battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

No

[midnight nimbus]

idiots in BFV don't realize

you need to kill everyone

BEFORE YOU REVIVE

[raven solstice]

they would be way too versitile then

[midnight nimbus]

AR medic is fine

when LMGs and SARs are better in pretty much every way

[stoic breach]

They should be versatile

[raven solstice]

stg=+medic=unkillable

[stoic breach]

Why wouldnt you want a versatile medic

[midnight nimbus]

and SMGs are better than ARs at median engagement ranges

[coarse thunder]

Insta unlimited healing bullshit all range class except extreme long distances

Very balanced

[raven solstice]

medics are supposed to be in the shit reviving, an assault rifle doesnt promote that, but a shotgun does

[stoic breach]

ARs dont even have that much range

[solid hinge]

medics are the last class that need any buffing

[midnight nimbus]

now you have insta unlimited heal CQB monster that no one wants to play on larger maps

[raven solstice]

what class yall think the m1 garand is gonna be in?

[solid hinge]

exactly

[raven solstice]

i think recon

[midnight nimbus]

AR + SAR medic increases the engineerfield meta of past games

[steel agate]

Assault

[solid hinge]

Assault

[midnight nimbus]

where everyone just wants to run assault/engi on big maps bc they don't wanna be useless against vehicles

[raven solstice]

garand is 8 shots and heavy hitting, i expect the recon for those reasons, along with the fact that they sniped with them

[coarse thunder]

They could have a variant for both

[raven solstice]

good point

[midnight nimbus]

watch the M1 Garand never come 😂

[raven solstice]

how would they balance it tho

[midnight nimbus]

gun balance is the ez part

[coarse thunder]

Like the realistic but odd choice to have two volkssturmgewehrs

[raven solstice]

it would be 2-3 shots on recon and 4-5 on assult

[midnight nimbus]

the one thing DICE largely hasn't messed up

[stoic breach]

4-5 shots for the Garand

[midnight nimbus]

> 4-5 BTK M1 Garand
lmfaooooooo

[stoic breach]

Worse than M1A1

[midnight nimbus]

so an 8 round M1A1 Carbine

[raven solstice]

thats why i think recon

[coarse thunder]

It would 3 tap most likely, drop to 4 tap at longer tanges

[midnight nimbus]

nah 3-3 BTK 360 RPM on assault would be fine

[raven solstice]

i dont think it would work for the assaults balance

[midnight nimbus]

it's a better G43 with a worse reload that way

[raven solstice]

less shots tho

by 2

or 3 if you use the mag

[stoic breach]

If it had less vertical spread it would be great

Wouldnt have to go through the extra control effort

[raven solstice]

idk, i cant see the m1 garand in any class but medic

[coarse thunder]

Unless they make the reload have the speed of one non detach mag of the g43 then it's up

[raven solstice]

recon*

[coarse thunder]

Because g43 loads normally from 2 stripper clips, so they'd have to make the reload cod ww2 speed for it to be balanced

[stoic breach]

2BTK Garand wouldnt be as fun to use

[midnight nimbus]

yeah B1944/CoD style M1 is fun

fast RoF, dump the entire mag

throw in a new clip

[raven solstice]

i think it should be similar to the model 8 in stats if its a recon gun

2 shots close to med, and 3 at far

real question is, when is the adolph elite coming to the armory?

the only elite id buy

just for the meme

[coarse thunder]

Never hopefully

[raven solstice]

that sucks

[coarse thunder]

Don't need to see the phyiscal proof of neo nazis and wehrbs plaguing this game

[solid hinge]

@midnight nimbus how many hours do you have played bfv?

[raven solstice]

a ww2 game without nazis and adolph, might as well be a fictional war

[coarse thunder]

Well we know it has nazis

[midnight nimbus]

8 days worth @solid hinge

[coarse thunder]

Does a game really degrade people's intelligence of the most popular event in history that much

[midnight nimbus]

like a bit under 200h

[coarse thunder]

Oh wait hoi iv exists

[solid hinge]

Lol

[raven solstice]

most popular event is history is when lil pump dropped his first song

[midnight nimbus]

plenty to do everything I wanted to do in BFV

200h of gaming for $0

epic deal

[raven solstice]

i got bf1 premium for free

bf1 and premium actually

[midnight nimbus]

it takes like 2-3hrs to get really good with any BFV vehicle

and guns are piss easy to use

epic S K I L L curve

[raven solstice]

only skillful weapons are bolt actions and the liberator

any sar slr auto gun is ez mode

[midnight nimbus]

yeah all the good guns are ez to use

[raven solstice]

exactly

[midnight nimbus]

not gonna invest my time in memes

[raven solstice]

but people still go negative with the stg LMAOOOO

[midnight nimbus]

if I'm gonna let my team down, there's better ways to do it than sniping

[raven solstice]

like using an mmg?

[midnight nimbus]

no like griefing

[raven solstice]

best way to let the team down is using a tank from spawn

[midnight nimbus]

the only thing I'd really wanna play BFV for now is Ju88 but the game doesn't run

so 🤷🏼‍♀️

[solid hinge]

200h of gaming for $0 lol

This guy 😂😂😂

What are you trying to say with that? 🤣

[raven solstice]

man stole his homies disc

[coarse thunder]

I got it for $30 and I use my friend's psn account because he can be arsed to pay the annual fee

[raven solstice]

damn, they still do that anual fee bullshit?

what a scam

[midnight nimbus]

trying to say i should be playing more than 8d of BFV? 🥴

[topaz dome]

having the option for it is ok, basic is $30 for the year and includes bfv

[raven solstice]

who here hit max level in the first week they got the game

✋

[topaz dome]

maybe the second week, school you know 😦

[raven solstice]

gaves been out for some time now

games*

[coarse thunder]

Just got arsed enough to get max rank in recon a few weeks back

Wack ass Union Jack and Canis Horiblis cosmetics as my reward 🤢

[prime pine]

Ive played bf5 for 650 hours / 27 days.

Kek

[raven solstice]

canis horiblis is ugly

union jack is ok

[prime pine]

I got all my classes to rank 20 at the first two months.... Holy medic has a bad headpiece but the torso isnt too bad.

Maybe first month? Cant remember haha.

[coarse thunder]

The recon cosmetics are objectively the only bad cosmetics for class unlocks

[raven solstice]

i honestly dont even remember what clas got what outfits tbh, its been so long

ik the supprt and assaults but thats it

[coarse thunder]

Like there is literally nothing that redeems the Union Jack, the Canis Horiblis has some ability as a tanker cosmetic

[raven solstice]

but guess what you cant do to tankers

customize them!

[coarse thunder]

Exactly

[raven solstice]

whats that one pilot cap called?

the leather one

[coarse thunder]

Which one

The Jagdflieger?

[raven solstice]

i think so

[coarse thunder]

Is that the one without the face mask

[raven solstice]

idk its a typical pilots cap

yes

it would be perfect for the pilots but guess what you cant do

[coarse thunder]

I think it looks ok but personallt I wouldn't have my company wear it

[raven solstice]

i would only use it on pilots

[coarse thunder]

Ye but even then

[raven solstice]

better than a brody in a plane

[coarse thunder]

I'm waiting for more cheap and tow cosmetics to stem me along

Like the common wanderer set looks really good even by itself

[raven solstice]

we need rebel outfits

cant wait for the BAR

and the m1a1 tommy

[coarse thunder]

People mix and match to make resistance outfits that look good. Mainly french resistance

[compact oxide]

When you have to depend on cosmetics to keep you playing

[raven solstice]

french are pussies tho, not like they did anything

[coarse thunder]

Basically since I play once a week lol

[compact oxide]

Exactly

It's a sad state of the game

[raven solstice]

frances flag may as well be all white tbh

[coarse thunder]

Can't tell if you're memeing or not

[raven solstice]

im not

2 weeks for germany to plow thru it

pathetic

[coarse thunder]

4 years of getting bombarded and attacked by Germany, who already took a huge chunk of your territory and left the rest a wasteland

[solid hinge]

bit of a stretch to say that professor, the french made the same mistake the british did, they were reasy to fight ww1 again not ww2, the difference is the english had the channel

in reality none of the british tanks were anywhere near as good as a panzer III or IV

[coarse thunder]

Plus heavy miscommunication between the allies so that the french didn't know the brits were being evacuated while it was happening

[solid hinge]

the valentine in RL was garbage, the russians laughed when they got them

[tribal cairn]

Keep in mind that the French focused their defenses on the Maginot line

The Germans simply went around

[raven solstice]

so youre saying they stupid too?

[solid hinge]

yep

[tribal cairn]

No,

They were expecting different warfare

[coarse thunder]

The Maginot line was supposed to stretch into belgium but then international politics happened

Such pussies that most young men came home in caskets or hospital beds

[raven solstice]

everyone who thinks i should go slam some vodka say i

[tribal cairn]

Also, I guess there's not much help when your being invaded by an entire nation that actually hates your guts. Cough Treaty of Versailles Cough

[raven solstice]

i

i

i

@tribal cairn is your pic stan lee, i cant see it too well

[tribal cairn]

Yes, it is.

[raven solstice]

nice

i just watched into the spiderverse on 700ug of acid friday night

[coarse thunder]

I'd blame it more on the Weimar govt's irresponsibility and seemng lack of knowledge of world economics

[raven solstice]

shit was lit

[solid hinge]

most of the interwar british army command regulars had no interest in war or any desire to win, most of them were simply not arsed about modernisation and the entire war machine's leadership still thought in Napoleonic terms, years and decades as opposed to the german's hours and minutes. Its hard for us to conceive in this day and age just how shocking blitzkrieg was

[tribal cairn]

Blitzkrieg was enormously effective, aye.

[raven solstice]

ngl,going against methed up nazis would be scary

[coarse thunder]

No one wanted another war with a lost generation like the previous world war

[tribal cairn]

Methed up pissed off germans

Since the Treaty of Versailles was basically a giant Fuck You to Germany

[coarse thunder]

Don't blame them

I don't at least

I mean Wilson wanted the moral high ground but even Congress rejected the League of Nations

French and Brits were at war for 4 years already

So no shit the terms were quite a bit harsh

[raven solstice]

what do yall think about bicycle day?

my fav holiday by far

no its not about actual bicycles either

[topaz dome]

International Rabbit Day #1 🐰 followed by talk like a pirate day

[raven solstice]

the birthday of lsd has to be my favorite day ever

[coarse thunder]

Yesterday was elephant day I saw

[raven solstice]

hence bicycle day being my fav holiday

[prime pine]

BLITZKRIEG

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[solid hinge]

Calm down

[topaz dome]

154 damage one shot no kill, what's your highest guys?

[solid hinge]

Lol it’s sad how France fought until death during ww1 against the germans and germany conquered France in 1 month durkng ww2

That’s the power of Blitzkrieg

@topaz dome 250

[hoary condor]

Germans attacked most countries without warning.. hard to prepare for something you wouldn't think would happen

plus it is France....

[raven solstice]

326 damage no kill

[solid hinge]

@raven solstice i’ll cry for you

[raven solstice]

shit hurted

[topaz dome]

oof

[raven solstice]

6 shots with the karabin no kill

[hoary condor]

F

[raven solstice]

game has been fucky for me lately

[solid hinge]

@hoary condor yes, true. The French-German border wasn’t even well defended

And the germans also went through the Ardennes

[raven solstice]

2 shots with the boys point blank and no kill as well

game has not been in my favor recently

[solid hinge]

Ow you used the boys

Nvm

Gimme back my tears

[raven solstice]

only for the meme

hip fire and ptfo with it

ultimate meme cannon

if you ads with it, you arent using it right

[solid hinge]

You’re a pro

[raven solstice]

if you say so

[hoary condor]

The amount of weaponary and people to chuck at a country that wasn't expecting an attack

[raven solstice]

what i really am, is about to be drunk

[solid hinge]

Hipfire M1922

[hoary condor]

boys....

MLG Pro Player = Camp bush Marita with Boys

[raven solstice]

bad player*

[hoary condor]

[raven solstice]

only way i use the boys is hipfire and rushing

[solid hinge]

leeroy jenkins tiger1 on devastation

[raven solstice]

ultimate 1v1 winner

[hoary condor]

Everytime i watch a russian on twitch i'm sure they have aimbot never miss a shot

[upper vault]

Every time I use a bomber

I get destroyed by fighter planes in the span of 30 seconds

[raven solstice]

welcome to betafield v where the anti cheat hasnt been implemented

[upper vault]

And I rarely kill targets

[solid hinge]

barrel roll split S in a blenheim at 30 ft

[hoary condor]

i end up crashing the plane because i press the wrong button and end up switching seats

[raven solstice]

F

[upper vault]

I like how when I turn in a plane I get obliterated by AA

[hoary condor]

Welcome to SquidAir, this is your pilot SQUID-EYE

[solid hinge]

@hoary condor couple of weeks ago I found some russian dude who went 60-2 on Mercury Breakthrough. He pushed in like it was nothing. I befriended him the dude was appearing offline for months and all of his games, friends and trophies are closed so I couldn’t see them.

Idk if he’s a cheater or not

[raven solstice]

saw a guy go 120 and 6 today

[solid hinge]

Nice

[raven solstice]

sniping as well

[solid hinge]

Pc?

[raven solstice]

yep

[hoary condor]

not always, you can camp and get 60-2

[solid hinge]

Didn’t surprise me

@hoary condor it was something like that

[hoary condor]

i done it with a 6 pounder

[solid hinge]

He didn’t camp

[raven solstice]

at least i dont have to pay to play online tho, id rather back out and find a new game then pay 60 a month to play the games i already bought on the console i already bought

[hoary condor]

rip.. then yeah he cheating as much as my ex girlfriend

[raven solstice]

felt that

[solid hinge]

@hoary condor https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/psn/Thewrathofprado_/overview

Like he didn’t had any recoil on his weapons

at least your ex wasn't banging your supposed bff .. but back to battlefield

[raven solstice]

xchrono

some women be mad nasty like that

[hoary condor]

@solid hinge 10/10 cheater

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge big oof

[raven solstice]

my ex cheated on me on valentines day then had the audacity to say it was an accident

[hoary condor]

I said i'm sorry connor, what else do you want from me?

[raven solstice]

she was "tricked into sex" cant make this shit up

dont need pitty

need money

[hoary condor]

getting off topic now

[raven solstice]

what i really need is that adolph elite

only one worth my hard earned money

[solid hinge]

...

[raven solstice]

not cause of what he did or cause i support him (i dont), but for the raw meme potential

[topaz dome]

0 chance

[raven solstice]

ik its dice, they wont even add an anti cheat

but a boy can dream

[solid hinge]

Mann

I’m hoping for a hit reg fix this month

[raven solstice]

they wont even add CONTENT

fr

[solid hinge]

You know they will lol

[raven solstice]

hope so

still waiting on al sundan

cant wait for it

[solid hinge]

Idc about al sundan

It’s a desert map

[raven solstice]

and?

[solid hinge]

I don’t like desert maps 🤷‍♂️

[hoary condor]

I don't mind them

[raven solstice]

thats like not liking a quater of all maps in existance

[solid hinge]

Got PTSD because of Hamada, Aerodrome and Sinai Desert

[hoary condor]

as long as they are evenly balanced for attackers and defence

[raven solstice]

sinai is ok

[solid hinge]

Sinai was a sniper vest

[raven solstice]

aero would be better with more cover, and hamada is just too bright and has poorly placed objs

[solid hinge]

I like the D objective at Hamada

I like it too, ez kills

[raven solstice]

c obj should be under the bridge with the bridge collapsed and the rubble as cover for the obj

[solid hinge]

Good for close combat

[hoary condor]

Yeah once you breakthrough the first sector on Hamada it does get fun

[solid hinge]

almost farming

I don’t even know the sectors in Hamada breakthrough

[hoary condor]

I think once you break through any first sector the map gets good

[raven solstice]

first sector is make or break

[solid hinge]

I don’t like it

[hoary condor]

Devastation, last sector is tough to defend

[raven solstice]

you either get steam rolled or steamroll

[solid hinge]

The last 2 sectors are fine

[raven solstice]

panzerstorm easily has the worst first sector

[solid hinge]

Agreed

[hoary condor]

It's terrible

[raven solstice]

open field

like cmon

[hoary condor]

Worse when your attacking team aren't attacking

[raven solstice]

at least give us trenches

[solid hinge]

I also don’t like the first sector in Arras

[raven solstice]

tanks love to snipe on that map

[solid hinge]

Annoying to defend

[hoary condor]

Either do i

[raven solstice]

and i love to smoke off the tanks so they are forced to move

[hoary condor]

It's okay attacking

defending becomes another issue

[raven solstice]

arras is ok imo

[hoary condor]

Arras last sector isn't fun

[solid hinge]

Never liked defending at all 😂

[raven solstice]

main map that needs work is panzerstorm and one i just forgot the name of

itll come to me

[solid hinge]

Yeah the defenders have the advantage at the last sector

[raven solstice]

mercury

[hoary condor]

Mercury is horrible

[raven solstice]

fr

[hoary condor]

Marita is even worse

[raven solstice]

who decided to put the first sector on a flat open area

what an idiot

marita is better than the other ones

[hoary condor]

Marita has too many camp spots for MMG and boys...

[raven solstice]

mmgs need a nerf

/buff

[hoary condor]

Marita
/remove

[raven solstice]

they need ads with crazy first 20 shot recoil then they settle, and the bipods need to not be as recoiless

that way people will use them for other things than camping

[hoary condor]

didn't have any mmg/sniper campers that were that bad

[raven solstice]

well when dice adds guns that can only be used while bipoded they are asking for passive play

[midnight nimbus]

> implying bigly recoil would do anything to deter camping

BFV MMGs already pretty much have recoil than they do irl

[raven solstice]

boys needs to be able to ads while moving but not one shot infy, do like 80 dmg max

[midnight nimbus]

would be pretty useless then

[solid hinge]

@hoary condor is there a option on discord to mute someone?

[raven solstice]

kht i assume?

just block them

[solid hinge]

No

[raven solstice]

me

?

[solid hinge]

Someone from another discord server

[hoary condor]

yeah

[raven solstice]

block em

[hoary condor]

right click their username

[raven solstice]

no messages or any contact from them

[midnight nimbus]

press name

apply block

[solid hinge]

Thanks

[raven solstice]

what platform yall play on?

[solid hinge]

Ps4

pc

[raven solstice]

pc here

[solid hinge]

I want a pc to play bfv on 🤣

The graphics are too good

[raven solstice]

be sure to get a minimum of 6 cores on your cpu

[midnight nimbus]

at least PS4 has a big player base

[raven solstice]

4 is iffy

[solid hinge]

Are bf1’s graphics better than bfv’s?

[midnight nimbus]

more or less identical

done with similar processes

[raven solstice]

they are different

bfv is more cartoony and bf1 is more real

[midnight nimbus]

well, depends on what you're looking for with good graphics

[raven solstice]

bfv is super saturated and contrasted

[midnight nimbus]

BFV uses film-like color palettes

hence the shit visibility

[raven solstice]

bf3 all over again

[midnight nimbus]

it looks pretty tho

[raven solstice]

hate the fucking blue filter

makes my eyes hurt

[midnight nimbus]

BF3 used color palettes to be reminiscent of helmet cam footage

at least visibility was good

[solid hinge]

@raven solstice i agree with you. Bf1’s graphics look more real thats why I like it more.

[raven solstice]

bf1 is more gritty, bf5 is more arcade like

2 different games

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 was a bit over saturated as well on many maps

which isn't a bad thing

I like punchy colors

[harsh raft]

I like BF1 and BF4

[solid hinge]

As mentioned in last week's "Weekly Debrief", we should be getting the notes for our upcoming Update 4.4 as the Devs go into finalizing for the update. This update will be coming out later this month, bringing the new Progression Systems Rank Increase and two new maps.

2 new maps

[compact oxide]

[raven solstice]

is al sundan one of them?

[solid hinge]

2 new small maps for smaller gamemodes...

looks like next week

[raven solstice]

cause that shit aint new

[solid hinge]

No Al Sundan is not one of them

[raven solstice]

what maps are they?

[solid hinge]

Provence and something else

[compact oxide]

One is mEtrO

[midnight nimbus]

Al Sundan TDM just looks like a less fun Suez TDM :/

[raven solstice]

what does provence look like?

im hyped for the metro map

what is the other tho

[solid hinge]

Houses/town with a big bridge

[midnight nimbus]

BFV maps have too much foliage

a problematic amount imo

[hoary condor]

tdm in bf isn't good

[midnight nimbus]

TDM in BFV* isn't good

ftfy

[solid hinge]

The other map is Lofoten Islands

[midnight nimbus]

it's really good in plenty of BF games

[solid hinge]

Set in Norway

[hoary condor]

I'm not keen on tdm due to the terrible spawn system

[midnight nimbus]

I like playing the spawn system

[raven solstice]

dice really missed the chance to make halvoy a map

[midnight nimbus]

making rotations and pushing/controlling spawns

[raven solstice]

so many good aspects in that map

[midnight nimbus]

from the little firestorm I've played, it's a really boring map

doesn't have fun hotspots or varied areas

[solid hinge]

Is the current firestorm map going to be the only map?

Or will they add more

[raven solstice]

ik its bland, but the hotspots that are there are good, and the natural cover is actually good

[midnight nimbus]

investing more into a dead mode

hmmmmmm

[raven solstice]

they should just take the firestorm map and put the best parts into one mp map

[midnight nimbus]

if only it were that easy...

BF maps take 6 to 18 months to make

[raven solstice]

if only they knew how to make a game

[midnight nimbus]

even Devastation took over a year to make

[raven solstice]

no fucking way panzerstorm took 6-18 months to mak

[midnight nimbus]

and it reuses the most tried and true flag layout in the series

[hoary condor]

no way

[raven solstice]

thats a damn lie

[midnight nimbus]

Panzerstorm took like 18 months iirc

[raven solstice]

panzerstorm took all of 10 mins to make

[hoary condor]

if it did take 6-18 months they really need to see where their priorities lay..

[raven solstice]

honestly

[midnight nimbus]

making maps is hard

[compact oxide]

That's the problem

[midnight nimbus]

it's stupidly time consuming in BF

[raven solstice]

i could make a better map if given the tools to, and it would be balanced

[midnight nimbus]

well, you hire designers just for maps and modes

[raven solstice]

like marite, idk why the fuck they left out the castle

[midnight nimbus]

it's not like they'd be doing anything else

[solid hinge]

No you wouldn’t connor

[raven solstice]

that would of been a better map if the castle was there

[midnight nimbus]

> i could make a better map if given the tools to, and it would be balanced
a lot of community members in a lot of games think this, and mod tools frequently prove them wrong

[raven solstice]

if i had a simplified map design software i would make a map that would be balanced and fun

[midnight nimbus]

toss in destruction, 64p, and absolute shit shows for game modes and map creation is really really hard

you have a massive area that needs to be tested for bugs

tons of art to do

insane amounts of textures

even though the foliage doesn't look great, it's definitely not quick to make

[raven solstice]

like i said if i had a simplified map editor i could make a better map than the ones we have now

[compact oxide]

Also the fact that apparently the engine is an awful thing to play with

[sonic moss]

Maybe add the SMLE mk III like how they did with the trench gun and ribeyerolles

[midnight nimbus]

I've heard mixed things on that

[raven solstice]

trench gun needs slam fire

[midnight nimbus]

frostbite is certainly hard to work with if you're not a good programmer or you're trying to use it for something it's not meant for

see: anthem

FIFA and other sports games generally work fine bc they're dead simple

[raven solstice]

anyone here play farcry 4?

[sonic moss]

No

[raven solstice]

if you did you know the map editor it had, if i was given a chance to make a bfv map on something like that i could easliy make one of the better maps in the game

[midnight nimbus]

awesome, now make it work well with 64 players, 5+ flags, destruction, and vehicles

[raven solstice]

i could

[midnight nimbus]

don't get me wrong, i think BFV maps suck ass

[raven solstice]

it would take some time but i could do it in less time than you say it takes them to make maps

[midnight nimbus]

but BF maps are incredibly hard to make

[solid hinge]

Some of them suck

I like the ones in bf1 more

[limpid jasper]

me too

[raven solstice]

the best maps consist of variety

[solid hinge]

Yh

[raven solstice]

which is what a lot of maps lack in this game

[midnight nimbus]

it's less about the map than it is about the mode imo

[raven solstice]

ehhhhh

[midnight nimbus]

breakthrough makes a lot of shit maps play decently

[raven solstice]

if the map isnt made right it wont work for any modes, period

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 FL was great on shit CQ maps

same with TDM and domination

[solid hinge]

I don’t think there were any shit CQ maps

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 vanilla maps are atrocious, but TDM plays well on pretty much all of them

comes to show that designing for 64p is pretty difficult

[raven solstice]

if bfv did a retake on rouge transmission it could be great. as long as its not a copy paste and changed up some spots

[midnight nimbus]

Rogue is awful

[raven solstice]

elaborate

[midnight nimbus]

at least it's easy to half + 1 on it

but tons of wasted space

it's the archetypal engineerfield experience

[raven solstice]

the flags are bland except the under radar flag

[midnight nimbus]

it's a good spawn trap map too ig

so that's enjoyable

[raven solstice]

but the lay out has potential

[midnight nimbus]

5 flag layout is the classic

but CQ can't be redeemed as a mode

[raven solstice]

if the objs were designed right it could be a solid map

[midnight nimbus]

i'd play so much BF4 if it had frontlines and breakthrough

[raven solstice]

thats what rush is for

[midnight nimbus]

I'll tolerate CQ to play vehicles, but for no other reason in BF4

BF4 rush sucks on most maps

also RSP = everyone wants to run 64p garbage

64p Rush is turbocancer outside of a vehicle

[raven solstice]

only suck when the objs are in open areas or give the defenders a huge advantage

[midnight nimbus]

it's a decent farming experience in a vehicle at least

[raven solstice]

only thing actually stopping me from going back and playing bf4 is the admins and spoofed server count

admins love to ban me when i kill them

[midnight nimbus]

I play BF4 just to play TDM or whore the MAA nowadays

[solid hinge]

😂😂

[midnight nimbus]

or meme around with attack boats

[raven solstice]

vq37 banned me for than and i was temp banned 4 times on whg servers

tbg banned me for telling the admin to sit down after he lost a 10ft gun fight with a saiga

[midnight nimbus]

yeah kinda lame how you can't really use chat much in BF4

[raven solstice]

to an m16

[midnight nimbus]

I just try to be on the same team as admins when I join

bc I've had an account banned from a ton of servers before

can't have my peak explosive spam fun :/

[raven solstice]

the dude came rushing in and spraying with the saiga and missed all shots, and i killed him. then i said "sit down you trash" in chat and got banned less than a min later

[midnight nimbus]

whoring the same few ARs in BF4 TDM never gets old for some reason

gunplay in BF4 isn't even good

it's just fun jumpshotting everywhere

[raven solstice]

being a server admin is essentially pay to win

[midnight nimbus]

it's like a less degenerate BO4

[solid hinge]

yeah, I try to argue against the player count spoof but the server owners suffer from chronic performance anxiety when they see an empty server and paying (yes they pay) some mysterious guy on a forum 50$ a month is one way to assuage the feeling of buyers remorse and guilt that they have not done enough to warrant their 200$ a month for all the servers you need for a BF4 server. Paying for a faked player count is the easy way out for them

[midnight nimbus]

yeah fuck RSP tbh

[raven solstice]

bf4 had too long of a ttk at range imo

[midnight nimbus]

M I C R O B U R S T

[raven solstice]

bruh

[midnight nimbus]

but yeah, BF4 had too much spread imo

[raven solstice]

not even that

[midnight nimbus]

ezmode BFV is nice

just magdump at range

[raven solstice]

it would take like half a mag to kill at range it seemed

even tapping and bursting

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 damage models are pretty similar to BF3/V

almost identical

it's just the spread

[raven solstice]

bfv feels more consistent to me

[midnight nimbus]

bc crispy low spread

ezmode long range dump

[raven solstice]

bf4 was hitmarker galore unless i was within 50ft

[midnight nimbus]

also BF4 doesn't have good kill feedback

no audio for the kill

[raven solstice]

true

[midnight nimbus]

gotta stare at the hitmarkers

you end up wasting a ton of ammo

unless you're like jika or hexe

[raven solstice]

idk

bf4 just felt like guns did no damage at range

no matter if i landed all the shots or not, it would take 8 shots or more with an ar to the torso

[midnight nimbus]

spread 2 bigly

BF4 ARs at range have the same damage model as 3/V

same with other weapon classes really

[raven solstice]

thats true but like i said regardless of how i shot my gun at them it would always take an excessive ammount to kill at range

[midnight nimbus]

I think hitmarkers also don't come in at a super timely manner

so they're hard to count compared to newer BF games as well

[raven solstice]

i would use the m16 and set it to single and tap 9 shots into a guy to kill past 100ft

kinda ass in that way

[midnight nimbus]

I have no problem getting 3 kills with a BFV 1907 magazine, but i waste ammo like crazy in BF4

[raven solstice]

pretty much

lmgs are atrocious when it comes to spread

[midnight nimbus]

even though my accuracy percentages are pretty similar between games

[raven solstice]

yep

[midnight nimbus]

oh man pre nerf stubby grip LMGs

the magdump experience

the way they should've been

[raven solstice]

fax

honestly i dont use anything but ergos anymore

[midnight nimbus]

depends on the gun

[raven solstice]

always ergo

[midnight nimbus]

stubby is still the best for most ARs

[raven solstice]

i strafe too much

stubby isnt ass accurate while strafing

[midnight nimbus]

ADS time is so fast in BF4 that you can just snap instead of staying ADSed much

BF4 ARs ADS almost twice as fast as BFV's iirc

0.17s vs 0.3

[raven solstice]

this is pretty much my universal set up, sight, ergo, flash hider

[midnight nimbus]

y flash hider

[south hornet]

i'll re-buy BFV again in a month

[midnight nimbus]

it's just a downgrade

[raven solstice]

muzzle break on burst guns

[midnight nimbus]

same w muzzle brake

[raven solstice]

flash hider doesnt affect stats

[midnight nimbus]

yeah it does

[south hornet]

though, why does EA sell games on turkey with Euro?

[raven solstice]

how so

[midnight nimbus]

worse spread decrease

for zero benefit

[raven solstice]

ive never seen any difference

[midnight nimbus]

same w muzzle brake

[raven solstice]

ive always heard that it is just for looks

[midnight nimbus]

it used to be

[raven solstice]

muzzle break is only good for the m16 and m4

[midnight nimbus]

but it got nerfed like halfway through BF4

[raven solstice]

less recoil thats why i use them

[midnight nimbus]

muzzle brake is just worse spread in exchange for not having to pull down on the mouse as much

[raven solstice]

on those guns

[midnight nimbus]

just crank up your FoV and nothing has recoil

[raven solstice]

my shots land dead center when i use the mb on the m16 and m4

[midnight nimbus]

hbar + ergo for the M16 mang

[raven solstice]

the spread doesnt affent the m16 with the mb

[midnight nimbus]

it does

[raven solstice]

cause of the mechanics of the gun

[midnight nimbus]

mb affects spread on all guns

[raven solstice]

only on the last shot

for the m16 and m45

m4*

[midnight nimbus]

more spread increase

https://symthic.com/bf4-attachments?p=advanced-data

[raven solstice]

basicly m4 and m16 dont have recoil or accuracy penalties till the last shot with the muzzle break

[midnight nimbus]

burst guns act the same exact way autos do

only difference is FSRM on the last shot

instead of the first

spread works the same exact way otherwise

[raven solstice]

hbar suck the way i play

i never stnad still

[midnight nimbus]

only difference is just where the recoil multiplier is applied

[raven solstice]

so mb works fine the way i use the m4 and m16

[midnight nimbus]

also hbar helps you while moving as well

that's why hbar + ergo is the recommended loadout for M16

[fast gyro]

Bf4

[midnight nimbus]

there's a formula to it, but in BF before BFV, better stationary accuracy = better moving accuracy

[raven solstice]

well if the way the attachments work changed ive never noticed

[midnight nimbus]

bc better lower bound

[raven solstice]

played since day one with the same set ups

[midnight nimbus]

yeah BF4 is in a way where worse loadouts still aren't that bad

[raven solstice]

still drop 3kd games

[midnight nimbus]

you can run total memes and they're still usable

[raven solstice]

bf4 had the best balance

[midnight nimbus]

lolololol

[raven solstice]

all guns could compete it seemed

[midnight nimbus]

I love BF4 as much as the next guy

but gun balance was not good

[raven solstice]

each gun had their strong points, but overall all guns could be used

either it was good, or im a beast

[fast gyro]

UwU

I just use the AS VAL

[raven solstice]

cause i can outgun many people who shoulda won

[echo glen]

Is BF4 in 2019 worth it with DLC?

[midnight nimbus]

mfw AR160 was just a bad CZ805

[raven solstice]

asval is a beast, except past 5 ft

ar160 is fun to use

[midnight nimbus]

<700 RPM ARs weren't worth using over 700 RPM ARs at all

[fast gyro]

I manage to kill people after those 5ft

[raven solstice]

wtf

the 700 rpm guns were the best

[midnight nimbus]

balance wasn't so bad that guns weren't unusable

but it wasn't good

[raven solstice]

consistent in all situations

m416, ar160, l85 etc

[midnight nimbus]

I mean median engagement range in BF4 was ~30m

[raven solstice]

all the best ars

[midnight nimbus]

75th percentile was like 40m or some shit

[raven solstice]

700 rpm is the sweetspot

[midnight nimbus]

yeah L85 is really good

prolly the best gun in the game

[raven solstice]

any gun is good in my hands

ik that sounds cocky but its just true

[midnight nimbus]

all guns usable, but not balanced

[fast gyro]

I used the SCAR-H and the Bulldog because they had higher damage than other assaults

[raven solstice]

ive never picked up a gun in that game that didnt feel solid

[midnight nimbus]

shit, anyone can make the SAR-21 workable in Lockers

doesn't mean it's good for Lockers

[raven solstice]

sar is so fun to use

[midnight nimbus]

kills so slow

[raven solstice]

lockers is 750+ rpm only

[midnight nimbus]

even on big maps, just use L85A2

and microburst

[raven solstice]

anything less is ass

l85 holo ergo

ez mode

[midnight nimbus]

MAA

true ezmode

[raven solstice]

lav

ez mode

infy slayer

[midnight nimbus]

great vehicles all around

I just like ruining flyboy dreams

too bad LAV canister shot is kinda shitty

but still a really good vehicle obvi

[fast gyro]

I'm just good with the T-90

[raven solstice]

i love how people say bfv has op tanks. must not have played bf4

[midnight nimbus]

BFV tanks are easier to get insane killstreaks with

tbh

easier to learn overall

[raven solstice]

lav with the og rounds and a tow is op

downs a tank sooooooo fast

[solid hinge]

Found a pretty decent reddit comment I think is true https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/cpcmwe/well_here_are_the_top_10_maps_what_do_you_guys/ewp0tq0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

[raven solstice]

12 shots, tow, 12 shots

dead

[midnight nimbus]

well not because the tanks in BFV are actually good, but bc the counters suck

[raven solstice]

anti tank launchers kinda blow

[solid hinge]

Feels alot like battlefield is turning into a cqb game like cod

[midnight nimbus]

I found tanking in BFV enjoyable just bc of how easy it is

[raven solstice]

st quentin wasnt my cup of tea

[midnight nimbus]

mfw most popular BF2 map was Karkand

people have enjoyed CQB since the beginning pretty much

[raven solstice]

favorite bf map ever?

[midnight nimbus]

bc average person hates being farmed by vehicles on fuckhuge maps

[solid hinge]

Yeah but as the comment says battlefield was always about combined arms

Its slowly edging towards cqb only

[midnight nimbus]

combined arms = vehicles farming infy

[solid hinge]

And losing what made it battlefield

[raven solstice]

love it or hate it, propaganda is my favorite map cause of the versatility and lane set up

[solid hinge]

Maybe the devs at infinity ward saw that and thought theyd capitalize

[raven solstice]

ace absolutely dominates that map

[midnight nimbus]

which is pretty unfun for the 90% of players in the game that don't get to sit in a vehicle

[solid hinge]

Im not saying nerf the revolver, but my friend went top of the scoreboard only using the revolver

its always been split .. way back in 2003 most map votes were for maps like el alamein and midway vs stalingrad or berlin

[midnight nimbus]

yeah propaganda is an overall good map

[raven solstice]

new mw is gonna flop imo

[midnight nimbus]

flop is relative

still prolly gonna gross $1b at the minimum

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge we can say nerf the revolver, thing is overpowered in its category

[raven solstice]

its got a lot of hype, but they are stepping out of there lane and i doubt they know what they are doing

[midnight nimbus]

and have a playerbase alive for at least 1+yrs, which is all that's necessary

[solid hinge]

Its like a shotgun sidearm

[raven solstice]

revolver can be outgunned if you are good

ive beaten the revolver with my 1991 more than ive lost to it

[midnight nimbus]

over stepping isn't a big deal when the next game comes out in a year

[raven solstice]

1911*

[solid hinge]

Doubt that

[midnight nimbus]

I mean the revolver is objectively OP for a sidearm

[solid hinge]

Revolver has a way faster ttk doesnt it

And way more range

[midnight nimbus]

it's better than the others in pretty much every way

doesn't mean it's unbeatable

[raven solstice]

my prediction on the new mw is gonna be open center lanes and 3 or 4 side lanes, essentially larger basic cod maps

[midnight nimbus]

but it does kill faster than the other sidearms

[raven solstice]

idk why they nerfed it

[solid hinge]

You can say that about anything tbf, even hackers can be beaten

[raven solstice]

thye shoulda just buffed the other pistols

[midnight nimbus]

^

yeah, BF4 sidearms were so nice

good TTK

[solid hinge]

Nah the other guns do good damage rn

Buffing them would make them way too good imo

[raven solstice]

1911 should be 4-5 to kill not 7

[midnight nimbus]

1911 is 3BTK

lmao

[raven solstice]

a .45 acp will fuck you up idc what people say

[echo glen]

We'll be getting an american revolver right?

[raven solstice]

prob

1887 or some shit

[fast gyro]

Isn't that a shoty?

[raven solstice]

id be suprised if the gasser didnt make it to the game

the gasser 1887

[fast gyro]

Ah ight sorry

[raven solstice]

many weapns were mad that year

[solid hinge]

You could go with just the revolver and no primary

[raven solstice]

honestly

[solid hinge]

Many people do that devoted

Its annoying as fuck

[echo glen]

How bout this

[fast gyro]

Why do I join a bf4 server and my team is getting annihilated??

[solid hinge]

🤷

[raven solstice]

https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/ww2-military-pistols.asp

all of these need to be in the game by 2020

april 2020

anyways imma head out and shit on kids on break thru now that ive finished my half solo cup of vodka

take it easy yall

[solid hinge]

[raven solstice]

playing sober is boring imo

[solid hinge]

Fellas need to start setting realistic expectations

[raven solstice]

more fun when you can outgun the other team while fucked up

[solid hinge]

Especially those reddit dumb dumbs who are saying this and that needs to happen when eastern front comes

[fast gyro]

Lol actually my team still managed to win

[solid hinge]

Nice

Comeback 💪

[fast gyro]

Rush games be like:

[raven solstice]

only thing that matters with the eastern front is that we get the dp28,svt40,tokarev pistol, ppsh41/35, and the mosin. and only map i care for is a true stalingrad. townsquare, and apartments like the real deal

[hoary condor]

Germans attacking have to run through the trenches going into the town

[solid hinge]

The thing is that eastern front is not coming

[hoary condor]

True

Pacific.. which has more bushes for campers

[raven solstice]

if the game picks up when pacific comes out, we mght get it

[echo glen]

Imagine the cliff camping

[solid hinge]

yeah thats not the real eastern front, thats the glam shot .. the real eastern front is the massive tank battles

[raven solstice]

that too

[echo glen]

Kursk!

[solid hinge]

The game cant pic up though

We are what, 4 months away from pacific and the game is still in the same or if not worse buggy state it was at launch

[raven solstice]

its getting better imo, but its still fucked

[solid hinge]

Just dont see getting anything but an announcement for the next battlefield game after pacific

[raven solstice]

anyways im outro, bout to go shit on the other team while drunk. take it easy yall

[solid hinge]

Fixing a game that brings in little revenue and has a bad rep would cost way too much money for ea

Battlefront worked because its only bad rep was the lootbox fiasco, that game actually worked gameplay wise

Knowing that use need to set realistic expectations to not get angry on reddit when eastern front doesnt drop

[hoary condor]

True

[topaz dome]

battlefront finally added more weapons and attachments for the soldiers?

[solid hinge]

Holy fucking shit inagine the bush camping when the pacific comes

Their excuse will be that its realistic

What do you do about bush camping though

[echo glen]

Gib us Banzai charge

[solid hinge]

If theres a bush people will sit in it

Dont really mind if either tbh

The amount of bush campers ive accidently killed while trying to bayonet someone and they get in the way

Sometimes I actually roadkill those people

By accident

[hoary condor]

I do on Panzerstorm, racing my tank through and got a double

[solid hinge]

I want gold roadkill dogtags ngl

It's those transport vehicles, I rarely got a chance to drive a tank

[prime pine]

Would be nice if there were service stars again.

[bronze grotto]

which semi auto rifle is the easiest to finish the 10 headshots in an objective

[solid hinge]

No idea i use gehewr 43

[warped parcel]

mix me

[bronze grotto]

i only did the mint part for the g43

idk maybe m1 carbine could be the least difficult to pull it off with

does anyone know if there are new guns coming soon
i really want the chauchat to be rereleased

TIL the pzb at rifle is delayed?

[gloomy kraken]

Yup, it was supposed to be this weeks rewards instead of the M30 Drilling skin.

[bronze grotto]

are there leeks for the when the next weapon is coming

reddit post tells unused weapon files are being deleted, rip future inclusion?

[gloomy kraken]

Next gun is the C96 pistol carbine, then Black Fairbairn Syken knife, and last twos order is unclear So it can be ether the Pzb 39 or Breda 1935M.

[solid hinge]

I want the panzerschreck and bazooka badly

I want to ads on those things

[trim token]

Ew medic

[solid hinge]

Ok

[trim token]

[hoary condor]

Battlefield: Zombies

[trim token]

Hmmmmmm no :th0nk:

[gloomy kraken]

Battlefield: Dinosaurs

[topaz dome]

I could go for a better version of Primal Carnage

[orchid shore]

who is be like not buying stuff in the armory with

[prime pine]

Cant wait to ride a dinosaur

[gloomy kraken]

Cant buy only stuff if you dont have any

[solid hinge]

I beg let the stuff in the armory in 1 and a half hours be good

[hoary condor]

Armoury is usually just recycled stuff

[solid hinge]

We recieved wanderer now i expect no less of a standard

[hoary condor]

1,506 kills with the M95 and 1,041 were headshots

[solid hinge]

https://twitter.com/niklasastrand/status/1161226945482432517?s=21

Bfv pc origin codes

[gloomy kraken]

Hes got them Gaming socks SQUID

[hoary condor]

[bronze grotto]

what would be the c96 carbine's stats?

though i really hope the p16 comes back as an automatic pistol carbine for scout
mmmmm mini m1907 would be wild

[stoic breach]

The gameplay of the p16 looked ok but the person recording didnt do much with it

[solid hinge]

c96 will probably have similar stats to p08

i heard it has a 40 mag and a gimmicky full auto spec

so it might be slightly weaker

Armory reset soon

Really hope we get the american winter stuff that got datamined

[bronze grotto]

lol inb4 full auto 300rpm

tfw no soviet content yet

[solid hinge]

Soviet content aint coming either

[gray saffron]

i can't hype myself up too much for armory updates. most of the time it's disappointing xd

[solid hinge]

Im only hopeful because we got the datamined german winter stuff last week

So it would make sense to get the american ones, but its dice so nothing makes sense

[gloomy kraken]

C96 with 40 bullet mag? And automatic? Damn.

[solid hinge]

please God let it not suck

[gloomy kraken]

What was that bf1 automatic pistol that was originally tanker/pilot class only? I wonder if that is counter as a pistol carbine as Well.

[prime pine]

Frommer stop auto.

[bronze grotto]

frommer stop?

i hope it and the p16 comes to bfv somehow

[prime pine]

Full auto C96 sounds hilarious.

[bronze grotto]

isnt that the astra

[prime pine]

Astra?

[bronze grotto]

iirc its a Spanish c96 in full auto?

[prime pine]

Spanish c96

?

[bronze grotto]

im googling

[prime pine]

Actually

Eh

I thought of something

But it'll be really bad

[bronze grotto]

asrra 900

Spanish copy of c96

[prime pine]

H

[formal valve]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/cprl1e/good_old_gustav/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

[prime pine]

Like the japanese type 92.

[tacit kelp]

Any update this week??

[prime pine]

The lewis copy

Uh

Think next week

[bronze grotto]

very suspicios

[formal valve]

The Japanese actually used a lot of captured weaponry

[bronze grotto]

whats gonna be the upd8

Japanese copy of garand pog

[prime pine]

The japanese ordered tigers but couldnt grab them

[bronze grotto]

with mag reload

[formal valve]

Bren guns, Thompson’s, some Garands and Lee Enfields

[prime pine]

Cause even when disassambled it was too heavy

[formal valve]

They had many

[fast gyro]

Bren is the best weapon ever

[bronze grotto]

bren is nutt

[prime pine]

I love the bren

Just wish it wasnt nerfed

[formal valve]

I think they never got them cuz they were stuck in the process of being readied for shipment but a incident involving the Normandy coastline happened on the morning of June 6

“An incident”

[bronze grotto]

wait when was it nerfed

[prime pine]

It was nerfed a bit ago to have higher vertical recoil.

Cam't remember exactly.

[formal valve]

I never noticed

It’s pretty controllable when bipoded

[bronze grotto]

ill assume its been long enough

whats birdied

bipod

lel

[prime pine]

I cant be bothered with using it again cause im more effective in the same range with the fg42.

[bronze grotto]

bren is good for sniping on the marita cliffs

though i don't really bipod the bren

its pretty good for ads fire

[formal valve]

Imagine being a British soldier being issued Sten MK1, taking part in the Bruneval raid, and then spraying at a single kraut with your weapon and not hitting your target because they Sten was fucking stupid

[prime pine]

Oh yeah the sten was unreliable.

[keen spade]

I hope dice pulls another CC error like last week

[prime pine]

Wish we got a silenced Sten.

[formal valve]

Sten MkVI when

[bronze grotto]

wood sten

with the fabric silencer

but it now overheats like an mmg

[formal valve]

I remember when people were calling the MP28 in Infinite Warfare a Sten

Because a YouTuber said it accidenlty

[hoary condor]

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And even after some kind soul corrected him and he said thank you

People in the comments came in and I quote “bruh it’s still a Sten lmao”

As if the Sten is a gun design, not an actual gun name

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well you'll also get people who'll call the MG34 the MG42 for some reason

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Yeah like recently with the MW gameplay

They have a MG34 in there

[keen spade]

people called it an MG42

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And everyone was saying it was an MG3

The modern MG42

But then I corrected them

[keen spade]

the MG34 is still a weird choice IMO

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Probably for the insurgents in campaign

Or revels

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What next

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They still use many really old guns over there

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the MG08/15

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Hell, even some records of them using Panzer 4s

[bronze grotto]

bring back the m1917 lmao

[sweet fulcrum]

I mean, it's a pretty complex and expensive gun to be seen on an insurgent

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Pz4 vs M1A2

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water cooled support mg pls

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The MG34 @sweet fulcrum ?

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ye

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nvm we already have the lewis

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Well yeah,

[echo glen]

Gib some Mosin rifles for the insurgents

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^

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I know they have a K98K

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some even used the older Gewehr 98

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Some even used fucking peabody martini Rifles

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Panzer IV vs M1A2 Abrams

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Panzer IV wins because muh german engineering

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I know people don't want to see old BF1 guns return but i do hope we get the M1917 someday

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The enfield?

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no

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the murrican enfield

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the Browning machine gun

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oh ok

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Well I know the M1919 is in there

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beside the air-cooled barrel instead of water-cooled and the added stock, what are the other differences with the m1917?

[keen spade]

also the enfield is already in the files

so its kinda confirmed we are getting it

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laughs in sjorgen

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speaking of which

I never got why they didn't add the Sjorgen

the model and animation looks finished

[echo glen]

Bring back the Carcano

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also the animation has been reworked since bf1

for carcanos at least we got the m28, tacticool nade carcano

but yeah a full-length for the recon would be cool

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Enfields dogtag is in the game

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its like all of a sudden Dice is afraid to add new weapons

[echo glen]

There should be a weapons suggestion list

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ahahahahah gluger

[echo glen]

gluger?

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like we were suppose to get the panzerbusche on Week 7

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Gluger

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but for whatever reason

it was replaced with a skin no one wants

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20 seconds to armory reset

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Oh Boyo

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lets see what we get this week

watch its going to be nothing

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i hope murrican winter stuff

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Perhaps the epic version of those two german sets we got last week

well

by last week for one of them

i mean 10 minutes

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soothsayer and the wildone

and some new collector weapon skins

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nuthing