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solid hinge
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Play with the smgs

stiff sky
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still fcking pissed off with the panzerbuchse velocity. why the fck is it sooooooo low

hoary condor
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1 hit kill... on humans. It's never used for vehicles

icy sluice
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Not meant to be used against infantry

hoary condor
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sadly like the BOYS, it is LUL

stiff sky
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@hoary condor no i hunt vehicles.

hoary condor
stiff sky
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most effective if you back up a friendly tank. they wont loose the who ever shot and hit first wins battle

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900m/s would be acceptable. then it would be different to the boys at but its not

hoary condor
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I use PIAT for vehicles

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it's easier and holds more damage... and it's a gadget

echo turtle
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The piat pre nerf

hoary condor
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Even after Nerf is good

echo turtle
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Couldn't breathe whenever there was someone with one close by

hoary condor
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F

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What's your favourite map?

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doesn't matter on the game mode

echo turtle
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Aerodrome

hoary condor
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why?

echo turtle
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It's always chaotic and it feels good to get blasted by snipers on that map

midnight nimbus
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@icy sluice nickel is a gigantic troll but knows what he's talking about in regards to FPS

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t. I actually talk to him

stiff sky
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@hoary condor didnt know you could use the piat to kill vehicles over 300m away when they camp at supply stations

prime pine
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Devestation, Fjell, Rotterdam, Twisted steel, Aerodrome and Arras are my favourite maps.

hoary condor
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Get close enough Kappa

prime pine
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Really good maps i think.

hoary condor
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Rotterdam has too be my fav

prime pine
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I used to hate twisted steel and arras

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But im opening up to them

hoary condor
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Arras = mixed emotions on that

stiff sky
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fjell worst map in bf history. spawn plane uses bomb for a tank on infantry gets 13 kills. see a flag being caped drop bomb get 7 kills brainless as f*ck

hoary condor
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Breakthrough it's good for medic points lol

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everyone snipers.. easy Medic

prime pine
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I just fly mosquito mk fb vi whenever i can

idle breach
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Better than marita

prime pine
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Cause i love being that one asshole bombing tanks

stiff sky
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@hoary condor why would i give the tank a kill

prime pine
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And on fjell i just drop the bomb on delta

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BOOM BABY

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Breakthrough fjell is actually really fun believe it or not.

hoary condor
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True @stiff sky

prime pine
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Sector 1 takes place on C and B

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And sector 2 takes place on E and D

idle breach
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Fjell at least had some unique character, in gameplaywise

hoary condor
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Twisted Steel is good for gameplay

prime pine
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Im glad planes arent on that cause the farming will be even worse

idle breach
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While marita is just shitty conquest grind

coral fiber
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Fjell breakthrough has been the worse for me so far

hoary condor
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Mercury isn't that good either tbf

prime pine
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Twisted steel while im opening up to it. It sometimes punches me in the guts

coral fiber
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Snipers paradise and bad teams

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Always

stiff sky
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i wouldnt mind if i had to give up my secondary for the panzerbuchse real velocity. or if the panzerbuchse did 88 damage at all ranges on all parts of the body except fot the head (do more damage) i wouldnt mind give me bigger velocity so its a different weapon and it has its own charateristics

idle breach
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Yeah merxury could use some fix

hoary condor
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tbf the flaks need some buff

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they do next to no damage

prime pine
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I just drive the churchill mk vii on it or i just run and gun with the bren

idle breach
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Remove the overheat on aa

prime pine
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Flaks are actually in a really good spot. What they need is faster rounds.

coral fiber
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AA in high numbers is a pain

hoary condor
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yeah or longer over-heating

idle breach
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What stupid flak overheats when fired 18 round

hoary condor
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takes longer to overheat

idle breach
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Yeah

prime pine
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Yeah two is enough to take you down. A single one can take you down if you're not careful.

stiff sky
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@hoary condor some buff. they need to do consistant damage. not 1 dm then 3 then 2 then 1 again like wtf

idle breach
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18 is too small

coral fiber
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AA needs some damage buff to bombers

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The damage is fine for fighters

prime pine
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As long as my mosquito isnt touched im all fine

idle breach
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Or just replace it with 20mm flaks

stiff sky
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if you shoot at a plane with aa all your doing is telling a plane were a free kill is

coral fiber
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^

idle breach
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Not like we use 3.7cm flak for tanks anymote

coral fiber
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Pretty much

prime pine
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If AA's get buffed then remove the screen shake planes suffer from when being hit by one.

hoary condor
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they do constant damage but planes repair too quick and to too much health, I've noticed against bombers

idle breach
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Fuxking blenheim gun turret is more powerful than stat AA

stiff sky
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also the flack we have in game fired way faster in reall life so. could just bump up rpm

coral fiber
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If they buff aa damage against fighters i will stop flying

idle breach
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And it's so fucking hard to use for newbs and

prime pine
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I cant begin to tell you guys how annoying it is trying to take an AA out with the 6 Pounders and the 75mm's just to barely see shit cause of the screen shake.

hoary condor
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also noticed the hit range on tanks, they have clearly gone over me, but still get hit haHAA

stiff sky
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@coral fiber awesome

idle breach
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Skilled players dont prefer stat aa anyway

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At least it should be easier to handle

prime pine
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The valentine aa is actually not bad at all

coral fiber
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It's not

hazy wasp
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emplacements should be able to be rotated into position manually by supports

midnight nimbus
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AA needs to be stronger against fighters and bombers

hoary condor
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bombers more than fighers, personally.

idle breach
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I keep seeing people complaining like 'I did landed every shot till overhit and only did 20 damage'

stiff sky
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or they could just balance the whole aa problem by removing the emergency repair

hazy wasp
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idk man AA rips though shit atm on most maps

prime pine
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Lol no

coral fiber
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Atleast buff the damage but lower the range

prime pine
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Emergency repair is vital

stiff sky
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@hazy wasp no unless its people

prime pine
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In vehicles

idle breach
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Increase the velocity and more flashy round

hoary condor
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@idle breach misses 80%..nah i hit them last five shots haHAA

prime pine
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When i fight an aa. I HAVE to use my instant repair. And even so im reduce to 15-20 health. I dont know what'd be a good way to balance aa's really but eh.

coral fiber
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Although if the enemy team has 2 stat AA and an AA tank and you cross their territory
Kiss you plane goodbye

idle breach
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It's not an easy gun to hit yet if you can hit planes with AA easily, you'll not gonna use AA. This is the fundamental problem I see.

stiff sky
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yes thats why it should be taken away. or have a delay on it. shoot a plane 70 damage. just uses emergency repair and flys away or you keep shooting and once you get to about 157 damage it finally dies

midnight nimbus
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nah AA is still too weak against fighters

prime pine
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Yeah often enough two AA's are enough to take down a plane.

midnight nimbus
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needs to be able to easily one pass fighters within 150m

hoary condor
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hitting fighters are easy, getting them out the sky not a problem.. it's them bombers

midnight nimbus
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alone

solid hinge
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when i get dinked by AA I definitely take more damage than I usually deal using it

idle breach
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And give more score reward ffs

midnight nimbus
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stop pilots from doing the stupid ezmode diving strafes

solid hinge
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using AA feels incredibly inconsistent

stiff sky
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@midnight nimbus nope fighter just shoots rockets and thats that aa dead

prime pine
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Oh yeah

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The VB

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You're fucked regardless versus that

midnight nimbus
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yeah that's why AA needs to gib harder

solid hinge
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At least the VB doesnt have quick repair

midnight nimbus
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make pilots have to use rockets from further out

coral fiber
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I just don't wanna get 2 shotted out of the sky

solid hinge
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quick repair is a shit idea for an ability in the first place

stiff sky
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ohhhhh shoot the bomb bay plane explodes that would be amazing

coral fiber
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^

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Rip mosquito

prime pine
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Its already hard enough bombing an AA gunner

stiff sky
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and rockets too wether from aa or another plane

solid hinge
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also holy shit emp rules now

hazy wasp
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also lack of multiple notifications of

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@@Vehicle damaged''

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''Engine damaged''

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etc

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Vehicle disabled'' makes aircombat piss poor

midnight nimbus
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BF4 AA can kill in what, roughly a second minimum with perfect aim?

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that's fine

hazy wasp
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sure you can read the smoke readings like some native american tribesman but coe on give me some fucking feedback to what damage ive done

prime pine
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Like i said. The one thing i ask for is for the screen shake under fire from an AA to be reduced. Aiming your 6 pounders/75MM's at one is nearly impossible once they start opening fire.

coral fiber
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Maybe AA can do more damage if they hit vital parts of the plane

hazy wasp
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Also you should get points for wings damaged

prime pine
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You do get points for damaging parts

hazy wasp
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As annoying as aircraft is at times and it really is

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unless you are a supreme flyboy bro, you get fucked for score in the air

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I'd take out quick repair and have spotting flares as standard on all fighters

prime pine
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I do feel like AA's are in an ok spot. If AA's were to be buffed just remove screen shake in general when getting hit by those.

icy sluice
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Yeah that was from EA Play

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I hope we can select the different Iron Sights

coral fiber
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I'm a hard person to take down when I'm in the 109
I'm really annoying in the air

stiff sky
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@coral fiber flack damages everything in a plane the control surfaces mainly yet all it does in bf 5 is make a pilot go i should probably repair . so they just fly straight at aa through the flack and bomb it and repair

hazy wasp
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support will get BAR, Recon Springfield, Assault Garand and Medic M3

icy sluice
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So, 3 Japanese Troops walk into a BAR

prime pine
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Booo

hoary condor
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Springfield will be good, not sure it will make me not use the M95

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M95 is life

hazy wasp
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come on now, 3 Japanese troops Banzai charge a BAR

coral fiber
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Yeah that's what all pilots do

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@stiff sky

hazy wasp
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give the crazy bastards credit where its due

stiff sky
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@hazy wasp would love to see the m1 garand sniper

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in recon

prime pine
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When i take out an AA gunner on fjell. You know what i do? If they are the spawn aa i'll just spawn camp them.

midnight nimbus
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AA needs to just be strong enough to kill a JU88 with that +35hp in one pass while they try to jet ram you

hazy wasp
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Nah itll be assault

hoary condor
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Garand M1 i wont use as support LUL

midnight nimbus
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that's the necessary level of AA

hoary condor
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STG44 will be nice enough haHAA

hazy wasp
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itll probably be similar to the Gewer

prime pine
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Why? Cause the fuckers that sit in spawn AA's piss me off and i wanted to see them suffer.

hazy wasp
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I still reckon super easy way to balance the assault class for range is no 3x scopes

coral fiber
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So people want AA guns to take down a plane in seconds?

prime pine
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Cause of my actions. I sorta made a guy go 0-20. masudasmile

stiff sky
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cant wait for a gun in the support class thats and lmg or mmg that actually does more damage as all the ones we have no do the same

hazy wasp
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nah khf does because he has a hardon of hate for planes ๐Ÿ˜›

prime pine
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It's going to compete with the Fg42

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But the fg42 is my baby and nothing will replace it

coral fiber
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Y'all just wait until the fliegerfaust comes
Then my flying will be a nightmare

stiff sky
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@prime pine planes are too easy to use. why do they have a 3rd person bombing sight

coral fiber
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For me

prime pine
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To make bombing easier

coral fiber
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I hate that feature

prime pine
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And accurate

coral fiber
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It's stupid

prime pine
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The bombers sight in first person is disorientating

hoary condor
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it is a thrill when shooting as a tail gunner as a spitfire peaks up

stiff sky
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so why not remove the glint from snipers would make sniping easier

coral fiber
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What?

hoary condor
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would make them invisible

coral fiber
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^

prime pine
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Im honestly lost kek

hoary condor
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i'm a sniper and i approve this message

stiff sky
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yeah as they wuld be trained to do

hazy wasp
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Big changes that would improve flying would be, Modular points bonus for each part of planes damaged, an indicator of vehicle damaged at 50 damage, then when they are on 25 health a further notification then obviously the kill note, and also whoever did the msot dsmage to the plane, regardless of suicide or actual other person hit gets a kill, or assist counts as kill

stiff sky
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also if sniper class has 3x scope glint howcome all the other classes dont have glint when they use 3x scope

hazy wasp
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like getting +25 for wing damage per wing would be fair

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gettign +50 for engine damage etc

coral fiber
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What about doing direct damage to the pilot

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With AA

hazy wasp
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can you in V?

coral fiber
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Yeah with the valentine

stiff sky
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@coral fiber nope. just need to do more damage to the plane

hazy wasp
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hmm interesting

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i havent done the AA vehicles yet tbh

stiff sky
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@hazy wasp dont

coral fiber
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But if you take out the pilot the plane is dead

prime pine
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WOW

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Ok so

hazy wasp
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plane just crashes

prime pine
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10 months later i found the option to change the aim assist

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What in the actual fuck

hazy wasp
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but ALL fighters should have spotting flares equipped

stiff sky
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@coral fiber right. so all pilots will just go high where you cant shoot pilot or whatever and aa will still be dogsh*t

coral fiber
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@hazy wasp they should

stiff sky
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aa in bf 1 was pretty balanced

coral fiber
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Uhh that's something smart pilots would do

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Going high

hazy wasp
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height should be a way to get away from AA

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or have reduced damage at range of shot

coral fiber
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Majority of pilots that i know use that method of getting away of aa
It's effective

midnight nimbus
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nah BF1 AA is still shit

hazy wasp
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If a pilot is good enough a pilot should be able to survive stupid shit

midnight nimbus
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bc infantry didn't get any AA until the Burton dropped

coral fiber
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^

hazy wasp
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it is unpopular, but thats just how it should be

coral fiber
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Yeah

midnight nimbus
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the flak ATRG is shit too

hazy wasp
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you have to balance the game agaisnt the median not the best of the ebst

midnight nimbus
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the M1917 is serviceable, but only against really dumb or slow pilots

stiff sky
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@coral fiber nope. sure everyone would do it cus pilots dont let beginers fly. ITS MY PLANE. ITS MINE WHY THE F*CH DID YOU TAKE MY PLANE ITS MINE NOT YOURS STOP FLYING YOU NOOB.

midnight nimbus
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you have to balance the game agaisnt the median not the best of the best
no, that's how you get BFV air/anti air gameplay

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because the median player is awful

coral fiber
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Jeez calm down there buddy

midnight nimbus
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so then you get bigboss, who's an actual flying god

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with a 424 K/D

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bc no one can kill him

stiff sky
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@coral fiber i am clam thats how pilots react when they dont get a plane

hazy wasp
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soemtimes man, you just can't kill them

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there were pilots like that in actual war

midnight nimbus
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and then he'll say himself it's bc of how terrible BF dogfighting is

coral fiber
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Oh

midnight nimbus
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zero depth

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and bc anti air is nonexistent

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he "only" had a 100 K/D in BF4 because anti air actually worked

hazy wasp
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there is plenty of anti air on the battlefield it just is generally unused

coral fiber
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^

midnight nimbus
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dude

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the best anti air in BFV is the Staghound

coral fiber
prime pine
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Cause of the adaptor right?

echo turtle
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Aa guns are death traps

prime pine
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I kinda shot out a stuka pilot with the 6 pounders on the mosquito

coral fiber
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Lol

prime pine
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Accidentally

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That is

hazy wasp
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I use the mosquito cannon as anti plane

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super effective

stiff sky
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@midnight nimbus aa can only killa plane if plane is almost dead or theres 3 aa shooting at one plane. still soooooooo funny how pilots rage when they get killed by aa. its ment to take out planes and it can barly even do that they still rage about it in chat stop aa camping. i just replay as stop flying over our base then

coral fiber
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The minengoschoss munition is too good at taking out a pilot

hazy wasp
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pop one or 2 shots into them then brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

prime pine
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The 88'cs cannon is so fucking fun man.

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The planes i love are the ones with spotting scopes. Why?

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Cause spotting cams (i mean) allow you to support your team even when you're not killing people.

hazy wasp
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because youy're a good etam player and good players appreciate you

prime pine
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YEAH

coral fiber
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Oh yeah

prime pine
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I went 63-0 on a breakthrough match with the ju88C

coral fiber
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Ultimate cheese plane

prime pine
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We won and the amount of score i got from all the spots got me on top of the score board

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Yep!

coral fiber
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The payload is just so much but i don't fly bombers

hazy wasp
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im a fighter or fighterbomber pilot myself

prime pine
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I prefer the blen mk1

hazy wasp
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Bombers are too slow for my liking

prime pine
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88'c

coral fiber
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I'm just an experienced dogfighter

prime pine
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Mosquito mk fb vi and the G6

hazy wasp
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how i miss the F18 from BF3

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that few month period where the air air to ground missiles were so OP was hilarious

untold kayak
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when will the update 6.6 come?

coral fiber
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6.6?

hazy wasp
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he means 4.6

untold kayak
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sry 4.6

coral fiber
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4.6 you mean?

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We don't know yet

prime pine
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End of the month

coral fiber
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Maybe some news next week

prime pine
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Most likely

untold kayak
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K thx

coral fiber
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Stalling is such a cheese move

hazy wasp
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Stalling sucks fucking hell

prime pine
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Its the only move you can make

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Sadly

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Ramming doesnt even kill both of the fucking pilots either. Its so inconsistent.

hazy wasp
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Oh i get it at times but i'd rather just go down with a shred of dignity than that shit

prime pine
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One asshole can ram in to you and the kill

coral fiber
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Honestly i just keep going and turn around while he tries to gain airspeed again
Always effective for me

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Or i use rockets

prime pine
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But then you do the ramming and you die

hazy wasp
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I hit nitrus , fly under above them then loop back onto their tail

coral fiber
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Yeah i do that too

solid hinge
coral fiber
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We know

hazy wasp
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you say rip

midnight nimbus
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good

hazy wasp
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I see ''Guy delievered a prodcut every year''

solid hinge
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implying bfv isn't already full of micros

midnight nimbus
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finally some management that knows how to find success

solid hinge
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it's gonna be no free maps, no free weapons or anything.. just real money transactions ๐Ÿ˜„

hazy wasp
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Also all of my friends that play Fifa say its actually a very good product year on year

midnight nimbus
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who cares if it costs money

prime pine
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With bombers aa a VA i just fly right up and back down at them

midnight nimbus
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good things aren't free

solid hinge
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i care... i pay 60 euros for a game

hazy wasp
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I pay 70 for battlefield

midnight nimbus
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I'll play a good FPS game for hundreds of hours

hazy wasp
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Also all the micro in battlefield is cosmetic

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so if they just sell more cosmetic shit who cares

midnight nimbus
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that's well worth over $100 if it's fun

prime pine
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I paid 120 AUS and i already regret it. masudasmile

solid hinge
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but will they be with this new guy at the helm? i think no

midnight nimbus
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$120 is a fucking steal for something that'll entertain you for potentially thousands of hours

hazy wasp
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the only reason youa re complaining about Micro is a political reason in our wages aren't growing because our governments aren't forcing companies to get the fuck in line and pay us for our hours worked

solid hinge
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Battlefield V doesn't have thousands of hours of entertainment, and you all know it

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BF1 did... BFV don't

hazy wasp
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I will probably have 6-800 hours when my time is finished with V

solid hinge
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that's a far cry from "thousands" of hours

hazy wasp
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I play other games also

solid hinge
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most people do ๐Ÿ˜‰

hazy wasp
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I would have thousands if it was my only game i played

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333hours at the moment

solid hinge
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this live service mode is junk.... give me back my paid dlc's... atleast there was regular good content with that model

hazy wasp
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I know your MO here though, you are coming in here with a negative story about someone behind a MTX part of an EA franchise and multiplying that by the current opinion a lot of people have of battlefield to stirr an argument , but like we all don't really care for the most part anymore

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Also there are plenty fo Live service games that say otherwise

solid hinge
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name one (except Division 2)

hazy wasp
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For Honor, Siege, Warframe, Fortnite, Now Destiny 2

midnight nimbus
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ik BFV doesn't have thousands of hours of play time

hazy wasp
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DOTA 2

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League

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Apex

midnight nimbus
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shit, i only played bc i got it for free

solid hinge
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none of those games are live service games @hazy wasp

midnight nimbus
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but I'd love to see a BF worth playing for thousands of hours

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good leadership is the only way you'll get there

hazy wasp
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Ghost Recon Wildlands

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yes yes they are

solid hinge
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i would love to see a BF game worth putting thousands of hours into... but that's simply not a reality right now

hazy wasp
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those games I mentioned are the definition of Live service dude

solid hinge
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then you clearly have no clear understanding of the live service server-client setup

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either way, i think it's bad news, and i hope to be proven wrong

hazy wasp
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Ask me to name games other than game you stated, then when I manage to name multiple, you tell me that the games I listed are not games that are runnign as a live service model

solid hinge
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i have 503 hours in BF1 and 226 in BFV, even though i played BFV since the first alpha

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don't much like the state of the game in BFV, so i don't play it as much

prime pine
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Ive got 760 hours into battlefield 5 and ive seen every shitty fucking part of it

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Im honestly surprised i still play it

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Nvm. 758.

solid hinge
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the only reason i still play it to be honest, is to have some fun with a premade squad of friends on voice comms... i never play it by my self anymore

prime pine
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From the shitty launch, from the shitty implementation of battlefield coins, from all these horrible bugs. Its eroded my hope for dice.

marble phoenix
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we already know this was DICE throwaway

solid hinge
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and all the reused assets from BF1

marble phoenix
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they working on next gen

prime pine
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Being honest

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I dont even mind the re used assets

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As long as it can be repurposed

buoyant knot
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Game didn't stay long enough in the oven to cook

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If you know what I mean

solid hinge
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anyway... basically, Live service games are psychological traps designed to keep players in the game even if they aren't necessarily enjoying the game, while simultaneously attempting to manipulate them into spending more money in the game on top of whatever the base price of the game is ... which is complete shit

prime pine
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But shit like door sprinting is almost non functional

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Its proved how much of a joke live service is when you have an incompetant game dev tean starving everyone of content.

hazy wasp
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Battlefield no matter what you think of it is still the only type of its game, that does what it does, well enough on console for it to ramain fun

solid hinge
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Battlefield V will have a hell of a hard time when the new Modern Warfare launches

hazy wasp
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V is buggy, but does a lot of things better than all the previous and a few thigns worse

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CoD has 0 teamplay

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if you can shoot good you can teamstomp people

solid hinge
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oh really? ๐Ÿ™‚ ... ok, we'll see

hazy wasp
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i played the Alpha it is CoD, its not Battlefield

marble phoenix
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COD = arcade pace

solid hinge
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you played a 2v2 mode that was awesome

buoyant knot
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@hazy wasp you played 2v2

hazy wasp
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CoD will sell more than BF

marble phoenix
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BF = closer to sim

prime pine
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Funny enough on cod i commanded a team on domination

hazy wasp
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it always does outside BF1

prime pine
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Not dom

marble phoenix
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COD always does lol

prime pine
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Demolition

marble phoenix
#

that aint saying its better

solid hinge
#

@hazy wasp it will have 100 player conquest mode etc

prime pine
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Cod always finds a way to pull people in

hazy wasp
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and it will run like ass

midnight nimbus
#

I mean for a lot of people, MW is just the BF4 experience we've been looking for

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but better

solid hinge
#

indeed... alot better

midnight nimbus
#

CoD always runs well wdym

buoyant knot
#

Let's remember that BC3 has been in production for a LONG time now

prime pine
#

The reason why i am avoiding cod is just the micro transactions

midnight nimbus
#

*cite sources pls*

hazy wasp
#

CoD scaling to 100 in a tight environment?

marble phoenix
#

Bad Company III a next gen launch title

hazy wasp
#

call me skeptical

prime pine
#

We dont even know if it'll be a thing

solid hinge
#

@buoyant knot do you have any source to verify your claim? because there's no official confirmation, or even hint of this

buoyant knot
#

@marble phoenix yes, and has been in production before bf1 launched

midnight nimbus
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good thing you don't have to play 100p ๐Ÿ™‚

hazy wasp
#

I know im just refering to it ๐Ÿ˜›

buoyant knot
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@solid hinge leaks that surfaced this April

solid hinge
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"leaks" ... haha

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ok

midnight nimbus
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will prolly run better than BF

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no destruction or vehicles to worry ab

marble phoenix
#

@buoyant knot what you getting at?

midnight nimbus
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way less fine textures and shit

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no foliage

hazy wasp
#

I mean thats not hard considering BF seems to be heavily CPU limited atm

buoyant knot
#

Did you watch levelcap's theory video about the release date switch between bc3 and bfv?

prime pine
#

Yeah. A THEORY. A possibility.

marble phoenix
#

nah i only watch Jrob and Westie's vidoes

solid hinge
#

@hazy wasp heavily CPU limited? what on earth do you mean?

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@buoyant knot put away your tin foil hat for a second ok?

buoyant knot
#

@marble phoenix so basically, supposedly, bc3 was supposed to launch after bf1 but something happened and bfv launched instead

solid hinge
#

"supposedly" ... "theory" ... dude

prime pine
#

Like shit people thought there would be a battlefield 2143 (Apparently)

marble phoenix
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@buoyant knot got you, whcih gives me more reason to believe in the rumors of it being a Luanch title. for next gen

solid hinge
#

why wouldn't you follow bf1 with bfv

buoyant knot
#

@solid hinge isn't it the truth that it is a theory?

prime pine
#

Oh fun fact. Doom 3 takes place on 2142 kek.

solid hinge
#

you can reuse animations and guns and shit

#

no @buoyant knot ... it's a hopeful dream of some people that have no substance in any confirmed reality

prime pine
#

Wish we got new knife animations but eh. What ever.

hazy wasp
#

its more likely the fallout from the Battlefront shit led to the damage to the Battlefield tesam

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if not in manpower, in studio morale

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that game had plenty of issues but people were super dickheads to the developers on social

buoyant knot
#

@solid hinge sure then. it's your reality that no one knows anything and that only you know for certain that it isn't going to happen

reef mountain
#

the hell there gonna fix the ping/connection issue end of the month thats jsut shit

buoyant knot
#

Just let it be and we'll see what happens

hazy wasp
#

end of the onth is like enxt week tbf

reef mountain
#

yer but its still shit

solid hinge
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@buoyant knot that's not what i said... but you claimed that it was in development, based on theories some youtuber had, which is not reality

hazy wasp
#

ah it is but its only shit for a week and not an entire month

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gotta take the small victories with this game

buoyant knot
#

@solid hinge my statement was based on said theories, I never claimed anything

visual blade
#

thank god I havenโ€™t encountered a ping issue

reef mountain
#

we was gonna fix it this week but we gonna roll back the fix thats jsut dice all over

solid hinge
#

until there's official confirmation that BC3 is indeed in development and everyone can rejoice (that wants BC3) it's all rumors, leaks and false statements

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and shouldn't be peddled around as facts

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just saying

buoyant knot
#

You were the only one here that concluded I was saying facts

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And I agree with you we should wait

solid hinge
#

and you were the only one saying that it was for a fact in development

dreamy bronze
#

im at cschool rn

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school

buoyant knot
#

Whatever

hazy wasp
#

we'll know March next year anyway

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After GDC

buoyant knot
#

I can't wait for the easter eggs

hazy wasp
#

wait for all the piss takes of CoD again

buoyant knot
#

Competition is good

solid hinge
#

CoD:MW will turn alot of Battlefield players to play it with all the new "battlefield-like" game modes, but bigger and better... probably

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i'm gonna be one of them... i might be wrong in the end, but it sure looks good at the moment

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and i for one, really enjoyed the thrill of the 2v2 game mode

hazy wasp
#

you keep saying itll make battlefield but bigger and better and I don;t think it will

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itll lack the class based squad combat

solid hinge
#

it 100% will with 100 player conquest maps

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that is in fact, bigger

hazy wasp
#

more players isn;t always more fun lol

solid hinge
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that's for sure, but it's bigger, and stomping into Battlefield territory

#

we'll see... i'm gonna try it out anyway

buoyant knot
#

There's a reason bf hasn't gone past the 64 player mark for years. Only now that cod will go past it DICE will try to increase it too

prime pine
#

My biggest honest absolute concern with the pacific theatre would be the visibility

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Fuckwits with mmg's hiding in the bushes will fuck me off to no end.

hazy wasp
#

i mean its accurate

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''the trees are talking japanese''

solid hinge
#

they wont increase is... if we're learned anything over the past months, is that small maps with few players is the thing of the future for Battlefield.... look at Al Sundaan... where is it? I mean how bad of a bug can it be to not release it in 64 player mode?

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never heard of such a thing for any map in any battlefield game

prime pine
#

I dont care about realism. If it downgrades the gameplay then why bother with realism?

solid hinge
#

there must be something else going on if we're beeing a little conspiratorial

hazy wasp
#

all due respect lad, but are you here to just shit on Battlefield or here to discuss it ๐Ÿ˜›

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Just do what I do to the foliage when people start camping, lay waste to it with bombs

solid hinge
#

i'm not here to shit on battlefield... i love battlefield, but i don't love the state of the game where it's at now.... it's a complete garbage heap... which is why i play alot more BF1 than i do V

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because that game is solid

hazy wasp
#

its really not a complete garbage heap, but alright

solid hinge
#

and i want to enjoy battlefield V so bad, since it's ww2 and i love world war history... i was so excited about it! and then we get what we have now..... it hurts

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i dont know why they have trees that go all the way to the ground

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people running into shrubbery shouldnt make them invisible

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it's called "camouflage uniforms"... that's what they do ๐Ÿ˜‰

lavish raptor
#

whats the best gamemode for pure xp rn

hazy wasp
#

CQ or Squad CQ

lavish raptor
#

aight chief thx

hazy wasp
#

just keep capping points

solid hinge
#

Squad sq is fun with friends

prime pine
#

If dice does an all round update on the trees i will praise them to no end

hazy wasp
#

if you push it in CQ you can get like 20k XP per round

prime pine
#

And that change is that so it wont make fuckers invisible

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Yeah if you get a good round on squad cronk you can get a lot.

solid hinge
#

some trees you can climb up, which is excellent! keep that feature, or bug, or whatever it is

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Update 4.7 removed trees made every map a completely blank canvas to help with visibility

eternal tundra
#

hey guys

solid hinge
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great update

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It's not the uniforms that make people invisible

eternal tundra
#

how are you ?

solid hinge
#

it was sarcastic @solid hinge

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They just.. you cant see them through the leaves

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Oh

eternal tundra
#

im can role ?

solid hinge
#

heck

eternal tundra
#

maybe ?

solid hinge
#

hehe

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๐Ÿ˜›

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Irl if you run through a bush it hurts

solar blaze
#

bf 5 time

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๐Ÿ•

hazy wasp
#

lifehack for bush combat, use a knife

solid hinge
#

sure does Aula

hazy wasp
#

itll track when bullets cant go through trees#

solid hinge
#

oh shit

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that's a good idea

prime pine
#

They can simply remove the leaves from the bottom part of the tree

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So you can see straight through

solid hinge
#

@solid hinge one ww2 veteran soldier in a book i'm reading said something like "we concidered every tree, every bush, every rock as the enemy... better to shoot at them than them shooting at you", which i thought was brilliant

#

time to go bush stabbing

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I would shoot everything I see but I dont have enough BULLETS

prime pine
#

I do!

solid hinge
#

maybe DICE read that book, eh?

icy sluice
solid hinge
#

play as support... endless bullets

icy sluice
#

Literally the only person who went up against me was an Assault with a Ribeyrolles 1918 at the Balcony on Devastation Fortress

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So I got really lucky

solid hinge
#

well done @icy sluice ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ‘

#

Attacking fortress devastation is a super good place for headshots

icy sluice
#

There was only one medic on my team

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and he revived me when I got to 5

visual blade
#

fortress is fun af

midnight nimbus
#

foliage on a map was a mistake

prime pine
#

I should probably play grind for the assignments and shit

#

Ugh

midnight nimbus
#

sparse foliage or having foliage just on rocks or walls that you can't climb was just fine in FPS for years

prime pine
#

I hate to have to do it

solid hinge
#

all maps should be flat asphalt and nothing else in a square 10x10 kilometers with 1000 players

midnight nimbus
#

....soooo Panzerstorm?

solid hinge
#

haha exactly! ๐Ÿ˜„

opaque pawn
#

Lol

icy sluice
#

All maps should be an untextured cube with no height deviation or cover

opaque pawn
#

No vehicles because you canโ€™t see stuff behind them

#

Poor visibility hah, we canโ€™t see people in tanks!

icy sluice
opaque pawn
#

My goodness

solid hinge
#

looks legit... let's do that... i'm in

opaque pawn
#

wait

icy sluice
opaque pawn
#

Also why not make everyone invisible

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I mean, everyone has it

solid hinge
#

true

opaque pawn
#

So itโ€™s all fair and square

#

Perfectly balanced as all things should be

solid hinge
#

that would indeed be a perfect balance..... flat 10x10 kilometer map, with nothing but invisible players, and 1000 of them.... can't get more balanced and fair than that

ionic girder
#

Nah, those weapons though. Imagine getting headshots at 500 meters. Or shooting panzerfausts at 300 meters. Give everyone a scout knife.

#

What I would like to see is an entire 32 man team in conquest all use the same class and the same weapon then congregate to one or two key locations on the map to best utilize that class and weapon to it's advantage.

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Say, 32 players all use the MG42 max upgraded with the 200 round belt all bipoded on the ground.

#

Imagine that wave of bullets flying at you as you run at them.

prime pine
#

Honestly. I wouldnt mind having to get 40 100M kills overall with a sniper

solid hinge
#

I wouldn't mind getting 4km worth of kills total

#

I can't remember the last time I shot at someone 100 metres away who wasnt proning

#

i wouldn't mind getting 8 cubic meters worth of kills either

#

chunks..

ionic girder
#

I'ma just sit here and put some notes into my trombone.

hallow perch
#

whos bright idea was it to make a semi auto shotgun one shot kill

ionic girder
#

Lol, the range on the 12G is pretty bad though.

hallow perch
#

I keep getting one shots though

ionic girder
#

I think there is a range specialization that makes that easier.

hallow perch
#

no wonder noobs use this, just point shoot and toot

#

nah this was level 0, too good at what it does

midnight nimbus
#

it's not like the 12G Auto fires that fast either

hallow perch
#

damn I can see this weapon generating large amounts of salt

ionic girder
#

I hear it's not a great shotgun until it's ranked up. But, I personally don't use it. So I'm not sure.

solid hinge
#

It's not a very good weapon in the first place

#

You're left with no ranged option

ionic girder
#

Counter sniping with the M30 Drilling is fun.

solid hinge
#

The suomi and tommy only kill slightly slower and they get 50 mag

#

The drilling is legit fun

hallow perch
#

Tommy is very good now

ionic girder
#

Lol, can hipfire the sten at 60 meters and get kills with the 4.4 SMG nerf.

hallow perch
#

I only started using the 12g because this guy was stalking me with one lol

#

if one player starts using a shotgun expect the entire server to use them

solid hinge
#

Yup

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That happens a lot

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One person uses it on squad conquest, next thing you know like 10 people are

prime pine
#

The 12G while it has the least potential actually fits in the meta very nicely.

#

I talk about the meta a lot. But i truly do say the 12G is one of the better shotguns.

ionic girder
#

Hm, can't send an image of the nerf issue.

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Apparently I don't have that permission.

icy sluice
#

!!regular

ruby trailBOT
#

The Regular role is earned by members who are active, welcoming and resourceful on the server.

ionic girder
#

But supposedly SMG recoil was reduced to increase the intended range of those weapons. Admittedly I don't know what the intended range is, but I'm pretty sure hip firing at 60 meters and killing is pretty powerful and unrealistic for an SMG.

solid hinge
#

They dont have that much hipfire range

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The recoil changes are good for them though

ionic girder
#

I wished I could send the clip.

#

But I hipfired someone down one of the hall ways on Aerodrome and killed them.

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With a sten.

solid hinge
#

That's not 60 metres!

ionic girder
#

Perhaps 30.

#

I would have to go in game and mark it to be honest.

#

But trigger tapping with that is crazy accurate with almost no break.

solid hinge
#

That's how tap fire works in general!

#

It'll be accurate cause you're shooting slower and it's got big drop off

icy sluice
#

I feel so happy to get a gold Kar98k... now the RSC.

solid hinge
#

Good luck getting headshots with that raptor

ionic girder
#

Perhaps his health was low then. But it honestly just surprised me I hipfired and killed the guy.

#

Lol, that corridor is 70 meters long.

solid hinge
#

........it is?

ionic girder
#

Halfway-ish through, C: Aerodrome, second paragraph.

strange dome
#

O boy 20days before private games. Only if they fixed the damn high ping issue now cba to play with / vs 90+ pings. its 2019 If I want to play against people with 90+ Ill join a EAST COAST US server. :x;;x;x;x;x

halcyon burrow
#

Wait they fixed ping ??

midnight nimbus
#

yeah hipfire with enhanced grips + polished action is good to 30m now

#

just like BF3

strange dome
#

@halcyon burrow Not yet :c

solid hinge
#

hipfire EMP rules

coral fiber
#

Omg yes

#

It's so good now

solid hinge
#

i have hipfire RSC and its fucking shit

coral fiber
#

Ew

halcyon burrow
#

And when they will do it ?

coral fiber
#

@halcyon burrow patch 4.6

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I haven't had any ping problems

#

Maybe some high pings but most of the time it's normal

halcyon burrow
#

I have

#

Still about 100 ms

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And higher

coral fiber
#

That sucks

halcyon burrow
#

And other games 25 ms

solid hinge
#

Yeah i get 100ms aswell but its not too bad

halcyon burrow
#

But not too good

coral fiber
#

I normally get 30-40 ms but now it's around 60 but it doesn't affect my gameplay surprisingly

ionic girder
#

Then I'm getting 150 sometimes.

solid hinge
#

I get sometimes 1600 ๐Ÿ˜„

#

But yes its worse after this patch

#

A friend of mine got 5000 once

coral fiber
#

I thought my internet was having problems once because my ping was over 200
Until i realized i was in a euro server
LULW

midnight nimbus
#

@solid hinge imo hipfire upgrades aren't really worth it on any non-SMGs but the 1907 and a few of the SARs

halcyon burrow
#

Yeah but sometimes i start shopping and miss everything cause of ping Sadcatthumb

midnight nimbus
#

you're only upgrading from shit to slightly less shit

soft storm
#

Ping!

solid hinge
#

Huh

#

?

coral fiber
#

Ping

soft storm
#

PONG!

solid hinge
#

Ping?

soft storm
solid hinge
#

@coral fiber your best as a pilot on Panzerstorm

#

??

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@midnight nimbus agreed with that

#

the hipfire spec on SARs usually comes with detach mag anyway

#

@solid hinge Best smg in medic class now?

midnight nimbus
#

yeah G 1-5, Turner, MAS, G43, and M1A1 (kinda) are worth taking hipfire upgrades on

#

and the 1907

solid hinge
#

probably still suomi, but tommy is super duper easy to control now

midnight nimbus
#

but nothing else that's not an SMG

solid hinge
#

thx\

midnight nimbus
#

imo, EMP might be the best SMG now

solid hinge
#

Flying a spitfire in first person at low altitude on panzerstorm is the closest I can go to patriotism

midnight nimbus
#

EMP/ZK/MP28

solid hinge
#

for real?

midnight nimbus
#

yeah that's the top tier imo

solid hinge
#

EMP is accurate but it's still slow firing

midnight nimbus
#

Suomi/Thompson/MAB below it

#

EMP can stack double hipfire with barrel bedding

#

and it finally got the slight hrec reduction it needed

solid hinge
#

admittedly it feels fucking good to use

#

What specs on mp28

midnight nimbus
#

honestly

#

whatever you want

#

can't mess it up

solid hinge
#

it's that good?

#

Damn

#

it felt shitty when I used it before patch

midnight nimbus
#

it's not that amazing, but it won the most from the recent buff

#

LLLR for bigmag hipfire + fast strafing

#

LLLL for maxed out bigmag hipfire

#

RRRL for good accuracy + decent hipfire

#

RRRR if you like to strafe in ADS

#

LRRL is a decent hybrid of ADS and hipfire abilities as well

#

RLLR is another good hybrid of ADS and hipfire, with more favor towards hipfire

solid hinge
#

it really has it all

midnight nimbus
#

idk you can't mess it up

solid hinge
#

make more specs like this pls

dense bone
#

ADS all day

scenic beacon
#

But the 34 has a bayonet

reef mountain
#

soo whats the possibility of peopel already being in the mid 80s levels?

midnight nimbus
#

no reason to use the MP34 anymore tbh

#

unless you're a huge sucker for quick aim

scenic beacon
#

Or a medic bayonet

midnight nimbus
#

but if you take quick aim, you can't use high velocity bullets

#

so MP34 is pretty meh anyways

dense bone
#

am a huge sucker for quick aim

midnight nimbus
#

it's not that necessary for SMGs tbh

#

and the MP34 fires so slow you want to be already preaimed anyways

#

so might as well take the ZK instead

dense bone
#

just hearing a gun doesnt have quick aim makes me not want to use it

#

i love quick aim for any gun, i hardly ever hipfire

midnight nimbus
#

and no reason to take 600 RPM MP34 when the MAB and EMP exist

solid hinge
#

but my minuscule variant damage model

midnight nimbus
#

quick aim makes way less of a difference for SMGs than it does for other guns

scenic beacon
#

but it has a bayonet

dense bone
#

its a mental thing, i have to ads, if it ads slow with my reaction gaming i hate it

solid hinge
#

as much as I love bayonet the mp34 bayonet makes me sad

#

because its up against barrel bedding

#

on the supposedly best ranged smg

midnight nimbus
#

SMG ADS time is perfectly useful without quick aim though

#

other guns have shit ADS time

dense bone
#

the faster im looking down sights, the faster i feel i can effectively shoot and the more i feel i can do more

midnight nimbus
#

yeh

scenic beacon
#

If only there was a carbine with a bayonet

midnight nimbus
#

at that point, might as well take MP40 or EMP

solid hinge
#

Alright so I found that stick mag tommy is decent after the patch

#

And so is the suomi

midnight nimbus
#

they were always decent tbh

solid hinge
#

Are any other smgs better now?

midnight nimbus
#

MP28 EMP and ZK were the biggest winners

solid hinge
#

5 bucks says jungle carbine gets bayonet

#

it wont have the suppressor or nade launcher gimmick

#

garand should get it as well, meaning the first semi with a bayonet

#

Can't wait for Americans

#

It's like 2 months from now right

#

1 month left of this chapter and 1 month break till chapter 5

lost herald
#

Pew pew PING!

solid hinge
#

Noice

#

bang bang bang bang PING click clack

#

BAnZAi

#

THEYRE IN THE T R E E S

#

Imagine a pacific night map

#

Theyre adding a ir scope so we might get one lol

weak marsh
#

I cannot wait for them too

#

BFV might have a rough start but his future is brighter then ever

solid hinge
#

Maybe

#

Still female marines will be a bit stupid but ok

#

I hope the default characters are male

#

Fucking brit defaults only have one white guy lmao

icy sluice
#

We'll get at least 4 women and 4 men as faces

solid hinge
#

Itll be the same as brits

#

For us

#

But i hope the default classes are male

#

Because defaults are very commin

#

Common

#

I hope we dont get shitty cosmetics

weak marsh
#

Is not that of a deal

#

And no don't worry about cosmetics

dark sorrel
#

I wish I had such optimism :(

weak marsh
#

By seeing the last cosmetics for me it is

marsh dirge
#

guys

#

when is chapter 5 out

#

it said june 2020

#

thats kind of hard to believe

#

is that tru or nah

#

?

prime pine
#

Who the hell said that

dark sorrel
#

I don't mean to sound pessimistic but cosmetics looking good in BFV doesn't really do it for me

prime pine
#

Chapt 5 will be out in two months

prime pine
#

I stopped caring about the negative news, Patron.

marsh dirge
#

@prime pine thanks for telling me

#

is it out in october

prime pine
#

And became naturally pessimistic

#

October will be a gap

#

But we'll still get unlocks

marsh dirge
#

soooooooooooo its out in 2 months

#

epic

weak marsh
#

Did stormchaser or GI look bad ? For me no compared to the first one

marsh dirge
#

i cant wait to flyy some american bombers

north ravine
#

You know what im looking for in october

marsh dirge
#

welll

solid hinge
#

Things are getting better

north ravine
#

CoD

#

Not the pacific

marsh dirge
#

hopefully they add bombers

#

to americaaaaaaa

solid hinge
#

They will

marsh dirge
#

i want a B-25

north ravine
#

they aint adding shit until a year later

hazy wasp
#

we'll get B17's

north ravine
#

al soondan

marsh dirge
#

they fricken better @solid hinge

solid hinge
#

Yeah ok dude @north ravine

weak marsh
#

And yes there will be 4 weeks of gap between chapter 4 and chapter 5

north ravine
#

@solid hinge mark my words

opaque pawn
#

Lol

solid hinge
#

Well get rewards those 4 weeks

#

Ok freeze

opaque pawn
#

Redditor freeze

#

lol

north ravine
#

Not a redditor

#

just a realist

marsh dirge
#

i just want them m4a1 sherman!

solid hinge
#

They will dude

weak marsh
#

I want the Jungle Carbine

opaque pawn
#

Realist? Really lol

solid hinge
#

Dont you worry!

north ravine
#

I already accepted the failure that is bf5

marsh dirge
#

i want to do RP's

#

that would be fun

north ravine
#

but I will play it even its a failure

opaque pawn
#

Pessimist more like it @north ravine

north ravine
#

because its fun

solid hinge
#

Its not that bad tbh but ok

marsh dirge
#

imagine iwo jima RP

solid hinge
#

Yeah

opaque pawn
#

Imagine

#

Just imagine

solid hinge
#

Since were gonna get rsp bfv will get milsim comunities

marsh dirge
#

everyone imagine

north ravine
#

They better add okinawa

#

or else

#

im uninstalling

opaque pawn
#

Or else what

solid hinge
#

Wake is back btw

marsh dirge
#

or imagine creating a mapp!!!!!!

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that would be dope af

opaque pawn
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Yeah

hazy wasp
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Wake Island, Iwo Jima and probably Guadocanal

marsh dirge
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like a editor

north ravine
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Hah we cant even rent servers

opaque pawn
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That would be dope

north ravine
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Let alone create maps

marsh dirge
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that would be sic

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k

opaque pawn
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Yeah

solid hinge
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Youll be able to get free serves in like 20 days bruh

prime pine
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Just remain pessimistic of what dice does

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Too tired of it all

north ravine
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^

marsh dirge
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@DICE

opaque pawn
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Oops no ping

prime pine
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Oh i forgot private servers

north ravine
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What about team changing

solid hinge
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Theyre adding rsp this month and itll be free lmao

north ravine
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the most simple feature is not in the game

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because yea 32 vs 20 is fair

opaque pawn
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Itโ€™s not very simple tbh

solid hinge
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maybe the server owners can actually balance the servers

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Yep

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Guys

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Stop crying plz

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To be fair team balancing is an essential part of an online game

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It's still missing after 9 months

north ravine
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^

marsh dirge
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imagine making a d-day map

opaque pawn
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Yo 7 dollar fridge fallout 76

midnight nimbus
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until you get VIP slots and clan stacking

solid hinge
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Like over everything else wrong with the game

marsh dirge
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or being able to make assets

solid hinge
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Team balancing missing is the biggest

marsh dirge
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like tanks, planes, eg

solid hinge
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i already get clan stacked

dark sorrel
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Man I miss making maps for CoD 1 and 2

midnight nimbus
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people acting like private servers are going to be some kind of savior while forgetting that 90% of RSP servers were hot fucking garbage

solid hinge
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Where are you from @marsh dirge

north ravine
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Man i miss not being piped down by a full team

marsh dirge
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the last place to be discovered on earth

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New FUcking Zealand

solid hinge
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Wow

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Sheepland

marsh dirge
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its like 9:14AM rn

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im in school

north ravine
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What the fuck do you expect from dice

marsh dirge
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not doing work

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gg life

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gg

north ravine
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they havent added the bob semple tank

dark sorrel
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I'd love to make a Rats Map for BF V

solid hinge
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Its 12:14 pm here lmao

marsh dirge
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ah yes

north ravine
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enslaved

marsh dirge
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europian

solid hinge
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Panzertractor

dark sorrel
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Fighting crazily over the Fridge cap point

marsh dirge
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european

north ravine
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We just want some maps DICE

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PLZ

solid hinge
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Well get maps

north ravine
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I mean factions

solid hinge
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Hang in there

marsh dirge
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imagine Normany Campaign

solid hinge
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Were getting factions

marsh dirge
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mmmm

north ravine
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WHERE MY FRANCE AND ITALY AND SOVIET UNION

marsh dirge
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USSRRRRRRRRRRRR

solid hinge
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France and italy nah

marsh dirge
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rocket TANKSSS

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URAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

solid hinge
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Soviets later

marsh dirge
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URAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

north ravine
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They litteraly fought all the war in france

marsh dirge
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ura with me wtf

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URAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

solid hinge
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Italians and french sucked ass anyway

opaque pawn
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Urnaaahhhhh

marsh dirge
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i URAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

north ravine
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why arent we getting some kind of french resistance factions vs vichy france troops

marsh dirge
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..

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sorry, ill stop

solid hinge
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U R A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A AA A A A A A AA A

opaque pawn
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I (insert battlecharge from mass murdering country)

north ravine
solid hinge
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TONIGHT WE TAKE VORKUTA

dark sorrel
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Italy vs Abyssinia would be cool

solid hinge
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Spears lmao

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Abyssinia lmao

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Rocks and spears?

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Sticks?

north ravine
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I lost faith in bf5

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fuck you dice

solid hinge
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Cool you said thag like 50 times

dark sorrel
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Shout out to the time they ambushed a fuckload of Italian soldiers, castrated them and sent them home

north ravine
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This guy still doesnt wanna accept the truth

solid hinge
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Did you really expect france and italy

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@solid hinge people need attention

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Like did you?

north ravine
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you're still defending that shitload of a game so badly

opaque pawn
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Yeah he is

solid hinge
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@north ravine I like BFV is that bad?

opaque pawn
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Whatโ€™s wrong with that

north ravine
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You'll be disappointed

solid hinge
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Did yoh think they would add fucking france and and italy

marsh dirge
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@solid hinge yes

north ravine
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Yes i fucking did

hazy wasp
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LOL

opaque pawn
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Loser

solid hinge
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Then do something about it

hazy wasp
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hitreg is shit in firestorm too I see

opaque pawn
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You got baited freeze

marsh dirge
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if france joined a faction in bfv they would lose 650 - 0

solid hinge
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You do realise they need to make maps, cosmetics, elites, voicelines and vehicles for every faction, dont you?

north ravine
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Yea

summer fog
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Who want to join a Xbox battle field clan

marsh dirge
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or they would have a surrender button ๐Ÿ˜‚

solid hinge
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They cant just put out factions like that lmao

north ravine
solid hinge
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France wouldโ€™ve surrendered before the match even began

hazy wasp
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btw for get ''top 8 in firestorm' challenge

solid hinge
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Italy would lose every match no matter what

hazy wasp
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if you get top 8 squads?

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does it count

dark sorrel
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Abyssinia went to battle with rifles, cavalry and artillery in addition to swords and spears

north ravine
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Why is that

hazy wasp
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anyone?

solid hinge
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Afaik its top 8 people

hazy wasp
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fuck sake

solid hinge
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@dark sorrel idc about abyssinia. Give me USA, Soviet Union, Canada and Japan.

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If you had common sense you wuould realise that minor factions wont be added lmao

north ravine
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Italy is a minor faction ?

solid hinge
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Britain, germany, us, russia and japan

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Thats all well get

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Italy wasnโ€™t a minor faction

north ravine
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Tell it to that guy

dark sorrel
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"well explore the unseen parts of World War 2"

north ravine
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he's lost it

solid hinge
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Italy lost to greece lmao

north ravine
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And?

solid hinge
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So what

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Greece had outdated ww1 weaponry

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And half the soldiers italy did

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They still fought against the brits and the yanks in north africa, sicily and mainland italy

north ravine
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The persian empire lost to greece

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and they were greatly outnumbered

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they still won

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doesnt matter

solid hinge
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Italy sucked ass

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Get over it

dark sorrel
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Greece was weird

solid hinge
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@solid hinge they sucked ass but they were not a minor faction

north ravine
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OK YEA UUSSR LOST TO FINLAND

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get over it

weak violet
solid hinge
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Italy lost lile every battle they fought

dark sorrel
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Like Metaxas was basically a fascist but stayed neutral and the second he died the Greeks allied with the UK and got rolled by Nazi germany

solid hinge
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Yes

weak violet
dark sorrel
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They included Italy in BF1 and they had some of the best maps and uniforms

solid hinge
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Greece didnt surrender tho unlike FRANCE

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Absolutely loved Italy in bf1

north ravine
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This guy is basically saying italy shouldnt be added because they lost every battle

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Wtf does that even mean

solid hinge
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The warstory was also great

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No

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Italy is nowhere near as important to be addes in bfv

north ravine
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Thats just your opinion

solid hinge
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Smh

dark sorrel
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Didn't they get some cool attention in BF1942

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Road to Rome was it?

solid hinge
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If you ever expected italy or france, im sorry, youre dumb

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@dark sorrel yup

dark sorrel
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I mean

solid hinge
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They can barely add major factions

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Let alone smaller ones

north ravine
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Italy isnt a small faction

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wtf do you mean

dark sorrel
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The design brief for BFV was to depict the unexplored conflicts of World War 2 so idk why you think including France and Italy is far flung