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or like DODS where you have to shoot all 7 until reload
You can just pull the thing back and force the clip out
Or
I dont know if its possible
But you can put in seperate rounds in directly into the clip
The reciever
@pastel lion I'm pulling the video back up from a data mine. Can't remember which video it's pulled from exactly, not to mention that it might not even be officially released.
Heard it was risky/dangerous with the garand
Correction, not a data mine, but leaked. Give me a bit and I'll share it. š
Oh i see
hmm Hell Let Loose is on sale
I will have a black garand
PINK
MERMAID
man i wish that there would be better sights for snipers...
in BF1 and BF4 Support class feels like the most underpowered one (especially in BF4). How is it like in BFV?
Support is MUCH better.
it's a lot better
I can say this with 10 million points on support.
BIG GUNS
I personally like staying stationary and defending.
Fg42, Bren/Lewis and the 12G/M30 drilling are the best weapons for it.
Mmg's are infuriating weapons. I avoid them.
And what about Support anti-vehicle means in BFV? In BF4 it was good only against tanks with C4 and in BF1 with limpet charges and planes with LMGs
so it pretty much sucked against vehicles
Your option is AT mines with impact grenades. So you can force a detonation.
The AT pistol isn't amazing.
AT mines or an AT pistol
I personally love MMGs
The AP pistol is your ranged weapon for tanks. But you must strike the engine.
But i don't use MG42
Not incredible options, but you can refill your own gadgets
For worthwhile weapons.
So you have sustain
And I guess you can no longer regenerate gadgets with the ammo crate?
Uh
You can!
You still can but its slower
Yes but only one or two
Per resupply you get one mine/AT grenade.
MG34 is nice over the 42
It has an interact option
I heard it was only possible at the ammo stations on points
You slap it and take one gadget charge
Ammo box yeah.
25 second cool down per resupply.
I see
Also the MG34 even with his 770 rpm is super accurate
Ammo stations completely refill your gadgets.
Sticky grenade also does ok damage to tanks
Sticky grenade is eh
oh yeah sticky grenade
Like 20
cannot wait for Browning if we get one.
I really like the sticky grenade
Its.. not bad, but situational
From what I've seen BFV Assaults (Dice seems to really favor assaults in BF4 and BF1..) get very, VERY powerful weapons
Itās high damage but low blast radius and long ass fuse
like medic weapons from BF1
Fire grenades are one if the better options for grenades on support.
BFV assaults are just good at everything
Bfv assaults get sick weapons, yeah
Semis for range
Oh. Their semi autos. Yeah. They're powerful but you can contend with them with an LMG if you're good enough.
ARs for close to mid range
Assault bias in a modern Battlefield, who would've suspected
They're the only class with reasonable explosives as well
What i consider crap in support would be the Ke7.
Oh but of course, they must have their AT gadgets
Its ok, the ke7. But its nothing in comparison.
KE7 needs a recoil pattern buff
@pastel lion Found it finally. I am mistaken yet again. It is from a data mine and might not actually be added. It's the Jungle Carbine: 1:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeGrTJYNzTI
Or even with a medic
There's plenty of large guns for support
Because i can kill assaults with my MP40 or STEN
The m1897 is the least effective shotty
BFV does away with large mag LMGs aside from the Lewis
I would say
The 12g is better
The big difference is that MMGs can't ADS unless bipoddrd
Anything with a belt or very fast fire rate is an MMG
I like rekting assaults at long ranges, so they jump and run around hopelessly as they are bombarded with lead
@solid hinge hey I'm used to that
All MMG's i would say are B+
heh heh
Well the FG42 is not a MG
Ke7 and m1897 would be a straight B.
LMGs in BF1 can't ADS unless bipodded either
The MMGs got nerfed last patch but they're tweaking them again next patch
FG42 is fast but not extremely fast
No yhey can
unless you're using some noob LMG like lMG 08/18 or storm BAR
The LMG can ads
I want the Madsen
Parabellum isn't that good for long ranges
The telescopic is when you fire in bursts
Fg42 - S-
The huot was my fav
Madsen mag takes up too much screen space lel
I like using hard guns
I love the telescopic FG42
and I need FoV when prone
While the Bren and Lewis i would rank as A
KE7 is a B-
While the m30 drilling and the 12G are A-
So what would you say is the best long range weapon for support in BFV?
telescopic is a shit meme in BF1
Uhhhhhh
Bren is easily the best
Yeah it is sadly
I mean it's literally the most accurate
Yeah the bren is very very good
I see
MG30 ig but no scope
Chauchat was the best LMG in BF1
BAR M1918 was
Alongside the MG1917
in BF1 I used to outshoot snipers with telescopic M1917
but it was practically p2w
that vertical recoil though
bc you needed to preorder BFV to get it
you think I can actually drag down?
BAR M1918 was pretty much busted
There is no best LMG in BF1
Change fire rate
Vertical recoil with the bren ayla?
Every LMG in BF1 has its purpose
it goes UP
the ONE LMG in the game that didn't deserve the low weight variant got the low weight variant
Lahti is kind of stuck in the same void as the KE7
and then mondragon or federov
Where itās not too good at anything
nah not all LMGs in BF1 had a purpose
and i cant see where the bullets land because the stupid reticle is so ugly
assault and medic balance was better
If you play with the fg42, The brens recoil is easy to control. With high velocity bullets it makes longer range targets easier to hit.
also Mondragon and Federov weren't that good
I guess the reason why the bren's scope is better despite having the crappy reticule is cause of the size of the scope
both had kinda shit variants
I see most medic sweats in BF1 using Howell sniper
Factory is pretty much the best variant in the game
I'm exceptionally bad at controlling recoil
Ahhhh howell sniper oh boy did i love that gun.
you practically get storm benefits + spread benefits
Is factory just fast spread reduction?
Selbstlader and the farquad hill were so good
fast recoil and spread decrease
Gen Liu with bolt was my Pref
M1907 and Howell were prolly best sweat guns
The bolt cycle time was a dream and could easy one tap
I forgot the m1907 was a thing
actually the General Liu is the one gun in the game where the Factory variant sucks
Dunno why but i didnt like it
I use the Selbslader M1906 or the Cei Rigotti
bc factory doesn't give the bolt mode any benefit
Or the RSC-17
and it has so much hrec you need Storm
I hated the look of weird ass vertical grips on storm variants
and Factory isn't really that worth it on the 1916 bc you want Marksman
otherwise, Factory on everything else
Federov is literally not that good
I hate the look of V.Grips in general
it's a bad 1907
Medic rifles in general are too powerful
that you get to hold LMB with
They're so easy to use
I just wish the mp40 was a little stronger in BFV
Fedorov felt awful when I used it
it feels so weak.
Federov is boring. But it's effective.
I would rarely use the fedorov
It just feels
But when i did
I would build my class around the trench variant with the bayonet charge & training.
So i would gain the full benefits of it.
AL8 35 only fam
It was beautiful cheese.
After 500 hours of LMGs I tried medic weapons. They felt so easy to kill with it's ridiculous
I don't have to lay down, I don't have to set up a bipod
I can shoot extremely accurately on the move
and deal so much damage
if I had medic rifles as support, oo boi
sweeper sukt
I donāt understand why you pick sweeper
factory only fam
What's sweeper
Because for CQC you got 20+ Rounds and high fire rate
It's automatic
and it's decent at mid range
Same with automatic mode on Cei rigotti
you can easily click that
Sweeper is for the people who NEEDED their automatic weapon
there's literally only one reason to use sweeper
450 is like the average max clicking speed
and it's on high ping servers
Itās why M1A1 and AGM have that
I didnt realise the cel rigotti was fully automatic until many months later.
bc without needing to queue clicks, your shots will come out better
450 RPM isn't average max click speed dude
telemetry showed that average click speed in BF1 was like 200 RPM
Surely not?
that's why BFV semis have no spread or horizontal recoil
I could set the Fedorov to semi auto and click as fast as I can and it felt the same as full auto
most people do not desire carpal tunnel
bc players were clicking so slow, that they didn't have spread or horizontal recoil anyways in BF1
but why take the AGM or M1A1 when we got given the MAS
Although you have to hold the controller in a funny way
Holding it normally it wasnāt like that
cause the MAS only has like 10 bullet
It's funny how LMGs look like laser guns on consoles
Reload faster and you get 20
just use the gewerh 1-5 and spam the shit out of it like a noob
Tracers are too bright tbf
you think i can get more than 30% accuracy?
I saw some console gameplay and it looks like LMGs ADSing on consoles are as accurate as bipodded on PC
Mas is the only gun I enjoy outside of support it feels.
and bipodded on console were laser guns
When I first played the BF1 beta I was genuinely thinking they just took the blasters from Battlefront 1 and turned them orange
especially in bf1 with the scopes on the mmgs
BF1 too
not for BF1 iirc
and probably BF4
this is new to BFV
u didnt even have to bipod in bf1
Yeah, bfv felt less punishable than bf1
Isnāt that normal for console games though?
Well I've seen BF1 console gameplay and it always seemed so weird to me
Like R6 has it?
console just has aim assist
Because the controller is just simply worse at aiming and recoil control
Sometimes i wish i could turn off aim assist.
most games don't have much recoil
Also, why the heck does assault in BF1 have AT mines
Thatās why console aim assist is a thing
and support doesn't
so no reason to add additional benefits
Limpet charge!
assault already has enough AT gadgets
big recoil is a shit meme anyways
Limpet charge is just nerfed dynamite
Eh
You can throw just one and you can't decide WHEN to detonate it
Its great in destroying buildings
Iām better at aiming with a controller than a M+K but thatās because Iām used to it my whole life
and so is dynamite
One of the reasons why i want it back
and AT gun
Limp bizkit charge
dynamite can fuck off tbh
Nah at least it explodes when you die
assault should have limpet charges in BF1
Iām shite at shooting on PC
and support should get dynamite
limpet did a ton of damage
and/or AT mines
it was fine
Like I tried various arcadey games and was dog shit
yeah it did
dynamite for assault is gud
but you only get to throw one before the cooldown
I miss support using c4 and similar things.
Limpet was great
and you need to get EXTREMELY CLOSE
Should come back for BF5 support
and BF1 has mostly open maps
I n fact it is
coming 2023
Thereās a magnetic explosive somewhere in the files
Oh, also
I donāt even understand
Aren't we getting a mine on a stick?
Can you still use PIAT as mortar?
Itās not like DICE are lazy because thereās so much shit they already made
Sticky dynamite is great for destroying buildings. Just place it under the floor boards and let it rip. The ensuing confusion after the blast allows you to get easy kills.
Yeah you can.
Theyāre just for some reason drip feeding into the game
The bayonet charging mine stick?
Dice doesn't like support
The live service sounds like it puts more pressure on them
Honestly. If they just drop skins throughout the weeks and then give us weapon content bombs i will be just as happy.
I think people would prefer huge updates every few months with little bits in between rather than ālive serviceā
Assault feels useless without there being tanks in the field
Live service only works if they stopped making battlefield 2020 and have the entire dev team on it
and balancing issues
MINE ON STICK
they really need to nerf the repair tool jfc
Assaults are great for going offensive.
Assault is most certainly not useless if there's no tanks
OH! I love how support has repair tool in BFV by default!!!!
They're like the only class that effectively destroys fortifications
The fact that they can regen 45 points of health is massive
Because after a BF is made like 80% move on to the next project
Assault is the only class that is effective at everything
I mean.... Support is my assault class anyways. Sooo kek.
I do think the emergency repair is too powerful
And the smgs
btw what do you guys think of the breda?
They felt more effective in trench clearing and tank destruction in the last one
Itās not out yet
Dont know yet
I love the fortification mechanic in BFV. Anyone knows what other games have it?
ik know but the concept
Itās out on Thursday
Fortnite has it
And trench. Thats the main thing. Its helpful using it when on 45 health.

4 round burst seems odd
People who went to Gamescom said it was stupid op for some reason
do 3 or 5
4 round burst seems broke as shit
I know about Foxhole and I have it, but
Like it will only be effective in 4 round kill range
It gets you back to 71 health
Foxhole logistics got too complex to be enjoyable
So you can take more pummeling
Considering ARs need 4 bullets to kill under 10m
Breda looks to be good fun
Because most automatic engagements in this game take place at 5BTK
One-bursting people in close range
Probably a weapon to surpass the ribeyrolles with its accuracy
But people are saying semi auto is more effective than burst cause of the delay.
What delay
How is MG42 with/without RPM upgrade at long ranges?
Oh between burts?
The delay between bursts
Is it ok or too uncontrollable?
Yeah raze
Yeah I forgot
You fire, minor pause then fire. With semi its dadadadadadadadada
Itāll probably be good at close range shit at mid good at long
Because of the 4 bullets
How fast is the Burst RPM anyway?
650 rpm
@wild kayak mg42 is harder to control than the rest, but y'know it shoots so many bullets that it barely matters
Ive been playing a lot of squad CRONK as of late and its so much fun
Breakthrough would be ideal but nobody wanna play Breakthrough
Yeah it will have to be
I guess MG42 is the best support tool for taking out planes?
Breda has a further 4btk range iirc
No MMG is good for taking out planes
You cant do shit to planes as infantry currently
Really?
Because MMGs cant aim up 
Vehicle balance is wacky
oh well
Imagine trying to aim vertically but your fucking bipod keeps you glued to the ground
You have to try to hit them with a panzerfaust
In BF1 LMGs can hurt planes
Incendiary bullets on MMGs do about 10 damage to a plane as it passes
easily taking down bombers
When you're flying your mosquito mk fb vi and some support starts to open fire on you so you strafe him with your 4x .303's.
Planes got changed in this
Nice job DICE designing "defensive" weapons that cant defend against planes
Big lol
But they make distance much faster than BF1 planes
ehh
There's rumours they'll add an anti air launcher to assault
so that might change things
FLIETERFAUST
I am super pissed by how OP flying vehicles are in BF4
Fliegerfaust gang
in BF1 they're fine
just like tanks
Like
Yes
BF1 has great vehicle balance
Just yeet it
I want to fly in bf4 and get used to the A10. That looks like so much fun.
Kolibri with mounted MG34
More battlefield moments
That would be the dream
Plus vehicle attrition on planes encourages them to constantly make one pass and then fly out of infantry bounds
Equipped with dumbfire missiles
Nahhhhh raze. VGO. 
@stoic breach we can keep on dreaming 
in BF1 vehicles were weapon platforms that were super powerful if you were smart with them
VGO on da back
Only way to proper take out a plane is another plane
in BF4 flying vehicles are indestructible if you know how to fly properly
To be fair. You'll be an open target. So i wouldnt want to bother xD
But then if theyāre good it just becomes flying in a circle until someone gets bored
Imagine though for real, radar package, mounted MMG and dumbfire missiles on the Kolibri
Kek
Full WW2 helicopter farming
If you become actually unkillable in a plane because youāre somewhat good then thatās bad balance
Im a dog in air vehicles. Cause ill crash into the ground before they get me.
I loved halftracks in BF1942
They could take down infantry, wreck planes, heal and resupply
When its released. I would like to test it out with you raze.
Maybe we should bring back BF4 style vehicle spawns
why can't we have halftracks
See how much damage two or more assaults can do to a plane.
I dunno
Yeah
I havent seen a plane fly for ages i forgot wow.
If the Faust actually gets released I'll jump on and test it
I feel like some vehicles need to Respawn faster than others
I also wanna test the Breda when it releases
Ive been playing so much squad cronk ive forgotten about vehicles
I wanna try the m1 garand
Hahaha
bet its gonna kill in 2 shots
Warframe grind never ends
For the past like month
You know whatās funny
I know
@stoic breach lmao thats smooth
Not semi auto for assault
People still call the MG on the back of allied vehicles a VGO lmao
Yeah man
Semi auto
MG42 FTW
Raze. Fast reload or bayonet on garand. What would you choose.
SAR spammy M1 Garand would be super fucking fun though
Never tac reload
Just spam
Cause ill go bayonet
I would go fast reload
If they ever do bayonet
M1 doesnāt fire very fast
I just donāt think assaults need another godamn semi auto
I'd always empty the garand to hear the ping!
It'll just be another g43 whats the big deal?
Hear pings all the time
Is it the same as the carbine ?
It'll be a HYPE Gewehr 43
Exactly raze.
Then people will realise how limiting it'll be
Whats the m1a1 rof?
450
At least Recon is getting the M3 with a infrared scope
2btk up to 25m
Thatāll be a cool gimmick
That looks so fucking stupid
Im not sure. Isnt the m3 an m1a1 with an infared?
The M3 carbine
Assault counters to smoke
WW2 infrared technology on top of a gun
Have you played return to castle wolfenstein, trench? Cause it was there.
I hope they just eliminate medics entirely
It seems so bulky though
Engineer class pls
It appeared as the snooper rifle as the only silenced rifle.
Yeah and it was
Cause the tech was very very new
Iāll probably not use it tho
People carried giant batteries on their back essentially
I want the Springfield
Just to power it
I canāt imagine the M1 Garand being a 3btk with an 8 round clip
It was a higher damage Krag
Kar98 ftw
They'll probably give it some gimmick so it stands out
A gun for people who like to switch on
The one hit one headshot weapon sort.
With a lightning fast weapon
No
Yes
I wish SLRs could one-shot headshot
I just think it should be like a lighter faster but weaker SLR
That way I can mount 6x scope as well
Garand AT Gang lol
180 RPM Ohko headshot under 50 M SLR
The funny thing is guys
100 M OHKO eh.
One headshot kill
Dunno why but that rubs me the wrong way
People are complaining that they arenāt adding the Vampir which was the IR STG
OHSK
The M3 was actually documented used
Vampir would be interesting
50M or even 70/80 M
garand will probably be 3-3btk with 360rpm
Rubba dub dub
Whereas the Vampir might not have been used at all
That will suck
so g43 damage with turner fire rate
3-3BTK would be sick
I donāt want semi auto Garand
If it had epic hipfire that would be amazing
I really donāt
150 M3s were used and well documented on Okinawa
Medics
No
I think the Garand works better as a fast trigger spam weapon
Make it have a much shorter 2btk range
It'll have more ammo per clip
If you give it a shorter 2HKO range then why use it over the RSC/Model 8?
For me the Garand will always be more of a slow methodical heavy semi auto
The medics should get access to a few SLRs
It'll probably be a B+ weapon at release. The hype'll go down and shit.
Then people will realise how bad its flaws are
I actually wish the SLRs got buffed because got damn
Besides Iām more hyped about other weapons like the M1903 and B.A.R
They are floaty as shit
Iāll use it just for the novelty I guess
They need to be floaty
The mx garand on bo3 was actually one of my more most used weapons kek
Iām hyped about the Ithaca M37 and the M3 grease gun
Otherwise there is little reason to use them over bolt actions
Fast mags, quickdraw and a sight was all i needed and i dominated everyomr with it.
Not that that doesnāt already exist
What you mean little reason?
Have you touched the rsc, raze?
Ithaca M37 and Sjogren
It feels the same to me
Yeah it does. But even as a former shadow of itself its not all bad.
The SLRs just have way too slow recoil decrease
Like the SLR class was based off the BF1 RSC
I always give up quick aim over recoil buffer.
Like, if they had faster recoil decrease that would be amazing
Yeah
No more floaty pieces of shit
It makes me worse at close range but it helps me on the long run.
I specced the RSC for hipfire
2btk though is fucking fast
I went L R R R
You sure you want to get 2 tapped that fast at range?
You could actually give the SLRs more recoil if the decrease was faster
That could work
During the CC drought. I had to use the ZH without recoil buffer while using its scope.
Holy fucking shit i dont know HOW i did it.
But i made it work
And then when i got the coin for recoil buffer
It made it so much easier
Yeah
Theeeen i never touched it again once i got my recon to level 20.
If i wanted faster rate of fire i would go selbstlader
Oh no i just remembered my game on Arras frontlines...
I dont even want to bother levelling it up
Would you consider two people flying mosquitos and dropping big bombs on clusters of soldiers on the last objective overkill, raze?
The selbstlader 1906 has always felt the same weirdly.
Kek
Cyanide and i were just saying big bomb and screaming when we got 4+ man multi kills xD
Yeah after levelling up the ZH I cant use the Selby cause I dont want to use a shitty stock version
Hahaha
Before when I didnt care so much, I levelled up the ZH, now that I do care I cant use the Selby ever
ZH has the advantage of fast reloads while the selbstlader has better killing potential accross the board.
oh yea u right
no reason to pick high RoF ZH
actually 1906 needs quick reload to match the ZH's reload time ig
assuming both at 163 RPM
Yeah they're both at 164
Selbstlader with faster ads movement speed is a clear pick for me.
zh for its 2x or 3x, whichever has the nice basic crosshair
That'd be selby
If the medium scope was larger then i wouldnt have much of a problem with it
I really wouldnt
Its why i give the Bren's scope high praise
Cause reticule can be shit but the size of the scope can decrease the clutter and make things clearer.
you just pick which way you want to cuck your visibility
I don't even think any of the 3x scopes are particularly amazing, but none are bad
they just slow down your ADS time pretty badly
I do notice that
Maybe its why the 2x feels weirs
Weird
Cause i know its a scope but i expect it to not be so quick
433ms to ADS with a 3x scope 
vs 200ms in BF1 for scoped SLRs
400ms for the Telescopic LMGs ig
Jeez
mercenary good map to snipe if u know how to snipe
and 300ms for the sniper rifles with scopes
Quick aim changes it massively too
But its better regardless
ugh hamada....
Its a must have on the bren for that reason
Cause the bren performs best with the scope
And as you stated
The ads time is extremely slow
any pc players wanna squad up
Huh ok there's an assault bundle
how can i use the airstrike for the panzerbüchse 39
I gotta say
The panzerbüchse is pretty sexy
NOW
can someone help me xddd
The airstrike?
The heck u saying
i mean the sectorattiliere
im from germany so idk so is it sectorartilary or sth like that
š®š»āāļø
Tips fedora
Have 17500 points
š
And hold the 2 buttons
Select sector arty
Choose the location
And congrats
which buttons xd
What platform r you playing on?
pc
Heck, i dont know then
Sector artillery is a squad leader reinforcement
You must be a squad leader and have 17500 points to call one in.
Already told him all of that
Oh right
He doesnt know which buttons to press
You can see the buttons by the score i think
It says it next to your name in the bottom left corner
If you are squad leader and have enough to call in Requisitions
iirc it should be like 4-5k to call in the smoke barrage?
You're comfy
:peepocat:
7500
I haven't used them in a long time, so lol
That button is F i think but its depends on person settings
I remember i had a cat on me when i played cod 2
I think it's B for Computer by default
That was warm
toss cat overhead
I used to have a cockatiel. I would hear him sing and bang me while i played my game
Oh i dont know my friend has it on F 
Wait no not bang as in bleugh
I have 2 but they are my sisters
Like he would bang my headset with his beak
But I do everything for them
Im allergic to cats so i havent really been around them much.
She dosnet feed them, play with them, clean their shit and piss up, wash them
It fucking sucks
@prime pine your lucky
Eh that depends.
I go to my sisters place and my breathing goes bad when it isnt monitered.
Ugh... Remembering old times.
how does this discussion relate to battlefield i wonder š¤
running into spinbotters every match lately...
even on US east
EA should but the next BF on their stream platform
i am so tired of dealing with this BS
a high dpi mouse is all you need to flick around 180 degrees more or less instantly
dude i know the difference
if you say so, and i'm not a dude
the last game i was in the guy was bragging ab it
> high dpi
> playing FPS

some people like high dpi, some don't... some are extremely skilled with high dpi/sensitivity, some are not... simple facts
lets assume dpi is talking about general speed you move in game
theres a fact that lower is better
considering if you want to move fast you can move your arm faster
can still do sharper movements with higher sensitivity
theres no saying that people that make high sens gaming work wouldnt do better if they got used to low sens gaming
and there's no saying the contrary either
except science
prove it, scientificly, then
its easier to fine tune with lower sensitivity
𤦠.. i can see this discussion is going nowhere, so i'm out of it
high dpi low game sens is techically smoother than the opposite
makes no difference really though
i habe enough pojtns
dpi doesnt make a difference
because dpi is only 1 factor of like 4 that determines your in game movement
higher dpi is by definition smoother, no?
have you any idea what dpi actually is @dense bone ??
dpi is dots per inch
in a mouse
do you not get that dpi isnt the only determining factor for how fast you aim?
I use 800 and going over that is useless in my experience. 1600 is nice for desktop movement, but some shittier games you can't convert into your low sens if you use dpi >1000
theres windows settings and in game settings, mouse accelerationg (i hope most turn that off)
which key should i press for sector arty??
@solid hinge are you squad leader?
you can flick just as fast with 400 dpi as you can with 1600 dpi as long as you change the in game sensitivity values
yes
dpi in a mouse is now many dots per inch the sensor reads, and if you have a higher dpi setting on your mouse, it reads more "dots" ... and if you drop the sensitivity way down in the game it reads more information that it crams into a slower speed making it more high resolution = smoother
exactly what @glossy locust just said
yes, and none of that pertains to your "high dpi flick faster" comments
since you have other factors to determine how fast you can flick
so higher dpi is smoother it's a fact, but really in game it doesn't matter, that's the point.
if you have a set sensitivity in your game, say 20 or whatever, and then crank your dpi up on your mouse = much faster movement
so pros actually claim 400 is chunkier, less precise and that's a good thing
yes, or you can have low dpi, set it to 40 and get the same results
@solid hinge so in left bottom corner is your squad and next to you is 1 letter
yes
like because your hand movement is not perfect, the mosue updating less per second can lead to more accurate movement
next to my name is a star
it seems like you were defaulting to dpi as the end all for your in game sensitivity
I know nothing about this dpi stuff but ok
think of trying to draw a straight line in paint, might be easier at lower dpi less microcorrections from the mouse
i have it thxxd
it seems you are making alot of assumptions @dense bone ..... i didn't default to anything, i was merely discussing stuff
Np mateš
its not assumption, its your words
which is why i'm again out of this discussions, since it's pointless
you literally said high dpi makes you flick faster
a combination of settings makes you flick faster
some players play with high dpi, really low in game sens bc it apparently improves tracking and pixel skipping
but yeah high sens doesn't make you flick better lol
Oh hi beo 
you never have to do more than a 180 anyways
pixel skipping is a debunked myth now
shjeewsshh
pixel skipping happens with certain settings, mostly high sens gaming
@hollow wadi hey man
and looking at csgo pro settings 90% of players are on 400 or 800 dpi
the theory that 400 dpi it's easier to maybe snap and click heads in csgo because the mouse doesn't microcorrect as much because it updates less makes more sens than pixel skipping to me
also some really good quake players play with mouse accel
as long as you have a good and reliable curve it works
yeah but mouse settings are entirely subjective
there's really no best
not entirely
if you use relaaa's settings, you'll prolly play like shit
like i said, theres a reason most pros are using roughly the same settings
yeah not entirely I agree
high sens for FPS sucks
even though ik a few players that make it work
no one really really good plays with a high sens
csgo favors >40 cm 360 Battlefield favors <35 cm 360 quake and fortnite less than 25 cm 360
i think beo is a high sens gamer and mad at this convo
within a certain boundary*, mouse settings are entirely subjective
ill agree with that statement
ik someone who plays BF with like a 10cm 360
there you go assuming things again @dense bone ... it's really not a good trait to have
what is it like 10-16 inches to 360 is what a majority of gamers fall under
but he whores JU88A
i did assume that one, didnt asume others
Don't make the great wise beo mad
battlefield is kinda different because you almost always aim down sights which slows your sens
nah you can have USA
still slows down your sights
just use different settings then
iirc you can set it so that ADS sensitivity is higher than hip-fire sensitivity
idk i don't overthink sensitivity settings personally
imagine if someone does play like that tho
I just play with it until I get a sensitivity I like
USA is best at 0% technically, I would either do 0% or the default
0 is most mathematically sound
100% is most comfortable for me lol
well
technically no one knows how USA actually works
bc DICE doesn't even truly know
My coeffecient is at 133% which I think is the default?
wtf is USA
technically "best" coef is dependent on aspect ratio
there is a lot of number crunching on mouse-sensitivity.com 0% was determined to be the best. It's the only ratio that actually is consistent with hipfire. So no matter how scoped in you are it's teh same ratio
USA
but no one really knows how to do this
I play with 1400 on mouse, maybe default ingame, to 180 is about 2 inches
ffs...
holy shit
and I bet if you take out the flares and smokes I would have about 25% accuracy
Universal Soldier Aim
4 inches to 360?!
i just checked, and i'm running 10 sensitivity and 1000 dpi on the mouse.... so there you go
there is a big post from bf4 when USA was implemented
idk what that means for in game sens
it's basically the same as CSGOs setting is it not
theres windows settings and resolution involved
low
Uniform Soldier Aiming... basically getting all sensitivities for different zoom levels to 'feel' the same
The most basic form I can narrow it down to
10 sens and 1k dpi sounds pretty high
but they aren't the same, it just slows down the sens depending on how much your zoom in, aka how low your FOV gets
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Yeah, I used the word 'feel' for a reason
that's what i like, and that's what i run with
http://forum.symthic.com/battlefield-4-technical-discussion/7836-cte-uniform-soldier-aiming-info/?
this is from the guy who designed USA btw
Advanced Game Statistics and Discussion
i think im around 4 sens and 800 dpi, though im on higher end of distance to 360
the coefficient used determines the ratio value, or how much slower your zoomed in sight feels
4 sensitivity and 800 dpi? on pc? .... you couldn't turn a 180 even if you used half your desk then
in battlefield?
well how sensitivity + dpi matters also depends on your resolution
like I'm at 600 dpi 17 sens, which isn't normally that low
but it's pretty low if you have fuckhuge horizontal resolution
yeah you have ultrawide?
i have 3440x1440 resolution... but i used the same when i didn't have ultrawide
yeah, it took me awhile to get used to it
one day i will get an ultrawide
I had to change all my sensitivity settings a bit
when the 1440 HDR 1000 one isn't 2k
you will never go back after you played on an ultrawide.. it's excellent
i tried playing on 2560x1440 and I couldn't hit anything
annoying that some games don't work with it though
overwatch like stretches it right
battlefield works perfectly, unlike say, Division 2 that has some scaling problems in certain parts of the UI and some game elements
haven't had any of that in BF1/V
surprising because ubisoft is usually on point with PC features
for sure
still, even this far after releast
I need to change my BF4 config so it moves all the HUD elements towards the center
bf3 is unplayble on any resolution over 1080p
kinda annoying to have all your HUD elements towards your peripheral
made me uninstall even thought it's my favorite
I thought BF3 felt fine at 3440x1440
the hud is so tiny and no way to scale
never tried BF3 in ultrawide, so I can't really comment on that :/
maybe i should... for science!
but for real i really want to try a pc shooter on a stream now
like input latency is fine i just can't stand the hacks anymroe, somehow bfv is even worse lately
the size isn't the problem, I just hate my HUD elements towards the sides
this is nice
if EA just was like if you want to play the new bf you have to use our stream
you dont need to 360
i would be onboard in a second
bf3 is crazy for its time isn't it
still looks good
came out in like 2011 or 2010?
looks better than BFV kek
nickel's HUD settings are ššš
I need to change up my config to do this
Looks a bit squashed
that's the point
all the info is towards the middle
though nowadays he uses diff transparency settings, so you can see through the HUD elements better
Too claustrophobic for my style
looks great in BF1
https://twitter.com/nickelbf/status/1158423269839708161?s=21
this is squashed a bit less and looks better
I dislike BF4 sniping so much but at least the game runs. https://t.co/BqnhKZWmDX
It is funny looking at Nickel's tweets, thinking that he's this megamind of a person is hilarious
He calls his teammates (r-word) and praises a solo-mode but then goes on to say "WHOA 100 PLAYERS"
spawn in die spawn in die spawn in die this has happen now like 20 times
Don't die 

Neither did I
AT Rifle and the panzerbuches making this game unplayable
Panzerbuches is worse than the boys
It'll make strafing with the mosquito harder... But being completely honest. As infuriating as it will be. Infantry need some sort of defence against planes.