but it also has trouble doing anything other than dunking on planes
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
midnight nimbus
yeah i hate how DICE pandered to the flyboys
humble igloo
my problem is that they are almost impossible to kill from the ground and can clear an entire flag in one pass
solid hinge
you cant do shit to an enemy bomber
gotta pray you have fighters in the air
or it flies low enough to panzerfaust
hollow wadi
gloomy kraken
Hopefully Fliegerfaust changes that
midnight nimbus
pretty much every counter to air in BFV
involves praying that the enemy pilot sucks
gg
that's how infy v tank works too
solid hinge
with how attrition works on bombers i don't think flieger will do much
midnight nimbus
you just pray the tank isn't stupid enough to ignore you
solid hinge
after a bomber parps it's load it goes to repair anyway
gloomy kraken
Make the flieger do some extra damage to bombers then
midnight nimbus
Fliegerfaust needs to be able to chunk a bomber for 50+ hp with a salvo
solid hinge
it'll be more useful than the AA tanks at least
midnight nimbus
needs to gib fighters if you hit every rocket in your salvo
gloomy kraken
Like they made fighters 20% more durable from AA flak without nerfing the AA damage once
solid hinge
if someone's giving up their tank slot for an AA it has to actually be good at it
midnight nimbus
return to BF4 MAA
you can one pass a jet
you can kill a full health attack jet trying to ram you
hazy wasp
LOL fuck yeah
formal valve
Wait a second guys
hazy wasp
used the AT gun on the mosquito IV to take out a bokmber hahaha
formal valve
So Temporyal datamined all the challenge right?
So one of them
For the shooting down a plane with the Fliegerfaust.
gloomy kraken
Yup
gloomy kraken
gray glade
temporyal datamined alot of stuff that we didn't see yet
i wouldn't trust too much in the leaks tbh
solid hinge
tfw you shoot someone 4 times at range with the p08c and only get +5 enemy spotted
sonic rampart
Lol
sonic rampart
Tfw you do 99 damage but this guy just one shots you with a shotgun
From a distance while im 100 hp
gloomy kraken
Slugs?
pastel grove
Fuck pilot mains
hazy wasp
i don't mind dying to shotguns that much honestly
they fuck up as often as they nail their shot
sonic rampart
humble igloo
guy in chat saying hes accurate up to 100 yards with a glock lmfao
humble igloo
i dont think he knows just how far 100yds is
sonic rampart
pastel grove
I love specialization system but how the fuck do you compete against a fully speced fighter
hazy wasp
you don't
gloomy kraken
You dont
hazy wasp
Air combat is one of the worst aspects of the game
sonic rampart
He prob was like ‘I am the one dont need a gun to earn respects up on the street ‘
gloomy kraken
You just go to a submissive position and accept your faith.
midnight nimbus
need to go back to heli only for air
gloomy kraken
I miss chopters
hazy wasp
god no
midnight nimbus
planes don't even make sense for the scale of BF
hazy wasp
Planes are fine
Helis and Planes and some maps with 1 or the other is the ebst we can do
midnight nimbus
you're not gonna deploy planes for a little 60 person conflict
midnight nimbus
planes have always been too difficult for other vehicles and infy to interact with
they're either borderline useless against ground targets or ridiculously powerful
hazy wasp
you also don't launch your teams tanks with AT mines and C4 in combat but here we are 😛
midnight nimbus
flyboys can just go play DCS
gloomy kraken
Thats a sandbox game mechanic you are comparing to some op stuff
hazy wasp
boo yah we took the bridge on steel
midnight nimbus
planes were still poorly balanced in BF4, where they were easily the most balanced in the series
humble igloo
yeah but theyll never be able to make a battlefield without planes or people will lose their shit
so they need to figure out how to balance them
i think they were fine in bf4
hazy wasp
I will be one of those losing their shit honestly
humble igloo
granted i havent played bf4 in a couple years, so i may be remembering it through rose colored glasses
hazy wasp
Planes were better handled in BF3 than 4
having next generation setalth fighters was a bad idea
cinder trench
I agree
hazy wasp
F18's and J10's would have been fine
would of been cool to have them as the air superiority plane though
cinder trench
The bf3 multiplayer was better then bf4 in my opinion
midnight nimbus
BF3 planes were much more OP than 4
but planes in both suffer from the same problem
cinder trench
And that is what made the game better
midnight nimbus
well planes in all BFs more or less suffer from the same underlying problem
countering planes is less about you playing well
and more about the pilot being an idiot
hazy wasp
Planes are balanced due to fuck all people beign able to use them properly
humble igloo
lol
midnight nimbus
that's hardly good design though
humble igloo
thats not balance
midnight nimbus
because then you get someone like bigboss
humble igloo
exactly kht
hazy wasp
its not but its the harsh reality of things 😛
midnight nimbus
who is a very good pilot
and literally has >400 K/D in BFV
because counters fucking suck
cinder trench
Flying a plane in bf is like saying lets fly into the ground
hazy wasp
AA atm is shredding me
midnight nimbus
still had >100 K/D in BF4
pastel grove
Certain maps fuck me up like
hazy wasp
but that last team had a squad that legit were just causing me issues the entire time (we both played similarly)
pastel grove
AA on Fjell is slightly broken
cinder trench
Only one map made my game lag the fuck out
hazy wasp
C oibjective on that map would be much better if it had a cellar you could go into
midnight nimbus
also doesn't even use bombers
hazy wasp
like on Argone forest with the chapel ruins
midnight nimbus
only uses fighters
thin shadow
hi all
pastel grove
Fuck fighters
midnight nimbus
so unless DICE can figure out some meaningful level of AA
and have plane vs ground be less binary
just axe planes
helis are fine
pastel grove
cinder trench
Helis are the shit
hazy wasp
it really doesn't
cinder trench
I can fly one easiest
hazy wasp
it needs to track better]
cinder trench
Then flying into another plane
midnight nimbus
that's why the turret turn limits are so dumb
main grove
In BF1 a plane would be lucky to survive a passing by burst from AA
midnight nimbus
MAA in BF4 works bc you can do a full 180 as fast as a jet moves
BF1 AA wasn't that good either
MANPADS are a joke as AA for infy
pastel grove
Also BFV plane backseat guns are fucking trash
main grove
If the pilot is any good he can just murk the AA no problem
midnight nimbus
doesn't work against planes bc any half competent pilot releases that jets are fast enough to clear the lock without needing CMs
main grove
Maybe planes will never be balanced right in battlefield
midnight nimbus
lock ons are nice but only really work against dumb pilots
main grove
They’re a hard thing to get right
midnight nimbus
even if you're real tricky about prefiring PRMs
hazy wasp
which are about 80% of pilots
midnight nimbus
yeah a counter needs to be viable against good pilots
main grove
The only problem is that if the pilot is any good then its impossible
midnight nimbus
which holds true for helis (except in BF3)
literally remove planes
fixes balance
hazy wasp
it does, but there is alsoa point where you cannot have a perfect counter and someone is just going to beat the system or at least bend it
removing planes is a step back for the series honestly, any more restrivctions on the sandbox and itll barely be battlefield anymore
hazy wasp
and they reverted it in BF3
midnight nimbus
have a JTAC class and AI planes
pastel grove
inb4 they put that jet that Germany almost built late in WWII
midnight nimbus
or roll JTAC role into recon to make them useful
hazy wasp
Also BC had a much more open environment, BFV is far too tightly packed for many of the maps
midnight nimbus
BC really wasn't that open
being structured is how it caught so much hype
people like having the enemy shoved in their face
forcing people to fight is a good thing
sonic rampart
hazy wasp
you could easily have a way of manipulating engagements with an expansion of how the squad leader role works on the game, by notifying them of dynamic objectives within conquyest that are totally optional but will earn your squad more points if you do them
pastel grove
That would be interesting
hazy wasp
or having a hot objective system within conquest
pastel grove
Capture mini objectives that serve as tactical points to capture primary objectives
midnight nimbus
distractions from the main point of the game
hazy wasp
not really
midnight nimbus
objectives were created in FPS to force players to fight each other
hazy wasp
yes
hazy wasp
you have 1 squad given an order to do soemthing and the enemy team has the same but opposite order
midnight nimbus
you have maps well designed for rush
hazy wasp
forcing attack and defend scenarios
humble igloo
i liked the bf1 map that was just 1 point
midnight nimbus
increasing the number of objectives decreases the probability of engagement
midnight nimbus
limited information game, you go to objectives bc you're guessing that there will be enemies there
hazy wasp
its giving bonus objectives that can add flow to a mode that is pretty fucking bad in its current state
main grove
I sort of understand what Ardaam is saying
midnight nimbus
more objectives = more decisions
midnight nimbus
yeh
hazy wasp
im adding optional structure that could both add immersion to the game, improve the flow of the game mode itself and in some cases actually teach people how to do certain things
main grove
Something like Twisted Steel is a bad map for that
midnight nimbus
people like to fight around the central points in Conquest
jaunty pilot
Is bf4 still worth it
main grove
What the fuck is the point of the D flag
hazy wasp
which is bad
midnight nimbus
that's where the action is
hazy wasp
it causes a monumental clusterfuck and thats boring
midnight nimbus
people play FPS bc they want action
hazy wasp
older Battlefields outside of Metro and Locker had basically different hotzone engagements around the mapo
you had some central conflict but it also was better distributed
main grove
Maps like Arras would do well to just delete the C and F flags
They’re not really adding much
People like the village
hazy wasp
they are adding grounds for vehicle engagement
sacred skiff
can you even get banned for cheating ?
midnight nimbus
yeah most people don't wanna run for 5 minutes, stand on an enemy flag with no enemies on it, then run for another 5 minutes to get back into the action
hazy wasp
so are we just going to turn the game into CoD then?
main grove
No
midnight nimbus
I don't get the "do the opposite of CoD mentality"
like lmfao
it's a multi billion dollar franchise
midnight nimbus
if they do something right, it's worth looking at
main grove
suggest that overly large maps should be reduced in favour of game flow
midnight nimbus
and they're very good at creating action
hazy wasp
forcing lands and cutting off flanking is bad for Battlefield
main grove
Is that what’s you call battlefield?
hazy wasp
Rush was awful in V because there was no way to properly encircle the objective to secure and destroy it
main grove
Flanking should be a slightly viable tactic
hazy wasp
I'm just agaisnt the homoginization of every shooter to become the same thing thats all
main grove
If it was really good then that’s all people will do
hazy wasp
we need variety
midnight nimbus
forcing more structure doesn't mean cutting off flanking lmao
if anything, you need structure for flanking to mean anything
hazy wasp
Battlefield excells at certain things, CoD at others, they should learn from each other but should also understand what they are good at and run with that
midnight nimbus
there's no flanking without a frontline
midnight nimbus
without a structured frontline, you're just playing big TDM with flag spawns
main grove
Before you get shot by about 10 snipers
midnight nimbus
^^
flanking doesn't exist without structure
how much """flanking""" exists on Hamada
main grove
Galicia is what people think Battlefield should be like
solid hinge
Tell that to the sweaty tryhards of hardline
main grove
Just big open space
midnight nimbus
the entire premise of flanking is built on the assumption that your enemy is facing forward
solid hinge
Also hello everyone
pastel grove
Being on offense fucking sucks on Galicia
main grove
Then you have maps like the start of Tsaritsyn
tardy basin
main grove
Which have the opposite problem
spiral trail
Trench warfare is lowkey accurate on Galicia though
ionic harbor
Hey guys, im new to Battlefield. I'm giving it a try this month (Origin premier). I was reviewing comments online, and so many hate about the game (bad quality of life, etc). Is this all past ? Most things are fixed? or should I just move on to a different game? im not a hardcore player but before to invest few hours i want to know ..... thanks! (PC)
spiral trail
which is what I like abt the map
pastel grove
That's true.
pastel grove
Galicia is great for actually feeling like WWI
midnight nimbus
realistic trench warfare
pastel grove
And yeah, just charge out of the trench
midnight nimbus
so cool when trench warfare sucked irl
tardy basin
I'd say try it out, you already have premier. @ionic harbor
ionic harbor
@tardy basin good point. will give it a try 🙂
sacred skiff
does this game even have an ac ?
tardy basin
I don't know why a game would have air conditioning... /s
fathom pebble
its ww2 
icy sluice
I put awards back on, now I can see the dogtags
echo glen
Maybe reset your game
lavish raptor
wat
echo glen
Close and reopen BFV
lavish raptor
what x2
echo glen
You're asking if you got the dog tag
echo glen
The cosmetics are good 
sonic rampart
Otherwise you can contact ea support I guess
But restarting your game will do it prob
Btw I thought you’d get the dogtag before reaching ToW 40
sonic rampart
How much exp do you need to earn at lvl 39 to 40
lavish raptor
somethi9ng like 122k
lavish raptor
same
humble igloo
theres a booster?
im only at rank 30
on the tides of war
yall think i can make it or nah
shell canopy
I'm getting fed up with hackers dude
shell canopy
Makes me just lose hope for the game
humble igloo
i think there are a lot less hackers in this game then people claim there are
some people are just really good, not every person who kills you is a hacker
shell canopy
I can tell when someone is a hacker and when someone is not
shell canopy
If I'm suspicious, I just go into spec and look
main grove
Nice
midnight nimbus
I played like 3 rounds of BFV the other day
2/3 had aimbotters
but they were on my side so w/e
main grove
The LAD is at least going to be an LMG and not an MMG but still needs SMG damage model
Also it looks so much like a BF4 LMG Jesus
midnight nimbus
still don't know if BFV is worth keeping with the limited amount of storage I have left
only 20GB left and MW beta is right around the corner
gray saffron
oof
how big is your ssd normally?
and depends whether you still feel like playing or rather take a break and try out mw instead ;D
midnight nimbus
1TB
I'll prolly end up axing BFV + some small steam game
I still keep BF4 with all the DLCs for the naval strike maps
gray saffron
alright 🙂
late orchid
ÛwÛ
gray saffron
i like bf1's torpedo action. it's satisfying seeing them swim towards giant ships ;D
gray saffron
😮
midnight nimbus
was just turned off by BF1 naval combat in general
or BF1 vehicle combat in general
spiral trail
land ship is OP
midnight nimbus
I don't enjoy being a gunner in anything but the attack heli tbh
even MBT gunner is kind of a waste of time
spiral trail
attack heli?
midnight nimbus
yeah
AH gunner is the only cool gunner position
landship gunner sucks
especially with randoms
spiral trail
you know it's not a helicopter lmao
thick thunder
What is your favorite sniper and why?
midnight nimbus
and driving the landship is really boring unless you have the Tankgewehr one
spiral trail
Attack Plane
steel agate
I like the C130 gunning though
midnight nimbus
no I'm talking about the BF4 AH
that's the only vehicle in the entire BF franchise where I want to be a gunner
steel agate
Attack heli is best gunning, it's a tier above all else, it's not even fair
midnight nimbus
attack plane gunner sucks too
midnight nimbus
attack heli is literally the only vehicle in BF where driver and gunner are both interesting
steel agate
Yeah the gunner for the attack heli is just not fair
You can solo an entire enemy team
I mean that literally
lavish raptor
is your name also ISTERLINGARCHER or something like that on origin
steel agate
why do you ask?
steel agate
Yeah it's a common favorite among support players
hazy wasp
theres no issue controlling that recoil on full auto at all
solid hinge
Lewis
steel agate
or bipod MMGs, too
solid hinge
laughs in MG42 hipfire
steel agate
or bipod "hipfire" MMG, super accurate!
solid hinge
Dude theirs no need to aim
When you shoot 1200 RPM
Big Brain
More bullets means more accuracy
steel agate
I prefer the 1922 over the buzzsaw
But I mean, yeah you don't have to ADS while the bipod is out
solid hinge
I miss the phantom/syndicate challenges
steel agate
I'm hoping the new EE weapon for BFV will be Jack Churchill's long bow 😄
hazy wasp
heh would be fun
solid hinge
Is there actually any proper Easter eggs in bfv yet?
steel agate
Where you can spawn as the elite Jack Churchill
gray saffron
finger gun
steel agate
There are EEs that are unsolved
solid hinge
With the exception of the teddy bears, finger gun and explosive whale?
steel agate
The telephone EE and the bird chirp EE on Mercury
We have no idea what those are yet
solid hinge
Did they ever find out what that giant staircase was?
solid hinge
Makes sense
Hoping there's gonna be another megladon
Or at least another battlefield friends egg
steel agate
There are two sharks in BFV 😉
Twisted Steel EE and a "baby" hanging in Lofoten Islands
gray saffron
has that twisted steel one been found?
steel agate
Yeah someone randomly found it
There was a 1/100 chance that the shark would appear
a small shark, that's all
The most recent EE was found yesterday
gray saffron
any vids?
steel agate
It was a Tomb Raider reference in BF1
dark solstice
baby shark in bfv?
solid hinge
Kinda like the pterodactyl on bf3
gray saffron
what was the reference?
wasnt there also a pterodactyl on one of the bfv's promo screenshots?
steel agate
Yeah there was a pterodactyl in the It Is Alive poster for BFV, in reference to the above shark EE on Twisted Steel
gray saffron
haha, such a small tease that shark on twisted
steel agate
yeah I want them to focus on making a big EE
Here's the EE that was found yesterday for BF1:
dark solstice
Imagine a bf game that takes the idea "What if the cold war became ww3" you could hav east germans, and the bundeswehr, and all that, and berlin wall map.
gray saffron
lol simple easteregg that tomb raider one
steel agate
Yeah, we all saw the Tomb + Raider in game, but didn't make the connection, at least not explicitly
@dark solstice Yeah like an alternate reality BF?
BF4 was technically a near WW3 game set in 2020, too
dark solstice
but i want a 80-90s where the cold war became ww3
finally see those NVA mushroom stahlhelms in combat
steel agate
I do want to see the Korean War, but maybe BFVI, Part 1 Korean War, then a DLC next year BFVI, Part 2 Vietnam War
Called BFVI Cold War
hazy wasp
Korean war is so similar to WW2 that honestly people will bitch with it about repeating guns
steel agate
Or something like that
true, though the AK came out, helis, etc.
and jets
But if it was an entire Cold War game
Not sure if it's doable to span across multiple decades in one game
I guess it's feasible
gray saffron
wow, the at gun does 5 fucking hp to a tank. sure it can instantly disable shit, but other than that it's flipping useless
steel agate
On the light to medium tanks it does up to 18 damage
I got 17 earlier today against the Stag
gray saffron
okay, maybe against a tiger it's a bad idea then ;D
steel agate
I believe I hit the rear of the tank, just below the turret
That does critical damage
gray saffron
bc3 prolly is
lavish raptor
honestly, if they fixed balancing then a lot of the flaws in BFV could really be looked over i feel
90% of the time that and the respawn screen bug is what pisses me off
hazy wasp
lol holy shit
steel agate
Balancing and anti-cheat is the next step, before it was largely the bugs
hazy wasp
may have gotten a 10kill hit with the V1
steel agate
nice
hazy wasp
it ended the round 😛
lavish raptor
nice
this fucking tommy dude
almost level 70 since starting it
also when private servers come out, im predicting this game will become what battlefield 1 is in regards to post popularity cult followings
dark solstice
@steel agate no, if ww3 started with the cold war, nukes might not of been used
due to mutually assured destruction
steel agate
If that one scientist didn't give up the atomic bomb details to the Soviets, too
Well, they didn't go to war at all because of MAD
all proxy wars
gray saffron
i really hope rsp allows use of limited timed modes
solid hinge
just lost 4 straight up bullet trades to a dude with bigmag tommy when I'm using hipfire tommy
steel agate
Like today we won't go to war with say, Russia or China, because of MAD. Because let's say the war turns hot and it's all non-nuclear. We'd fight but the losing side would simply threaten with nukes so as to not lose the war. Then the nuke threat can be rolled back earlier and earlier by that logic and the war would never turn hot at all.
solid hinge
not interested in playing a game where my bullets arent working
steel agate
Then they shoot nukes
gray saffron
what's MAD?
hazy wasp
tommy gun, lewis gun and riberroles are riddiculas
gray saffron
ah
dark solstice
soldiers, bullets, ect. or if one side destroys the others nukes using sabotage
steel agate
Like let's say that the US loses a war against China god forbid, and we're about to lose the entire country due to an immense invasion force. Would we just give up the land, or would we do a nuclear strike on mainland China? The threat is so great that it would never turn hot in the first place.
fleet bloom
oh ffs the double barrel mint receiver is chrome and the chrome is the plain one so there is no mint receiver
dark solstice
idk if you can physically invade the usa or canada, too big and mountainous
and everyone owns a gun
steel agate
I was making a point
You can use any two nuclear powers
China v India, let's say
Same scenario
dark solstice
true, france v israel
but the cold war was different, there we're many times that invasions were seconds away, and somehow it was averted.
steel agate
Yeah you could just say "take your invasion force out of our country, or will launch dozens of nukes at yours"
A lot of those were power plays
And for second strike and retaliatory strikes for nukes
But yeah, the mishaps aren't avoidable
Computers showing that nukes are being sent to your country when they're not actually there due to a glitch/bug.... that sort of stuff could make the war hot.
gloomy kraken
Well that did happen
steel agate
Yes, that's why I mentioned it lol
gloomy kraken
But in the end it was just the moon
dark solstice
what?
gloomy kraken
In cold war the early warning system warned about a nuclear strike but it was just the moon riseing.
steel agate
Then there are those cases where nuclear bombs are actually still missing, or accidentally fell or crashed without exploding
"Broken Arrows"
steel agate
There's a missing hydrogen bomb in Georgia
rigid oracle
i could swear the last WW2 film I watched
Germans had a Skull on their hat
in this game it has some generic weird symbol that looks like they stole it from google images
gloomy kraken
Thats going to be Fun when it turns in to a dirty bomb
steel agate
The US lost 6 nuclear bombs
it's a surprise that nothing catastrophic happened with those
That's small compared to the total Broken Arrows
icy sluice
Something very funny happened to me earlier, I was a Recon and a Medic was running up to me, so I was moving left and right. There was a truck between us and he was hopping all around like a stupid bunny...
When he got to the truck, he started climbing the truck
Idiot died
solid hinge
ive done that before
I'll jump round this corner to surprise them
starts vaulting something 3 metres away
analog mist
I should have played earlier in the week, squad leaders are giving orders but saving it all for bombs.
solid hinge
shoot medic 7 times
2 shots register
he tebags me
i hate this
it used to show blood at least
now I just shoot people and the bullet does nothing
the main reason I like the p08 is because I have 33 bullets to throw at people when half my fucking shots dont register
gray saffron
i do terrible after this new update. i'm not sure if it's the game or that i just started sucking 😦
gray saffron
hope so 😦
hazy wasp
yep
analog mist
Everyone's ping has doubled
hazy wasp
idk if its superbyullets or what
but if 1 bullet from an auto weapon hits me i die
the fucking call in binoculars are so fucking buggy god dammit
remote pond
anybody on pc?
gray saffron
i am, but if you're looking for teammates check out the looking for group channels :3
like #lfg-pc !
gray saffron
we dunno
dark solstice
the brits need more officer headgear
gray saffron
the brits need more british gear ;D
dark solstice
they have one officer head gear, and i think it's a low ranking officer in the royal marines
lavish raptor
just got 22 hs with kar98k on grind
holy shit lmao
like 5 min game best ammount of hs in 5 min i think ive ever gotten
warm atlas
When you’re only at ToW rank 32 and you only have one week left of the season. 
gray saffron
rank up, forest raaaank up!
rocky verge
Just play grind and grand op
lavish raptor
^
rocky verge
Fastest way to rank up
lavish raptor
grind is amazing
warm atlas
I’ve done all the challenge nodes this week.
rocky verge
And do all the challanges
Then keep playing
I got the chaptor 4 booster pack so I went a little faster
warm atlas
You get scratch level chapter points without challenges.
steel agate
Dude, one of the fastest ways to level up is to play as recon and spam spot flares in Grind/Fortress
rocky verge
^^
Wish we had V1 rockets and sector artillery in grind and fortress
Ah the kills/XP from all them players
steel agate
Yeah that would be OP
gray saffron
smoke shells can kill too :3
lavish raptor
^
icy sluice
I got killed by one one second into Hamada Fortress
solid hinge
If you wait for the round to start on hamada fortress the spawn moves up into a safe zone
Bfv has a huge amount of maps where spawning after the round starts moves you far closer than you were otherwise
like the rest of the video just displays what happens when the attackers spawn closer to the point than the defenders do but look how much the spawns change
it takes a solid 30 seconds for anyone to turn up
Marita breakthrough is the same
The attackers spawn closer to the house than the defenders
But if you wait for the round to start you spawn literally inside the house
It's bad design
gray saffron
yeah i noticed that too, aula.
rigid oracle
I didn't know low drag rounds were a real thing
i saw it in BFV for Kar 98
i was hesitant to use it because to me it would likely make the gun feel fake like COD
i wanted to play my Kar 98 to real life as possible
even tho BFV ain't no Arma 3
but then I saw low drag rounds in specializations
i googled it and it is a real thing
solid hinge
They're real, but the bullets barely have any drop before 100 metres anyway
Low drag makes the zeroing pointless as well
Kind of a bunk spec tree
rigid oracle
should I pick low drag rounds?
how close to real life is BFV bullet physics in sniper rifles?
solid hinge
If you find yourself having to aim above peoples heads a LOT then go for it
hazy wasp
not at all honestly
solid hinge
I dont have them and I only aim above peoples heads like.. every one in 20 shots
far worse than better accuracy and faster bolting imo
hazy wasp
(Sniper physics question)
rigid oracle
yeah i find myself always having to aim above someone head
in a way it feels more rewarding
but disgusting when it misses
without low drag round perk it feels more true to life
that u would expect with a real gun
midnight nimbus
i mean it's not like BF ballistics are that realistic anyways
drag is unrealistically high
bolt action velocity is also unrealistically low
solid hinge
You like long range sniping? It honestly doesn't feel like theres drop at all under 100 metres
hazy wasp
it is super satisfying
solid hinge
Probably go for low drag then
hazy wasp
hitting someone ina fast moving vehicle is my vice
rigid oracle
got some nasty head shots today, shit feels so satisfying especially with that metal sound that happens when you get a head shot
solid hinge
sure wish they'd buff bolts
hazy wasp
So I am ToW Level 33.45 atm
if I can do the balls of a level a night I can get to 40
damn battlefield for being broken most of this season
rocky verge
Noice
gray saffron
keep it up sturmo 😄
hallow perch
how is the Liberté set?
gray saffron
it's neat
but i can't wear a helmet with the top piece. there's already a helmet on the back 😦
solid hinge
Despite being only 13% of the community tryhards make up more than 50% of all annoying players
main grove
Fucking hell the broken bottle needs over 100k tow exp
Will the two outfits after that need as much?
gray saffron
i think the last few needs 130k or 180k. i forgot
rotund beacon
When does this chapter end?
gray saffron
19 september @rotund beacon
rocky verge
Already have it to rank 10
rocky verge
Just doing the mint challanges and then mastery
spiral trail
ew a furry
analog mist
You know I've played this game since beta, and still don't grasp the purpose of pistols.
solid hinge
analog mist
Like, why use anything other than the revolver.
spiral trail
furries are cancer lmaoo
solid hinge
@analog mist immersion
spiral trail
shut up
solid hinge
spiral trail
you're the most annoying person in this server lmaooo
solid hinge
Hey man that's not cool
analog mist
@solid hinge Thanks I hate it.
solid hinge
Wow man toxic @analog mist
spiral trail
we all know this kid is trying to get the "regular" role
you're trying to get the regular role
not only are you making yourself look like a clown but you're never gonna get it
solid hinge
Hes not because they dont give it out anymore smh
Only REAL way to get it is to be a mod sadly now
solid hinge
At least hes in double digits @spiral trail
solid hinge
solid hinge
O yes quite my good sir
spiral trail
I don't mean slow as slow in typing
I mean it as you're too stupid to understand anything someone tells you
spiral trail
and I can tell hes got no friends either bc he is always chatting on this server 24/7
solid hinge
@steady nymph what do you think about the panzerbushe?
Haven't played with it yet
Same
Too busy playing dbd
analog mist
Can't tell, I'm suffering the doubled ping.
solid hinge
Dead by daylight
@analog mist you cant say shit buddy
I LIVE with 100 plus ping almost every game
Even before this patch
analog mist
How do you go on like this, it's terrible.
solid hinge
By shooting just a teeny bit further then usual
Also camping
That helps alot
I wanna commit final oof but the lag dosnet let me
plzz dont mute mods just jokin
compact oxide
Try resetting the filters in server browser, sometimes they can get stuck
tidal hill
Ok
spiral trail
not sure what game you're on but if you have it set to 10+ and ALL for slots, they're all empty games
analog mist
Kinda wish there was a tunnel or something that went straight through the hill in the middle of Mercury to break up the lame sniper stalemates that always happen.
spiral trail
lmao
eager field
Why is my medic outfit being set to the same as my assault one? Like when I change the assault one, the medic one ends up being the same as well
spiral trail
bfv is just snipers and MMGs
compact oxide
Alternatively I've got a perfect solution for all the problems with BFV
compact oxide
just don't play it
spiral trail
Switch to BF1
midnight nimbus
both are fine solutions
compact oxide
Pretty much
eager field
BF1 and 4 were masterpieces
analog mist
Why would I switch to sniper hell.
midnight nimbus
tfw krunker briefly surpassed BFV in twitch viewers today 
compact oxide
I've gotten so burnt out I've been playing monster hunter but bf1 is great
compact oxide
It sounds it, but imma take a break from fps
midnight nimbus
the epitome of point and click adventure
sniping is the ultimate feelgud activity
makes me feel like I'm about to make a faze montage
just as sniping should
barren haven
@steady nymph and it's fast paced...
@spiral trail I would be a happy to see a list of the things Battlefield V did worse...
compact oxide
I loved scout in BF1 after learning the quickswap strats
Walk up and point blank peeps with your sniper and pistol
Not really
barren haven
Battlefield 1 playstyle is very similar to MW
barren haven
@steady nymph Just bayonet charge.
compact oxide
Bayonet lowers stats, only use it for elites imo
spiral trail
The bf youtubers should just switch back to BF1 for now
barren haven
@compact oxide Why so? Because shotguns are for noobs?
compact oxide
Because if you're a long range person and you allow a super short range person to flank you then you're not paying attention
spiral trail
yes
barren haven
@compact oxide I meant close-quarters though but your point is correct.
compact oxide
Anything but it imo
If you're using a bolt action on a map like fort then you're brave to start
barren haven
I like the overpowered health and good weapons the Medic class has to offer.
@steady nymph What?!
Everyone went with a high caliber
And proned lmao
I mean in Battlefield 1
compact oxide
I love medic on Bf1
barren haven
75% of time
compact oxide
Although I'd find very few people ran it
icy sluice
I play all classes in all Battlefield games
barren haven
You get killed by a proned Support class soldier...
compact oxide
Lots of support players in bf1
barren haven
@icy sluice Well especially 1
barren haven
@compact oxide Well can't tell about your experience
barren haven
But distant kills were nerfed in Battlefield V and you know why.
icy sluice
Skill? Hah, don't need it when you have a 770 rpm smg with 80 bullets
compact oxide
Yeah there's a few things that suck in bf1, SMG 08 and heavy bomber
And the elites, behemoths etc
icy sluice
also Mortar Trucks just sitting down in the back where you can't do anything to it
compact oxide
Yup
analog mist
Nothing better than a squad of AT rifles poking a Tiger to death.
compact oxide
I would warn and kick if someone did that on a clan server
icy sluice
Literally the only way to destroy some is to run way out of bounds and die on the way there
solid hinge
you mean like every tank in bfv?
compact oxide
BFV bad
icy sluice
But then they're just sitting on a deploy screen going "AHAHAHA, YOU MAY HAVE STOPPED THAT ONE BUT I WILL COME BACK EVEN STRONGER!!!"
compact oxide
@icy sluice hence why kick them 
icy sluice
One thing that was bullshit is that the Mortar Trucks would just shit on the Light Tank
One shot would disable the tank
compact oxide
SMG 08 in general should've been kept the old spec
icy sluice
Because one shot disables the tank, it can't move at all, so it can't get the fuck out of there
The moment a mortar truck hits a light tank, it's over.
analog mist
Arty trucks would have probably worked better as a 2 seater like the halftracks in BFV
icy sluice
Wouldn't change anything lol, no one drives around with the trucks 
barren haven
@steady nymph It's WW1
compact oxide
I adored the Bf1 legendary skins
barren haven
They went too far IMO
compact oxide
Like nothing at all in BFV compares
icy sluice
I'd rather have a gun that just changed the metal or wood finish
Like Rough Rider on the 1895
analog mist
BF1 skins were just 10ish base skins renamed 700 times.
compact oxide
The legendary ones were great
barren haven
@steady nymph I said they went far
icy sluice
I was right
barren haven
I honestly never cared about cosmetics
compact oxide
My white general Liu 
icy sluice
Nah, just a different wood finish and all that gets me rock solid
Like, get this the fuck outta here.
compact oxide
I loved that tbh
icy sluice
Spot the Difference
compact oxide
Lots of detail on those skins
spiral trail
that's fake lmaoooo
barren haven
@icy sluice It looks nice but when you remember WW1 it becomes annoying lol
icy sluice
Yeah it was an error lol
compact oxide
I've got both skins
icy sluice
Game had an error when I first got it
The Single Player Story Skins were the only ones worth getting imo
compact oxide
But honestly, I'd take any of the Bf1 gold skins over the BFV ones
They actually look like effort was put in in BF1
compact oxide
Auto revolver is pree good
icy sluice
I just use the M1911
One thing I absolutely hate Battlefield 1 for tho...
It never gave me skins for guns I actually use
compact oxide
Tachenpistole or peacekeeper imo
icy sluice
Thanks for the 32 skins for the fucking Lewis Gun DICE
I already have 12 Rattlesnakes and like 4 skins that are basically that but less engravings
compact oxide
I just have every gold skin in bf1 🤷
icy sluice
I scrapped all of the gold skins
barren haven
Damn BF1 why do you have to look so se*y?
icy sluice
Straight Flush isn't gold, right?
compact oxide
Vehicles don't exist pffft
icy sluice
tf is this?
analog mist
While on the subject, why is solid gold ok but mermaid is an unforgivable crime? They're on the same level in my eyes.
icy sluice
What in the goddamn
compact oxide
That gun skin is actually so damn sexy
I love it to bits
It's got really fine engraving the whole way over
Tbh most of the gold skins were designed to look like actual styles of golded guns
icy sluice
Was that the only skin that existed for that gun? Holy shit, all I can see is people posting that skin
compact oxide
The others are eh
analog mist
I bet plain white 8-1/2" x 11" paper also turns you on @compact oxide
compact oxide
If it was incredibly well engraved then hell yeah book me a room with it
compact oxide
Actually great
midnight nimbus
I kinda miss using the SMG08
compact oxide
I sucked with it though so I went tachenpistole
icy sluice
Thanks Google for that awful resolution
icy sluice
Thanks Lapis
midnight nimbus
getting 3 kills with one auto revolver mag feelsgudman
icy sluice
Could do without the engraving bs tho
midnight nimbus
there's so many cool BF1 skins
icy sluice
Like, ew.
compact oxide
This skin was my other fav
midnight nimbus
I liked the engraved skins
compact oxide
Same
midnight nimbus
needed more shiny gold tho
compact oxide
Eh
midnight nimbus
legendary skins needed more max bling
icy sluice
I avoided buying the 900 scrap crates
compact oxide
I just love the intricacies of it
midnight nimbus
a few gems embedded in some of the skins would've been hype
icy sluice
I always just got the 450 scrap ones
midnight nimbus
where's my diamond AL8 35
compact oxide
It's a pity the nagant revolver kinda sucked or I'd use it just for the skin
midnight nimbus
Mars was so overhyped
icy sluice
Skins like this I did like
midnight nimbus
yeah the black skins in BF1 were cool
midnight nimbus
I have all the black skins for the SLRs
spiral trail
lmao then get it
compact oxide
Can't get it outside of battlepacks unless it's on sale
midnight nimbus
I still wish I could've had my diamond AL8 35 Marksman
to flex on people
I was top 100 in the world for AL8 35 MM kills at one point
compact oxide
Getting a shiny skin when you get 100SS with a gun would be great
icy sluice
I do prefer just getting skins through challenges and out-right buying them, it's nice to see what you can create as well.
midnight nimbus
the BFV customization is fugly
midnight nimbus
didn't even customize any of the guns until I realized you could buy skins
sick counterintuitive UI guys
compact oxide
I was keen at first but even after getting all of the skins for a couple guns they all suck
midnight nimbus
I didn't even enjoy customizing anything bc it took so many clicks
really tedious process
icy sluice
95% of BF1, I had like no skins because I just sold them to try and get something that's like... dark or has like camo
midnight nimbus
the gold skins in BFV aren't shiny enough
icy sluice
The PTFO MP18, you couldn't even see what was different
midnight nimbus
chrome looks kinda cool tho
compact oxide
I loved the flexing when you killed someone with a gun and it showed your skin
midnight nimbus
was hoping a gold StG would look like the BFH gold AKM
icy sluice
Flexing what? RNG Luck?
compact oxide
I loved the PTFO MP18 
compact oxide
Can't say I've seen the cod style, but I enjoyed the Bf1 one
midnight nimbus
also helps you learn from your mistakes better, but that's secondary
icy sluice
PTFO MP18, nothing of what changed the skin actually shows up in the fps view
midnight nimbus
CoD style is just the enemy POV for the couple seconds leading up to them killing you
icy sluice
The only way you can see what actually changes is uhh... the best squad screen
compact oxide
And when you kill someone they see
midnight nimbus
ideally I'd like to see unskippable CoD killcam to replace the BF killcam
icy sluice
tbh, I'd rather just have this fox than 99% of BF1 skins
compact oxide
Like I don't have the sniper PTFO one cause I didn't bother
midnight nimbus
the BFV deathcam is an atrocity
sacred skiff
what does the tides of war rank even mean or do
midnight nimbus
CoD killcam would be a huge net benefit for the new playerbase
and help alleviate camping a bit
icy sluice
TOW rank is ranks for every chapter
steel agate
Also pinup art on gun scales could have been a thing
icy sluice
You just get stuff through ranking up TOW
You can see what the different ranks get you.
Currently, the top level gets you this outfit
icy sluice
Hideous
compact oxide
I love it for the engraving
icy sluice
compact oxide
But they make you feel supurb
icy sluice
Then just dab everywhere and tea-bag everyone you kill
compact oxide
I mean I already do
rose pilot
spiral trail
Is that BFV?
ew
see what I mean tho lmaoo
anti human rifle
nobody is gonna use that on tanks
sacred skiff
it sucks on tanks
stoic breach
steel agate
it's good against small tanks or if everyone coincidentally has it and is targeting one large tank
topaz dome
15~ damage per shot on a medium tank from behind
steel agate
If you're up against a huge Churchill or Tiger, esp at range, you're only going to do single digit damage every time
Yeah I get up to 18 damage on smaller tanks with shot placement
tribal cairn
Imagine 10 people all in a large perimeter area taking pot shots at some poor lone Pz IV
With AT rifles
steel agate
Or half the team sniping a Tiger
It'll be dead in literally a few seconds
Let's say 5 damage per shot, 16 Panzerbuschses... that's 80 damage for the first volley, 160 total after the second volley
tribal cairn
Honestly, I got my hopes up for the PZB because I heard it was gonna have a very high Velocity
midnight nimbus
if it's a primary weapon... WHY SHOULDN'T IT BE USED ON INFANTRY
tribal cairn
But no, it's basically the Boys AT except probably worse except for looks and fire rate
steel agate
Stop doubting @spiral trail
It's math
It obviously assumes that they all hit their targets, and without ricochets
compact oxide
steel agate
Imagine a synchronized shot of 32 Panzerbuschses at one tank... all hitting at the same time lol
Yeah shot placement matters
Like head on and not at an angle
compact oxide
Imagine not just ignoring BFV exists and playing better games 
tribal cairn
Yeah I've been taking a break from BFV, been playing Batman Arkham Knight
compact oxide
@spiral trail you can stop with the reaction spam
spiral trail
ok
compact oxide
@tribal cairn monster hunter myself, but damn good game
spiral trail
I'll try
tribal cairn
It is, yeah.
spiral trail
lmao
steel agate
I want to see a Doom video of Panzerbuschses against one tank, sort of like his BF1 video of 32 Kolibris taking out a plane
tribal cairn
I've been considering also getting Darksiders 3 for this month's PS plus sale
analog mist
@tribal cairn You know it's free right now with PS+
tribal cairn
Yeah I already know
steel agate
If you've never played BF4, then I'd download it and play it
nice, it's a good change of pace from historic BFs
Servers should still be going strong, last I played a couple months ago
Like in the game itself?
Pretty standard things like playing SP, unlocking weapons, and getting the bow
You can get the bow by picking it up in Operation Outbreak
It'll be yours permanently
SP will get you SP specific weapons like the MP412 Rex
If you want sure
coarse thunder
ionic musk