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#battlefield-legacy-titles
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uneven oxide
^
icy sluice
v
coarse thunder
15,000 volunteers
formal valve
I just want to make something clear
solid hinge
What mint said
rich ember
This makes your argument a bit less sensible.
formal valve
We are talking about Italian soldiers who were forced into the german military branches and the SS after the collapse of Fascist Italy
Just wanna make that clear
Ok
Now I’m done
Please drop it
Or I will contact a mod
solid hinge
You dont have the authority to say stop it
coarse thunder
Where on the wiki page does it say thay they were forced
solid hinge
I think the mods should intervene with your plain nazi denialism or whatever to provoke argument
Its frankly not edgy or funny
The SS was absolutely horrible
icy sluice
I don't care how this argument/conversation/debate ends up, I just want it to end tbh
formal valve
GO AWAY
rich ember
AHEM
solid hinge
I wouldnt have said what I said if he didnt bring up contacting a mod
formal valve
LEAVE
rich ember
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/6f57dd08-3932-498a-8492-d7b62ef782f4/Classic-Team-Death-Match-Votemap-32-Players-60-Hz/#live Does anyone know who runs this BF4 server?
coarse thunder
How is saying the SS was bad indicative of ANTIFA
formal valve
JUST LEAVE DUDE
rich ember
i mean
formal valve
go away
icy sluice
afaik a mod was just talking here, Ayla didn't get contacted
solid hinge
No you go away
rich ember
it's anti fascist
solid hinge
Nazi sympathizing is not COOL
uneven oxide
We all need to chill
solid hinge
I’ll do the same then
uneven oxide
Everyone just chill
rich ember
@solid hinge
uneven oxide
Just chill
icy sluice
I'm just sitting here...
coarse thunder
ANTIFA is different from antifacists because they employ fascist means
formal valve
Just leave me alone
icy sluice
Just tending to my claws rn
uneven oxide
Hey @icy sluice wanna play battlefield
formal valve
I’m tryin to discuss the game
uneven oxide
Not a problem
formal valve
Anyone notice the invisible wall on Marita?
rich ember
@coarse thunder i'm gonna mention this now, and this is the only time i'll say this. Antifa is not an organization. It's an ideological stance. It's not like the fucking KKK or the cops.
uneven oxide
JUST IGNORE MY COMMENT
coarse thunder
Ok we'll take it to DMs if necessary
formal valve
Thank you
uneven oxide
just drop it
formal valve
So there’s this little invisible wall on Marita
icy sluice
Oh shit, there's a Discord update
formal valve
So basically, it’s on that small rock face left of the Bridge at C facing toward the village
Bullets don’t penetrate, grenades bounce off
cerulean finch
This game needs a serious anticheat
solid hinge
That discussion was fun to watch
uneven oxide
I wish Marita was a little bigger
formal valve
Me too @uneven oxide
uneven oxide
I’m just trying to cook
formal valve
Once again, I’m sorry for starting this stuff guys
solid hinge
Visibiliry in marita is painful
formal valve
Yeah it’s iffy
uneven oxide
I haven’t had the fog yet in Marita
icy sluice
Now imagine Wake Island with the Green American uniforms
icy sluice
Ardennes Forest with White Winter German outfits
formal valve
Yikes
Theres one outfit from cod WW2 I want for the Germans in this game
It’s the snow variant of the Axis Sniper
Form the Mountain division
The one with the helmet with grass and (not bringing up SS again) Silly Squad smock
coarse thunder
DM me a photo because I only played the campaign and zombies of that game
formal valve
One sec
icy sluice
I don't remember any of the outfits from that game... aside from a British Navy uniform
solid hinge
You can bring up ss chief
As long as you dont parade around saying ss isnt nazi like
Simple stuff
icy sluice
solid hinge
Schlinder was in the nazi party and he saved jews, @solid hinge
coarse thunder
Oh shet here we go again
solid hinge
Oh no
coarse thunder
Imma DM
formal valve
Just leave me outta this please
opaque cipher
Very interesting conversion
solid hinge
Obvious joke that last one
formal valve
Finally a mod
icy sluice
Did you know that World War II happened?
solid hinge
Ww1 soldier: say sike right now
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uneven oxide
I leave for like 10 minutes
coarse thunder
That one fat guy from the Fantastic Beasts series was a doughboy
icy sluice
Pillsbury Doughboy?
rich ember
Is there any way to figure out who runs a BF4 server if there's no clan or moderation present at any given time?
rich ember
Server info gives nothing.
formal valve
Oh
uneven oxide
I don’t know, I only had Bf4 for a short time
coarse thunder
I think he saw combat due to his reaction to Wizard [H]itler's (Grindelwald) magical vape cloud
uneven oxide
WW2 but instead of soldiers smoking they all vape
formal valve
uneven oxide
“Bro before we board the destroyer can I just have one hit?”
coarse thunder
Hotbox the battleship
uneven oxide
“Soldier returning home from Dunkirk asks for a blanket and Juul pods”
coarse thunder
The Bismarck was actually killed by an ammunition fire caused by German sailors getting high on weedsmoke
uneven oxide
The true reason why Shermans light up like a tin can
formal valve
The bridge on Twisted Steel got clogged up with destroyed vehicles and my friend goes “elements of the SS 9th and 10th Panzer divisions attempt to cross the Arnhem Bridge, September 18th, 1944”
Lmao
If you’ve seen a bridge too far you’ll know what scene I’m talking about
uneven oxide
Hiroshima was just someone’s vape pen exploding
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coarse thunder
That would make more sense for that intro scene at Nijmegen
formal valve
Right as he said that, we spotted anothe halftrack and some infantry coming in, so I yell “bring up the PIAT!” And then we wait for them and someone fires and I yell “Hold ya fire”
solid hinge
And the garand
formal valve
It was literally ripped from A Bridge Too Far
coarse thunder
Did he miss the piat shot
coarse thunder
Did it land right in front of the tank
formal valve
Yep
uneven oxide
Before engaging in serious discussion we all should read rule number 4 next time
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FAC
solid hinge
Some fellers more than others
coarse thunder
Rule 4 is stretchy
uneven oxide
Respect others
uneven oxide
Calling names and pointing fingers is not respect
formal valve
^
solid hinge
Or maybe next time dont make claims that ss isnt nazi and call people snowflakes,idiots,kids etc
uneven oxide
Respect
formal valve
Never said that even remotely
uneven oxide
Others
formal valve
Lmao
solid hinge
You said all those things chief
uneven oxide
Opinions
formal valve
@uneven oxide preach
solid hinge
At least twice
formal valve
Nah tho
rich ember
you did call him an idiot robert
solid hinge
I only called you muppet twice after you kept calling me names
rich ember
like, if you're gonna do something at least admit to it after the fact, it doesn't make you look good if you don't.
formal valve
?
rich ember
you can read, can't you?
coarse thunder
Own up to your mistakes
rich ember
I don't think what i said was that hard to understand.
solid hinge
Like I think ive admitted this, I may have overreacted but I just cant stand nazi apologists etc
Shit is just disgusting
formal valve
To be fair, what would you do if someone is unfairly calling you a Nazi Sympathizer
You’d probably be angry as well
solid hinge
Then maybe dont make claims the motherfucking SS isnt nazi
formal valve
Yes
rich ember
and i don't see you admitting to either of those things
formal valve
Will admit to that as well
solid hinge
Its pretty easy
formal valve
I did call him those things
rich ember
except you claimed to not do that immediately after he mentioned it
solid hinge
Hes done that on every note
rich ember
and you're only admitting to it now because of pressure
solid hinge
The whole thing began with him citing wikipedia and telling me im an idiot for needing it when I linked SS
rich ember
i'd post the screencap but i can't post pictures
formal valve
I’m not feeling any pressure
solid hinge
Dudes just full of contradictions
rich ember
formal valve
Leave. Me. Alone.
uneven oxide
Rule 4
rich ember
ok mr. "never said that even remotely"
solid hinge
Here it goes again
formal valve
I meant I never said the SS weren’t Nazis
solid hinge
The second you call him out he says leave him alone etc
formal valve
Not that I never called him names
solid hinge
You did chief
solid hinge
You just arent making sense
formal valve
You can have an opinion
icy sluice
You two boys bring this two DMs, for the sake of everything, please.
solid hinge
Youre saying youre not saying SS isnt nazi but then you say this SS battalion isnt nazi
Cant dm he blocked
formal valve
I don’t want this dude near my DMs
coarse thunder
Hold up, robert made fun of wehraboos. A wehraboo can't make fun of wehraboos
formal valve
You can
solid hinge
He just says contradictions one after another
formal valve
I’m not having a convo when you ignore my points
And keep calling me a Nazi on a baseless assumption
hazy wasp
man its fucking pointless tail gunning in the bomber lol
solid hinge
Your point is that the battalion isnt nazi because theyre italian
formal valve
Yeah they aren’t very useful lmao @hazy wasp
icy sluice
Tail Gunner does decent damage against Aircrafft
formal valve
Hard to hit anything with them
coarse thunder
Tail gunning is hard at my turret sensitivity
solid hinge
We even brought up there was 15K volunteers which you said wasnt true and they were forced
But have no proof
formal valve
“Volunteers”
rich ember
i was the one that said that.
coarse thunder
Um
solid hinge
Nazis own wikipedia?
rich ember
because i was told that was the case with many of the terrorities Nazi Germany occupied during that time
formal valve
I mean th sources that Wikipedia pulls from
solid hinge
Cite those sources then directly
formal valve
..
formal valve
@solid hinge please mute this guy
solid hinge
Its awesome
formal valve
Or me
coarse thunder
Don't see the point in nazis lying about method of recruiting when 2.4m million joined the Wehrmacht before the war
solid hinge
Mute me for what exactly, calling you out?
formal valve
Just put me out of my misery
solid hinge
Youre the one being demeaning and calling names
it's a good thing ive come back to not the argument that I specifically said should not be continued before I left
formal valve
I’m tired of this guy
rich ember
@coarse thunder i'll be honest, i don't know.
solid hinge
No you didnt
icy sluice
And I've tried switching topics
solid hinge
Youre literally replying to every message im sending
formal valve
And I’ve tried discussing them with you @icy sluice
formal valve
I’ll just leave the server if it comes down to it
icy sluice
If I see this discussion continuing, I am getting modmail.
solid hinge
I wont steep low and block, but I’ll move on. As long as he doesnt bring up that bs again
formal valve
If I’m causing to much trouble
prime sail
there's some MFing 
rn
formal valve
I’ll gladly leave so that others don’t have to put up with this shit
icy sluice
tf?
formal valve
prime sail
solid hinge
We agreed on moving on but you had to get the last word in
icy sluice
He literally just said... okay then
icy sluice
Nice
prime sail
for this chat rn
solid hinge
Where are the tractors on marita
coarse thunder
They don't call 'em ole horsepower for nothing
prime sail
yeah near the German spawn
solid hinge
I see
coarse thunder
Only one seat though right?
prime sail
no tanks to use it on
uneven oxide
Tractor is beautiful by itself
coarse thunder
The tractor would just flip over
solid hinge
Wonder when theyll start adding the rest of the vehicles from firestorm to normal mp
uneven oxide
I wish you could control the larger canvas veichels
solid hinge
Bet nobody would care at this point if we had the heli in mp
formal valve
I know
prime pine
A helicopter in mp would be a tank magnet
formal valve
I said Glorifed Tractor
prime sail
hey mods let's get a tractor emote
formal valve
It’s literally a tractor with metal roofing in a box around it
uneven oxide
🚜
prime pine
You're going to have to find an optimal route to take on tanks. And thats excluding the flak you get from planes.
solid hinge
Can you tow shit with the tractor?
prime pine
Yeah
coarse thunder
It would get wiped both by ground and air targets
solid hinge
Oh shit really?
solid hinge
Thatd be nice on other maps then, would be a good adjuster for flaks and AT guns
coarse thunder
If it has the little circular hitch on the back it can tow
I think bascially every vehicle can tow
solid hinge
Dont think the 88 is a towable in the game is it?
coarse thunder
Even the kettenkrad can tow
solid hinge
Pak 40 is like 75mm innit
coarse thunder
There are no usable 88mm in the game except the tiger main cannon
coarse thunder
I'm fine with using the pak 40, the most underated tank killer of the war
solid hinge
Yeah wish those had a bigger emphasis on maps
uneven oxide
Minutemen missiles in Bf4 please
steel agate
I prefer the 380mm gun
stone remnant
I love using German tanks
solid hinge
Panzerstorm is probably the only one good with them
steel agate
Forget the 88mm, that's weak sauce
formal valve
erika fades in
solid hinge
What we need in bf5 is the maus
coarse thunder
All you need is really the pak 40
steel agate
What we need is the P.1000 Ratte
formal valve
Oh baby
coarse thunder
88 is overkill, especially when they implemented it in 1941-42
solid hinge
Could you imagine how fucking big it would be in bf5 maps
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prime sail
we need new vehicles period
formal valve
The Ratte is like the size of the Block map from BfH
steel agate
You could literally roadkill tanks with the Ratte
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prime sail
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coarse thunder
Bomb magnet
formal valve
Imagine running over a tank
coarse thunder
Mechanical breakdown magnet
uneven oxide
We need grabbable bombs
formal valve
BFV Tiger is inaccurate
steel agate
Even if it breaks down, it'll be like a small fortress you have to take out
formal valve
My transmission should be breaking down every 5 minutes
uneven oxide
We need to be able to tow a cart of 1000 pounders with our tractors
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coarse thunder
Prettu sure most of the tanks are innacurate
solid hinge
Tbf they did an aight job on the vehicles
formal valve
Nope
solid hinge
Well yeah but besides that
uneven oxide
Wasn’t the Archer an M8 variant?
solid hinge
The designs are fairly accurate
formal valve
Just a Valentine chassis with a Crusader AA turret
solid hinge
And the skins too
uneven oxide
Skins are pretty bad
formal valve
The Archer was the british first attempt to put a 17PDR on a tank
stone remnant
They should have behemoth type vehicles in BFV and P.1000 Ratte as one
solid hinge
Did you see the skins they pulled back
coarse thunder
No I think the vehicle skins are alright
formal valve
Wasn’t very good
solid hinge
Some really good ones in there
uneven oxide
Skins are visually appealing but not realistic at all
formal valve
I managed to but one of them
coarse thunder
Which ones
formal valve
Yeah they are @uneven oxide
solid hinge
The vehicles skins?
solid hinge
The tiger has a real life SS tiger skin in the game
coarse thunder
The gun skins yeah but vehicle skins are a pretty alright
uneven oxide
Oh I meant the characters
uneven oxide
The tank skins are legit
formal valve
Yeah your right on that
solid hinge
Cant remember the number on the skin
coarse thunder
No arguments there
solid hinge
Found it
formal valve
Or another one
solid hinge
232
formal valve
DM me it
Ah 232 ok
OH
Isn’t that Micheal Wittmans number?
Damn
That’s probably a boins skin
Oh no wait
It’s blue tier
So probably Cc
solid hinge
Who knows what it’ll be when they come back
coarse thunder
They haven't even ironed out vehicle customization so it is a far cry before they do vehicle boins
solid hinge
I got a video on all of the tank skins if anyone wants to see
rich ember
ehicle 🅱oins
coarse thunder
DM me @solid hinge
formal valve
It was I think Lehrgang
coarse thunder
I have the free tank skins from tow and the last tiger
stone remnant
Oi i wanna see the skin y'all are talking about
formal valve
Which one
prime pine
Marita i would say is an ok map
What we need is four maps released at once with a specific theme.
solid hinge
Wüstenfleck my bad
stone remnant
Hold up i had to clear a house. Also i wanted to see the last tiger reward skin
coarse thunder
So it's safe to say we'll get a panzer commander elite eventually
formal valve
Or skin
solid hinge
Maybe
coarse thunder
Captain Hadlow is ab elite skin on the German tanks that is unreleased
steel agate
I wonder if we're getting the Pak 44
solid hinge
They really need to rework the colours
stone remnant
I wonder if we're getting the Sterling anytime soon
steel agate
128mm gun vs tank 😄
formal valve
prime pine
Annoying as fuck how they hold back on weapons advertised... Wheres the sjorgen or the madsen.
coarse thunder
What
prime pine
The thingies
solid hinge
Hes referring to the trailers etc where those guns are used
And seem to be existing assets in the bf5 game engine
prime pine
Yeah
steel agate
Don't worry, here are some of the guns that are coming
prime pine
The madsen was in the trailer and i presume its going to be a very late reward...
coarse thunder
never
steel agate
Sterling SMG, Welgun, Breda, Walther PPK silenced, 2x shotguns, Browning MG
solid hinge
Wouldnt mind a walther
formal valve
Walther is sadly not in the files anymore
coarse thunder
I don't want to get more side-loading SMGs until Japan drops and we get the Type 100
solid hinge
Imagine the day when we can customize the tankers
stone remnant
That would be epic
solid hinge
And now imagine the disappointment when it never happens
formal valve
In the Chapter 4 update, my friend said that all the machine pistols and the Walther PPK were wiped from the databrower
steel agate
Tanker and pilot customization should have been there since Day 1
Not sure what the hold up is
solid hinge
God knows
stone remnant
Imagine one of the first maps for the Russians being Stalingrad... That would be kinda epic
steel agate
I have a whole list I'm compiling for features that will objectively improve the game
solid hinge
Could really use that gif of the paper coming out from the printer going into the shredder right now
Where’s the flammenwerfer?!!!
Because thats what dice gon do with ur list
WHERE THE PISTOL WITH THE SILENCER
In bf1, again
WHERES THE NEW GRAND OPS
WHERES OUTPOST
formal valve
where’s my sanity
coarse thunder
Though it would be nice, tanker and pilot cosmetics have to be quite low on the list of priorities for bf5
stone remnant
Grand ops should've been as epic as BF1
steel agate
The list I'm compiling has features that are objectively for BFV's betterment, and if DICE disagrees they're wrong, because I'm right 😃
stone remnant
Like the history and stuff i was kinda excited to learn a bit if it
Then again I'm a history nerd on anything militaristic :p
coarse thunder
Like your amazing 32 Shermans vs Ratte idea
steel agate
No...
coarse thunder
That one was a whopper
formal valve
what’s fun -dice
steel agate
It's a bunch of really simple things, that add up to make the game much much better and less annoying
stone remnant
True
steel agate
Such as... adding an option to HOLD to slide instead of double tap, moving Redeploy to the bottom of the menu screen instead of right next to Squad, giving the option to bind console to the right hand side of the keyboard, tanker/pilot customization while in a match.... all objectively better to at least have as an option
That's only a handful of what's on my list
stone remnant
I think they should've stuck with their original customizasion and sub class idea
coarse thunder
I think that is solely the fault of the community
stone remnant
Despite all the hate for stuff like fake arms and such the original goal looked more fun like a steam punkish WW2 feel instead of the same o same o allies v germans or americans v japanese in it's basic form
Though i do understand they wanted to keep everything accurate
solid hinge
Hey uh
coarse thunder
The dirlewanger mask was eliminated because people thought it was a hockey mask. I'm surprised they even put something like that in a modern AAA game, Swedish company too.
stone remnant
That kinda sucks the Dirlewanger mask was eliminated
solid hinge
The medics are out in full force tonight
stone remnant
I kinda wanted to feel like a soldier ww2 variant of Jason
topaz dome
I went 22-2 or some such when I was in a solo squad, so medics helped 
stone remnant
Ayy I'm playing as a medic to complete this weeks challenge for the helmet
solid hinge
nice
solid hinge
I really feel like SARS need to have glare on their 3x scopes because they’re even more deadly than snipers at medium ranges
The SLR’s take 2-3 shots with low fire rates
SARs take 3-5 shots with faster fire rates
coarse thunder
Especially when recon glints and they don't
stone remnant
I'm usually a medic even without the challenge tbh Mint
Mainly because I'm a SMG type of player
midnight nimbus
correct take: SLRs just shouldn't have glint
coarse thunder
Except pilot because my head hurts then
solid hinge
im recon 90% of the time cause spawn beacon
icy sluice
Everything gets glint even with iron sights
problem solved
Liberator?
Give that gun a glint
solid hinge
give me pre-nerf glint
icy sluice
Make it so that if I aim down sights, no one in front of me can see shit because of the blinding power of the GLINT
solid hinge
how I long for the floodlights to return
formal valve
Bolt actions are really bad
solid hinge
EXACTLY
formal valve
Like Jesus
solid hinge
There was a pretty good guy with a Lee in this match and he just couldnt kill me because the gun is so weak
If he'd had any other semi auto he'd have killed me 5 times over
stone remnant
When I'm recon i use lee, though i provide overwatch while my squad are storming the objective
short pecan
love me cheesy boys at though
coarse thunder
I just got the kar98k, is it better to have a faster fire rate or more velocity
I.e. machined bolt or low drag rounds
short pecan
go low drag
solid hinge
imo low drag doesnt even help until ranges that you dont wanna be using the gun at anyway
short pecan
at the distances where bolt actions are relevant you wont get a 2nd shot in anyways
solid hinge
but the kar is the best one to have low drag on
prime pine
Honestly. I forgot how awful the meta was. And by meta i mean "Lay down on the ground like a little bitch with the cheapest weapon you can grab"
solid hinge
there's been a horrific amount of that this session but theres been SO many medics that it doesnt stop
prime pine
You barely notice it in other games cause it wasnt as much of an issue.
short pecan
prone mmgs just abuse the normal pug behavior of running around like headless chicken and never checking corners
stone remnant
I'm in one Currently surprisingly
solid hinge
some dude got like a 9 multi kill from a bush and the wave of medics rezzed everyone
forget picking any other classes
31 medics and 1 recon for flares is the way to go
formal valve
That one recon: “I......am Overwatch”
stone remnant
Lol
formal valve
stone remnant
I see how it is
coarse thunder
Ngl it's better than more than 10% recons
stone remnant
steel agate
Only one, actually good sniper is needed.
coarse thunder
I'd rather have a 32 medic team then at least 3 recons on one team
steel agate
But that's not going to happen
solid hinge
give the recon the boys so they can destroy all the fortifications getting in the way of the medic swarm
steel agate
So.... #SniperCap
formal valve
No
short pecan
snipers with bolt-actions arent needed at all honestly
formal valve
That restricts player choice
steel agate
Too bad lol
solid hinge
There's no choice in this zerg
formal valve
I meant snipers
steel agate
A team full of snipers is useless
solid hinge
You just cant stop that many bullets
stone remnant
B-but i like my Lee beanstalk
steel agate
They're not effective en masse in real life, otherwise we'd have an army full of snipers
steel agate
We need assault or front lines soldiers more, because it's the most effective most of the time
short pecan
i mean, just play whatever you want it's just a game afterall
but if we get into min-maxing there isnt really a place for them unfortunately
steel agate
A team full of snipers negatively affects the entire team
It's like in Dota 2, a douchebag or dumb fifth player doing his/her own thing, dooms the team to lose
That's 20% of the team
Now imagine if say, half the team is sniping
To be fair, I'm talking about non-Conquest
stone remnant
I mean i think i play medic well since i kinda use it like an assault class lol I'm constantly in the front lines
cinder radish
If they are getting kills. I mean whats it matter
steel agate
I tell players, if you want to do what you want or you're new, go practice or snipe in Conquest mode
If we're winning, then it doesn't matter
cinder radish
If they are getting enough kills to make it worth it. Then there should be less enemies on point.
short pecan
@cinder radish thing is at their ranges they cant deny the revives
steel agate
I'm talking if we're losing and no one's getting caps
short pecan
a medic is just gonna smoke and res
coarse thunder
A blueberry revive is 100 points, same as 100 points of damage
solid hinge
short pecan
dunno about that ayla
cinder radish
Maybe losing and they sick of dying so they wanna play the long game. I do the same when the team is getting rolled. Like running at a steam train. I’d rather sit back and just do nothing for the hopeless team
short pecan
eh, i just leave those matches lol
coarse thunder
Headshot hitbox larger than its ever been+unrevivable headshots=disaster
solid hinge
If it can be added and they're still the worst weapon class then I don't see the harm
cinder radish
Yeah. You dont help the matter all the same
steel agate
In a losing game, I like to use it as practice, that is the mindset I have. It's like an indirect hardcore mode. That's how I think of it.
cinder radish
The winners tend to stay. The losers quit. And it goes from unbalanced skill to unbalanced numbers aswell even worse
steel agate
Balance is terribad, and so is the hacker problem; I hope that DICE addresses it after this next bug patch
cinder radish
Recon has flares. Very good in this game
Yes. Balance. Hackers and unable to swap teams...
steel agate
i don't mind the swapping part, it's the balance and hackers that are rage inducing
cinder radish
Hard to find a nice even match. Cause it cascades from people quittinn
stone remnant
Ah, i never had to deal with hackers while playing Xbox
steel agate
Yeah there's a negative feedback loop with hackers
cinder radish
Have they got 64player on console? I actually have no idea
steel agate
Cross platform gaming would be sick, PC players would dominate lol
coarse thunder
Yes
I'd rather that the minority of consolers who use kbm and xim be placed on PC
cinder radish
PC should never be put with Console players for FPS games
steel agate
PC players should see their kill count rise relative to the death count (KDR goes up) with inter-platform gaming.
PC players need a way to vent from all the hackers we get
coarse thunder
Unfettered cross platform bf5 would be unplayable for the general console population
steel agate
Yes
cinder radish
I’d be melting players left n right if console came. Be like playing with bots
coarse thunder
Which is why we give kbm and xim users a taste of their own medicine and put them on PC servers
stone remnant
I think i could manage if that were to happen (I'm not saying I'm good or anything, just i could hopefully adapt to it)
chilly ruin
Anyone want to teach a newb to play Firestorm?
steel agate
What about XBOX-PS cross CONSOLE gaming?
opaque cipher
Console gamers will all switch to vehicle and camping
cinder radish
That would be fine and fair there is near no difference.
chilly ruin
Sorry, wrong chat
solid hinge
@steel agate sony doesnt want xbox players playing with ps4 players
stone remnant
I've never liked Battle royales. Bestshot sorry
polar totem
I feel that the attrition mechanics in BFV aren't impactful enough
solid hinge
Battle royales give me schrizophenia
stone remnant
I'd probably throw a parade once they die out
coarse thunder
Cross console would be good
polar totem
They should have gone all in on it by also limiting the how many bandages a medic can carry
Or how much ammo a support can carry
coarse thunder
They should have stuck with their earlier statements
solid hinge
@polar totem leave that feature on hardcore mode...
polar totem
Fair enough
solid hinge
Arcade pussies will hate it
stone remnant
Eh, I'm sure if lots of people request it it'll be bound to come
solid hinge
Honestly, you should only be spawn with national guns on hardcore mode
tfw hardcore would make bolts one hit kills
coarse thunder
Bolt actions only lol. Squad leaders only get SMGs while one squad member gets either an LMG or MMG
polar totem
Also where the hell are the service stars?
Why aren't they here
Expand squads to six
Three riflemen
One mmg
prime pine
If i were to make a hardcore server i would ban mmg's
polar totem
And a few smgs
coarse thunder
Should be 2 riflemen, 1 MG man, and squad leader with SMG if we stuck with 4 man
With iron sights of course
1-2 snipers per team of 32
stone remnant
Realistic platoon mode, majority of allies use semi auto rifles and few use the rest, germans basically the same except a few more get to use the MP40s
solid hinge
MMG master race
icy sluice
Looks like Asia PC servers are getting cleaned or something
stone remnant
Rip
rich ember
what does that mean
coarse thunder
Gets reversed from the 1943-45 dlc
icy sluice
That's a dev
rich ember
see that looks really bad out of context
icy sluice
Yeah, it looks like he's going server to server, patrolling to clean up hackers
solid hinge
Oh lol
coarse thunder
"Y'all dealing around these parts?"
solid hinge
He is a good man
rich ember
how do you know he's a dev, anyway
icy sluice
Twitter
rich ember
[SUCCESSFUL] fair enough have a nice day
solid hinge
Persuation attempt succesful
coarse thunder
Hackers: phew back to work
solid hinge
They should make a hackerhell pool
polar totem
The moment the anti cheat starts to take effect, cheaters will try to find ways to circumvent it
steel agate
For EA staff to kick the very obvious hackers by joining a match and going to the next match
They listened to me!
prime pine
What class does Ilse specialise in? Does she not have one?
polar totem
I don't think the elites specialize in any class
icy sluice
Norman nor Ilse seem to specialize in either class
prime pine
Bugger.
steel agate
Well, technically it's in her description, but you can wear her skin for all classes
visual blade
Norman’s meele weapon is nice af
prime pine
Norman seems good enough for a support gunner.
coarse thunder
Do what they did in GTA Online and put all the modders/hackers in one server lol
solid hinge
Use ilse to scare british soldiers
prime pine
Yeah i know i use hana for support.
solid hinge
@coarse thunder this
polar totem
Dunno all I got from the trailer was that poor guy who got chased by an axe wielding nazi
icy sluice
Hannah seems to specialize around Recon
prime pine
Yeah, Ernst and Hanas are snipers
solid hinge
@polar totem dont start a discussion
prime pine
Seamus and wilhelm are assaults
steel agate
Anyone caught cheating but not hacking should be given the GTA V equivalent of the DUNCE hat 😛
short pecan
do you think we'll ever get an italian elite for the axis?
solid hinge
Ernst doesnt look like sniper, he looks like an officer squad leader
stone remnant
Dude i love ilse's character personality
polar totem
Ilse looks like a recon
prime pine
If anything he seems like the guy for the medic class
solid hinge
Ilse looks like the person thats is going to hunt me for no reason in a horror movie
steel agate
The 2 new elites' intro videos were actually good this time around. The German elite from before shooting in Devastation, that was so cringe
rich ember
for some reason that reminds me of that news story where some guy crashed a replica of a german WW2 plane in a highway in california
polar totem
I have several questions
solid hinge
There was some dude who landed a plane near a bar cus he lost a bet lmaooooooo,
prime pine
Wilhelm had a really strong intro i believe.
stone remnant
ilse looks sorta like a Trench raider from BF1
solid hinge
And he did it again because one guy didnt believe him
rich ember
@polar totem guy was a war reenactor and you can probably google the article if you care
stone remnant
Jeez
polar totem
Wait both of the axis elites before this update were on devastation
short pecan
oh yeah true
polar totem
Ernst is trash though
solid hinge
Ernst is just a paid version of the canis horribilis
coarse thunder
Lol
stone remnant
Hannah is the only French allied troop in the whole game... It's kinda dope
coarse thunder
I wouldn't pay for elites anyway but I like watching the intro videos
formal valve
Seamus: Royal Irish Guardsman (tanker)
Ernst: Luftwaffe (pilot)
Wilhelm: no clue lmao (assault)
Hanna: French resistance(Recon)
Norman Kingsley: Long Range Desert Group (don’t know which class)
Ilse:?????
Ernst and Norman best elites
polar totem
Bruh Seamus can somehow shoot an M1 carbine one handed wtf
formal valve
😫
coarse thunder
Wilhelm is part of the kriegsmarine, no?
formal valve
No clue
icy sluice
I like that Ilse is considered anti-social
formal valve
Doesn’t look like it lmao
coarse thunder
So probably some part of the marine assault squad
formal valve
Only his melee
No
Look like some kinda of officer
Himself
Doesn’t look like Kriegsmarine at all
solid hinge
Ilse is the female version of me, the differnce is that she is -10099x better than me
polar totem
And has a pickaxe
icy sluice
I already got both of their melee weapons
solid hinge
Just incase you find diamonds
icy sluice
It's weird that they're trying to give Ilse some kind of backstory
coarse thunder
Hold up I'm looking for Wilhelms bio
polar totem
That's an iron pickaxe at least
icy sluice
But the backstory is "Figure it out yourself, fucker"
solid hinge
@icy sluicereally?
steel agate
Kingsley's knife looks nice, the pommel is like a golden lion
icy sluice
"She decorated this pickaxe with something, no one knows why"
"This pickaxe is more worn than others"
"She's anti-social"
solid hinge
Ilse is a time traveller from chernobyl
polar totem
Wilhelm is a Kriegsschule military school graduate
solid hinge
Krieh is war
polar totem
So a war school military school graduate then
steel agate
I mean, the US has the Citadel, West Point...
formal valve
Lmao
solid hinge
You made the fuhrer throw up
formal valve
Ernst tho 😫
coarse thunder
Ok I was wrong. Pretty sure Wilhelm is just Heer then
formal valve
Hot
solid hinge
wowowow
polar totem
They both specialize in long range weaponry
coarse thunder
Nah I could see why a person with good long range skills is a pilot
polar totem
Taken directly from ernst's bio "A skilled marksman trained in infiltration, evasion, and camouflage"
formal valve
Yes I know
coarse thunder
They have very good eyesight, can calculate certain factors in bullet drop, and can track targets
Something your average Battlefield player is not good at
formal valve
But his outfit tells me otherwise
Just like Seamus
He’s most likely a tank commander
Of the Royal Irish Guards
polar totem
I got a Scottish vibe from Seamus, but he's northern Irish
polar totem
The explosion reminded me of the demoman from team fortress 2
solid hinge
Maybe ersnt is good in camo cus he crashed his plane and needed to do something like the 3rd level of the pilot campaign in bf1
coarse thunder
Wilhelm is apparently public enemy number 1 of the wehrmacht according to that trailer
coarse thunder
Wilhelm is black?
formal valve
polar totem
He looks like it to me anyway
coarse thunder
I thought he was just old and dirty
polar totem
Maybe just lighting
formal valve
He’s white
polar totem
Ok so just the cyclops then
polar totem
Now that you say that, I totally see it
coarse thunder
I was surprised that more people didn't make the connection
Like look at the dudes mask and the fact that he surprises everyone in a cavernous building with an organ
night summit
how do you get the character customization?
uneven oxide
Go to the section of the menu that says Company
stone remnant
^
uneven oxide
That’s the customization
stone remnant
Yuh, you can do that in the appearance section
icy sluice
Character is the first thing there in Change Appearance
night summit
how
icy sluice
Click on CHARACTER
night summit
i legit don't have that
it doesn't have the 3 things under the laodout
it's only the appearance
icy sluice
night summit
i don't have that ...
prime pine
Chwistian owo
icy sluice
This isn't my screenshot owo
prime pine
Thats a good skin
stone remnant
Christian is my medic
prime pine
Fuck you owo
sonic rampart
For all my soldiers 
prime pine
Hahaha
icy sluice
When?
prime pine
Uh
icy sluice
When and where!?
prime pine
Stop asking questions!!!
icy sluice
Flew too low
prime pine
Yeah i should have headed up and then dropped it
stone remnant
You must've been carrying a "Big load"
prime pine
I wasbusy pounding tbe flak with the 6 pounders
stone remnant
Nice
prime pine
HOLY SHIT
I got a 6 man feed with the 1.8 Tonne bomb. My main focus was the panzer iv not the people around it!
steep thunder
congratulations, you've just halted a full german rush for the entire game
compact oxide
stone remnant
There was once me and 2 peeps in my squad massacred half the british in Breakthrough by ourselves... We died because we were low on ammunition and the peeps we killed kept respawning and storming us
And i thought Germans had Stormtroopers
steep thunder
huh, that reminds me of one of my sickest moves in BF1
so, i was in argonne forest, running past B towards C, i saw B was being taken from us so i threw a mini grenade in on the run, not even expecting it to fly through the door
stone remnant
I've had too many squadwipes in BF1... Gas grenades were my friends in that
steep thunder
next thing i know, i hear this massive explosion in the bunker, followed by the kill log being lit up with my mini grenade. Turns out, everyone was around one specific wall, and my mini grenade detonated the artillery shells along that wall
and thats how i got a 5-man with a single mini grenade
steep thunder
yeah, i loved unlocking all of the codex entries in it
stone remnant
Even looking at each weapon was awesome because the definitions they all had
bronze grotto
join game
5vs28 because all my team ragequit from another hacker
stone remnant
I ended up loving WW1 and above history because of BF1
bronze grotto
why is this game such a wreck of a cheater magnet
stone remnant
I'm a huge history nerd so it's not hard to get me into games like BF1
steep thunder
i was honestly sad for a bit when i first got on BFV and saw there were no codex entries to unlock
stone remnant
Same
steep thunder
dude i need to play BF1 again, its been soo long
stone remnant
My favorite BF1 Operations maps were more Russian revolution or them fighting Austria-Hungary
steep thunder
damn, i personally loved the River Somme Shock Operation
stone remnant
Everytime i played as the Russians it felt great when you hear the soundtrack with the announcer in the background giving a glorious speech before sending you back into the fight
steep thunder
cause im pretty sure that was my last actual game of BF1 before i began drifting awya from it finally
rich ember
i love running into a guy literally flying around in BF4 and i can't get proper video evidence because the server doesn't support Spectators
Fucking trash ass servers.
steep thunder
oh my god, operations was so much better in BF1, i keep forgetting how amazing i felt every time we took a sector
stone remnant
Exactly
compact oxide
BF1 conquest wasn't even that bad
There's a reason those are the only servers still up in my region
I love BF1 so much 
stone remnant
I remember learning a bit of German from a random person when i was curious about trying foreign servers
uneven oxide
I liked the trench whistles and immersive experience in bf1
steep thunder
a few 50 soldiers gained, marking it to 150, refueled with inspiration as the music kicks up, the Austro-Hungarian fortress just in sight over the hill, and then, the dozens of shouts and trench whistles blowing around you. You dont even think when you begin bayonet charging with hype, towards the last sector, and victory...
steep thunder
sure, the balancing sucked half of the time, but it was fun. and you kept coming back because you didnt know what clip youd make or what new friend youd make in the next session
stone remnant
There was one BF1 map that was an actual trench warfare mao despite WW1 being trench based warfare... A random server i was in we actually reenact how it would actually go and it was epic
steep thunder
christ, isnt it St. Quintin?
stone remnant
Seeing half the server storm no man's land and either winning or losing the fight then the other does the same was epic
I think so... Been a bit since I've played BF1
uneven oxide
That sounds super fun
steep thunder
cause i remember there being a few trenches on a couple of maps
stone remnant
And it was an actual map that had trench warfare
uneven oxide
Was there gas/fire on the edges of the map?
steep thunder
thats the damn trench map! oh my god that was actually fun when i first played it!
stone remnant
There's fire on all maps...
steep thunder
i know what Canadian's talking about
uneven oxide
Well I’m talking large amounts on the edges
compact oxide
Was probably River Somme
steep thunder
i forgot the name, wasnt it the map in the Prologue?
uneven oxide
Passcendale
steep thunder
Yeah, that map was pretty cool too
compact oxide
River Somme had the one attacking side charging the trenches over open ground
uneven oxide
I wish they added only air maps to battlefield
stone remnant
I love trench warfare... It gives fps games a different feel
uneven oxide
Battle Of Britain or something
compact oxide
@uneven oxide they did at the end of BF1
uneven oxide
I meant BfV
stone remnant
^
steep thunder
i never really liked London Calling in BF1. It may just be because i suck in planes. But i would love to see something like the Battle of Britain in BFV, because planes are a lot cooler in my opinion
stone remnant
I like WW1 planes more tbf
steep thunder
i still have nightmares of the Ground Support Attacker...
stone remnant
They're just more maneuverable in my opinion
Unless you're a bomber... Then you're just slow
stone remnant
Lol
compact oxide
Heavy bomber definitely makes me make angry noises
solid hinge
Where do i go to find BF4 players. Im debating on bfV since its 30.00, but for now BF4
steel agate
Can't wait until the B29 Super Fortress though 😃
solid hinge
Wait are they adding more bombers?
uneven oxide
Probably with Pacific in the Fall
solid hinge
Well yea but before that