge
Tell me about this, "fliegerfaust."
sullen sonnet
hb a stinger
solid hinge
An SPAA like the Wirbelwind?
hazy wasp
Also Planes should be taken down like they could be in BF1
solid hinge
Or a kit based item?
stoic breach
Its a gadget
hazy wasp
engine damage/wing damage disabled then a kill
solid hinge
Ooooh?
stoic breach
Anti-plane launcher
dark sorrel
I loved the vehicle countering in BF1
dark solstice
guessing it will be support or assault
hazy wasp
and whoeveer did the most damage to them gets the kill/assist counts as kill even if they suicide
wooden skiff
COD BETA LIVE IN 4 MINS RIGHT?
stoic breach
I hope the Fliegerfaust is a support gadget
hazy wasp
CoD beta was live all day o.O
dark sorrel
In which infantry can comfortably deal with vehicles if they combine a range of kits
stoic breach
But its probably gonna be an assault gadget
solid hinge
@hazy wasp You should be given the victory if they bail out or suicide.
dark solstice
well when the japanese come, plane ramming will rise
wooden skiff
Well i'm not preordering
hazy wasp
heh
echo turtle
It's going free
hazy wasp
Give the recon dynamite not the assault, god dammit!
dark sorrel
Like I loved how everyone had their own way of attacking vehicles but none were super effective
solid hinge
Plane ramming is too damn good. I destroyed a Junkers 88 in a Spitfire by slamming its fuselage
hazy wasp
if you hit biombers by knifing through the wing with full health you will destroy them and survive yourself
I don't do it i just have seen it happen a number of times by accident
solid hinge
They need to fix that, honestly.
hazy wasp
I call it ''Captain Marvelling''
lavish raptor
whats the best british plane for dog fighting
solid hinge
Ramming reminds me of the Zonderkommando Elbe
Spitfire with the tips gone
Decreased drag, increased maneuverability, better gun platform.
I think it has .50cals and Hispanos.
@lavish raptor What I do, is use the .50 cal until it begins to overheat the swap to the other gun system until that overheats. By this point, the previous set of guns have cooled off and you can just unlease this massive barrage of firepower until they bail, crash, or die.
lavish raptor
what upgrades should i put on mosquito
just got that fat bitch to level 2
whats the best british tank
solid hinge
Imo, the Churchil with a 90mm Howitzer and HESH
dark solstice
staghound is good too
lavish raptor
which churchhill
dark solstice
i prefer mobility and fire power, over extreme fire power, and limited mobility
solid hinge
Not the Gun Carrier with the massive superstructure
lavish raptor
k
dark solstice
and i don't like fixed turret tanks
solid hinge
I could see that. For me, I get popped too quick by Pzkpfw IV's and AT rockets.
prime pine
The howitser and hesh limits the churchills range immensely but they're still great options.
Hitting targets from 100M aaay is a challenge already with them.
solid hinge
Yes they do. If you can compensate for the ballistics, it doesn't matter. I sniped a Pzkpfw VI from a very long distance with ease.
prime pine
Unless you're on a ledge. I'd say you can only shoot for 250/300M.
Still learning the damn thing but i just use it as an infantry killer.
solid hinge
I use my Churchil as a Panzerjager and the Valentine as Anti-Infy
stoic breach
Even though the Valentine is better at anti tank generally
dark solstice
a supply truck for each side in bfv would be nice, it can have all types of ammo (Tank, and all infantry ammo) and health.
solid hinge
Historically, I disagree. In BF, I can't say.
stoic breach
The MK8 Valentine can out-DPS a tiger
echo turtle
Support class: Tank Man
Passives: Ability to resupply tanks and vehicles in exchange for 10% movement speed loss
Repairs tanks and vehicles faster than their other counterparts
stoic breach
Reduced movement speed in a game where soldiers already run kind of slowly
echo turtle
They feel like they're fast as hell imo
solid hinge
And light. You ever see how the tanks bounce like they're on a trampoline?
stoic breach
BFV soldiers have the same movement speed as in BF1
Just faster acceleration I think
stoic breach
And yeah, light tank physics are strange
dark solstice
tank drifting is an art
echo turtle
Maybe an animation instead of the loss of movement
stoic breach
I don't think movement speed reduction would work at all, you already can't sprint while repairing
echo turtle
Like a quick opening of the hatch tossing in some ammo and shutting it
prime pine
Its scary being launched by mines while in the 38T
stoic breach
It would be nice if tanks just had ammo cooldowns instead
solid hinge
Nope
stoic breach
One of the reasons that tanks camp is because of limited ammo
echo turtle
The Tank Scrapper specialization needs a rework imo
stoic breach
Because of that, camping a resupply point can break the game in some situations
prime pine
You cant really go aggressive anyways in a tank
dark solstice
i beg to differ
echo turtle
The class could start with more ammunition for the Faust or the Piat and deal increased damage
stoic breach
Yeah because of the reduced turret rotation speed
And slow movement speed
Oh yeah Panzerfaust needs a buff
You should be able to carry 9 or 10 of them
prime pine
If they gave us two instant repairs, faster speed, more turret speed and more part health then i can imagine a faster meta
echo turtle
The tank scrapper special isn't really appealing how it is
More req points and the spotting a tank once you hit it with explosives?
stoic breach
Well having no rotation limitation and faster speed in previous games was never a problem
prime pine
Tanks could carry 5 instant reapurs in the alpha
prime pine
Repairs
stoic breach
Yea
dark solstice
i feel like the staghound is pretty offensive
stoic breach
Stag is probably the worst British tank
echo turtle
Sticks out like a sore thumb
prime pine
Light tanks lost a lot of buzz after the nerf
stoic breach
Yeah fuckin stupid
echo turtle
The valentine in the beta was fun
prime pine
It was actually balanced with how light tanks could actually do something
stoic breach
Yeah
dark solstice
i've had good runs with the stag, can't speak for you all
stoic breach
The vehicle balance team at DICE have no fucking idea what they're doing
prime pine
Ive had really good runs as well early in the game.
echo turtle
Does the stag actually do damage to tanks?
solid hinge
I'm not one for the Stag. It's a good American vehicle, but not my kind of thing.
echo turtle
Makes sense
prime pine
And its 37 Mm does very little
echo turtle
A dude was nailing the side of the panzer IV I was riding in with the autocannon
dark solstice
the stags rockets to the back of a tank is crippling
stoic breach
Yeah unless you really like the Churchill, theres sort of no reason to use anything other than the MK8 or Archer
dark solstice
i think people over look the rockets
stoic breach
Stag rockets require the Stag to drive up next to the tank and point blank it
solid hinge
I have rockets on mine, I just dont use it after I got it rank 4
echo turtle
Rarely do I see people trying to hug the side of a tank or a tank trying to move with infantry
dark solstice
not really an issue if you play the stag like it's a shopping cart with a jet engine
solid hinge
A sniper on wheels
stoic breach
Anti infantry is just the obvious way to use vehicles
echo turtle
The flakpanzer before the nerf was the first priority if you came across one
Not as scary anymore imo
dark solstice
i've had moments where i was hiding behind something metal, and i cant hear the screech of a flakpanzer as it shakes the metal object
stoic breach
The Flakpanzer nerf made it a non-vehicle
echo turtle
Light tanks are easy points if you're going out of your way to hunt them if the driver has no idea of what they're supposed to do
dark solstice
i want the BT tank to come wtih the russians
short pecan
disable their engine or tracks and its just a point pinata
echo turtle
The boys at took longer to get than I expected
But it encouraged players to either use tanks or scrap them when you cake across them
steel agate
During this ToW intermission period, how about you guys tackle one of our EEs?
We don't yet know what the telephones are for, or the bird chirp noise on Mercury.
It may be a good change of pace
echo turtle
Trial and error to see what happens?
steel agate
believe me, we tried a bunch of things
but fresh eyes may be what we need
We've been stuck for months
echo turtle
Does it auto invite me when I click on it?
lavish raptor
@steel agate in yhour opinion
what is the best bomber
i need something to neet with my german friend
steel agate
I was about to suggest the JU88 lol
But if you're playing as a British...
The rear guns are super strong if you go down the spec tree
All bombers will lose to fully upgraded quad gun and bokadone fighters though
echo turtle
Is there anymore videos with the odd sound on mercury?
steel agate
https://youtu.be/fE3idxtl38A?t=33 @echo turtle
I like to use the Blenheim with the cannon and 4K lb pound against tanks
I guess it's really situational
Cause I wouldn't use the canon one on say, Fjell. At all
I'd use the standard Blenheim bomber
And coordinate with teammate fighter planes to help fend off enemy fighters
Overall, I usually get the standard Blenheim bomber for infantry, and the Blenheim with 6 pounder + 4K lb bomb if I just want to take out enemy armor
Against enemy planes... the quad forward guns on the fighter or the Blenheim 6 pounder are good
steel agate
By the way, while in bombers, you will lose to fighters every time if they have 4x forward guns or a bokadone
prime pine
The IF can protect itself with the nose gunner which is nasty
steel agate
or a canon
prime pine
Fb is pure anti ground with no defence versus air
steel agate
You will need to coordinate help with AA and teammates
keen falcon
Yall probably lvl 567. I'm lvl 25 or something. I quit for a while because level cap increased. I'm currently re downloading
gray saffron
I think i'm at 60 or so lol
lavish raptor
which JU is best
prime pine
Rank 101 right now.
prime pine
88C is very good
Its got a spotting camera
Blen mk1 is the better bomber for infantry cause of its guns.
gray saffron
i prefer the ju88a when it comes to both 88s. 16 bombs to spam infantry and bigger bombs to bomb tanks with
prime pine
Yeah im getting better with the 88C, the crit damage is massive.
You can deal 40 damage to a churchill and 50 to a valentine.
Per hit
steel agate
You drop meds and heal your squad mates (green, not blue)
versed frost
but i just have the bandage Pouch and Rifle Grenade for Medic?
icy sluice
Yes, use the pouch to heal your squad mate...
To get Squad Heals...
By default, the color should be green
versed frost
i dont understand why it still not work
icy sluice
Is the person hurt?
lavish raptor
is the stuka with the 1000kg good
coral fiber
Honestly when you're a lone wolf in the sky and there's a squadron on enemy fighters in the air working together
I rather stay on the ground tbh
That's my only weakness
peak stag
I just cant kill anyone as a bomber
sullen sonnet
then it becomes a lone fox
coral fiber
Yep
sullen sonnet
i feel ya
coral fiber
There are times where i somehow took some squadrons down
But i was lucky
coral fiber
Sometimes alone or with friends
Mostly alone
I've had an epic one tho
I took all 3 down in twisted steel once i had 7 hp when i was done
I felt so good until they spawned again tho
Lol
I just love intense dogfighting
When you and the enemy are both on fire with the siren blaring desperately trying to get on one's 6
Just awesome
steel agate
Remember, use your wingman as bait so you take the enemy fighters out š
simple roost
why doesnt this game work with mantle enabled when it was made for amd gpus which is what i have
it even worked for a long time with it on
coral fiber
https://www.reddit.com/r/PilotsofBattlefield/comments/d5tg22/such_an_intense_dogfight_i_had_here/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
This one was too epic and rewarding at the end
versed frost
Do you know what is revives in BF1
light raptor
Lee-Enfield OP
icy sluice
Wow, that's a first I've heard that actually
feral grotto
ok so, after playing few games on the big 30v30 mode on cod, i can say that who ever say (and i heard it on voip in game actually) that this is better than battlefield is either lying to himself or never played a battlefield game
echo turtle
It's dumb fun
feral grotto
dumb fun ? maybe.. good or better (equal maybe) than(to)? big fat nope
coral fiber
@feral grotto is it open now?
solid hinge
Yes
echo turtle
It's been for 2 hours
coral fiber
Ok
coral fiber
Imma check it out
feral grotto
its good for a free beta , lol
solid hinge
Have fun boss
feral grotto
only reason im getting it is for the single player tbh..
coral fiber
37 GB -_-
visual blade
Was playing on ps4. Pretty lit tbh
solid hinge
Yup same and for the spec ops
feral grotto
^
solid hinge
17 hours since tiggr said he had something to say
feral grotto
multiplayer is garbage...
coral fiber
What he say?
solid hinge
WHADDUP AULA
feral grotto
the "Battlefield" mode is awful..
solid hinge
he didnt say anything
coral fiber
Oof
solid hinge
he said he was gonna say something
coral fiber
Lol he didn't
feral grotto
and they fail on both sadly
coral fiber
Understandable
solid hinge
I can see the appeal of MW
feral grotto
only good thing i can really say about the game is that it runs smoothly on like..
i got like 200 fps on the big mode
solid hinge
The feel of the guns is pretty high up
visual blade
itās something different and Iām having a great time
solid hinge
I just found out Iāve a inner hatred of cod
feral grotto
other than that? yeah.. no
solid hinge
I dislike it though
feral grotto
the game feels heavy.. idk how to explain it
coral fiber
I heard the recoil is kinda bad
feral grotto
its like a struggle to aim and shoot
feral grotto
its awful pilot
coral fiber
Damn
feral grotto
overrated and overhyped atm
unless they somehow manage to magicly fix everything and change it
solid hinge
I heard good things about the sp
coral fiber
Was really hoping i would like this cod but I'll try the beta first
feral grotto
same
solid hinge
Letās hope itās gonna be bloody af
feral grotto
yeah.. take your time and don't rush buying it
visual blade
lmao try the beta and decide for yourself
solid hinge
The alpha was fun
visual blade
this beta sealed a pre order from me
solid hinge
Iāve it pre ordered on my acc
feral grotto
hitbox is awful.. and ttk is very random
solid hinge
Lmao
feral grotto
lol
visual blade
it is tho. Battlefield is a horrible state.
feral grotto
i had a guy after first round of the 30v30 on mic saying "much better than this battlefield shit"
solid hinge
2 different games brother
visual blade
plus cod fanboys but every cod game
feral grotto
im like.. dude..
solid hinge
the games are still fundamentally different enough
coral fiber
True
feral grotto
shame cod trying to imitate other games twice in a row now..
coral fiber
I mean i love playing bfv but eh
visual blade
so there isnāt a rivalry?
prime pine
My friends have said it was relatively over hyped
feral grotto
BR instead of SP last game..
solid hinge
Battlefield doesn't have reign as king of big player modes any more I guess
feral grotto
and now a battlefield mode
solid hinge
@feral grotto The cod developers arenāt creative enough. They copy paste shit since their futuristic cod games.
feral grotto
bf got 4 more players in a server Aula
and maps are way bigger
copy past themselves , yeah Musti
but last two is copying other games
solid hinge
I havent found a full server in bfv for a while
feral grotto
the LAV in the big mode on COD is a joke
solid hinge
Not because there aren't enough players, but the balancing doesn't exist
feral grotto
i find full servers all the time..
solid hinge
And they (3arch) remastered a shit ton of maps in bo4 and 3
echo turtle
You can damage it with bullets 
feral grotto
there are real LAV you can damage with 7.62.. but well you know
you cant blow it up by shooting it 100 times
and balancing does exists in a way..(people just leave games after pressing continue)
they should add a "next map: XXX" on the summary screen so people won't leave when the round starts
it won't help that much.. but it will be an improvement
tough lake
U can click on server info before the round ends and see
lavish raptor
so if youre soloin whats the best overall plane for ground/air on britain and german
tough lake
Mosquito i guess
solid hinge
Can I delete the beta? ššš
warped rivet
Stuka?
feral grotto
just ignore it , it wont hurt you
lavish raptor
which one
warped rivet
Mosquito without AT cannon is pretty gud
solid hinge
if you're not a fighter you can always be killed by a fighter
warped rivet
;(
solid hinge
mosquito is pretty neat though
warped rivet
Yeah it is a versatile plane
tribal cairn
It's a pain for me to level up planes
warped rivet
You guys remember the gud old day when 4000 lbs bomb could destrory sxxx out of wverythin?
tribal cairn
Vehicles in general, really
feral grotto
@lavish raptor spitfire with the 8 303 and 2 250 bombs..
And the first fighter on the German side with two missiles .
Have a radar on both
solid hinge
Spitfire VA has no agility enhancing spec though
tribal cairn
You know what would be a cool but not effective aircraft reinforcement?
The Meteor and Me 262
solid hinge
You'll be dunked on by a pilot with them
tribal cairn
The first, yes
feral grotto
No need that agility thing ..
You can out turn any plane if you're decent
tribal cairn
The Germans had about 3 Jet aircraft variants
The Salamander, Arado, and of course the Me 262
They even had a rocket propelled aircraft called the Komet
echo glen
Me 163 
tribal cairn
Yep
solid hinge
If you go up against a decent pilot they'll naturally have the advantage
bf 109 g2 is a sick plane though
feral grotto
Really depends on how good you are
solid hinge
if you're equal skill the plane with the ability to turn faster is gonna have the advantage
lavish raptor
im good and i play low sens with 400 dpi
tribal cairn
I once went up against a guy who had a bloody joystick
tribal cairn
His throttle control was godly
feral grotto
Depends on your skills more than how the other pilot is
feral grotto
Mosquito with the cannon is pretty good
solid hinge
depends what you're defining as best
tribal cairn
Mosquito is good when on the offensive,
tribal cairn
But defensive, it's only defense is speed
solid hinge
mosquito has some high firepower and the ability to damage everything
feral grotto
Fighters are best for soloing..
lavish raptor
not for tickets
feral grotto
You mostly soloing as other pilots usually ignore you being chased
tribal cairn
If only strafing runs were more effective
solid hinge
VB spitfire has some decent ground potential
feral grotto
They are very effective , eh
tribal cairn
I use the Mosquito to fire my guns at the ground, and I only get lousy damage, and that's when I'm out of bombs
feral grotto
Most kills I got in a single strafe was about 6 with a spitfire
solid hinge
the g2 can also damage ground but with less firepower
coral fiber
I always strafe with the g2
solid hinge
isnt the netcode wonderful
gusty zinc
slower clap
prime pine
Im still learning to strafe
coral fiber
Man I'm trying to download mw rn but my wifi said no lmao
feral grotto
It's easy to strife if you know enemy general location as in.. breakthrough camp spots
gusty zinc
cKy? You better listen to the band
prime pine
But i cant do it with the g2
feral grotto
And don't be afraid to get low while strafing
gusty zinc
Escape from Hellview or die.
prime pine
Been flying the mk1 have you ayla?
feral grotto
Not anymore, used to early 00,s
tribal cairn
I just need to level up vehicles quickly, and that alone is the most painful part of this game
gusty zinc
Not like overly amazing but-
tribal cairn
To level up at all, you gotta play like scum, really
gusty zinc
Yeah true ^
solid hinge
I can strafe with the mk1
prime pine
I got everything levelled up
solid hinge
but that's cause its magic
feral grotto
I still haven't leveled up the Brits bombers š
prime pine
So im happy
feral grotto
And some of the tanks
prime pine
Yeah the camera and its guns helps
feral grotto
Hate tanks
solid hinge
the most effective method to level some of the planes is to ram people
lavish raptor
whats the best neet plane tho
solid hinge
unironically
lavish raptor
i want something that smacks
prime pine
It serves as a basis for learning to strafe
solid hinge
n-neet?
feral grotto
Waiting for the Japs pilots to crash into things
solid hinge
The mk1 doesnt help me strafe because I still cant see what I'm shooting at
Guys
just have those glorious doritos on
Let me teach you something
Hold a frag in your hand
tribal cairn
They should just give you full ground radar as a plane
solid hinge
And just run up to people
tribal cairn
It's already tough as shit to see anything
tribal cairn
I swear, MG42s have that aura of Sweety fuck tits I need to keep my head down every time I encounter one at a chokepoint
solid hinge
i like pushing my luck with the p08c
tribal cairn
The amount of bullets coming at you at that speed and with that sound accompanying it,
solid hinge
can you burst me to death before i get 3 headshots on your proning ass
tribal cairn
You bet I'm gonna keep my head down
solid hinge
or if desperate you shoot a flare at them
tribal cairn
Also, if they are a good MMG Player, they'll crouch behind cover to use the bipod and keep side strafing
solid hinge
good for dislodging campers
solid hinge
Demon..
prime pine
They complained that i was using a something that required "no skill"
When ironically
The 88c requires skill
solid hinge
icy sluice
With how much I see 7MD clan people on Xbox, I won't be surprised if I get a message on Xbox or a ping here saying something
tribal cairn
Leading is pretty annoying as a plane in it's own right especially when the shells seem to just float above them instead of going ahead of them
I don't know if you encounter that,
But it's essentially my bane as a rear gunner
icy sluice
I once killed a pilot of a Spitfire as the bottom gunner of a JU-88A
tribal cairn
You ever do strafing runs as the ball gunner?
prime pine
Instead of cornfakes i have cheese toasties
Yeah raptor ive done the same to a dozen spitfires.
Posted this before but ill do it again
You have to be more acquainted with the shells themselves before anything
lavish raptor
i done fucked up and slipped up and fell in love with the panzer f2
untold wraith
Yikes, how do you keep getting so many kills?
Iāve never seen someone get that legit.
keen falcon
this guy I shot for 99 is lucky as hell
coral fiber
Honestly MW doesn't feel like bf at all
Just feels like a COD game
It ain't bad tho
I hate ground war
Killstreaks ruin it
Kinda makes bfv look better ngl
grand haven
I was hoping kill streaks would not be in ground war...
hybrid dock
why would it not
grand haven
Idk, just always hated the kill streaks in cod tbh. Was hoping it woud be toned down a little in ground war.
grand haven
I wouldn't know as I haven't touched CoD since the original Modern Warfare. Lol
hybrid dock
pretty sure it was in that
coral fiber
Yeah imma stick to bfv hehehe
I don't like mw
hybrid dock
it was definitely in mw2
grand haven
If it was, i only ever played team deathmatch anyway.
grand haven
Huh, I legit don't remember lol.
grand haven
Well, I guess I'm still gonna try the open beta cause why not.
hybrid dock
if you get to a certain rank you get a free shotgun at launch
grand haven
I most likely will not get near whatever than rank is lol.
hybrid dock
it's like lvl 10
hybrid dock
yikes
grand haven
Yeah, I detest college.
How's the population for BF4 in NA, anyone know?
As much as I enjoyed BF1, I can't go back to that for some reason after playing BFV.
coarse thunder
Depends what platform
Usually it's pretty ded in general except those 24/7 "Insert map" servers
grand haven
It would be PC, but if it's mostly 24/7 of the same map then oh well I guess.
echo glen
Nice
solid hinge
god knows why they made the UI and interaction have different values in the first place and didnt change it for Ten Months but hey ho
echo glen
Oh well 
dark sorrel
Man I deeply hate the revive animation thing for Medics anyway
Given that medic revivals are a rare thing in Battlefield anyway, the worst thing they could do is make the medic vulnerable for like four seconds whilst they do a long and uncancellable animation
As opposed to just prone syringing
solid hinge
you can technically cancel it
but 99% of the time you're dead if you get shot during it
dark sorrel
I'm also not keen on the melee kill animations as people are rarely alone and they lock you in place and vulnerable for like two seconds
It was the same in BF1 but the TTK was higher so you tended to survive melee killing someone more
solid hinge
I don't mind the revive animations cause I use bolts a lot and the revives are still quick enough to only shoot them once half the time
the melee executions are too long for certain
especially the back prone ones
i don't care if it looks cool when it takes like 6 seconds
6 seconds and they dont even die until the end of it
dark sorrel
Getting out of vehicles is probably the worst IMO as 90% of the time you're getting out of something because its under super heavy fire and you need to urgently repair it
solid hinge
honestly i like that one
dark sorrel
But the enemy get like a three second jump on you because you're unable to move, at a high point on the map and next to something that could potentially explode
solid hinge
stops people bailing super fast and slapping you before you can react
It's your punishment for letting your tank get beat up so bad
dark sorrel
I think they should keep the animation for transport vehicle passengers as they should be pulling up before the front line and they can fuck shit up
I guess, though I think I'm BFV tanks go from pristine to a flaming wreck so quickly you don't realise you're in danger
solid hinge
I think the tanks take too long to die honestly
Only fast deaths are from assaults standing next to you
Enemy tanks are a 4 shot kill minimum usually
combine that with glanced shots and quick repair
tribal cairn
I wonder, do you get vehicle xp for being a passenger or gunner?
It would make a nice edition for trying to level up planes and tanks
solid hinge
YO
I found a bug on console
Where do I go lmao
Someone enlighten me
Legitimately where do I go
ionic musk
peak stag
Will firestorm ever be free?
coral fiber
With EA in the mix?
Probably not
zenith pendant
@tribal cairn yes you do
All xp you earn in a vehicle (plane OR tank passenger) goes to that vehicle level
So if you are in a JU88C as a gunner, all those passenger assists go to level YOUR JU88C
unkempt dust
why would tiggr post that comment of "I'll give you my comment here in a bit. Watch this space." if he didn't have anything ready? like, WHY?
zenith pendant
Maybe it was shot down to prevent a disaster
At this point ANYTHING he says will be sharted on
It's just the reality of the BFV community
unkempt dust
yeah but why say it in the first place if he is not sure EA will green light it?
I know
I agree wholeheartedly .. the sub has become a toxic mess now
zenith pendant
I assumed he'd add it to the Letters from the Front
Not, like, make a reddit comment or post
unkempt dust
he said "watch this space" though
unkempt dust
if that, at least edit your comment to clarify it
zenith pendant
I thought this as "watch reddit for the Letters"
We know they'll come either today or early next week
unkempt dust
maybe, but the comment was needless if that.. they were preparing that LFTF anyway
gray glade
He's trolling us lol
I GOT SOME BIG NEWS COMING UP GUYS! Watch this discord real soon for more info!
unkempt dust
that's the thing. the community is already heated and they are in no position to make such silly mistakes.
gray glade
Yesterday all my troubles seemed so far away
zenith pendant
Except you don't get any points
When teammates spawn on you
They do plop into existence in the air
And you can hear the spawn sound even, like as if a squadmate spawns on you when you are infantry
They don't have the momentum of the plane when they spawn as well
I found that the best way to use this is to choose a place where you want your paratroopers to fall, and then fly vertically with minimal speed until you hit the skybox
I need to test it with a friend more, I wanna find out how it even looks on the spawn screen, and the borders at which it works
spring stump
Anyone wanna play Xbox
sacred jackal
solid hinge
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gray glade
which sight are y'all using for the breda?
untold wraith
Ironsights.
lapis hare
acogāish sights
untold wraith
If it aināt a sniper, I donāt put a scope on it.
prime pine
Scope
hybrid dock
scoop
gloomy kraken
3x
solid hinge
guys help?
how to make a gif?
solid hinge
#battlefield-legacy-titles but just type in gif maker into google
fluid tusk
the speculation and misinformation being thrown around is annoying]
Braddock literally said there would be no news this week, yet people are frothing at the mouths for something to hold on to
why is the reddit so shit?
solid hinge
Goddamn
Just played my first game of the 32v32 in the new cod
Battlefields in some real trouble if they cant get their shit together
tough lake
How is it anyclose to battlefield
solid hinge
Its pretty much battlefield 3 lmao
CoD has a real chance here to pull the casual audience thats unhappy with battlefields ridiculous state atm
untold wraith
The new cod is shit
solid hinge
Good enough to pull the casuals
untold wraith
It is just the same as all the others and offers no benefit over any of the others
It may pull casuals
But overall the gameplay isnāt anywhere near BFV
solid hinge
Bf5 gameplay barely even works
untold wraith
I completely disagree
solid hinge
I dont think the game has ever been in a state where an aspect of it wasnt broken
untold wraith
Maybe on PC
solid hinge
I wouldnt know
tough lake
I play on PC lol
solid hinge
I play bf5 on xbox
untold wraith
On console, it runs very smoothly
tough lake
It runs smoothly on PC too
ionic girder
Yeah, me too. I think it works very well. But also an Xbox player.
Going to try CoD today though.
tough lake
Beta is 40gb and i know i won't like it , couldnt be bothered
ionic girder
How does the squad system work?
untold wraith
I donāt like the gunplay
untold wraith
I donāt mind the hardcore.
I just hate how it handles.
It feels janky
Itās very arcade.
solid hinge
It is on the cod engine afterall
Really hoping dice gets their shit together
Dont want to buy a fucking call of duty to get what battlefield should offer
untold wraith
You donāt have to
BFV is great. If you donāt like it now, Just give it time to mature, happened with BF4
solid hinge
Problem is every bf game has had more done at this point in the life cycle
And bf5 hasnt had a time period where there wasnt an issue impacting the game negatively
- I dont want more tdm maps
orchid shore
but seeing how it's 2019 and we expected a better product 
plus DICE is like third-A developer that can't even keep up pace with two live-service games
with star wars, they are actually doing better than BFV of which they picked a shitty setting to do a live-service
solid hinge
Even that game had more to offer 10 months in
And it wasnt broken for that time period
It actually worked
orchid shore
it would've been fine if BFV was named something else like BF something something
upper plank
Sooo, DICE has stopped responding to r/battlefieldv posts.
orchid shore
tough lake
Who told u that?
solid hinge
Im guessing
2020 is around the corner so I reckon theyre just making the next bf game
tough lake
Friend using 'bf youtubers talking about new cod' as an arguement against gameplay
Tf is that
untold wraith
Lmao
solid hinge
I dont know if bf5 has a long way to go lol
Dice keeps saying thereāll be millions of maps and lots coming but weāre about to be over 10 months in and we have barely anything
untold wraith
Youāre pretty negative about the state of the game. Sure, it has its faults but itās actually a pretty good game.
solid hinge
Anthems got the same amount of content as bf5 lmao
amber notch
so none?
solid hinge
Yeah its a good game if it worked
But it hasnt worked properly since launch
So it isnt a good game
solid hinge
Every patch theres a bug that breaks the game
Last patch was hitreg
Invisible soldiers before that
Now its high ping
It just never ends
untold wraith
Never had any of those issues.
untold wraith
No I think itās just a vocal minority of complaining people on reddit
amber notch
when isnt reddit having a cry about something
solid hinge
When games work
amber notch
untold wraith
Lmao
amber notch
then according to your analogy no game works
solid hinge
How come
untold wraith
The Division 2 works but you still get people complaining.
solid hinge
Yeah but thats because the endgame doesnt work
amber notch
@solid hinge since you specifically stated that reddit doesnt complain when "games work"
reddit is always complaining
solid hinge
Generalizing
tough lake
Reddit is annoying when it comes to games
amber notch
therefore, your analogy is every game isnt working
untold wraith
Do you hate or like BFV?
solid hinge
Neither
untold wraith
I really canāt tell
solid hinge
I just want a game that works
untold wraith
How many hours you got?
barren nymph
I can say I love it
solid hinge
Somewhere around 400
barren nymph
proud to be the only one here
solid hinge
Xbox says 600hrs but bf5 tracker says 400 or so
Nothing wrong with liking the game
At least imo
tough lake
@amber notch fite me
untold wraith
I think a lot of people sink in hundreds of hours and complain there isnāt enough content.
amber notch
@tough lake sure, get escape from tarkov and ill show you what a real FPS game is
solid hinge
Content is subjective
rancid rivet
untold wraith
Hello
solid hinge
Iād just like for the game to work
Tired of waiting for that āfixā to make it a āgood gameā
fervent knot
Last time i played on PS4 i found a match pretty quick @rancid rivet
untold wraith
What is a āgood game that worksā?
solid hinge
The one where you dont have issues in every game
tough lake
@amber notch does it have vehicles?
solid hinge
Every match you see like 5 bugs
fervent knot
Patch 4.6 brings Operation Underground right?
solid hinge
Thats not a great experience
untold wraith
Lmao
tough lake
No not yet i think
solid hinge
@fervent knot wouldnt hold my breath
amber notch
@tough lake No, its a post apocalyptic survival fps
getting a massive open world mode pretty shortly that will implement all 12 maps
tough lake
@amber notch i mostly like battlefield for the vehicles
solid hinge
You like battlefield for the vehicles but yet say its the best game in the series despite backing down on vehicle gameplay and probably the worst vehicle balance in the whole series?
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amber notch
have you heard of tank bombing in bf3?
amber notch
if not, you dont know what balance in terms of vehicles is
formal valve
BFV vehicles are the worst vehicles Iāve seen in a battlefield game @solid hinge
tough lake
No but i heard of explosive spam in bf3
amber notch
@formal valve No, their attrition system is really good
solid hinge
Such as
formal valve
But the game is inferior to other games
tough lake
Bf3 also had bugs in the prone mechanism where u can noclip into walls
formal valve
BF3/4>BFV
amber notch
instead of someone sitting in an m1abrams bombing the fuck out of C flag without having to restock
solid hinge
Movement clearly
untold wraith
I mean like rolling and things, just so good
solid hinge
But what else
amber notch
yeah its a joke
formal valve
@amber notch itās not good
untold wraith
Gun play
formal valve
Attrition sucks ass
untold wraith
The recoil is predicable and you really get to learn your weapons
formal valve
Limits sandbox elements and player freedom
tough lake
Remove your nostaliga glasses and think about it
solid hinge
Gunplay is easier Iāll give you that
formal valve
@tough lake fuck off with the nostalgia shit
solid hinge
Thats two things and one of them doesnt really work
untold wraith
Squad revive.
formal valve
You donāt know what a good bf game is
amber notch
yikes
tough lake
I never played bf1
solid hinge
Cant experience good gunplay if hitreg is fucked / everyone has 100ping
formal valve
@solid hinge donāt bother with these guys
untold wraith
Squad revive promotes team play
solid hinge
Ehh idk about that but Iāll agree its a good addition
formal valve
The only good thing to come out of BFV is manual leaning and squad reviving
Everything else is ass
And the gunplay
untold wraith
People say attrition sucks but I like it, it add some realism, I donāt get magical auras of healing and ammo
formal valve
No
amber notch
yes.
solid hinge
I enjoyed attrition as well
formal valve
Gameplay>realism
untold wraith
Lmao why is picking up a med pouch so hard?
amber notch
one of the selling points of battlefield is its "realism"
tough lake
It removed the explosive spamming in the game
formal valve
No it isnāt
tough lake
Yes it is lol
solid hinge
They did market bf5 as the most immersive battlefield yet
formal valve
Yeah
amber notch
sitting in a tank at C flag bombing it to shit without having to reload or restock isnt balance
untold wraith
And attrition means you actually have to be conservative with your ammo so you donāt run out