So hostile
#battlefield-legacy-titles
faint spindle
solid hinge
Nobody wants to hear you cry abour every little thing
while you enjoy any game you want
Go to reddit and cry with your fellow weebs there
seething
faint spindle
Is tank shell "dusting " a thing in bfv?
solid hinge
Cause you conviniently forget how much of a fucking shit show bf4 was to pusb your bfv bad bf4 good circlejerk
Yes
Yes
faint spindle
Where every other shell you fire just puffed white smoke on impact with no damage
solid hinge
I agree
imagine being this assblasted because someone doesn't like your game
mate can you just fuck off
dense bone
its not about liking a game or not, its about being unreasonable and spreading lies for your agenda
solid hinge
seething
rich ember
BF4 is good now. doesn't mean it always was, but it is now
solid hinge
You dont like the game shut up and fuck off to reddit
rich ember
You need to calm down, sir.
faint spindle
Bf4 was absolute garbage on release.
rich ember
@faint spindle i am well aware
dense bone
it was garbage 6 months after release
faint spindle
Agreed
dense bone
pretty sure it was the 7th month they actually fixed most of the problems
solid hinge
were gonna forget how bad bf4 was so we can cry about how bfv bad bf4 good
"r-reddit" - says enraged dork for the 100th time
did a weeb just call me a dork ffs
rich ember
"We're gonna forget how bad BF4 was"
Literally just mentioned how BF4 wasn't always good, but it's good now
midnight nimbus
difference is BF4 became better after launch with better performance
and BFV performance just got considerably worse
little raptor
hot take
dense bone
at least it worked?
rich ember
like, i understand you're upset but please fucking read
little raptor
the Tommygun is the only good gun
little raptor
if anyone ever drops it, i dont care what class im playing, im stealing it
dense bone
@little raptor youre hot take is wrong and you should probably leave
little raptor
it is objectively the best and only weapon in BFV
rich ember
nice filter
little raptor
i will state the truth till the day i die- the m1922 is the only gun you should ever use
solid hinge
Right im off
dense bone
g1-5 only gun people should use
rich ember
ok bye
rich ember
I don't think anyone forgets BF4's launch, it's just practically irrelevant to keep bringing up shit that's not the case currently.
solid hinge
Remember to try to be a normal human instead of a weeaboo fuck
dense bone
its fair to compare one thing to another in the same time frame if thats what is being brought up
solid hinge
Goodnight
little raptor
bringing up BF4's launch is only to show that BFV is not the biggest low point for BF, and they have all the potential to shine again
solid hinge
"t-they'll fix it any day now!"
rich ember
you're just justifying complaining about it because it was bad at launch like 6 years ago
dense bone
shamse gets it
rich ember
BF4 didn't even have the whole "don't like it don't buy it" shit
solid hinge
Ofcourse, the brony and the weeb dont get the point.
little raptor
As much as BF is buggy, I don't remember weapons that crash servers just for being fired
rich ember
They hadn't managed to piss off about 85% of the community before the game launched.
dense bone
if you dont like it, dont buy it
midnight nimbus
difference between BF4 launch and BFV today is that a bunch of DICE didn't leave before BF4 launch 😃
dense bone
whats controversial about that?
rich ember
@dense bone that statement made a lot of people very angry.
little raptor
the don't like it don't buy it thing isn't even that big deal, they're mostly talking about people who are mad about "WoMen!!1!"
solid hinge
Marita fucken sucks
dense bone
when people are seemingly more mad at a company saying dont like dont buy vs a game not working for 6 months
those people that got angry are pansies
rich ember
true
dense bone
gamers say it all the time, why doe sit matter when a corporate shill says it?
midnight nimbus
> people complaining about BFV but also playing it
rich ember
i think it's more cause a corporate shill from EA is saying it
dense bone
literally that phrase only took off because gamers are petty shits that want to make a big deal out of nothing
little raptor
@midnight nimbus dude, thats the sub
solid hinge
@midnight nimbus Did you mean: Levelcap?
little raptor
hardcore, its people flaming after playing it for 5 hours straight
midnight nimbus
at least levelcap gets (indirectly) paid for it
little raptor
and then looking for the one person who decided to quit and upvoting the fuck outta em
solid hinge
Nnnno he don't. Not after the shit he speaks
little raptor
@steady nymph i saw a post yesterday by a dude saying "the LGBT shouldn't have been allowed to touch thhis game. also you cant say im racist, im south korean"
it was a big 
rich ember
what
little raptor
right?
solid hinge
dense bone
i hope they are trolling and not stupid
little raptor
I think they were genuine
dense bone
you never know
solid hinge
Can't be racist if you're south korean bois
rich ember
there's multiple things wrong with this statement, i don't know where to start.
dense bone
perks of text and anonymity
solid hinge
little raptor
FPS players seem to believe that the FPS community is a bastion of "free speech toxicity"
solid hinge
source
solid hinge
rich ember
ceddit?
solid hinge
huh
rich ember
i believe there's an alt version of reddit that shows stuff that's been deleted
midnight nimbus
I don't blame YouTubers for complaining about BFV because they at least make money doing something they hate
solid hinge
why do you all care so much about reddit
rich ember
@solid hinge eh, there are decent subreddits. the gaming ones typically aren't those, though.
dense bone
my problem with reddit is that thier over exaggerated, upvote seeking, dramatic attitude seems to seep into a lot of internet forums/chat apps
solid hinge
thanks for the gold kind stranger
dense bone
you ask, you get a response, and act like a prick in turn
rich ember
basically if you want decent conversation, you don't look on gaming subreddits, because you'll never find it.
dense bone
this chat is generally a decent place to talk
rich ember
like don't ever actually look at a text post
dense bone
theres mostly just spurts of nonsense like recently
solid hinge
of course your discussion is going to be bad if there's an upvote and downvote system
that's how circlejerks are born
dense bone
give it a week and this chat will be the same 20 people that are normally here actually talking about the game and having constructive conversations
little raptor
GAMERS™ have the idea of a "community" be part of the sell of a video game
so the fact that BFV doesn't have a content online space to speak the games pros is a massive drawback
analog mist
The Battlefield "tank gunner" phenomena has always mystified me.
dense bone
theres very few gaming communities i would actually promote as being an asset to the game
analog mist
Always shooting at everything but the infantry.
little raptor
as much as we hate it, BFV needs to have a happy Subreddit to move forward well
rich ember
@dense bone like what
dense bone
rocket league is one of them
little raptor
part of the "engagement loop" (cringe, I know, bear with me here) is playing the game, and then hoping onto the subreddit to feed that 'engagement' into social media
dense bone
certain mmo communities i played had very welcoming and friendly people
guild wars 2, perfect world
little raptor
that in parts, keeps players playing without the devs having to do it
rich ember
@little raptor you can't force people to be happy if they're not happy with how the game is. that's not gonna work, that just causes people to leave.
little raptor
I-- I'm not saying anything of the like, I'm saying how important the subreddit is despite us writing it off as a toxic hell hole
little raptor
it is, and thats why the Devs should take the Subs word, because players of a big game need a big community to flock to
and if they just go back to a toxic landscape, they either leave or join in
"Societal Pressure, thought it can be subtle, is in fact impossibly strong."
-College Humor
faint spindle
"A wolf does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep."
rich ember
that youtube channel with the weird parody animations that i found funny when i was like 12
solid hinge
there is nothing more cringe than quoting fiction
little raptor
ok, I'mma have to stop you there
rich ember
i could think of a few things
little raptor
its from this video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQtSdsR1-H8
rich ember
k
solid hinge
quoting stuff because you can't argue for yourself is already bad enough
little raptor
it was a summarization of a quote by Anatol France, which was about how "choice" is part of a social cons-- you know what, this is too deep for a BF discussion lol
solid hinge
"o rly" The Expanse fans when the show was cancelled
"evil is bad" - cool fictional character
dense bone
i dont think you care about what words people pick for their argument, quote or not
little raptor
and also, "quoting stuff cause you cant argue" is a very 
critique
dark sorrel
BF V deserves a toxic subreddit
dense bone
#doubt
solid hinge
that's redundant
dark sorrel
There's only so much generosity a AAA product can get from their audience
solid hinge
every subreddit is toxic
dense bone
generosity?
north ravine
this is alive
dense bone
when has dice had generosity for bfv?
little raptor
rich ember
@solid hinge eh, hobby subreddits tend to be ok
little raptor
lol, i never knew this existed
solid hinge
Except #wholesome animememes
dark sorrel
Exactly
dense bone
every game subreddit is probably horrible
little raptor
horny subs are also ok 
solid hinge
Remember when "toxic" meant something and wasn't just a word for "this person isn't lobotomized"
or something that involves people creating stuff themselves
dark sorrel
DICE aren't treating the game with any generosity so why the fuck should we
north ravine
reddit is horrible
midnight nimbus
MW reddit is good
north ravine
have you guys checked lgbtq subreddit
little raptor
assuming they're tastefully horny, which you know, WORDING :D
midnight nimbus
bc they love to own the boomers
north ravine
that shit is so fuckin weird
dense bone
live service with maps we dont pay for sounds generous
ionic musk
lol
little raptor
Im waiting to see the MW sub go ham on fucking biscuits when lootboxes get added 4 months later
dense bone
yea those maps are slow and they say they will come sooner, but when i dont pay for them i personally cant find a justifiable reason to get mad at them
solid hinge
i think part of the intent of a live service is that the initial purchase helps fund the unfinished state of the game
dense bone
idk, they were only 1 map short of bf1 launch maps
north ravine
they are adding lootboxes wdym @little raptor
topaz dome
reeeee no next week teaser in tow 
north ravine
they wont have a season pass
little raptor
i cant believe that MW is being considered "innovative" for going back to modern war like it was 6 years ago
@north ravine wait, already?
solid hinge
im less irritated at maps and more at lack of gadgets and weapon choices
north ravine
but microtransactions are still there
dense bone
ehh, people use the same 3-5 guns
solid hinge
cant judge the game till you played it tbf
north ravine
Yea they only said a season pass wont exist
dense bone
i dont get the point in getting mad there arent more
fervent knot
Im kinda annoyed about this conversation what game are we talking about rn? MW or BFV
little raptor
yeah, hopefully the competitive 5v5 has enough content to recycle into the main game
little raptor
@fervent knot LOL i feel ya
north ravine
theres also a 50v50 mode
solid hinge
half the guns in the game are like, the smallest variation
dense bone
more new to the class they were given to
north ravine
another anti tank
little raptor
so its russian? 
gray glade
its spelled panzerbuchse tho
fervent knot
Is the Panzerbüchse a german weapon or what?
little raptor
can you really be sure? 
solid hinge
I cant spell!
little raptor
ill stop
strange dome
panzer-boob
little raptor
Partwelsh has responded about recycling content from single player
north ravine
ea also called us dicks btw
fervent knot
Its easy to pronounce might be because im german so yeah
little raptor
fervent knot
Had a dog called Filou thats how i chose that name @north ravine
north ravine
hmm nice
little raptor
basically, yeah they have the power to recycle, but they havent because they would need 3rd person animations and balance and specializations
so its possible with half the work done, but it would still need development time
dense bone
certain people "i hope you die for making cosmetics expensive"
dev "dont be a dick"
gamers "omg respawn called us all dicks"
north ravine
this guyy smh
dark sorrel
Yeah not splitting the community with maps is cool, but at the expense of:
General polish
Flavour
Weapons
Interesting equipment
Naval stuff
Factions
Microtransactions
Boins
gray glade
the battlefield reddit needs to chill
solid hinge
Imagine still playing the game
gray glade
its so damn toxic
north ravine
every game community is toxic asf
north ravine
you realize that dont you
dense bone
some more than others
dense bone
bfv community really throws temper tantrums though
solid hinge
it already has the 3d animations
little raptor
speaking of factions, Nikolas Astrand also spoke on twitter about it. I've always suspsected it, but basically making a new faction would require a shit ton more voice work than previous battlefields
fervent knot
I love the chauchat
little raptor
so honestly, BFV is suffering from too much potential, lol.
solid hinge
the literal only reason they have left is that they dont have it balanced yet but they have had nine months to do this
dark sorrel
I mean communities are more likely to be angry and react crazily when the base product is in a bad state
little raptor
too much potential/a team unequipped to meet that expectation
dark sorrel
Why would it need more voice work?
dark sorrel
Compared to say BF 1
ionic musk
Isn't EA suppose to have a 24/7 number?
little raptor
@dark sorrel so if they added another faction, they would need to record a collective 4 hours of voice samples
polar totem
Just import it from BF1 if ya have to for fucks sake
solid hinge
there was a fair while without cc and quite a lot of other bugs nyphon
dark sorrel
They were happy to do what for BF 1
ionic musk
when they're website users are posting what they can't solve?
dense bone
shooting mechanics are the same from bf1 and bfv? (no)
midnight nimbus
remember when BF had functioning footsteps?
solid hinge
not bf4 level but certainly not acceptable level
little raptor
people aren't listening
fervent knot
Hope BFV gets better. Love that game
little raptor
BFV has a far bigger amount of voice work in the game than previous battlefields
solid hinge
im putting my tinfoil hat on and saying they wont add the chauchat because they dont want an LMG with a different damage model until the Pacific releases
polar totem
Objectively worse than the bar, hands down
little raptor
combine that with having to record voice line for men and women, and you have a big amount of space that sound is taking
weak violet
Sup
little raptor
so they probably havent come up with a way to tackle that yet
dense bone
sup trvor
little raptor
sup
solid hinge
games already massive
weak violet
Ello Nyphon
dark sorrel
Can't say I've really noticed there being more chatter in BF V
haughty pawn
dafuq,somke grenade did 20 dmg,new feature ? 
polar totem
?
dense bone
having more voicelines doesnt mean they play more voicelines
solid hinge
Blunt trauma
weak violet
I have said Sup 324 times
dense bone
do people really not think?
fervent knot
I want the chauchat so badly cause it looks so cool. Yeah uhm idk.
haughty pawn
ofc smokes kill 
weak violet
@dense bone What do you expect
dense bone
some slightl effort into a conversation
dense bone
fuck
haughty pawn
but that smoke grenade doing dmg,never seen that one before lol
north ravine
Trebor
weak violet
rich ember
weak violet
What is it Fweeze
rich ember
NOT MY VIDEO MODS
weak violet
!ban @rich ember 
rich ember
ok
weak violet
:))
rich ember
i like his tone at the beginning. "I'm still at gamescom."
"I'm still at gamescom, they won't let me leave."
dark sorrel
Gamescom is rly weird
fervent knot
Why?
rich ember
i donno it's just funny to me.
dark sorrel
It seems to just be the Ray Tracing show off experience for a lot of games idk
ionic musk
Lol
dark sorrel
Though that Humankind game by the people that did Endless Legends looks sikkk
crystal turtle
does anyone wanna play as a squad in bf5??
rich ember
Isn't there new footage of Carrion?
dark sorrel
Hopefully someone will unseat Cid Meirs as The Historical Civ Makers
Because Civ VI was garbo
dense bone
!!lfg
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solid hinge
aaaall the comments saying "another broken sniper fuck dice uugghthhhgh"
dense bone
@crystal turtle
rich ember
@solid hinge quickscopes
crystal turtle
sowwy
polar totem
@dark sorrel people say that after every civ game
So does it have more power or what is it’s deal compared to the boys
solid hinge
afaik slower fire rate and higher damage
rich ember
i think it reloads faster
polar totem
Oh no
polar totem
Ah like the smle in BF1 then
rich ember
yeah but it's faster than the bolt animation for the Boys
solid hinge
they have a box on the side of the gun that has the rounds in for quick movement
...you serious?
rich ember
seems like it
solid hinge
please dont tell me this gun is another fucking clone
polar totem
Oh god no
solid hinge
holy shit
polar totem
Oh god please no
solid hinge
stop adding the same gun
ionic musk
which...
rich ember
BFV: The Clone Wars
ionic musk
what gun?
polar totem
Just like the simulations
solid hinge
i want an anti tank rifle that actually annoys tanks
rich ember
but that wouldn't be realistic because AT rifles stopped being usable in WW2
polar totem
We need a revised tank hunter rifle
solid hinge
battlefield is dead to call of duty
i dont think wireless sticky dynamite existed in wwii either
rich ember
you're right it probably didn't
solid hinge
but i hear a surprisingly low amount of complaints about that
haughty pawn
just rebuff the at pistol ffs..
ionic musk
just research anti tank rifles of WW2.
polar totem
And the tiger shouldn’t exist yet
rich ember
but shouldn't the STG also not exist yet?
solid hinge
no it should't
polar totem
Yeah, you’re right
rich ember
or the Vulksturmgewehr?
fervent knot
Wireless Sticky Dynamite? Totally realistic who doesnt know about that?
fervent knot
The USA didnt have nuclear bombs they just triggered a lot of wireless sticky dynamite.
polar totem
Actually at rifles should be king right now, because the PIAT and Panzerfaust shouldn’t be used in any of the maps yet
Basically assault really shouldn’t be a class yet, because most of its gadgets didn’t exist in 1940-41
fervent knot
Yeah but its fun lol
polar totem
For gameplay they have to I get that
rich ember
so basically BFV is just selective time-travel
ionic musk
not exactly.
fervent knot
Vulksturmgewehr?
rich ember
@fervent knot you know, the Gewehr 1-5?
polar totem
So where’s the whole”It’S NoT HiStOrIcAlLy AcCuRaTe” crowd now?
fervent knot
Yeah the level 20 one?
rich ember
yeah that
polar totem
Or is that just for women and minorities
rich ember
@steady nymph i thought it was Vulk but ok
fervent knot
Volkssturmgewehr makes a lot more sense
rich ember
@polar totem it's The Gamers™
ionic musk
^^
fervent knot
Atleast in german it makes more sense
ionic musk
Using racism in videos is no different from people approving for gun control. Then start talking about (When does that next call of duty comes out?)
rich ember
seems like a weird segue but okay
fervent knot
Yeah thats correct
dark sorrel
Yo I loved that map on Red Orchestra set on the final attack on the Reichstag and the axis play as the Volksturm
ionic musk
They outlawed cocaine and people still get it.
dark sorrel
And are armed with really shit versions of older stuff
Like guns that use Bakelite grips instead of wood
ionic musk
have you seen WW2 in color? or WW2 in HD?
solid hinge
yeah, it's pretty alright
dark sorrel
For some reason my parents have a Bakelite phone from the 40s in their house and the receiver was mad heavy
Maybe it's the stuff inside idk
ionic musk
Why is it being taken out?
dark sorrel
Yeah
solid hinge
probably don't have the license anymore
dark sorrel
@ionic musk the world of Netflix licensing is a dark and terrible place
ionic musk
yeah watch it youtube.
rich ember
i don't personally have a subscription, i just watch it off someone else's account because of course i do
ionic musk
yeah ant it is
fervent knot
Over here in germany its pretty ok
rich ember
It's not great here either
ionic musk
all how you think of living.
fervent knot
Im gonna go to sleep. Hope to see some of you in bfv
dark sorrel
I trolled my friends at uni because they only had a VHS player and asked me to get some tapes from the antique shop and they had the entire like 12 tape collection for £5 so I just got that
Also Chicken Run
rich ember
so you trolled your friends by getting them what they asked for
dark sorrel
They wanted Disney stuff
It's about World War II
Battlefield V is ostensibly set in World War 2
It is on topic
Also rules say "preferably about Battlefield" :)
ionic musk
Trolling can be annoying.
dark sorrel
"please insert the reload tape"
Nah if its in good spirits its fun
Like how at uni again I used to leave my house to visit my Gf every night and if my housemates hadn't done the washing up I'd use my admin access to the Internet router to block all porn sites :))))
As a final action before leaving
Yeah that'd be cool
Or a BF set in the 1800s would be neat
There's quite a variety of weaponry, locations and ideas they could run with
I wouldn't mind another 2142 but idk if DICE will go there while managing Battlefront
I was about to say that'd be neat
buoyant knot
What I want is bc3 and that's what it's probably going to be
dark sorrel
If it was set in the 1950s / 60s
Man yknow what'd be sick
If EA resurrected Red Alert as a Battlefield game
rich ember
@buoyant knot Look at how DICE is now. Do you really think they would make BC3 as good as you think it would be?
buoyant knot
that's another thing
rich ember
no it's the same thing
dark sorrel
Like Allies would have good middle of the road tech whilst Soviets would get weak basic weapons but great equipment options
buoyant knot
Just please be modern. that's all
rich ember
The writers behind BC2 probably aren't going to be involved. How well do you think the current writing team is going to handle it?
if there even is a writing team.
dark sorrel
Like Soviets get old AK 47s but also tesla cannons
buoyant knot
this is like hl3
icy sluice
I don't think Bad Company 3 would have the same tone as Bad Company 2 with comedy
dark sorrel
Einstein kills Hman to stop Hcaust but the lack of Nzi Germany causes the Soviet Union to develop unchecked
solid hinge
I was testing the filter dummy
icy sluice
I assume they'll mostly just be "YEAH WE'RE BADASS SOLDIERS" all the way through, kind of like CoD Modern Warfare's feel
buoyant knot
@icy sluice yeah... just the voice lines from bf3 comparing to now tells the story
dark sorrel
So it gets to the 1960s and each nation has become crazy versions of themselves
icy sluice
I LIKE THAT
dark sorrel
With the US being idealistic patriot flag saluting types and the Soviets have zero value in their soldiers lives but have crazy science tech
Yeah in the third game the Soviet Union is about to collapse so they go back in time and kill Einstein to stop him developing advanced tech for the Allies
icy sluice
That is honestly funny and engaging
dark sorrel
But instead find out the nuke was never invented so Japan was never stopped
So Japan starts fielding laser katana soldiers and mechsuits and schoolgirls capable of levelling cities
Its camp as fuck but its great
But as a BF game it'd be fun
I love how Tim is visibly trying not to laugh before he shouts Space
icy sluice
Oh we're talking about Red Alert.
dark sorrel
Ye
There's also a Soviet mission in Red Alert 2 where the Allies steal some tech so you go back in time to stop them but you overshoot the time machine and have to use Conscripts and tanks to hold off Dinosaurs in the jurassic age whilst the engineers sort out the problem
Which would be a fun battle
One side play as the Soviet Union, the others play as Dinosaurs
But I think it would translate well to Battlefield if each side got their own equipment without sharing
echo glen
Why does BFV have days where you dominate and do good then the next you get killed by every possible thing
dark sorrel
The Allies have better conventional weaponry but limited experimental stuff, and the Soviets have poor quality conventional stuff and better experimental
languid flare
solid hinge
Is Al Sundan delayed??
dark sorrel
In RA 2 the Soviets get airships
tribal cairn
I think Soviet candidates for the light tank would either be the BT or T-50
Medium being T-34,
And IS-2 as heavy
dark sorrel
And helicopters that turn into tanks
tribal cairn
That or KV-1
dark sorrel
Would be their light tank
eternal anchor
Hey
solid hinge
Should all tanks receive a buff and a mobility nerf?
icy sluice
Should all tanks get their tracks removed? (joking)
A mobility nerf tho?
Let's make the TIGER even slower, yes.
solid hinge
Tanks are slow
icy sluice
Nerf means making it worse
solid hinge
And buff it so it needs 5 assaults to yeet it
The bt 5 is so strong it can turn into a nuke
Making it TOO strong makes it a pain if you have to solo it
Its a heavy, its supposed to be strong
Just disable its tracks so it wont run away
And engine
tribal cairn
I think the tiger should receive even more damage resistance to the front and sides, the armor doesn't seem to hold up against PIATs even then.
Rear should be the defined weak spot
solid hinge
^
tribal cairn
From the top,
ionic musk
It sounds like a portion of people are having issues running the game.
tribal cairn
It can also be vulnerable
solid hinge
Tanks do funny amounts of damage to other tanks
I'd prefer the tiger get a mobility boost rather than more armour
Make it strong against dynamite and PIATs
tribal cairn
Agreed.
solid hinge
The tiger only does 30 damage to half tracks.....m
dense bone
make tanks 2 man
tired of all these solo tank users mad they dont have a higher kdr than they already do
tribal cairn
I think that along with that new added resistance, it's crippled speed should be a bit faster.
dense bone
sub 2.0 players saying tanks suck when their tank kdr is 5+
solid hinge
Then make stranger spawn into tanks
dense bone
people want high kd games just because they are in a vehicle
solid hinge
tanks deserve higher damage vs other tanks
dense bone
wack
solid hinge
it's too easy to back out of a fight
if you're careful you'll never die in a tank unless theres a bomber
midnight nimbus
> infy players not accepting their place at the bottom of the hierarchy
tribal cairn
So here's what I'm thinking
Minimum vehicular damage should be 45
Maximum with one shot, 75.
solid hinge
Better idea = You must trade score to spawn in a heavy
tribal cairn
We're not turning this into battlefront
solid hinge
Like in war thunder...
dense bone
i normally just avoid tanks, not that they are commonly at objectives anyway
they off side of map farming kills to pad their kd because they suck at infy
dense bone
which would be true, if we all knew that tanks were basically used to farm kdr
echo glen
I like that the tank kills infantry as support so I don't mind pushing foward as a tank despite the risks
midnight nimbus
based game design combines fun (farming) with win condition (playing the objective)
tribal cairn
Honestly, I don't mind providing fire support from a distance
I'm destroying cover,
midnight nimbus
terrorizing everyone and capping a flag is totally doable in BF4
dark sorrel
I liked how tanks functioned in BF 1
echo glen
Tank charges are fun
dark sorrel
Ie a means to break a stalemate
dense bone
you and some might play like that, but lets not act like 70% of people getting into a vehicle arent using it to just abuse it to pad kdr
echo glen
Tanks in BF1 were stacked
dark sorrel
They were tanky enough to take a lot of heat and draw fire
But didn't spawn duper often
soft storm
Tanks in BFV are fun just for taking and holding control points
It’s fun to survive shit like a whole squad of assaults and supports coming after your ass for killing them on C on Arras
midnight nimbus
oh noooooo people use something in an FPS game to kill a ton of people
soft storm
And they get close only for you to activate Line charges or mines
midnight nimbus
let's not pretend that these people play a shooter to kill people
tribal cairn
I don't have mines sadly because I'm painfully trying to level up my vehicles
icy sluice
Yeah man, shooting games make violent people
midnight nimbus
people that can't accept that BF is combined arms
and infy sits at the bottom of the hierarchy in combined arms
hazy wasp
We talking about how Infantry only Battlefield isn't battlefield?
Land Sea and Air bois, girls and all those in between
midnight nimbus
infy only BF is fun
but don't complain that infy gets wrecked on vehicle maps 🤷🏼♀️
soft storm
I’d be completely fine if they designed a map where the main combined arms aspect is keeping half-tracks up and running
midnight nimbus
yeah, armored cars are fun (when done right)
tribal cairn
That would be fun, a map based around Motorized Infantry
hazy wasp
like Arica Harbor on BC2 conquest
tribal cairn
Both
midnight nimbus
BF4 MRAP would've been a pretty decent vehicle if the driver can control the MG
midnight nimbus
no one wants to play taxi driver
tribal cairn
They could add an actual armored car for the Germans
midnight nimbus
yeah the Puma
tribal cairn
Exactly
hazy wasp
Although speaking of just driving around, on BF3 a friend and I won our team the game on KKharg Island by using the jeeps to capture points faster than the enemy could recap them
some Fast and Furious level driving, Highest points on the eladerboard, 0 kills 0 deaths 😛
midnight nimbus
or T18 Boarhound 👀
tribal cairn
When Americans roll around,
midnight nimbus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T18_Boarhound
man who cares about Staghound
hazy wasp
BFV Maps also lack the intensity of vehicles honestly
tribal cairn
I bet 100 percent that there will be gun rushing hellcats
midnight nimbus
not that i have any faith in BFV or its vehicle design
bc BFV vehicle design sucks
hazy wasp
Vehicles spawn too slowly
tribal cairn
Instead of the Boarhound,
hazy wasp
and need like an extra 1 or 2 per map
tribal cairn
What about the Greyhound?
echo glen
Where's muh Australian tank, the sentinel?
hazy wasp
putting shrimp on the barbie
just created by the HE shell that blew up another vehicle
icy sluice
Fun Fact, they don't put Shrimp on the Barbie
echo glen
If you consider being abused and neglected by someone for 300 years I'd say that's pretty unlucky
echo glen
Famines, Subjugation by Britian
soft storm
More unlucky than uganda?
soft storm
Ok
Sad to see you go but I guess I’ll see you during the pacific
Since everybody coming back then lmao
formal valve
I’m not leaving for good
I’ll still be here for the weapon drops
And underground
But
It’s hard to go on
soft storm
Ok
echo glen
I'm still salty about missing the Fäll Grun skin 
I'll use the power of EA support to get it
soft storm
Please ea
strange dome
Am 40 in tow so every second week ill unlock the previous weeks reward with 1700cc lol
tribal wave
they sell skins
solid hinge
Oh cool
echo glen
Do they sell the knifes?
solid hinge
Why am I playing this
tribal wave
you can buy them with company coins or the battlefield coins
but u have to go to the armory
and it changes every day
I think
they dont sell knives
formal valve
It changes every week
echo glen
I know, just making a joke
gloomy kraken
Its a figure head weapon skin.
echo glen
Just feels out of place
icy sluice
gloomy kraken
Like on old school ships
cinder sundial
Yea that's pretty dumb
gloomy kraken
Still Its one of the more ”worth it” skins even if Its out of place.
cinder sundial
@echo glen btw I love senko
echo glen
I see you are a person of culture as well
gloomy kraken
As other skins are just a badly brushed layers of paint
icy sluice
Madsen also has it
cinder sundial
mofu mofu
echo glen
That Madsen looks sick
cinder sundial
But why tho
gloomy kraken
Currently my MP40 is my best looking gun as it has the most 3D stuff on it.
I always choose a skin that has 3D parts
compact oxide
But why? Because they need more random stuff
tribal cairn
I'd think my STG-44 is my best looking weapon
soft storm
Honestly, don’t give a fuck about “historical” accuracy on guns anymore
gloomy kraken
And sometimes you can mix and match skins
soft storm
Give the STG the fucking night Vision backpack scope already
soft storm
Just make a fun game with polish and I’m good
compact oxide
All I want is my white general Liu skin from BF1
soft storm
I’ll play fucking BF 2143 if they make it
Wait lemme get this straight
These guys complaining about the mermaid are the same guys running gold skins in BF1 right
compact oxide
@soft storm it's not a historical accuracy argument, more the mermaid skin looks weird
compact oxide
Does it look as good as Bf1 skins? No
gloomy kraken
Mean while you can go around as a pink furry in R6S
soft storm
I mean, I could log onto CoD WW2 and show you the a skin I have for that same gun
gloomy kraken
God, my only free pack gave me that pink furry head gear back then...
icy sluice
I have played one Online Match in Siege, got an American Shotty
gloomy kraken
Speaking of American shotties, cant Wait for Model 37 Stakeout.
soft storm
I can’t wait for more shotguns period
icy sluice
I can't wait for more periods
soft storm
CoD WW2 did shotguns dirty, I want more shotguns for WW2 games
gloomy kraken
What shotgun was it that was in some BFV trailers but is not added yet?
Was in BF1
solid hinge
tfw your team gets 6 deaths total and you got 10 revives
😌
once again proving squad conquest sucks
The spirfire va bro 👀
900rpm tommy gun though, holy shit
The 8 machine guns are deadly
gloomy kraken
Try 4x hispanos at a bomber.
gloomy kraken
Yup, the bomber gets a kill
solid hinge
An ENTIRE GROUP of squads infiltrated a server and 90% of it was [H*SL], I think they're hacking.
soft storm
Are they hacking or nah
stoic aspen
We'll never know
polar totem
So wait, 5v5 isn’t happening anymore?
barren geyser
If you say a guy on the PC Asian servers is hacking I would believe you.
polar totem
So finally dice realized that battlefield isn’t meant for a competitive play style
barren geyser
Depends if there is proof tho.
polar totem
It’s on the newest post for #game-news
Squad conquest and rush are confirmed for the new maps
soft storm
It depends
polar totem
Wait not rush
teal hinge
We know
soft storm
It could mean
polar totem
Team death match
soft storm
They just don’t got the resources to do it
teal hinge
TDM
soft storm
An they gonna attempt to do this again in a few years
teal hinge
barren geyser
Rush is one of my favorite game modes tho.
teal hinge
no
midnight nimbus
> So finally dice realized that battlefield isn’t meant for a competitive play style
never watched BF4 ESL obliteration
polar totem
Hardline tried it and it didn’t work
midnight nimbus
BF used to have great mechanics for comp
polar totem
Battlefield 1 tried it and it didn’t work
midnight nimbus
was something completely fresh
really different movement and gunplay from the rest of the FPS scene
different modes
polar totem
TBH most of this info for me is coming second hand
midnight nimbus
BF1 movement sucked for comp
polar totem
I had no clue that BF1 had a 5v5 mode up until it was dead
midnight nimbus
BF4 5s/8s/10s were actually great
stoic aspen
It's not even completely dead
barren geyser
Is it me or is sniping in BF1 easier than sniping in BF4?
polar totem
You can’t play incursions anymore
stoic aspen
Meh
barren geyser
Was it because of bullet drop differences?
stoic aspen
Conquest is still good in BF1
polar totem
I tend to strip off the scopes and go for a close quarters playstyle with recon
barren geyser
If it is Locker conquest then I would play it.
I am mostly an Operations person in BF1.
midnight nimbus
BF used to have so many good game modes 😔
polar totem
It defeats the point I know but how else am I going to be able to unlock all the snipers
stoic aspen
By buying the packs
polar totem
Bf1 operation > bf5 operation
drifting marsh
@polar totem yea i mean
barren geyser
Every Battlefield in existence > BFV
polar totem
It was tense and frantic
midnight nimbus
40p Ops was 👌👌👌
polar totem
At least until the autobalance put you on the other team about 6 minutes before the match ended
When the attacking team was on the final objective
midnight nimbus
I've come to the conclusion that 64p sucks when you aren't in a vehicle
you can't fucking move in 64p infy only maps
gloomy kraken
Marita
drifting marsh
@gloomy kraken your pfp describes your comment
polar totem
Hopefully al soondone is actually going to be ready by September
gloomy kraken
midnight nimbus
running around looking for people in 64p as infy is so boring
but in a vehicle, the people come to you 😃
polar totem
@midnight nimbus then you must hate hardline
polar totem
Yeah I mean, aside from Everglades the maps were good
solid hinge
pls sleep !
midnight nimbus
The Block 64p is pure degeneracy
solid hinge
😂
gloomy kraken
The BFV transport are a bit slow
midnight nimbus
but it's great at 32p
I loved Everglades
good times in an attack heli
great blood money map
kinda meh playing as infy on conquest
polar totem
Speaking as a Floridian, I don’t think that the airboats came with miniguns
ionic musk
Getting kills at the ridiculous level.. gets called out for hacking. Going 0-10 in a round gets called noob, trash, and any other degrading word man know possible.
gloomy kraken
Expecially that Allies open top half-track, never setting my foot on that vehicle again.
midnight nimbus
rule of cool
polar totem
But that’s not entirely out of the realm of positivity
midnight nimbus
minigun airboats were fucking epic
polar totem
Then again the crocodile pickup is totally Florida
gloomy kraken
Florida man
polar totem
It would’ve been a gator but otherwise it’s realistic
midnight nimbus
Hardline had great infy/vehicle balance tbh
vehicles that were fun but didn't dunk on infy too hard
bc not military
gloomy kraken
Expect the rpg spam on hotwire
polar totem
Some people down here have tried throwing gators at drive through employees
tardy jackal
hardline played more like cod and i kinda liked it
midnight nimbus
it was an awesome halfway point between CoD and BF
gloomy kraken
The emblem spray was Fun
polar totem
The guns were a blast
midnight nimbus
in a military combined arms shooter, not playing as vehicles when you have the choice kinda sucks
bc military vehicles dunk on you so hard
barren geyser
2 words, custom servers.
polar totem
The mammoth gun is so much fun
gloomy kraken
Never got the mammoth, or the Lewis
I remember that
It was on a trailer was Well wasnt it?
polar totem
Lewis was called the syndicate gun, better than the HCAR
midnight nimbus
yeah, BF4 anti vehicle measures were pretty good
2 RPGs to the engine kills a tank
SRAW was always good, even after repeated nerfs
gloomy kraken
BF3’s reactive armor was good.
midnight nimbus
even though you're not that good against infy or armor, nothing is safe from the MAA 😩
misty robin
Glitched*.
misty robin
I got to assault rank 13 and it said I unlocked the gun but I can’t use it until next round
midnight nimbus
nah SAA in BF4 is good
lost pilot
i miss battlepacks
midnight nimbus
alleviates a lot of potential spawn trapping
misty robin
I got DC’d later in the game and I rejoined and played a full round and it still won’t let me use the gun
drifting marsh
@midnight nimbus it can't be controlled at all
._.
just bs
and never misses a shot
misty robin
Can someone please help with this
gloomy kraken
I learned So late in BF3’s life cycle that inside the American Carrier spawn boat hangar was a door So you can use the SAA without having to climb on the runway.
misty robin
Idk why it won’t let me use the gun
drifting marsh
@solid hinge at least someone could've control it
i don't mind that
it'd be fair
instead of having a literal bot aim
gloomy kraken
Unless someone were just sitting in it doing nothing.
drifting marsh
those are c unts yea
midnight nimbus
because no one wants to sit in spawn all game and no nothing but shoot at the occasional jet that tries to come into your spawn
and i don't trust some rando to protect my team from spawn trapping more than I trust the automated AA
drifting marsh
at least i was a good aa gunner
drifting marsh
damn
midnight nimbus
all you have to do is just not fly near the enemy base
drifting marsh
i wish i could leave the enemy spawn
midnight nimbus
problem solved
drifting marsh
without being legit shutdown...
midnight nimbus
even as an advocate of maximum degenerate tactics and frequent spawn trapping
it's good that BF4 made some kinda effort to reduce it
maximum degenerate tactics shouldn't exist
I'll still abuse them when I can
gloomy kraken
Mean while BFV’s AAs
drifting marsh
LOOOOL oh no
midnight nimbus
but fuck all the cheesy bullshit
drifting marsh
it's actually weak?
midnight nimbus
honestly could've stood to be a bit better
drifting marsh
wow
midnight nimbus
BFV AA is really bad
can't put out enough DPS to reliably stop a jet ram
even with perfect aim
meanwhile BF4, I can shut down any degenerate who tries to jet ram
gloomy kraken
Mean while any plane just needs to press one button to insta kill the AA
drifting marsh
stuka
vestal turtle
Hi! In the battlefield V stats, there is something called "killstreak", does it really mean you killed the X amount of people without dying? I just have 44 Top 10%
midnight nimbus
BFV killstreak tracking doesn't work 😃
midnight nimbus
like the rest of the stat tracking, it doesn't work properly
vestal turtle
why doesn`t it?
gloomy kraken
That Explains Why my 41 killstreak with staghound on Rotterdam is 39.
midnight nimbus
partially because the API is borked
partially because the game itself doesn't track or calculate many stats properly
says my highest killstreak is 65 when it's in the 80s
solid hinge
tfw you go 14 to 3 in the first minute of squad conquest and your team loses all 3 objectives with 3 kills between them
i dont get it man
i did almost 5 times better than 7 people put together
statistically that is very unlikely
and they had a fuckin clan stack and all
sonic rampart
Smh Ayla you shouldve not let the enemy capture the points cause you clearly can do that on your own and you’re totally not losing cause your teamm8s are running around like chickens
solid hinge
I love it when in bf1 ops your entire team is fucking useless so much that when you get in a plane 2 AA guns are on you and basically every support is firing at you
Not even joking
vestal turtle
is that cool? https://i.imgur.com/1kbcopX.png
solid hinge
O and also getting head shot with k bullets by a level 14
While in a moving plane
400 meters away
prime pine
Oh people are trying to get the parrabellum lmg
solid hinge
hey is that mermiad gun skin real
solid hinge
oh boy
terse mango
who wants to play
solid hinge
i dunno what's going on there
mossy willow
bf4 AA, take yeetrockets for unguided memes and the 30mm cannon with active protection then kill tanks
prime pine
Honestly the skin isnt that bad.
icy sluice
I prefer it over most BF1 skins
solid hinge
@prime pine no its not the parabellum
Its because they have nothing else to shoot
Cause my team was seriously nit pushing or anything
prime pine
You need to shoot planes down with lmgs to unlock the parrabellum.
mossy willow
I feel like Dice got distracted with a lot of content that doesnt matter
solid hinge
Half were scout and we had no tank support because they were morter
I know that but read what I just said
prime pine
There were nice bf1 skins.
prime pine
But there were those that weren't the best.
mossy willow
not just LOOK MAH ENGRAVINGS
prime pine
The care package for the m1911 was gorgeous
prime pine
I didnt save enough scrap to grab one sadly.
solid hinge
I just have the man stopper tho
mossy willow
the slide of an m1911 is machined to actually be physically attractive to the male brain
science
else why would I lick the screen when I see it
solid hinge
Well rawr it is
prime pine
Silver plated m1911 was originally in bf1 funny enough
It was for those who pre ordered bf5.
Then they re released it on bf5 and you cant get it anymore...
prime pine
Oic you a newcomer...
prime pine
Spent 120 here
solid hinge
Tf?
mossy willow
this is why I havent installed this game since 2 months ago
prime pine
Never experienced buyers remorse until i got that
prime pine
Lucky you with your adhd.... I dont bother with cosmetics
prime pine
I like cosmetics but i think of "Dont get riled up with them"
prime pine
Haha
mossy willow
I had keybind macros on GTAV to equip uniforms saved as and when appropriate
solid hinge
I buy boins out fits sometimes but i do try to get all the cc outfits
fervent pivot
wtf is thus
solid hinge
BBBBOOOOOOIIIIIINNNNNSSSSSS
prime pine
Haha
prime pine
Oh yeah
mossy willow
wtf is is this
prime pine
Jack thats a thing done on purpose to mislead people
solid hinge
Its called a false game
prime pine
Something the server owners do
mossy willow
oh yeah
solid hinge
fervent pivot
but even 30/60 is empty
mossy willow
gf legit thoughtit went BF 12345
fervent pivot
all servers are
solid hinge
They are prolly gonna fix it soon tho
solid hinge
Its a pretty big problem so i cant imagine it being here much longer