they're a lot weaker now you can kill the owner and they despawn
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
formal valve
Or by the stone walls used for cover
solid hinge
thank god
formal valve
They aren’t just a “cheese weapon”
They can actually be used to effectively counter an advanced
onyx cave
should i drop bfv
formal valve
Combined with Machine gun fire
solid hinge
they used to be slapped around willy nilly
rocky verge
also question can i post a Outfit From Bf5 here or nah?
dense bone
i hated claymore or whatever they were called in bf3/4 that were one shot kills
gray saffron
every resupply point was an ap mine point
dense bone
^
solid hinge
That didnt work before the nerf
formal valve
I sound like a idiot lmao
formal valve
Nazis hate him! Find out how this one ally managed to bypass the S Mines with one simple trick!
solid hinge
which means they either had that function and removed it or (more likely) didnt put it in the game
gray saffron
and the hitboxes on those things were/are horrible. by the time you finally let it explode, dudes come knocking to see what the ruckus is about :<
solid hinge
click
NYARRRGGGHH
bang
gray saffron
just stay away from puny axis tank 😄
onyx cave
glad lichen
I'm lying there trying to get me legs back on and some jolly chap with a Bren comes to investigate.
formal valve
Tho I do love when I’m able to plant my charges but die from an S mine launcher and the S mine triggers my explosive and kills him anyways, he effectively kills him self
short pecan
havent died to an ap mine in ages
why would you use them when the alternatives are straight up better?
sweet fulcrum
are you the reddit give_chauchat?
solid hinge
both the alternatives are broken right now
short pecan
no im not
sweet fulcrum
unfortunate
short pecan
what do you mean ayla
solid hinge
they gutted all 3 of supports gadgets in one move
and havent fixed them for Two Months
hazy wasp
you know the way you couyld balance the mines
short pecan
grenade pistol is ok at doing grenade pistol things
hazy wasp
you get 1 of them and its an insta kill
solid hinge
it takes two hits to destroy most walls now
which is awful considering the boys destroys most things in one shot
rocky verge
when a AP pistol and Panzerfaus can't destory a wall
solid hinge
and AT mine is straight up borked
short pecan
destroying walls isnt its only use though
solid hinge
It's the main one on infantry focused maps
short pecan
it does ok damage against vehicles
solid hinge
It still does decent tank damage
solid hinge
It does a little more!
short pecan
no the grenade pistol
dense bone
helpful
hazy wasp
yo if reddit stopped bitching about shit that killed them we might have a balanced game
short pecan
like 3 times more
rocky verge
who want's to see a ok German outfit for Bf5? i'll post it here
short pecan
plus you can lob it over cover
solid hinge
and if you have crates you can resupply it multiple times for constant bombardment of tank
dense bone
its probably best to just look over cover
solid hinge
i snuck up on tiger with a placed crate and waited for it to recharge so I had effectively 5 shots in a row
very comfy
solid hinge
I like your boots
gray saffron
the hat feels weird with the rest
icy sluice
Honestly, with the outfit, the hat doesn't fit exactly
short pecan
cavalleria or retribution might look better
solid hinge
all my germans are rocking the BERGSTEIGER now
gray saffron
i missed it 😦
rocky verge
only have Cavalleria with i had Retrubution
solid hinge
apart from recon
hazy wasp
also i love how the frames drop to 30 when youa re in a plane then stutter like shit when you fire rockets and cause you to crash
short pecan
i aint buying boins
rocky verge
coff
prime pine
Yeah i got the sanitäter helmet too
prime pine
Its not a bad helmet. Kinda combined it with wanderer
solid hinge
Oh yeah wanderer exists as well
short pecan
gotta love it when they release something on accident and remove it hours later
solid hinge
Double thicc
prime pine
I didnt get bergstiger
short pecan
weird how quick that goes but crucial bugfixes take months 
solid hinge
I think they actually intended to release this one but cocked the release up
It had a picture of a different skin on it
ruby merlin
LFT On BF4 Ps4?
prime pine
They pre released the tank skins so that tells you something about the management at dice.
solid hinge
they have SO many skins as well
prime pine
Yeah! I was surprised.
solid hinge
theres literally 5x more tank skins than we currently have available
prime pine
Easily 3x
hazy wasp
SHakes fist
prime pine
I had to go grab the black churchill
short pecan
boins only sorry lads :)
rocky verge
bruh dice just keep it in game
solid hinge
!roadmap
prime pine
They were 33K when you could actually buy them.
hazy wasp
fuck the boyes rifle too
prime pine
So my sorry ass was broke after that
hazy wasp
either make all snipers that comparable to it or nerf it
solid hinge
Whens the next patch coming
prime pine
Can imagine sometime next week
gray saffron
end of august is a "big" patch set
solid hinge
I see
oak oasis
can some1 give top 10 best guns for support or medic
prime pine
Fg42 is S-
rocky verge
icy sluice
strong
short pecan
are there even 10 guns on the medic yet? 
prime pine
This for bf5 or what
solid hinge
tfw they released sexy tank skins for CC and everyone went "wow dice are fixing things!" and then they went "haha sorry lol someone hit the big red button that says 'RESTORE COMMUNITIES FAITH' by accident they're not coming back unless it's for boins lol"
solid hinge
not just the bugs but like.. the amount of times they keep accidentally releasing things or fucking up actual releases of things
super unprofessional
indie devs literally do it better and these guys are triple A
hazy wasp
hah
okay that was cool, just held F with another squad member until we were the last 2 standing then got overrun
hollow birch
Yo why am i waiting +4mins for a firestorm game?
tacit kelp
Update in this wee?
hazy wasp
its not a very fun BR
tacit kelp
Its paid BR
short pecan
whats firestorms stand-out feature even supposed to be? i literally cant think of anything
solid hinge
vehicles
fleet bloom
god Marita and Devastation are next to each other in breakthrough
solid hinge
ere
fleet bloom
short pecan
yeah, but vehicles are literally a death trap with how abundant at gadgets are
solid hinge
terrible looting system?
tfw tank damage didnt get buffed vs infantry even though they can have 3x as much hp
short pecan
all that ontop of severely limited ammo and fuel
short pecan
why not its dirt cheap
solid hinge
14.99
short pecan
wait for a sale then
tacit kelp
Everyone know that turret is really slow, all they (assaults) have to do is prone, don't move and wait. Then attack with dynamite- GG. It's new meta
lack of visibility etc
hazy wasp
like BFV's greatest issue is, its trying to move away from the sandbox
I'd rather have some OP vehicles if they were at least fun to play
I'd suffer being murdered by them for the betterment of the stupidity of BF
Also if people had well balanced squads it wouldn;t matter if you died, because you could get picked up by a squad mate or a medic
hazy wasp
why wouldn't they?
prime pine
I was more surprised it was a thing if that makes sense.
coarse thunder
More like a Hotchkiss than anything
prime pine
Ironic.
coarse thunder
Yeah wikipedia says that it is based off the Hotchkiss system
hazy wasp
btw if the enxt BF doesn't bring back pistols are faster that reload as standard im gonna scream
rich ember
Remember: switching to your pistol is faster than reloading.
hazy wasp
I fucking wish
thats How i used to drop people in BF4 if i missed the ehadshot with a bolt
bolt then double tap
solid hinge
heh
melee someone on ground
they dont die
their teammate spawns on them literally on top of them inbetween me and them
their teammate tanks the next melee
they 180 and kill me
i hate this game
two back melees with no execution
fucked teammate spawns
rich ember
@solid hinge nice
rocky verge
that's why you never melee
alway's shoot them
and if there teammate spawns on them ez double kill
solid hinge
I want the TAGA
holy fuck fuck mmgs
this dudes gun was literally 90 degree angle away from me
mmgs cannot point directly downwards
no fucking way
short pecan
taga?
short pecan
huh
short pecan
i dont understand
solid hinge
tfw a silent ke7 bushcamper kills you
rocky verge
Kill a plane with a Tripwire bomb (dice u ok there buddy)
short pecan
what do you get from collecting dogtags
rocky verge
get the throwing knife dog tag
solid hinge
already do
rocky verge
@formal valve shotgun users HMMMMM
formal valve
Me Hmmm
prime pine
Why the fuck are there people with sniper rifles on marita
For the entire game my squad has done absolutely nothing to contribute to the game.
Its so fucking sad.
prime pine
Went 90-15 with the STG 1-5 though
prime pine
They cant even fucking aim thats the thing.
prime pine
They're my squad mates but i would gladly kill them.
gray saffron
lure them into a halftruck and drive them off the cliff or into enemies
they're already cattle ready for slaughter when they're playing snipin recons 😄
scenic beacon
god i wish there was friendly fire sometimes, i'm not toxic, just fed up at this point
I'd gladly ignore them if they could hit one out of twenty shots, but sitting at the back of the map spam requesting ammo with zero kills and twelve deaths? ugh
solid hinge
what on ear th is the fun in pretending to be a sniper if you're shit at it
short pecan
attacking when half your team are snipers is fun
solid hinge
played a match of arras where a dude had his pz4 specced for anti tank and played so fucking campy that he didnt die once
scenic beacon
lead pipe in the back of the head the moment friendly fire comes
solid hinge
he was playing with a teammate who didnt leave the front gunner position once either
scenic beacon
one of THOSE then
solid hinge
they got snuck up on by an assault a few times but he was using AT mines and they're broken so it never killed him
solid hinge
if he died we could have had someone who wasnt shit take a tank and do something useful
scenic beacon
I feel ya, i kinda stopped playing vehicle modes for a while bc of that kinda stuff
short pecan
playing aggressive in a tnak is practically suicide though
gray saffron
well if he has a dedicated teammate, that shouldn't really be as suicidal
short pecan
cant rely on your team to protect you from sneaky assaults
how?
its just a front gunner
gray saffron
yeah, but dude can also go to top gunner to shoot ones in the blind spot, get out to repair as support and shit
that is, if he's talkin with the teammate
gray saffron
i'm a gunner sometimes for tankies and i do use top gunner. switch between main gunner and top. get the pesky ones that try to sneak up and then back inside
getting shot sometimes is part of a gunner's life 😦
scenic beacon
or have a teammate that can get out if top gunner is a stupid idea and just shoot them dead
AP mines are also a good spec on tanks
coarse thunder
I'd only switch seats as long as teammates are not nearby and my squad is locked to me
short pecan
infantry vs tank balance is just terrible
tanks are too strong at range and too weak up close
formal valve
https://twitter.com/niklasastrand/status/1160889086925856769?s=21 this is disgusting
7 out of the top 10 are infantry focused garbage
coarse thunder
Never thought that Amiens took #1 over metro and locker
solid hinge
if I see one more piece of shit proning inside a dead body
why can you do that
literally how are you supposed to identify a corpse as a targwt
gray saffron
make the body spasm out to space the moment someone tries to prone inside it. like a prone detector!
main reason i double tap in this game though. don't care if it's friendly, a corpse. if it moves I shoot it.
solid hinge
i hate it
back proning looks so much like a corpse
just got in a sniper fight and got body shot twice before I moved out of cover and after I moved into cover
hows this working lag
you gotta do before or afyer
not both
midnight nimbus
very cool of DICE to animate dead bodies but not animate stationary alive enemies
gray saffron
maybe bfv was supposed to be zombie game but they changed their mind halfway through? 😮
midnight nimbus
yes
BFV is a survival horror PVE game
not a PVP FPS
you die to people who look dead
gray saffron
it all makes sense now. the limited ammo
midnight nimbus
you have attrition
solid hinge
someone proning on their back and aiming to their side is indistinguishable from a corpse
solid hinge
and GOD FUCK aerodrome breakthrough
8 months after launch and they still havent made it so germans spawn on B by default
every single fucking match it's me and the only other bastard in the game who knows you have to wait for round to start before you can spawn on B on B
vs like 4 tanks
start twisted steel breakthrough
by the time it gives me control of my plane two spitfires are behind me
this is gr eat
really wonderful
love this functioning game
coarse thunder
Plant AT mines at the resupply station
midnight nimbus
Aerodrome Breakthrough is heaven
it's genuinely the thing I miss the most about BFV
solid hinge
just lost the next plane spawn because it didnt show up at any point on my screen
coarse thunder
Even if the tank can see and destroy them it will also blow up the resupply station
midnight nimbus
the cute little Germans trying to run up to your Valentine
feeding them 6pdr to the face
gray saffron
trying to full-time plane in bfv is madness. too much luck based on getting a plane and then back to staring at a number for atleast 2 minutes or more. :/
midnight nimbus
i'd actually pay like $30 to play 24/7 Aerodrome BT as the Brits
solid hinge
i did 2 fucking damage to a plane and it nosedived straight into the ground
i thought he was doing some sick manoeuvre so i followed him
i hate everyone who plays fps games
coarse thunder
I consider that an absolute win
solid hinge
walnut braind
strong parrot
ever think fps games arent your thing?
rich ember
imagine modding an FPS game discord without playing FPS games
midnight nimbus
woke: playing a first person shooter to kill people with a third person vehicle 👌
rich ember
why not just play world of tanks or something.
formal valve
rich ember
nice link
midnight nimbus
you can't farm infy in WoT
gray saffron
cause you practically linked the entire search for that single picture
midnight nimbus
tank v tank isn't fun :((((((
rich ember
@midnight nimbus boo hoo
midnight nimbus
that's why BF is so magical 😃
midnight nimbus
it's COMBINED ARMS
formal valve
That’s what it’s supposed to be anyway
formal valve
AHEM stupid propaganda poll that had 7 infy focus maps
midnight nimbus
infy v infy, tank v infy, air v infy
midnight nimbus
game v infy is literally a thing
die to random fires on the ground
die to random falling rubble
die to attrition
solid hinge
i cant fucking do this man
formal valve
Die to random redeploy thing
solid hinge
i had to get out and repair the vehicle supply station 4 times because not a single other person would do it
gray saffron
and you didn't get your tank hijacked? D:
midnight nimbus
too bad console doesn't have text chat
solid hinge
they jumped out once they realised it had literally 0 resources
midnight nimbus
I just tell my team that I won't help them until they rebuild the station
bc realistically I can't
solid hinge
i asked.for repairs and pinged it like 50 times
midnight nimbus
tanks are very useful without ammo :))))))
solid hinge
the top scorer on my team was in my squad and jumped in the tank
and just shot people from the gunner position
so I pointed it towards the station and pinged it
and he just shot it a couple times and refused to do anything
he was even a support
i hate supports more than anyone else
icy sluice
Got my woman to count to four :)))))))))))
midnight nimbus
aaaaand there's the difference between Respawn and DICE
Respawn playtests things while acting like randoms
formal valve
I got Norman to count to 9 yesterday
Almost got 10
Would’ve had a perfect 10 with my Lee Enfield
midnight nimbus
DICE assumes competency
solid hinge
fuckin hate it man
formal valve
Every shot was a headshot
fiery pier
guy guys limiting ammo will increase team play we swear
formal valve
gray saffron
respawn just circumvents the issue by not adding teamplay in their games at all ;D
solid hinge
not a single person gave a fuck
fiery pier
I’ll pay money when rsp is out to disable attrition as an option
rich ember
@gray saffron i'd argue that's not true in the case of squads with friends in Apex.
warped parcel
allakhu akbar
rich ember
great
midnight nimbus
mfw people think teamplay is just pouch throwing
formal valve
Don’t start making dumb comments
warped parcel
русские прием
fiery pier
Team play in a 64 player sense
midnight nimbus
teamplay can be so much more than resource tossing
icy sluice
formal valve
rich ember
@warped parcel ??????
opaque pawn
Yeah thats gonna be me lol
midnight nimbus
you can really see who's a BF refugee on MW reddit, they ask for pouch tossing and resource shit
warped parcel
i search russian players
coarse thunder
I've been on a no cod streak for years, don't need to break it now
icy sluice
I end up providing covering fire and lock up hallways/areas with an MG42...
gray saffron
Sure
midnight nimbus
p2w doesn't matter when average TTK is like <200ms
icy sluice
There's an Assault Rifle that shoots exploding flechette, two tap and ded
icy sluice
Anywhere on the body too lol
opaque pawn
@midnight nimbus you have a point
fathom pebble
oh boy BF vs cod how fun 
icy sluice
Even the foot
opaque pawn
oh fuck my mispelling
icy sluice
@formal valve Lemme embed that for ya
midnight nimbus
yeah who cares about p2w when literally anyone can use FAMAS + stopping power
1200 RPM 2 BTK
coarse thunder
That tunic clipping
gray saffron
he looks pretty dope indeed 😃
coarse thunder
Sorry it's the first thing I noticed
gray saffron
maybe his entire uniform is made out of clips so he won't have to ask for ammo :3
formal valve
icy sluice
Cosmetics are always nice
coarse thunder
Typical German engineering
formal valve
SS snow lad
coarse thunder
"The skier"
formal valve
Looks like hes ready to take on Stalingrad
coarse thunder
Ngl he looks like a snowboarder/skier as he/she is going up the lift again
coarse thunder
What's the point of the face paint under the mask
formal valve
Makes the eyes look darker
gray saffron
like batman always does his makeup under the mask 😄
i do it too for gasmask characters.
solid hinge
what's that? we lost the sector? could it be because over half our team was attempting to snipe through a hill 150 metres away? no, that would be silly
visual blade
@icy sluice what torso is that?
solid hinge
i miss titanfall so fucking much
coarse thunder
I'd be down for that cosmetic without the feldgenderarmerie chain dog necklace
icy sluice
@visual blade Soothsayer
visual blade
kk thanks
formal valve
Anyone think since we got the two german winter sets last week we will get the two American ones this week?
Badger and Nomad?
icy sluice
I wanna get Soothsayer because the headgear looks good with the Kraken Torso
visual blade
@formal valve yes or at least one of them
gray saffron
snipers on marita are so pointless.
formal valve
I hope
gray saffron
unles they use the p08
visual blade
I hope so too
icy sluice
I use a sniper rifle on Marita, but I don't long distance snipe
formal valve
I have a very strange assortment of characters for my german company
icy sluice
It's easy to pick off people tho
solid hinge
the sheer amount of prone dudes makes close range bolts decent on marita
coarse thunder
The Wanderer helm looks good with the Hades Torso
icy sluice
Ya know what, I have not heard Hanna count, shit.
gray saffron
UHN, DEUX, TROIIS
rich ember
fuckin' dumbass
formal valve
?
junior topaz
what the fuck have i walked into lol?
gray saffron
prolly an AP mine if you didn't notice it
coarse thunder
Hopefully just a miscommunication
formal valve
I love North Africa uniforms https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/dat-boi-lime/screenshot/12748106
junior topaz
have they fixed silent tanks in bf5 btw?
gray saffron
those do look rad
icy sluice
Thanks for giving me your Gamertag @formal valve 😉
gray saffron
my medic looked a bit like that for a while
formal valve
icy sluice
Gonna harrass you now 👀
formal valve
junior topaz
oh snap
icy sluice
You have 6 pages of Screenshots, holy shit.
gray saffron
and then you accidentally add him and he;s going to counter-stalk youu
icy sluice
There's more... o.o
formal valve
Used to have 34 pages
junior topaz
icy sluice
I am totally going to stalk him
formal valve
junior topaz
gray saffron
only zero or 1 views 😦
formal valve
UwU
icy sluice
A lot of these are so similar tho
icy sluice
Heh, I saw a CoD one
formal valve
Which one
icy sluice
I put it in General because it's not Battlefield
Oh yeah, Battlefield 3 is backwards compatible
solid hinge
When is 4.4 coming out
gray saffron
Soon (tm)
solid hinge
place your bets
shadow widget
Anyone want to play some fire storm
fathom pebble
@solid hinge all my company coins since they are all useless on the 31st of February
coarse thunder
Wait what
polar totem
Wait
gray saffron
What
polar totem
That makes no sense
prime pine
What a joke. I strafe a panzer iv with 6 pounders and i still die.
rich ember
Nice
prime pine
The vehicle spawning is a joke. It doesn't even update and some other fucker takes the plane you've been trying to get.
There's no such thing as bad luck in this game. Its all bullshit.
rich ember
Nice.
icy sluice
Bergsteiger is coming tomorrow in the Armory
gray saffron
heavy breathing
coarse thunder
Ngl that field cap on the set is a huge turn off for me
Reminds me of American sailor blues lmao
icy sluice
Image if needed
formal valve
But it’s not an American exclusive cap...
formal valve
Many sides had them
prime pine
Left
solid hinge
@icy sluice with boins or company coins?
formal valve
Coins
solid hinge
When are the new elites coming? 😂😂😂😂
tribal cairn
The wanderer outfit is pretty damn cool for maps like Narvik though
Gotta admit that
proud knot
tribal cairn
Aren't those both the major Tryhard Weapons?
In either case, ACE 23 is pretty decent
midnight nimbus
FAMAS
visual blade
I would assume so yea
tribal cairn
Oh and Raptor, I never thought about your name before, but I like the clever inclusion of the Sturmabteilung.
Just thinking of that.
icy sluice
Thanks for saying that, now I am getting banned 🙄
tribal cairn
I would think of that as an overstatement.
upper vault
You know
Im thinking that if the media didn’t talk trash about BFV an the first trailer was good,
Will people still call the game trash?
tribal cairn
That depends on if the game had reason to not be called trash regarding Actual gameplay
Its all a wonder with opinions,
All coming together, fighting against each other,
upper vault
The actual gameplay I feel is good,
tribal cairn
Tearing eachother apart.
solid hinge
wdym, the translation is reconnaissance soldier
tribal cairn
There is no knowing if people would still call it trash or not because everyone has opinions?
upper vault
Yeah they do
But people’s opinions are dynamic and will change
Let’s say the first trailer was the Devastation of Rotterdam
And that robotic arm with katana stuff wasn’t shown
tribal cairn
There would be more positive feedback, yes.
upper vault
True
So then once the game launches, will people be disappointed?
Or will they have more “hope” to BFV
Because the trailer was good
tribal cairn
Also, Celestine, I had assumed he was referring to the Aufklärungsabteilung, a Reconnaissance Division of a paramilitary sect of the German government.
I study these kinds of things, you see.
tribal cairn
It's all a matter of perspective with that.
upper vault
And they were disappointed
Yeah,
They would still have more hope if the trailer was good
So that means high sales
Which would improve the game overall
Because the hype causes more people to preorder
Then as time goes on
BFV gets better
But then goes bad again
And comes to where we are
tribal cairn
Well you see, there is also the long-run, in which that overhyping slowly dies down,
upper vault
But people would be more positive if the first trailer was good
tribal cairn
People start to lose expectations,
And then sustainable sales begin to go down
Because a game must make a great start, but must also maintain a good sustainable playerbase and feedback
compact oxide
The release/announcement means a lot, look at the positive announcement for BF1 vs BFV
upper vault
To be honest
tribal cairn
BF1 made an excellent start in comparison.
upper vault
BF1 had more content in terms of maps
tribal cairn
People absolutely loved it
upper vault
BFV has more content in other situations
compact oxide
Eh, I don't like most of the BFV content tbh
upper vault
I like that it has more vehicles to choose from
And more weapons
The carbines and all those
tribal cairn
BFV in my opinion has way too much of a grind.
upper vault
The same could said with BF1 as most of it was variants
If we didn’t have grind we would have to pay for DLC
upper vault
But as Raptor showed a picture
It showed that a very low percentage of people played all the Tsar maps DLC
fiery gust
upper vault
VERY low
icy sluice
3%
compact oxide
TOW is an awful system that just kills player enjoyment because it becomes more of a weekly chore than playing for fun
visual blade
Couldn’t of said it better
compact oxide
@upper vault most tsar maps never got voted for
upper vault
If ToW didn’t exist there is less of a reason to play BFV
icy sluice
I think like 5% of people played Gallipoli
upper vault
If it was DLC only, DICE would not be adding more content
We are getting the Pacific
I guess we can call that a “DLC”
compact oxide
One day
icy sluice
D-Day
compact oxide
And it'll probs be meh
storm marlin
Such a stupid decision for BfV to remove grand ops cutscenes between beta and launch
upper vault
Once the pacific launches, there is less of an argument to say BFV has few content
visual blade
they’re getting better
compact oxide
They're getting better, but still not something I'd even care for
tribal cairn
Yeah, I barely have enough CC as it is
upper vault
Iwo Jima is probably gonna be huge as the trailer shows
visual blade
that’s true. It’s not like we’re playing 3rd person to even see our cosmetics
compact oxide
If they put all of the effort back into weapon skins like the amazing legendary ones in BF1 then I'd be stoked
tribal cairn
Pacific will definitely be a ground breaker when it comes to Grand ops
compact oxide
Because gun cosmetics are something you see and feel
upper vault
Once the Pacific drops, and they implement it well, I would consider BFV a “good” game. That is if the bugs get squished and the hackers are gone.
Once the Eastern theatre is implemented well
tribal cairn
I'm just hoping Marines get awesome uniforms like the Frogman pattern and netted helmets.
upper vault
The entire game will redeem itself as a true BF game.
And at the end of the lifespan of BFV with a good amt of maps, I would say it’s better than BF1.
But that’s a long way
tribal cairn
Now the US has a very wide range of possible cosmetics
The 1st Infantry,
101st airborne,
Maybe some winter gear,
upper vault
I’m just surprised at the amount of vehicles
It’s a number I haven’t seen before
For the pacific
If we get destroyers and battleships that would be great
tribal cairn
65% Chance or more I bet they will make the Hellcat a unique kind of tank destroyer for the US
icy sluice
Boats are confirmed
icy sluice
¯_(ツ)_/¯
upper vault
In the pacific teaser I see some destroyers
tribal cairn
You know what would be interesting to see in the upcoming Pacific maps?
Japanese spider holes
Camouflaged foxholes basically
Soldiers would pop out of them to spring an ambush
upper vault
I want to see a flametrooper kit as a squad call in
Meanwhile a fortification for a tunnel
tribal cairn
I'd see it as a combat role that has limited use outside its range, but devastating in objectives. Downside is, the only way to refuel is at a vehicle resupply.
And it has very limited fuel
Only one per squad of course
We cannot have extreme spam
Because think of it this way,
Why have it as a squad call in, when the guy can just get shot 2-3 times and waste it?
It would be a waste of squad points
icy sluice
imo, if it were to be a squad call-in it would either be a supply canister, or you spawn in as the trooper
And you can squad spawn as the trooper
tribal cairn
We all know how terrible the situation was with that on BF1.
prime pine
The problem is
icy sluice
They were randomly placed tho, not point call ins
tribal cairn
But if that trooper can squad spawn,
prime pine
Do you make a fucking annoying flamethrower trooper with more health than the usual or have a soldier carry the flamethrower with normal health, making its more niche.
prime pine
Make it so that teammates can grab the flamethrower off your corpse
Rather it be a squad call in.
A good 10K worth of score to pay for.
tribal cairn
I say use it as a regular combat role, limited to only one person per squad, the flamethrower cannot be used if shot in the fuel canister and the man cannot be revived
Done
icy sluice
I think it's better for a supply canister to come in with it
Rather than magically becoming a flame trooper
prime pine
Would rather it be from a supply canister so that its more effective if that makes sense.
icy sluice
Also, a possibility to steal it
prime pine
Instead of a timed set location. You can prep yourself to attack it.
That'll be a travesty.
Some fucker stealing your flamethrower and burning your squad to death with it.
tribal cairn
To prevent stealing,
If they were to be shot in the fuel canister on the back,
They will erupt in flames and explode due to the violent reaction of the fuel
Rendering the flamethrower unusable
And the man no longer able to be revived
prime pine
If they ever make it an elite kit again. Than as mentioned. Make the fuel tank a major weakpoint. But i would rather not deal with some overcharged fucker with a weapon that literally melts people.
tribal cairn
God that brings me back to my days of TF2, ubercharged Pyros.
prime pine
Too bad there aren't many quake like scenarios kek. And by that i mean on quake you fire your lightning gun in water and kill everyone instantly including you.
So you can imagine some suicide attack by the flame troopers.
On that mention. I grabbed the wex on bf1 and i forgot how bullshit it was kek.
tribal cairn
Yeah, I never was a fan of fighting the wex
dark sorrel
BF1 Rush when you reach for the Wex is godly
tribal cairn
The guy took two full magazines to the face
prime pine
Its why i dont miss elite kits.
Bayonet charged a trench raider. That was true irony there.
dark sorrel
They kinda make sense in the context of helping the losing team turn it around
midnight nimbus
flamethrowers in BF are too weak
prime pine
It feels incredibly cheap. The kits.
midnight nimbus
if the elite didn't have armor, wex sentry would be a complete fucking meme
needs more range
dark sorrel
Though I would also argue that rubber banding mechanics are a little dumb
prime pine
Ironically the flamethrower on the churchill crocodile has so much range yet its fucking useless
Makes you wonder whats better
dark sorrel
What irks me with BF 1 is that Cavalry feels more effective as a class if you dismount and fight on foot at objectives
tribal cairn
Personally, I like a combat role flamethrower, they are as vulnerable as any other trooper, but they carry devastating firepower as the upside
Arguably, they can be more vulnerable
prime pine
You no longer have the armour off the horse as calvary. But its practically a much more effective aggressive recon with the russian 1895.
Sure no flares but the ammo and health pickups greatly increase your longevity.
midnight nimbus
Churchill flamethrower is dogshit
solid hinge
Whens the flamethrower coming to bfv?
solid hinge
I thought this chapter?
prime pine
Nah
midnight nimbus
or at least needs to match the power of the Sturmtiger grenade launcher
solid hinge
Along with the silencer pistol
prime pine
The trailer was false advertisement.
We wouldnt even be getting half the fucking weapons by the end.
tribal cairn
Pacific has so many possibilities- ambushing Ghillie Suit recons on the Japanese side, climbing in trees, camouflaged spiderholes, cramped tunnels, Flamethrowers.
Even naval artillery
Coastal assault via Higgans boats
prime pine
Ghillies and mmg's is a no. But ghillies and snipers/SLR's (no boys rifles) will be optimal.
solid hinge
@prime pine are you sure? We still have like 5 weeks to go
prime pine
Ill grab a list with what was advertised
visual blade
I’m just excited for the katana tbh
tribal cairn
Ghillies would be recon exclusive and only for the Japanese, since they were notorious for that. But with a major downside, Lens flare
solid hinge
I’m excited for the new gamemode, grand operations, new factions and new elites
solid hinge
Ow damn
prime pine
And before you guys say that the they're saving the American weapons for chapt 5, Why the fuck did they advertise them for chapt 4.
solid hinge
Just to make the hype
tribal cairn
Oh! For chapter six, they should make the invasion of Tripoli or Afrika
prime pine
Honestly want the m1 garand, m2 carbine, breda, chauchat, madsen, sjorgen and stake out. I dont care for anything else.
solid hinge
You just broke my heart
@tribal cairn no, D-Day or the eastern front
Already got bored of Afrika
prime pine
Eh, Don't hope for much. Dont mean to bring you down but this is dice who released a half aased product.
solid hinge
I hate desert maps
coarse thunder
Muh d day muh stalingrad
solid hinge
GIMME WESTERN OR THE EASTERN FRONT
tribal cairn
There's already Western front, just not on the American side of things
prime pine
I dont give a fuck what kind of map it is. If its a new map its a new map.
solid hinge
Nahhh
tribal cairn
Eastern front definitely has it's possibilities as well
solid hinge
No open maps
coarse thunder
I mean they could still do the Normandy campaign except the landings
solid hinge
Maps like twisted steel will do fine
tribal cairn
I'm mainly excited for maybe Kursk or Stalingrad
coarse thunder
Or the fight over the Ruhr region
solid hinge
@coarse thunder what about the other sectors instead of Omaha?
The ones with the british
coarse thunder
Nah
tribal cairn
That may also be interesting, change things up a bit
solid hinge
YES
We have so many ww2 games with omaha beach in it
Why not another sector this time?
tribal cairn
That is true.
coarse thunder
Even if they are relatively unknown to Americans, I'm willing to bet most bf5 players are tired of brits
tribal cairn
Let's be honest here, the American and Russian starting uniforms are going to be 100x better than what the Brits and Germans have.
solid hinge
I hope so
I don’t want them to be like cyberpunk outfits
More historical accurate by putting american divisions outfits in the game
tribal cairn
Aye, like the Bloody first.
solid hinge
The soviets were too poor to have the same outfits I think
coarse thunder
Considering most of the allied cosmetics are american based I support that
tribal cairn
Yeah, make them more ragged
tribal cairn
Black jumpsuits for the german tankers
solid hinge
I’ve the german pilot outfit but can’t equip it on my pilot...
coarse thunder
Soviets had rougher looking uniforms but they were relatively uniform so to speak
solid hinge
Yeah from the battle of the bulge
tribal cairn
The Soviets had organized uniforms, but for a great majority, they wore what they could find.
Also, keep in mind that they looked rougher because they weren't for show
coarse thunder
Veterans and frontline troops mainly were the ones doing that
tribal cairn
They were built purely for protection against the cold
Hugo Boss on the other hand,
solid hinge
Great we gotta play as hobbo’s
tribal cairn
Made very stylish uniforms
solid hinge
As long as we get the ppsh
solid hinge
Whats a dtrd
tribal cairn
It's a drum mag machine gun,
tribal cairn
Now for the anti material rifles,
We all know the PTRD will be expected
Highest base damage, but lowest rate of fire and muzzle velocity
solid hinge
Great another boys at
tribal cairn
Any AT Rifle would be like that, you realize.
midnight nimbus
no we need WW2 Barrett
tribal cairn
It's a bullet designed to break through rolled steel
coarse thunder
What was that Swedish AT rifle that was designed and used iirc in the ww2 period
coarse thunder
Because it's the closest thing to a Barret .50 iirc at the time
solid hinge
L-39
tribal cairn
40mm isn't too much considering the armor of later vehicles
Then again, AT rifles were the same
Armor grew more and more advanced
Bullets couldn't get past the armor
coarse thunder
Ye but at the time it was quite decent and led to the m/48, which could pierce 84mm
tribal cairn
84mm of flat armor.
At the time of its development,
Tanks had very little flat armor areas
solid hinge
There is an upper limit to what ANY man portable firearm can achieve in terms of armour penetration and destruction of heavy armoured vehicles. The round fired simply does not have enough kinetic energy to be a viable anti tank weapon. I am totally against any buffing of AT rifles in the name of game balance when there are so many anti tank weapons and gadgets already on the battlefield right now
tribal cairn
Most caught on to the idea of angling the armor
coarse thunder
Still wouldn't want my stug 3s and panzer 4s roaming around with open tracks
stoic breach
Theres barely any ranged counter to tanks
cyan fog
👀
stoic breach
Thats why tanks camp
prime pine
Assaults can easily tear a tank up compared to bf4
solid hinge
tanks camp because unless they have the anti infantry spec tree attacking is suicide
midnight nimbus
lmfao what
2 RPGs to kill a tank in BF4 if you hit the back
PIATs do like what?
prime pine
Wouldnt that be rare
prime pine
I honestly died more to c4 than rockets
midnight nimbus
SRAW is scary mang
coarse thunder
20-30 damage on a tank if they hit a part at a flat angle
midnight nimbus
shits good
tribal cairn
AT Rifles are a good alternative at the moment for fighting tanks at a distance until we get the Bazooka and Panzershreck
prime pine
Part damage fucks over tanks. Not being able to move properly gets so fucking tiring.
At least in bf4 you were disabled for a short time
midnight nimbus
yeah BFV handles crit damage really poorly
also passive recovery of crits in BF4 👌
prime pine
Wish we had a system similar to mechwarrior
solid hinge
tanks are so nerfed its a joke.. most days now infantry run toward tanks in the hope of an easy kill, which is 180 degrees from actual battle, and while I understand game balance, nerfing tanks even more is just ridiculous
midnight nimbus
nah tank combat in BFV is so ezmode compared to 4
I can get rekt in 4 unless I'm playing really well
or I'm playing scrubs
there's so much shit that can kill you
tribal cairn
Assault has way too much of the AT equipment
midnight nimbus
assaults aren't even a threat in V
coarse thunder
Instant dismount plus instant turret turning speed 😂 👌
prime pine
You cant even fucking aim when moving
tribal cairn
Medic has the grenade launcher
And recon has only one thing to protect themselves against a tank
prime pine
Faster tanks plus more part health i would honestly have no problem with.
midnight nimbus
return to how BF4 handled shit
prime pine
Eh
prime pine
Im happy as a support with my 12G.
raven solstice
medics getting shotguns doesnt mean no shotguns for supports
they can both have them
coarse thunder
Smgs are the most balanced class weapon rn, 2nd place is lmgs
raven solstice
like a stakeout for medic would be nice, and a sawed of 2 barrel
prime pine
Sawed off is ours.
coarse thunder
Smoke+shotgun cancer fest especially with smoke being the best it has ever been
solid hinge
How about don’t touch the medic class or give it more smgs?
tribal cairn
Why does any class need it?
prime pine
Im honestly surprised that we got shotguns
tribal cairn
Also, I wouldn't want assault getting shotguns either
prime pine
Unlimited ammo helps a lot
tribal cairn
That was a mess in BF1
raven solstice
of medics had worse shotguns than support i think they could fit in the class perfectly
solid hinge
WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE IN THE GRAND OPS MATCH
raven solstice
like lesser range/pellet count
tribal cairn
Shotguns are still shotguns
raven solstice
shotguns arguably fit the medic class better than they fit support anyways
ptfo gun for a ptfo class
coarse thunder
Then where would smgs go
stoic breach
Assault SMG
raven solstice
i think the medic should get its own shotguns
coarse thunder
This mans still playing with the mindset during the unwanted ttk change where everything got a bullet more to kill @solid hinge
raven solstice
like a 4 shot pump action with no stock
grim pilot
I feel like medics are known for rifles and fit a medic decently but also a shotgun would allow for easier close range healing and revives with the space it can make
coarse thunder
SMGs fit medic nicely
raven solstice
and btw i would bet im a better player than you, i can work around any gun mint
raven solstice
sten, mp40, suomi, tommy
grim pilot
SMGs are good if you know how to use them
coarse thunder
No bullshit standing at range unlimited health and no bullshit insta healing buckshot blaster
midnight nimbus
assault SMG + shotguns was fine
coarse thunder
I don't doubt that you're better than a person who plays once a week lol
grim pilot
I find it odd how few medics actually revive people
raven solstice
yep
stoic breach
Cause its not fun
coarse thunder
Wrong place wrong time for most people
raven solstice
free points are fun, wow
midnight nimbus
medic ARs please
raven solstice
no
solid hinge
Lol
stoic breach
Yes