battlefield-legacy-titles

[north ravine]

get your facts straight

[dark sorrel]

They included the Norwegians?

[solid hinge]

Nine Merc try wikipedia

Was italy as important as us and japan

[dark sorrel]

In story mode

[north ravine]

Italy was one of the first to declare war on the uk

[dark sorrel]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Nordlys is bullshit

[dark sorrel]

Italy was the second major Axis power in Europe

[north ravine]

Oh god

[dark sorrel]

And caused a lot of trouble in Africa and the Mediterranean

[north ravine]

He doesnt get it

[solid hinge]

from what they said it makes sense to have expected them

DID YOU SERIOUSLY EXPECT ITALY AND FRANCE???

[north ravine]

Yes

[solid hinge]

dude

as we have now learned, DICE are very good at not telling the truth

[north ravine]

he's losing it

[dark sorrel]

Bro are you having a stroke

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge Mussolini was one of the main axis leaders. Italy was a major faction back then.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

When i say major, i mean us and japan major

Theyll barely add the ussr

[north ravine]

Italy was that major

[solid hinge]

hi battlefield fellas

It wasnt

They will next year

[north ravine]

Put it like this

[solid hinge]

Italy and france didnt do shit

[north ravine]

doesnt mean they shouldnt be added

[solid hinge]

Lmao

did you guys know that the berlin wall was taken down

[north ravine]

They were still major factions during ww2

You ever heard of something called the french resistance

[solid hinge]

You think they have time and resources to add italy?

SOMEONE GIVE THIS GUY A HISTORY BOOK

ikr

[dark sorrel]

In the grand scheme of WW2 I'd argue Italy played a more important part in the axis war effort than Japan

[glad charm]

Nazi bad

[solid hinge]

You think they have time and resources to add italy?

[north ravine]

Well they should do it because they wanted to make a ww2 game

[solid hinge]

They wont

[north ravine]

Like we dont know that

[solid hinge]

We might not even get ussr lol

[north ravine]

Im saying they should not necessarily they will

[solid hinge]

They cant

[dark sorrel]

Japan fucked around in the Pacific with some island warfare whilst Italy contributed to the war effort in a big way and the Italian Campaign was a major part of the war that lead to 2million deaths

[solid hinge]

Japan got the us involved lmao

[dry plinth]

Which mosquitoe do you guys reccomend? the air to ground one or air to air

[solid hinge]

America was doing very good at avoiding helping up to then

The USA and British tried to invade italy at first before D-Day.

[summer fog]

Screw you you commie japs btw that was a reference to a video that I watched

[solid hinge]

@dry plinth do you mean which specs for the mosquito?

What did italy do? Gas some africans lmao

@summer fog i suggest watching better videos

[dry plinth]

i meant which mosquito as there are two of them

[solid hinge]

The second mosquito does everything the first one does but better

[dark sorrel]

Italy also directly contributed to the fall of Yugoslavia, providing the Axis with fuel and easy routes into Russia

[dry plinth]

oh lol

[north ravine]

They had conflics with the british in africa @solid hinge not with the natives

[solid hinge]

It's.. weirdly balanced

Cool

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_Pact there ya go for anyone who don’t think that Italy is a major faction.

[dark sorrel]

And held key strategic points along the med, making life really difficult for the Allies

[solid hinge]

Ok lets look at this from a game standpoint

[dry plinth]

i dont get the stuka. its a dive bomber but cant pull up for shit

[summer fog]

I hope they add d day

[solid hinge]

both stukas arent particularly good

They should add Italy

which one are you using?

[dry plinth]

neither

i dont use the stuka

[solid hinge]

Did italy have ligt heavy and medium tanks, multiple planes, a v1 rocket?

[north ravine]

@solid hinge theres only one guy who thinks that italy is a major faction

@solid hinge did the uk have a v1

[solid hinge]

Jb2

[north ravine]

JB2 Was a prototype

[dry plinth]

i use the ju-88 with the 500kg bombs

[dark sorrel]

From a game standpoint, Italy add great locational diversity, an perspective, a range of weapons OH AND JET PLANES

[north ravine]

it was never made

[solid hinge]

@north ravine Just to be sure

Well did italians have enough vehicles to justify an entire faction lmao

[dark sorrel]

Yes

[solid hinge]

ju-88 a is a very good plane

[north ravine]

they did

[solid hinge]

Name some

[north ravine]

sure

[solid hinge]

dude we have like 4 tanks per faction and 3 planes

[dark sorrel]

List_of_Italian_Army_equipment_in_World_War_II

[solid hinge]

its not like it takes a lot of vehicles to justify a faction

Welk

[dark sorrel]

List_of_Italian_Army_equipment_in_World_War_II

Fuck

1 sec

[solid hinge]

heh

[north ravine]

is the mbt

c1 ariete

[dark sorrel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_Army_equipment_in_World_War_II

[solid hinge]

Making an italian faction is just not gonna happen, and if you thougt it was im sorry youre an idiot

[dark sorrel]

There u go

[dry plinth]

imagine if the british had an a couple m1 abrams and a10 warthogs. i wonder how quickly they would have won the war

[north ravine]

Thats modern era war machines

[dry plinth]

yes

obviously

[north ravine]

Imagine if the germans had typhoons and 2a5

[solid hinge]

even a couple pieces of good tech could get taken down

[dry plinth]

yeah. but still tho. it would help alot

[dark sorrel]

There are literally already Italian weapons in the game LOL

[gray glade]

funny you mention the a10 warthog, considering that history it had with german engineering

[solid hinge]

A challenger 2 lmao

[dry plinth]

lol

[solid hinge]

In ww2

Litterally unkillable

[dry plinth]

oh jesus

[solid hinge]

Challenger 2s can survive like 12 direct rpg hits

Never has one been destroyed

[dry plinth]

what about just having like a large stockpile of inter continental missiles or something

[hazy wasp]

FUCK THAT

13th

[solid hinge]

inb4 one single tank bankrupts the allies

V2 rockets for bfv plz

[hazy wasp]

I fired first, hit all headshots and he somehow killed me

[solid hinge]

100000 requisition gives you a v2

[dark sorrel]

The British have tea making facilities in all their tanks because of an incident in World war 2 where several crews pulled over for a brew and go ambushed

[dry plinth]

lol

[dark sorrel]

Got*

[dry plinth]

thats some 300iq play right there

[solid hinge]

100iq is average

[dry plinth]

yes

hence why i said 300iq

[gray glade]

when will we get teamaker in our tanks dice?

it will bring your health back

[hazy wasp]

IQ is a poor measurement for intellegence

[dark sorrel]

I prefer the Russian tactic of strapping mattress frames to the side of tanks to absorb the damage of AT rockets

[dry plinth]

Ardaam. ok fine: Intelligence 100

[dark sorrel]

And also strapping katyuska rockets to tanks and levelling Berlin

[hazy wasp]

no its just a bad way of measuring intelligence is all

[coarse thunder]

high iq plays

[prime pine]

Wait really

[midnight nimbus]

IQ is like your accuracy stat in BF

[prime pine]

With the mattress part

[midnight nimbus]

if it's low, you suck

if it's high, doesn't mean anything

[hazy wasp]

accuracy stat is kinda BS when Surpression is a mechanic

[midnight nimbus]

not rly

[dry plinth]

what does suppression even do?

[midnight nimbus]

1. suppression doesn't do anything in BFV

[dry plinth]

i've always wondered

[midnight nimbus]

2. you can just stop shooting

which is what you're supposed to do anyways

[hazy wasp]

surpression is a decent way to diamond mark people

[dry plinth]

oh

[solid hinge]

if i shoot enough something has to hit someone

it's gotta

[dark sorrel]

Yeah

[coarse thunder]

Suppression in previous bf games made you more innacurate and your screen darkens

[hazy wasp]

im aware im late tot his but Firestorm is not good

[prime pine]

My overall accuracy is... 0.09 i think

Kek

[glad charm]

Isn’t that what suppression is in bfv?

[dark sorrel]

Steel spring mattress frames would catch rockets and cause them to explode against the armour of tanks rather than penetrating

[solid hinge]

as expected of a fg42 main..

[prime pine]

HEY

Other factors too....

[solid hinge]

Fg42 bad lmao

[prime pine]

My average accuracy with my gun is 20.00 + something

Hang on

[solid hinge]

Kd and spm?

How do you even aim with it

^

Whats your kd and spm

[rocky verge]

Spray and prey

[prime pine]

I dont know. I just work with it kek.

[rocky verge]

How you check?

[midnight nimbus]

BFV suppression doesn't do shit

[solid hinge]

How do you use it

[midnight nimbus]

except for spot people if you're a support

[north ravine]

fg42 is too hard for me

ill stick to the lewis

[solid hinge]

Same

[midnight nimbus]

and it cancels out aura healing from medic crates

[solid hinge]

Not lewis tho

[rocky verge]

@prime pine how you check your states on the gun?

[prime pine]

Battlefield tracker

[dark sorrel]

Most games portray tanks as being destroyed by being blown up but the majority of the time they were incapacitated by the crew inside being killed or surrendering rather than explosions

[solid hinge]

4.34 kd with fg41

WAHR

fuckin bodie

[prime pine]

No

[solid hinge]

HOW

[prime pine]

Those are my overall stats

Ill show you my support score

[north ravine]

Already 75?

[solid hinge]

But whats your kd without the tanker and pilot

I have a kd of 2.56

[north ravine]

how much hours do you sink in a day

[prime pine]

[solid hinge]

Jesus lol

Tanker second place

3.87 with fg42

No

Its not possible

[prime pine]

Want to see my other weapons merc?

I dont JUST use the fg

[solid hinge]

No

I feel trash

Do you use the m1928a1?

Is 2.57 good?

[north ravine]

yea

[prime pine]

TOO BAD IM SHARING MY GUNS ANYWAYS

[solid hinge]

Nice

[north ravine]

What the actual fuck

[solid hinge]

What sight do you use?

[north ravine]

How can you play a single gun and not get bored of it

[prime pine]

Im a dirty. Dirty motherfucker and i. Am. PROUD

[solid hinge]

What sight?

[prime pine]

Irons on the fg. Scope on the bren.

[solid hinge]

ok

I’ve 32517 kills with the M1928A1 is that bad?

Imma try it out a bit

[prime pine]

The fg42 doesnt bore me at all. Thats why i keep on playing with it.

Fucking hell musti thats crazy

[north ravine]

No its scary @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

😂😂😂

Havent used the fg42 too much any tips

[prime pine]

L r r r for the spec tree

[solid hinge]

you people are insane..

[prime pine]

L l l r is great for learning it

[north ravine]

I think all my kills are like your kills but with the bren @prime pine

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge what’s wrong? 😂😂

Bren gay

[north ravine]

just the bren

[prime pine]

Bren gay why?

[north ravine]

because cant use it

thats why

[prime pine]

Kek

[solid hinge]

Sorry my brain died and i thought of lewid

[rocky verge]

20.82 accuracy for FG42

[solid hinge]

Bren is good

[north ravine]

Lewis is the best mg

wtf do you mean

[solid hinge]

Lewis gay

I can’t use the FG42. I tried but just can’t because of the 20 bullets in 1 magazine

Same

[north ravine]

97 mag not overheating

how is that bad

[solid hinge]

Ok boomer

I like mine tommy with 50 ammo in 1 magazine

[north ravine]

its the most balanced mg

[solid hinge]

Tomny gay

[prime pine]

Figured i would share this

[midnight nimbus]

I wish BFV had 10 round FG42

[solid hinge]

Balanced lmao

[midnight nimbus]

like irl

but at like 900 RPM or some shit

[solid hinge]

10 round sar

[north ravine]

At this point I know you can't give out a single argument as to why you dislike something @solid hinge

[prime pine]

Im a flying asshole in the 88c and i LOOOVE it

[north ravine]

therefore ill start ignoring you more

[solid hinge]

Im joking around ffs

i paint my bayonet rainbow colours before shanking people

Calm down

@solid hinge what’s your favorite weapon?

[north ravine]

Never flew a plane

[solid hinge]

Mp40

[north ravine]

bcuz im an ass pilot

[solid hinge]

And sten

You’re man of culture Bodie

[rocky verge]

I still gotta work on getting all guns gold

[solid hinge]

Sten is shit

[rocky verge]

And mint

[solid hinge]

Its not

[north ravine]

Sten is decent

[solid hinge]

Sten is great

Laser beam

[north ravine]

Its well balanced

[coarse thunder]

I gotta play tmrw to get the xp

[midnight nimbus]

Sten is 🗑🗑🗑

[rocky verge]

If I buy the hawk and dove outfit today i can make a medic pilot outfit and mess with people at long range

[solid hinge]

I play better with the STEN i got when i’m being a tanker than a medic

[north ravine]

People just get used to a single gun and then start talking shit about other guns

[solid hinge]

@north ravine shut up, you’re right!

An smg that can laser people at like 100ms is trash? Ok boomer

[rocky verge]

Shotgun for life

[solid hinge]

Tommy master weapon

[north ravine]

you know what boomer is ?

[rocky verge]

Even with slug rounds

[solid hinge]

Im joking lmao

Stop being butthurt

[north ravine]

m1897 slugs

[solid hinge]

Slugs bad

But do you know what boomer is?

[north ravine]

not being butthurt im just asking do you know

[solid hinge]

Shut up boomer

[coarse thunder]

Boomer alert

[north ravine]

Ok zoomers

[solid hinge]

Lmao

Boomer

[coarse thunder]

🚓

[north ravine]

im not even that old lamo

[solid hinge]

Its a joke

[midnight nimbus]

i have 69 kills, 0.03 KPM with the Sten

nice

[north ravine]

nice

[solid hinge]

Thats your fault

Sten is legendary

[north ravine]

make it 4,20 KPM @midnight nimbus

[solid hinge]

heh

[midnight nimbus]

Sten is still garb

[north ravine]

ok chimp

[midnight nimbus]

why pick it over the MP40

when the MP40 is literally a flat upgrade

[weak marsh]

I love any smg

[solid hinge]

Mp40 and sten are identical

[coarse thunder]

Aren't they basically the same thing

[weak marsh]

Expect ZK

[midnight nimbus]

MP40 has less hrec

more accurate

[north ravine]

Zk has a slow ass rof

[solid hinge]

I use sten on brits

And mp40 on germans

[weak marsh]

They are different

[north ravine]

and i'd go with the mag upgrade rather than rof upgrade

[midnight nimbus]

ZK kills one frame slower and is a lot more accurate

and has better specs

[coarse thunder]

I feel more rec in all fields when playing mp40 lol

[north ravine]

tbh the only good thing about the zk is that sweet bipod

[solid hinge]

Mp40 has more rec

[north ravine]

so you can snipe people

[solid hinge]

Than sten

it's only one frame lower?

shit

is EMP one frame higher

[coarse thunder]

Bruh slow zk to me feels like minecraft

[midnight nimbus]

EMP is one frame faster

ZK is one frame slower

[solid hinge]

..heh

talk about minor changes

[north ravine]

Never got to use the emp mp34 and mp28

[weak marsh]

Also the MAB is bae

[north ravine]

yea its a good weapon

[weak marsh]

I would use the MP34 with the Japanese

[muted socket]

I dont like the mp28

[north ravine]

M1928 is the daddy though

[muted socket]

Your character holds it weird

[weak marsh]

Because bayonet

[muted socket]

Im just gonna say it

[weak marsh]

Yeah it is

[coarse thunder]

MP28 is nice but there's no reason to take it over the Suomi or Tommy

[solid hinge]

There is

[midnight nimbus]

no

[solid hinge]

Easier rec better hipfire

[midnight nimbus]

MP28 is really good

[north ravine]

Suomi is very hard to control on console with ADS

[solid hinge]

This patch changed it

[north ravine]

I always use it to hip fire even with the ads specs

[midnight nimbus]

lower RoF > faster RoF around ~20m

[weak marsh]

It change almost every smg

[midnight nimbus]

~10-15m for hipfire

[solid hinge]

@midnight nimbus what’s your kd and spm?

[prime pine]

The 88c's 20mm cannon is awful

[solid hinge]

It's certainly not great

[prime pine]

It needs a velocity buff

[solid hinge]

to be fair having spotting camera and a 75mm cannon on one plane is pretty hot

[prime pine]

I was toying with the idea of it being replaced with the .50 explosive round gun but that'll make it a bit too good

Yeah and thats fine

Its pitiful against fighters

Thats my point of contention

[midnight nimbus]

3.25 K/D

pretty shit SPM

[weak marsh]

Guys did you try the new rdr2 update ?

[midnight nimbus]

@solid hinge

456 SPM ah

[prime pine]

Whats spm?

Oh right

[solid hinge]

it's a bomber! It should be pants vs fighters

[prime pine]

Oh no i understand. Im just comparing it to the blen mk1 which can shoot pilots out

[solid hinge]

gives up effectiveness vs fighters for being able to damage tanks

[hazy wasp]

I DID it

[solid hinge]

I like that they're both good vs infantry

[hazy wasp]

had to kill 2 people in the top 10 in the firestorm but I got top 8 muahahhahaha

[prime pine]

Yeah no. If the 20mm got a velocity buff it would make it better for taking on fighters you manage to take on.

[hazy wasp]

60KXP for fuck all work

[solid hinge]

Does anyone elsw find it weird that in ww1 bullets flew faster and straighter then in ww2?

[hazy wasp]

WW1 bullets tbf were mostly from bolt actions vs WW2 semi autos

or are we talking Battlefield physics rules 😛

[midnight nimbus]

they're largely the same exact rounds lol

[solid hinge]

Yea but planes

More PTFO’ing kht 😂

[midnight nimbus]

nah that's no fun

456 isn't bad though all things considered

i don't revive, heal, or resupply

i just ran crates and let people grab off me if they so felt like it

[solid hinge]

Mine is 3.32, 621.13 spm, 1.72 kill pm

[icy sluice]

I had some pretty good games of Combat Under Pressure as Recon using the SLRs to shit on people

[prime pine]

Would a 681 SPM be considered good as a support?

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

456 SPM somehow puts me at top 15%

so ig

[prime pine]

Kek

Im an awesome support : D

[solid hinge]

lots of players get piss spm

I’m an awesome medic

[hazy wasp]

Crates are better than pouches

[midnight nimbus]

mfw one of my friends has like a 722 SPM despite not reviving or healing people

while being a medic main

truly inspirational

[hazy wasp]

fuck it here you go lads im off to shoot some toot

[prime pine]

Thy fuck

[solid hinge]

healing people often only gives you 20

cause they heal themselves and you just resupply

[hazy wasp]

more time to get revives though

[solid hinge]

and revives are only 100 a pop unless it's a squad member

[hazy wasp]

Multitasking

[midnight nimbus]

774* SPM rather

[solid hinge]

50 mag smgs is over 5 kills a mag

points out the wazoo

[hazy wasp]

you could get 7 if you were a good burst fire person

[solid hinge]

the POINTS

...

What about the kills?

[hazy wasp]

SMG's are largely bullshit

[solid hinge]

the KILLS

[hazy wasp]

and i like SMGs

[solid hinge]

Nahh

Gooodd

[hazy wasp]

SMG's are bs

the 1 shot rifles are bullshit

[prime pine]

I can fit three kills with one mag in the fg42!

[hazy wasp]

the Lewis gun, I assume its a lag thing on console right now is super bullshit

[solid hinge]

But you’re a god with the FG42

[prime pine]

Ive got experience with it but im not a god

[hazy wasp]

what was it earlier @solid hinge I only got killed by the tommy gun, Suomi and Lewis gun the entire round

[icy sluice]

I can get three kills with one magazine

[solid hinge]

My friends spm is 937.74 is that good?

[hazy wasp]

FG24 as a semi auto rifle though is sex

3x scope

pew pew bois

[prime pine]

Lewis is an ok gun. I remember my friend saying its a prime flanking machine gun.

[hazy wasp]

it needs a few more downsides its a little too useful atm

[weak marsh]

With the extended magazine yes

[solid hinge]

n-nine hundred?

how is that even possible

Sorry

Spm

Not kd

Lol

Even for spm!!

Lmaoo

[hazy wasp]

LOL

[solid hinge]

He’s good

[hazy wasp]

900KD

[midnight nimbus]

playing for SPM is so boring

[hazy wasp]

calm down Stalin

[midnight nimbus]

me spam 3

me spam E

[solid hinge]

What's spm?

[prime pine]

One of my friends goals is to get a high KPM

Score per min

[hazy wasp]

playing for points can be boring too, BF is a nice game to fuck around with from time to time

[solid hinge]

O

Idk what mine is

822.07 spm on his first account

Let me chexk

[hazy wasp]

one time my crew and I just held C on panzerstorm

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge battlefield tracker

[hazy wasp]

you'd think that would get boring, it didn;t because for some reason the enemy kept trying to take it over and over constantly all round lol

[solid hinge]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/psn/Tommyshelbii/overview

YEA ONLY LIKE 300

Whoops all caps

[hazy wasp]

yeah mines only 350 cause I fuck about too much

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge

[prime pine]

I will asmit

I play hard

[hazy wasp]

my favourite thing to do in the game honestly is track down tricky Recons/flankers

[prime pine]

But the only thing i want to improve is my KD

which i naturally do

[solid hinge]

But you get that much score by PTFO-ing and actually playing medic

[prime pine]

I want to get my K/D to a solid 5

[hazy wasp]

the score balance in the game across classes is kinda shit

[pastel grove]

it honestly is

[prime pine]

Before i wanted that 4 K/D now i want that 5 K/D

[hazy wasp]

Recon got fucked on this gen of BF

[pastel grove]

I hear that if you just spam flares the whole round, you get a shitton of points.

[prime pine]

0.66 points left till i get to my goal...

[solid hinge]

over a 5th of his kills are headshots

[pastel grove]

[hazy wasp]

we cant destroy vehicles (really) we can only spot and now we earn half the points from spotting, albiet get a ton more from assists, but that still works out less

[solid hinge]

holy fuck

[hazy wasp]

you're a recon main ffs

[solid hinge]

he has fucking 5kpm on the tommy

This is his second account

[sonic rampart]

What

[solid hinge]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/psn/Tommyshelbii/overview

[sonic rampart]

Thats illegal

[solid hinge]

This lol

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/psn/DzhugashviIi/overview his first account

I play almost every day with him

This man is a tryhard

So what?

[midnight nimbus]

that's not a bad thing, it's just true

nothing wrong w being a tryhard

[solid hinge]

is his controller made out of diamonds

Tryharding is fun

Lmaoo

His controller is broken

[hazy wasp]

it can be

[solid hinge]

The R2 button is fucked

[hazy wasp]

One time on Rotterdamn my squadmate revives me and I jump up like if I was given an injection of meth kill 5 enemy team in the objective and revive 6 of my teammates like a crazy person

like when you immediately jump back into action

no chill given no quarter drawn

[solid hinge]

That’s how I am lol

[hazy wasp]

I HAVE THE POWER

[solid hinge]

But I don’t revive too often anymore

[hazy wasp]

Also with infinite instant heals for the medic

I just throw myself off high palces because who needs legs

[pastel grove]

Same

Playing as medic allows you to not give a shit

[hazy wasp]

*fuck y'all I'm captain America

[solid hinge]

I won’t revive teammates that lay down with their lmgs and mmgs

PTFO and I will revive you

Stay in the back and I won’t

[hazy wasp]

I have killed entire squads of people to revive one lad

just because that fella pushed the damn objective

[solid hinge]

That’s true teammatehood

[hazy wasp]

Battlefield is a team game

generally if you back people up they back you up

the odd dickhead not withstanding

[midnight nimbus]

i think you're overestimating how much average player pays attention to nametags

and knows to pay someone back

[hazy wasp]

you do get people following you around if you pick them up

[solid hinge]

@midnight nimbus Oh I know

[pastel grove]

I always try to just pay attention to whoever revives me

[hazy wasp]

its not all the time but some times its cool to see

[prime pine]

Guess you and i would do really well musti kek

[hazy wasp]

Also oN PS4 anyway in the last month or so magic has happened and..people are playing their roles correctly in many games

[prime pine]

The thing is

[solid hinge]

If only you had a ps4..

[prime pine]

When i play defensively and i need to lock an area down (and i know it) i would go bren

[pastel grove]

I always go MMG on defense

or Lewis

[prime pine]

I go bren because it has a lot more manoeuvrability than an MMG.

[hazy wasp]

shotgun on defence, plugging holes

[solid hinge]

MMG is good when you’re in the objective in frontlines

[prime pine]

Shotgun in general is just rush

[hazy wasp]

ya might get into our lines, but you dont get past old Chromey

[prime pine]

Anyways. I gotta play terraria

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[solid hinge]

What’s that

[prime pine]

Bye!

A game

!

[pastel grove]

@prime pine Add me on Xbox?

[solid hinge]

..

Kay

[hazy wasp]

2d minecrsafty sorta game

[prime pine]

2D minecraft!

With bosses and loot and awesome stuff!

[solid hinge]

Try Destiny

[prime pine]

Single player

Look it up

[solid hinge]

[prime pine]

And sorry raven i dont really add people

Destiny is nice but its not my game

Its cool

[pastel grove]

No worries

[solid hinge]

It’s expensive and one of the best

60 bucks for an expansion

[prime pine]

But you need to pay tonnes of money just to get the "complete" experience.

[solid hinge]

Yeah I know

60 a year is good for me

[prime pine]

Terraria is... 20?

[solid hinge]

With tons of content

[prime pine]

Destiny with the bullet spongey things and crap just never got to me

[solid hinge]

Bullet spongey things?

[prime pine]

Enemies

Stuff

[solid hinge]

Yeah, but it’s a mmo rpg

[prime pine]

Im in a bit of a weird state of no sleep soooooo imma do my best to stay up all day

Ah

I see

[boreal horizon]

what should i spend scraps on in bf1? squad xp boosts? skins? battlepacks?

[solid hinge]

I hate destiny

Bootleg fps mmo

certainly not a pleasant spiritual sequel to halo

[echo glen]

@boreal horizon Usually I'd spend on battlepacks but if you want to get more xp get a booster

[boreal horizon]

thanks

[pastel grove]

Battlepacks because usually you get skins that you can just scrap

[cold trail]

I'd take Destiny over Halo, never liked, and I am an XBox nut.... but I don't really like Destiny either.

lol

[pastel grove]

Can't lose much if you get some good quality skins that you don't want

I love Halo

Couldn't really get that into Destiny

[cold trail]

I'm just not into that kind of sci-fi-esque game.

[midnight nimbus]

epic 2 second time to kill

when the BF1 1916 would literally be the best gun in the game by a gigantic margin in Destiny

[boreal horizon]

any idea which battlepack is best value for scrap?

[midnight nimbus]

spongey TTK is a huge turn off

[cold trail]

I was slightly okay with Halo Wars, because of Starcraft, etc.

Anyways, probably a chat best for #general .

[solid hinge]

console RTS was certainly something

imagine if battlefield did that

[pastel grove]

[solid hinge]

Well... I guess that was commander

[hazy wasp]

lol the tommygun

[pastel grove]

Console RTS is definitely an interesting thing

Dawn of War is best RTS, change my mind

[midnight nimbus]

https://youtu.be/r2uw-srhPrY?t=910 timestamped, but finally a YTer says it out loud

no amount of content will save an unfun game

[cold trail]

Imagine if Battlefield had a third-person mode, but opponents didn't appear unless they were in line of sight (so if you peeked a corner, you saw them, but if you didn't, you couldn't).

[sonic rampart]

That would suck

[cold trail]

Doubtful

[sonic rampart]

It would be glitchy

It also looks weird

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, defeats the purpose of having 3p in the first place

[cold trail]

Doesn't take away from anyone's ability to play first-person, it'd be a different game mode.

third-person is not meant to give you an advantage lol

[sonic rampart]

Wouldnt want dice to waste their time with such a mode just like with 5v5

[hazy wasp]

my team just threqw a squad conquest game because they are dense

[cold trail]

third-person is meant as a different style of play (over-the-shoulder)

[icy sluice]

The 3rd person animations don't really look that good when moving fast, then again no game looks good in third person, other than like GTA V and RDR2

Because of the 'physics' tied to the characters

[boreal horizon]

out of the normal battlepack, enhanced battlepack or superior battlepack, which is the best value for scraps?

[sonic rampart]

Mafia looks good aswell

[pastel grove]

The Batman Arkham games look good in 3rd person

Imo

[icy sluice]

Talking mostly with shooting

[pastel grove]

Ah

[icy sluice]

Because of aiming and all of that.

[pastel grove]

I totally agree on RDR2

[cold trail]

I think the characters look just fine in spectator mode.

[pastel grove]

A fucking amazing game all around

[sonic rampart]

Tbh

[cold trail]

Essentially the same thing.

[icy sluice]

Strafing has this jankiness

[sonic rampart]

I wouldnt mind Firestorm being third person and first person

[solid hinge]

rdr2 feels like wading through honey

[sonic rampart]

Like Pubg

[hazy wasp]

Uncharted in 3rd person looks pretty decent

[cold trail]

True ^

[solid hinge]

gun play in it is the opposite of pleasant

[sonic rampart]

Would be a better Pubg lol

[icy sluice]

You can't move all too fast in Uncharted, GTA and Red Dead due to the animation system, although Uncharted is a different story

GTA and Red Dead makes you feel like you're commanding a person, not being that person

The fact that there's a fuckton of parkour custom maps in GTA astounds me as the person will have their own mind sliding off of things because you moved towards an edge, and doesn't care that you're 350m in the air

[hazy wasp]

eh Uncharted 4 you can fairly move

[icy sluice]

I didn't say it was that bad, the cover system does kinda mess up the movement a little bit.

Speaking of Cover Systems, these games should definitely get some kind of indicator where you're gonna go when pressing the cover snap button

[pastel grove]

After playing too much Red Dead, other games feel weird as shit

[gray saffron]

uncharted is more of a cover shooter than true shooter. i'd say tps games closer to fps games are stuff like max payne 1 and 2, alice 1 etc.

[hazy wasp]

red dead plays for animation over gameplay

[icy sluice]

It's because every minute thing you do has this animation system behind it

It looks cool and immersive but plays like absolute dogshit

[solid hinge]

as much as i hate driving tanks in bfv it feels better than riding a horse in rdr2

[hazy wasp]

OMFG

3 snipers in Squad conquest

WHYY

[solid hinge]

ive never hit so many trees in my life

snipers in SQ

[icy sluice]

Also, most animations in these games have the character not really care that their life is at stake

[hazy wasp]

3 on the fucking hill

not even getting kills ffs

or spotting a soul

[solid hinge]

recons? actually spotting?

nonsense

[pastel grove]

You need a better horse, Aula

[hazy wasp]

give 10 points for a recon kill and 100 for spotting instead..

[echo glen]

Get the White Arabian, best horse

[solid hinge]

I have a personal theory that the devs actually spot when they test the maps and stuff so they dont realise that literally 0.1% of public match recons even know what a gadget is

[pastel grove]

One of the best

Black Arabian is better than white

[solid hinge]

also i had black arabian and it rode into trees 5 times in the space of two minutes

[pastel grove]

Better stamina and health iirc

[hazy wasp]

I say take explosive C4 from Assault remove spotting scope and have scopes on rifles automatically do it and give the C4 to recons

[echo glen]

Anyway I take my leave to #general, see y'all!

[solid hinge]

worse horse AI ever

[pastel grove]

Aula hates roads

But yeah, I've had my fair share of dumb horse moments

[icy sluice]

The playtesters for BFV play in super sweaty matches

[pastel grove]

Best horse overall is Missouri Foxtrotter

[solid hinge]

best horse is zebra

I wish I was sweaty

[hazy wasp]

the gods intervened, my internet dropped and I dusconnected lol

the problem is the playtresters know how to play the game

BFV did an awful job of teaching you how to play Battlefield

[strong parrot]

lmao sq conq still a pile of trash mode

just a fucking circle simulator

[hazy wasp]

thats ebcause there is no incentive tod efend an objective

[reef mountain]

so now the bfv tracker site gives out rewards looks like only hackers will win

[hazy wasp]

I have to get 12 kills in 1 life

doable

or 5 wins of SQ CQ

[midnight nimbus]

nonsense

this is why we need passive spotting

now recons have to spot

whether they like it or not

[solid hinge]

i mean

technically that's what the sniper role is for

but they cant even fucking hit what they're aiming at

[hazy wasp]

just ditch the scope and put that on the rifle scope

[midnight nimbus]

that's where passive spotting comes in

if you're pointing at someone, logically, you see them

[hazy wasp]

mhm

[solid hinge]

Spotting scope on top of the gun

[midnight nimbus]

make the spotting part automatic

[solid hinge]

That's genius

[midnight nimbus]

doesn't have to be like the spotting scope

but how it worked in BF1 Incursions is fine

[hazy wasp]

it just is

[midnight nimbus]

or a improved version of the BF4 "passive spot"

[solid hinge]

with how shit bolts are they deserve to have a spotting scope naturally on them

[pastel grove]

Honestly

[hazy wasp]

I'd equate it to the spotting camera on the Archer

it autospots as you sweep around

I'd remove the ''spotted when shot'' then

[midnight nimbus]

i mean make it work exactly like Incursions intended

or how MGO3 does it

[icy sluice]

I now just rock the Kar98k in Gold to flex on newbs

[marsh dirge]

Hello i am bacc

[midnight nimbus]

you point and track someone for 1-2 seconds, and they're spotted

[strong parrot]

just looking for 1 fucking win here...but its impossible..and im getting rubberbanding

lovely

[hazy wasp]

yup

[marsh dirge]

@ripe pine

[midnight nimbus]

way better than Q spam

[hazy wasp]

absolutely

see we can agree on things 😛

[midnight nimbus]

way better than not having spotting at all

not that "Q spam" was ever an issue

[marsh dirge]

@south patio

[hazy wasp]

*musclearmsfive.gif

[marsh dirge]

@sage imp

[strong parrot]

lol why is this idiot randomly pinging people..

[midnight nimbus]

did the people who ever complained about "Q spam" actually ever play BF4?

like

no one spots

that was already a huge community complaint

[marsh dirge]

Bruh @strong parrot i want to get a hold of an ea member but ok

you can diss me for it

[midnight nimbus]

there's some rule about this

[hazy wasp]

would of been r1 spam for us was awful

[marsh dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-idont-think-iwill-gif-14669627

[strong parrot]

so you are randomly spamming people and breaking rules....yay for morons

[midnight nimbus]

like if you go back on forums/reddit during peak BF3/4/1 days

[marsh dirge]

spamming? Thats another way of saying it..

[midnight nimbus]

people are begging each other to press Q and spot

[marsh dirge]

Aight imma head out

[strong parrot]

fucking join a sq conq..oh outnumbered instantly team gets 3 caps yeah not even going to try for a win there

[proven hatch]

yo im 14-0 LUL

[strong parrot]

join another game....team is 3 capped already on arras lmao..wtf

[hazy wasp]

oh yeah

winning dirty

a dude tried to find me while I was holding down C on Mercury

what he didn't take into account predator clicking sound

I saw him before he saw me

[marsh dirge]

gg

[hazy wasp]

fun times

[dark sorrel]

Spotting in general's a bit of a difficult one to get right

[pastel grove]

Would be nice if Recon could just spot like everyone could in BF1

[hazy wasp]

just put it on the scope

[midnight nimbus]

spotting isn't hard to get right

BF1 did it just fine

a lot of the arguments against it are disingenuous at best

could spotting be done a lot better? yeah

it could have a ton of depth with a ton of counterplay

but BF spotting wasn't done poorly

[dark sorrel]

I'd like something vaguely like Red Orchestra but a bit more casual-friendly:

1. Enemies firing suppressed weapons don't show up on the 2D map
2. Enemies firing weapons show up on the 2D map
3. Enemy vehicles will always be shown on the 2D map as long as your team have line of sight on it
4. Enemies will be tagged and show up on the 3D gamespace if spotted through either optics, dedicated tools or spy planes
5. All tagging vanishes if a player passes through a smoke screen and points are rewarded to the thrower of smoke

[solid hinge]

would be nice to know the slightly larger red box is actually a tank

[midnight nimbus]

#5 is the only thing i would say BF does poorly

but not for a lack of intent

DICE tries to make smoke block spotting every game, but implementation is always wonky

[hazy wasp]

Spotting could of been kept as is but kept within the squad

[reef mountain]

why would dice wanan talk to us they dont listen to the community and are happy aslong as we fill there pockets

[hazy wasp]

and have recons do it teamwide

[midnight nimbus]

no

that makes no sense at all

[dark sorrel]

@reef mountain you ever heard of figleafing?

[midnight nimbus]

because the point of spotting is to communicate with people you otherwise couldn't communicate with

see: non-squadmates

[reef mountain]

sorry im not german

[midnight nimbus]

BF3/4/1 did the general concept just fine

everyone can spot, recon/scout can spot better

[dark sorrel]

It's an English phrase that basically means a small gesture to cover up something embarassing or damaging

[hazy wasp]

Honestly Apex's Ping system shits over the spotting

[midnight nimbus]

it works well for Apex

[dark sorrel]

IE it's free publicity to just say "OK we're listening"

[midnight nimbus]

when you don't have a huge team

[solid hinge]

titanfall 2 shits on apex tho

[midnight nimbus]

it's something i'd love to see alongside 3D spotting, but not as a substitute

even TF2 does spotting well

[hazy wasp]

Titanfall 2 is a different game than Apex

[midnight nimbus]

plenty of capabilities for it

[dark sorrel]

Yo for all future Battlefields I'd love environments that are way more destructible but start the game intact

[midnight nimbus]

outlines >>>> icons

[hazy wasp]

Outlines in proxy

icons at range

[dark sorrel]

Like to the point that after like a half hour long tug of war a whole town is pretty much levelled

[midnight nimbus]

nothnx

fighting with no cover left kinda sucks

[solid hinge]

so the game needs a little more tug while you're on the ground.

[midnight nimbus]

and then people just hiding in the rubble

ew

[reef mountain]

tempted to reinstall apex as bfv ping/connection issues are causeing no hit regestry

[pastel grove]

I'm not Italian but I really want Italian faction ngl

They already added Cavalleria and Paracadutista cosmetics

And Italian weapons; the MAB 38 and M28 Tromboncino

[echo turtle]

They'll just surrender 2 minutes in

[pastel grove]

Feels weird running around with Cavalleria helmet with an Italian weapon with the Paracadutista skin and then shout something in German

[echo turtle]

The cavalleria helmet should be shared between the axis and allies tbh

[compact oxide]

Why not make all the uniforms shared tbh

[echo turtle]

Wouldn't mind seeing a German in Dead Man's Hand

Elites should be faction locked while everything else could be shared

[zealous void]

lol

[hazy wasp]

another night another tides Level up

5 levels to go

[chrome heron]

anybody wanna squad up on bf3 pc?

[icy sluice]

Churchill can be devastating sometimes

[bright karma]

anyone wants to play BF4?

[icy sluice]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[hazy wasp]

@midnight nimbus that video and that Doc is on the same lines with what i basically rant about badly here man solid showing 👍

[gray saffron]

i like your pun in the video name, raptor xd

[bright karma]

Guys wanna play BF4?

[gray saffron]

check out #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox or #lfg-playstation @bright karma for people to team up with

[bright karma]

I did. But people arent active there.

They dont play BF4.

[ionic girder]

The Xbox servers almost always have servers going.

BF1 is difficult to find though. @bright karma

[echo turtle]

Which gamemode for bf1?

Because grand operations and conquest is always populated

[ionic girder]

I couldn't find Conquest at all for two days.

GO is sometimes easy to find.

[gray saffron]

on PC bf1 is still quite active. i can find full servers on the most weirdest times

[minor shuttle]

Is it just me or whenever I join a BF5 server I keep getting disconnected or I join and then have a random 200+ ping spike for five seconds and either keep playing for another minute before it happens again or I just lose connection and disconnect?

[grand haven]

The terrible ping is a known issue.

[reef mountain]

bfv causes violence i want to find a few peopel houses so i can kerb stomp them lol

[grand haven]

I'd do more than curb stomp them.

[reef mountain]

if i was able to get my hands on these people there would be no end of scentance witht he things id do lol

[stoic breach]

🗿

[reef mountain]

ping me when they release our servers because its the only way pc players can play without cheats

[stoic breach]

Pretty sure people will just continue to hack on private servers

Unless its password protected

But then you need to give 63 other players the password

[midnight nimbus]

"SpOtTiNg KiLLeD sTeALtH iN bAtTLeFieLD 4"
meanwhile dropping 75 kills on a vehicle map bc suppressor and i'm terrible at bf4

[stoic breach]

You'd think that 3D spotting would lead to bigger brain camouflage plays to avoid getting 3D spotted

Wasnt there a radar jammer datamined from BFV as well or something?

[formal valve]

OH MY GOD

https://youtu.be/pt9HFmt0B4c

PLEASE DICE USE THESE FOR THE PACIFIC

HOLY GOD

[stoic breach]

You know what I miss

Different "Attackers Advance" themes

Cause playing the Battlefield theme at the start of a round is alright but it got old way to quickly

[untold wraith]

I disagree

I think the Battlefield theme whilst advancing is amazing

Pumps me up everytime

especially with everyone serging forward at one time

[hybrid dock]

I once had the battlefield theme playing while charging on panzerstorm breakthrough while tanks drove by and planes flew over head

[untold wraith]

So good

[stoic breach]

The Battlefield theme is great when it isnt the only song

Like take all the Apocalypse themes

Playing a remix of one of the first BF1 songs released got me hyped to shit

[lavish raptor]

gave myself a challenge, level up every gun to 10

p fun

also helping me figure out what my best weapons are

found out i like the fg-42 after forcing myself to play it lol

[midnight nimbus]

You'd think that 3D spotting would lead to bigger brain camouflage plays to avoid getting 3D spotted
@stoic breach

nah BF players just want ezmode stealth

no penalties

just shooting people in the back

[stoic breach]

Well you're definitely not wrong about what players want

[glossy locust]

not sure why since every single other mainstream shooter has at the very least minimap spotting

only seige is similar

[stoic breach]

Yeah information generally needs to act as the buffer between being alive and getting killed

Minimap spot, scope glint

3D spot

All that

[glossy locust]

proning camping players are and lack of content have killed BFV nothing else

[stoic breach]

Proning players as a result of bad game design choices

[glossy locust]

attrition is also the worst idea ever

i never understodd why the heavy mgs are only prone deployable

[midnight nimbus]

if people wanna play a game where their enemies can't react or counterplay them being degenerate

play a single player game

[lavish raptor]

lol

rather fight a shitty proning with an lmg then a shitty spamming shotguns

[glossy locust]

i mean there is a way to play this game and dominate just like in other bfs. It just unlike other bfs when you are losing the game is just terrible

[lavish raptor]

atleast then i know i can out aim them

[stoic breach]

At least shotgun users actually stand up when firing

[lavish raptor]

LOL

[stoic breach]

Considering they've got shit all range

And inconsistent pellet spread

[lavish raptor]

running around 1 tapping people from rediculous ranges

[glossy locust]

the best way to use an mmg is to camp on a point and wait for a group to line up

[lavish raptor]

im sorry you literally can not justify shotguns over lmgs

[stoic breach]

Thats the problem with MMGs, they're designed for "waiting"

[untold wraith]

I've done it before.

you have to be real close

[stoic breach]

Shotgun support is dumb anyways

Assault shotguns 😩

[untold wraith]

MMG's are made to be that way though

[glossy locust]

mmgs are actually good in close quarters

[lavish raptor]

mg42 hip fire is fun

[untold wraith]

Everyone mad about camping MMGs but thats literally their role

[stoic breach]

Its a dumb role

Yeah lets design a weapon to make people wait

[untold wraith]

Its setting up a MG nest.

[stoic breach]

In a first person shooter

[glossy locust]

doesn't matter if it's their role or not getting killed by a guy on his belly waiting in a room is not fun gameplay

main reason i hate pubg too

[lavish raptor]

loool

[stoic breach]

Passive gameplay rules all

[untold wraith]

Its pretty realistic

[lavish raptor]

this is true

but

[stoic breach]

Who gives a shit about realistic

[untold wraith]

to deny access to an area by setting up an MG in a strategically sound position

[stoic breach]

BF isnt a milsim

[lavish raptor]

one thing bfv fans cant fucking figure out is when realism fits there own vision

[stoic breach]

BFV doesnt even know what kind of game it wants to be

[glossy locust]

i don't get why people enjoy pubg i tried it again, it's a camping simulator

i guess a lot of people enjoy camping

[untold wraith]

Not always.

[lavish raptor]

^

camping is for shittys

gamesense destroys campers in pubg tbh

[stoic breach]

Aggressive MMG takes significantly more effort because you have to fight against the game to play the way you want with the weapon you want to use

Where's the fun in that

It's challenging because you're using the weapon the way it wasnt meant for

[glossy locust]

mmgs are just bad for me i can't use them

[untold wraith]

I use MMGs a lot because MG42 is really good and fun to play with but also because I can lock down specific parts on the map so my team can manovre better.

[stoic breach]

I hope to god you're talking about Breakthrough

[glossy locust]

honestly i just snipe mmg heads most of the time, but getting killed by one waiting in a house is a terrible feeling

[stoic breach]

Because conquest is the epitome of "braindead" as a gamemode

[untold wraith]

I don't usually wait in a house. I travel to known chokepoints with ample cover so I can cut off valuable enemy routes.

[lavish raptor]

same bryjoe

[glossy locust]

breakthrough is a better mode i think but there are some maps that are instant quit, hamada, fjell

aerodrome pretty bad too

mercury sucks

[lavish raptor]

thats why id prefer fighting them, lot easier to shoot a camper then a speed shotty scrub

[glossy locust]

all maps are alright on conquest IMO

[untold wraith]

Fjell is fun. I play medic and rack up loads of points in revs

[lavish raptor]

especially when you arent using something 720 rpm+

[glossy locust]

I still like conquest better, I wish the game only had conquest TBH

[untold wraith]

Lmao

[stoic breach]

I wish conquest was deleted

[gray saffron]

😐

[stoic breach]

Or at least reworked

[untold wraith]

Breakthrough is good fun, Conquest is good, rush is pretty fun. I like most game modes actually.

[gray saffron]

i mean, i'm mostly found in conquest too, but saying it should only be conquest is a bit too muuuch xD @glossy locust

[glossy locust]

you must be a metro guy, conquest haters are the post BF3 crowd

[untold wraith]

I like most maps too

[stoic breach]

But I would rather just play Breakthrough anyways

I've never even played BF3

[glossy locust]

irony is breakthrough is shitty version of operations in BF1

where it was better in every way

[stoic breach]

Well thats the thing

I would only play BF1 operations or shock operations

[glossy locust]

there are some maps that are unplayable on breakthrough

[stoic breach]

If it was active

[glossy locust]

marita is close

hamada is miserable

[untold wraith]

I played Conquest only in BF1

[stoic breach]

Hamada is so much better on Breakthrough

At least you get to use the entire map

[glossy locust]

low how?

[lavish raptor]

conquest on bf1 is worse IMO, but ops on bf1 are better

[tidal gorge]

Do people still play operaions on bf1 on pc?

[glossy locust]

literally the attackers get stonwalled almsot every tiem on the intial flags

[stoic breach]

Bad attackers I guess

[glossy locust]

dude it's like 80% of the time

[stoic breach]

Planes arent farming defenders properly in that case

[glossy locust]

you must not play a lot

[stoic breach]

Well I cant play alot because nobody fucking plays Breakthrough in this region

[untold wraith]

If a team works well together, they can win in any situation.

[stoic breach]

Its all conquest clan sweat

So I stopped playing

[untold wraith]

^^^^

[glossy locust]

basically like anything it requires medics popping smokes like half the team of medics

you need so many smokes to take the point in hamada

[untold wraith]

use the re-inforcements

[glossy locust]

conquest is battlefield mode and if they actually designed the game and every map around it like they used to it would be the best

[untold wraith]

Pop them smoke barrages

[stoic breach]

Nah, I guess if the team isnt pulling their weight theres nothing you can do about it

But the bombers really should be fucking the defenders up

[glossy locust]

i would argue that the only two game modes should be rush and conquest, but now breakthrough is second most popular

[untold wraith]

one thing that really annoys me is bad tankers

[stoic breach]

I would argue that it should be Breakthrough, Domination and TDM

Rush as well

[glossy locust]

wtf dom and TDM

[untold wraith]

Just learn how to fuckin drive a tank, learn tactics, its not hard

[glossy locust]

it's battlefield