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solid hinge
Al sundan look like a decent desert map tbh
solid hinge
though i dislike it squad conquest variant
marble phoenix
Al Sudan is gonna betop 5 on Conq
sonic rampart
I love that the planes start on the ground
solid hinge
al sundan on conquest is a sniper dream
sonic rampart
You know what I really miss
solid hinge
airstrips?
marble phoenix
al sudan not on conq yet
marble phoenix
i miss choppers
upper vault
God,
upper vault
It should release before the 5v5 game make hits
sonic rampart
We would spawn in
upper vault
Maybe this week
sonic rampart
Kill the enemy chopper
solid hinge
Imagine camping the airstrips in al sundan and dynamiting every planes that spawn 
solid hinge
yea but they would spawn with people in them
solid hinge
true
sonic rampart
Omg
solid hinge
but i'd like to annoy them
sonic rampart
What if you camp
solid hinge
😄
solid hinge
is that even possible
solid hinge
neat
feeling like playing bf4 ngl
It's a shame bf doesn't have 128 players or something
you have idiots in the company who seek close quarters shit
upper vault
Al Sundan feels like a map where you will get killed by a plane more times than a soldier.
visual blade
I don’t think console can handle it?
solid hinge
I mean
50v50 in cod but not in bf
they could do somethig like BF3 where only PC gets it then the next game after that supports it
Come on Dice
not even 128
at least 100
upper vault
Squad has 40v40 and it’s an indie game.
visual blade
cods 50v50 has me excited
midnight nimbus
I don't even like playing big player count modes, it's probably just important for BF to have to create hype
solid hinge
I'm going to be serious
we need less people like kht if we want the game to actually suceed
I mean we need people like him but too many of those people make the game terrible
because if your game definer is a person who plays the smaller gamemodes in a game which was always designed for large scale gamemodes then he's not a good output
additionally just because you get a high KDR doesn't make you someone who knows everything about the franchise's future
DICE comes with a 5v5 gamemode and Infinity ward with a 50v50
Lol
midnight nimbus
I totally get how BF needs to do the big game mode thing
upper vault
Larger game modes is needed.
midnight nimbus
but i personally was never a fan, and i liked how BF actually did really awesome smaller player count modes
solid hinge
Oh, that was one thing we didn’t mention either. The MP Director currently of Modern Warfare was the person who created the maps in Modern Warfare 1 and 2. He returned a few years ago to work on this year’s game.
midnight nimbus
idc about the existence of the super big modes as long as quality smaller modes exist
solid hinge
^
midnight nimbus
also a lot of BF modes and maps play way better with less people
people complain about explosive spam or whatever
not a problem in 40p operations
midnight nimbus
or 32p frontlines
solid hinge
i am totally sold
midnight nimbus
yeah the new map design looks really good
visual blade
^
solid hinge
I like the way you come into a match. With a truck or helicopter
cod ww2 literally had maps with carbon copy flow
It looks so cool
Yeah it's fine if you think that
midnight nimbus
map design has always been easier with less people too
solid hinge
the only map that wasnt 3 lane horseshit was terrible
but having every person define the game like that will just make the game shit
solid hinge
yeeeeeeeeeeeeah
visual blade
call of battlefield
visual blade
did they mention private matches?
midnight nimbus
yeah some BF maps really knock it out the park
solid hinge
@visual blade it’s coming boss
midnight nimbus
but too many just have zero flow
solid hinge
Tanks in mp maps are coming too
solid hinge
there aren't jets or helis IIRC which are driveable
meanwhile bfv still wont have al sudan
Infinity ward became great after 2 disasters (ghosts and infinite warfare)
visual blade
hopefully private matches have a high player count
midnight nimbus
disaster is relative, both games still had bigger playerbases than a lot of BF games
stiff sky
we want hack free bf5
solid hinge
They were disasters for their community
midnight nimbus
I mean BF doesn't need to be the hype massive playerbase game
but it does need to be a huge seller as a massive budget AAA game
solid hinge
it could've been
they had momentum from bf1
I just want more maps which are large and sandboxy
sandboxy stuff is the vision of BF
midnight nimbus
in an age of >$100m development costs, you need to be able to capture the wide market
solid hinge
that's where the series should be headed
the first map in a long time that was supposed to capture that
is now in a perpetual state of lumbago
midnight nimbus
Panzerstorm 😂😂😂
solid hinge
Gunsmith allows you to completely deck out your weapon. Each weapon has between 30 to 60 attachments. This is the most in-depth weapon system ever in Call of Duty.
nah fuck panzerstorm
midnight nimbus
Hamada 😂😂😂
solid hinge
30 to 60 attachments
midnight nimbus
epic massive sandbox
solid hinge
You can change a AK47 into an AK74u
midnight nimbus
meanwhile most played maps in BF history are Metro and Lockers probably
idk you can maybe make an argument for Argonne and Amiens
solid hinge
A cool feature about the Gunsmith that Infinity Ward told us: in Modern Warfare, there is no AK-74u. But, with Gunsmith, you can actually configure the AK-47 in many ways to make it into the AK-74u.
I love both maps
Argonne, ballroom and amiens are my favorites
glossy locust
crazy how much people like metro when the community both here in the forums and on reddit dislike it
the people that don't use these channels (most players) are the ones that like metro
midnight nimbus
forums make up like 1% of the playerbase
gray saffron
maybe cause a community is not a hivemind, but exists out of individual people ;D
upper vault
Does anyone have issues on PC?
solid hinge
Do people even still use forums?
solid hinge
Reddit is a toxic place to be mostly lol
light zenith
Do you know that moment, when you see a cosmetic that´s really nice but it costs real money and you don´t want to spend money on that game?
midnight nimbus
remember when BF Heroes MTX caused a forum shitshow, but the player base kept on playing at the same rates anyways
solid hinge
that happened to me when i saw Ilse
glossy locust
PC runs well on a great CPU but it's bad without one
solid hinge
to be really honest
gray saffron
all the time, bobby, all the time xd
solid hinge
BF maps are at a mix between small and large
also just because the community plays smaller maps more
midnight nimbus
majority of the playerbase loves the epic high player count shitshow
large vs small doesn't matter
upper vault
They are diverse
glossy locust
it's not that i don't like close quarters i like marita i like argonne, metro and lockers are literally just a corridor that you spam grenades down
upper vault
If DICE manages to make a very large map that is only urban,
midnight nimbus
look at the 24/7 servers
glossy locust
people like to spam grenades down a corridor or post up with a bipod
solid hinge
do you want every map to be like metro?
midnight nimbus
I mean they're your core audience that buys your game
upper vault
I have a feeling that Operation Underground is a large map
upper vault
Operation Underground might be a large map with outside sections,
midnight nimbus
well look at MW2019, that's whats gonna happen
upper vault
I’m just here waiting for Provence to be on larger game modes
solid hinge
@solid hinge just ignore him boss
glossy locust
thing is metro is not even COD it's a complete clusterfuck with zero flanking routes. ALmost any COD map is better designed
midnight nimbus
gonna eat up the normie consumers that would otherwise buy BF
gray saffron
cod maps are way smaller though
solid hinge
Provence is going to be a small map
midnight nimbus
on hype marketing alone
upper vault
MW2019 might be good rn but bad at launch, expectations shouldn’t be high.
It might pull a Fallout 76 card
midnight nimbus
most money in vidya is made on initial sales anyways
upper vault
16 times the detail, 4 times the size of Fallout 4 with distant weather changes
midnight nimbus
doesn't matter that much if your game dies after 6 months, you made your money
upper vault
And when it’s launch time, Fallout 76 flopped
glossy locust
not anymore micro transactions and battlepass is where the real money is now
single player games still rely on launch though
midnight nimbus
yeah, MTX and season pass really changed the game
BFV isn't driving enough revenue from that
glossy locust
but yeah it kinda sucks that people like metro, weirdly metro on rush is fun
and the outside area
midnight nimbus
yeah metro rush is amazing
glossy locust
but yeah you're right most played maps in every recent battlefield are close quarters no vehicles
gray saffron
I like the outside parts of metro. but bf4 version was mostly just inside with the end part 😦
upper vault
There’s a section with a building
glossy locust
and you know why because it fucking sucks being farmed by vehicles
midnight nimbus
frontlines is something BF really should've committed to
upper vault
A water tunnel section
midnight nimbus
yeah people hate being farmed
stiff sky
is loony mode gone now (rush = loony mode)
midnight nimbus
99% of people want to play big CoD
upper vault
We need more maps like Al Sundan size
stiff sky
noooooo sob sob. why whats wrong with it
gray saffron
it was limited
midnight nimbus
people want to pick up an assault rifle and blast people
glossy locust
see maps like strike at karkand, arras they can serve both groups
every map should be made like them
gray saffron
they do modes on limited rotations now 😦
midnight nimbus
why do you think BF3 was a massive success
gray saffron
only the main ones stay indefinitely. (though have a chance to reach the chopping board. rip Frontlines)
glossy locust
st quentin scar
midnight nimbus
gunplay took a massive jump towards hold LMB blasting
stiff sky
@gray saffron i knoq they took it away to make improovemnts but they bring it back improved then take it away
f*ck this keyboard
gray saffron
yeah it sucks 😦
still big chance for it to come back later. but prolly still limited
midnight nimbus
st Quentin scar wasn't even that popular
gray saffron
unless it's too well liked that they can't make it limited anymore (ala what happened to squad conquest)
upper vault
If we made CQB more then expect the line between CoD and BF to blur
midnight nimbus
Arras is probably one of the best maps in BFV but that's not a high bar
upper vault
What we need is maps the size of Al Sundan but in urban form
midnight nimbus
yeah vehicles are way more tolerable to play against in urban settings
except for siege of Shanghai
fuck that map
there are maps where I'll just refuse to play infy
glossy locust
yeah maps that offer both infantry fighting and vehicle gameplay
strike at karkand is incredible even today
midnight nimbus
being the vehicle farmer is pretty fun though ngl
glossy locust
closer quarters maps are fun but i don't like the long corrdiros
midnight nimbus
it's just super AIDS being on the receiving end
midnight nimbus
when you're in a vehicle and you see the cute little medics and recons standing helplessly in front of you 😂
might as well redeploy before the tank can chamber its next shell
short pecan
hey i solod a light tank with the tromboncino once!!!
granted he was god-awful
or drunk
probably both
solid hinge
i picked a trombone off a medic to kill an enemy tiger on squad conquest once
it takes a very long time
royal gull
Sounds like COD is coming for Battlefield's lunch with large scale combined arms gameplay
I really hope DICE can make the Pacific expansion something to envy
stiff sky
no no get ontop of the tiger with at rifle then shoot down that takes awhile but get funnier with every hit
@royal gull cod has nothing on battlefield. bf1 was better than cod at tdm nuf said
royal gull
Have you been paying attention to the CODMW reveal today?
gray saffron
cod is way diffferent in gameplay than bf imo. can't really compare.
royal gull
The biggest difference is going away
midnight nimbus
yeah unless next BF really knocks it out of the park, idk why i wouldn't play MW
royal gull
COD has always been hitscan and Battlefield had bullet physics
midnight nimbus
only thing BF really ever offered over CoD for me was player count and gunplay
royal gull
COD is getting bullet physics now
stiff sky
i dont care for cod anymore. when ghosts came out made it look amazing and was the first pile of dogsh*t from cod franchise and it never recovered. just kept coming pile after pile
midnight nimbus
CoD got bullet physics in BO4
royal gull
I heard 100v100
solid hinge
why can't I find conquest servers on al sundan?
formal valve
They don’t exist
tacit kelp
@solid hinge NICE joke 😄
stiff sky
cod = 7 skill kills and plus 30 kill streak kills. not fun your not playing or doing anything its really boring
royal gull
Yep, they can't get it to work right on Conquest still @solid hinge
I'm not sure if you heard about this @stiff sky, but you can like both series.
More pressure on DICE to improve is a good thing
If COD can do what DICE does but competently it's a good thing
solid hinge
that's ridiculous
royal gull
DICE leadership is trash and doesn't listen to their devs. That's why this series has all of these issues
If COD can force them to listen then we all win
stiff sky
@royal gull i didnt by cod since ghosts but played it yes. at freinds ect. its going for fast extreamly twitchy gameplay. seems thats what people want so they make that just like music nowdays they make what people want to hear instead of good music
gray saffron
cod will always outsell bf. cod is incredibly arcadey and focuses on feeling like a one man army when it comes to mp. kills before objectives. bf is also arcadey but also works on immersion and realism. and tries make people work together as a team to win. it's why bf will always be more niche than cod.
midnight nimbus
BF3/4 were a good balance
you can one man army if you're good enough, but teamwork was always best for hype plays
stiff sky
but if bf 5 was modern would have just been battlefield 3 with better graphics and thats it
just like bf 4 was
it would have gotten tired. would have been worse if there wasnt bf 1
there is a major differance in the actual game from bf 1 to bf 5 (not talking about the bugs ect) the tech and equipment . the vehicles it actually feels like tech evolved unlike bf 4
midnight nimbus
everything interesting and fun about BF3/4/1 have been killed off in V for me
analog mist
Getting flashbacks of Ww3 WiLl KiLl BaTtLeFiElD!".
Gonna need to see a lot of gameplay.
midnight nimbus
WW3 was just boomerfied BF4
steel agate
COD moving away from arcade shooter ?
midnight nimbus
that did nothing better than BF4
MW did a perfect job of going back to the MW1/2 roots while also expanding upon that
gray saffron
if bc3 is gonna be modern with sandy middle eastern locales, i prolly skip it xD i'm so done with those settings
gray saffron
50v50 sounds weird. make it 64v64 ;D
midnight nimbus
i'm so bored of military settings 😦
gray saffron
a bf focusing on resistance fighters would be cool :3 kinda hoped bfv would do that
midnight nimbus
i was so hopeful with BF Hardline 😦
solid hinge
How about get rid of BFV and go back to BF1
That game had so much wasted potential
(:
Dice really fucked up there chances with BF1
gray saffron
never played (except during that one time in ea access ) bf1 and have no desire to do so 😦
midnight nimbus
i love BF1 but goddamn is the movement so shitty
it somehow manages to be worse than BFV's movement
solid hinge
people talk about how much they like bf1, I think the game as a whole is shitty
midnight nimbus
BF1 gunplay was hype
solid hinge
I loved movement in BF1
midnight nimbus
bc most people are so bad at it
solid hinge
I prefer bf4 over both bfv and bf1 combined
gray saffron
i just don't like the theme. ww1 never appealed to me
flint helm
So... Opinions on the new cod modern Warfare trailer? 🤔
solid hinge
I loved the creativity that was put in the game
analog mist
Perhaps maybe stop playing a franchise called Battlefield if you're tired of military settings.
solid hinge
gunplay was so inaccurate. I know it was historical, but it wasn't fun
solid hinge
It doesn't feel like dice cares about BF5
midnight nimbus
there isn't a single gun in the entirety of BF i love more than the AL8 .35 in BF1
midnight nimbus
BF1 was the pinnacle of BF sniping
solid hinge
It's soooo easy to get kills with it
midnight nimbus
aside from maybe BFH
stiff sky
when cod moves aways from brain dead game play i will look at it
solid hinge
Because of the sound of getting kills in my opinion
That's what makes it interesting and satisfying
midnight nimbus
> implying BF is any less braindead
solid hinge
Idea: Add the bob semple
stiff sky
@solid hinge its that noise that tinnng noise that confered a kill is missing i do miss it
and the heat shots hmmmm
muted socket
solid hinge
I like the fact when someone shoots at you and there close and almost makes it as if you have to hit the shot
It feels like so much fun and pressure is being built on yourself
And once do it feels sooooooo good to kill that one person that was messing you up
BFV doesn't have that.
That's what I miss because it doesn't give me a reason to get kills and just go for OBJ
I feel like BFV killed BF
Mostly*
IN MY OPINION
gray saffron
bfv biggest flaw is its unpolishedness. gunplay and gameplay is the best in the series so far. in my opinion.
upper vault
If they don’t destroy BFV with a bugged and delayed pacific, consider BFV redemption.
broken fiber
Nah def didn’t. If anything it revitalized the shooting and movement. Battlefield is notoriously slow. Imo. It’s just a lack of polish
solid hinge
triggerd kids incoming
midnight nimbus
BFV movement is still worse than 3/4
upper vault
How am I a kid for expressing my opinion?
solid hinge
Never said you were
upper vault
I said “in my opinion”
solid hinge
(:
upper vault
K
gray saffron
they're still coming bloody! 😄
solid hinge
Lol
upper vault
If they polish it, then yeah BFV will be way better
solid hinge
True true
upper vault
It feels incomplete and unpolished. That feeling will go once the Pacific and possibly Eastern theatre gets added
upper vault
Till then we just have to wait for CoD to cause some competition,
Cause with competition we have progress
midnight nimbus
> thinking pacific will save BFV
solid hinge
I have a RX 580 ADM and 8 Gigs Of RAM and I have to keep Graphics on low
upper vault
Pressure on DICE and EA to release more content
rapid hatch
Yes
upper vault
Pacific will save BFV if they implement it right
Even though 3 maps may not be enough, it is good to redeem itself
Considering we are getting a good amt of vehicles specific to each faction
And if you look at the trailer you can see some ships which might get added to the game
gray saffron
i don't get the idea that a new map in a location you like will save the game. it still means you won't like the rest of the game, non? a new map is thrilling at first, but because mundane and part of the game afterwards. it's either you like the gameplay, regardless on what map it is, or you don't.
stiff sky
i am hoping that the japs have scopes on their passenger guns in tanks cus they very rarly didnt have a scope, and the us shoudl have m2hb on top so that can be their advantage. want to see the m2hb mounts as well tho. but thats kinda unfair to the japs i guess. tho they did capture a few of them. so maybe both can have them in mounts
broken fiber
New factions are getting new gadgets and likely kept seperate from the guns and gadgets available to current factions. They could change the gameplay up a bit that way
gray saffron
true. new factions do spice up gameplay. forgot the americans and japanese would enter with pacific xD
broken fiber
Would be nice if they actually explored more roles for each class too
upper vault
Plus, we have more guns than BF1 will
remember that BF1 guns were mostly variants
Telescopic, suppressive, low weight, factory,
stiff sky
americans only bothered going to war when they were attacked at pearl harbor
broken fiber
That makes for a tougher game to balance. I won’t be surprised if some weapons start to overlap in design and function
upper vault
We might not see weapons locked to each faction
broken fiber
Like the ppsh for Russians wont be much if any different than a Suomi
upper vault
Some people might wanna have STG 44s in Iwo Jima, idk
gray saffron
yeah those specialized roles sounded great from pre-launch. but apparently it got cut due playtesters hating it or something. they could have done a lot interesting stuff with it
broken fiber
I hope we do but I doubt it
upper vault
Man I just want a Flametrooper kit as a squad call in
stiff sky
@upper vault i hope we dont who want ot play with half the weapons available thats what i was stressing about cus everyone else is worried about cosmetics for some reson
reason
gray saffron
i only use like 20% of the medics guns available atm. it's not that different ;D
broken fiber
I do. The meta gets old and boring
analog mist
Because this is the new generation of gamer, looks before function.
upper vault
Yeah, half the weapons is gonna get boring rq.
broken fiber
Force change. Force gameplay differences. Screw comfort and preferences
rapid hatch
As squadcall
analog mist
You tried.
stiff sky
when the f*ck are we getting the german at rifle
solid hinge
We don’t need any more at rifles
rapid hatch
AT
upper vault
Wait, so far the Trench Carbine hasn’t been shown on the ToW?
rapid hatch
AT is Trash
upper vault
The new PanzerBruche
Is near the end of the ToW possibly
The other gun that has to be released is the Trench Carbie
Carbine*
rapid hatch
I dont Like AT rifles
sweet fulcrum
I really liked this month survey
stiff sky
@rapid hatch well i do
sweet fulcrum
nope
dense bone
response to survey, get rid of bugs and optimize pc performance
rapid hatch
Its a Camper weapon
sweet fulcrum
just go through the survey, there are many good questions
upper vault
It’s gonna get interesting once they release the German AA gadget
crisp stone
game sux actually considering buying the next cod
solid hinge
It has 100 players
crisp stone
i actually just said that lmao
dense bone
the worst bf is still better than cod
upper vault
I wouldn’t trust CoD
rapid hatch
CoD got 100 men Server?
dense bone
your enjoyment out of the games does not dictate if they are better or not
upper vault
Yeah CoD is going to have 100 men server.
midnight nimbus
I mean some CoDs are really well made in terms of design and balance
dense bone
i like stary night more than the mona lisa, youd be a fool to say mona lisa isnt better
upper vault
Depends uniform. It’s take on WW2 is disappointing, but at least the gameplay is good.
midnight nimbus
BF has always had questionable design and balance, just in different places
rapid hatch
@upper vault CoD WW2 Had a Bad start
And they lied
The game is nie very good
Now
stiff sky
they are fun and the panzerbeukzer or somthing should kinda be the other way around from the boys. had a vert samm cal was 8 mm the boys was 14mm while a small call was a massive cartige propelling a tiny bullet. and so 1200 m/s so i hope to see 75-80 damage no one shot unless low on health and the additional ammo as a spec cus it held a 10 round container on both sides and only see one side so maybe a spec or somthing. so it should be oneshot head shot but 2 shot anywere else but pretty much zero drop thats going to be fun and i hope they get the breech sounds right ohhhhhh its goignt to be amazing
this keyboard will be the death of me😭
upper vault
PanzerBruche is a good counter to the Boys AT.
The only thing left is AA flanking gadget,
And it’s coming
upper plank
You know what's a better counter? A decent game.
upper vault
SoonTM
upper plank
Also, as an anti material rifle, the AT sucks at its job.
solid hinge
Does anyone live in florida?
upper vault
It’s a good alternative to bolt action
short pecan
well anti-tank rifles sucked in ww2 as well
stiff sky
@upper vault cant wait for that as well. but i hope not assult class it has enough explosvies and the panzerfaust isnt difficult to kill planes with. i do hope that aa roket thing can actually disable stuff on the plane unlike aa. if a plane comes head on to that aa roket gadget it shouldnt be able to pull up after. but if it doesnt just need to do some decent damage
upper vault
That AA flank gun can be useful in Fjell
stiff sky
@short pecan not actually. machine gun or at rifle against enemy pillbox or bunker or strong hold which would you rather have
short pecan
a panzerfaust
stiff sky
also they could shoot the tank tracks with it too so mobility kill
@short pecan they carried one each
thats it.also wasnt in the options
stiff sky
@midnight nimbus i would have just not bought the game. the server admins . oh my word ï wanna stay in the air and to get killed cus i am an admin and i deserve it"so they banned all air counters
loved killing them when in tanks tho those tears tasted amazing
icy sluice
The Sound of the Neck Snapping is gruesome...
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/ckl9ke/only_in_battlefield_where_you_can_view_your/
frank lichen
BF1>BFV
stiff sky
@short pecan also a panzerfaust isnt high explosive either wouldnt do too much to a bunker it was a HEAT war head meant for tanks. it would scare them but and make a a hole probably but thats it. wouldnt be able to acuratly shot the bunker either didnt have a big range
solid hinge
Welp
stiff sky
no barking
stiff sky
oh my word why he need kids to sub as well or what
sorry not kids. kids with parents credit cards
midnight nimbus
the fact that BFV didn't launch with the Fliegerfaust is kinda awful
strong spear
"More maps"
stiff sky
makeing a map isnt easy nor is it easy to balance
solid hinge
it launched with the panzerfaust @midnight nimbus 
stiff sky
panzershrek 😋
upper vault
Oh yes
stiff sky
hows consol after new map
stiff sky
i think so. but even if i am mistaken you cant have a ww2 gfame without the panzershrek
stiff sky
thats going to be interesting
upper vault
With tank cosmetic btw
warm atlas
I really enjoy Marita on Conquest.
But my lord does is suck on Breakthrough.
I have never seen the attackers win.
mint cairn
i like it on breakthrough lol
gray glade
i won a couple of times as attackers tbh
solid hinge
There should be a mechanic where you can shoot and kill friendly medics who are absolutely oblivious
stiff sky
hmm. i want to see gun customization to another level. notches . kill count or engraving. like self customiation. if you have to pay differant levels for it then what ever
game has to make money to get better right
warm atlas
I just want my platoon emblem again.
And I want it engraved in the gun like it was in BF1
stiff sky
@warm atlas i think its better on breakthrough very good in my opinion
warm atlas
I’ve always been a conquest guy anyway so it’s probably just Bias
warm atlas
I only ever play breakthrough when I have to.
solid hinge
its irritating that the only two launchers for assault currently available are so similar
stiff sky
@solid hinge hows console . i really want to know if you also see soldires walking on vertical serfaces. and the seeing through smoke light problem is that a thing too
on console
solid hinge
I cant see anything properly on marita
icy sluice
The launchers are so similar?
solid hinge
Through vertical surfaces.. cant say ive had that one
warm atlas
PIAT has much more drop. At least from what I can tell.
icy sluice
Walking on Vertical Surfaces? Like wallrunning?
warm atlas
I always used the Panzerfaust
upper vault
Well
PIAT is more like a mortar
Once we get the Panzerschreck stuff will change
And the Fliegerfaust
stiff sky
@solid hinge yeah my soldire gets obstructed by bricks yet some people cn just run up vwertical inclines
solid hinge
Piat has splash, a far far faster reload, the mortar function and around the same damage if not higher
it can also break fortifications properly
the panzerfaust has velocity
warm atlas
Doesn’t the Panzer do more damage to vehicles though? Or do I just think that
forest crow
hey
gray saffron
hello
solid hinge
I genuinely think the damage different is negligible
forest crow
even after changing FAA and stuff like that?
gray saffron
throw up your resolution scale
solid hinge
Even if the Faust does more damage, the piat reload is so much faster that it's burst damage is huge
forest crow
ok
gray saffron
like 100% or 125% ish
solid hinge
piat can shoot 3 times in the time it takes the Faust to reload once
warm atlas
True. Maybe I should try the PIAT more
analog mist
Piat can bust walls, that automatically makes it better.
forest crow
I can't really do that without falling under 60
stiff sky
i havnt used it much really. but the at pistol granade does massive damage if your close the closer you are the more tankers cry
solid hinge
I use the panzerfaust on my dedicated anti tank, but the piat is a better option 99% of the time
warm atlas
Yeah what’s up with that? The Panzer used to break walls no problem. Now it takes like 2 shots
solid hinge
they broke AT pistol breaking walls as well
only thing that consistently does it is piat and dynamite
warm atlas
Yeah that is really annoying.
stiff sky
it can break walls eventually
stiff sky
the boys is amazing
gray glade
you require 2 shots to break a wall
warm atlas
When an anti tank rifle can destroy walls better than an anti tank rocket.
analog mist
Panzerfaust is a shaped charge, I understand why it doesn't.
stiff sky
yeah
solid hinge
by that logic it should be doing far more anti tank damage though
while the piddly HE piat round would be doing significantly less
stiff sky
true.
stiff sky
yin and yang
analog mist
@solid hinge and that is where real life interferes with video games.
solid hinge
its only useful for tanks, and the piats faster reload means the piat is better vs tanks closer up
analog mist
It would be OP against vehicles
solid hinge
so currently literally the only thing the panzerfaust has going for it is the velocity on it
analog mist
I think they could probably rebalance it with a few tweaks.
Have it do a ton of damage within 30m
And have it drop of significantly beyond that.
Panzerfausts effective IRL firing range was only 60ish meters
IIRC
solid hinge
a big current problem is the total lack of anti tank weapons for distance
regal sapphire
There were multiple types of Panzerfausts
midnight nimbus
yes! make the Panzerfaust even worse at the only ranges where it's relevant compared to the PIAT!
solid hinge
if a tank squats on a hill you cant do shit
midnight nimbus
excellent idea
analog mist
And PIAT according to wiki had a max of 320m
upper vault
They should add a backblast kill for the panzerfaust
analog mist
So honestly the two should be swapped
upper vault
Wait if the panzerfaust stays in the game
And the Panzerschreck is added
How will the Faust have advantage?
gray glade
panzerschreck will make a fart sound when you fire it
midnight nimbus
Panzerfaust = RPG
Panzerschreck = SMAW
gray glade
therefore sounding silly
gray saffron
isn't it the other way around kht? since fausts are onetime uses like smaw, while panzershreck is reloadable ala rpgs
analog mist
@midnight nimbus I'm saying rebalance the two to be closer to life. Which means more damage for the faust up close and much less range, and increase piat range/reduce drop and reduce it's damage.
midnight nimbus
PIAT is fine where it's at
irl range was long bc that's how you'd use it like a mortar
upper vault
These rocket launchers are inferior when the Katyushas come to BFV
gray saffron
can't help to think of pirates when i hear barbossa
analog mist
We're not going to see 2 new factions in a row.
analog mist
Add 2-3 chapters between and maybe.
solid hinge
Chapter 6 GOGO GINGA
analog mist
@upper vault if we're getting Americans and Japanese in Chapter 5 we're probably not going to see Russians the next chapter after.
In fact I will bet you $3.50 and will eat your pets if I'm wrong.
gray saffron
cause sloth ate them, duh
upper vault
Oh wait that makes sense
analog mist
Please don't spoil the Sloth time traveller arc.
gray saffron
we really need an extra chapter to let the americans shine. so i agree
junior topaz
i haven’t played since Chapter 3 because i moved consoles, what’s happened?
analog mist
A map and all the weapons not happening until the last portion of the chapter.
gray saffron
ah, well they added marita now and uhh
upper vault
Actually,
Chapter 6: Naval Rivalry
Chapter 7: (more pacific maps)
Chapter 8: Operation Barbossa
night glade
I did not like Mercury
solid hinge
Faust shouldnt have the section on the reload where you pull the sights up
upper vault
I like Mercury’s graphics
solid hinge
Should just be throw and pick up
junior topaz
Still hyped up for Operation Metro remake. It was so amazing and fast paced in BF3
solid hinge
Chapter 6 Ham
Chapter 7 bur
Chapter 8 ger
junior topaz
upper vault
The best thing about Underground is that there’s a water tunnel to stop MMG campers
gray saffron
that sights up anim takes so long
night glade
I can't wait for the tunnel to be filled with smokes and mmgs
upper vault
Chapter 9: Final Stand
Chapter 10: Fall of Germany
analog mist
Can't wait for 1 team to set up shop at the stairs for the entire game.
junior topaz
lol
analog mist
I don't think we'll be seeing 10 chapters.
junior topaz
has Frontlines or Rush returned?
midnight nimbus
ballroom blitz domination and frontlines 😍
junior topaz
f u c k
gray saffron
it had improvements as well
still 3 maps though
rush that is
frontlines also came back, but was mixed with tdm
you can play al sundan on tdm and squad conquest already as well
junior topaz
Literally the only trophies i need are the Hardcore War Stories and Frontlines Captures, but the frontlines one will be a pain to catch
neato
gray saffron
yeah the frontlines one would be a pain to get now. unless you can find grand ops versions
junior topaz
a n g r y
gray saffron
atleast they made it so all the frontlines were happening in the row than first tdm, then fl, then tdm again as it was at start xD
junior topaz
seems fair
gray saffron
i hope tow stuff is still counts/ranks up when you play on private servers later.
noble whale
they should add the M2 mortar
topaz dome
August Survey done 🗒 ✅ 
topaz dome
only took me about an hour
431 words for my suggestions on what would make me reccommend the game
noble whale
u took u a hour wow
solid hinge
What survey
sonic moss
I have two things to say why did the beta and alpha look so much nicer graphics wise and who remembers that in the alpha and the beta you can ads with panzerfaust
sonic moss
I liked fortress
Actual team play
Also I was playing on twisted steel and I was not having a great game and after getting lucky with a few kills one of the people I killed said that I was hacking when I am on 9/13
gray saffron
i remember the ads
sonic moss
I wish we had that back
gray saffron
darn. 7 kills for the get 10 kills while attacking an objective and then i died 😦
solid hinge
Cool I finished the survey
Tbh I‘m pretty satisfied w/ bfv rn so I‘m happy to see Dice trying to improve even more
polar totem
I kinda wish there were more gadgets
slender bramble
i liked the drivable tractor
they should put that into the other maps with tractors in it
gray saffron
im sad theres only one
torpid wing
Yo I wish there was an option on the survey that said "Do you guys think we should make temporary gamemodes permanent?"
It would be awesome
I am quite pissed that there even are temporary gamemodes
why bloody bother using time to develop them if you are not using them more than half of the time
gray saffron
lucky bastards ;D
stiff sky
@solid hinge what do you think of bubbles skin or ranbow neyon trim on guns ?
solid hinge
@solid hingetrue true
mint cairn
Can some one of you guys ban @glad rapids he joins squads and plays the fucking irritating sound of a girl moaning
@knotty whale and @stuck peak can confirm this
lunar lion
dm modmail dont just ping random online mods
spiral prism
stone remnant
Uh oh the ping is real for mods
orchid shore
this is going to be the end of battlefield 
formal valve
Yeah basically
formal valve
solid hinge
@torpid wing that wont and cant happen
torpid wing
"PlAyEr BaSe IS sMAlL" So what?
You will have a smaller playerbase with players getting infuriated at that like me
orchid shore
as if infinity ward pulled the uno reverse card on DICE
torpid wing
I mean you should ADD gamemodes
not remove them like dominion
And if you do waste time on making gamemodes
Make sure they are there to stay
orchid shore
it most likely not
the damage is already done from the very beginning
people are done with EA and/or DICE
strong parrot
but we gunna keep complaining bout it
drifting marsh
it's still releasing maps monthly i think :/
marita is here and sundan will come month later
plus they revealed metro goddammit
orchid shore
but if DICE can't fix shit and by the time MW gets released and the game haven't been fixed, it's a doomed game
prime pine
Im not excited for the new cod cause of activisions greedy monetisation.
Ea is no better
prime pine
But im personally just sick of dealing with activision
orchid shore
drifting marsh
yeah damn bugs
orchid shore
I be surprised if Infinity Ward can fix bugs much more faster and better than DICE
topaz dome
- commo rose can still get broken
torpid wing
@strong parrot Without complaining EA will fuck the next battlefied too
and we don't want that
Complaining actually makes the game better you know?
drifting marsh
but not complaining in a bullshit way
orchid shore
we did complained but we shouldn't even need to complain (unless it's a real bad game out there )
drifting marsh
like saying the game dead no more! 1!1!1!1!1
orchid shore
it doesn't matter if DICE do something
it's 50v50 (rumors could be true)
why Firestorm is only capped 64 players?
stone remnant
What are we talkin about?
drifting marsh
50 v 50 would cause lag
orchid shore
but it's done in the past with battle royales
drifting marsh
you should be glad firestorm graphics are still good
torpid wing
I just want permanent RUSH
drifting marsh
black ops 4 had to dumb down their graphics after adding 50 v 50
orchid shore
I just want more weapons and the performance to be good
stone remnant
50v50 wouldn't cause lag though... There's games where there's 500v500 like Planetside 2 lol
drifting marsh
@orchid shore they do add weapons each chapter :/
torpid wing
@stone remnant Planetside runs awfull tho
stone remnant
Ehhh but the battles are intense
strong parrot
complaining here has no effect since...you know devs dont look here 
stone remnant
And also depends how good your console runs huge multiplayer games...
I have to look for a good server instead of quick playing Maritas
Because it'll just slam me into a dead server with only 1 dude who's been stuck there for an hour
prime pine
Dice has shot themselves in the foot multiple times with bf5. It wouldn't be surprised if they ended up decapitating it for the next one - IF they're going to make a new battlefield.
orchid shore
I don't like Marita
stone remnant
Eh i think all Battlefields are fun, just some can be improved on
orchid shore
Marita is great map but with the visibility issue
prime pine
Dice has no clear fucking direction
orchid shore
DICE is better off making mod tools for BFV and give BFV control to the community
only way is how they going to do that
prime pine
I just they went out and asked us "What bugs are you guys going through" we give them clips and then they fix it.
strong parrot
lmao this fucking new map
im on a conq team that can only hold 1 flag
holy shit this is amazing
gritty wedge
strong parrot
im on the german side
grand haven
Can't say I care for it too much.
orchid shore
clearly you haven't hear of hamada
sure it's the worst map but that just because of visibility
prime pine
Devastation was the worst cause of visibility
orchid shore
I think I will only join servers that have Marita when it comes down to weather
Devastation was fine to me 
prime pine
Marita has worse collision
topaz dome
control the half of the map with the 4 points instead of the half with the three points, and win? + walking sucks
prime pine
The fucking foliage have square hit boxes
It s real fucking tiring firing at someone only for your bullets to be absorbed through the bush
orchid shore
it shows how DICE doesn't even have a QA team anymore
polar totem
So is there actually a good map in this game or do all of them suck
polar totem
Rotterdam is better than the token city map of BF1, aimens
prime pine
For fucks sake. WHY do we get a panzer 38t skin instead of actual content.
Who never knew tow would piss me off this much.
polar totem
Dice apologist walks up it's because they have ten people working on this game obs
orchid shore
the tides of war rewards actaully suck
polar totem
/s
strong parrot
so many bullet proof trees and bushes on this new map
orchid shore
you shouldn't need to UNLOCK guns via tides of war weekly challenges
prime pine
I can understand they're working on shit but they have to fucking tell us why instead of staying in the fucking dark.
polar totem
There's been two guns this season so far
orchid shore
should've just released all the guns to the armory all in one
polar totem
One of them sucks and the other I've never used
For fucks sake they have guns in the code that are basically complete, why aren't they telling us when they're coming out
orchid shore
can't wait for M1 garand to BE LOCKED behind a weekly challenge
prime pine
"They're not bugs they're features we haven't stated yet in the patch notes, by the way. Want to buy some boins for some overpriced skins you'll most likely never see again?"
orchid shore
you could say yes
prime pine
Bad timing kek.
orchid shore
They need to make Epic items to be obtainable with CC
polar totem
They won't, other wise you have no incentive to buy the micro transactions
prime pine
Like the thompson it was a weapon towards the end of ww1, except the difference is that the thompson was shipped on the exact end date of the war.
orchid shore
Then make epic items obtainable with CC but with high cost (like around 80000?)
oh wait
solid hinge
tfw it used to be like 4k cc
orchid shore
they can't
i forgot about the rank 500 
polar totem
Well if it didn't stop the Thompson from being in BF1 then the Browning could absolutely be in BFV
prime pine
Convincing dice to do something right is like asking your dog to not bite you every time its excited
Or is that just me?
strong parrot
lul only lost by 239 that match
amazingly we broke out and held 3 caps a certain points!
polar totem
I mean this game is fun, but it's drowning because of wasted potential
They need to focus less on firestorm and more on the core game
solid hinge
they're barely focusing on firestorm
prime pine
Forgot what firestorm was for a second
solid hinge
its dead because of lack of updates
strong parrot
blame fortnite for making companies think everything needs a BR
twin current
Is the new COD getting a br?
prime pine
To its credit. Firestorm was awesome. But it was just hurt by lack of access.
gray saffron
I play a lot of firestorm lately. it's a nice change from all the more hectic shooting in the base modes
solid hinge
they made a shoddy single player, they made a shoddy co-op mode, they made a shoddy BR and the multiplayer is full of bugs
strong parrot
you should uninstall it then
solid hinge
too many modes
twin current
I wish they would make Firestorm free to play. they have nothing to lose since no one is playing it anyway
solid hinge
What?
polar totem
That could save it TBH
twin current
No one's gonna pay $60 for a br
gray saffron
and require push to talk
polar totem
But then again games like battleborn went free to play and barely went above 1000 players
orchid shore
I can't hear people mic at all
twin current
tru
solid hinge
i assume they're waiting for Pacific to try to regain playerbase
orchid shore
what if that fail?
solid hinge
going f2p doesnt always solve issues
I don't want a push to talk on bf to be required
polar totem
If they wanted more obscure battles, go to the eastern front
gray saffron
most peeps don't use mic. but in f2p games it's almost always active
solid hinge
making firestorm f2p right now would get people playing it for a couple hours then quitting
Cause Im console and that seems pretty dumb
orchid shore
I mean
gray saffron
well, to be set as default. not required
polar totem
And the marketing
solid hinge
@gray saffron why? It would just confuse everyone
strong parrot
people just want to be justified with hating bfv and seeing it crash burn and fail 20x over so theyre never going to be happy 
polar totem
Whoever told consumers that if they didn't like it, they shouldn't buy it was probably fired
strong parrot
I mean...not like that statement is ground breaking or anything
polar totem
What a shocker
solid hinge
prime pine
I truly hope dice learns their lesson
Actually make a proper effort with clear direction in the next battlefield
Buuuuut thats not gonna happen it seens.
solid hinge
Well thats to be seen
I think the frostbite engine just aint cuttin it now adays
If it wasn't for the bugs then it would be a much better gane
Like content wise too because isnt most if the devs time focused on the bugs?
vestal locust
I’m hyped for the new MW, but I really want to see the Pacific Theatre come to life I. The game... oh this fall is going to be interesting
solid hinge
Yep
solid hinge
Which dagger?
icy sluice
The reward for this week
vestal locust
Nope, haven’t hopped on BFV yet. Been playing other games
icy sluice
strong parrot
I managed to get through 2 in progress marita rounds 
so now i need to spam orders and get kills with explosives
icy sluice
The Initials are an Easter Egg/Reference
solid hinge
What's the initials?
vestal locust
Wonder if he lived through WWI
icy sluice
Yeah, he was telling a story thoughout it
So far both 1 and V have main characters recapping what happened
Deme and Luca
Luca is telling his daughter what happened to Matteo
Deme is telling some documentary people what happened I think, I don't recall
stone remnant
Luca is my favorite Italian character of all time
polar totem
That war story might have been short, but it was better than any of the BFV ones
Except for maybe last tiger
icy sluice
I think I liked Tiralleur more actually
solid hinge
Anyone wanna play battlefield 4 I'm on xbox 1 DM me and we can VC and play
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icy sluice
I forgot we removed the lfg commands for each platform lol
strong parrot
we??
icy sluice
Whatever
strong parrot
smh we are lonely peons
icy sluice
We are many, you are but one
strong parrot
tell that to stalin
icy sluice
We are Ermac
solid hinge
Bacon
stone remnant
@polar totem i like the Last Tiger... It literally tells a good story