battlefield-legacy-titles

[slim kindle]

y

[icy sluice]

I do hate it when modders think they're so cutting edge when they make an older game so performance heavy because of how much bloom, blur and dof effects they will put on

There's an infamous Doom II mod for just this reason too

[slim kindle]

lol

[indigo citrus]

hello

[night glade]

@icy sluice those shitty Skyrim "next gen" graphics videos

[icy sluice]

EXACTLY

I remember going back to see Doom 3 next gen graphics videos and man the walls just glowed because of how much bloom was on it

[lavish raptor]

ok i got 1108 kills on the zh29 what should i try and achieve

[night glade]

Those videos make me sad more than angry tbh

[solid hinge]

the battlefield beta is something

er

I mean cod

the bfv shotguns feel better

which I never thought I'd say

[lavish raptor]

on god

i reall.y really really like the zh29

[solid hinge]

I’ve 33,326 kills with the m1928a1 and I really really really hate it

[lavish raptor]

jees

what level are you

[solid hinge]

70

[lavish raptor]

hehe

[solid hinge]

[lavish raptor]

was bout to say

[solar blaze]

[lavish raptor]

[solid hinge]

I almost deleted the mw beta

im not liking it very much

And I thought the campers in bfv were annoying

the lmgs seem.. pointless

apart from for camping

the default bolt has a fuckin 3 second ADS time so everyone's camping with that

No one uses the lmgs lol

the shotguns have a 3 metre kill range

everyone's using ak47 and mp5

@solid hinge watch this 🤣 https://twitter.com/tmmplatoon/status/1172968291767336960?s=21

Everyone is using M13 and M8’s

[tribal cairn]

Maybe one day a game will make shotguns realistic

[hybrid dock]

literally no one plays with lmg

on cod

ever

[solid hinge]

Only noobs and trolls

[hybrid dock]

I've never played a cod and thought "yeah I'll take this lmg over an AR"

[solid hinge]

Ahhh good old bo2 days. Camping with the remington or lmg’s and assault shields.

jesus christ

the hipfire on the first shotgun literally doesnt consistently kill at 2 metres

[tribal cairn]

To be fair, shotguns shoot cotton candy beyond 5 meters

In most games anyway

[solid hinge]

this is more random than bfv shotguns in a game where the guns kill significantly faster

[hybrid dock]

hipfire isn't worth anything in mw

[tribal cairn]

And off topic: If Japanese soldiers don't Yell "TENNO HEIKA BANZAI" during a bayonet charge in the Pacific update, I will lose hope

[hybrid dock]

stop hipfiring

[solid hinge]

doesnt mean much when you ads either

it feels random

I've got ohk hipfire shots beyond 5 metres and then aimed failures on still targets within melee distance

this is wack

[steel agate]

That's why I shoot shotties until everything stops moving

😄

[solid hinge]

cant do that in MW

[steel agate]

oh MW

[solid hinge]

the pump action guns feel shitter than the semis in bfv

how AWFUL

[steel agate]

slower?

In BFV, the 1897 is already too slow for me lol

Can't wait for the slamfire with Ithaca 37 shotgun

[lavish raptor]

tbh wish there was a channel for posting specifically gaming related screenshots

[hybrid dock]

trench gun is supposed to have slamfire anyway

[lavish raptor]

some goofy shit goes down lol

[tribal cairn]

I'm still gonna stick with my Luftwaffe Drilling

[pastel grove]

tfw you can't equip Drilling on your German pilot

[tribal cairn]

That's a shame indeed

Since it was made as a survival rifle

You crash land in the wilderness or wherever,

Load up your drilling, and have a field day.

[steel agate]

I wonder if we're getting a sawed off 12G

It seems to be BF's thing

[pastel grove]

I would like any form of sawed-off

And also more than three shotguns

An overhaul on shotguns actually

Despite being there since launch, shotguns don't feel good as they should be

[tribal cairn]

Ehh, I'd suppose they could have a slight bit more range

But that's what slugs are for

[pastel grove]

That's true, but I hear they're inconsistent as fuck

[tribal cairn]

Well, when in doubt, just have your medic spam smokes and rush in during the Chaos

[solid hinge]

Yeah, but the thing is

Majority of the medics don’t use their fookin smokes

And they instantly revive me before killing the enemy or throwing their smokes on my body

[tribal cairn]

To be fair, those medics probably don't think that far ahead and only really clear anyone out that they can see or get shot at by

[solid hinge]

this feels like shot

goddamn

didnt think I'd actually prefer bfv

the worst shotguns I've ever felt in any game

they arent even secondaries

hyper accurate assault rifles and smgs shit on everything

this sucks

as shit as the bolts are in bfv at least I can fuckin use them

[tribal cairn]

It's call of duty, do you expect there to be weapon balance?

[solid hinge]

I hipfired at a dude, missed, killed the enemy behind him, then ADSed him and it didnt kill

bizarre spread on shotguns

[hybrid dock]

stop playing shotguns

[pastel grove]

bolt-actions are fucking shit with iron sights sometimes

[solid hinge]

feels like shit

i like shotguns

[pastel grove]

other than the Ross, the whole rifle just wobbles as you use the bolt

That's true

It's funny how good it is in the game considering how fucking janky it was irl

Yeah I remember the Huot

wasn't a bad LMG

Ross rifle should have a 30% chance of launching the bolt in your face

but what about the Huot?

Wasn't it also cheaper

I remember reading that it was fairly inexpensive

[soft storm]

How many days it’s been since the new weeklies

And I still can’t buy the damn AT gun

[pastel grove]

@soft storm I hear there's a 2-week wait

[solid hinge]

You're not missing anything

[pastel grove]

before you buy with CC

[solid hinge]

It's the boys with slower fire rate and a different reload animation

[pastel grove]

but with less reloads

95% of the time you will die before you ever reload

[soft storm]

Still don’t get why it’s a two week wait

Usually it’s ASAP after the weekly ends

Atleast last time this was relevant

[midnight nimbus]

@solid hinge yea CoD shotguns suck

referring to what you said above

except in BO4

also
@steady nymph Huot was probably the best LMG in BF1

doesn't matter how fast your gun shoots if spread and recoil stop it from landing its shots

[pastel grove]

Chauchat was best LMG

Madsen was also fun, can't wait for both to return

[rocky verge]

I dont know if it's me but when I fire the new AT rifle to get the 100m challange done it almost never hits then even when I aim spot on

[midnight nimbus]

nah Chauchat took fucking forever to get to minspread

and the 3BTK range sucked

[pastel grove]

Was always worth it since it hit like a truck

[hybrid dock]

chauchat but every time you dive into mud you have to clean it

[pastel grove]

The woes of being a French soldier in 1917

Chauchat but if you're an American, you load the wrong rounds in

[hybrid dock]

disassembling your gun every time a spec of mud gets anywhere near the mag

[midnight nimbus]

Burton > Chauchat

tbh

[pastel grove]

It's only a matter of time before DICE says "You fuckers want your immersion? Here's your immersion" and add mechanics where you have to clean your gun

[fathom pebble]

[solid hinge]

tfw not running into fights with my shitty dirty gun and stabbing people with the rusty bayonet

[tribal cairn]

If the bayonet doesn't kill them,

Infection/ Tetanus will

[lavish raptor]

meh

if i see my squad mate like right about to run out of time as medic

bet your ass im going raw fuck smoking

[steel agate]

gun jams

[hybrid dock]

games will take several irl days to complete

[tribal wave]

do any of u guys still play bf1?

[echo turtle]

What platform?

[echo turtle]

How many bodyshots upclose with the stg44 does it take to kill someone?

[prime pine]

So I finally got into the breda and its not as bad

Uh

I think its a 3-4HKO. Cant remember.

[echo turtle]

Hitreg must've been off the one night

Unloaded 10 rounds into a medic and he turned around and cut through me like a hot knife through butter

[young owl]

@echo turtle are you sure your ping wasn't a bit high?

[echo turtle]

Nah it was normal

[young owl]

Idk, stuff has been a bit whack lately

[echo turtle]

Seems pretty normal to get empty half a clip into someone for them to turn around and blast you in bfv

[prime pine]

So i touch the game again and i wonder.

What motive do People have to camp to corners or lay down in the middle of nowhere

Like....

Also you can shoot peoples arms and legs unintentionally. It happens.

[echo turtle]

I know but it was at a point blank range

Guess I'll hit up the shooting range once I get home and figure out the spread

[icy sluice]

This is a funny thing that happened earlier

[coral fiber]

The irons on the breda are pretty crisp

[molten violet]

Lol wtf

[misty plinth]

I like using single fire on the breda with a 3x but burst fire on the 3x wobbles like crazy

[versed frost]

Do you know what is this 10 circle?

[icy sluice]

10 circle?

[versed frost]

Can import the image?

Can not import the image

[icy sluice]

!!regular

[ruby trail]

The Regular role is earned by members who are active, welcoming and resourceful on the server.

[icy sluice]

Need to be a Regular to import images here

[versed frost]

Can I import the link?

[icy sluice]

Perhaps, if it's an imgur link

[versed frost]

Ok, wait a second

http://imgur.com/gallery/FOoNNOF

Here! I need to unlock the gun, but I don't know what is this 10 circle

[echo glen]

The image doesn't show up.

Please fix so we may see, thank you.

[icy sluice]

@versed frost You need to be level 10 as a Scout

[versed frost]

10 https://imgur.com/gallery/FOoNNOF

[icy sluice]

@echo glen It's because he isn't a regular, he won't have embedding

@versed frost That circle is the Scout's logo

[echo glen]

Yeah I know but when I clicked on link image wouldn't load

[icy sluice]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[echo glen]

Oh well

[echo turtle]

Spotting flares

Spotting

[icy sluice]

That helps as a Scout, yes.

[echo turtle]

Hang out around objectives

[echo glen]

Just PTFO

[echo turtle]

Find sweet spots with your weapon

[echo glen]

Maybe get a self-loading rifle

Easier for ptfo scouts

[echo turtle]

M1903 experimental

If you can't snipe this is pretty much your go to

If you have squad XP bonuses use them

Pop spotting flares on objectives with large groups of people

Scout is the easiest class to rank up

[versed frost]

@icy sluice how can i know what is the level that i achieved?

[echo turtle]

Should be top left in your customization ui

[icy sluice]

When you go into your Soldier Menu, you should go into Scout and it will show on the top right, on that menu that you took the picture I think it might be somewhere there as well

[proven hatch]

i honestly love my bf5 game being so stupid i have a different sniper set up for the pathfinder class and it wont switch to that other sniper LMAO

[versed frost]

OMG I found it

Thank everyone

i love you all 😗

[echo turtle]

[versed frost]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-hug-heart-love-gif-15034929

[lavish raptor]

105 and 1 6 on grand ops

[compact dune]

MY GOD!!!

I found the most fun loadout

[bleak cargo]

[prime pine]

Got my breda gold

[compact dune]

its the Breda m1935 Pg , the Mk VI revolver, the gadgets are the PIAT, I.G and the dynamite

[prime pine]

Fire bombs are straight up one of the best grenades.

[steel agate]

Smoke is the best grenade. Change my mind.

[icy sluice]

Smoke + P08 = feelsgoodman

One thing that's also good is Frags but you skeet shoot them

The best way to get rid of campers on the second story, or on a balcony

[prime pine]

I have kind of found a way to use smokes effectively.

[echo glen]

Smoke area and bumrush

[prime pine]

On the houses with stairs

Throw the smokes over them and smoke the room up. Then rush the area. It should work.

[solid hinge]

Hi

How is the player count in bf4

[echo turtle]

Pretty good

[solid hinge]

Compared to bfv?

Idk what to buy as they both on dal

Sale*

[echo turtle]

What platform are you on

[solid hinge]

Pc

[echo turtle]

How much are both of them

[solid hinge]

Bf4 is about $5

Bfv is about $20

[echo turtle]

BF4 still averages about 7,500 roughly on PC

[solid hinge]

And bfv?

[echo turtle]

Maybe 10k

Not really sure at this point

[solid hinge]

Ah

What is the better game

In your opinion

[echo turtle]

Mobility wise I'd say bfv

But BF4 content wise

[icy sluice]

BFV definitely has more than just 10k

[echo turtle]

They have 10,001

[icy sluice]

lol

[solid hinge]

Any micro transactions?

Where do u check this

I couldn’t find bfv player count

[icy sluice]

The microtransactions are all cosmetic in Battlefield V

[solid hinge]

Only bf1 and 4

[echo turtle]

Cosmetically

[solid hinge]

How bout 4

[icy sluice]

Basically, it's pay to look differently

[echo turtle]

BF4 has battlepacks

[icy sluice]

Battlefield 4 has a Season Pass

[solid hinge]

Eh

Don’t wanna spend more money

lol

Just wanna get the game

[echo turtle]

Which have XP boosts, knives, exclusive attachments and skins

Gold sets you bout 2-3 bucks back a pack

[prime pine]

If you buy bf5

Be warned.

[echo glen]

Campers

[prime pine]

Expect dice to fuck everything up and delay it

Theres no news on Private servers

Soooooo fun.

[solid hinge]

I am still deciding whether to get bfv or arma 3

Since they both currently the same price

And possibly Star Wars battlefront 2

[icy sluice]

They're all completely different games

[solid hinge]

Lol ok

IkI

Ik*

[icy sluice]

Battlefront 2 - The most arcadey
Battlefield V - Arcadey but feels really good with it's movement mechanics
Arma 3 - Extreme Realism, so much so that it can get quite frustrating

[fathom pebble]

when people ask the difference of BFV and Arma 3. One you can drive and use the tank cannon. In arma you have 0 UI as a driver. literally you have no fucking clue how to operate the tank and then you are teh commander sitting there doing the job of guiding your gunner, driver and at the same time talk with the rest of the platoons and squads

which in BFV is a no thanks and keep it simple and as arcadey

[tribal wave]

how do u get the wild eagle set in battlefield 5?

[icy sluice]

It should be in the Chapter 4 Starter Pack

[tribal wave]

we have to buy it?

[icy sluice]

At the current moment, yes.

[fathom pebble]

yeh

[icy sluice]

To be fair it is a total United States uniform, no doubt about it

[fathom pebble]

but maybe will soon be on the store was the same with previous ones

[icy sluice]

American Patch, Airborne Patch ( I think )... everything about it screams American

[tribal wave]

i am interested in how the new factions work

the countries changing will depend on the map probably?

[fathom pebble]

yes

[tribal wave]

ahh

[icy sluice]

Highly Possible

[tribal wave]

lol its a birthday today and i think i might get the new modern warfare

[fathom pebble]

wouldnt make much sense germans in the pacific and japanese in europe lol

[tribal wave]

*my

shud i get the new mw?

i heard its good

[echo glen]

Try beta first

Then choose whether to buy or not

[icy sluice]

I've heard people say it's dog shit and heard people say it's good

I won't touch it so I won't even have an opinion on the game itself ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tribal wave]

jacksfrags thinks its good

[fathom pebble]

Kinda wanna try it out, independant the reviews, mostly the fact what the game offers in terms of experience and even armory. Mostly aswell the variety of gameplay aswell

But yeh I wanna try out first then jsut go on the hype train

[tribal wave]

also i heard there is like a very large full war map with like 100 people and that would be great

[icy sluice]

Just one

[tribal wave]

yeah

[lavish raptor]

87 and 7 now and i leveled to 84

zh29 is op

idc what anyone says

its not balanced at fucking all

[tribal wave]

zh29?

isnt the sebslader better tho

the sebslader 1906

practically the same but with faster fire rate

[wispy timber]

why does no one play on xbox battlefield 😂

[young owl]

Cuz xbone sucks

[wispy timber]

u suck

[young owl]

And swallow* honey

[fathom pebble]

!!r1

[ruby trail]

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[wispy timber]

Welp what about playstation cuz i got both 😂

[fathom pebble]

you should read those just in case

[wispy timber]

@fathom pebble oh i did

[formal valve]

Lmao

[young owl]

YoUr NoT iN tHe RiGhT sEcTiOn

[wispy timber]

lol

[fathom pebble]

let me quote for you

[formal valve]

You’re not

[wispy timber]

let me not care

[fathom pebble]

"...platform bashing..."

[young owl]

Hold on bud

Do I care?

[formal valve]

Let you get muted please

[icy sluice]

Platform Bashing is a sin on this server

[wispy timber]

and i didnt bash @fathom pebble

[formal valve]

Dread did

[icy sluice]

Yeh
https://discordapp.com/channels/140933721929940992/177094649473794049/622648311668801577

[fathom pebble]

@wispy timber not talking to you

[young owl]

But like, I dont care lmao this server lame anyways

[fathom pebble]

you can always leave

[wispy timber]

lol

[prime pine]

Selbstlader 1906 has more killing power technically while the ZH has a quicker reload with its mags.

[icy sluice]

I like using the P08 still

[formal valve]

I love when people come in here and ignore the rules

Then get muted a while after

[prime pine]

So i think i may actually start maining the Bread on my Assault.

[young owl]

But like @fathom pebble if I left, then I wouldn't be able to talk to you, and i love you

[prime pine]

No typo. The breda is bread.

And everyone loves bread.

[icy sluice]

Let's get this bread

[formal valve]

Esterday I tried saying “the Breda is nasty”

But it autocorrected to “this bread is tasty”

[prime pine]

Hah.

[fathom pebble]

Cool, but this is the Battlefield channel not the meet&dump channel

[prime pine]

It is a nasty gun. I gotta play it out like the mini bolt actions & not rush.

[young owl]

@fathom pebble you cant play off my love for you

[prime pine]

Infact its a bit more capable than them.

This shit is weird

[fathom pebble]

and again, not either here to discuss what you care or not for me.

[wispy timber]

@fathom pebble U aint even a mod 😂

[fathom pebble]

not anymore

[wispy timber]

this some funny shi

[fathom pebble]

and can't be for now

[young owl]

@fathom pebble you'll forever be in my heart, however, it does seem that you have lack luster comebacks

[wispy timber]

y cuz u suck to ?

lmao

jk

[fathom pebble]

no, because I got witch hunted and thats not really a matter of discussion

[wispy timber]

ahh

[prime pine]

What the fuck

[formal valve]

@fathom pebble don’t deal with these brainlets lmao

[wispy timber]

idk what that means cuz im dumb

[formal valve]

You’re better than this

[fathom pebble]

@formal valve Like I would care tbh. Literally just dab on them 😂 👌 👉 🔥

[formal valve]

Lmao dead meme

[fathom pebble]

actually auto muted by the bot

[formal valve]

[fathom pebble]

another easy catch bois

[echo glen]

Oof

[fathom pebble]

anyways so this week chapter 4 ends and nothing will happen for like 2 weeks

till chapter 5

[formal valve]

More like a month or so

They said it’s not coming till late October

[fathom pebble]

yeh till pacific or the metro map

[icy sluice]

Datamines suggest something happens between these two chapters

[formal valve]

Yeah

[fathom pebble]

we'll see

[slim kindle]

wat are u guys talking bout

[fathom pebble]

tbh kinda wanna see they are gonna do

[slim kindle]

with BFV

[fathom pebble]

rn my schedule for BFV is basically every thrusday then jump to other games with more interesting content

[slim kindle]

i just played bfv multiplayer for the first time yesterday

i thought it was pretty good

[tribal cairn]

I've been switching between Arkham Knight and BFV for the past two weeks

[icy sluice]

The only games I've touched other than BFV was Far Cry 5 and DooM and those were like 1 hour or so

[slim kindle]

i played squad conquest

[fathom pebble]

idk something with BFV for me makes it feel boring after like 3-4 rounds of CQ

[slim kindle]

i feel that with bf1

[fathom pebble]

its like do TOW, then I'll be back next week

I enjoyed BF1 more idk

[slim kindle]

i dont enjoy bf1 that much anymore

[icy sluice]

BF1 was fun when I was absolutely slaughtering the enemy with high RPM guns

[slim kindle]

im gonna play bfv for a few weeks before i decide if im gonna back or not

[fathom pebble]

I mean BF1 maps were more interesting by its 1 year

you had the french ones and the tsar ones were coming out

[slim kindle]

i love the bf1 dlc's tho

i played marita and this other map

[fathom pebble]

I mean they are fun but its only small game modes

[tribal cairn]

I'm not the biggest fan of Marita

[slim kindle]

sam

same

[tribal cairn]

Lots of bush campers

[fathom pebble]

meanwhile conquest only got 2 maps added since release

[slim kindle]

lol

i only played like 3 different maps

yeh

[fathom pebble]

kinda wanna see what they'll do with chapter 5

else I'll be digging cod and D2 more

[soft storm]

Here’s what they’ll do with Chapter 5

The bare minimum

[untold wraith]

I like marita

[soft storm]

And maybe they’ll be like “oh hey guys uhhhhh al Sundan is done lmao”

[fathom pebble]

I mean Al-sudan rn is non existent

[soft storm]

But other than that don’t expect anything jaw dropping

[fathom pebble]

aside in small game modes

but I mean the map was supposed to be a thing for conquest

[slim kindle]

wdym

[prime pine]

And breakthrough i believe

Al sundan was supposed to be released on conquest. For fuck knows how long. Three months. It hasen't shipped out for it.

[slim kindle]

im oc i could only find a few OC servers

[prime pine]

The only game modes is has been released for is tdm and squad cronk.

Cause the bug doesnt exist there.

We could have a 24/7 frontlines playlist for it and see if it works. Just anything on a larger scale than this shit.

[fathom pebble]

Limited timed gamemodes is just boring

literally idk why its a thing

[warm atlas]

Conquest has gotten 3 maps since release.

Panzerstorm was post release

[prime pine]

Mercury was a release on may

Marita was july

[midnight nimbus]

conquest absolutely BTFOed

[prime pine]

Forgot what we got this time

Oh wait

Two squad conquest maps that the main playerbase isnt interested in.

[fathom pebble]

biggest game mode of interest is conquest
DICE only releases 3 maps since its release
1 year later

[prime pine]

Going back to bf5 allowed me to collect what the sort of game it is.

Its a mess of an attempt with "live service" and false advertisement. Co op was to be something bigger, Boins was handled terribly, chapter 4 was a fucking mess.

Like shit. We have no news on private servers soooooo.

[fathom pebble]

[solid hinge]

nothing much has come from that trello board yet

[fathom pebble]

I mean the trello board is recent

since for example al sudan there hasnt been recent news about its state

[solid hinge]

It doesn't feel recent

[fathom pebble]

think the trello was posted for the first time for everyone like 2 weeks ago or so

I mean its a way to point and organize all the things up to time with the game

news, releases, announcements, whats happening that week, the problems

since there's alot of stuff

[cold trail]

They updated Trello today I thought?

Someone was mentioning it earlier, I hadn't checked myself.

[fathom pebble]

Could be pinned here 😛

https://trello.com/b/yT9nj2yn/battlefield-v-quality-of-life-tracker

[cold trail]

@slim kindle Ask in #technology

[dark sorrel]

Yeah BFV's post launch development process is a mess, which is especially egregious after how well most the BF1 stuff was put together

Only BFV expac I wasn't super keen on was Apocalypse because it didn't support the narrative operations but that's just personal preference

[bleak cargo]

i just wanna shoot people. if they can just keep that up i prolly wont mind

idk if i should have high expectations for battlefield anymore or not

[slim kindle]

i still do a lil bit..

[prime pine]

And thats great to have hope.

Im envious of the people who have hope.

The pacific theatre will be a fuck fest. Just watch.

Guess if i had to rank the BREDA as it is... Maybe an A-?

Its a very strong weapon but it suffers a lot.

[lavish raptor]

ay last game of day got 105 kills 17 d

gn bois

[quartz steppe]

If BF V could be in development more, like 1 year more, it will be a way better, but EA said: U RELEASE IT NOW, I DONT CARE

[grand haven]

EA is going to eventually have to care if their games keep releasing in these states.

Then again, they have more than enough money and probably never will.

[upper plank]

Nah. There will always be dumb shits that will buy their games and use their parents' credit card to buy microtransactions.

I hope the UK at least gives them a kick in the teeth when they change the definition of gambling there.

[midnight nimbus]

is BFV really in a better state now than it was at release? 🤔

it's definitely not in terms of PC performance stability

I was getting anywhere between 22 and 131 fps last night

it's not

for a 2070

even people with 2080 (Ti) have trouble breaking 144

fucking 22 fps though

I don't think another year would've saved BFV

if anything, it would've given DICE more time to ferment their shit ideas

[upper vault]

Hm.

[midnight nimbus]

like their multiple shit TTK experiments

[upper vault]

What’s more interesting is the fact that

[midnight nimbus]

fuckhuge ADS times as well

[upper vault]

RTX on Low still hits about 70 FPS

On a 2080

Sometimes even to 60

Super sampling and RTX is a good way to obliterate FPS

I’d rather super sample tho, imo

[unkempt dust]

@steady nymph I just hope when PS5 / new Xbox launch they patch BFV to unlock framerate or benefit in any way from the new consoles

[midnight nimbus]

Stodeh said MW plays at 100 fps with RTX on, but didn't specify anything past that

no mention of hardware or res

but RTX is such a new technology

I didn't expect it to work well in BFV anyways

[quartz steppe]

Unlock FPS on consoles? Like to 120+?

[midnight nimbus]

as if they'd even hit that

[unkempt dust]

nope. definitely not.

[midnight nimbus]

most drop frames like crazy from 60

[upper vault]

That’s probably because CoD RTX is on shadows

[unkempt dust]

120+? I would not even think of that

[quartz steppe]

Right now PS4 runs BF V in 60 fps, but in Conquest and Operation in 30

[midnight nimbus]

I heard Apex Legends even drops to 30-40 pretty often on the non-X Xbox One

[unkempt dust]

yeah. consistent and stable 60 FPS and much faster load times is all I am asking

[quartz steppe]

Apex aleays lags on PS4 Pro, on PS4 Slim i don’t have this problem

[midnight nimbus]

and next gen console is on some kind of cut down 5700-based APU-esque solution

[unkempt dust]

PS5 is reumored to be a beast so should be able to do that

[midnight nimbus]

so it's not like that can hit 120 on anything either

not in 1080p at least

[quartz steppe]

BF V on PS4 right now runs at 60 fps at almst every mode, except biggest ones.

[unkempt dust]

I am on PS4 Pro and my console sounds like a jet engine on the games menus screens

[upper vault]

Grind on Xbox is chaos

Stutters and frame drops

[quartz steppe]

PS4’s BF V uses 980p if im right

[unkempt dust]

1080 @ stable 60 FPS

nothing more

[quartz steppe]

Im always compare games on PS4 and most powerfull PC, so i can tell you something about graphics

[unkempt dust]

the frames drop when there is a ton of shit happening

[midnight nimbus]

I play on all minimum settings anyways

idc about graphics in a PVP game

[upper vault]

Personally I do care,

[unkempt dust]

I do

[upper vault]

But that’s just an opinion.

[midnight nimbus]

rather get all the advantages i can over the game looking pretty

being able to see idiots proning in bushes is nice

[unkempt dust]

playing a good looking game > 3 extra frames for me lol

[quartz steppe]

As i see BF V at PS4 Slim runs at 980p upscaled to 1080p, 60fps but not everywhere, medium-high settings, lowest AA

[upper vault]

RTX is like: Playing a good looking game > Losing 60 FPS

Not kidding

[coarse thunder]

Part of the reason why I was so blown away by bf1s visuals over recent cods tbh

[quartz steppe]

difference between lowest and ultra settings in BF V are just density of grass, effects and texture qualiy

[upper vault]

I always expected devastation to be the most “FPS” demanding map

[midnight nimbus]

TAA fix is what makes this game playable imo

[upper vault]

But it was Narvik

[midnight nimbus]

removes all the blurriness

but LOD and textures get fucked

[unkempt dust]

that should be arras..

[quartz steppe]

RTX is a monster that burns your system down, it doesn’t worth it right now

[midnight nimbus]

with is hilarious

[quartz steppe]

LODs on PS4 are just a joke

[midnight nimbus]

and there's a few NVIDIA settings tweaks that are allowed that fuck up LOD and textures even more

not roblox mode good

[quartz steppe]

You see some trees pixilated at 50 meters away

[midnight nimbus]

but they're nice to have

[unkempt dust]

I like to blame my lack of piloting skills in BFV to the LOD

[midnight nimbus]

idk anyone that plays on anything higher than minimum settings on PC

[unkempt dust]

you can't see soldiers on the damn ground while flying

lol

[midnight nimbus]

you don't need to with Ju88

[quartz steppe]

BF V is a very bad optimized game

[upper vault]

cough

[coarse thunder]

Some guy potatoed his settings so hard that everyhting was a solid texture

[upper vault]

Roblox mode I guess

[unkempt dust]

that's why I said I hope it gets patched when new consoles are released

[coarse thunder]

Like an area with waist high grass became just green hills

[unkempt dust]

he got banned for that right?

[quartz steppe]

I tried to potato my graphics and im succeed

[midnight nimbus]

yeah I've played with that

it's really nice

before they started banning people

[coarse thunder]

It's tantamount to cheating yeah

[quartz steppe]

Anticheat thinks that driver settings are cheat

[midnight nimbus]

https://youtu.be/SqMkpZVUbXI

[coarse thunder]

Since you can see people so far and those genuinely using the grass and shit as cover

[midnight nimbus]

imo, cover shouldn't be penetrable in FPS

[quartz steppe]

Oh god, my games in the nutshell

[upper vault]

Meanwhile BFV rendering issues don’t allow you to see the grass far away.

[midnight nimbus]

you shouldn't be able to sit in something, be invisible, and do damage

[upper vault]

Not even sandbags

[unkempt dust]

I actually like that some covers are and some are not

[midnight nimbus]

with the right user.cfg you can still get a lot of the advantages though

which is nice

[unkempt dust]

killing that guy hiding behind the wooden fence in aerodrome with MG bullets never gets old

[midnight nimbus]

some of the command lines don't really let foliage render in properly

[quartz steppe]

This kind of graphics can be achieved with nvidia driver settings

[unkempt dust]

and that's why I like my console. no user.cfg or any of that

[quartz steppe]

But as i understand, it ruins HUD too

[unkempt dust]

maximum you run into is some tryhard using a M+KB emulator

[midnight nimbus]

only the TAA fix command does

[unkempt dust]

and those are not prevalent at all

[midnight nimbus]

it also ruins cosmetics and soldier customization which is hilarious

all the faces look the same

[quartz steppe]

Oh, i just got my BF 1 installed finally! Love this game!

[midnight nimbus]

only the shiny gun skins look that different

I love the TAA fix command line

user.cfg redeems BF for me

i'd probably hate the game without it

there's so many useful tweaks

[quartz steppe]

User.cfg can give you all the “LATER” content that DICE delayed or canceled?

[midnight nimbus]

idc about content

a game with good gameplay is fun regardless of the amount of content

which uh isn't necessarily all BF games

[quartz steppe]

I just need Iwo Jima it’s all i need from this game to be happy

[misty plinth]

wake island >>>

[quartz steppe]

Iso Jima and Operation Underground!

And wake island too ofc

[stoic breach]

The gameplay is gonna ruin the new maps for you

[unkempt dust]

I don't think many people disagree that gunplay and movement in BFV are top notch

better than have ever been

[midnight nimbus]

gunplay in BFV sucks ass

so does movement

[misty plinth]

Nope lol its the best

[midnight nimbus]

movement is dogshit slow compared to BF4

[misty plinth]

in the series by far

[stoic breach]

Operation Underground is gonna be Operation MMG

[midnight nimbus]

it's the same movement speed as BF1, but with minor tweaks to acceleration

[unkempt dust]

ok. that's your opinion. I don't agree though.

[midnight nimbus]

so you can change speed marginally faster

[upper vault]

Operation Bipod: MMG paradise Vol. 1

[misty plinth]

BF4's gunplay feels like trash cause the bullets go away from your crosshair when spraying almost RNG

[midnight nimbus]

but it's quite literally the same sprint and walk speed

[unkempt dust]

jumping from the edge of a cliff into a balcony to flank a camper says otherwise

[quartz steppe]

@stoic breach as each other Operation Locker like maps

[midnight nimbus]

BFV gunplay is just braindead af

[misty plinth]

Yeah the vaultin and shit is way better

[midnight nimbus]

but not braindead enough to be fun

lack of centered reticle is garb

[unkempt dust]

and crouch sprinting...

[quartz steppe]

BF V gunplay is like: See enemy, aim, die bcause of ping issues, respawn, loop

[midnight nimbus]

so much horizontal recoil

[misty plinth]

Learn to control it

[midnight nimbus]

replace spread with screenshake, epic

[misty plinth]

the older games have horizontal recoil as well

[stoic breach]

You cant control horizontal recoil

[misty plinth]

its just not displayed in the game

[quartz steppe]

I hate that they deleted ping stabilization or something it was called

[midnight nimbus]

BFV just has the most horizontal recoil in the series

[misty plinth]

you absolutely can

[midnight nimbus]

kek

[misty plinth]

it doesnt though

[midnight nimbus]

it's quite literally random

[misty plinth]

it just dispalys it for you

[midnight nimbus]

it's a number line with even distribution

[misty plinth]

the older games dont display the horizontal recoil

[stoic breach]

Spray patterns in the game are just recoil bias, its still completely random

[misty plinth]

they have weird visual recoil

[quartz steppe]

BF V gunplay is now based on random spray and recoil

[midnight nimbus]

BFV still has spread

like

[misty plinth]

except its not rando mat all

[midnight nimbus]

it's just displayed as additional horizontal recoil

equally random, better visualized

that's all

[coarse thunder]

It's not rando, just look at bf1s aptly named random bullet deviation

[misty plinth]

in BF4 bullets go away from where your crosshair is pointed

[quartz steppe]

BF V Beta’s gunplay was the best from all the BF Series, but they broke even those that was working excellent!

[midnight nimbus]

where's my wojak emoji when I need them

[unkempt dust]

[stoic breach]

"Random bullet deviation" is the excuse people use to justify magdump

[misty plinth]

The gunplay absolutely isnt random

people are quite literally making things up here lol

[unkempt dust]

I agree with fallens

[misty plinth]

look into how the game works its not random at all

[unkempt dust]

it's like we are not playing the same game lol

[coarse thunder]

P sure dice themselves called it rbd

[misty plinth]

you guys just seem "mad cuz bad"

its literally not random

[unkempt dust]

not necessarily. I am pretty bad myself lol

[midnight nimbus]

go into BFV files

[stoic breach]

Its completely random

[misty plinth]

"go into BFV files"

lmfao

[midnight nimbus]

see lines with dispersion values

kek

[unkempt dust]

dispersion != randomness

[midnight nimbus]

uhhhhh

[misty plinth]

Dispersion can be countered m8

[midnight nimbus]

that's exactly what dispersion is

it's spread

[unkempt dust]

no one said no gun has spread

[upper vault]

What if the wind on the map has an effect on the bullet spread?

[quartz steppe]

Two opinions, no one can tell the facts... Im gonna record a lot of footage of BF V guns and send to ya, you will tellwhat u think

[midnight nimbus]

well a component of spread at least

[unkempt dust]

it's not random and can be countered so is hrec

[misty plinth]

All I know is I have a 2.5 KD and this is the most consistent battlefield ive played

[midnight nimbus]

hrec is equally random as spread though, simply has a different distribution

[quartz steppe]

I really want to be not right, but i noticed, that it’s really random

[misty plinth]

every other game has horrible nonsense

[stoic breach]

Every other game just doesnt shake your screen to show spread

[misty plinth]

Because it doesnt display where your bullets are going

[stoic breach]

Without spread-to-recoil conversion in BFV, it'll be the same

[misty plinth]

BFV does it like counter strike does which igives you more information

it lets you understand where your bullets are going

[midnight nimbus]

yeah if you run an auto click macro, your bullets deviate from your point of aim just like every other BF

bc spread to recoil conversion doesn't work on the first shot

[misty plinth]

in BF4 you spray and bullets LITERALLY dont follow the crosshair

thats stupid as fuck

you could have you crosshair onsomeone and youd miss

[stoic breach]

Thats more realistic

[midnight nimbus]

that's how guns work

lmao

[misty plinth]

lmao

battlefield isnt realistic lmao

[midnight nimbus]

that's how most FPS games work

[misty plinth]

never use realism argument for BF

that a shit argument

[stoic breach]

[midnight nimbus]

it stops reeeeeeeeee magdump from being the only way to play

[misty plinth]

you can be revived after being shot in the face

[midnight nimbus]

that's why CS uses spread as well

[quartz steppe]

BF is a game, it shouldn’t be real, it should be FUN

[midnight nimbus]

without it, you get R6S gunplay

or CoD gunplay

which isn't necessarily a bad thing

[misty plinth]

you can absolutely spray in CS

if you're not a shitter

[midnight nimbus]

it's just super ezmode

yes, CS spraying is a viable method of play

[misty plinth]

Ive played mainleague in CS for 5 years

[midnight nimbus]

it's not the only method of play

without spread, there'd be no reason to go for one taps in CS

[misty plinth]

Yes there is

[midnight nimbus]

which has a shit ton of random spread btw

[misty plinth]

1 taps kill faster

spraying is slower

you always aim for headshots and spray after

[prime pine]

I just ruined some bombers 59-0 killstreak while in the mosquito

[misty plinth]

thats how every top player plays

[quartz steppe]

What about BF 1 gunplay?

[misty plinth]

BF1 gunplay is the worst in the series

by far

[prime pine]

I sadly have to agree with that

[stoic breach]

BF1 gunplay doesnt violently shake your screen with recoil

[prime pine]

The rest of the game was fine except the gunplay

[misty plinth]

the only thing that feels good in that game is bolt actions

[prime pine]

The automatico felt good

[quartz steppe]

I think it’s not the worst, but in the bf series, yes, it is

[midnight nimbus]

> BF1 gunplay is the worst in the series
someone didn't play BF before BF3

[stoic breach]

BF1 gunplay is generally anti-magdump

[misty plinth]

BF1 gunplay is casual

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 gunplay is anti tap

[misty plinth]

just like the entire game

[midnight nimbus]

CaSuAL

[misty plinth]

Behemoths and elite classes

[quartz steppe]

I like BF 1 gunplay, but i can’t feel it and it’s a bit too casual

[prime pine]

Bad cos gunplay was prettyalright

[misty plinth]

BF1 was shit

[midnight nimbus]

what on earth does "casual" even mean for a game lol

[misty plinth]

Behemoths ruin the entire flow of the game

elite classes as well

[midnight nimbus]

like any game can be played as casually or as hardcore as you want

[misty plinth]

Casual means you have a low skill ceiling

like BF1

nade spam

gas spam

[upper vault]

Rip.

[misty plinth]

behemoths

elite calsses

[upper vault]

We are getting the flame thrower probably for pacific

[misty plinth]

none of those things took skill to use

[upper vault]

So we might see an elite class, squad reinforcement, or normal class for the flamethrower

[unkempt dust]

I can't wait for my FPS to tank when 5 people are firing flames!

lol

I hope no elites get added

[midnight nimbus]

""""skill""""

[misty plinth]

all I know is that if BF1 and BF4 had as little content as BFV has I wouldnt have played those games as much as I have BFV

BFV is carried by its gameplay

BF1 and BF4 are carried by their content

[midnight nimbus]

wat

[upper vault]

BFV has more content in some areas

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats why hardcore players love BFV right

[midnight nimbus]

BFV vehicle gameplay is just

whew

[stoic breach]

Cause of the gameplay

[misty plinth]

eh just more vehicles

[quartz steppe]

Is there anyone looking for BF
3 platoon on PS3?

[upper vault]

Yeah

[misty plinth]

BFV's gameplay trumps any other in the series

[upper vault]

And more cosmetic content

[misty plinth]

no explosive spam or stupid shit like ucavs

[midnight nimbus]

yes, that's why the entire competitive scene died

[echo glen]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

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[echo glen]

@quartz steppe

[misty plinth]

BF is not competitive

[midnight nimbus]

because the gameplay is so good

[misty plinth]

never has been

[unkempt dust]

BF4 is still my favorite just because I had so much free time on my hands back then and played with my friends almost all the time and there was just so much content to grind

[misty plinth]

it died because there is no private servers KHT

[quartz steppe]

Oh, thanks

[echo glen]

👍

[midnight nimbus]

yes, the entire ESL scene didn't exist

[misty plinth]

KHT theres no private servers

thats why it died smart one

[upper vault]

BFV will eventually get content

[midnight nimbus]

that's hardly why none of those players even want to play the game for fun

[misty plinth]

you quite literally cant have a scene if you dont have private servers

[midnight nimbus]

you can't get a scene if none of your players want to play lol

[misty plinth]

Dude no one even cares about competitive battlefield lol

never has either

[unkempt dust]

delayed content in a good base gamplay will eventually get there

[misty plinth]

BF isnt an esport

[upper vault]

Yeah.

[midnight nimbus]

people who won money and had large streams for events could've said otherwise

[unkempt dust]

bad gameplay will never be resolved with any amount of content

[misty plinth]

in order to make BF an esport you have to take away what makes battlefield unique

[midnight nimbus]

it had potential

[upper vault]

It was trying to be actually, considering the 5v5 mode

But it got cancelled

[quartz steppe]

I like firestorm, i think it’s best Battle Royale so far, but it still have bugs

[misty plinth]

and it becomes some generic trash

[midnight nimbus]

also why all the top vehicle players avoid BFV like the plague

top vehicle gameplay rite

[misty plinth]

No one is playing BF1 or BF4 anymore those games have like 2 servers a piece in my region

BF4's playerbase is so dead the battlelog is faking player counts

they say they have 60 players but all the servers are empty when you join

[midnight nimbus]

server seeders have always been a thing lol

since the beginning

[misty plinth]

in BFV there are 13 full servers in my region right now

in BF4 there is 1 and 1 is half full

[unkempt dust]

there will always be the eventual locker 1000 tickets grind servers.. other than that not much

[misty plinth]

in BF1 there is a single server

[stoic breach]

Thats cause BFV is a hive of clan sweat most of the time

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 is still plenty playable in NA PC

[misty plinth]

Half the servers are faked player counts KHT

[midnight nimbus]

overly RSP infested

but playable

[fringe juniper]

Hello everyone, welcome to our cosy server
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[midnight nimbus]

bruh just use the true player count plugin

no more seeders

[stoic breach]

!!r1

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[stoic breach]

@fringe juniper

[misty plinth]

also you cant unlock half the shit anymore in BF4

since it relies on certain game modes

[coarse thunder]

I too love Kazakhstan servers

[midnight nimbus]

good thing the best guns are base game 🙂

and you can still unlock all the vehicle shit

[prime pine]

Ace 23

The AWS wasn't a bad lmg.

[midnight nimbus]

actually L85A2 is DLC

but I'm pretty sure the unlock was ez

[misty plinth]

all the BF4 servers are like trash in NA lol

metro

goldmud

and infantry only

wow what great servers

[midnight nimbus]

still plenty of based Zavod

[prime pine]

Imagine trying to fly your helicopter but your fucking controller dies on takeoff.

[misty plinth]

Theres quite literally no good BF4 servers playable right now

they are all one map or infantry only

BF4 is dead dude

[midnight nimbus]

instant vehicle respawn vq37 shit

MAA whoring 😍😍😍

[stoic breach]

[midnight nimbus]

and there's still plenty of TDM rotations

aka bestmode

[coarse thunder]

Codmode

[stoic breach]

Honestly I prefer TDM in Battlefield over CoD

2v2 gunfight though

[midnight nimbus]

why is CoDmode a bad thing

BF4 TDM is great

not as good as domination

but pretty fun

[coarse thunder]

Because I'd be playing cod instead if I wanted tdm

[stoic breach]

Its TDM with BF gameplay though

Not like BF TDM removes squadplay or anything

[midnight nimbus]

and BF4 movement 😍

I will say that BFV TDM sucks though

still more fun than conquest but kinda meh

it was fun running it with friends and running train on people

[stoic breach]

I just used Boys AT in TDM when I played it

Nothing like making the enemy team want to leave

[midnight nimbus]

TDM is fun when you can push and control spawns

less bullshit than conquest where you can have insane games and still lose bc your team is potato

[stoic breach]

Yeah that makes sense

I don't think I ever really pushed enough to do that

[midnight nimbus]

BFV is much less painful if you have friends who know how to coordinate in VOIP

but i don't think I'll ever play solo

or with any less than 2 friends

[prime pine]

I play alone

A lot

[little raptor]

God I miss having a good subreddit to shitpost in

[gray vine]

I just put my dick in a bag of doritos

[little raptor]

^

now bend down carefully

or find a good BRO to come help you out

[gray vine]

It's all good just say no homo

[little raptor]

My favorite romance novels is two incredibly straight, hetero sexual gamer bros being all bro and passing the controller woah bro youve got a boner

bro wanna play call of duty

bro do you mean like

fuck

ok jokes aside, I miss having a good subreddit to shitpost in

I had so many good stupid image memes

[hybrid dock]

leddit

[little raptor]

but the BFV sub is like, the greatest tragedy of FPS history

[prime pine]

The subreddit or the game?

[ionic girder]

@midnight nimbus I almost always play with a full squad communicating. Not VOIP, but in Xbox parties, or Discord if I had a PC that wasn't potato.

It's a lot of fun when you have people that coordinate.

I'm actually building the 14DI around that philosophy.

[stoic breach]

BFV was practically made with the expectation that every random player would coordinate with the same effectiveness as clan players

[sonic rampart]

Lmao

[stoic breach]

[forest kiln]

Martiny Henry (bf1)=phantom bow (bf4)

[native mural]

@midnight nimbus you have friends :0

[zenith pendant]

We have 2 more squad reinforcements slots available in selection that are empty

what do you think will go there ?

[solid hinge]

naval

[zenith pendant]

I personally want a paradrop plane reinforcement

real high-high-high up in the sky

like, 300m higher than sky box so only fighters can combat that

or have it fly low enough for AAs to be able to hit it, but make it phat and durable and cost low

Basically a "What if Airborne plane was a reinforcement"

[stoic breach]

What would the reinforcement be for

Oh tha

[zenith pendant]

12 player capacity

you spawn in

[stoic breach]

That sounds interesting, but it would be cool if it was just a map thing

[zenith pendant]

and choose when and where to jump

[solid hinge]

I think a carpet bombing airstrike is likely

[zenith pendant]

depending on how it's implemented in terms of survivability (so high only planes can fight it or low enough for AAs to shoot it), 20k or 10k

and it lives for, idk, 4-5 minutes

[solid hinge]

or heavy artillery .. the arty we have is called light

[zenith pendant]

and after that just buggers off

[stoic breach]

Having a flamethrower reinforcement would be fun as well

[zenith pendant]

@stoic breach Crocodile

[solid hinge]

oh napalm

[zenith pendant]

[stoic breach]

Crocodile is a shitty flamethrower though

Fantastic cannon but shit flamethrower

[solid hinge]

flamethrowers usually are

[zenith pendant]

idk I always wanted to make it work with a friend

[charred heron]

Ah yes, just opened Battlefield and get greeted with the first batch of bugs

Anyways, does anyone else get a hilarious ping value, even when they're connected via LAN and use a server in their region?

[zenith pendant]

Anyways, that Airborne paratrooper plane can not be on rails

We can make it player-controlled, like the current 2 req vehicles

[stoic breach]

@charred heron using lan sounds weird

Unless you mean just ethernet

[zenith pendant]

but idk how that will impact that, you can troll a significant portion of your team if you are the one flying the thing

[charred heron]

@stoic breach

Cabled

[stoic breach]

Yeah if you fly 12 players out of the playable area, might not be so good

Dang

[zenith pendant]

Actually I think it being on rails is the best

[charred heron]

Why do i get a 190 ping on a german server is the question i'm asking

Can play NA as well then

[zenith pendant]

because flying it out of bounds is going to suck big-time

not only for you, who just wasted a req vehicle

but for the paratroopers inside too

[stoic breach]

I would just rather it be a map feature you can use to air taxi

AI controlled

So you dont waste pilot's seats trying to air-taxi

[zenith pendant]

Do you think it can be game-breaking

like, a paratroop spawn that is flying all around the map

imagine the flanking / backcapping power on something like Marita

[solid hinge]

because people would fly it out of bounds or into the ground just to troll, like people do with carriers in bf1942 .. and with no in game admins there is no way to deter such behaviour

[zenith pendant]

how would in-game admins deter this behaviour

[solid hinge]

bans

[zenith pendant]

I'm pretty sure if a guy does that he won't care if he gets kicked or banned

[solid hinge]

he would eventually have nowhere to play

this is nothing new

[zenith pendant]

what if it's unintentional, like you running away from a fighter

would you ban the paratroop pilot if he flew out of bounds running away from a fighter ?

what if he's new and does not know the ins and outs of that and flies low

[solid hinge]

midway servers in BF1942 would often have a rule such as "no grounding ships/no using ships as taxis/no running ships out of bounds"

admin's discretion to enforce obviously

[stoic breach]

Paratroop map spawn wouldn't be game breaking if it was just a part of the map

But it shouldnt be an excuse to spread flags out ridiculously far apart

[zenith pendant]

We can always balance that out for certain maps

by disabling requisitioning the plane altogether

[charred heron]

Honestly, i played 1 round and can't say that the game got worse

[zenith pendant]

like for Marita since it's too CQC

[charred heron]

Because in order to become worse it had to be good at one point

So yeah, the update was a solid 10/10 where i spend more time getting my loadout back than playing the game

[zenith pendant]

what loadout

my weapons didn't get reset

after 4.4

[stoic breach]

Sad

[zenith pendant]

I mean honestly

[stoic breach]

Yeah I feel like the paradrop plane wouldnt really need to be a req

If it was just automatically placed as a map asset

I think that would be better

[zenith pendant]

Only 1 map really needs a restriction for that paratroop plane

and it's Marita

[stoic breach]

Yeah

It wouldnt fit Marita anyways

[zenith pendant]

Fjell has a whopping 5 (6) other planes that can take this out

[stoic breach]

Fjell wouldnt work either