#battlefield-legacy-titles

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strange dome
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Or EA will just retire DICE like they done other developers.

copper gorge
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RIP Visceral

strange dome
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a new upcoming studio?

copper gorge
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They just get new people who won't make as much of a fuss

solid hinge
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Love you

strange dome
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Soon China is going to get into video game development farmers and we gonna get great games. BF6 with fortnite content releases.

copper gorge
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I don't think anyone thinks they're stupid

solid hinge
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ha

copper gorge
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I think people think EA like putting out games as soon as possible to get money in and then abandoning them

solid hinge
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the chinese can't make anything good

vestal locust
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How to put out more cosmetics for boins...

copper gorge
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"it was Greg's fault"

midnight nimbus
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> They can't though. Who else could develop Battlefield like DICE?
implying EA needs Battlefield

strange dome
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remember guys firestorm was like 10 maps in one. omg Why did they say that.

copper gorge
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@midnight nimbus exactly

midnight nimbus
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when respawn is perfectly capable of making EA's premiere FPS

copper gorge
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EA will eventually manage to fuck Titanfall too

solid hinge
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How do i access the new maps

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t i t a n f a l l 3

midnight nimbus
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titanfall uses source

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same with Apex

copper gorge
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Originally it used source I'm pretty sure they moved to unreal

midnight nimbus
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or does Apex use source?

copper gorge
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let me.google

rich ember
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Titanfall uses modified source, at least it did for Titanfall 2

midnight nimbus
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the files are formatted like source

copper gorge
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No I'm pretty sure it's the other way around

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Tf1 definitely used modified source

midnight nimbus
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oh yeah, Apex uses source

copper gorge
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I definitely remember a big thing being "they're using a new engine for TF2"

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But my brain could be making that up

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Nope it's still source just modified even more

midnight nimbus
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frostbite is made for one thing

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Battlefield

copper gorge
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Need for speed

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Oh

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That too

solid hinge
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frostbite is made for bugging

midnight nimbus
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EA Sports games are just simple enough to easily make with frostbite

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same with need for speed

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just physics simulators

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hype marketing

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something DICE seemingly forgot how to do

solid hinge
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WE NEED TITANFALL 3

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ASAP

copper gorge
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you know it's bad when I'm starting to miss battlefield hardline

compact oxide
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Frostbite is made for Anthem though Kappa

solid hinge
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Meep

midnight nimbus
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mfw people blame EA for anthem when it's bioware's fault for trying to make a game with an engine poorly suited for the job

compact oxide
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Pretty much

copper gorge
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I'm gonna finish the tides of war progression this week and then probably tap out for the rest of the season

prime pine
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So its official that the Breda is coming. Seems "fun"

copper gorge
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Unless there's anything Extremely interesting

solid hinge
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We need new (and free) vehicle skins for diversity

formal valve
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We have three new guns @copper gorge coming in the last three weeks

compact oxide
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It's pretty but frostbite isn't the engine for that kind of game, no wonder it went through dev hell

formal valve
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After this coming week

solid hinge
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I'd actually use a burst fire assault rifle

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so that's vaguely exciting

copper gorge
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@formal valve yeah I've seen them already and I'm not really a fan lmao

formal valve
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I’m actually kinda looking forward to the C96 Carbine

prime pine
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It reminds me of the fedorov

formal valve
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I thought I wasn’t gonna like it

solid hinge
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a recon weapon that can hopefully actually damage tanks

prime pine
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Weirdly

midnight nimbus
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DICE finally taking a note from based CoD in designing good burst weapons

solid hinge
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and the c96 that hopefully isnt a shitter p08

strange dome
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well jackfrag said its better in single shot mode than burst so hold off on that 😒

formal valve
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I liked the new weapon skins we saw

prime pine
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It doesnt seem to be super good, The breda but we'll see how it performs.

formal valve
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The Battered one looks really cool

strange dome
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ROBERTO stop it!

solid hinge
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I'm not super good either so that suits me

formal valve
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With the barbed wire wrapped around

midnight nimbus
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jackfrags's aim was also sperg tier terrible in his video

formal valve
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And kinda worn wood look

strange dome
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not the mermaid? I hope

formal valve
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The Blue and gold one looks not very my style

strange dome
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Sorry Merperson cant be genderish.

copper gorge
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There is not a single skin in this game that I like more than mint

midnight nimbus
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took DICE this long to make a burst gun that's effective at what you want a burst gun to be

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capable of killing in one burst well

strange dome
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lol

hazy wasp
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Air combat is super unfun

strange dome
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I was laughing at the last part victor.

rich ember
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@steady nymph ok I see you

vestal locust
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Wow... just watched Westie and Jackfrags vid... the tone of their voices just speaks volume of it all. Lol

solid hinge
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I have literally never spoken to a mentally stable furry

compact oxide
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K

solid hinge
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I've never spoken to an ant before

strange dome
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Ants are cool af.

formal valve
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Holy shit

solid hinge
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they don't like to talk

formal valve
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I just one shot a Valentine with a Stuka 1000

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He looked full health to me

rich ember
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@solid hinge :(

formal valve
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You should

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Their tones say it all

solid hinge
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The stuka bomb is capable of that

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sad hours

strange dome
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the 4000 bomb can 1 shot pz4s .

formal valve
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What the fuck? How did i just get 10 kills with 4 50kg bombs

vestal locust
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Ok.. odd for the tag? Just roll with it

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Magic Robert

formal valve
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Stuka is so fun on Panzerstorm

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I share the same opinions with Jackfrags tho

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I want more of what makes Battlefield special

vestal locust
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The one large bomb variant or the cannon mod one?

formal valve
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I use the large bomb one personally

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But the cannons are good too

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If you can hit them at good angles

frank hatch
formal valve
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Well he’s right

vestal locust
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Gives a nice bang for the large bomb. Personally go with the cannon one if I chose the Stuka for ground attack roll. Yet the BF-109 with rockets are so damn precise and deadly plus I can fend off other planes easy

formal valve
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Battlefield is losing what makes it special

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Combined arms warfare and gameplay

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Something new fans don’t understand

vestal locust
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Large ground, air and (sea at times) battles

hazy wasp
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for as good as the shooting is in V the hit reg is atrocious

formal valve
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If your one of the ones pusshing for more infantry focus, then yeah, you don’t

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Didn’t say you did

reef mountain
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i hope squad conquest will be removed int he next battlefield game because its one of the msot boreing modes ever

formal valve
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It’s just domination but with half the player count

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Don’t know why people like it

reef mountain
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3 squads per team would make ti better but 8vs8 jsut nothign happens

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if dice had any common scence they would stop pushing it at us because alot of the player base dont want it we want rush and grand ops and conquest

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they did have it tho incursions

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and no one wanted it

solid hinge
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squad conquest is significantly shitter than donination

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domination has random spawns

reef mountain
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but dice wont ever listen to the player base

formal valve
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Didn’t someone say the new maps are on Domination as well?

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And TDM?

solid hinge
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we dont have access to domination

formal valve
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At least we will have 32 players on the maps then at max

reef mountain
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tdm is boreing as hell tho if ya want tdm play cod

solid hinge
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or frontlines

formal valve
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I’ve lost hope

reef mountain
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i think dice are about to go bust tbh

formal valve
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I’ll stick around but I’m drifting away

coral fiber
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@formal valve same
And i used to defend bfv

reef mountain
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from what iv seen of the devs and how they feel about dice now i have little hope for the next battlefie;d

formal valve
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Hopefully this CQC shit is just a phase

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And they realize it’s not what we want

coral fiber
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Hopefully

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Don't hate me but i was actually interested in the 5v5 mode

formal valve
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I was too somewhat

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It’s still coming

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We just don’t know when

coral fiber
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I used to play siege so i kinda wanted to know how bf does

reef mountain
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glassdoor?

coral fiber
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Don't knock it till you try it

reef mountain
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da hell is glassdoor?

spiral trail
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glassdoor

formal valve
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There was a Glassdoor review of dice

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That revealed just how shit the company has gone to

reef mountain
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never herd of it

formal valve
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It was depressing to read

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And it explains a lot

reef mountain
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i mean my mait who aculy works there lol

spiral trail
coral fiber
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I saw Jack's and westie's vids and they sound disspointed af

reef mountain
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he jsut gets coffe for people but he can see how bad its getting

spiral trail
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@coral fiber bc they are lmao

coral fiber
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Ik i saw the tweet

spiral trail
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weren't you defending bfv a while ago?

reef mountain
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xbox 360 gameing was good but xbox one is trash

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them days halo 3 halo reach cod world at war battlefield bad company 1 and 2

rich ember
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@steady nymph you should really consider PC, my guy

reef mountain
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they was the days of gold

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only problem i find with pc is more hackers

rich ember
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Yikes.

reef mountain
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and in the long run pc is cheaper

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you buy the item and games but still gotta pay to play them online by buying membership

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jpc you dont need membership

spiral trail
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lmao

reef mountain
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build it with recycled parts

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i built mine with spares and repairs people gave away on the internet

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i can run anything on ultra

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hardly spent a penny

spiral trail
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@steady nymph get a job

reef mountain
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i worked at 14 when i left school lol

formal valve
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I’m 15 and literally have no time to build a PC or anything

spiral trail
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you can get a job under 17 I think

formal valve
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Have no money too

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I’m too busy with school

reef mountain
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you can get a job at 13 lol

midnight nimbus
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> playing on ultra
😦

reef mountain
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well in the uk atleast

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when we was under 13 we went out and washed peoples cars

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we cut back gardens

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we picked apples

solid hinge
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imagine slaving away for scraps

reef mountain
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in the end its worth it you understand more what its liek to grow up

spiral trail
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@steady nymph you under 14 or sumn?

formal valve
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I have school for 8 hours and then football for 3 hours afterward

solid hinge
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to do awful work for little reward?

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just like growing up

formal valve
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I’m not home till like 6:30 my time

reef mountain
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yep

solid hinge
reef mountain
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and it teaches you to save money

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and that you need to graft to get somthing

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nothing is given to you

solid hinge
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thank you mister job creator for your service

reef mountain
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once your 18 the world dnt care

solid hinge
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sounds like your coping over your shit job lel

reef mountain
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thats chores i eman going out in your street and doing it

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doing it for other people you know besides your familya nd elderly people

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the elderly will always put there hand in there pocket when you do these things for them because it helps

icy sluice
spiral trail
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playing as a woman lmao

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LMAO wtf

icy sluice
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Half of my company are women

reef mountain
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whats wrong with playing as a female character?

rich ember
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@steady nymph it really be like that sometimes

compact oxide
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You should never play as any character other than Ingrid

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!!jumbo Ingriddisappoint

ruby trailBOT
icy sluice
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I play as Eva and Margot

spiral trail
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lmao

reef mountain
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btw where the fk is the haor on these characers?

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jhgair

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jhair

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jffs

icy sluice
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dhsdhasj

rich ember
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Behbcheushadjehdhf

reef mountain
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hair i keep hitting j as i type in bfv

compact oxide
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Oh yeah it's you with the sticky J key

solid hinge
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you gotta wash some cars for another J key

reef mountain
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fucking ell its what i get with sticking to j in bfv lol

solid hinge
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it's going into the dirt in a coffin

icy sluice
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lol imagine

reef mountain
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also anyone else acidently hitting v and cahngeing full auto to single fire on pc?

solid hinge
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Oh yeah good idea

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Wash my car as well

spiral trail
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It will die if dice keeps making bad decisions

solid hinge
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I'm irritated that dying doesn't put your gun back on full auto

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ill give you 2 dollars

icy sluice
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On console, we hold Y/Triangle

compact oxide
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@reef mountain I rebound that to a key on the num pad

rich ember
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No because I don’t have hands large enough for that to happen

solid hinge
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There's no reason to spawn in with your suomi on single fire

reef mountain
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i press the mouse and liek oh shit you mother fker

solid hinge
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sad

compact oxide
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Hi sad I'm dad

reef mountain
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just for me ill be saved by the player run servers

coral fiber
icy sluice
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So, it's a fun challenge to have left and right on the d-pad scroll through your inventory while pressing Y and Triangle just changes firing modes

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Also unbinding melee and grenade

reef mountain
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i wanna keep the cheaters out by haveing my own serrver and keeping the geame fun and balanced

compact oxide
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@steady nymph cod mw is calling Kappa

icy sluice
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ew, shit gunplay

reef mountain
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i dont think i could go back to cod after world at war that was the only decent cod game for me

icy sluice
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Who wants to bet how many guns will be behind MTX in MW?

reef mountain
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cod its turning into what battlefield use to be

solid hinge
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maybe they have both overstayed their welcome

icy sluice
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I say at least 3 weapons by the first month

rich ember
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shit gunplay
I’m gonna be honest here, the gunplay doesn’t look any different than battlefield’s.

spiral trail
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@steady nymph 💀 you were just defending bfv a few hours ago, now u looking for a new game

solid hinge
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tfw cod coins are just called coins

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codoins

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doins

rich ember
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Doins

reef mountain
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boins is a slap in the face with a cheesy cock tho

coral fiber
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DOINS

solid hinge
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boins vs doins

icy sluice
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CoD Points

reef mountain
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there should of never been boins

coral fiber
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*COINDS

icy sluice
solid hinge
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points

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coints

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boints

reef mountain
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i would of stuck to buying dlc then live service i think it was that that killed bfv

solid hinge
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titanfall 2 had good dlc

rich ember
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Honestly i hope DUSK/Amid Evil get console ports just so you people have good FPS games to play

solid hinge
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BEST VALUE

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😔

compact oxide
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I would 1000% prefer bfv to have had premium

icy sluice
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"Assassin's Creed is a good franchise"

spiral trail
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@reef mountain true

reef mountain
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live service is there code word to early acsess

solid hinge
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titanfall 2 also had pink guns and titans

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people should learn from this

icy sluice
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Then again Marita and Mercury would be dead by now

rich ember
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I’m poor as well

compact oxide
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Xbox is still the only way to play the halo games

solid hinge
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imagine marita and mercury as paid dlc maps

rich ember
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@compact oxide till MCC comes out

reef mountain
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yer but every pc game is teamign with forigen hackers

solid hinge
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people would be furious

rich ember
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@reef mountain untrue

compact oxide
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Ye, but still waiting for MCC

rich ember
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Mate

spiral trail
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no

rich ember
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No.

icy sluice
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It can work

rich ember
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No.

spiral trail
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no

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quiet

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now

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hush

reef mountain
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halo i think will be good but wont be as we remember it

icy sluice
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what?

prime pine
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Does anyone find tracing AA's harder on this game?

icy sluice
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ok

solid hinge
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are you actually poor or won't your mom buy you video games?

spiral trail
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His mom won't buy him video games

reef mountain
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aa guns are useless in this game

solid hinge
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tracing AA?

prime pine
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If an AA fires at you you would often know where it comes from

solid hinge
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Oh

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Yeah its ridiculously hard

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I cant see the shots

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I just take damage and screenshake

coral fiber
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Relatable

prime pine
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Memorisation is just a nightmare

reef mountain
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yer thats happong with some guns to the bullet traceing is invisible somtimes

coral fiber
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AA is only effective in higher numbers

prime pine
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Screenshake yeah we all love screenshake. Said no one ever.

solid hinge
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I'm also convinced they dont render in until im closer

reef mountain
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jandf no sound from guns that shoot you

solid hinge
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gotta get a good look at those trees

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I've been getting MAULED by AA recently

reef mountain
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janother one of bfv broken elements

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we need atleast a 5% increase on aa guns damage

solid hinge
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it's doing like, triple the damage I do when I use AA

coral fiber
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The Valentine AA packs a punch

solid hinge
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i got 4/5 shot by the valentine aa earlier

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i thought a fuckin tank hit me

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no idea what happened

reef mountain
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the german aa is just fireing spongebobs at you

solid hinge
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Recently everything that's been hitting me in the air has been physically forcing my plane downwards as well

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Which I'm certain is a bug

coral fiber
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Yes it

reef mountain
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i want them to remove fully repairing planes

coral fiber
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Is

reef mountain
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jyer give them more ammo but not a full 100% repair

solid hinge
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Not being able to repair planes would make them useless

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what do you mean keep your temper down, are you seething right now?

reef mountain
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cap it at 60/70%

solid hinge
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they're already honestly not very good

coral fiber
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When bombs suck you in instead of pushing you out

solid hinge
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planes have some real low kill and score counts

coral fiber
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Yeah

spiral trail
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lmao he blocked me

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he's 11 you know

reef mountain
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infatry aa does 0 damage to them tho

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jefven the mmg and lmg fire rounds do 0 damage

coral fiber
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Mostly cuz of lack of spotting so it's hard to find enemies

solid hinge
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11 huh

spiral trail
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dude blocked me cause I said bf1 better than bfv

rich ember
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@steady nymph I mean the man’s drinking alcohol because he wants to. He can do what he wants.

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Nice job pinging yourself

spiral trail
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bfv disappointed everyone

rich ember
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Anyway, he can do what he wants.

hazy wasp
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this invincible tank shit is getting old

compact oxide
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I mean, he's probably just drinking because he wants to,band is making up excuses tbh

coral fiber
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@coral fiber

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Lol

solid hinge
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who needs to make excuses for drinking?

midnight nimbus
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maybe... he's drinking for more than one reason

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or even no reason at all

compact oxide
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I drink to forget BFV FeelsMeowMan

rich ember
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@midnight nimbus all things considered it doesn’t matter.

spiral trail
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imagine complaining abt a grown man drinking

midnight nimbus
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yeah

rich ember
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Who are you to say

midnight nimbus
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drinking because his YouTube career is gonna die with BFV

solid hinge
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I'm downing a bottle right now, and you don't see me making excuses

coral fiber
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Wow ok

rich ember
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@solid hinge you type very well for someone who’s currently drinking.

solid hinge
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i just started

rich ember
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Fair enough then

coral fiber
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Really?...

compact oxide
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I mean I play games better with a standard or two in me

rich ember
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Why should he have to prove anything?

compact oxide
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Lol

rich ember
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Please do, because this is getting silly.

compact oxide
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It stops me from overaiming

spiral trail
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playing while high> playing while drunk

rich ember
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Couldn’t be me.

solid hinge
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dude weed lmao

formal stratus
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Cod modern warfare

vestal locust
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Besides Halo... CoD and new season of R6

formal stratus
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What pass

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Oh

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Yeah

hazy wasp
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there we go

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the entire this weeks ToW done in one night

compact oxide
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R6 is just meh tbh

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ToW haHAA

formal stratus
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But its kinda easy to just get 10 bucks

rich ember
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I heard there’s gonna be a full co-op R6 game coming out in the future, so I’m interested in that.

formal stratus
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Wow really it takes me like 4 days to get that mutch

compact oxide
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I bought R6 twice as I got the cheap edition first

hazy wasp
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finished that game with a KD of 18

compact oxide
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Neither was good

hazy wasp
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R6 seems sterile

spiral trail
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bad company 3 is next bf 100%

hazy wasp
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next Battlefield is Modern thats all we know

solid hinge
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oh go i hope now

rich ember
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They wouldn’t talk to you.

formal stratus
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Just make an account

hazy wasp
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also do you know something, a mess as parts of BFV may be, that Bombbastic Fantastic playlist is the ebst shit the game has

formal stratus
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Yeah true

spiral trail
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Dice doesn't listen to their audience, so good luck with that

hazy wasp
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sure isn't I had a blast tonight playing 'actual' Battlefield

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with huge maps and vehicles

rich ember
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It’s enough bad that I’d rather spend my time elsewhere.

spiral trail
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^

compact oxide
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BF1 is miles better tbh

solid hinge
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why woiuld you want a battlefield made by current dice

formal stratus
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They just need to add Russians Japanese and Americans then its perfect

solid hinge
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would

compact oxide
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It just has a fun factor

spiral trail
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even mod agrees lmao

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feels like a whole chore playing bfv

hazy wasp
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BF1 is better in all but playing the game

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both game handle cosmetics horribly

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I wish they locked certain looks to the classes though

spiral trail
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It is

hazy wasp
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Classes shoudl look distinct on the battlefield

formal stratus
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I would have to differ with the cosmetics mr ardaam

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English

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Pls

rich ember
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I’d try to find a better game.

formal stratus
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Like what

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?

rich ember
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I said a better game.

formal stratus
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that game is too slow paced in my opinion

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Its good

solid hinge
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man overwatgc is pretty bad ngl

formal stratus
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But like

rich ember
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Actually. Whatever. You do that.

formal stratus
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Omfg no duh

midnight nimbus
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play BF4 🙂

hazy wasp
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BF4 is still fairly solid

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hate the lack of real vaulting and mantling

formal stratus
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I haven't done bf4 yet

hazy wasp
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BF4 is a better game than 1

formal stratus
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I only tried 1 and V

hazy wasp
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be warned you will probably be in for an ass kicking if you go back to it

formal stratus
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I got BF1 with all the DLC's for 5 dollars

hazy wasp
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I'm playing some For Honor, CTR and No Man's Sky atm

gray saffron
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ctr?

formal stratus
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Even that 5 dollar red baron skin for a plane

icy sluice
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Crash Team Racing

rich ember
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Nyoom

hazy wasp
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the thinking mans kart racer

formal stratus
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When you say sky I think that your going th o say Skyrim

gray saffron
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aahh, i thought it was maybe crash bandicoot racing, but didn't realize thee t was for team or that it was abbrived to ctr ;D

hazy wasp
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theres also no MMR ranking system online so it really is some wild west shit there

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it might be Crash Bandicoot racing elsewhere

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really cool game for 40 euro

compact oxide
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Tux cart is the thinking man's racer

rich ember
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Mario Kart: Double Dash is the thinking man’s racer

solid hinge
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haha sure

gray saffron
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i used to play the CTR demo on the ps1 so much. good to hear that the remake is nice too 😄

hazy wasp
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CTR is superior to Mario Kart in every way

rich ember
#

Is it on PC?

hazy wasp
#

it is a game from 1999,, that is so good they literally just remade it with prettier looks but identical gameplay

#

Not yet as far as I know

rich ember
#

dammit.

solid hinge
#

hey juus get on the grind and get a real kart

compact oxide
#

Oh god SuperTuxCart is on Google Play gravityeyes

hazy wasp
icy sluice
#

And also Microtransactions

solid hinge
#

oh

icy sluice
#

because no game is sacred

rich ember
#

:/

#

yikes.

solid hinge
#

So, modern setting when?

icy sluice
#

I'm very surprised 90's doom release on Xbox and PS4 doesn't have MTX.

hazy wasp
#

Microtransactions don;t really affect the game, you make wumpa coins pretty fast if you actually finish races

#

you can earn like 9kish for completing the adventure mode

#

(if you go for everything)

rich ember
#

That’s still a big ol yikes

solid hinge
#

there is

#

there it is i mean

#

damn

compact oxide
#

Deus Ex mankind divided had MTX

icy sluice
#

Also, they added new characters that you unlock through Wumpa Coins

#

I think

compact oxide
#

But if you ignore them it's a normal Deus ex game

icy sluice
#

Oh wait no, through uhh... that levelling system

reef mountain
#

jsut joined a game and watches 8 members of a platoon called ss all shooting thu map with lewis guns from there spawns

rich ember
#

@compact oxide tiny yikes.

icy sluice
#

By the way, congratulations on adding in 5 characters that are all very much the same

#

Getting off topic so I'll post it in #general

hazy wasp
#

All new characters cost 1500 wumpa coins, which is a few online races or like 3 online races on the weekend

spiral trail
#

It didn't make as much as the previous battlefields

#

which isn't good

#

but its their fault

#

💀 🤡

#

🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡

autumn nest
spiral trail
#

this kid is 12 max

autumn nest
#

Who?

spiral trail
#

Charlie

autumn nest
#

Lol

#

Idk

#

No he actually had some good points @spiral trail

ivory acorn
#

Why and who did you block? @steady nymph

autumn nest
#

BFV sales were actually pretty large

ivory acorn
#

Why

spiral trail
#

@autumn nest not as big as previous battlefields

ivory acorn
#

Weren’t you being an asshole before though? Lol

spiral trail
#

"Wasn't being very kind" I literally said bfv was shit and it hurt his feelings

autumn nest
#

Oh

#

Well I mean yeah it's in a bad state

solid hinge
#

Don't you love it when you get out of your tank to repair and a guy gets in it says "Thanks" and drives away?

autumn nest
#

I know the feeling...

spiral trail
#

lmao feels bad

#

wrecking in bf1 ps if anyone wanna join

formal valve
#

Anyone else just getting really worn down by all the negativity

autumn nest
#

Performance isn't the problem for me

spiral trail
#

^^

autumn nest
#

Yeah but I wouldn't call it shit

formal valve
#

Like the past few months of negativity have actually impacted my whole experience playing games as a whole

#

I generally no longer have fun gaming

#

The only time I do is playing Minecraft with my schoolmates

#

Other than that

autumn nest
#

The devs just need some time really

#

Yeah, hopefully

stoic breach
#

Its not gonna happen

spiral trail
#

If the Pacific is broken upon release there is no hope for bfv.

stoic breach
#

Too many devs left Dice cause they didnt want to work on BFV

formal valve
#

This game series introduced me to so many amazing people

autumn nest
#

Definitely @formal valve

stoic breach
#

Jesus now I have to find information on my phone

#

Hang on

formal valve
#

And this game tore a lot of friendships apart for me

#

The negativity has just generally affected my experience in gaming

#

It’s just not fun anymore

autumn nest
#

: (

formal valve
#

I’m not saying I’m giving up on it

#

It’s just hard

autumn nest
#

Yikes

#

👀

stoic breach
spiral trail
#

LMao

autumn nest
#

Battlefront 2 redeemed itself, if only they stayed

gray saffron
#

game development has a high turnover rate though.most contracts only last till end of a project and then it's time to go

formal valve
#

It sucks because my life rn is kinda dull as it is

stoic breach
#

Battlefront 2 barely redeemed itself

solid hinge
#

battlefront 2 took two and a half years

stoic breach
#

It went from pay to win to a boring grind

solid hinge
#

it still suffers from hitreg with saber heroes

spiral trail
#

Imagine they all stayed, BFV probably wouldve been a good game

stoic breach
#

Everyone just ignored Battlefront 2's horrible gameplay because it "turned around"

autumn nest
#

Didn't it gain a bunch of new players though?

formal valve
#

Eh I don’t find it’s gameplay too terrible

stoic breach
#

Yeah for some reason

#

Everyone loves Battlefront 2

autumn nest
#

Whilst BFV lost so many...

solid hinge
#

its literally just cause its star wars

stoic breach
#

Yeah thats why

formal valve
#

I don’t think so

solid hinge
#

were it any other game it would be dead

stoic breach
#

Good game design < Star Wars

formal valve
#

Battlefront 2 feels like a complete game

#

At least

autumn nest
#

Yeah

stoic breach
#

Yeah technically it does

solid hinge
stoic breach
#

But whats there needs work

solid hinge
#

4 guns

stoic breach
#

Yeah alot of guns are copypaste as well

#

Also the snipers suck

solid hinge
#

the default weapon for each class is shit

#

so its effectively 3 weapons

stoic breach
#

High recoil > slow spread decrease

#

Yeah

#

They arent

solid hinge
#

bfvs starting guns are actual guns

stoic breach
#

You can be good with a crappy gun

solid hinge
#

the default weapons in battlefront cant equip attachments

#

they're statistically awful

stoic breach
#

Haha yeah

#

Valken needs like faster spread decrease and a boosted rate of fire to be considered a weapon

#

StG 1-5 feels like an smg compared to the ARs

#

KE7 has awful spread

solid hinge
#

the only two snipers worth using in battlefront are the last one and the tapfire one

stoic breach
#

Yeah

#

Even then the NT has a fucked spread decrease

ivory acorn
#

I know. The KE7’s reload sucks

tribal cairn
#

Ehh, I think the sten is decent though

solid hinge
#

doesnt matter when you have disruptor rounds

stoic breach
#

Seriously why the fuck did DICE think slow spread decrease was a good balancing factor for snipers

autumn nest
#

The Sten is okay

solid hinge
#

hit them in the head and then kill them with splash

#

or just two body shots

stoic breach
#

Literally feels like throwing a balloon in the air when you shoot

solid hinge
#

tfw the strongest anti vehicle tool in battlefront is a sniper rifle with splash damage

tribal cairn
#

Well, forced volunteer labor, mainly consisted of young boys and old men, likely war veterans

solid hinge
#

imagine if the boys shot piats

stoic breach
#

Yeah SWBF2 weapon balance is hilariously bad

solid hinge
#

with krag velocity

stoic breach
#

Tfw the starter assault rifle fires at 360rpm automatic

#

I thought it was semi-automatic cause of how slow it was

solid hinge
#

tfw assault has no actual assault rifle

tribal cairn
#

Actually yes

#

STG

stoic breach
#

No this is Battlefront 2

solid hinge
#

it's got a burst fire, an smg and an even slower automatic one

autumn nest
#

It doesn't feel like one though

stoic breach
#

Yeah

solid hinge
#

bfv at least has guns

stoic breach
#

The final rifle is literally a better Valken

solid hinge
#

if nothing else

stoic breach
#

Its fucked

tribal cairn
#

I use heavy and officer majority of the time, so eh

solid hinge
#

officer has the best smg/assault rifle in the game

stoic breach
#

Yep

solid hinge
#

along with an instant 100hp boost to themselves

#

and this is after the nerfs

stoic breach
#

Lol medics

solid hinge
#

I compare them a lot cause they're DICE's most recent games

#

and they've both been fairly shit and completely bug ridden

stoic breach
#

BFV has better weapon balance but really bad class distribution

autumn nest
#

Yeah

stoic breach
#

SMG medic is big lol

tribal cairn
#

BFV Is basically a Communist government in which every anti tank item that is somewhat useful belongs to assault

stoic breach
#

I guess

#

Panzerfaust kinda needs to be buffed though

#

There is physically no reason to use it over the PIAT

solid hinge
#

by every anti tank item you mean piat and dynamite

tribal cairn
#

Accuracy

solid hinge
#

piat is super accurate

stoic breach
#

It can accurately do Boys AT damage to tanks

solid hinge
#

just lower velocity

autumn nest
#

It's better to take down planes with...

tribal cairn
#

Think about it,

#

Assault gets dynamite,

stoic breach
#

When the Panzerfaust is the best plane counter

tribal cairn
#

And launchers

stoic breach
#

🤷

solid hinge
#

panzerfaust has same/lower damage than the piat, longer reload, no splash damage, cant bust fortifications, basically useless vs infantry

tribal cairn
#

Support,

#

Eh, a shitty 90 damage explosive,

#

Medic has smoke launcher,

#

And Recon has a rifle that can do decent enough damage

stoic breach
#

If the goliath tracked mine was in the game as a recon gadget that would be good

tribal cairn
#

That would actually be neat

#

Plus, It could double as a scouting technique

ruby compass
#

That would be cool

tribal cairn
#

Using the Goliath mine to try and scan an area without using your own head

stoic breach
#

If only support had AP mines as well

ruby compass
#

Recon needs something like that

compact oxide
#

reddit

stoic breach
#

Idk its kinda accurate

solid hinge
#

if only support had AP mines

#

everyone has the damn things

tribal cairn
#

I think they should evenly distribute anti tank explosives

stoic breach
#

Yeah its like area denial

#

Supports with only AT mines

compact oxide
#

If only ap mines were insta kill at all ranges

stoic breach
#

And not assault

autumn nest
#

Agreed @tribal cairn

stoic breach
#

And if medic had a frag launcher

#

Or light AT grenades for every class

#

Locking range and AT power to the Tromboncino is a bit much

autumn nest
#

And just make the launchers available for all classes

solid hinge
#

medic deserves an option that isnt bolted onto a carbine

tribal cairn
#

I think the only other class that should get a launcher,

#

Is support

solid hinge
#

i prefer support with mostly close up options

stoic breach
#

Support should get the Fliegerfaust if it ever arrives

solid hinge
#

fits the defensive role

stoic breach
#

Area denial against planes

tribal cairn
#

Could work.

solid hinge
#

mines or limpet charges

#

any faust is gonna be on assault

tribal cairn
#

Personally I'm excited for the Bazooka and Panzershreck

solid hinge
#

I don't know how they're gonna balance them

stoic breach
#

What

solid hinge
#

They're angry they delayed 3 guns and then showed them off

autumn nest
#

Isn't the Panzershreck basically a German Piat

solid hinge
#

Understandable imo

stoic breach
#

Yeah, why would people want weeks and weeks of skins

#

When they have the armoury

solid hinge
#

We were supposed to have the guns by now

stoic breach
#

AND ToW chapter rank

solid hinge
#

if you look at the roadmap august isnt even supposed to have guns

#

and a couple of these guns are gonna be in SEPTEMBEE

stoic breach
#

Yeah cause they got delayed

tribal cairn
#

Also, if we want to discuss any new anti tank idea for support, they could probably give support a Thermite charge, but I don't know if Thermite was even a thing back in ww2

stoic breach
#

Theres like 30 guns just sitting in the freezer

#

Waiting to be released

tribal cairn
#

So it might not work historically

solid hinge
#

its content people have been waiting for for weeks

#

they delayed it for no reason

tribal cairn
#

What gun is that?

stoic breach
#

Also the Panzerbuchse got replaced with an M30 drilling skin mid-chapter

solid hinge
#

c96 carbine

autumn nest
#

It's already inaccurate they might as well @tribal cairn

stoic breach
#

We were supposed to get that weeks ago

#

Then again the Panzerbuchse just looks like a worse Boys AT so idk

#

Looks fun but pointless

tribal cairn
#

Wait, we could have gotten a new AT rifle earlier?

#

Verdammt

stoic breach
#

Yeah

#

Well like

#

Its more of a Kbullet rifle that OHKs

tribal cairn
#

It's supposed to be a longer range alternative

solid hinge
#

the point being we arent supposed to be used to it

tribal cairn
#

Much higher velocity

stoic breach
#

Its meant to be better against tanks

#

It doesnt look like it has a high velocity

tribal cairn
#

They said it was

stoic breach
#

I'll wait and see then

solid hinge
#

It's an AT rifle so it wont have higher velocity than the Lee probably but I imagine it'll be higher velocity than the boys

tribal cairn
#

In comparison, yes.

stoic breach
#

Better tank damage

solid hinge
#

Slower fire rate

stoic breach
#

But it cant aim without the bipod so whats the point

#

Seriously DICE

solid hinge
#

you have to put the bullet in every time you fire

stoic breach
#

Bipod weapons are fucking stupid

solid hinge
#

This is the best long range anti tank weapon we currently have

tribal cairn
#

Exception to MMGs

solid hinge
#

I'm excited just for that

tribal cairn
#

Yes, it is exciting.

stoic breach
#

MMGs should just be able to ADS

#

Tankgewehr was really fun

#

Why not

#

Thats why spread exists

#

To stop them from lazerring across the map

tribal cairn
#

I'm actually doing pretty good with my Rambo reenactment on bfv

haughty pivot
#

how come in battlefield V scope slowdown occurs the second i hit right click? Ine ver other game i've ever played, it's normal sens until you ACTUALLY scope in, its really fucking up my flicks and muscle memory

#

is there any way to change this

stoic breach
#

I would rather get killed by someone I can see because he doesnt feel locked to bipodding

#

Besides, MMGs in BF1 had spread and slower handling

gray saffron
#

isn't it the ads zoom option that does that james?

reef mountain
#

dice sjut give me my fuckign server already !!!!!!!!!!

stoic breach
#

MMGs in BFV are dumb because they all have better hipfire than how they look

tribal cairn
#

You know what would be a fun gadget to use against fortifications? Bangalores.

reef mountain
#

ill fucking pay for it

solid hinge
#

slow ads with massive spread would stop them being very relevant but it'd make you feel not so useless

stoic breach
#

Bangalores as an assault gadget to fuck up tanks would be hilarious as well

tribal cairn
#

Support gadget

abstract patio
#

There's a guy speed hacking in firestorm and he's getting on my nerves, posted it on streams-and-videos

stoic breach
#

Either one I think

haughty pivot
#

oh shit i think i found the option

#

@gray saffron if this works ur a legend

stoic breach
#

Yeah anyways, why does recoil even exist in BFV

#

If they could've just used spread by itself

proven glen
#

anyone want to help me not be bad at bf1 pc

reef mountain
#

oscar you will get demented c@%&nts deneying hes hacking because there dickheads

haughty pivot
#

is there any way to change loadout in the practice range?

reef mountain
#

pay dice £?10

stoic breach
#

No

gray saffron
#

you can swap weapons at the shooting range

haughty pivot
#

how

autumn nest
#

I barely use practice range lol

reef mountain
#

practice range was such a waste of time haha

gray saffron
#

the one where you can check your bullet drop etc. there should be a rack with guns. press E near it for the rifles and another thingy should be for pistols and gadgets

haughty pivot
#

@gray saffron the thing u said worked for the scope. u just made this game 300x better for me, thanks

gray saffron
#

sweet!

violet finch
#

Depends on how they do it

#

Mabey but I would like to see a more modern one

little raptor
#

Anymore info come out of gamescom?

autumn nest
#

I was really hoping for a Vietnam title originally...

violet finch
#

No not that I know of I'm really disappointed but glad at the same time

stoic breach
#

Imagine BF Vietnam with attrition

#

Big lol

little raptor
#

So just the two maps and the upcoming 3 guns so far

violet finch
#

In the Pacific I would love to see the b-29 my grandfather flew one and I would do anything to do anything on a b-29

little raptor
#

Man, chapter 4 is not gonna be fondly remembered

autumn nest
#

@little raptor Yup that's about it

stoic breach
#

Neither is chapter 5

#

Pacific will actually probably just kill the game

autumn nest
#

Hopefully not

little raptor
#

Not at all, they’re finally gonna have a new faction

violet finch
#

Honestly I hope not they HAVE to get there stuff right in the Pacific

little raptor
#

And operation metro

autumn nest
#

People are already disappointed before it's release

stoic breach
#

That is generous

autumn nest
#

It's on Origin @solid hinge

little raptor
#

@solid hinge can only buy battlefield games in origin

stoic breach
#

More like 40%

autumn nest
#

If only Battlefield was on Steam...

violet finch
#

I mean I would say 45% for the fact that there will be bugs

stoic breach
#

Idk I guess clans would like it

little raptor
#

600%

gray saffron
#

wow acog, you can't buy the latest ea games on steam since like bf3 or so

little raptor
#

6699%

autumn nest
#

Nope

stoic breach
violet finch
#

Sounds reasonable

stoic breach
#

I can just imagine the amount of MMG campers in bushes and shit

little raptor
#

I think they’re gonna add the ruskies after that and then they’ll call it quits on BFV

stoic breach
#

Visibility will kill the Pacific as well

violet finch
#

Can't wait to get my m1919

stoic breach
#

M1919 is gonna be a better MG34

gray saffron
#

tbh, bfv is also on ea acces for 5 bucks. so it's practically free to play. player pop wouldnt really die soonish

autumn nest
#

Yeah considering it's already bad enough @stoic breach

little raptor
#

BF1 had like, 22 million people buy it, and that’s why it had so many dlc maps

stoic breach
#

M1919 being bipod-only will just kill it

formal valve
#

Well fucking FINALLY

little raptor
#

From what I’m getting from the dev twitter posts, they’re going for quality over quantity for BFV

violet finch
#

Now I can't confirm this but I have seen data miners find TEXTURED models of the M2 flame thrower and I'm so hyped if it's a thing

solid hinge
#

quality

formal valve
#

I finally got the MK3A1 Jackhammer in BF3

solid hinge
autumn nest
#

You sure about that? @little raptor

formal valve
#

The last DLC weapon I needed

gray saffron
#

lefoten and provence + mermaid skins are true quality :3

formal valve
#

I now own all guns in BF3

little raptor
#

I mean ofc Reddit disagrees

gray saffron
#

congratz!

formal valve
#

I feel accomplished

#

Pretty good lol

autumn nest
#

Nice man

little raptor
#

Reddit’s never had a single point where the devs weren’t being accused of inauthenticity or whatever

formal valve
#

Should probably go get some sleep

violet finch
#

:)

autumn nest
#

It's full of haters yeah @little raptor

gray saffron
#

always end on a high note. gievs better sleep ;D

stoic breach
#

Reddit is also full of people who complain but dont have any worthwhile feedback to give

#

Remember when everyone thought the Burton LMR was OP

violet finch
#

^

autumn nest
#

That's why I don't use it lol

little raptor
#

My point is that the dev team probably isn’t going for bucket loads of content like BF1 did

autumn nest
#

^

solid hinge
#

saw people on there slagging the SLRs off and praising the bolts the other day

little raptor
#

Which makes me sad since BFV is mechanically the best BF

violet finch
#

^

solid hinge
#

made me go ouugh

autumn nest
#

But at least people enjoyed the BF1 DLC @little raptor

formal valve
#

Which is a better sidearm choice, G17 or 1911?

#

I like both

solid hinge
#

g17?

stoic breach
#

BF1 had better gameplay

autumn nest
#

1911 is always a reliable one

little raptor
#

I mean yeah they did. I don’t think the quality of the maps is gonna change much People’s opinions

violet finch
#

1911

formal valve
#

I mean the M1911 is pretty good

solid hinge
#

WW1 glock

formal valve
#

But the G17 has more ammo

#

And a laser sight

little raptor
#

If they loved BF1s maps, standards aren’t an issue lol

violet finch
#

But murica

formal valve
#

Time to hop on Noshar and try this baby out

little raptor
#

I feel like DICE Sweden shoulda recognized that and went ham on just map after map

stoic breach
#

Nah

#

Not without good core gameplay

autumn nest
#

^

little raptor
#

But alas, they’ve made their decision to focus on the mechanical gameplay

stoic breach
#

They barely did that

little raptor
#

Which is good, it’s just never going to be seen by the Reddit

stoic breach
#

Theres so much wrong with the mechanical gameplay of BFV

autumn nest
#

Because the community wants the classic WW2 maps like D-Day and Stalingrad

little raptor
#

And as of such, BFV will never really get the chance to redefine battlefield

stoic breach
#

If BFV was a more improved BF1 it would genuinely be a massive sell

autumn nest
#

Definitely

little raptor
#

I think they should make a huge reworked BF1/BFV crossover

#

It’s endless content

autumn nest
#

Mechanics from BF1 and 4 combined would've been fine

violet finch
#

Wait idea !!! What if they addaded characters from the campaign to multiplayer that people could buy and have different tankers pilots???

formal valve
#

God I wish we could get another game like BF3

autumn nest
#

^

formal valve
#

I wish I was around in its prime

#

I’d like a console remaster for it

autumn nest
#

BF3 had such a great campaign...

formal valve
#

If thatd ever happen

#

Yeah but the ending was kinda lacking

ivory acorn
#

Explosives

formal valve
#

It just ended pretty abruptly and not much else got shown after that final mission

ivory acorn
#

Why do they suck

autumn nest
#

BF3 and BF4 are Battlefield games in their prime...

#

BF1 was good

#

Hardline was underrated

#

And V is just meh...

#

Yes?

formal valve
#

Woah this MK3 has a slow reload

stoic breach
#

Even Battlefield V took a feature from Hardline because it was so good

formal valve
#

^

#

BF4 took several

stoic breach
#

Nah

autumn nest
#

Hmm

stoic breach
#

BFH is a considered underrated because people have realised that it doesnt have to have giant maps and shit to be a good game

#

It should've just been a spin-off called Hardline

#

Without the Battlefield title

autumn nest
#

Yeah

ivory acorn
#

Does BFH have tanks?

formal valve
#

In the SP

#

For like 5 minutes

ivory acorn
#

I never played it, but I thought the cop setting was really cool

formal valve
#

There was supposed to be a fucking A10

stoic breach
#

BFV isnt gonna be considered underrated because of the gameplay flaws

formal valve
#

But never got put in

ivory acorn
#

Too bad from what I heard, it turned out to just be another battlefield game instead of something related to you know: cops and robbers

autumn nest
#

Imagine if Vicseral wasn't shutdown...
We could've had a Hardline 2

ivory acorn
#

BF5’s soundtrack is meh

autumn nest
#

Dead Space 4 as well

ivory acorn
#

DS2 was the best

#

I liked dead space 3, but I didn’t like the whole crafting system

#

Like just let me pick a weapon and use it. I don’t wanna customize it and all that. If I wanted to customize a gun, i wouldve just played cod lol

stoic breach
#

Honestly the gigantic Battlefield-esque stuff in MW2019 has kinda ruined my excitement for it

#

That and no minimap

ivory acorn
#

I’m keeping my eyes on MW

#

As cool as it looks, it’s cod

#

Anything can happen at this point

gray saffron
#

why is it always some guy on the side that's killing me and never the dudes fighting me? 😦

#

there is a dino footprint in devastation

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it's uhh, near the mall. if you look at the vista behind it with lots of emptiness and destruction you should see the footprint. it's easier to view from top though i believe

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yeah

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it's outside the playing area

ivory acorn
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Fort Du Vox Easter egg made no sense

gray saffron
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i don't know if it's viewable from soldier view xd

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as in first person, walking around

ivory acorn
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Seeing a painting of a horse even though screams were heard behind the door was so underwhelming

gray saffron
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i think it's visible from the map overview

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ah seems someone found it in spectator view xD

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so if you join deva on specator mode, you should be able to find it

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so far no

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the content creators did get to play, but weren't allowed to film it or something

solid hinge
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hopefully

stoic breach
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Is the Breda 4 or 5 round burst?

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Cause that could actually like tap people instantly in close range

ivory acorn
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5 round burst I think

compact oxide
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Lol

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Lot of certainty here

ivory acorn
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Is it 4? I thought it was 5

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It’s 4

stoic breach
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Even 4 rounds is enough to destroy someone in a 1v1

solid hinge
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if it has the same damage model as the rest it'll be a one burst kill under 10m

ionic musk
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server lost session. Right when I was about to call in a JB-2 Rocket. -.-

feral grotto
lunar bone
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Anyone knows about propeller bug?

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It hurts my eyes

gray saffron
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the wjat

spiral trail
lunar bone
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Fighter planes propeller, you can see through clear sometime and sometime you can’t see clear

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The propeller spinning speed slow and sometime fast while spawing

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Spawning*

slate carbon
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some dude just blew up my full health tank with one shot from a fucking semi rifle???

solid hinge
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its called bf5

slate carbon
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like how though

solid hinge
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the game that totally turned wwII into sjw-pleasing things

slate carbon
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i dont even understand

solid hinge
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with a developer team focusing on microtransactions

gray saffron
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probably placed dynamite

solid hinge
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oh and btw the propeller bug?

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thats a netcode issue

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I've never had it on a local server multiplayer

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just like european or servers with ping higher than 110

slate carbon
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it said he killed us with a rifle though, if he shot dynamite it wouldve said dynamite killed us

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it least it should anyway

solid hinge
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tasty

gray saffron
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well, i saw people shoot dynamite/mines with a liberator and the kills they made with it would be liberator kills

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if he detonated the dyna it would have been a dyna kill, if he shot the dyna, a rifle kill

slate carbon
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i messaged the guy who killed us and he said he put 2 mines behind us and set them off with a piat

prime pine
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Hit the thousand kill mark for the mark fb

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Hurray

gray saffron
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congratz on ze milestone, bodie ^^

slate carbon
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arras is a fucking terrible map

little raptor
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this new AT rifle

slate carbon
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if you like arras, you are an idiot

little raptor
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AIR ASS

slate carbon
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someone told me arras is the top rated map

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fucking how

gray saffron
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hi there dr phil, i'm an idiot 😄

slate carbon
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why do you like arras????

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its terrible

gray saffron
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it's a fun map as medic with an tommy gun

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lots of alleys and ways to flank

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plus it looks gorgeous

slate carbon
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it looks good but its poo poo

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maybe on conquest its better but its shit on rush and breakthrough

gray saffron
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ah

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yeah i was thinking of ze conquest version

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i'm not a fan of breakthrough overall.

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on breakthrough it aint that fun yeah. too open

stoic breach
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@prime pine are you playing right now

solid hinge
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@slate carbon he used an AT mine, shot the mine after placing it under your tank

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thats why it registers the kill as by that rifle

tribal wraith
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Say the frontline modes look like link modes from bf4

stoic breach
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Thats how people get tank kills in BF1 with Kolibri

midnight nimbus
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got screwed out of a potential 100 kill MAA game 😔

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sad

stoic breach
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Rip

midnight nimbus
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was spawn trapping the enemy helis on Zavod

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got stuck in a crater so I couldn't spawn trap the infy too

stoic breach
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My friends were playing against a clan in BF4 and the enemy team wanted to kick them cause they were using MAA and the team couldnt get kills

slate carbon
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and theres absolutely no where to repair my tank in the 2nd sector

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how fun

solid hinge
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hope that wasn't on my server

midnight nimbus
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30mm + Zuni dumping on enemy LAVs and tanks

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only really works if you get the jump on them

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but timing Zuni switches and 30mm with the reloads and overheats in CQB does so much damage