battlefield-legacy-titles

[reef mountain]

still waiting for the new grand ops with the greek maps

[solid hinge]

^

[stoic breach]

The best part about BF1 Ops was the momentum, it stopped players from getting bored

[reef mountain]

as a objective nut i enoy grand ops great for combat and can relly change the tide of the fight when you outflank them

[main grove]

Most of the best devs left after BF1

[stoic breach]

Like conquest assault or not, if players start leave during day 2 of Hamada than thats a big problem

Yeah

Rip Dice

[main grove]

They took their bonus and retired

[stoic breach]

Losing their best devs

[solid hinge]

@main grove why did they leave actually?

[stoic breach]

Bad management

The company sucking too much

Also you cant flank in conquest @reef mountain

[main grove]

Why don’t they just hire some much more talented people and also fix their schedule

[stoic breach]

"Hur hur run behind the enemy after they finish capping and leave" isnt flanking, its sloppy seconds

[reef mountain]

you can when they got a cap point thats in a domminationg area

domminating

jalso anyone else noticed all the churches in the game is the exsact same church?

no diffrence at all

[solid hinge]

Yup

[stoic breach]

Why would they need to make new church assets?

[gray saffron]

yeah, frags even mentioned that in his vid

[solid hinge]

Except the church in devastation

That one is too big

[main grove]

BF1 did that quite a bit to be fair

[stoic breach]

Thats actually wasting dev time if they make new assets for churches

[solid hinge]

yeah

who needs effort in their games

just slap em in there

[reef mountain]

copy and paste it will be fine 😉

[main grove]

In a multiplayer non narrative story it’s completely understandable

[coarse thunder]

As long as the new churches are destructable

[main grove]

Not being sarcastic it is a waste of dev time

[stoic breach]

Like, Al Sundan uses house assets from the BF1 desert maps

Thats actually genius

[steady reef]

hey anybody play on xbox one

[reef mountain]

tbh tho there not even trying to develop bfv it seems its sjut copy paste fk it that will do even tho its only quater of wheat we was sopose to do

[gray saffron]

less genius is not fixing the windows to bfv standards, so you can't vault through them xD

[coarse thunder]

#lfg-xbox

[stoic breach]

Copypasting buildings isnt a dumb thing to do

[steady reef]

anybody up for a game of firestorm?

on xbox

[stoic breach]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[reef mountain]

thats 1 game mode i cant play is firestorm

[main grove]

They just need to shut everything the fuck off for a year and fix everything

All servers gone for a year

[stoic breach]

They should've just like

[main grove]

And fix it

[stoic breach]

Cancelled the game

[main grove]

And then market it well

[stoic breach]

And given BF1 an extra year of support

[solid hinge]

what if they just made a good game?

[main grove]

2 years is not enough

[reef mountain]

i do enjoy playing bfv but they need to give us somthing that aculy works

[solid hinge]

3 years is enough

[main grove]

Very few people can make a game of BF scale in 2 years and do it well

[stoic breach]

3 years of Dev time on BF1 with 2 years of support on their most successful game?

Wew

[steady reef]

they were good at making modern battlefields hints why i just re downloaded battlefield 4

[stoic breach]

Not even Dice right now could do it

Since BFV was made in 2 years but without the talent

[main grove]

But investors need the money NOW

[reef mountain]

there working too much on the visuals too bf1 graphics and visuals i feel was the best

[stoic breach]

BFV has practically the same graphics

[reef mountain]

darfk gritty real ewmotion in the maps

no bfv has cartonn graphics

jcartoon

[stoic breach]

Cartoon graphics

[main grove]

I hate this Anti BFV circlejerk but I still wonder what is actually happening at DICE

[reef mountain]

bf1 feels more realistic

[main grove]

I feel bad for them

[coarse thunder]

Debatable

On the graphics question

[main grove]

BF1 had weird chunky soldiers

[gray saffron]

if they're dropping 5v5 they should have remade them to atleast conquest standards. make them marita-like maps for all i care. just giev more conquest maps 😦

[stoic breach]

Graphics doesnt equal art style

BF1 has a better artstyle than BFV

While having pretty much the same graphics

[reef mountain]

yer but i mean the map and the sand box it feels gritty and dank how the war should feel

[steady reef]

anbody able for a squad

on xbox

[solid hinge]

@main grove I still wonder why they focus too much on small gamemodes and not the big ones

[reef mountain]

on bfv evcerything is the wizard of oz

[stoic breach]

BF1 isnt even accurate to how WW1 combat was

But the fact that it felt real was a good thing

Job well done there

[solid hinge]

It surprised me when I heard that cod is doing a 32v32 gamemode

ww1 equipment was 99% bolt action rifles

^

[reef mountain]

well tbh hope cod is the kick in the arse dice needs to sort its shit out

[stoic breach]

I thought it was 20v20

[old sail]

nothing about 5v5 ☹

[stoic breach]

If CoD does 32v32 then I'm not buying it

Fuck that

[reef mountain]

looking forward to the 50vs 50 for cod i aint enjoyed cod scince world at war

[solid hinge]

Ground war is 32v32 and is later gonna become 100+

[stoic breach]

100 player CoD sounds really shit

[coral fiber]

64v64 possibly

[coarse thunder]

If cod (insert) I'm not buying it. I don't think the games grip me anymore

[stoic breach]

I'm legitimately only interested in 2v2

[reef mountain]

dident world at war have a 50vsd 50 groundwar with tanks?

[solid hinge]

@reef mountain the 100 gamemode is 32v32 now. They reduced it and gonna make it bigger later on

Holy shit its true

Until it really hits the 100

imagine buying cod games after black ops 1

Jack, Westie and Flack all sound depressed as fuck in their videos

[stoic breach]

Lol

Rip them

[coral fiber]

It's just new maps...

[solid hinge]

what did you people expect?

[reef mountain]

conquest

[coral fiber]

I was hoping some news about 5v5

[stoic breach]

Didnt expect anything tbh

[solid hinge]

Battlefield from Battlefield 5

I didnt get this game to play cod

[reef mountain]

what ever happend to incursions i enjoued that

[coral fiber]

Died

[stoic breach]

Well it was basically a spinoff

[reef mountain]

me and my squad thrashed people on that

was a great concept could of aculy help comps with it

do you think that this new 5vs 5 is there re attempt at incursions?

[old sail]

I expect some news about RSP, a release date for sure

[stoic breach]

Well it used a wonky perk system that wasnt very congruent with the main game

Same with this upcoming 5v5 if it ever comes out

[lilac umbra]

so how many new guns will be added in next update

[solid hinge]

Oh I missed it

literally who asked for a 5v5 mode

What was the news

just play siege

[reef mountain]

@lilac umbra 3 guns

[lilac umbra]

[reef mountain]

aula new maps are squad conquest only and 3 guns and they are shot

[lilac umbra]

3 new guns thats so awesome

[reef mountain]

shit

squad conquest is boreing tdm

[buoyant epoch]

Come play Battlefield 4.

[lilac umbra]

i might download bf4 again

[reef mountain]

i do have bf4 but find the bullet damage is a bit off

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge 3 new weapons (PanzerBusche 39, a Assault Burst rifle, and something else), Lofoten Islands and Provence and a new skin.

[lilac umbra]

but seriously just 3 new guns

[stoic breach]

Breda PG

[reef mountain]

and 32 new maps that are on boreing squad conquest

[buoyant epoch]

At least BF4 feels like war. Jets, tanks, choppers, etc.

[lilac umbra]

are those maps only for smaller gamemodes

[solid hinge]

Basically the stuff we are getting in this chapter

[stoic breach]

Trench Carbine is just P08 with 41 rounds

[reef mountain]

sorry 2 new maps lol

[crisp stone]

jack straight up says the 2 new maps dont inspire him lul

[lilac umbra]

they taking the piss

[rich ember]

Jack is removed from game changers

[reef mountain]

battlefeilds fan boy has jumped from thbe train

[zenith pendant]

@rich ember what, where did you get that from

[stoic breach]

Well he didnt really enjoy BFV from the start

[solid hinge]

so the guns that were supposed to release weeks ago

[rich ember]

@zenith pendant it’s a joke my guy

[buoyant epoch]

Never played a single COD game but it seems waaaaaaaay more interesting than BF5.

[zenith pendant]

oh

[solid hinge]

they seriously showed off the guns they delayed for no reason

[stoic breach]

Actually wait

Did Jack have gameplay of the Breda?

[gray saffron]

guns are prolly still tied to weekly non?

yeah

he did

[stoic breach]

O man

I need to see this

[solid hinge]

two new maps

no 5v5

theres only one fucking small mode in the game

so that means squad conquest only

or tdm

No 5v5?

So it’s not coming this month?

[rich ember]

Control put out a new trailer.

[stoic breach]

Tdm is pretty fun

[gray saffron]

the content creators were playing them on sq conquest only. if they asked about 5v5 dice said they weren't going to talk about that today

[stoic breach]

Holy shit

[solid hinge]

Tdm is too easy

[stoic breach]

Breda looks fun as fuck

[lilac umbra]

should focus on new bf than making 3 guns every 10year

[stoic breach]

Whoops lol

[rich ember]

Yes

That’s a statement

[crisp stone]

fuck as fuck o.0

[reef mountain]

seems they stopped listening the the players once again

[icy sluice]

Nice

[crisp stone]

still no reason for me to play again by the sounds of it

raptor is it paid

[gray saffron]

wut, how'd you get that @icy sluice

[rich ember]

So, what other games are you guys playing

[icy sluice]

Not my picture

[gray saffron]

sims 4 lol

[icy sluice]

From the event

[rich ember]

@gray saffron are you killing the sims

[icy sluice]

Also, hair with nothing covering the face

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice dannyonpc huh? 😂

[gray saffron]

of course 😄 @rich ember

[crisp stone]

still not a ww2 game lul

[icy sluice]

Danny isn't at the event

[rich ember]

@gray saffron of course

[coral fiber]

Just add conquest to lofoten and provence then it'll be fun

[gray saffron]

how're getting these pics, raptor?

[solid hinge]

S M A L L

M A P

[coral fiber]

No

[rich ember]

Domination exists.

[gray saffron]

you mean existed

[stoic breach]

Domination on Marita is the best way to play it

[icy sluice]

People recording and livestreaming at gamescom @gray saffron

[coral fiber]

Small map with conquest = fun

[rich ember]

It still exists

[solid hinge]

Did they seriously delete the 5v5 gamemode?

[rich ember]

They’re not talking about it

[stoic breach]

They're probably saving it for later

Like next year

[cedar cove]

That and @icy sluice is an actual dinosaur

[solid hinge]

5 bucks says it's not finished yet

[icy sluice]

Exactly

[coral fiber]

Probably

[rich ember]

We been knew. @cedar cove

[icy sluice]

I am definitely going to wear Winterkrieg on Hamada

Look at how much that guy is wearing

[gray saffron]

haha

[solid hinge]

I'd love to play donination on marita

Was the most fun game mode on it

but they kind of uuuuhhhhhh removed it

How was frontlines on Marita?

[rich ember]

Well they can put it back.

[solid hinge]

awful

Lol

[gray saffron]

reminded me of the fjell frontlines map. i hated the fjell frontlines map 😦

[coral fiber]

It was alright

[solid hinge]

Fjell Frontlines?

I’ve never played that before 🤣

[rich ember]

Could replace Squad Conquest with Domination.

I don’t think anyone would miss it.

[solid hinge]

fjell frontlines is awful

[coral fiber]

If this patch disappoints me more i guess I'm kinda done with bfv until the Pacific really

[solid hinge]

domination is a million times better than squad conquest

5 bucks says this patch barely even fixes anything as well

[coral fiber]

My patience for this game to be any better has been depleted

[solid hinge]

They'll finish off some old bug fixes and fix the other issues that 4.0 introduced

[rich ember]

Queue everyone who likes Squad Conquest to come out of the woodworks to say that it’s good actually

[solid hinge]

I dont have any patience left

They dont have any content

The game is hopeless

This is not Ww2 maps, this is copy/paste shit from Firestorm OmG

FREE™ DLC™

wheres that dev who said people wont complain about maps at the end of 2019

Enjoy™

[icy sluice]

I think that was Drunkkz3?

or Braddock

[rich ember]

Where are they. Can they be in here.

[coral fiber]

Drunk

[icy sluice]

It was one of them

[solid hinge]

I'd be interested to know if they meant that was because no one is going to be playing to complain

[stoic breach]

It was probably Niklas Astrad

Oh yeah

[solid hinge]

EA Game Changers will be playing #battlefield-legacy-titlesV Operation Underground tomorrow at #Gamescom, although they will not be allowed to record / share any gameplay footage😔

Rip

[rich ember]

Actually are the admins who were at gamescom still there

[stoic breach]

@solid hinge DICE adding flag spawning to Capital Supremacy in Battlefront 2

[rich ember]

Could they ask them

[stoic breach]

You know what that means

[ivory acorn]

I thought today was the Game Changers event

Or that today was BF5 news

[coral fiber]

Just making things worse ya know
https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1164190593590943744?s=09

[stoic breach]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1164190593590943744?s=09

Battlefield Bulletin #IFGranCanaria 🔥💦👨‍🚒 (@BFBulletin)

EA Game Changers will be playing #BattlefieldV Operation Underground tomorrow at #Gamescom, although they will not be allowed to record / share any gameplay footage😔

Twitter

[gray saffron]

they all posted new videos on the new maps, @ivory acorn . we're talking about that atm ;D

[rich ember]

So

[stoic breach]

I copied and pasted your message

[rich ember]

What’s the point of them being there.

[stoic breach]

I couldn't be bothered clicking the link on my phone

[coral fiber]

Thx

[ivory acorn]

Did they talk about anything other than new mapsv

?*

[coral fiber]

Ahh ok lol somewhat relatable

[gray saffron]

nope

[rich ember]

If they’re gonna only invite Game Changers anyway

Then why fucking be at gamescom

[stoic breach]

Operation MMG

[solid hinge]

people flew to germany for this

hahahahaha

[stoic breach]

I hope people just abuse dumb shit and ruin the map

[icy sluice]

Operation Ratatatatatatatatatatatat

[ivory acorn]

All I know is Westie shilling it up again with BF5

[rich ember]

You could’ve just done this shit in your own office

[icy sluice]

Liking content = shill lol

[rich ember]

And nothings significant would’ve changed

[stoic breach]

Also he makes money so uhh

🤷

[lilac umbra]

i was hyped but now just sad

[stoic breach]

What else is he gonna do

[zenith pendant]

What else did you expect really

If we knew all along that Lofoten and Provence is developed for 5v5

[coral fiber]

When op underground is more ready than al soondone

[zenith pendant]

Did you expect them to just shove 64 players into it when it's clearly developed for 10 ?

Although I'll be honest, they look like they could fit 32 and 24 player gamemodes

[ivory acorn]

I can’t believe they’re making smaller maps for that 5v5 game mode

Lofoten and Provence are probably gonna be the only new maps for that mode

[zenith pendant]

lofoten with 32 is going to be pretty packed

but Provence with 32 is going to be Marita EF zone

[solid hinge]

battlefront two is actually getting content

i cant believe this

[zenith pendant]

what are they getting

a new primary ?

[coral fiber]

Chaotic fun right there

[stoic breach]

Spawntrap Supremacy lol

[zenith pendant]

after several years ?

[solid hinge]

they have a fuckin roadmap

[zenith pendant]

What they getting

[coral fiber]

Link?

[solid hinge]

that like, isnt full of shit

[coral fiber]

Oh

[ivory acorn]

BF5 needs a dynamic game mode with bots

[zenith pendant]

If it ain't new weapons

[solid hinge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/csye82/community_transmission_a_look_ahead_at_whats/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[merry horizon]

@ivory acorn You're genius

[stoic breach]

Battlefield V would've been better off with 20v20 and 24 AI

[solid hinge]

people spent money on this game

still no new weapons or star cards

for some reason

[zenith pendant]

Well then

[stoic breach]

Doesnt really matter that Battlefront 2 is getting content when the core game is still fucked

[zenith pendant]

It's the same Battlefront 2 then

[merry horizon]

We need flamethrower on the game too

[zenith pendant]

No new primary since launch, lol

[stoic breach]

Flag spawning with Aerial lol

[rich ember]

@solid hinge on what, BFV?

[stoic breach]

I can imagine it

[solid hinge]

yeah

[ivory acorn]

A mode that makes it feel like actual war, like defending a convoy and then immediately destroying several artillery guns to defend said convoy

[rich ember]

You didn’t?

[solid hinge]

no

[rich ember]

Fair enough

[stoic breach]

I just really want to ruin people's fun on Capital Supremacy when the update comes out

[solid hinge]

At least they're getting something

[ivory acorn]

I’m tired of playing variations of Conquest and Breakthrough

[solid hinge]

We're getting maps for small modes after they removed two of the small modes from the game

Big brain move there

[zenith pendant]

Don't know why not just add a limited-time tweaked version

like a seperate playlist

[rich ember]

Why make it time limited

[zenith pendant]

and temporarily disable the old one

[ivory acorn]

Because Dice is pretty incompetent

[rich ember]

When they can just put it back

[solid hinge]

not enough players

[zenith pendant]

Appereantly they are tweaking it

[ivory acorn]

I can’t believe 10 months in, and we only got 3 maps, 2 of which suck

[solid hinge]

allegedly

[stoic breach]

Rip BFV

Yeah of course theres not enough players

Majority of people dont have fun playing it

[merry horizon]

What about "Last man standing" Mode

[stoic breach]

BR huh

[solid hinge]

as much as I shit on battlefront 2, they actually had a controversy and stuff to delay content

[stoic breach]

[zenith pendant]

It's too inconsistent to get

[solid hinge]

bfv is just shit

[ivory acorn]

Agreed

[merry horizon]

Yeah

[zenith pendant]

Gameplay is awesome

[stoic breach]

Yeah now Battlefront 2 just has a pathetic levelling system and shit gameplay

[zenith pendant]

I ain't going back to shitty 3D spotting

[solid hinge]

the devs keep asking people to wait and see what happens but there isnt anything to see

[zenith pendant]

And no amount of maps is going to change it

[ivory acorn]

Bf5 is an F U to all those people who wanted a good world war 2 game

[stoic breach]

Whats shitty about wanting to kill people

[ivory acorn]

The people that have been asking for one since forever

[solid hinge]

@merry horizon ok I laughed at your name but you should probably change that

[ivory acorn]

And now that we finally got it, they threw it down the drain

[merry horizon]

Aight

[solid hinge]

imagine fucking up a ww2 game

[stoic breach]

BFV wasnt even good to begin with

[rich ember]

So, what are you guys gonna do now.

[solid hinge]

drink

[stoic breach]

Imagine being DICE and designing a game for a smaller minority of players

[ivory acorn]

I might play Remnant: From the Ashes

[zenith pendant]

idk, keep playing I guess

I like the core gameplay loop too much

[ivory acorn]

Wym? Tons of people wanted a ww2 game

[stoic breach]

I'm currently working on stuff

Nobody wanted attrition

[zenith pendant]

what attrition

[ivory acorn]

Oh well yeah they added stuff no one wanted

[zenith pendant]

It's gone, and the only thing left of it is one medpack

[stoic breach]

Then again attrition gave us the camping Archer

Attrition is still definitely in the game

[solid hinge]

oh yeah, calling it right now

next battlefield is gonna be even worse

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[zenith pendant]

What attrition

[stoic breach]

They're probably gonna keep attrition

[gray saffron]

i like attrition, the health regen in bf1 made me realize i don't like this sitting in the corner for it to heal mechanic

[zenith pendant]

I don't know what you mean by attrition, I don't feel it

except for health

Ammo is plentiful

[stoic breach]

I also dont like sitting in a corner and not healing

[dense bone]

you heal, just not high

[solid hinge]

it's gonna be another zombie FREE DLC™ game that launched without any content

[stoic breach]

Yes you heal enough to survive a single extra bullet

[solid hinge]

that

[stoic breach]

Hurray

[solid hinge]

s the future

[dense bone]

bfv launched with 1 less map than bf1...

[solid hinge]

The future of gideo vames

[stoic breach]

At least BF1 had more good base maps

Amiens, Ballroom Blitz

St Quentin's Scar

[dense bone]

i didnt play bf1 at base, so i really have no idea on quality vs quality

[gray saffron]

gameplay and core stuff is fine of bfv. it's the content and support that's severely lacking.

[zenith pendant]

aaaaaaaaaand after french nothing memorable gameplay-wise for maps

[stoic breach]

Suez on Breakthrough and TDM but not conquest

[dense bone]

but people calling lack of content are pretty damn wrong

[stoic breach]

Content isnt even the biggest issue in BFV

[solid hinge]

I can't believe people want a BC3 made by the current people at working at Dice

[stoic breach]

Like what about performance

[dense bone]

unless you are expecting the amount of content for free compared to paid dlc

[zenith pendant]

BF1 had severe lack of guns

on launch it was attrocious

[stoic breach]

But at least you spawned with all of your ammo

[solid hinge]

paid DLC is honestly better than """"""""free""""""""

[dense bone]

depends who you ask

[stoic breach]

Paid weapons with free maps

[solid hinge]

at least they get motivated to do work on their shit if they get paid

[dense bone]

i never paid for dlc for bf, so being in the same boat as other players is nice

[solid hinge]

all "free" dlc's are just trash

here you go bro, here's 2 weapons

[stoic breach]

Titanfall 2's was pretty good

[dense bone]

thats an overdramatic response

[solid hinge]

but yeah, look at the DLC is in battlefield, it's actually stuff in there

1

[dense bone]

it was paid...

[short pecan]

ideally free dlc should motivate more players to buy the base game and maybe pay for some cosmetics in the long run

[solid hinge]

yeah

[dense bone]

of course theres more

[stoic breach]

BF1 should've had an extra year of support

[solid hinge]

yeah that's what I'm saying

"free" dlc is shit

[vast sinew]

When does the dlc come out?

[dense bone]

thats not what im saying, and your comment is false

[zenith pendant]

I think what Nyphon tries to say is

[dense bone]

but your just wanting to be dramatic

[zenith pendant]

If you only pay for the base game, you get fucked in the long run

and are forced to spend an extra 60 bucks for Premium in order to get content

[stoic breach]

Yeah the old premium model having to pay for maps is dumb

But paying for weapons is fine

[dense bone]

im saying most people paid 30 bucks for this game, compared to 30-60 for bf1 and on top of that you had to pay for dlc

[twin river]

Breda c96 carbine and the panzerbuche

[rich ember]

I’d argue it’s the other way around

[stoic breach]

Its not p2w if the weapons are actually balanced

[static sparrow]

When do patch notes release

[solid hinge]

maybe modern games just suck in general

[rich ember]

Paying for maps is fine and weapons should be free.

[dense bone]

modern gamers are just self entitled

[stoic breach]

Nah

[zenith pendant]

if we choose

[visual blade]

Dice needs to get the hell out of this world war era

[zenith pendant]

I choose free maps and paid weapons

because maps is a bigger experience than weapons

[stoic breach]

Paid weapons and skins

Just some extra shit

[dense bone]

game production cost are way higher, yet we pay the same 60 bucks we have been for YEARS and thats not including inflation

[solid hinge]

the world war era isn't the problem

[stoic breach]

Weapons dont split the playerbase

[solid hinge]

id rather not have paid gameplay effecting content

imagine if you had to pay for the boys and the p08c

[stoic breach]

It wouldnt affect gameplay if it was balanced

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

Paying for Boys AT would be smart for DICE

[short pecan]

what

no

[stoic breach]

$60 for a good recon bolt action

[dense bone]

modern games are trying to not piss off man children while actually making a return on their products for the time they put into them

[stoic breach]

😩

[short pecan]

just make a AAA game p2w bro

[solid hinge]

muh poor developers

[zenith pendant]

Swbf2

[stoic breach]

Yeah man just make it BO4

[solid hinge]

it worked for blops 4

[zenith pendant]

At launch

[dense bone]

see, youre just taking the self entitled gamer stance

[solid hinge]

yeah, I'm so entitled for wanting a good game

[zenith pendant]

okay, lets calm down

[short pecan]

lol

[stoic breach]

SWBF2 went from P2W to just a boring grind

[zenith pendant]

Razen

[dense bone]

you want a good game, with free content at dlc quality and quantity

[zenith pendant]

No new primaries

for 2 years

[stoic breach]

Yeah true

[zenith pendant]

And they have 4

[solid hinge]

no?

[rich ember]

The money doesn’t go to the devs themselves. It goes to the CEO’s. The devs probably aren’t paid as much as they should be.

[zenith pendant]

for each class

It's like Battlefield 1

[solid hinge]

maybe you should read the chat

[short pecan]

"how dare you expect a decent product for €60"

[zenith pendant]

but without extra weapons

[stoic breach]

Man its not like Star Wars has an entire galaxy of weapons to use

[dense bone]

classic response

[zenith pendant]

hey but we get new heroes, right

with variations on current abilities

[stoic breach]

What happened to my Pike or my Orbital Bombardment Rifle or any of the old cool shit

[zenith pendant]

Like, instead of pushing a dude with force

You charge your push and everyone around you gets pushed

[solid hinge]

!roadmap

work blyat

those force abilities are the most broken thing in a game ever

[dense bone]

you have to be at least a regular to use commands

[solid hinge]

dont remind me

[dense bone]

!!roadmap

[stoic breach]

Did you guys know that Battlefront: Renegade Squadron on the psp had a weapon called the Orbital Bombardment Rifle

[ruby trail]

Roadmap: https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/bf/common/bfv-towcalendarvertical-2019.jpg

[stoic breach]

That just sounds hype

[zenith pendant]

Hey

[ivory acorn]

That roadmap suck

Sucks

[solid hinge]

Tfw August wasnt even supposed to have new weapons

We got ONE gun in july

ONE

dice is the new visceral

[stoic breach]

I forgot what gun it was

[short pecan]

karabin

i think

[solid hinge]

S2

[dense bone]

ant is the one hundred thousandth reddit word vomit generator

[zenith pendant]

Honestly drip-feeding weapons is a bad idea

[solid hinge]

Karabin was in august

I think

[short pecan]

s2 was june

[solid hinge]

rad

[short pecan]

what

wait

[zenith pendant]

If they HAVE TO shove them into ToW weeklies

[short pecan]

my sense of time is fucky

[zenith pendant]

shove all of them in the first weeks

[solid hinge]

Has it been that long already

[zenith pendant]

and then the rest is cosmetic stuff

[short pecan]

i think s2 was the reward for the first week

[solid hinge]

You might be right I cant remember

[zenith pendant]

or, you know, just release them outright

and force people to pay company coin

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah thats right

For the 4 primaries per class thing

They should do a balance pass on them

[zenith pendant]

NO NEW PRIMARIES

FOR SWBF2

SINCE LAUNCH

[solid hinge]

swbf2 has some pretty shoddy balancing

[zenith pendant]

if you do good

[stoic breach]

Like imagine if the Valken didnt feel like throwing a balloon in the air when you fire it

[zenith pendant]

you get a hero

and then do even better

[stoic breach]

Or all the snipers actually

[zenith pendant]

while your usual casual scrub gets assblasted

[stoic breach]

High recoil is fine, slow spread decrease is shit

[solid hinge]

the burst fire sniper is sick

[dense bone]

can swbf add new guns? like how many guns are in the movies and how many are in game?

[stoic breach]

Theres billions of guns

[zenith pendant]

4 primaries per 4 classes

[solid hinge]

They have a billion guns to add

[dense bone]

i dont watch or play anything star wars

[solid hinge]

Battlefront 2015 had a shitload

[zenith pendant]

wait

No

It's even less

[stoic breach]

Like why doesnt DICE bring back the Bulldog or Radiation Launcher

[short pecan]

when bf2015 has a higher gun variety you know something went wrong

[solid hinge]

All SW weapons are just ww1 guns with fancy attachments

can't be that hard to make

[zenith pendant]

Because default heavylaser for the heavy class is too similar to one other weapon you unlock

[solid hinge]

give me my han solo pistol carbine for bfv

[rich ember]

STG is a WW1 weapon now I guess

[stoic breach]

Not all weapons are from WW1

[zenith pendant]

in a couple of weeks

[solid hinge]

yeah default gun for heavy is literally the first unlock but worse

[stoic breach]

IQA11 is based on the L96

[solid hinge]

well ww2 and 1

at least the default guns for the other classes actually have different stats

[stoic breach]

And modern

A280CFE is the AR15

[solid hinge]

most of them are just ww1 rifles though

and I'm ok with that

they have a drum mag in there somewhere

because I like the look of them

something looks like the mg34

[zenith pendant]

You know, with SWBF2 I think people are more grateful because they got assblasted at launch with all that stuff you already know

[stoic breach]

DC15 is the MG34

[zenith pendant]

so when they get literally anything they hail the devs

[solid hinge]

same thing happened with no mans sky

YES THANK YOU DEVS FINALLY

[rich ember]

Speaking of WW1 I heard about a horror game that takes place during WW1 called Conscript, I think.

[zenith pendant]

except no man's sky updates are actually pretty damn good

and massive

[stoic breach]

Oh wow, Battlefront 2015 has the MP40 pistol

[short pecan]

its still the same boring gameplay loop tho

[stoic breach]

Krenick's pistol

[zenith pendant]

hey the same boring gameplay loop works for battlefield

[stoic breach]

Lol it has the Deagle as well

[zenith pendant]

since BF3

all that changes is the setting

except BF3-->BF4 setting didn't change

[solid hinge]

it might be boring but at least I can go STAR WAR whenever I play it

[zenith pendant]

Can you rip a bunch of virgin 18-year old tommies with your MG42

[solid hinge]

the only thing bfv makes me do is pop a blood vessel

[zenith pendant]

and then smash your ballsack against their lifeless faces

[solid hinge]

implying bfv has americans

[zenith pendant]

tommy as in brit

[solid hinge]

tommies are brits

[zenith pendant]

🙂

[solid hinge]

wtf

@zenith pendant I almost thought you were talking about tommygun users 😂

[zenith pendant]

Yankees are americans

[solid hinge]

Jack ass 🤣🤣

[zenith pendant]

Tommies are brits

[solid hinge]

I havent met a single british tom in my LIFE

[zenith pendant]

It's a slang thing

[solid hinge]

Germans were Fritz right?

[zenith pendant]

like Ivans are Russians

[solid hinge]

sounds like a you problem

Jerries

[zenith pendant]

and germans are either Hans-s, Fritz or krauts

or jerries

[solid hinge]

Good ol Krauts

🐰

[zenith pendant]

also you can call brits Limey Fucks

[solid hinge]

Why krauts tho?

[rich ember]

I donno

[solid hinge]

sauerkraut

'more you know

[zenith pendant]

Also I want to know how people can stockpile hunderds of thousands of CC in hopes of "Getting something worthwhile"

since rare sets cost 15k at best

[stoic breach]

I stockpile it cause its satisfying

[zenith pendant]

I spend it all because I want to unlock all cosmetic stuff

I have all specs on weapons and vehicles

and all basegame cosmetics for both brits and germans

[stoic breach]

I wish all the weapons in the game could've been unlocked with CC instead of your rank

[zenith pendant]

I am now unlocking facepaints

[stoic breach]

I would've loved to skip the KE7 and MG34 and shit

[reef mountain]

any one noticed all the new acounts being made after the ban wave?

[solid hinge]

remember the cc drought

[zenith pendant]

and after that I'll probably grind for those 20k tank skins

[rich ember]

No

[solid hinge]

you woukdnt have been able to buy shit razen

[zenith pendant]

cc drought aww man

[stoic breach]

1700cC is like

[zenith pendant]

because I focused on gameplay stuff first

[stoic breach]

A few matches

[zenith pendant]

I didn't have enough stockpiled for those epics

[ivory acorn]

I agree

[zenith pendant]

that were available for CC

[solid hinge]

not back when they gave out literally 0 cc

[reef mountain]

sitting at 908678 cc

[ivory acorn]

I’d rather buy all the weapons with company coin

[stoic breach]

Like if I grind cC using the StG1-5 and then buy the FG42

Yeah

I know

[solid hinge]

i had weeks of 0 cc

[stoic breach]

Way back when

[zenith pendant]

@reef mountain Go buy all weapon skins

[stoic breach]

Same

[solid hinge]

[reef mountain]

got them all

[zenith pendant]

you sure

[reef mountain]

yer

[solid hinge]

damn I forgot that even happened now im mad

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

[zenith pendant]

get a life bruv

I think there is no point in playing BFV for you anymore

[reef mountain]

assingments ftw and combind arms on hard

[zenith pendant]

you literally finished the game

[stoic breach]

Combined Arms in general

[rich ember]

So Hunt: Showdown got its 1.0 update today apparently

[stoic breach]

[solid hinge]

thank you for your service

[reef mountain]

jsut need to do the story mode challanges now

also finealy got all gold skins today

[rich ember]

k

[cedar cove]

@rich ember how is it so far? I was eyeballing that game a while back

Big fan of the old L4D's

[stoic breach]

Left 4 dead ?

[rich ember]

@cedar cove I don’t know I don’t play it. I just heard it got the update

[cedar cove]

lol alright 😛

[ivory acorn]

Remnant From the Shadows reminds me of Left4dead mixed with dark souls

[rich ember]

This truly is the dark souls of zombie games

...I’m going.

[solid hinge]

https://twitter.com/bfbulletin/status/1164202075967905792?s=21

UPDATE: The #battlefield-legacy-titlesV Pacific launch will be in late October / early November, says Ryan McArthur (DICE Producer).

Via TwoAngryGamers Livestream.

[cedar cove]

Al Sundan will launch in December

[ivory acorn]

Remnant is pretty fun. Co-op shooting dark souls is a dream come true

[slate girder]

so tomorow there will be come the 5v5 modus?

[solid hinge]

@slate girder maybe, not sure.

[zenith pendant]

no

no 5v5 mode yet

it IS coming, but we don't know when

[dense bone]

people hardly play the 8v8 mode

[solid hinge]

@slate girder DICE are announcing more news about 5v5 next week apparently according to Ryan McArthur

[icy sluice]

So, seeing how different the trailers are with the actual gameplay, it looks like different parts of the map might be used to have like... different amounts of players

Kinda similar to how Battlefield 2... but also we don't know for sure

Also, note that there was no Shark in the gameplay

The trailer stressed there would be a shark

[lusty vessel]

reading all the comments about hate and people immigrating to CoD hurts my heart. dice, what have you done

[dense bone]

dice is being slightly disappointing and a lot of gamers are sensitive and self entitled

[lusty vessel]

it's not slight tho

[reef mountain]

its massivly disappointing

[lusty vessel]

they did so good with bf1

[reef mountain]

iknr

[lusty vessel]

why is this one such a froathy mess

[reef mountain]

ji knwo bf1 started off a bit bad but wazs never this bad

[dense bone]

i really dont see whats so bad about bfv

[reef mountain]

lazy content

[dense bone]

its not even close to bf4 amounts of problems

[reef mountain]

brokewn promises

[dense bone]

free content

[reef mountain]

not relly

[dense bone]

youve paid for some sort of dlc?

[reef mountain]

paying the full price of the game you already broguht the content

[lusty vessel]

Free content but it's taking forever and it doesn't work correctly half the time

[reef mountain]

jbecause they released quater of a finnished product

[dense bone]

yea before you had to pay full price and then dlc

and bf1 released with 1 more map than bfv iirc...

[reef mountain]

jid rather pay for the dlc as it was finnished

and it worked

[lusty vessel]

Al Sundan cq has been in purgatory for 2 months now because all the senior devs left

[dense bone]

well yea, you paid for it

[reef mountain]

yea and it worked

[dense bone]

you paid for it, it better work

[reef mountain]

i payed for finnished content

[dense bone]

that would be a reason to get mad

[reef mountain]

that was aculy enjopyable

[dense bone]

dont get mad because free extra shit isnt what you want

[solid hinge]

Ill happly pay for dlc rather then get turd for free

[reef mountain]

dident want free shit wanted working shit

[dense bone]

your preference is your preference, doesnt mean you have a legit reason to be salty

[lusty vessel]

This isn't "extra" though

[dense bone]

bf1 had a br mode?

[reef mountain]

br mode is trash haha

[dense bone]

bf1 got maps and weapons outside of dlc?

[solid hinge]

this dude is a Dev rights activists by the way

don't fucking bother

[lusty vessel]

This is basically what they've wanted for years

[reef mountain]

aculy yea it did get guns outside of dlc

[dense bone]

nah, im just tired of whiney self entitled gamers

[solid hinge]

see what I mean?

[dense bone]

that apex dev was right when he called people ass hats

[lusty vessel]

How do you know that, ant?

[reef mountain]

only thign im fked off about is that they gave us a turd for a fortune

[dense bone]

he doesnt know anything, hes just salty because i called him out for his ignorance earlier

[solid hinge]

yeah, back when you called me entitled because I wanted a good game

devs = defended

[reef mountain]

i cant keep going ant because i know how much this dev reacharounder will react and its funny

[dense bone]

paying money doesnt guarantee anything

[lusty vessel]

what?

[dense bone]

legally you are probably only allowed a game that functions

[reef mountain]

i mean i can keep going because i know how much of a dev rimjober will react and its funny to me

[solid hinge]

sure why not

[dense bone]

youll say the same reddit hate posts that people circle jerk to all the time and think you are something special

[reef mountain]

i keep seing this reddit people thing i aitn goota clue what it is i jsut want a working game and nbot be fed lies

[dense bone]

someone cant even call you out for being sensitive and overdramatic without someone saying you work for dice

[reef mountain]

but if you wnna suck the dick of someone whos milking your pockets go ahead

[dense bone]

bfv has never not worked for me

unlike bf4

how are they milking my pocket when i paid 30 bucks for the game and get maps and weapons for free?

the logic

[reef mountain]

and the quality of theses maps and guns?

[dense bone]

they are meh

nothing to get mad about

again, if this is what gets you reacting i assume you are sheltered or sensitive

or a meme kid jumping on bandwagon hate since you are desperate to fit in with something

[signal haven]

@dense bone i’m sorry but you are wrong on many levels, have good day

[dense bone]

@signal haven im sorry, but you are wrong, have a good day

[lusty vessel]

i miss premium

[dense bone]

ive never paid for dlc in a bf game

[lusty vessel]

you've missed out on a lot then

[main grove]

Gamers: Complain about good game having DLC
EA DICE: *Makes game with all free content and botches it (Likely on purpose)

Gamers: WTF I want DLC back

[solid hinge]

4d chess

[dense bone]

@lusty vessel i mean, i got the dlc, but i normally get bf games a year after launch to skip bugs and get the whole game and its dlv for like 15 bucks

[main grove]

They made it such a huge deal as well

No premium

No paid for content

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a little project to show people that no DLC= bad game

[dense bone]

tin foil hat time

[solid hinge]

yeah

he probably meant that 100%

you moron

[dense bone]

theres no telling with the internet

you said stupid shit earlier

[zenith pendant]

Okay

No point in calling each other names

Makes you look silly

[night glade]

Releasing a bad/mediocre product? Never heard of it, they must be toying with our minds to get more money out of us

[dense bone]

i dont think anyone can objectively say bfv is bad, its just there, pretty underwhelming at worst

decent at best

[main grove]

I refuse to believe that nobody is trying to sabotage BFV

[zenith pendant]

People tend to overreact

And then overreact some more on text forums

[dense bone]

people behind keyboard with anonymity are expected to overreact

[zenith pendant]

And then shit on devs themselves

And then send death threats because of a game

[main grove]

And then get mad when the devs say they've had enough

[dense bone]

phil fish was right

[zenith pendant]

I mean

A perfect example

[main grove]

Imagine the willpower you need to not tell the r/BFV subreddit to shut the fuck up

[zenith pendant]

Is that dice dude that ssid bf1 had too many maps

[dense bone]

imagine any game dev

[main grove]

If you were the dev

[dense bone]

phil fish was an an indie dev that released a game called fez

[solid hinge]

he was also a massive idiot

[static sparrow]

Are patch notes out?

Tryin to find the update info

[dense bone]

he was working on fez 2 but was getting a bunch of shit, after so much stuff he said "im not making fez 2, you guys dont deserve it" and cancelled the game

[solid hinge]

@FUCK THE COWBOYS#3801 no i think next week

[main grove]

Why was he getting shit?

[dense bone]

the dude is a jerk

[main grove]

So he brought it upon himself

[solid hinge]

yes

[main grove]

It wasn't just entitled crybaby gamers

[dense bone]

being a jerk doesnt mean you rag on the product

[bronze grotto]

what are the three new guns coming

[dense bone]

his game reviewed around 9/10 iirc, but once people found out hes a jerk you can imagine all the shit thrown his way

[solid hinge]

how could anyone hate this poor pure soul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKUGwlFJAHw

[main grove]

I'm not defending him

I just hate gamers so fucking much

[dense bone]

tbf, when he said that, japanese games did suck

[main grove]

Most of them still do IMO

Only decent ones make it to the west

[dense bone]

fair, but they are having a lot of good games coming out recently

[solid hinge]

I'm sure his pixel 2d platformer was better

[main grove]

And even then some fanservice shit leaks through

[dense bone]

his pixel 2d platformer reviewed better than a lot of things

[main grove]

I know capcom has made a comeback but that's because they outsource the fuck out of everything now to a lot of western places

[dense bone]

granted that could be chalked up to indie game hype

[main grove]

It just seems weird

[hoary condor]

[main grove]

I don't know if I should be hopeful for BFV or if it will die after chapter 5

[bronze grotto]

i didnt watch any of the gamescom and shit, what are the new guns coming

[dense bone]

also of course "japanese games suck" was taking as a face value comment, he went on to explain his thoughts on them

[bronze grotto]

iirc

[hoary condor]

I don't think it will die

[bronze grotto]

there's also two tiny maps? lel

inb4 the entire pacific is delayed indefinitely

[main grove]

I really liked battlefield 1 and WW1 is a boring setting unless you take many liberties with it (Like they did)

[dense bone]

i havent touched bfv in probably 2 months now

[main grove]

So I was hyped for a good WW2 game

[dense bone]

last time i played was because scrim team needed a person so i filled

[icy sluice]

I still have a hard time seeing BF1 as a World War I game

[solid hinge]

ww1 is not a boring setting at all, there was way more than the western front

[main grove]

That's why they included those settings

[icy sluice]

Back to Basics on River Somme felt like World War I

Everything else didn't.

[main grove]

I'm sure that before BF1 not many people even knew about nations such as Italy or Ottoman empire fought in it

I mean average people who didn't specialise in history

[dense bone]

basically, bfv is a 6/10 game, but gamers react like its 2/10 and they paid 100 bucks for it

[main grove]

It's got good gameplay but maps and content are a bit lacking as well as annoying bugs

Vehicles need rebalancing

[solid hinge]

BF5 is a 6/10 game but for sure a 2/10 or 3/10 Battlefield game

[polar totem]

The new AT rifle should have come out this week, not another knife

[solid hinge]

Like yeah it hits the boxes to be a game that you can play

[main grove]

I never played BF3

And I hated BF4

[dense bone]

@solid hinge doesnt that just speak of the general quality and amount of stuff you got for a bf game?

[solid hinge]

That?

[polar totem]

So is the trench carbine the same as the M1917 Trench Carbine from BF1 or is it the C96 Carbine

[solid hinge]

Its the c96

[dense bone]

that bfv is a bad bf game, but its a good game still

[polar totem]

thats boring

[solid hinge]

I wouldnt say its a good game

But it is a game

[dense bone]

a decent game

[solid hinge]

Eh

[dense bone]

6/10 is a decent rating

[solid hinge]

Room for improvement though

[dense bone]

well yea

thats why its a 6/10

[solid hinge]

I’d say an 8/10 game is a good game

6/10 is above average

[dense bone]

what would 7/10 be?

[solid hinge]

Hmm

Probably same as 8

Good game

[dense bone]

5 average, 6 above average (same as decent imo), 7 good, 8 great, 9 incredible/amazing, 10 masterpeice

[solid hinge]

9-10 would be a great game

Yeah something like that

[icy sluice]

9-10 being just great sounds like IGN's rating system

[solid hinge]

Well ign doesnt even review games

[icy sluice]

Anything below a 9 is a god awful shit game according to their rating system

[solid hinge]

They get paid to say its good

[dense bone]

i think that MOST major games get about 7/10 skews peoples perception of "average"

i see a lot of people say that when they see a 5/10 they say its bad

[main grove]

5 is average

[dense bone]

when review sites will say its just there

[main grove]

6 is good

4 is bad

[soft storm]

This game is 7.8/10 too much war

[dense bone]

i see what you did there

[main grove]

This idea that something must be 7 or higher to be good is stupid

[dense bone]

^

i can get the thought behind "why play a 6/10 game though"

[main grove]

Because I really fucking like battlefield

I'd play a 6/10 battlefield

[solid hinge]

I like Battlefield too

And thats the point

BF5 is a 6/10 game

But like a 3/10 battlefield game

[main grove]

I'm glad I didn't play older Battlefields

[dense bone]

6/10 games are games that shouldnt be universally recommended imo

its a rating that "if you like what this games offers, you will find enjoyment"

[solid hinge]

Agreed

[main grove]

BFV definitely needs some improvement but I disagree with most of the dramatized hate for this game

[solid hinge]

Such as?

[dense bone]

its just meme kids overreacting as usual

[main grove]

You're not going to improve the state of Battlefield V by going on the subreddit and making several paragraphs telling everyone you're not playing anymore

[soft storm]

kids express truth better than anybody

[coral fiber]

I've defended V but now im practically done and fed up now

[dense bone]

not meme kids

[soft storm]

these tiny maps

thats a nah for me

[icy sluice]

There are smaller variants than what we've seen

The smaller variants are for 5v5

[soft storm]

what the fuck

[solid hinge]

I dont blame anyone leaving and venting their frustration, I think they are 100% justified at this point

[main grove]

I'm fed up but I'm not joining the subreddit anti DICE circlejerk

[soft storm]

how can you make them smaller

[icy sluice]

Look at the trailer

[main grove]

LMAO SOONFIELD AMIRITE

[dense bone]

i dont even defend bfv/dice/ea, i just call out stupid statements

[icy sluice]

Also "Lofoten Islands" the map shown from the gameplay didn't have islands.

[solid hinge]

Soonfield is a great meme

[coral fiber]

Still waiting for al soondone dice
It was suppose to be the Sinai desert for bfv

[solid hinge]

Because all DICE does is say soon

[soft storm]

honestly dont get why they wanted to create smaller maps

[main grove]

Because that's all they're allowed to say

[soft storm]

just make regular sized ones

[main grove]

They don't want to say Soon

[solid hinge]

Yeah and thats why people make the memes

go play your brand new™ dlc then

or are you waiting for it?

So the pushback can pressure the higher ups into changing their shit behaviour

[main grove]

But people act as if DICE want to delay and piss people off

[soft storm]

theres a high level of incompetence at dice

[solid hinge]

UPDATE: #battlefield-legacy-titlesV Operation Underground Map is coming in early October in between Chapter 4/5, says Ryan McArthur (DICE Producer).

Via TwoAngryGamers Livestream.

[main grove]

So lets insult the developers that'll fix things

[coral fiber]

Early October?

[soft storm]

is stating that incompetence an issue a direct insult?

[coral fiber]

Wow something early for once

[main grove]

Yes

[solid hinge]

Like its been 8 months since launch, tank balance is unchanged, planes are still in a shit state, mmgs need adjustment, maps should have revamping like panzerstorm and the list just goes on

[soft storm]

Ok then

[solid hinge]

Anyone mad at dice is 100% in the right as far as im concerned

[soft storm]

i guess my main critique of the studio is gone

[lusty vessel]

From what i've heard all the experienced and talented devs working on bfv were moved to work on another worthless FIFA title. So now the inexperienced staff have to struggle fixing bfv

[dense bone]

i think being mad and reacting the way some have been is being overdramatic

[soft storm]

because it hurts feelings

[dense bone]

i just stopped playing the game 🤷🏼

seems like a reasonable response to me

[soft storm]

same

[solid hinge]

Especially those snarky devs on twitter telling month after month that “oh you wont believe what we have in store”

BIG NEWS

[main grove]

You do realise that they cannot say anything other than corporate speak or they get fired

[soft storm]

GAMEPLAY LITERALLY CURES CANCER

[coral fiber]

I mean i started playing bf4 recently and it's good fun
Even tho I'm a sniper noob

[lusty vessel]

NO. NO MORE NEWS OR NEWS ABOUT ANNOUNCEMENTS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT ANNOUNCEMENTS

[solid hinge]

like never before

[soft storm]

no matter, gears 5 will have my interest very soon

[lusty vessel]

Why is it so hard to make a good game for these devs

[dense bone]

tbf bf games are way more complicated than other games

[main grove]

So none of you don't feel bad for DICE devs in the slightest for being pushed around and forced to work on stuff that they can't handle

[soft storm]

No

[solid hinge]

no

[coral fiber]

No

[soft storm]

I dont have sympathy for situations I cant control

[dense bone]

i feel bad for dice (and devs in general) for how self entitled and bratty gamers are towards them

[lusty vessel]

Yes and no

[soft storm]

Nor do I stress myself out over those things.

[dense bone]

if EA forced them to work on a game with stupid deadlines that sucks for them

[main grove]

@dense bone I couldn't agree more

[vast sinew]

Is tomorrow the New update?

[dense bone]

but at the same time i dont know if thats the story

maybe dice said they could make bfv in 2 years

[lusty vessel]

Next week i think

[dense bone]

too many things i would have to guess at

[solid hinge]

@vast sinew thursday next week

[vast sinew]

Whats tomorrow?

[solid hinge]

More information

[soft storm]

More info for the more info

[solid hinge]

In short we are getting Operation Underground early october and the pacific late october/early november and DICE told us we get 3 pacific maps including Iwo Jima before 2020

[soft storm]

And after that

Who knows

[solid hinge]

stay tuned™