#battlefield-legacy-titles
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ping dice and ea? admins aren't 
@sleek trail Here are the beta dates
September 12-13: PS4 Pre-Order Beta
September 14-16: PS4 Open Beta
September 19-20: PC/XB1 Preorder Beta, PS4 Open Beta
September 21-23: PC/XB1/PS4 Open Beta
Take it to General for Cod stuff
shut up they asked
Oof September
Open beta
yup
not working
I love it that a cod is going to be good, this will wake up dice and theyll prob make a better game 
beta for bfv was fun
@solid hinge help
pls no ping admins
Google it? 
@sonic rampart or release another Elite 😂
Firestrom

Imagine BF series shut down
@solid hinge what’s the best gun in battlefield 5
Depends on your style of gameplay
the liberator @wanton idol
Liberator
Fortification Hammer 

STG 44 is a good gun
For which class?
@wanton idol Heilregal is best gun in BFV
M1 Garand
og god

Engineer
Bren is a good one for 
Its ok we all sucked at the start
Big mag by default, clean 3x scope, high accuracy and decent rate of fire
400 deaths and 150 kills
F
8k kills to 3k deaths 
First time I played team fortress 2 I literally couldn't even hit someone for about 10 hours
You'll get better
I don't lo
No worries

I’ve had battlefield for like 4 months I just don’t play too often
mmg campers
Just play bf1 tbh
true

I might give another go for BF1
Lewis is a safe choice for support
Which gun
It's all about practice
Go into the practice range
Singleplayer stories 


Man, the war stories sucked in Bf5. Each one felt like a political message
LOL
what's the political message of BILLY FUCKIN' BRIDGER
Under No Flag is basically saying bad people can do good things
wut
The French one is that black people fought in ww2
Nordlys basically reminds you that “hey women of all ages were in ww2”

And The Last Tiger is “Hey, not all Nazis were bad guys!”

Look at BF1’s war stories and compare them to BF5. It feels like they focused more on political shit than actual story
Not all Germany we're nazis
I know
Nazis knew what they will do and have done
But it’s Dice
Half the war stories are unrealistic
And the French story is real, but the way they make it seem is awful.
And you @rapid hatch , should be ashamed of yourself for liking them.
The French one wasn’t too bad, but it felt more like a match with bots.
Campaigns?
So, what is the purpose of these elite soldiers beside just a new looking character? Why are they asking money for a new character? Are there hidden attributes with each new elite?
Just cosmetics
Yep, just what i thought, Dice money grab.
When I say I liked the French war story the most, I mean it was the least worst one
My old tactic is to just not engage with cosmetic shit at all
Never change from the default stuff in any game
Don't use any random drops
is it just me or marita servers get less chapter xp per match than usual
I don't have much interest in cosmetics
Yea, Warframe was perfect for that crap. Cosmetic stan around with my highly tuned model
I'll stick something pink on if I get the chance
TF2 is a perfect example of cosmetics being bullshit
Perfectly designed characters with easily defined silhouettes being covered in pointless shit
pls, next patch dice will accidentally turn elite soldiers completely invisible 
"accidentally"
@rapid hatch I’m kidding lol
gun included btw
The cosmetics for BF V run the gamut of "awful bullshit" to the lofty heights of "slightly better than the default stuff"
Am I the only one who doesn’t run weapon skins?
They made them way too complicated in game. I don’t understand why every part of a weapon has its own skin
Yeah I don't bother
I like the personal customisation.
Just want a unique skin for the fg42. Has a lot more value than the base skins.
The only skin i think i wouldn't want is survivalist
For it. Its not the worst skin but its not my favourite out of the special skins.
Last tiger lost all my respect when it had that dramatic scene about sending the kid out and then 3 minutes later you got out to assault an AA position on foot
I mean true thay some of if weren't sense making, but i mean the poor kid though who got sent out
;-;
And i also understand why ya got out on foot, your tank was getting bombed to hell and ya needed to take out the enemy advantage over that :3
Y'know what I really likes
liked*
That bit in Through Mud and Blood in BF 1 when you get stuck in the mud and the Germans are literally crawling on the tank to get in
Can somebody tell me tips about the new map
I really like how it comes out of nowhere, there's no big sign being like "Set Piece Coming Up!!!!"
anyone else noticed the chineese invasion on eu servers?
did they add a new faction?
i wish it was but in all ey servers we have hackers with 300 pings wipeing all out with 1 plane burst spray on the ground
eu servers
scince marita they moved from na servers to eu
So I'm thinking of reinstalling BF V
Is it worth it or should I stay on BF 1?
stay on bf1 bfv is in a massive slump right now with increased hacking
hackers at bf1?
no bfv
@dark sorrel dude my favorite part from that is near the end where the tank commander makes his final stand
That and the pigeon scene
Install them both.
I wonder if DICE watches MW trailer and be like "This is fine"
They're probably just hoping Activision finds a new way to take the piss regarding microtransactions before it releases
It's going to make ton of profit than what Battlefield V made
Imagine if battlefield adds a Cod fish as an easter egg
That'll be kinda funny if they do
A dead cod fish
Raptor pulled a sneaky one on ya didn't i?
Wait guys
"Heh I'm sure Activision will get people to pay for ammo... right???"
The selling point of this new cod is the Door mechanics
Just like how it was the glass in mw2
Or the fish Ai in ghosts
True, but the old Rainbow six game had that mechanic too for doors
the only skin we need is that cool ass pilot skin we saw in the firestorm trailer
I’d pay 20$ for that shit
It was just a pilot helmet on the pit crew torso and legs
Ehhh pilots and tank crew should be customizable just for stuff like that tbf
what you dont like your female tanker that you cant customize?
also weird how the tanker is female yet the coughs inside your tank when it is on fire is male
are there enough people playing this still to not wait 5-10 mins for match making? downloading the game now
never played before
yeah the game isn't dead lol
ok good
i can easily kill, but i die by the players hiding in bushes
In fire storm, me and my friend always play it passive-aggressive, mainly setting up ambushes or holding up in an area away from the main action
At least until the final contestants
It's essentially only me and my friend, 2 people against what could possibly be 5 people with each encounter
So we have to be passive
i try to be aggressive but you can only get so far
Personally, I always stick by my one priority: survive
Not to get kills,
But to gather equipment and survive while everyone else kills eachother off,
Then I can allow myself to kill the stragglers
If i get good gear, them i'm on the hunt
landed last game opened 3 boxes and 2 houses, only gun was a pistol 
I got good loot my last game, a Boys AT Rifle and about 5 bullets for it, and a FG42

Only problem?
it's the BOYS? lol
I was surrounded on all sides by a angry mob of squads
haha
Can I see all weapon skins anywhere?
If anyone could help me, I get this “error code 1” issue when playing Bfv
Well, more specifically
I join a server
The server changes map
Immediately I am disconnected
Tried to join the server again and it says error code 1
have you restarted the application?
Hm,
and platform?
ok let me know 😃
Heavy tanks are so shit at this game that you havr to spawn camp or snipe ppl
Oh my god I hate fjell so much
Heavy arent always good
Fjell is awful, i just run as medic
If you are attacking, you can get so many points to as medic
everyone camps, they die... revive 
I only play breakthrough otherwise firestorm 

fjell is my guilty pleasure ngl
love finding weird spots on cliffs and just farming with a SAR
the visible issue is still a thing on that map
still if im playing fjell 6/10 times im in a bomber
as with most things in bfv
it can be solved with a bomber
yo fs squad 1
!!lfg
ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation
@fierce tendon
yep, join?
I've been enjoying the STG 44 tbf
Yes it's a good gun man
I mean y'all use the 1907
STG 44 and M95
The sturmgewer 1-5
I started getting all guns maxed and I don't know why but I just didn't like that one
I play with the MP40
On fire storm get me a kar I don't need a scope
nothing has recoil on console
Ehhhhh
Jokes on you tho
But that's one gun man 😂
Have you used the 1907 on const
No it's just easier to control man
Yeah very t
Imagine Gun Master in BFV
Because the recoil is the same
I would love that
console gets less recoil than PC
Kinda
25% less vertical, 25% weaker pattern yaw
I wish
GSMOD_CONSOLE in the files 😉
no recoil for me pls 
can you read?
So did you guys watch westies video yet?
[18:37] kht120: 25% less vertical, 25% weaker pattern yaw
it's not as easy to control bc lol joysticks, but console does have less recoil
Well that is you but this is a pointless argument rn
I mean the lesser recoil is to compensate for the fact that joysticks aren't as precise
that's all
Actually me really thinking about it the fliegerfaust is kinda scary
Especially in high numbers
anyone else having it take ages to get in a game
Isn't that plane wreck strangely located?
It crash landed and turned nearly 180 to face the hangar doors
While leaving most of the shelves and other stuff intact.
Hey why are the BF1 servers filled with FULL german servers?
There are like 7 full Germans
because that is where the European servers are
@steel agate maybe it was damaged so it landed and was towed into the hanger
Nah not towed into the hangar, the wings are up on the upper balcony area, that would be some bad towing @formal valve
Well yeah
because my friends buy the game and then don't play it with me (I'm american)
Irl
😦
@topaz dome Do you do manual server searches?
There are always servers up in the USA
I never have problems finding matches, unless it's Firestorm
oh ok lol
1:10 PM] Mirko: Hey why are the BF1 servers filled with FULL german servers?
[1:10 PM] Mirko: There are like 7 full Germans
1:11 PM] Mirko: Why are there so many euros in the game
[1:11 PM] Mirko: When there are barely any americans
my problem is my friends don't play bfv with me 
When you turn on the tv and the first thing on is a Hurler Youth documentary
Me: fuck off! I’m not a Nazi, I swear!
Stop showing me this crap
Nazi megastructures
nazi ministructures

Hello guys
One question
I just bought a weapon from the store
How can i use it
What do you mean?
you buy a skin?
@steel agate Wrong game
I was talking about BF1
I unninstalled BFV long time ago
never looked back

damn
you got rekt
i would say literally everything?
theres not one thing about bf1 thats better than bfv
aside from the fact that bf1 is an actual full game that also works?
okay i will say the content added to bf1 was better than content added to bfv so far
not really a fair comparison
bfv has the potential to release better content
but gameplay, guns, mechanics, movement, all better in bfv
classes and squad roles
vehicles are better, planes, tanks
attrition defenders 🤢
BF1 had more “content” in terms of maps
BFV has less maps
But kind of better gameplay
Beside the visibility
And the lack of 3D spotting
i still on developing
no 3d spotting is one of the best changes
if bf1 didnt have 3d spotting you'd complain about same thing
just gotta get good eyes
Folks on console can’t see stuff far away that well
Unless you have a one x
That’s because everything is pixelated and doesn’t render in clearly
bf1 was better on console?
yeah, BFV causes a lot of people to run out of VRAM
Yes
that's why invisible soldiers happens iirc
BF1 has better render view
culling out skins
Wow
Also yeah BFV runs better than BF1 on console but looks worse because of the dynamic resolution scaling I'm pretty sure
Not always reliable tho
even if they modified the maps for different game modes i'd be happy
nope stopped playing it years ago 
mw gonna be good for sute
they come out with a somewhat decent game, and then ruin it with micro transactions
Sure
same will happen with modern warfare
Nah
absolutely
its all marketing
release it withou the bullshit
and then slowly add it in over time
and then by the time its completely ruined the next game will be announced
I've been saying this for a little
And infinity ward aint like the others but okay
said all the right things how they are gonna change
they said that about treyarch
when black ops 4 was coming out
that they arent like infinity ward
because of infinity ward making crap call of duty game the year before
its the same cycle every year
Iw was shit but no microtrasaction problems
Leaks suggest that MTX will be even more aggressive
IW is true
@solid hinge IW had mtx problems, variants
they come a bit later, after reviews
Like, I'll try the beta but not touch it at all afterwards
Idfk
14 sept on ps4
community makes you think MTX ruins the game
analytics tell a different story
mfw the YouTubers who aggressively call against it still play the game
well , yeah. gievs a lot of views
P2W MTX 
I see it's going to be awful with mtx
I wish the patch on Flim Flam was fixed
Theyre not in a position to pull bullshit after a streak of failed games
I dont think any of the CoD games failed
December is going to have shit mtx
I'm done with the CoD series permanently. Unless they break their formula and go the Battlefield route of big maps and combined arms I'm not gonna shill money out
Even still, gameplay looks the exact same
I havent even seen the gameplay yet
It do tho
Not really
it really does
Youve seen the recoil
It looks like bf3 but no blue filter
Recoil in mw non exisent?
in the #battlefield-legacy-titles thread
okay
heres some ideas for Chapter 5 England VS Germany vehicles: King Tiger/Royal Tiger/Tiger II and Maus. Sherman Firefly and Cromwell
Lol
Its the pacific...
That's a good one
Because they're exclusively going to add heavy and medium tanks lmao
chapter 5 is the pacific
Just edit your post so it says 6 and then everyone will agree ;D
They're gonna add TDs and AA tanks along with light ones as well when the time comes
Thanks! (Also sorry to interrupt the flow of conversation 😉)
So, I've been Kicked from two different -[DICE]- servers on the PS4 and I wanted to know how I could check their legitimacy? I thought I'd escape from the badmins by playing on DICE servers but it turns out they're just as bad...
Why tho
Why tho wat
Kicked
Why
For killing someone with a gun (Y'know that thing you're supposed to do?)
What?
Ye
More specifically?
And how
For being inactive or cheating mainly
Yeah but he wasnt either so?
That's the latest one^
This one happened a few days ago^
Guess even DICE has badmins then
Probs just dice being tarted as alwats
Always
I literally haven't been able to play this game lately because I'm getting kicked so much. Now even DICE admins are doing it...
Why are you getting kicked tho
For being too gud I guess
Whats.your kd?
But in those last two links I sent I wasn't even doing that gud
How do I check?
Would anyone be down to try and get a Rush game going on BF1 PC, US East? Once it gets enough players to start, I feel it will run for a time
Career tab
L2 and caree
Career
Or just battlefield tracker on google
Yeah
How do I check via PS4 menu?
isn't dice servers usually [DICE] OFFICIAL and stuff?
the -[dice]- tag makes me think they're trying to pass it off as official
Put your epic gamer name in there and press the magnifying glass
Says I'm rank 10... Hmmm.....
Whats ur ign
My what now?
In game name
BEATNGU42 (PS4)
@solid hinge where you from
Dublin, Ireland
Ur kd is 1.6
Eww
nani
That's not gud
Yeah not that great considering how easy its to have a 2.0 in this game
I mean my kd on bf4 is like -69 but at least i have a good one in bfv
@solid hinge It says I'm rank 10 beside that though. I'm 128
Oh is this a different bf title
My bad I was using bf5 tracker
Yeah I don't like that game so much
That's my excuse anyways
Which bf game
BF4.
Wait what
And dont blame u for not liking bf5, its a bit shit innit
why doesn't ps4 version show ping. might be kicked for ping or something
orrr, you could try and contact origin support. see what they might have to say.
A large portion of it does
My BF4 KD = 2.140
Still not that good
thats good but no too good
So ping?
Pong?
ree
How do I even go about checking Ping on console?
yohttps://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/cm0nzb/battlefield_4_compared_to_battlefield_v_august/
highlights the differences between BF4 & BFV in August of 2014/2019
holy shit BF4 was a dumpster fire
Does your ping change in different servers/regions?
so many blue links
Well one man's trash is another's treasure
in August 2014, people were locked out of DLC. People who paid for premium couldnt access any of the DLC maps
shit was bad
game kept crashing
Let me tell u either way, ping is the time it takes for ur data to transfer to the server and back
Yeah but no one talks about that
If its between say 10-60 youre good
Beyond that it can get iffy
and even those who were lucky enough to get the DLC maps to register, they would crash during loading screen
but hey, BFV BAD BF4 GOOD
Preferably youd have as low of a ping as possible
they only talk about how bfv sucks and will never be good even tho bf4 was litteral trash and turned out a gem
yea
@fluid tusk no one is saying that bf4 didn't have issues. It was unacceptable then and it is just as unacceptable now.
Yeah bfv bad bf4 gud ooga booga
Dif between bf5 & 4 is premium tho
Doesn't tell you your ping on console @solid hinge
Yeah I was thinking bf4 didnt show ping
right bf4 doesnt show ping
but bf4 got better with every patch. bfV launched fine and gets worse every patch. That's the difference
@marble cosmos if you compare the issues between both games at the same time period, BFV's bugs pale in comparison
again
I have a post comparing the top bugs
Heres what google says on checking ping on ps4: ** To use it, open your ps4 web browser. In the address bar type: http://www.whatsmyip.org/ping/ Thats it, now you know your ping.**
bfv bugs? Whats bugs tho seriously there are no major bugs rn
@marble cosmos also, thats a laugh
Bruh moment
How about getting stuck in the spawn screen bug
Or not being able to respawn bug
Doesnt happen to me anymore
So that means they dont exist?
Nah fam
BF4 got better with every patch
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-4/BF4-PC-massive-fps-drops-rubberbanding-issues-since-DT-DLC/m-p/3295383#M143347
fucking kek
Never heard of them for monthd tho
Bfv is fine ffs
Far from fine mate
it's definitely not fine
Even bug free there are so many things that could be improved
Theres a large amount of considerable bugs
@solid hinge at least its better than
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-4/Operation-Mortar-Crash-on-loading-screen/m-p/3317939#M144644
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-4/Latency-problem-BF4-PC/m-p/3320385#M144768
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-4/PC-Premium-Access-but-not-able-to-play-Naval-Strike-maps/m-p/3248865#M141491
..considerably large amount of bugs?
bugs.
look dude havent encoutered a single major bug since the invisible soldier patch
How is it better than that when thats happened here too
Xbox would literally crash on some maps
And seeing how many issues bf4 had we shouldnt even be having this convo because this is BF5 a sequel
And before the invisible patch, that was the only bug
bugs in bfv never made my game crash. dx12 just makes it stutter and crash though. but i blame dx12 for that xD
These bugs shouldnt exist at this point
not true, bugs are a natural part of game development
B F V B A D B F 4 G. U T
Look at any AAA game that has released in the past year
What game has this many major bugs
ooga motherfuckin booga
Ok what majot bugs
Ok what bugs?
Tell e
I made a server full of enemies today 
Invisible soldiers bug
Death screen bug
Not being able to respawn bug
Game crashes are still prevelant
Al sundan changes your FoV on spawn
Hit reg issues
Net code issues
Screen shake bug in tanks and stationary guns
Need more?
Invisible soldier bug is gone
Not completely yet
The dead soldiers hanging in the air is weird
Yes
I only experience a couple of those bugs
Ita nice visually but gameplay wise ita ass
Naw i love marita
I like it gameplay wise
I saw one today where the guy was hanging then got revived and shot straight up and looked like a mannequin
Both visually and gamplay wise
For me definitely one of the best maps
^
^
Are they going to add it to other game modes?
Invisible soldier largerly gone, idk what death screen bug is, not being able to respawn on squadmates happens because theres no room to spawn, not a bug, crashes happen in every fucking game ever, al sundan yes but not very major, no major hit reg issues, no major net code issues no screen shake for me and like everyone i know. Happy
Ho boy
ok back
MW with no minimap in 20v20
Not being able to respawn on squadmates isnt a bug I know and I’d never claim it is lol
You haven’t seen the floating dead people before?
i have an old video of one
Shouldve probably been more specific but what I meant is the bug where you die but cant respawn like at all
they are so rare that its the only one Ive seen
yep
Maybe rare for you but that doesnt mean others dont experience them regularly
Haven't crashed in awhile...
The squad wipe messes up your spawning probably
posted it early july
And let me tell u more bugs and see what u say to them
i get severe hitreg issues
Pm mr
Me
i have done since the game released
hit reg falls into latancy
Hitting people for 200+ points
I just want the netcode fixed
Its not latency
it doesnt fall into latency
which is on the list of bug reports
Its desync
I hit a tiger 20 times
I dont nor do most players so thats your prom
0 registered apart from the glance shots
I have bugs where it says I have stuff in the armory but when I go there it says “no shipments available “
the bugs are still minor in comparison to 4
Thats a really weird client issue
Ok let's just hope the next patched fixes hitreg/netcode issues
I have hope this time
I got bugs where no people load and it’s just a default sillouete
they fixed invisible soldiers, so I dont see why not
So do you people just come here to complain about game and don’t play?
Those are the only bugs, yet people act likes irs fallout 76
We do play
We do play
@uneven oxide yea, everyone gets that. its the same issue as what people call "minecraft trees". just a rendering /LODissue.
Yeah we do play
Ah ok
Thr bf communiyy is fucking pathetic
agreed
Could not fetch your report bug
T posing friendlies after a revive bug
Revive stopping randomly bug
Soldier floating in the air bug
Missing sprint animation bug (rare)
Missing view bobbing bug
Tank emergency repair not being able to be used bug
Your reload coexisting with a revive bug
Tank shells not doing any damage to other tanks bug
Dude tf is that shit?
Tbh yeah
There are so many more small bugs
Ok we get it
They all just add up
i like to think of myself as an old BF player, from the early days
Dice needs to fix the hit reg omg
but are they major?
Bugs everywhere
Not really majot most of them
They are major when they add up
i love that tiger video
Theres this guy in OCE who physically does not get a playermodel
it was 20 shots total I think
yes
Oof
tanks always had a stupid amount of bugs
Tanks are a bug in general
Not to this level lmao
Needs to be fixed
Not perfrect ofc, but good nonetheless
It isnt and saying it is does nobody any favors
about 1 in 3 tanks i come across i cant damage until i reposition
@solid hinge you sure? go check BF3's bug reports about tanks
i do not consider a 66% success rate in shooting an opponent good
shits were damn near invincible
Does it only count glances?
Stop fucking crying for 5 mins will you
BF3 tanks arent even close to BF5 tanks bug wise
But honestly im just a pilot XD
Half the time it doesnt count anything
Wow
I dunno why the glances counted on that tiger one
And even if they were isnt that an absolutely stupid thing to even say anyway when BF3 came out like what, 8 years ago now
I like tanks
@solid hinge were you playing BF3 during its launch or are you one of the people who hopped on near the end?
You arent even getting desync
Oh boy...
I know
also 8 years doesnt mean much when your an adult

wtf with my BFV
Admittedly I didnt get the chance to play bf3 at launch no
Its not even packet loss either
Uhh
Its never me, its always the gamr
I havnt been in school in 9+ years.
Thats just upsetting
Wtf
Cheating outside PC in bf5 doesnt really exist
^
I get (more than) occasional hitreg failure on foot, but tanks are bizarre
I dont encounter any bugs anymot
Fr who hacks on console LMAO
I will say that dealing with cheaters is basically just playing whack a mole
I get slight hitreg issues because of desync
Before I went up vs that tiger I got in two more tank fights where they were the ones who couldnt hurt me
you fix one exploi/ cheaters find another
I got hackussed on ps4 the other day
Its like a few milliseconds delay but it gets me killed
You known when you run behind cover and still die
thats just the nature of having an open platform
While getting shot
I've played bfv since LAUNCH and haven't encountered not 1 hacker
tfw you die nine metres behind cover
@coral fiber cause youre on xbox lol
Yeah heavy desync
No shit lmao
People make it seen like bfv is litterally unplayable wirh a hacker in every match lol
Theres physically nothing you can do about it
I keep an eye out for the symbols but they rarely show up
When they do show up it usually feels laggy
I think its your ISP
There might be network congestion or something
The tank one only happens in tanks
Thats the only thing I can think of
Makes me think it's a specific thing
Yeah probably
It usually resets when you move
Idk, its weird
I WILL REPEAT MYSELF FROM THE SAME THING I SAID DURING BF4
BATTLEFIELD GAMES ARE GAMES YOU HAVE TO STICK WITH AND RIDE OUT THE BAD WAVE
You invest in them
So like.. makes me wonder if theres something up with it
not just buy, play, then toss like other games
If BFV gets all its bugs fixed it'll still be crap
You see enemy tank shells go way off target and still hit you
@stoic breach sounds like bias
bfv is not even that bad tho its solid
BF1 doesnt have attrition
BF1 was a casualized shitfuck
So I am biased
I personally would like bfv the most if it was just stable
Because it was more fun
@stoic breach sounds like your biased to BF 1942/Vietnam/2 then
I dont care about Battlefield being casualised because its a casual game
3 great games
Bf1 gunplay makes me wanna burn the disk
all had attrition
Imo bfv is the best bf on ps4
oh gott, its @midnight nimbus
I felt like bf1 took a year to kill some times
if you build a game that not everyone can play, you'll have a hard time selling millions
the teenager who things he knows everything
not a teenager but ok
BF has to be casual to some degree bc it's expected to be a top seller
@midnight nimbus your right, the person younger than a teenager
I have bf4, bf1, and v ofc
come to discuss how COD is peak game design, again?
Bf4 will always be my favourite
nah, just saying that "casual" isn't a bad thing
BF4 is not my favorite
i prefer bfv
Mechanically BF5 is the best imo
"casual" is a really good thing in many ways
or the fact that it treated Draw Distance as jungle fog
Bf nam is pretty cool
@midnight nimbus shoo, go away
For player experience though ehhhh bf5 isnt quite there
Bruh
which is why people love the gunplay
vietnam is and will forever be the game I refer to when Im talking the greatest BF game ever
Bad Company was shit balls
3 and 4 pale to Vietnam
I agree with that kht, thats why its so easy to maintain a 2+kd in this game
even 2 falls second
I didn’t like 5 when it came out so I went back to 1 and decided I liked 5 better
Battlefield Vietnam 2020 dice plz
people love ezmode blasting in FPS
One of the reasons i keep playing bfv
The gunplay
I love it so much
I want my damn tiger striped M79 BACK!!!
There are so many potatoes in BF5 as well
Dont understand where theyre coming from
Right i went back to bf1 after v and it was a horendous experience
Idk dude, I dont think ive seen this level of potatoness in any other game
that's why so many games have mechanics to increase awareness to make everyone more aware and aggressive
i dislike when kht tries to act smart
Like you see enemies and friendlies shooting side by side often in bf5
Why doe
BF3 did it to become a hype bestseller
Ive noticed 1 is alot more fast paced and 5 is slower
True bfv has more taters than ireland
minimap spotting is the big one
He gives details tf do you mean
Wakka38702/12/2019
as for what KHT said, there are far more objectives in tactical shooters outside of getting the most kills
kht12002/12/2019
which is what people ultimately play FPS for
Tavitian02/12/2019
But you will die
If you Rambo
kht12002/12/2019
you can't accomplish objectives without shooting enemies```
Tbf yeah I can see that
When you cant just see your enemy on the map 24/7 its more about your awarness etc
This day and age not many are used to that
when the bulk of your playerbase plays on console with a TV and speakers
Lmao
reducing awareness to whats in front of you and on your speakers makes awareness tough
Wakka38702/12/2019
no clue why im trying to give kht a history lesson of tactical shooter genre
kht12002/12/2019
it's a good thing it's dying
And playing on console is bad apparently?
it's not
Not really
i'm just talking ab what limits the bulk of the playerbase in awareness
playing on anything is fine
Im on console with speakers l
Yeah
FPS becoming big on console with mostly TV and speakers is why FPS moved towards things like minimap spotting
I used headset ofc
Helps with dogfighting
its just the dumbdumbs that say "PEEE CEEE MUSTARD VACE HURR DURRR"
I dont use headphones cause I talk to people on discord while playing
pc mustard race
Im big for disagreeing with kht but thats not what hes even implying here
So I have to rely on my monitor speakers
even at a high level for people with better hardware, more "casual" features help
im a former indie game dev, who also enjoys both PC and consoles
"casual" games and "casual" features aren't a bad thing at all
He was simply stating why the potato “culture” is so prevelant in bf5
i am a multiplat master race person
really what made FPS a bigger genre with bigger playerbases
the removal of "casual" features is why so many people are potato
Casual in fps is bad
the fuck does potato even mean
not necessarily
sounds like some idaho shit
Just makes players bad
in an age of AAA games with >$100m budgets, you need "casual" features to make sales
Potato=idaho
Lmao
Potatos are useless playes
Potato means a player who isnt capable for situational awarness
Yes ^
The type of geeza to walk past enemies and not revive a player next to them
The point is that games are made with features to help potato players be less potato and help the team
Yes^
@solid hinge sometimes when shits going on, you just dont notice someones camping next to a corpse until its just too late
And the reason bf5 has more of them is because removal of those help features like 3d spotting
you get into a rhythmm of "revive and move on"
Sometimes yes but im not talking about people like that
FPS really heavily centralizes audio and visual acuity, and when that's unrealistic with the hardware that the majority of players are locked on, you gotta give them a helping hand
The malaka who has everything on stock and doesnt see a foe in front of him
If you give people 3d spotting they will never have good awareness
i don't mind the occasional shooter that wants to go back to the days before "casual" features, but i think removing these features from a modern AAA shooter doesn't really fly
I can agree with that tbf
Theyre gonna relly on doritos instead of actually seeing the enemy
i mean you still have to see the doritos lol
As much as I enjoy no 3d spotting and attrition I can see why it would be better for the whole community to have things like they were
you'll never make millions of sales making a game that can only be played well with a high res monitor and headphones
But you could make the point that change needs to happen and is inevitable
because the majority of your players don't have them
Its just accessibility features as well
you need a game where little Timmy can play it on his TV and get at least get a 1 K/D because he can aim good and blast people
because that's your majority playerbase
Bfv is full of potatoes tho
Wasnt that established circa 12 minutes
kd is also dependent on playstyle
even as a better player, i don't find it super interesting just blasting players with worse situational awareness
it's like playing a PVE game at that point
K/Ds are stupid
bringing up everyone's situational awareness to a higher minimum makes for more aggressive gameplay
thats the problem with internet culture, people want to use arbitary numbers to wank oveer
back in my days, those things never mattered
again, it's fine if you don't want this, but you gotta see how it's necessary for a AAA title
you played, had fun, thats it
8th ?
Ok thx
Havent played in 4 days
I think the way to go about fps should be closer to what overwatch is
I would really like minimap spotting in BFV
no
More team based efforts over individual ramboing
The game is totally designed for camping
please not overwatch
i mean OW is fine for being its own MMO-FPS hybrid thing
minimap takes away the challenge

in a bit