Or just bring Basar from bf3 back ^^
#battlefield-legacy-titles
oblique pendant
reef mountain
al soondun
rich ember
Also, things change between when the trailer is made and when the game is out and being worked on, you expect 'em to retroactively change the trailer? 😒
oblique pendant
Nope
rich ember
😒 😒 😒 😒
reef mountain
what lies do yo think they will tell us in gamescom 2019?
rich ember
i donno
reef mountain
well aculy japan had a glider bomb you could fly
the large planes towed them
the planes you jump from in airborn even discribe they tow gliders
oblique pendant
What would be nice would be a squad leader radio and following that a hardcore mode where you can play battlefield tactical done that in bf2 &4 and it was the best rounds I've played in bf
rich ember
There are better games for that.
reef mountain
ill be making a hardcore server and setting up a server discord with both teams comms with push to talk ready for september
oblique pendant
And a arcade style tactical hardcore shooter why not ?
rich ember
I can't say most people lament the loss of planes, even then, i think ArmA has them as well
reef mountain
tbh the way planes work on bfv id be happy if they removed planes
rich ember
and also those two things you just said, that's probably close to Insurgency Sandstorm.
So you do.
oblique pendant
But Insurgency has no vehicles -_ - and Arma isn't that arcadey
rich ember
Sandstorm has the trucks with the machine guns on
oblique pendant
Jep but that's it except the truck you ship in
rich ember
You're talking to someone who isn't a fan of vehicle vs. infantry gameplay anyway, so..this really isn't a problem, in my opinion.
And i'm well aware of ArmA not being arcade-y.
I was saying Insurgency Sandstorm was more what you were thinking of when you said "arcade style tactical hardcore shooter"
which is only barely an oxymoron
rich ember
@midnight nimbus it's more arcadey than ArmA/Squad
midnight nimbus
true
midnight nimbus
oh it is
fast gyro
Bruh the minigun on the Blackhawk of BC2 it's OP as fuck it just melts you in a sec
rich ember
because there isn't a hud
fast gyro
Cause if you're bad you are fucked
rich ember
like that's literally it
there's no hud
if you're decent at the game in core it's a nonissue
midnight nimbus
less information to the player = massive skill compression
bad players don't take advantage of minimap or other HUD features anyways
rich ember
good players can do well without those things, even if they'd normally take advantage of them when available.
midnight nimbus
I never got the point of pushing more "teamwork based" games with less player information feed
things like minimap are great for improving player coordination
oblique pendant
You have the more realistic feeling thats what I like when the HUD is gone
fast gyro
True
rich ember
because people are totally going to work as a team without the HUD in a public game
I'm fucking joking that never fucking happens, you know what happens, they die all the time and teamkill.
fast gyro
Lmao
midnight nimbus
mfw people wanting MOAR TACTICAL but also complaining ab teammates having no coordination and just running in circles
rich ember
i'd post a picture right now but i can't
fast gyro
If R6S didn't had HUD there would need to have lots of team play
rich ember
as if there's not a lot of teamplay in R6S already
fast gyro
Yes
midnight nimbus
having high levels of coordination just to be functional doesn't work
fast gyro
But you would need moar
midnight nimbus
just ridiculously unrealistic to expect this out of players
when you have different call outs than everyone else
oblique pendant
Most times it doesn't work cause it needs training ^^
hoary condor
@rich ember DM me it and i can post it
midnight nimbus
without HUD elements, you don't even know where your teammates are
so you don't even know what role to take yourself
fast gyro
Playing Rescue or Crosshair in BFH it's like playing with random birds
Just go anywhere they want and rush alone to quickscope
midnight nimbus
teamplay games are at their best when teamplay is super easy
unconscious coordination
rich ember
Like CS:GO.
reef mountain
want teamwork jump ina platoon of people
rich ember
Teamwork is easy as fuck in CS.
Because it takes no effort. You just tell people where people are, and where they should go.
oblique pendant
2a 3b ^^
fast gyro
One long, one short
rich ember
imagine if CS had no hud and the maps were large as fuck and nobody knew the layout
fast gyro
2double doors
reef mountain
so bfv currently has squads what if they added platoon groups in game so the platoon leader in game can mark to command the platoons squads?
rich ember
that's already a thing
reef mountain
like a commander
rich ember
that's already a thing tho
reef mountain
not in the game itself
rich ember
yes
rich ember
what the fuck do you think the comrose in BFV does sir
reef mountain
nothing
midnight nimbus
there's nothing in there that couldn't be automated
low on health? your soldier should automatically ask for meds
midnight nimbus
squad leader running in the direction of A? A is automatically marked
rich ember
again, another risk of trying to do this shit in public matches with people that aren't your friends.
reef mountain
its not auto marked lol
midnight nimbus
I'm saying objs should be auto marked
reef mountain
jwhat im saying is haveing multible squads linked into 1 command
rich ember
nobody would give a shit about that command
midnight nimbus
commander mode was big dumb
you're playing an RTS where your units don't have to listen to you
reef mountain
not bf4commandert mode
jsay you have a group of buddys running more then 1 squad yes?
rich ember
who the fuck has that many friends
reef mountain
jto link it so the 2/3 squads become 1 unit
midnight nimbus
if i have a group of friends, commander is superfluous
play in an organized setting w multiple squads of friends
rich ember
again
midnight nimbus
everyone should already know what to do
opaque cipher
In Battlefield it’s more effective to run around like a swarm of angry bees
rich ember
who the fuck has that many friends.
midnight nimbus
the squad is superfluous when you can just squad hop
rich ember
no, cause i only had like 3 friends that played battlefield and we all stopped after BF1
reef mountain
im vreating a new group to aculy run like a unit
jcreating
jaghh im too high to spell
rich ember
i don't know how you're fucking up that bad
midnight nimbus
the tactical shit is a meme
honestly
people think tactical has to mean slow
tbh, when playing with friends, VOIP and squad leader becomes even more useless
reef mountain
when i do my squads with peole in discord we steamroll the other teams
midnight nimbus
I don't need to communicate with my friends bc we all have a mutual understanding of what needs to be done
reef mountain
so you let the guy sneak up behind them
midnight nimbus
teamplay mechanics have to exist for the low end, not the high end
need mechanics to allow randoms to create some semblance of coordination
reef mountain
somtimes the text chat they aculy listen to orders in grasndoperations
jgrand operations
rich ember
also the mechanics need to not be shit that can be abused to piss off teammates
reef mountain
jyer if your a 13 year old chinaman/russian/turkish
rich ember
i don't even understand what you're saying at this point
solid hinge
can we not generalize please
reef mountain
and there it is lol
reef mountain
wht i was saying before having the ability to link squads would be a step forward
rich ember
I fail to see how this would be beneficial to most players.
reef mountain
because means the players who aculy want the teamplay have the option to
jand the randoms who sujut wanna do there thing can do there thing
its a option
compact oxide
Is your J key broken?
reef mountain
na i keep hitting j because j is what you hit in bfv to talk lol
compact oxide
reef mountain
i aint slept in 3 days and automaticly hittinng j because iv done non stop bfv
midnight nimbus
ultimate step is to put everyone in the same squad
mmmm
just have the entire team be one squad
why are the 3 randoms in my squad supposed to be more important than the 28 other randoms?
reef mountain
not everyone jsut would help orgonise squads who want to
also make a sqaud yourself with the people who want to to teamplay
rich ember
here's a thought
midnight nimbus
why would you need a squad to do that
reef mountain
jdont need to steal/stick in a random SQUAD]
rich ember
why not do that outside of the game through discord
midnight nimbus
^
rich ember
Why does this need to be an in-game mechanic.
midnight nimbus
just have no squads, friends highlighted in a different color
reef mountain
BUT INGAME LINKIGN A SQAud means when you do your pings and callouts the link sqaud sees it too
rich ember
BUT YOU CAN JUST SAY CALLOUTS IN A DISCORD VOICE CHAT
AND IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME EFFECT
midnight nimbus
yeah who uses in game VOIP lmfao
reef mountain
yer but jsut calling out in discord there not gonna know exsactly where your calling to
rich ember
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK A CALLOUT IS
midnight nimbus
randoms aren't gonna know your call outs well anyways
VOIP isn't that useful outside of your friends anyways
reef mountain
the yellow ping you do only your squad sees that right
midnight nimbus
that's what 3D spotting was made for
reef mountain
spotting is broke thats why im turnign it off in me server lol
midnight nimbus
> paying attention to the squad pings
lmfao
rich ember
I'm also gonna mention this, have you tried being in a discord voice chat with more than like, 5 people.
it's not a great time.
reef mountain
agh kids make things hard to aculy explain because of there egomaniac personalitys
midnight nimbus
any idiot can just ping random shit that means nothing
the ping is useless without voice confirmation
reef mountain
runnign a discord with over 20 people is easyh if you set push to talk for that voice chat
somber spindle
Hm,Battlefield 1 only for 3$ in Origin🤔
rich ember
Here's what i don't understand.
- What's the point of having more than 5 people in a squad, including yourself
- Why does this need to be a mechanic in game
- How would this help anyone but the people who would be setting up a platoon for more team oriented gameplay anyway
rich ember
This answers none of my questions.
reef mountain
have you played squad
midnight nimbus
literally just make the entire team a squad
reef mountain
or seen gameplay of squad
midnight nimbus
these obligatory randoms are no more important than the rest of the randoms
friends don't need to be in the same squad to coordinate with you
BF squads literally just exist for spawn points
rich ember
Not actively, due to my crippling fear of having to speak to other people over voice chat. Anyway, Squad is a very different game than battlefield, and as such, can't really be used as a comparison, because the way squads work in that game would require a reworking of a lot of systems in Battlefield to be replicated.
And also, you're not answering my questions.
can you please just answer the fucking questions.
midnight nimbus
oh man being able to link squads in BF would be so fun and broken
reef mountain
jfuck me i cant spell
rich ember
1. What's the point of having more than 5 people in a squad, including yourself 2. Why does this need to be a mechanic in game 3. How would this help anyone but the people who would be setting up a platoon for more team oriented gameplay anyway
reef mountain
spawn points have nothing to do with it
midnight nimbus
and in BFV, you'd work up to your reinforcements so fast
reef mountain
and each squad gets there own points
midnight nimbus
if it's just for communication
rich ember
i feel like i'm being ignored here.
midnight nimbus
it's almost like previous BFs already solved this problem 🤔🤔🤔
compact oxide
Wait why would we need more than 5 player squads? If you're playing with mates in other squads use comms duh
reef mountain
lol
compact oxide
compact oxide
What isn't fixed by just using comms then?
rich ember
and also this man's complaining that it's hard to explain this "because of there egomaniac personalitys"
when i gave him 3 simple questions to answer
reef mountain
visual comms
rich ember
and he's just ignoring me
compact oxide
I've been in 3 squad comms chats and it's been alright
@reef mountain don't need visual comms if you have vocal ones
Vocal is MUCH better
reef mountain
go your pinned down lost you bearing you use the q ping to say hes over on ping marker
midnight nimbus
VOIP is ass
reef mountain
jthe other squads dont see that
midnight nimbus
especially when you play with friends who aren't native English speakers
or friends you don't play with frequently
this is literally why BF3 used 3D spotting
so you can communicate with people outside of your immediate squad
compact oxide
You wouldn't be playing seriously at that point @midnight nimbus
midnight nimbus
???
reef mountain
so if spotting was removed what then as in a player run server?
compact oxide
Deal with vocal callouts?
midnight nimbus
without spotting, BF turns into your zero awareness zergfest
where no one knows what's going on
reef mountain
jbut ya got no map jsut voice and visual markers you can set
compact oxide
Which explain where someone is better than pressing q to mark a spot randomly
midnight nimbus
the ping system is really stupid
compact oxide
When your squad mates have no idea what you mean by the ping
reef mountain
its better then the press q and light up half the enemey team
midnight nimbus
it was never intended to be a spotting substitute
BF1 3D spotting was perfectly fine
compact oxide
Exactly
midnight nimbus
lower acceptance angle than BF4
if my squadmate pings an MMG user, wtf am i supposed to do?
reef mountain
but for the people who dont play bf1/bf4 with spotting like hardcore servers without the 200% damage
midnight nimbus
idk whether he just pinged nothing
or if I'm supposed to rush here
or avoid this
it's useless information
reef mountain
but in the voice chat you say on my ping marker with a number on the marker
compact oxide
@reef mountain then you're playing the game in a way that's not what was designed in the first place
reef mountain
jto tell you whos marker
so trying to teamplay the game is not the way to play it?
midnight nimbus
totally eliminates the false positive /s
compact oxide
So you still need VoIP with pings then 
midnight nimbus
my point exactly
reef mountain
i was not talking about not having voice
rich ember
Trying to teamplay the game is not the way to play it
Completely forgetting the hardcore servers with 200% damage bit
midnight nimbus
but you still need dependable teammates who know your callouts
reef mountain
ji was saying in vopice chat useing them ping systems with the linked squads to see the pings too
compact oxide
Trying to play hardcore servers in bf1/BF4 isn't how the game was designed
midnight nimbus
meanwhile trying to teamplay with randoms is useless with the ping system
rich ember
Look, if you're high, you should just stop trying to have a discussion.
Wait till you're sober, dammit.
fast gyro
I use Discord to talk with friends when I play G A M E S
prime pine
Is he seriously under the influence
rich ember
He claimed to be.
and considering his lapses in reasoning, i'm inclined to believe him.
prime pine
Right.
midnight nimbus
anti 3D spotters begone
fast gyro
Bruh wtf
reef mountain
i give up yanks never see the bigger picture
reef mountain
might aswell the state bfv is in atm
rich ember
go do that then.
midnight nimbus
nothing wrong with that, I've abandoned BFV for better games too
prime pine
Custom servers allow... Custom servers and rules. Being honest. If i could. I would set my server for unlimited health regen.
midnight nimbus
oof if that's even an option
prime pine
Hopefully it will
Cause FUCK limited health regen. It feels more unfair than limited ammo. But whatever.
midnight nimbus
limited health regen is boomer shit
gunfights being decided more by how many gunfights you've previously taken vs how good you are at the gunfight 
prime pine
Play doom and shit if you dont want health regen. For battlefield it doesn't work.
Yeah.
midnight nimbus
as if we need to discourage the BF community to take even less risks
prime pine
I cna hold my own but i can only carry so much.
They cripple us to force other people to help us... When half of the community is just a bunch of fucking idiots and don't even do their supposed role.
midnight nimbus
you can't help other people until you help yourself
this is why forced teamwork is such a shit meme
can't focus on helping randos if you're struggling to even keep yourself alive
hoary condor
I'm so good at gun fights the enemy can't see me with my boys at the other end of the map in a bush 
prime pine
I main support soooo
compact oxide
It's the dad gamers 
prime pine
I find ways to deal with the horrible health regen
hoary condor
hoary condor
@rich ember Removing the HUD promotes more teamplay in a public multiplayer match
rich ember
Also, SGT's public opinion since this discussion started
compact oxide
It's like that new COD where everyone is ranting about the Minimap being removed
prime pine
Even better; Give us the option to rearrange our HUD so it isnt cluttered garbage.
midnight nimbus
forced teamwork just stifles creativity in higher forms of teamwork
also no minimap in MW is garbage
rich ember
except the minimap is still there, it just shows up when you get a UAV
prime pine
I always have my inventory open ironically.
midnight nimbus
prolly the worst thing ab the game
compact oxide
@rich ember yup
midnight nimbus
even though i think it'll be very good as a whole
compact oxide
Plus the compass shows the info the Minimap did anyway
midnight nimbus
makes it too hard for new players to navigate the map properly
rich ember
so wait what's the problem with this again
compact oxide
There is none
midnight nimbus
and minimap helps you figure out where your teammates are
so you can position yourself more accordingly
the teammate outline solution is fine in 5v5
compact oxide
But it doesn't stop the angry YouTube crowd from making a stink
midnight nimbus
but gonna be a mess at higher player counts
minimap is a staple of FPS for a good reason
prime pine
Oh wow the lever pipe was in a promotional image
rich ember
what
prime pine
"Change character" also sounds like loadouts.
Just a general question.
Did the alpha/beta feel any different in atmosphere for you guys?
rich ember
the footage i saw of it didn't look significantly different
compact oxide
It felt better
solid hinge
compact oxide
Alpha had the semi autos on medic and although I had 350ping the whole time it was so damn fun
It's true tho
Screw <insert company here> for changing <insert game here>
rich ember
@solid hinge eh, sometimes the annoyance is justified
prime pine
I personally dont mind changes as long as they dont fuck with things as much
Take planes how fucking shit they handle.
warm atlas
Squad revives>>>>>
compact oxide
Squad revives are alright
vague marsh
Anyone know how to do perspective shots in bfv for a cinematic?
compact oxide
I'm happy for them to be in other games if they're much longer
warm atlas
Squad Revives are IMO the best change in BFV
And hope they become a staple moving forward
compact oxide
Probs yeah
compact oxide
Ehhh
warm atlas
I don’t mind it either.
compact oxide
You don't need them without attrition
prime pine
We wouldnt need health stations
We would need ammo stations more like it. Cause you cant regenerate ammo.
compact oxide
If you started with 20 clips of ammo then no you still don't need stations
warm atlas
Yeee
compact oxide
BF1 was great for OMA
warm atlas
It was.
prime pine
Just hate being entirely out of ammo
compact oxide
So much fun to own peeps with like an RSC
prime pine
Cause some asshole didnt drop their ammo box
solid hinge
warm atlas
I rush very hard and only ever really play conquest. So ammo stations are just everywhere.
polar totem
That’s not how that meme works
compact oxide
Honestly it wasn't too much of an issue in BF1 with the ammo you had
prime pine
Same i rush a lot as a support.
prime pine
Ammo stations should at least carry across
polar totem
Scout without a scope, hell yeah
warm atlas
I can’t snipe for shit for some reason unless I’m using iron sights.
compact oxide
MMG users 🚮
warm atlas
But the guns are so cool
prime pine
Ah fuck i gotta get my VGO, M1922 and s2 200 tags.
Fucking hate playing with mmgs. I really really do.
compact oxide
Recon in bfv should only be played with the ZH or 1906 imo
rich ember
i mostly sniped from that raised area near C on Ballroom Blitz because i was a trash scout player
warm atlas
I think I’m gonna work on getting the VGO gold soon
compact oxide
@rich ember oh god 
prime pine
Someone i knew argued that self loaders shouldn't eb a thing.
warm atlas
Ballroom Blitz started out as one of my favorite maps but deteriorated slowly because of those wall campers.
rich ember
@prime pine i'd argue that guy you know shouldn't be a thing.
compact oxide
I loved quickswapping with the Ross infantry point blank
prime pine
"If you're a recon you should use snipers, not self loaders"
compact oxide
But you can't go that in BFV
rich ember
I never used the Ross, because when i was playing BF1 the Ross wasn't in the game.
And i didn't have the DLC.
compact oxide
Oh rip
prime pine
Ross is good in bf5
warm atlas
I don’t like how the straight pull rifles don’t let you cycle while you’re ADS if you have a scope on in V
compact oxide
1903 experimental?
prime pine
I liked the lebel model 1886
rich ember
@warm atlas yeah for some reason putting on a scope changes how the gun works
compact oxide
Actually real good gun the 1903 experimental
rich ember
@compact oxide nah
warm atlas
1903 was pretty damn good post patch
rich ember
not the experimental
compact oxide
Pre patch was good too
warm atlas
It took a lot of bullets to kill someone though
prime pine
Its practically like the selbstlader 1906
In the sense of
The 1906 used the same firing mechanism of the luger
While firing alrger rounds
compact oxide
1906 in BF1 was actually my fav gun
warm atlas
The real OG semi was the General Liu storm
prime pine
While the experimental springfield was a rifle that fires pistol rounds.
FARQUHAR HILL BOIIIIII
The farquad rifle was one of the coolest guns i thought in bf1.
prime pine
Its an incredible spam rifle
warm atlas
‘Tis indeed
prime pine
Selbstlader 1916 was awesome as well... But no weapon in bf1 felt comfortable enough.
compact oxide
prime pine
Its my most used medic rifle
compact oxide
Farquhar hill optical 
rich ember
I tried playing BF1 recently but it just ran like shit on my newer PC
so I just dropped it. Didn’t find it that fun anyway.
rich ember
@compact oxide I mean I’d probably rank DUSK above any battlefield game but that’s just me.
warm atlas
I can’t post pictures yet anyway. 
rich ember
Maybe if you bother the mods enough they’ll let you post pictures
warm atlas
Damn. Props for the FG
prime pine
Fg42 : D
compact oxide
warm atlas
I don’t like to bother. I mod the MC discord I know how annoying it can be. @rich ember
prime pine
Kek manic
warm atlas
MP34 love!
rich ember
@compact oxide botherbotherbother
compact oxide
I'll bother you in the other discord
rich ember
K
compact oxide
warm atlas
Feel free. Lol
compact oxide
@warm atlas but yeah, MP34 is best SMG
compact oxide
That's true
I just like that it's the longest range SMG
Plus super dooper accurate and controlled
warm atlas
ZK is close second
tight tusk
20 round mag tommy is good for smaller modes
solid hinge
Yak mp34
compact oxide
That's true, slow ZK is good too but I don't use the bipod enough and it has more drop-off
compact oxide
Wtf
tight tusk
the main thing i dislike about the mp34 is the sound it makes when shooting
just sounds unsatisfying to shoot
compact oxide
It's German?
warm atlas
I love the irons on the ZK
compact oxide
It's the sexiest MP34 by far
gloomy kraken
I like the mp34 because of the bayonet.
compact oxide
@solid hinge should try looking online, it's defs interwar German
Also the mp34 irons are actually pretty great, far better than the EMP
solid hinge
Well thats weird, idk where I got my source for chinese
compact oxide
Absolutely no clue
gloomy kraken
I tought ZH was Polish.
warm atlas
I only gots 300 kills with the MP34 but I use a lotta different guns. Have 20 over 200 kills
gloomy kraken
Developed in Czechoslovakia and used by Chinese
compact oxide
Yup
solid hinge
Yeah thats right
compact oxide
It's a Czech gun
solid hinge
Yeah
compact oxide
@warm atlas yeah Imgur links is exactly what you can do without embed perms 👍
warm atlas
Sweet beans.
warm atlas
Yeahhhh. I MMG a lot.
I rush with them though. I keep my SPM high
High as I can anyway
Battlefield tracker doesn’t let you check BF1 stats does it
compact oxide
Yeah It does?
solid hinge
Camping with the tank in the back is so much
Especially at the tank stations
Easy kills
solid hinge
^
stoic breach
I was playing as a Pz4 and this dude on my team drove a Tiger
warm atlas
That spot between A & B on Rotterdam is the worst
Damn near impossible to kill a tank when it’s like that
stoic breach
And we had like 15 dudes rush us and we racked up a nice streak
prime pine
During fortress there was this guy bombing the fuck out of me when i was in my churchill mkvii.
I dont know how
warm atlas
Had a nice 29-0 game with the Panzer 38t on Devastation last night.
prime pine
But planting myself near the station and abusing the instant repair had me be survive a good 9 rockets and sticky explosives and still be operational.
My best was 80-0 with the churchill mkvii.
warm atlas
prime pine
Aerodrome breakthrough fucking love those howitsers.
warm atlas
47-0 was my best ever game in a tank and that was with the light tank on Suez in BF1
hoary condor
tanks unless you are on Aerodrome are easy to catch
warm atlas
I did like the St. Chamond too
prime pine
Never really liked the tanks too much as i said.
warm atlas
I would use the MKV a lot because IMO it’s the coolest looking tank ever
prime pine
Yeah the st chamond felt new at least.
I had raze and i commander the squad package kit for the mark 5. That was good fun.
Telling him which side to go kek.
"Guy on our left/right"
warm atlas
It can be really good with gunners and communication
prime pine
Exactly. Which is why i wanted to play it.
gloomy kraken
Yesterday i killed a Tiger 1 with my Valentine by circeling around it he only got two Heat-t rounds on me.
gloomy kraken
But has slow reload
warm atlas
That why I always get rocked by tigers?
prime pine
Faster than HESH.
gloomy kraken
But Yeah they pack a punch
prime pine
Tiger is a more aggressive heavy tank. Believe it or not.
A tiger has a 1.5X faster reload than the churchill.
solid hinge
Churchill is such a boring tank as well
warm atlas
It does have a pretty weak ass though
solid hinge
Goes for all british tanks tbh
prime pine
The churchill has the most armour of all the heavy tanks.
gloomy kraken
Well Churchill does more damage with Its howitzer and hesh
prime pine
Its my favourite tank. The heavy churchill.
Yeah. Exactly marse.
More consistent damage output for less range and slower reloads
solid hinge
depends where you hit
prime pine
I just stated the hits!
solid hinge
if you hit the turret ring and the tiger doesn't have the turret ring upgrade it can do 65
and break stuff
prime pine
To the engine i think you do 10 more damage?
solid hinge
yeah more with the hesh
prime pine
The hell. My 95Mm's have never done that much damage.
prime pine
Its consistent at least.
solid hinge
but the standard round placed well at close range can do a tiger in 2-3 shots
gloomy kraken
The turret ring is the weakness point if Tiger if you can get to Its back.
And the turret ring is 360°...
prime pine
No matter where you hit you'll always deal 40 damage... Usually a good 3-5HKO
I dunno.
solid hinge
if only the brits had S mines
gloomy kraken
And zimmerit?
prime pine
Ive been getting 5 HKO's as of late and its getting really annoying.
solid hinge
rather s mines than zimmer
prime pine
Zimmerit is forced anyways
stoic breach
When you gotta take Zimmerit to get to the flares and s mines on the Pz4
gloomy kraken
True, but when the Panzerknacker gets added in 2 years zimmerit can be valuable.
stoic breach
Necessary sacrifice
solid hinge
tho lately I have been loading heat rounds for the tiger but they have such a small kill box
prime pine
Hitting a churchill's ass with the HEAT rounds can do 87 damage...
I swear im not bullshitting. I was surprised.
gloomy kraken
Now Thats alot of damage
prime pine
You screwed it up!
solid hinge
last night sucked though, with so many noobs taking tanks i was forced to play PZ 4 and valentine .. spammed the tank spawn so much I broke a mouse
solid hinge
yeah .. gamer edition mouses .. what a rip off
just bought a cheap genius wireless now
prime pine
May as well get a bunch of mouses in bulk
hoary condor
Only thing "Gamer" about mouse and keyboard are how they look at what colours they have 
undone venture
Im not finding any servers, can someone help?
solid hinge
try using your advanced search
the server browser
make sure you have the filters set correctly
more than likely the servers are full
wild jacinth
If you guys watch at the 3:00 mark this is what i was talking about a week ago when i shot a team that couldnt see me for a long time
tacit kelp
On Gamescon youtubers will be able to play on Al Sundan Conquest 😆
gloomy kraken
Just like on E3
hoary condor
Hope it's not buggy for them
echo glen
Let's see them content 
stiff sky
MASSSSSSIVE bug. cant play campain . once i get to bf 109. my character just keeps bailing out automatically. and keep seeing out of bounds.
even tho i am not even flying the plane cus i cant
computer wont let me
echo glen
Maybe you're not supposed to board the plane
stiff sky
its just the intro to bf 5 thing man. it changes to various phases of the war
stiff sky
but wont let me do anything. and bails out constantly. whe n i get to the planes. here the stay in formation message
i tried restarting my pc that didnt work. bugged multiplay and hackers so often that its just like its another class people can play as is one thing. not having a playable single player. wtf
bugs are getting better in ulti player i will say that much but still hackers remain in every server i play in
solid hinge
Question for Battlefield 1.
In the middle of the match, I want to check the scoreboard/ leaderboard/ player list (you know the one with the player's names and their scores displayed next to it), which button do I press?
wild jacinth
Man wish someone would of commented on my video ) :
echo glen
@solid hinge What platform?
solid hinge
ps4
echo glen
The options menu, then look for scoreboard
solid hinge
Okay
Ill try that
Thanks
Also, what's the difference between
a shock operation and a normal operation?
@echo glen
echo glen
Shock is just fast operations
Like it has less sectors I think or reduced reinforcements
I forgot
solid hinge
yeah but not when you've seen them 69 times
echo glen
I see
warm atlas
Shock Ops is basically just Breakthrough in BFV. Only difference is in shock Ops you had 2 pushes instead of one
warm atlas
Can’t trust the blueberries
feral grotto
i wish it was only them
tacit kelp
Never trust 1 rule of BF
feral grotto
my squad mates all throughout my games today.. just morons
first sector of arras as defense.. im with 13k points... the second guy after me 5k...
tacit kelp
Sometimes I think they are IA
feral grotto
what are you doing team?..
im capping back the flags by myself..
lucky the tanks were camping
warm atlas
Nothing is worse than having a whole team sitting on one flag in conquest when flanks are open and you’re the only one trying to cap points
stoic breach
E and B are the best flags
Thats why the whole team sits there
Like yeah you can make a fun push from B to E or you could literally go capture a swamp
stiff sky
HOLY SH*T this weeks tow. has encouriged utra potatoe gameplay
noobs using tanks that never leave the spawn. planes that never kill anything.
havnt had a single game with out brain dead players
tanks just stay in one play and mow down the spawns . wich for some reason have no cover mostly
its like i am playing with 5 year olds
fervent knot
Ok didnt know five year olds could do that
wild jacinth
Why do tanks have to move up if they dont want to
No one corridinates an attack properly in bfv
You need infantry walking with the tanks if you want them to survive
Blitz krieg
Otherwise one asa hole panzerfaust tank and that guy has to wait 3 to 4 minutes for another tank
solid hinge
cause you can't do anything about long range tanks
they're weak up close and there's no counter to them at range
bad balancing
solid hinge
only thing that can hurt another tank beyond like 75 metres is another tank
wild jacinth
Cant wait till we get the rocket launcher anti tank thingies.
Thats onky think i dont like bout bfv no coordination i wish someone would be like ok tank follow us we'll have like 2 squads walking with you and then we'll take objective and you cover us or whateva. This is why i want to buys post scriptum so badly.
stiff sky
@wild jacinth think you need to start laying with people man
wild jacinth
@_@?
topaz dome
are the acpr rounds for the boys any good?
stiff sky
@wild jacinth you mean anti air launcher. wich hopefully will be support class gadget
echo glen
Boys ain't do nothing against Tanks whether or without APCR @north ravine
stiff sky
@topaz dome yeah. if you know were to shoot
wild jacinth
No that rocket launcher from waw
stiff sky
@echo glen aim then
wild jacinth
The germans used
north ravine
@echo glen wtf mate
solid hinge
APCR boosts damage slightly, the main advantage of it is that it destroys buildings and fortifications
north ravine
why did ping me
stiff sky
no just aim for engine or flat surfaces
solid hinge
if you have APCR you can shoot a house and it will blow up
wild jacinth
Im still waiting for flame grenade to take out a tanks engine or have a soldier come out of his tank to extinguish the flames.
But thatll probably never happen the extinguish part
echo glen
Super sorry about that Freeze
stiff sky
@solid hinge yeah pretty much. but if you get your whole sqaud to use it. no vehicle is safe
@wild jacinth nope
wild jacinth
Hopefully
stiff sky
yeah it wont tho
stiff sky
i want there to be no hackers but you know what its been months and f*ck all has happend
stiff sky
pubg was hyped ?
wild jacinth
Yeah when every new and old streamer was streaming it
Remember that back in late 2017
solid hinge
Do people even play firestorm
I heard BF V got alot of sales since they released firestorm
amber notch
Probably not
fervent knot
Why cant i unequip my emblem?
gray saffron
are you in a platoon?
fervent knot
no
hoary condor
should do, yes
fervent knot
So i created one using the companion website for bf1 equipped it deleted it restarted bfv and its gone from my weapon. So got it removed
hoary condor
F
wild jacinth
I still play feer sturm
hoary condor
same
bronze grotto
the grind is finally over 
gray saffron
you got rank 40?
solid hinge
What tow rank are you guys at?
sweet fulcrum
40
solid hinge
32
solid hinge
I wish the armory is bigger
strange dome
spend more boins aye? jk
solid hinge
I only spend boins on Elites 😉
strange dome
you sure you dont want a pink sten for 10k boins?
strange dome
more chance of getting that pink then more weapons at the moment 😒
hoary condor
i can't remember what ToW rank i'm on
solid hinge
Lol
I got to 30 today
I saw people with the nachtigall outfit a day after this chapter started 😭
Hah
Did you feel cringe?
Damn right
I feel the same way every time I see an elite
Hang on
You want to see my company?
Nope
Or take a look at your pfp
PINK
Pink tiger camo
reef mountain
keep getting disconected when i get a kill on a suspected hacker lol
hoary condor
i haven't played since saturday i raged so much so didn't bother
itching to get on it
solid hinge
I want to play bf5 but everytime im about to I always question if I really want to log on and play the ten thousandth game on hamada
Then I go and play some other game thats fun
Your hacker must be a troll
reef mountain
go to server list and find oen that aint hamada
solid hinge
Could be any map
The maps are so shite and boring to play
Even rotterdam and devastation?
reef mountain
murcurey or however you spell it is best one so far
solid hinge
Mercury
reef mountain
jyer
solid hinge
Nope
Never been a fan of rotterdam or devastation
You don’t like urban maps?
I think their design is pretty mediocre
I love urban maps
Those are just shit imo
reef mountain
i find thats better then all the maps the released just dont understadn where the fuck is our grand operations for it
solid hinge
K
Like name any urban map from previous games and theyre much better
Yeah i’m still waiting on the new grand ops
Amiens
Marita is probably the closest to the good bf urban maps
Amiens is love
reef mountain
they release the 2 maps thats for grand operations but no grand operations ....
lookign forward to the lies they gonna say in gamescom
solid hinge
Same
What are they gonna promise this time
Im still betting on a teaser for battlefield 2020
Please let it be a modern or cold war bf
reef mountain
it will be bfbc3
solid hinge
Imagine operarions in vietnam
solid hinge
I hope its not bfbc3
I honestly just want bf4 with the fortifications and movement changes from bf5
Vietnam would be hella lit as well though
Maybe the korean war
reef mountain
for me i found bf4 was clunky
solid hinge
Thatd be pretty cool too
solid hinge
😳
reef mountain
but i did liek the bad company feel so i hope its bad company the next chapter
reef mountain
hey guys we decided to ditch bfv and move on tot he next game thats still in early acsess and selling it to you for £100 standard copy
solid hinge
We will see a teaser next your around may-june
reef mountain
we will deliver false promises unfinnished content and scilence from the development team and deney anything is wrong if you want to opt out of the boin system that will cost you another £300
thats the sales pitch lol
reef mountain
look hwo fast they moved on from hardline lol
solid hinge
As more time goes on and nothings happening it makes more and more sense
strange dome
its EA decision. they drop funding. not all but only give them some to keep a small team going
reef mountain
hardline is like the forgotten kid put up for adoption lol
solid hinge
they wont tease another battlefield yet probably
gray saffron
mostly cause everyone is so negative ;D
prime pine
There'll always be negativity but compared to the other battlefield games its just even worse
solid hinge
^
strange dome
we getting some patch notes today it looks like.
gray saffron
i think it's just an announcement for the patchnotes. they usually release the notes the day before the patch drops. i think patches usually release on tuesday or thursday
tacit kelp
Thursday
gray saffron
it would be a confirmation that it comes next week yes.
north flint
Anyone had an issue finding a game yesterday on PC?
PC-NA
From 11 AM- 1230 PM I found nothing. I was being entered in empty lobbies.
hoary condor
Try using the advanced search
north flint
Thanks, I tried that and there was 3 full games nothing more.
Really confused so I decided to go to the gym
urban mural
Has there been any more information on Private Games?
hoary condor
only gym i go to is Pokemon Go
short pecan
i think private games are coming on october or something
short pecan
also yeah the game is pretty dead especially in the morning
strange dome
no alaskan
north flint
I think maybe since schools started and people are working the servers would not have as much
strange dome
its not been confirmed. yet
north flint
Pokemon Go is fun.
strange dome
a CM dodge that question heavy a few days ago
urban mural
Yes it has lol
prime pine
Huh. Thought the panther was a heavy tank.
urban mural
No
Medium technically
Until it’s transmission broke
Then it was a stationary gun
short pecan
yeah the panther was heavier than some allied heavy tanks despite being a medium tnak
strange dome
was the panther taller than the tiger 1?
stiff sky
looked up more on the panzerbuchse. apparently the ammo is only going to be 10 rounds . when the gun yhad 20 rounds on it. in storage containers. if its at 10 rounds plus one in the chamber. it needs to be massily powerful.
gray glade
if it is actually released 😄
topaz plume
so i did my mission to unlock gold and it says i did it and even completed it
but i didnt get my gold part
untold cliff
untold cliff
play another game and it will appear in ur armory @topaz plume
sometimes it just don’t load
topaz plume
REALLY! THANK YOU!
untold cliff
yw bro
untold cliff
If that don’t work, again, it’s a loading issue so restarting the game is also a fix
solid hinge
the trailer looked so good
fast forward to today, we're missing a map and it's been shitty cosmetics for like a month straight
solid hinge
who needs bottules when you have sick KNIVES that do 25 damage per hit
untold cliff
because bottle
solid hinge
does the bottle have a SICK waterproof skin
untold cliff
shit your right
also the waterproof skin is a bit wonky on the STG
you can equip barrel skins over the waterproof barrel because the wrap is apart of a different section of the gun
The receiver
so u can equip the night owl hand guard and have the barrel wrap at the same time
xtra thicc barrel
stiff sky
@solid hinge no one give a sh*t about the cosmetics in the tow weekly challenges all they want is the chapter xp for the last skins in the tow
untold cliff
^
solid hinge
i want them too
untold cliff
nachtigal is dope
solid hinge
nightingale skin looks nice
stiff sky
we see another knife next week
untold cliff
The French one isn’t bad either
solid hinge
but i'll be damned if i grind this game again lol
with all the bugs, missing content and crappy weekly challenges
untold cliff
honestly I’m waiting for metro
steady jacinth
is that normal that this game lags a lot
stiff sky
i am here for the at rifles and the m1919
stiff sky
and hopefully the m2hb on top of the shermans
stiff sky
@untold cliff lol so you one of tho who be like i going to stb this sniper and then sniper turns around and one shots got. thanks for the killz
untold cliff
actually I have this amazing thing
called ducking
when I press the control key they miss and I still get to beat them to death or stab them
stiff sky
@untold cliff even more funny doge sniper bullet get hit by tank cannon XD
untold cliff
either that or I crouch sprint / walk behind them and get them then
where did the tank come from
solid hinge
Allied outfits are lame tbh
untold cliff
honestly I want a pilot outfit for the allies
stiff sky
i play conquest cus this is battlefield not cod
untold cliff
full ass flight suit
solid hinge
Honestely I want to customize my tanker and pilot
untold cliff
same here
solid hinge
I’ve the german pilot outfit but can’t use it on my pilot
untold cliff
F
stiff sky
honestly i want hack free bf 5 but you know what ...........
its been months
still f*ck all has happened
solid hinge
I’m on ps4 so 🤷♂️
untold cliff
it ain’t called hacking it’s called paying 30 extra dollars for a crutch
The modded players on PC aren’t as frequent as they used to be
stiff sky
might start calling it the hacking class. cus they are every were just like another class people can use
untold cliff
just a lot of people calling each other hackers when they get salty
oof
I remember some dude tried to report me and my friend upwards of 9 times with his squad because we were rolling them on marita
stiff sky
no one shoting with alll weapons . aimbot. wall hack. seen alot of the spot everyone for the team hack. not sure what to call it. its like when sector is taken and the targets appear above enemies
and also seen bomb hacks as well
strange dome
to after melees and skins we get a AT sniper rifle.
untold cliff
also TTK for headshots is really fast so idk what ur on about
untold cliff
That’s why people usually fire multiple b
multiple snipers per team
gotta look up and shoot the red ones
stiff sky
so no flare in sky differant icon and whole map you think its a flare
untold cliff
then that’s just someone fucking around with the recon spotting scope
it’s op if you just flick around from a high place
sweet fulcrum
bullet velocity: mach 4 bullet drag: minimum
bullet drop: non existent yeah, it's sniper time
stiff sky
nope. not that icon. its literally a crosshair
untold cliff
now it sounds like your the hacker because I’ve run into my fair share and none of them did that
stiff sky
i have seen vids on it too. its a hack
untold cliff
hackers do it so only they win, not help their own team bruski
stiff sky
no. they still win. and also hwo do you know who is hacking if everyone gets kills constantly. cus they know where everyone is. i think thats why
stiff sky
yeah. instant kill with a melle weapon while in an armoured car.
other side of the map