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solid hinge
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I don't think planes should be able to 1 shot tanks

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It's bullshit to drive around for 30 seconds and then a dude insta kills you because you're too slow to run away from his bombs and the perfect speed for an aircraft to nosedive and bomb

stoic breach
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Game design moment 😳

formal valve
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If i drop a fucking 4000 pound explosive on a tank

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It’s gonna die

solid hinge
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But it's never a 2000 pound bomb stoopid

formal valve
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....

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The mosquito has a 4000

solid hinge
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It's always from the Ju

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Nah I know that, if they can hit me with "The slowest bomb known to man" they EARNED it

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But JU and the british bomber with like, 20 different bombs can curbstomp a tank AND have reserves to bomb soldiers

formal valve
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That’s what bombers do lmao

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Break shit

solid hinge
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Yeah, IRL

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In BFV it's bullshit, because tankers can't run away in time, and the noise doesn't play when a bomb's coming anymore because of some audio glitch

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So it's not "Oh gosh, I hear a bomb, better see where it's coming from and run TOWARDS it to survive the blast!" And more "Oh what a lovely day to murder every- and I'm dead."

tribal cairn
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If this was IRL, there wouldn't be any planes or infantry. Just 1000s upon thousands of artillery shells tearing the place up before the infantry and planes Actually come in to finish the job

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So we're lucky for that matter

solid hinge
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That's

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You absolutely missed the mark on what I'm saying.

tribal cairn
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You mentioned IRL

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I wasn't making a comment on your point

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But regarding whether or not you die to a bomb is dependent on your tendency to watch your surroundings for any incoming aircraft in between combat

solid hinge
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Fair enough.

Reguardless, I don't think bombs should be able to 1-shot tanks, if it's the 4000lbs bomb then I understand, that thing is like...

Slow as fuck.

tribal cairn
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Can they adjust course?

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Yes

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Is it logical for them to blow you up effectively?

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Yes.

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In other words, planes are the Trump card to tanks.

solid hinge
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Anybody who complains and does not congratulate a 4000lbs bomber for not dying after he bombs you is probably elitist.

Like, that dude has NO SUPPORT and NO EXTRA GUNS, just a tank cannon, a machine gun, a big fuck off explosive and a will to live

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But people who use the JU and the... other one I cannot remember, I will entirely rag on them.

They designed their plane to maximise in bullshittery snd pissing people off....

Like me! Only I'm allowed to piss people off!

Why do you think I circle tanks in the tiny german tank?

stoic breach
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Vehicle balance is big Thonk

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But its fun to camp with an Archer and just be invincible the whole time

solid hinge
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Oh no obviously

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Or use a tiger to snipe infantry-cross map

coarse thunder
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Bruh whoever complains about planes' ability to absolutely ruin tanks 🤡

stoic breach
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I use a Pz4 for great balance between farming and mobility

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I cant stand the Tiger, just not fun to use

coarse thunder
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Medium tanks in general+ paz38t for light tank+ archer is the best combi

solid hinge
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So

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Everybody

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I found an amazing discovery today in the data-mined files

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And I think I found the bob semple, with a cannon fitted into it

topaz dome
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🤔

solid hinge
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It's soldier sized, with multiple outlooks to stare out at people with guns, it holds an enormous cannon, too big to be british, too impractical to be german, minimal cover, riveted armour that looks like it was made in under an hour and the tread armour is wonkey and imperfect.

coarse thunder
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Isn't there talk of the hummel and the brit TD coming out

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Because it looks like a bastardized Hummel

solid hinge
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Aaaaahhhh

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That may be it, silly me!

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I can't wait to basically just stand REALLY far away and shoot at enemies from behind lines

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If any of you know the devs, please beg them to put in the Bob semple and the really shitty big nazi tank

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I have SO MANY ideas

coarse thunder
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I'd rather not have either

solid hinge
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But THINK of how funny it'd be!

It'd be like a martini henry of the tank class!

coarse thunder
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At best it would be a transport

solid hinge
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I'd give my ideas for upgrades, but last time a mod said my entire paragraph was a "copy pasta" and deleted it

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Naaaah

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You're thinking of it like a tank. I'm thinking of it like a weapon.

tribal cairn
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It looks like it would be Japanese tank

coarse thunder
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Yeah a transport

tribal cairn
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Due to how cheap it looks

solid hinge
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Imagine an upgrade called "Ready to die", where the tank would cause anybody with an Anti-tank weapon to wobble around out of fear. Because if somebody's willing to ride in a tank that has a maximum speed of 40 mph, and a turning speed of 30mph, how many people are they willing to kill?

coarse thunder
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So basically involuntary suppression

solid hinge
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Maybe one where it removes 2 of the 6 brengun machineguns and adds a big cannon, but when it fires it sends you backwards because the tractor can't take the shock of the shot

tribal cairn
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That's basically making a tank a passive bonus to the battlefield and making the entire enemy team's assault population feel like they downed 2 bottles of vodka

steel agate
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That tank doesn't look like the Bob Semple, it's missing the turret at top @solid hinge

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I guess it could be modified

solid hinge
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Exactly

steel agate
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What do the files call it?

solid hinge
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Tanks are not feared in bf5 because assaults are overpowered against it and dying doesnt matter

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That's what's TERRIFYING.

They can be MODIFIED.

And it's a hummel, just bastardised

rapid hatch
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Tanks are Not feared?

solid hinge
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And how can an assault overpower a tank when it looks in every direction

steel agate
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Well, the Bob Semple is..... more of an anti-personnel vehicle

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at best

rapid hatch
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You can Use every Tank For For mostly everything

solid hinge
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6 bren guns mean every direction is covered, minus the top and bottom.

rapid hatch
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It Has thick armory

tribal cairn
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Tanks are feared, but you do realize that troops were trained to face that fear

rapid hatch
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It is to easy with a tank

tribal cairn
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In bfv,

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Tanks are,

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Well,

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They can be scary,

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But are a joke otherwise,

solid hinge
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There was also a really slow, and really big nazi tank.

I had an idea that it'd move at 10 mph, be really shitty in the turning department, but could 1-shot tanks.

tribal cairn
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The Maus?

solid hinge
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Yes yes

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The maus

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Yeah who actually fears tanks in bf5

stoic breach
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Slow moving tanks in BFV

tribal cairn
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If the twisted steel bridge was still standing, you would break it instantly

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hue

stoic breach
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If I dont use a medium tank I'll fall asleep

tribal cairn
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No, but the Maus would be fodder

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It's why the Maus was a failure from the get-go

solid hinge
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I had ideas to upgrade it's armour but make it stationary, wherever you choose to spawn, it stays looking in that direction.

So you could set it up to mortar and snipe tanks, or you could fuck up and set it up in the middle of a base attack.

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Or, you could make the Maus an infantry carrier, where infantry could spawn on it and hop out, like a fat burning trojan horse

tribal cairn
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The Turret traverse would make it horrendous for fighting infantry,

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The movement speed would be detrimental for any offensive push,

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It's only use is long ranged battle

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And even then, it's a large tank,

solid hinge
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Which is why it doesn't have double

tribal cairn
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Someone is bound to see it

solid hinge
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Noooot even TRIPPLE

tribal cairn
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And blow it up

solid hinge
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It has QUADROUPLE THE ARMOUR OF A NORMAL TANK

tribal cairn
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Making it entirely useless

solid hinge
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It just...

Can't turn

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Or

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Move good

tribal cairn
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It's still a big target

solid hinge
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Like, at all

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Yeah. Exactly

tribal cairn
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The top armor would easily be thin enough to be blown up

solid hinge
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Big target, big trojan horse

strange dome
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I just rammed a staghound into the water on rottandam with the german halftruck. RAWR!

tribal cairn
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And also, the infantry carrier idea would be horrible because if it moves so slow,

solid hinge
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Carries a lot of men, can do a lot of damage but cannot move to HIT those targets

tribal cairn
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There is no point to it

solid hinge
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It's a joke tank, like the semple

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That is the point to it

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I mean, in all seriousness, who the hell would ride a vehicle that only does 10mph and can't even turn to shoot it's enemies?

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Who would even ride a vehicle that turns slower than it drives, and has 6 bren guns attached to it?

steel agate
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H!tler would

solid hinge
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The fucken clowns that's who, AND SO WOULD I!

steel agate
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Ratte tank, anyone?

solid hinge
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I AM A CLOOOWN

steel agate
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lol

tribal cairn
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The ratte would only be useful as a artillery unit or coastal artillery

solid hinge
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Jokers

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People who run around and fuck with others

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I do that

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A lot

tribal cairn
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It's why me and my friend do Motorcycle PIAT Hit and runs and Towing an AA gun gunning down infantry in a drive-by

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It's all fun and games

solid hinge
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A tradition for me is to play clown music over the mic as I clown people

coarse thunder
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AA is still very strong against infantry, so I just call it AI

solid hinge
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It's so powerful, it might enslave the human race

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REICHSKOMISSAR

coarse thunder
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Oddly the brits don't have an AA counterpart like they do the AT guns

solid hinge
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who PTFOs and plays Xbox NA WoahThink

coarse thunder
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And HMGs

solid hinge
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Did the brits have aa similar to the flak 38?

coarse thunder
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Probably lemme check

sacred skiff
solid hinge
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Thats a ww1 gun

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Not used it ww2

sacred skiff
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then this

solid hinge
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I dont know if it works like the f38

coarse thunder
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Of 20mm calibers, the Brits only used the Polsten (basically the main gun of the Valentine AA specced to fire fast and with 3 barrels) but the French used others

solid hinge
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Wth is that name @coarse thunder

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Lmfao

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One of my memes even made it in

coarse thunder
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Polsten is the name of the AA gun

solid hinge
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No your name

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Why

coarse thunder
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Because that's all people seem to knoe about ww2 and I constantly hear people clamoring for them

solid hinge
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Ehh

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tfw the 2pdr on the valentine does 4 damage to the front of a tiger

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Well

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Duh

coarse thunder
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I tried to fit in "muh battle of bulge" but there is a character limit

steel agate
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Are we getting Provence and Lofoten Islands by 31 August as promised?

solid hinge
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I wouldnt put my money on it

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Well know tommorow

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You know when theyll release though?

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no

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I have confirmed dates

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Will know at gamescom

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Theyll release Soon

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Soon™

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SOON

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Also we might see pacitic gameplay at gamescom

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Or at least some info

coarse thunder
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Technically the Hispano-Suiza 404 but I'm pretty sure that is already an upgrade for the Spitfire

solid hinge
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It is

coarse thunder
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The "equivalent" examples are also French and modern-issued

solid hinge
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How long will be the bfv part of gamescom

steel agate
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Yeah what date and time do we stream it?

lone bone
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just bought bfv

solid hinge
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What platform?

stoic breach
solid hinge
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Should've done it when Chapter 5 will release

sacred skiff
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anyone have the glitch where when you try to join a match it just brings you back to the menu then you have to hit play again

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and repeat that 2 more times

solid hinge
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No

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There is a flametrower in bfv

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but there ain't a flammenwerfer class in it

coarse thunder
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No logging in glitches for me it just takes time to switch between the cosmetics for the faction. E.g. I am on "allies" tab but it shows my axis troops

solid hinge
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Thats just the game being slow

sacred skiff
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i mean like il hit play then it brings me back to sever browser

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and repeat that like 3 times

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till i get in

solid hinge
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No?

sacred skiff
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yes ?

solid hinge
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Never happened to me

coarse thunder
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That only happens if the server is full iirc

sacred skiff
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its a 37/64

solid hinge
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How much damage per shot do assault rifles deal at their max damage range on average

stoic breach
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Not enough

solid hinge
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How much

coarse thunder
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Im guessing 18

solid hinge
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What

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The fuck why are you all so bad with ars

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I can litterally melt people at a 100ms with ease using stg1-5

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And i suck at controling rec

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Plz

coarse thunder
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?

stoic breach
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Woo hoo

sacred skiff
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i only use the stg 44 because the rest are shoot to fast to be used at anything other then pointblank

solid hinge
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Everyone here hates ars

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Will there be elite classes like a sentry kit in the bfv?

coarse thunder
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Since when

stoic breach
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ARs are 6BTK at max range

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17.5 damage for the StG at least

solid hinge
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Really?

stoic breach
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Yes

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At max range

solid hinge
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Sure doesnt feel like it?

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Ok

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I mean ara are probably thr most versatile guns

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*ars

stoic breach
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Doesnt matter what it feels like, its numbers

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And I checked, the ARs are all 6btk at max range

solid hinge
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Yeah it makes sense

sacred skiff
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theres only one ar worth using

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and thats the stg 44

stoic breach
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M1907

solid hinge
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Stg1-5 is better

stoic breach
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Its not

solid hinge
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It is

stoic breach
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770rpm 4BTK

solid hinge
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Way easier to control

stoic breach
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Dont need to control recoil when bursting exists

lone bone
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I got it on pc

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It was $24

sacred skiff
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where

dark dawn
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Stg 44 is better

sacred skiff
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i just have origin basic

solid hinge
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Stg1-5 is way better

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Why burst when you can full auto at like 70ms

sacred skiff
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and not hit anything

dark dawn
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You burst to be more accurate lol

solid hinge
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I can hit just fi e

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Fine

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Seriously

stoic breach
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Why wouldnt you just max out the rate of fire with no recoil because of bursting

solid hinge
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Stg1-5 is just way more versatile

stoic breach
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It has a larger mag yes

solid hinge
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Does it?

coarse thunder
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Idk about the stg 1-5. I treat it much more like an smg than the other ARs

stoic breach
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31 rounds in StG1-5 mag

dark dawn
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Wait what has a larger mag lol

coarse thunder
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It just looks light

stoic breach
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21 in M1907

dark dawn
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31 rounds in an stg 44 mag as well lol

stoic breach
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StG1-5 is better suited for medics

sacred skiff
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no 30

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30+1

solid hinge
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M1907 is useless outside point bla nk lol

stoic breach
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StG 44 and Gewehr 1-5 were built with the same magazines

dark dawn
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You lot do know that stg1-5 uses stg 44 mags lol

solid hinge
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Already mastering the stg1-5

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Best gun ive ever used in bfv

dark dawn
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The stg 1-5 was built after the stg 44 lol

midnight nimbus
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M1907 is more accurate than SG 1-5 lmao

fast gyro
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Johnny Deep

solid hinge
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my team has 10 kills and 15 death

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i have 9 of those kills

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I'm not playing squad conquest anymore

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Good luck killing anyone with the sf outside of point blank

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i had 200 ping and packet loss as well

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fuckin embarrassing

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the sf is legit good at burst fire

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Squad conquest is worse than tdm seriouly

midnight nimbus
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1907 SF is ez af to use at range

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just pull down

coarse thunder
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I want to heavily tapfire the semi auto of the 1907 sf

solid hinge
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"Just pull down"

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SF is the best gun for aperture sights

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unf

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For the 999th time, im on ps4

coarse thunder
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Especially since the semi auto mode is pretty stable

solid hinge
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tfw you join 5 spawn camped squad conquest matches in a row

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literally every single game of this bar about two has been a spawn camp

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Why do you ever bother with squad cq

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Worst mode

coarse thunder
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Do the assignments require you to play a specific game mode

solid hinge
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to try and understand how they thought this was remotely acceptable

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i dont understand how this got through testing

stoic breach
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Thats conquest

midnight nimbus
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console gets less recoil tho

solid hinge
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I especially don't understand how they replaced domination and frontlines for THIS

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Console has the same rec

midnight nimbus
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no it doesn't

solid hinge
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It does

stoic breach
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It does get a recoil reduction

midnight nimbus
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console gets a 0.75x multiplier for vertical recoil

solid hinge
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now its put me in a 3 v 1

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😂

midnight nimbus
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and a 0.75x multiplier for recoil patterns

solid hinge
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make that 3 vs 0

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Yeah its not just vertical you know

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😂 😂 😂

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holy shit

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Horizontal is a thing

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it actually started the round

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with no one on the enemy team

stoic breach
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Wow

solid hinge
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what the fuck is wrong with this gane

stoic breach
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Ayla just play BF1 instead

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🤷

solid hinge
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Im telling you, why bother with squad cq

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cause they removed frontlines but kept this

coarse thunder
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Follow the bandwagon and play the previous games

solid hinge
sacred skiff
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just play conquest/breakthrough only

solid hinge
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conquest is unironically boring as fuck almost all the time

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True

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Cq has more walking than fighting

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the only good conquest match I had in recent memory that wasnt me piloting all match was me getting revenge on this valentine AA who had been camping in spawn the last 5 matches in a row

stoic breach
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Going back to BF1 is a pretty good bandwagon

solid hinge
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I just want 24/7 metro

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it was arras so the vehicle spawn was in view of the closest point so I stayed there all game

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Going back to bf1 is imposible for me

stoic breach
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24/7 Marita DOM

solid hinge
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Gunplay and movement are atrocious

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Btw marita is trash

stoic breach
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Gunplay is great

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And weapons are interesting

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Marita TDM and DOM feel like CoD

solid hinge
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Gunplay in bf1 is a fucking joke

midnight nimbus
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BF1 gunplay is epic

dark dawn
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Bf1 and bf5 movement is very similar lol

midnight nimbus
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dunk on players bc most people don't know how to use the guns

solid hinge
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Bf1 is more luck than skill

midnight nimbus
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and yeah BF1 and BFV movement are nearly identical

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differences are the slide and changes to jumpshotting

solid hinge
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Bfv movement is way better

lilac umbra
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no its not johnny

fervent knot
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Isnt BFV Movement a bit more advanced?

stoic breach
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Its just fluid

midnight nimbus
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BF1 and V movement speeds are identical

lilac umbra
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bfv is faster

stoic breach
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It just feels faster

solid hinge
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Were not tallking about movement speed man

lilac umbra
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but it also feels good

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but i love bf1 movement more

solid hinge
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Movement in bfv is nearly perfect, extremely smooth and fluid

midnight nimbus
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both games' movement sucks

solid hinge
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busted a tank enough for them to bail and the game ate 3 of my vaults

dark dawn
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Bf1 and bf5 are very similar in general the gunplay is different in the two games tho

midnight nimbus
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BFV movement just sucks less

solid hinge
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fuck this man

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I hate this stupid game

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Bf1 movement is like im playing half life

stoic breach
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Half Life 1 had good movement

solid hinge
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Prob better than bf1

stoic breach
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Probably

solid hinge
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bfv definitely ain't fluid when it fucks up on a constant basis

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I dont get many fuck ups personally

coarse thunder
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My strange addiction

solid hinge
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game eats my vaults at least once a match

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Vaults?

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What(

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When you cant accept that bad bfv does something better than good bf1

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Hopping over something

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Remember bf1 good, bfv bad ooga booga

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Cause the game also fucks up with walking over shin high stuff frequently enough for it to be a pain

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Yeah vaulting always sucked in bf

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Bfv prob does it best tbh

rich ember
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Yeah, Vaulting sucks and that's a Frostbite problem that they can't fix.

solid hinge
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Vautling in bf1 was ass

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Bfv does it way better

rich ember
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Vaulting in BF4 had issues as well, especially with high pings.

solid hinge
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Bf4 had none lol

stoic breach
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Mirror's Edge vaulting 😩😩

rich ember
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Shooting at a guy who vaults over a wall
Guy teleports back to where he was before he vaulted

solid hinge
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oof

rich ember
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BF4 had problems with vaulting.

solid hinge
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Bf4 had no vaulting

rich ember
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are you fucking with me right now

midnight nimbus
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lmao yes it did

solid hinge
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You couldnt climb over stuff higher than you

rich ember
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it had the vaulting animation

midnight nimbus
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vaulting is moving over lower stuff

solid hinge
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Oh right

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Still

rich ember
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jesus.

solid hinge
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Bfv does it best

midnight nimbus
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the best part about bf4 is that you can skip the vaulting animation 😩

dark dawn
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Bro bf4 definitely has vaulting lol

midnight nimbus
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BFV movement is so dogshit compared to BF4

solid hinge
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Oh yes bfvbad bf4good ooga booga

midnight nimbus
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BF4 movement is high speed zoomer af

stoic breach
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Its less of an ooga booga

midnight nimbus
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BFV movement is low speed boomer af

dark dawn
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Bf5 isn’t bad it’s just not in good place rn

stoic breach
solid hinge
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Yes kht bf4 is an allmghty masterpiece and bfv is et on the atari we get it

stoic breach
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🤷

midnight nimbus
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not my fault DICE forgot how to make good BFs 🤷🏼‍♀️

solid hinge
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Bfv is better than bf4 in a lot of aspects

dark dawn
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Bf4 isn’t a masterpiece either it definitely had it issues at launch but DICE fixed bf4 enough to put it in a place where people loved playing the game

solid hinge
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Bf4 is 6 years old

stoic breach
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Thats cause BF4 wasnt broken at it's core

solid hinge
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Just accept it

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Bf4 was litteral trash

midnight nimbus
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BF4 had better vehicle and combined arms gameplay every step of the way

opaque pawn
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Disagree

midnight nimbus
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BFV vehicle gameplay is an absolute abortion

solid hinge
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Yes bfv bad bf4 good

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But why

opaque pawn
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Damn

midnight nimbus
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hmmmm sensible dogfighting mechanics

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high depth helicopters

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tanks that can actually push

solid hinge
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Kht youre litterally a fucking npc

opaque pawn
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Are you really complaining about helicopters in a WW2 game

midnight nimbus
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actual ways for infy to counter vehicles

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actual ways to counter camping vehicles

stoic breach
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When theres a helicopter in Firestorm but not MP

opaque pawn
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yeah i know

solid hinge
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Cause assault doesnt exist in bfv

midnight nimbus
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if you think assault is an actual decent measure against a competent tanker, you're an NPC

stoic breach
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Aight den

solid hinge
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If they added a helicopter in multi you would all cry about muh immersion

midnight nimbus
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assaults literally are not a threat if you have more than 20 brain cells and you're in a tank

solid hinge
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Do you have eyes on your ass?

midnight nimbus
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yeah, it's called the third person camera

solid hinge
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Cause sneaking up on a tank is ez

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You dont have to get too close to plants dynamite

stoic breach
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Bad tankers arent using 3P cam

midnight nimbus
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max FoV + ultrawide monitor, and you can see assaults over hills

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mmmmm

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instant tears when you prefire them right as you come in their view

solid hinge
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Cool

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No go cry about how bfv bad bf4 good on reddit

midnight nimbus
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zero ways for anyone to effectively counter long range vehicles in BFV either

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epic game

dark dawn
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I like bf5 but I don’t get a feeling that I’m playing a ww2 shooter when I play bf5

solid hinge
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Happy cirlcejerk!

stoic breach
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At least people camping in Archers can have fun

midnight nimbus
#

anti air is an absolute joke in BFV as well

stoic breach
#

Playing Mercury and the enemy team spawns BF109s

solid hinge
#

Yes oh

stoic breach
#

Archer time

solid hinge
#

Ok

#

Bf4 had no camping tanks whatsoever

#

No

midnight nimbus
#

hmmmm good thing anyone can do something about it

#

with a Javelin

#

or SRAW

#

or mortar

solid hinge
#

Javelin is useless

midnight nimbus
#

or UCAV

rich ember
#

mortars do something against tanks?

midnight nimbus
#

or even the LAW

rich ember
#

UCAV's do anything against tanks?

solid hinge
#

The panzerschreck and m1 bazooka are gonna be a thing pretty soon

#

So yeah

stoic breach
#

Big maybe

midnight nimbus
#

UCAVs do a lot of damage on vehicles

solid hinge
#

No maybe at all

rich ember
#

how good of them to add this stuff after the fact. 🤔

stoic breach
#

Also being effective tank counters, big maybe

midnight nimbus
#

you can pretty much gib a helicopter with one

solid hinge
#

M1 bazooka already confirmed

#

Panzerschreck is fully finished in the files

midnight nimbus
#

lmao what are the odds of them coming before 2020

solid hinge
#

Big

midnight nimbus
#

or even being useful compared to the PIAT

solid hinge
#

Def gonna be added with the americans

#

went back to titanfall for a match

stoic breach
#

Rip PIAT splash damage

solid hinge
#

unf

rich ember
#

@solid hinge how was that

solid hinge
#

like an absolute dream

#

0 bugs

#

beautiful movement

stoic breach
#

Are you gonna add me on psn to 1v1? 😩

solid hinge
#

hipfire that works

midnight nimbus
#

anti vehicle gadgets that actually do something?

stoic breach
#

Time for Archer

#

And MGL

solid hinge
#

tfw the SMR is the boys but in smg format

stoic breach
#

And Charge Rifle

solid hinge
#

and actually effective

rich ember
#

@solid hinge You talking about Titanfall 1 or 2?

solid hinge
#

2

#

1 is good too though

stoic breach
#

Kraber 😩 a good bolt action

solid hinge
#

Killing tanks in bfv is pretty ez

rich ember
#

i really need to grab Titanfall 2

stoic breach
#

Killing shit tankers in BFV is

midnight nimbus
#

good thing most BF pilots and tankers are incompetent af

stoic breach
#

Everyone wants to push

midnight nimbus
#

any half competent tanker or pilot is effectively invincible

solid hinge
#

You can plant dynamite, throw an at grenade and fire 1 panzerfaust and the tanker wouldnt even realise

#

tfw the kraber is more viable than battlefields bolts

midnight nimbus
#

mfw any decent pilot or tanker recognizes how shit anti vehicle measures are in BFV

solid hinge
#

in a game with full 3d movement

#

Yes ok bfv bad

#

sure

midnight nimbus
#

and how shallow vehicle gameplay is

solid hinge
#

Yes

#

Bfv bad

#

wont argue that titans are balanced but at least playing scorch is fun

#

playing a light tank feels like im made out of balsa wood

stoic breach
#

Ayla you should join the r/Titanfall discord

solid hinge
#

Light tanks are useless

#

I browsed it on and off for a while

#

Then the updates stopped coming

#

They nerfed light tanks too hard

stoic breach
#

The discord community is active at least

stiff sky
#

@solid hinge what is titans. when i hear titans or read it i think straight away mechs

stoic breach
#

Thats what it is

stiff sky
#

light tanks now got me so i must be wrong cant be mechs right

forest wadi
#

When I think about mechs I think about Gundam

rich ember
#

I heard the Pilot v Pilot mode in Titanfall 2 is dead tho, which makes me sad

stoic breach
#

I just like to 1v1 in Pilots v Pilots

#

Actual Titan combat in Titanfall 2 is really wonky

#

Titan v Titan

stiff sky
#

? yeah still lost. bet never mind that panzer buchse when. is it week 11. why cant we know whats coming in the weekly tow. surly they have that planned out

stoic breach
#

Hopefully large weapon drop

dark dawn
#

I hope a large weapon drop happens

stoic breach
#

Its probably not gonna be that way

stiff sky
#

the axis offense is the only thing that makes me think its week 11. and they mention its one of the weapons in this chapter of tow

solid hinge
#

Yo lads

#

Did we got that anti tank German weapon?

rich ember
#

no

stiff sky
#

ohh flame thrower class to explode with the at rifle yeah that would be fun. killing surrounding people as well@solid hinge

stoic breach
#

Day 35 still waiting on more gameplay features

stiff sky
#

waiting for incinerate hackers option

#

in settings

solid hinge
#

Waiting for good balancing system day 159

#

Last 3 weeks are Breda PG, C96 Canrbine and Panzerbusche 39

stiff sky
#

where do you read this from

#

or is there a youtube vid i misserd

#

missed*

solid hinge
#

It was confirmed by dice

stoic breach
#

Just dont know when 🤷

stiff sky
#

how many dice sights are there

solid hinge
#

What?

stiff sky
#

(insanity face emojie)

stoic breach
solid hinge
#

W H A T

dark dawn
#

Yeah but the lanchester gun has been finished for ages and they ain’t releasing it

stiff sky
#

i treid to find witch week the panzerbuchse was coming. couldnt find anything other than its in this tow chapter

stoic breach
#

Lanchester and Sterling lol

#

Welgun lol

solid hinge
#

Its prob week 11

stiff sky
#

thats what i think too. the title makes sense

solid hinge
#

There are around 15 guns in the files that are finished

dark dawn
#

The welgun isn’t as completely finished as the lanchester

solid hinge
#

The lancaster wont be added

stiff sky
#

thought you were talking about the bomber for a sec

dark dawn
#

It should be lol it’s been ready to release for months lol

solid hinge
#

Its litterally a reskin

#

If they add it people will get angry

#

Its litterally already in game

stiff sky
#

no just give the bf109 the mk108 30 mm auto anti air armament

dark dawn
#

Maybe but people will say the m1a1 Thompson is literally a reskin of the m1928a1 lol

solid hinge
#

The m1a1 is way differenr

#

Different

gritty grail
#

I had some awesome gameplay on BF4 last night. I miss these modern shooters heh.

stiff sky
#

oh your not talking about the plane lol my bad

dark dawn
#

Yeah ik but the average player won’t actually know about guns lol

stoic breach
#

Imagine if the M1A1 is an entirely new gun

#

And it has no recoil

#

And is just an ez melt machine

dark dawn
#

@gritty grail you’ll love modern warfare then

unkempt prism
#

anyone have tips for beginner BFV player

solid hinge
#

M1A1 is just like sten/mp40

tidal citrus
#

guys i just had the sex

gritty grail
#

I stopped playing COD after Black Ops 2, I don't even know what the heck it is anymore. @dark dawn

stoic breach
#

@unkempt prism dont use bolt actions

stiff sky
#

@gritty grail i dont was abit boring. if they didnt do bf1 bf itself would have become very tired. bf 3 and bf 4 not much differance

solid hinge
#

nothing like m1928

gray saffron
#

m1a1: 30 mag, simpler ironsights, bolt on the side. sounds gut to me

tidal citrus
#

and it was like penis in vagin

rich ember
#

@gritty grail have you seen footage of MW?

gritty grail
#

That is true, @stiff sky

solid hinge
#

Slower rof

gritty grail
#

No I haven't @rich ember

stiff sky
#

i do mis the mav gadget

solid hinge
#

Mw looks good as hell

stiff sky
#

wis we had a dove or felcon as the mav

rich ember
#

@gritty grail You should go watch it and see what you think of it, Infinity Ward has gameplay up on their channel.

stiff sky
#

wish

unkempt prism
#

should I stick to the medic class?

stoic breach
#

Medic class

gray saffron
#

i really wish the currenty tommygun we have had the frontgrip to make it really look like the old tommies. missed oppertunity(especially since it was shown in pre-release footage grrr)

stoic breach
#

Use suomi or thompson

solid hinge
#

How did you miss mw

stoic breach
#

And break the game with unbalanced medic

stiff sky
#

@unkempt prism play how you want to its your game probably XD

gritty grail
#

I haven't played the multiplayer on BF5 yet. I'm too focused on finishing the single player lol. Getting a feel for the game. It honestly doesn't feel anymore different from BF1. Same engine? No tweeks?

dark dawn
#

Modern warfare will have a 32vs32 mode plus a 50vs50 mode too @gritty grail

stoic breach
#

There are tweaks

#

Bad tweaks

gray saffron
#

movement and gunplay is heavily different

#

graphics are samish i'd say

solid hinge
#

BFVBADBF1

gritty grail
#

Jeeez, now they're just copying battlefield haha! @dark dawn

solid hinge
#

ogaa booga

gritty grail
#

Oh really? @gray saffron ? What's different?

stoic breach
#

MW2019 not having minimap is enough to make me not want to play it

stiff sky
#

@solid hinge i miss the modern drone from bf 3 and 4. i loved spotting people not just to aid your team you also see alot of funn and crazy sh*t

solid hinge
#

Bfv movement is way better

dark dawn
#

Yeah but if dice ain’t gonna make a modern shooter someone else might as well lol

stiff sky
#

called the MAV

solid hinge
#

Bf2020 is 100% modern

stoic breach
#

Next BF game is probably gonna have attrition

dark dawn
#

There isn’t gonna be bf2020 lol

solid hinge
#

You sure?

stiff sky
#

dont care too much about that right now. want them to fix bfv. by fix i mean get rid of hackers

gritty grail
#

No minimap? No way! @stoic breach

dark dawn
#

The next bf game will most likely be in 2021

stoic breach
#

🦀 Battlefield is gone 🦀

solid hinge
#

Nope 2020

#

Every 2 years

gritty grail
#

I hope the next Battlefield game is Bad Company 3. Oh that was great

stiff sky
#

a bug sure its annoying but hackers are always game breaking and i see them way more that i notice bugs

dark dawn
#

Then It’ll be a very broken game

unkempt prism
#

so anyone have tips for a newbie

stiff sky
#

shoot the red stuff

solid hinge
#

What platform you on?

gritty grail
#

There doesn't seem to be many hackers on the Xbox (or console) version? I haven't really seen hackers on a battlefield game, even BF3.

solid hinge
#

Just don't play BFV at all @unkempt prism

unkempt prism
#

lmao

#

PC

solid hinge
#

Console doesnt have hackers

stiff sky
#

@gritty grail wasnt talking about console

solid hinge
#

Its litterally impossible

stiff sky
#

probably not

solid hinge
#

It is

#

You cant hack on console

stiff sky
#

there must be some ultra nooooob that cant play games and want to use hacks on console

gritty grail
#

What are the advantages of playing on PC then? Just better framerate?

gray saffron
#

more options when it comes to movement. ability to roll when you fall from a high cliff (tap crouch when you're about to get hurt), leaning (press F/interact button while aiming), proning aiming when you jump on your back etc and crouch running, you can vault through windows and stuff easier. @gritty grail gunplay is different due no more random bullet deviation, so it should be a bit more accurate on where you land your shots. all the weapon selection is a bit more varied and different for each class. instead of samish, but slightly different guns. they all feel like they're fullfilling some sort of role. support: you could go mmg which gives lots of ammo capacity and rof, but you'll be proning or finding stuff to bipod on. or you take an lmg, but your rof etc will be lower. or go close range with shotguns.

formal valve
#

I think they’ll have a new one in 2021

#

I don’t see them ditching BFV this quickly

solid hinge
#

Its been every 2 years forever now

formal valve
#

So?

rich ember
#

@gritty grail higher framerate and better potential control with keyboard and mouse, basically.

stiff sky
#

i think they want to redeam themselves but making bf 5 reallly good

solid hinge
#

DICE didint even add the Soviets,man

stiff sky
#

by*

solid hinge
#

They will later on

stiff sky
#

yeah cant have ww2 without potatoes and vodka

dark dawn
#

If DICE knows what’s good for them in terms of development they’ll have the next one in 2021

stoic breach
#

Random bullet deviation

solid hinge
#

I thought it was common knolewdge that theyre doing a chronological thing

stoic breach
#

As in literally just Battlefield bullet spread

solid hinge
#

Soviets will come after americans

stiff sky
#

yeah

solid hinge
#

I hope

#

How do you not know that?

#

Jesus

#

I mean,DICE is DICE

rich ember
#

imagine knowing anything

stiff sky
#

the russians have to be in the game they know that. cant have a ww2 game without russians

solid hinge
#

They will add them

#

After the pacific

#

For sure

gritty grail
#

Thanks for your writeup, @gray saffron ! Wow lol that's pretty cool.

stiff sky
#

yip

lavish sun
#

DICE got a great success in RUSSIA DLC IN BF1

stoic breach
#

R B D LUL

lavish sun
#

!RANK

stoic breach
#

Good job

solid hinge
#

Wrong one @lavish sun

lavish sun
#

what?

solid hinge
#

How i think its gonna go is pacific, soviets then europe 1943-1945

formal valve
#

I doubt the Soviets are coming

gritty grail
#

How can you have a WW2 game without the Soviets?

lavish sun
#

u r using STG44 in 1942

formal valve
#

If chapter 5 flops I guarantee they will drop the game

solid hinge
#

Theres no way dice is ditching soviets

formal valve
#

They said themselves it all depends on chapter 5

solid hinge
#

Yes

formal valve
#

Yes way

stoic breach
#

Chapter 5 is gonna flop

solid hinge
#

Chapter 5 wont flop

#

Why would it

formal valve
#

The Soviets aren’t something they’d want to have politically anyway

stoic breach
#

Japanese MMG campers in bushes

#

Water

gray saffron
#

brothers in arms was without soviets 😦

#

no one complained there ;D

rich ember
#

@stoic breach Random Bullet Deviation more like "you were aiming at them? no you weren't."

solid hinge
#

3 maps in Pacific tho

stiff sky
#

russians come with ptrd 41 and or the ptrs at rifles

formal valve
#

3 maps at launch @solid hinge

stoic breach
#

More like "dont snipe someone with an smg"

dark dawn
#

Chapter 5 could flop if it comes with a bunch of bugs

formal valve
#

Not altogether

stiff sky
#

japs had one to. well everyone did

solid hinge
#

Oh

stoic breach
#

"Random Bullet Deviation" is just spread

gritty grail
#

What was that cool soviet gun? The PPSH-1?

solid hinge
#

Did you seriously think they would only add 3 maps

#

How the fuck

#

Y e s

formal valve
#

I mean this is dice

#

You moron

solid hinge
#

DICE IS DICE

formal valve
#

This is dice we’re talking about

#

This is BFV

stoic breach
#

They're gonna have more maps and they're probably gonna be questionable

solid hinge
#

They specifically said that it would launch with 3 maps

#

How would the pacific work for grand ops? Day 1 Okinawa day 2 iwo jima or something?

formal valve
#

We’ve gotten a asset flip, campaign flip, and two unique maps in line 9 months

solid hinge
#

I want Naval combat tho

formal valve
#

So I don’t blame him for thinking we’re only getting 3

main grove
#

I feel like I'm one of the few people who prefer the 900rpm Thompson

stiff sky
#

@formal valve you know alot of franchises mark their own graves bf hasnt doent that yet

stoic breach
#

900rpm thompson is fantastic

stiff sky
#

done

formal valve
#

Never said that

solid hinge
#

Were getting like 4 maps in the next 2 monts

#

Like,Planes vs other planes vs ships vs other ships

stoic breach
#

I forgot how good it was

formal valve
#

*2 maps

dark dawn
#

Chapter 5 is having about 5-6 maps in total I think

formal valve
#

Of which aren’t for conquest

#

So nope

solid hinge
#

Al sundan, lofoten, provance and underground

formal valve
#

Again, two of those aren’t conques

#

So i dont care

solid hinge
#

You dont know that

formal valve
#

We do know that

solid hinge
#

They never said they wont

stiff sky
#

think the pacific will be way better in grand operations than anything else

formal valve
#

They’ve said multiple times they are for smaller game modes

dark dawn
#

Underground is October lol

solid hinge
#

I said next 2 months

formal valve
#

Underground isn’t even apart of chapter 4, why did they advertise it with it lmao

solid hinge
#

Why not

#

Im most excited for soviet maps and european maps that aren't in greece or norway lol.

stoic breach
#

Operation MMG

dark dawn
#

Because why not lol

stoic breach
#

Lets be totally honest

formal valve
#

I still want Africa

stiff sky
#

cus they say well this is what we are working on

formal valve
#

@stoic breach it’s gonna be a shit show

stoic breach
#

Its gonna be fucked

formal valve
#

I still want more Africa

solid hinge
#

I wanna bayonet charge with a LMG in Chapter 5
Dice pls

formal valve
#

Best theater of WW2 imo

stiff sky
#

@formal valve a non beleaver

solid hinge
#

No

stoic breach
#

You can do that

#

FG42 bayonet

solid hinge
#

Im done with africa i just want russian and european

formal valve
#

Heathens

solid hinge
#

Metro in bfv is gonna be terible and thats saddening

#

Y?

formal valve
#

Africa would be perfect for the battlefield formula

solid hinge
#

Mmgs

formal valve
#

Large massive combined arms battlefields

solid hinge
#

oh yeah

#

And the boys

formal valve
#

Tanks

#

Planes

solid hinge
#

Actually yeah africa with some houses

stoic breach
#

Large open maps 🙅

formal valve
#

African maps don’t need to have wide open spaces with nothing

stoic breach
#

Unless its breakthrough

formal valve
#

It wasn’t just fighting in open desert

#

Not the whole time

solid hinge
#

But rsp will let us run servers that litterally remove mmgs

sacred skiff
#

fuck desert maps

solid hinge
#

So yeah

formal valve
#

Fuck YoU @sacred skiff

#

Ha

stiff sky
#

@solid hinge yeah. metro is going to be nooooob class just spamming dynomite and piat. what am i saying thats no differant from any map

stoic breach
#

Yes, cull useless weapons

#

MMGs, bolt actions

solid hinge
#

When the soviets come I want To hear "URAAAA!!" while bayonet charging

stoic breach
#

Pistols other than revolver

sacred skiff
#

@stiff sky thats what makes metro good. the chaos

solid hinge
#

You will

stoic breach
#

Sten/MP40

solid hinge
#

Mmgs arent chao

#

chaos

dark dawn
#

Friendly fire turned on for the soviet team lol

formal valve
#

If the Soviets come, I want the incendiary grenades for all factions to be changed to Molotov’s

#

I don’t care

#

Molotov’s look cooler

solid hinge
#

They might be soviet exclusive

stoic breach
#

Imagine friendly fire in BFV lol

formal valve
#

Oh boy here we go again with the order 227 misconception

stoic breach
#

The griefing

stiff sky
#

@sacred skiff i dont use the noob class. its way to potatoe for me. way too campy and easy. brain dead

formal valve
stoic breach
#

Noob class?

sacred skiff
#

@stiff sky ah, i see you are the enlightened sniper

stoic breach
solid hinge
#

Mmgs are tarded

formal valve
#

I swear to god enemy at the gates fucking exaggerated it so much

stoic breach
#

Too campy and braindead is bolt actions

solid hinge
#

I want the uraaa and the banzaii

sacred skiff
#

camping with the assault class

stoic breach
#

Recon bolts NotLikeThis

stiff sky
#

@sacred skiff support and sniper and medic. just not noob class

formal valve
#

Leave my bolts alone reee

solid hinge
#

Who camps with assault

formal valve
#

Let the one person who likes them bee

sacred skiff
#

support and sniper are way campier then assault lol

gray saffron
#

lol, dude left his tank in bf1. stole it and went on a 12 kill streak. people should not abandon their vehicles, man 😦

formal valve
#

Plea

sacred skiff
#

braindead weeb

stoic breach
#

Nobody is safe from the numbers

formal valve
#

stop hate on bolts

solid hinge
#

Bolts iron sights

formal valve
#

Pls

stoic breach
#

😔

formal valve
#

It’s a dead horse

solid hinge
#

Bolts are fine

stoic breach
solid hinge
#

Shut up

formal valve
#

Not really

stiff sky
#

@solid hinge alot of people camp with dynomite more than mmgs. actuall i would say ratio of assult camping to support is 4:1

sacred skiff
#

doubt

formal valve
#

I mean if your good like me and can hit headshots a lot

sacred skiff
#

lol

formal valve
#

They’re pretty good

stoic breach
#

If you can hit headshots, you make the bolt action borderline useable

formal valve
#

That’s a me!

#

“Borderline useable”

sacred skiff
#

@stiff sky you are talking out of your ass

formal valve
#

That’s a new one

stoic breach
#

But you could just dunk on people with the AGm42 instead though

solid hinge
#

You cant camp with dynamite you only have 3

formal valve
#

@stoic breach exactly

stoic breach
#

Treat yourself

formal valve
#

I still need to use the Agm

stoic breach
#

Use AGm

formal valve
#

Haven’t used it since January

solid hinge
#

You just said that the assault to support camper ratio is 4:1

stoic breach
#

Favourite SAR by far

formal valve
#

I like the MAS

solid hinge
#

Fuck sars

formal valve
#

Pre nerf MAS 😫👌

solid hinge
#

Stg1-5 tfw

stoic breach
#

When the MAS has a higher velocity than bolt actions

#

😩

formal valve
#

😫

solid hinge
#

wElcoMe to BatTleFielD FIvE

stoic breach
#

SARs completely invalid ARs other than the M1907 (sort of)

solid hinge
#

What?

stiff sky
#

yeah the noob class has killed the recon class. only reason to use recon class if for at rifle and if you can get headsots. i dot it for spotting as well. but many get rid of campy places and stuff.

sacred skiff
#

ok

solid hinge
#

ok

stoic breach
#

Boys AT 😩😩

solid hinge
#

Wym invalid ars?

stiff sky
#

its sooo fun

stoic breach
#

Like why would you use an AR if you can just use an SAR

vapid pivot
#

Anyone free to play

sacred skiff
#

you just confirmed you are le enlightened recon

solid hinge
#

So I just completed the new tides of war thing.

It's not worth it.

It says "Panzer 38T - BODY" so it made me think "Ohh, a body modification? Those must be out now!"

So I did it.

It's a skin. Not a body thing.

It's worthless.

stoic breach
#

3BTK, no hrec

#

Only vrec

formal valve
#

Anyone else excited for the Burst fire rifle

solid hinge
#

Ars can easily melt sars

formal valve
#

That we get later this chapter

#

The Breda Pg

stiff sky
#

@solid hinge no one cars about the reward just capter xp

#

cares

vapid pivot
#

Any 1 free 2 play

stoic breach
#

AR can melt SAR in like <10m

solid hinge
#

We have three more weeks, Roberto.

We're not getting too many guns unless the last three weeks are guns nobody's gettin nothin

stoic breach
#

Other than that, pretty pointless

dark dawn
#

Bro the model 8 and selbstlader 1906 have higher fire rate in bf1 then bf5 lol

solid hinge
#

@stiff sky *this chapter

sacred skiff
#

anyone who picks recon should be autobanned for throwing

solid hinge
#

I havent died to an sar in a week

formal valve
#

@solid hinge dice confirmed the other day that three guns are coming at the end of the chapter

#

Those last three weeks are new guns

vapid pivot
#

Sar like saudi arabia ryals)

solid hinge
#

FUCK YES

#

Its always a zh, a lewis or an mmg

#

Never a sa

#

PANZERBUSCHE PANZERBUSCHE PANZERBUSCHE

#

Sar

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1 of the gun is a anti tank rifle lol

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PANZERBUSCHE PANZERBUSCHE PANZERBUSCHE

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Ive killed sar users with the stg1-5 at likw 60ms

stiff sky
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@solid hinge yeas

solid hinge
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Full auto

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Yayes

formal valve
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The PanzerBusche, C96 Carbine and Breda M1935 PG

solid hinge
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Full auto anti tank gun lmao

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Just cause you sucm with ars doesnt mean they suck

stiff sky
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its called an auto cannon

solid hinge
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I think we'll be able to buy gadgets and pistols at the end of the event

vapid pivot
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I hate boys at rifle the anti tank gun you see, people across the map pron with that gun bf5 in a nutshell

stoic breach
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Just because I suck with ARs weirdChamp

solid hinge
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Oh noooo

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Panzerbusche will be 2 shot

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Do you need a napkin for that 3inch hole I shot through your chest?

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Not 1 shot

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Let me press F on the worlds smallest keyboard for you

stoic breach
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If the Panzerbuchse is 2BTK it will literally be worse than Lee Enfield

formal valve
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I just want to know what happened too the Welrod

stiff sky
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@vapid pivot thats out the one shot range how the hell dont you see this massive tracer slowly flying at yoyu

formal valve
stiff sky
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you

formal valve
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I wanna be like Karl

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And Welrod ppl

solid hinge
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It will have extreme velocity

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Fuck off

stoic breach
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Where are you getting these stats from?

solid hinge
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Bolts are just fine

stoic breach
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Bolts do need buff

stiff sky
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@solid hinge well it did

solid hinge
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No they dont

stoic breach
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When you headshot someone, congrats, you have a slow as fuck slug shotgun

stiff sky
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1200m/s or somthing

stoic breach
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Woo hoo

formal valve
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Even as a avid bolt player, I think they need a buff as well

rich ember
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"I don't think they need a buff so they don't, i'm the authority on this, i know everything, no i won't say where i get my data from."

vapid pivot
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Not looking at the shot i hear it but from where idk

stoic breach
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I generally love bolt actions as well

solid hinge
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no they fucking dont

rich ember
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@solid hinge "I don't think they need a buff so they don't, i'm the authority on this, i know everything, no i won't say where i get my data from."

formal valve
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Pistols need a buff tho

solid hinge
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Youre a brony

stoic breach
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Nice comeback

formal valve
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LMAO

solid hinge
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Youre litterally braindead

rich ember
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looking at my profile picture instead of my argument, classic move.

gray saffron
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revolver definitely need a buff ;D (just kidding)

stoic breach
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Bolt actions have weaker muzzle velocity than SARs and SLRs

rich ember
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LOOK AT THIS MAN WITH HIS PRO GAMER MOVES HERE

formal valve
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DICE killed my beloved M1911

vapid pivot
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I really wanna get better at quick scoping

stoic breach
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Also weak damage

stiff sky
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@vapid pivot you cant see a shining scope or a massive tracer. and the way the tracer ëxplodes so to speek can tell you the direction as well

vapid pivot
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Any tips

stoic breach
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Weak speed

formal valve
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The weapon that I used most in BF1

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Is worthless in BFV

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And I sad

stoic breach
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Rip 1911

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Used to be good

solid hinge
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I remember hearing the pnzrbusche will be 2 shot

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I hope

stoic breach
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I dont

solid hinge
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I do

vapid pivot
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Look i only had the game for 2 weeks

solid hinge
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Im sure

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People who complain about anti-tank rifles are like bread

Plain and sad. Only really show their colours when you spread the same thing on it over and over again.

formal valve
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I hope it can really hurt tanks

rich ember
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"I don't think they need a buff so they don't, i'm the authority on this, i know everything, no i won't say where i get my data from."

vapid pivot
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I just want some tips

stoic breach
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If the PzB38 is 2 shot it will literally be throwing the game if you use it

stiff sky
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@solid hinge wtf. it was a single shot breach chamber falling block

gray saffron
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don't think about aiming, just shoot :3

solid hinge
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The fuck do you want @rich ember

formal valve
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LMAO GUYS

solid hinge
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@vapid pivot Anti tank rifle weilders will freak out and miss if you shoot them. They're not ready for wounds

vapid pivot
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Dont make me feel like a noob please

formal valve
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I got kicked from a discord server I was in for saying I like MMGs

solid hinge
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But

stoic breach
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Rip

rich ember
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@solid hinge i want you to explain why you think bolt actions don't need a buff, instead of just brushing me off because of my profile picture.

solid hinge
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Mmg's are cool

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B-Blyat...

vapid pivot
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Thank @solid hinge

rich ember
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ideally if your argument has a basis, it shouldn't be that hard.

stoic breach
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MMGs arent even worth using over the Bren

solid hinge
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i dont mind a muzzle velocity buff

vapid pivot
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4 the tip

stoic breach
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Except maybe the S2

solid hinge
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Thats all they need

formal valve
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The Bren is fun

stiff sky
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@rich ember cant take you seriously think thats why Xp

stoic breach
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Bren is fantastic

solid hinge
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A velocity buff thats all