#battlefield-legacy-titles

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solid hinge
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i'll never get it

uneven oxide
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It would be cool if there were more bombs, but currently almost nothing gets hit from it

hazy wasp
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you should be able to tell who that class is based on the skin

formal valve
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I like how customization is

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With multiple pieces

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But I agree

hazy wasp
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its too much and fucks up game reading

formal valve
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Certain pieces should be locked to a class

solid hinge
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multiple pieces, sure, but per class

formal valve
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Like medical insignia

solid hinge
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all scout customization would still have you looking like a scout

hazy wasp
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I'd rather they do it like a hero system for your class (wo powers) so you can use them as call outs in game)

solid hinge
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etc

hazy wasp
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so say if your recon is Elizabeth, you can call out Liz instead of the gametag

solid hinge
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just another thing that makes the game feel rushed and incomplete

hazy wasp
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So if you DO use a mic you can tyactically talk quickk

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would work in a Modern BF with a call sign too

uneven oxide
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If two people have the same characters it could get confusing

formal valve
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I think that every piece should be available for every class, however depending on the class, a certain piece is added

solid hinge
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everyone uses helga anyways

hazy wasp
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it could

formal valve
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Example, a medics armband or helmet insignia

coarse thunder
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Gunter is great

hazy wasp
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Nope, I am Monika for my fem Recon on zeh Weirmacht

formal valve
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Or a PIAT/Panzerfaust on your back

uneven oxide
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I like Helmut

formal valve
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My company is all male

uneven oxide
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And Christian

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Same

formal valve
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I love Norman’s full intro

hazy wasp
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I use half male half female, because why not and also lol@theincels

upper vault
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Wish we had a better customization system

formal valve
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So nice

solid hinge
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MISOGY- just kidding

formal valve
solid hinge
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my company is mostly female

coarse thunder
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Is Christian the young loojjng looking guy

uneven oxide
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All males

formal valve
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No that’s Charlie’s

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I think

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Charlie and Christian big look young

hazy wasp
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Ilse is my dream girl in this game, I shall purchase that elite at some stage

solid hinge
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"young good looking guy"is pretty vague lol

uneven oxide
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Helmut and Christian look the same

formal valve
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Lmao

solid hinge
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most of the characters are pretty good looking tbh

formal valve
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They are the same

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I want Masons face from the SP

upper vault
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Which face?

uneven oxide
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I used to use Helmut/Christian exclusively

formal valve
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Mason

solid hinge
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I got killed by a shotgunner sporting the sanitater uniform haHAA

formal valve
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Mason from Under no Flag

solid hinge
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THE NUMBERS, MASON

upper vault
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Oh.

hazy wasp
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but I would prefer a set skin with basic camos like we have right now then on top of that have ability to purchase other camos for that skin/ have your patch on the skin, facepaint I'd keep seperate

formal valve
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The guy with Billy

upper vault
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I thought you meant the CoD mason,

formal valve
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No lol

coarse thunder
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The characters are modelled after DICE employees

solid hinge
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Norman looks like a younger mason

formal valve
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Kinda

upper vault
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I want Kertz’s face

solid hinge
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Ned flanders mason

upper vault
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As my tanker

solid hinge
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oh my god

formal valve
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I want a red Beret and Beard so I can make WW2 Captain Price lol

solid hinge
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are you serious?

uneven oxide
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I want all the skins from the Last Tiger

solid hinge
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tell me the model for helga and elizabeth

hazy wasp
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We need a rip off of Indiana Jones

formal valve
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Indiana Jones new elite skin

hazy wasp
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for the allies

formal valve
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That would be funny

upper vault
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I don’t think Hanna has a model

uneven oxide
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We need a farmer skin

upper vault
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Or does it

solid hinge
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Kurtz

uneven oxide
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With a straw hat and flannel shirt

hazy wasp
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they should give the Whiners the basic uniforms and then give us dumb skins

formal valve
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We need a anger Cretan Farmer skin

hazy wasp
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it's battlefield guys not some hardcore sim

formal valve
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@hazy wasp I just want a British uniform

uneven oxide
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Ridin on a Tractor

formal valve
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And then I’ll shut up

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That’s all

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And a beret

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And a SS smock

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And

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You know what

uneven oxide
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A beret by itself would be nice

formal valve
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I’ll just shh

uneven oxide
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Beret without a gasmask

formal valve
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SS camouflage Smock 😫👌

hazy wasp
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keep the SS out of the game

formal valve
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Well duh

upper vault
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I will shh if Standard issue returns.

formal valve
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I just said the Smock

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I mean the SS are already in the game

solid hinge
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das war ein Befehl!

coarse thunder
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Muh ss

formal valve
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You can make several uniforms based on them

hazy wasp
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the Weirmacht is

solid hinge
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der Angriff Steiners war ein Befehl!

formal valve
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No I’m not saying I want the SS

upper vault
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If standard issue doesn’t return, at least Epic outfits for CC would calm down the outcry.

formal valve
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I just want one of their smocks

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They look nice

hazy wasp
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im saying the SS can fuck off because actual nazis are scum

coarse thunder
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It is still SS though

formal valve
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Ok?

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It’s a piece of clothing

upper vault
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And yes the SS is already in the game. Considering the epic cosmetic reward for chapter 4

formal valve
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^

coarse thunder
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The wehrmacht had camo but none of that splinter stuff

solid hinge
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Not again

formal valve
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The Luftwaffe had the splinter camo

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I think

gray saffron
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I'd love a coat with pouches from the sandman outfit. that looks pretty british

formal valve
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Like the Luftwaffe Filed division

coarse thunder
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Wehrmacht camo is cool too, don't see why people tend to throw it under the attic

formal valve
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It is

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I think it’s just that SS dot 44 looks much more eye pleasing

uneven oxide
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The rain gear skins 😫

formal valve
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Colorful green and orange

orchid shore
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well given marita one final try

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and i given it up

earnest comet
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Everyone is crying out becausw too much gasmasks while im out here rank 50 with no gasmask unlocked yet...

coarse thunder
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They'll throw in a version of it probably since we already have SS shit in game

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But muted and distorted so it "can't be SS"

uneven oxide
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Where muh ‘Merica

formal valve
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No SS imagery at all

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Just a camouflaged Smock

upper vault
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As good as it sounds, there has to be a counter to visibility

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I’m guessing 3D spotting

coarse thunder
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The closest you can get to the dot camo is the Luftlandetruppen gear, although it is splinter camo

formal valve
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I think if they made the colors of the base camos bright like in real life

hazy wasp
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3D spotting should work within the squad

formal valve
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It would make visibility better

hazy wasp
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and have an Apex like ping system

formal valve
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@coarse thunder Luftlandtruppen is a fictional take on Splinter, yes

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Jagdflieger is a Luftwaffe camo on the torso

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Combine that with a Stalhelm and Sanitater legs and boom, Luftwaffe field division

earnest comet
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Sounds great not gonna lie

coarse thunder
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We have a lot of luftwaffe field division stuff for such early war

tacit kelp
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great game...

formal valve
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Yeah

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I wish we had more Wehrmacht and Kriegsmarine stuff in it

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Along with some SS gear and camouflages

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Maybe a actual black Panzer wrap

upper vault
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Kriegsmarine for naval update yes please

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If it happens

formal valve
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Give us Kriegsmarine uniforms

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I mean you can kinda make one already

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Stalhelm, Canned Fury Torso, And Sturmjager legs

coarse thunder
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You can make a decently accurate Panzer crewman uniform with the Aristocrat cosmetic

formal valve
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Yeah

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But you can’t make it black

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😫

earnest comet
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I really hope we get those outfits when the Tides Of War updates are around 1943 @formal valve

coarse thunder
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Although it doesn't come in black you can make it SS type with the camo

formal valve
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Which camo?

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Nah I don’t care if it’s SS or not

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I just want black on it

coarse thunder
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The latter few camos are close enough

formal valve
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Yeah

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The first German camo is kinda the Wehrmacht version of that Luftwaffe splinter camo on Jagdflieger

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It’s basically just a darker version

upper vault
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Meanwhile I’m here with no Boins

formal valve
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although a bit too dark in BFV

coarse thunder
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Boins ain't a concern. You can make yourself look nice without microtransactions

upper vault
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True.

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I just tend not to care about looking nice anyways, lol.

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I skipped the cosmetic rewards, they were meh.

coarse thunder
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No point in conplaining about boins

upper vault
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Maybe a little bit,

coarse thunder
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Imma do all the modules possible that I can tolerate to get tow xp quick

formal valve
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Creeper?

coarse thunder
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Yeah man

upper vault
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Aw man

formal valve
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It’s AW MAN you ignorant SWINE

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lmao

upper vault
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Lol

coarse thunder
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Oh no I don't know the lyrics to a minecraft parody

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What-ever shall I do

formal valve
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Lmao

tight mirage
hazy wasp
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ugh can nobody play Battlefield anymore

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nobody can do a coordinated attack on an objective they just run at it

icy sluice
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Marita isn't the best map but it's pretty fun

tight mirage
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Modern battlefield game with BFV graphics, Crazy levolution like BF4 but improved, loads of guns good progression, fun grind

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More events on maps like the flood or smting

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cmom dice

icy sluice
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I just headbutted someone as Ilse PogChamp

hazy wasp
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in Conquest you are given procedural 'Missions' as a squad leader you can accept for additional points towards your call ins

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you don't need to do them but its something to structure conquest more

midnight nimbus
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omg imagine how epic BF4 levelution with BFV visibility and graphics would be! it would probably melt your entire fucking computer

hazy wasp
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Levelution is a dumb word but it was one of the coolest thigns ina video game i have played

midnight nimbus
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then you'd spend the rest of the round at 30 fps until your PC sputters out of existence

hazy wasp
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I legit never got bored of the shanghai tower fall

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just needed an emote for my character to light a cigarette as I stood on another tower watching her come down

icy sluice
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Shanghai Tower coming down with Battlefield V graphics

polar totem
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Caspian border had a good one too

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And it might be possible with Battlefield V graphics

hazy wasp
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I got a plane to follow me under that ina dogfight and get hit by said tower as it came down

tight mirage
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Guys levolution improved like instead of the tower falling the samen it can fall different ways

hazy wasp
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the tower had like a 30degrees to the ground as I flew under the middle section of it

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was wild

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btw controversial one here

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All Maps should ship with time cycles and weather effects

polar totem
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Although you have the jackasses who blow it up even when there are friendlies up in the tower

tight mirage
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Yo i always wondered what would happen if you where in the lift while the tower fell

hazy wasp
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if they can put the additional time into balancing that across the maps, having 8-10 maps during launch is not so bad

polar totem
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You die

tight mirage
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yea but glitchy

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ot nah

midnight nimbus
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levelution already tanked your performance hard enough

hazy wasp
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the caspian tower?

icy sluice
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5 fps everytime, love it

hazy wasp
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it can get pretty low before it bugs out

midnight nimbus
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combining it with how hard BFV tanks your performance OMEGALUL

icy sluice
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tmw all y'alls PCs are worse than the Xbox One 👀

midnight nimbus
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very well designed game yes

tight mirage
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my friend said he was stuck in the lift under the fallen tower the whole game, but we where 12 so we just said fake shit lmao

hazy wasp
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the game is coded specifically for the hardware on the Xbox One, on PC its a little more complicated

midnight nimbus
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threatening to cook 6700Ks

hazy wasp
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consoles get more preformance per metal on the chip than PC's do

tight mirage
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bf3 was targeted for pc right?

midnight nimbus
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I mean that's not true

hazy wasp
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less overhead and you can push whats there more because you know whats there

midnight nimbus
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console CPUs are just shit AMD CPUs

tight mirage
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true

midnight nimbus
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they have to share memory with the GPU

solid hinge
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I hear a lot of people complaining about how the BOYS AT rifle is "so op!!!" And "NEEDS TO BE NERFED!"

Like, I haven't been killed by an AT rifle for a solid two weeks. I think its popularity ran out. You're just mad that you got killed by a gun with tonnes of downsides mr Iliketostayproneintheopen lmao

hazy wasp
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yes but you can use the SDK's to target those exact specs and push what you can get out of them

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every PC is a different config so its not as simple

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im not saying consoles are more powerful by any stretch lol

tight mirage
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what would you guys think of a slower battlefield

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like gameplay

formal valve
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Please delet hanna

tight mirage
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not running in

midnight nimbus
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literally just play squad then

tight mirage
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yea idk

hazy wasp
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V is legit the slowest its felt on modern hardware

formal valve
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Also I love Marita

tight mirage
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seems to hard

hazy wasp
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if anything it needs to speed up again

tight mirage
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is squad fun?

formal valve
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Also Marita has shown me how shit Bolt Actions are in this game

tight mirage
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looks awesome but idk

formal valve
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When your not hitting headshots

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@stoic breach you’ve been right

hazy wasp
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hit more headshots then 😛

formal valve
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The bolt actions are TRASH

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I know I usually do

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But I decided to play from Razens perspective

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And holy duck

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They suck ass

high glen
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why tf do we have a 1960's russian gas mask, in ww2

formal valve
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It’s not from the 60s

hazy wasp
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the Ross and LE are good for pushing

formal valve
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That was debunked

high glen
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it's a gp-5

formal valve
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It’s a GP-4

hazy wasp
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the KAR and Krag are good for spot sniping

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the M95 is weirdly in between

polar totem
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Everything else though is garbage

hazy wasp
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it'd be great if frames didn;t dip when im trying to lead a target with the bolt though

high glen
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the gp-4 was a dark green

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and had an extended release valve

formal valve
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It’s not the Gp-4 nevermind

hazy wasp
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OH

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Heres one to think on

formal valve
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But I know it was debunked that it’s not actually the Gp-5

hazy wasp
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Score bonus for proximity to squad

formal valve
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I don’t know what but there’s a similar model to the GP-5

high glen
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it's exactly a gp-5

formal valve
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The real question we should be asking

high glen
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with a hose and a different filter

hazy wasp
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when your squad is withina certain distance of each other workign as a unit your scores get a bonus multiplyer depending how many of your squad is there

formal valve
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Is why is there a Chinese gas mask from 2009?

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In a WW2 game

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Now that’s a real question

high glen
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which one is that again?

formal valve
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The AKA/Dead mans hand

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It’s basically the same as the Chinese engineers mask from BF4

high glen
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bruh

formal valve
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Me when I unlocked the new helmet

trim token
hazy wasp
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btw is the mountain on marita a shrunken down Monte Grappy

formal valve
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I like Marita

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I thought I’d hate it

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Because I like big maps

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But it’s really good

icy sluice
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ye

formal valve
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Needs a rework on Breakthrough

hazy wasp
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the pistol damage drop off is bad

icy sluice
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Jee, it didn't take too long for someone to edit in "SOMEBODY" when Ilse kicked down the door

formal valve
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Played a few games with Flakfire and it was kinda shit

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Flak made a few good suggestions tho

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Like a passage way that goes through the mountain side from A to E

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For a good flank

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So you don’t have to run the gauntlet of C

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But Breakthrough sucks

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Like if rather play Mercury frontlines than this

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And I loathe Mercury frontlines

solid hinge
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I‘m really liking the look of the new map

formal valve
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Yeah

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Beautiful map

solid hinge
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Looks 100x better than any other bfv map

formal valve
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Flakfires a pretty chill dude

kind cliff
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Marita is so nice

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When will the next map come?

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They said they are going to release two maps this time around right?

formal valve
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Yeah

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Two small CQC mode maps at the end of August

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And Al Sundan probably somewhere this month

kind cliff
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AI sundan is already out

formal valve
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Not on conquest

kind cliff
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But not for any big modes

formal valve
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And Breakthrough

kind cliff
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Oh ok I see

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The next map will be on August?

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Not anytime sooner?

formal valve
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End of August

kind cliff
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I thought the roadmap says Marita will come with another map

formal valve
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The two CQC maps

kind cliff
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Uh ok

formal valve
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Lofoten Islands And Provence

solid hinge
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When is the pacific stuff? September?

hazy wasp
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the weapon balance against the riberyroles is a joke

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it just melts you every time

kind cliff
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No October or November I think

formal valve
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October is Operation Underground

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Pretty sure the pacific comes at the end o September

solid hinge
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Hmm

formal valve
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Only judging by past ToW releases

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A week in between each one

solid hinge
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Tru

formal valve
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But they might have a different plan this time

solid hinge
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End of September sounds about right from what I remember

formal valve
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Yeah cuz Ch4 ends September 19

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So a week later would be the 26th

upper vault
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Wait Al Sundan is end of August?

opaque pawn
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We dont even know

formal valve
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No

hazy wasp
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hahahaha

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you can drive the tractor on marita

formal valve
hazy wasp
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Marita is fine..

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middle of the road kinda map, very pretty

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Better than mercury

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not quite as good as Panzer

solid hinge
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Did they nerf the stg 44?

strong pecan
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Marita reminds me the capporeto map

steel agate
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Yeah that's the first thing I said, too

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A smaller Capporetto with villages and more mountain terrain

solid hinge
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Its fancy, good looking, however some losers are complaining due to the fact that there are campers

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I like marita alot tbh

hazy wasp
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my opinion wil probably change the more i play it

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like I used to be okay with Aerodrome but it can fuck off now

steel agate
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I do wish that the castle was in a playable area. It should have been the last sector of Breakthrough, so it would be like the castle in the last sector of BF1's Monte Grappa

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That would make Marita a much better map

opaque pawn
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Yeah but then you could shoot down at people

steel agate
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Well, yeah but it'll be via sectors only

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Breakthrough

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Not open in conquest

hazy wasp
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my major iss is all the pathing they do with invisible walls and out of Zone barriers

opaque pawn
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People will be like "plox add to CQ"

hazy wasp
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I don't care if you get me froma clever spot

solid hinge
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Tf is cq

opaque pawn
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Conquest

solid hinge
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Oh...

hazy wasp
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they need to loosen that up on all the maps honestly

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people forget like in BF4 you could get on top of Skyscrapers and we all dealt with it by trying to get up there or shooting them with a rifle

solid hinge
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Honestly this game needs better fortifications (especially in breakthrough)

hazy wasp
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for sucha cool mechanic it neeeds more of them

solid hinge
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Yes

hazy wasp
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I'd actually like to see them as deployables in a future warfare battlefield

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or call ins from sub orbit like star hawk/titanfall

icy sluice
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You can build a bridge to flank in the 2nd sector of Marita

solid hinge
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Oh, thats cool

icy sluice
uneven oxide
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Neat

hazy wasp
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honestly the biggest thing with BFV right now is it has an identity crisis

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it wants to be Rainbow Six, and PUBG and CoD and Battlefield

solid hinge
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Really love the new map

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Best in the game rn as far as im concerned

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Breakthrough is the best mode
Change my mind

uneven oxide
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I’ve got a bug where I can control the tractor but no ones on it

hazy wasp
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Conquest is superior

steel agate
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I like Devastation the most so far

icy sluice
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I just prefer Conquest

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Devastation is great fun

coral fiber
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Same

steel agate
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Operation Underground will probably top that

hazy wasp
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Conquest is how battlefiweld is mean't to be played

solid hinge
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Conquest plays great on marita

hazy wasp
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slams table

solid hinge
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Why?

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Made me actually enjoy conquest in bf5

hazy wasp
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its 'The' mode 😛

icy sluice
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@hazy wasp OBJECTION

solid hinge
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Breakthrough is realistic

steel agate
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Waiting for Metro 2.0... it can't come any sooner

hazy wasp
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btw let me prefence

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Conquest in BFV is the worst its been

solid hinge
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For me its frontlines/breakthrough

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Love the modes

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^

icy sluice
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It won't 100% be Metro, and I think people are going to yell because of that lol

solid hinge
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Wtf is metro, im not a veteran

icy sluice
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They've said it won't just be a copy of Metro

hazy wasp
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Battlefield should be land sea and air with a ton of vehicles + Infantry

icy sluice
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Operation Metro is the most infamous Battlefield map to date

solid hinge
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Think westie said its not even close to metro

icy sluice
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It's the most close quarter map to date

uneven oxide
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JUST RODE A TRACTOR PAST THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM

hazy wasp
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Ah you are new, fair enough you wont understand the CQ stuff then

icy sluice
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No Vehicles at all.

solid hinge
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Oh, basically a place full of suomies and thompsons

hazy wasp
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Operation metro and its demon younger cousin Operation Locker are the meat grinders of the series

rich ember
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Cut the sea, it's useless.

uneven oxide
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Some dirty bastard tried stealing my tractor

hazy wasp
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you push bodies in, you see revive symbols pop out

solid hinge
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Full of finns and tommies

icy sluice
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Fort Du Vaux is also a meat grinder

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but it isn't on the same level as Locker or Metro

hazy wasp
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its a better laid out map than the other two

icy sluice
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Yes

solid hinge
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Liked that map

hazy wasp
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more flank oppurtunity

uneven oxide
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If any bastard tries touching my tractor

icy sluice
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Fort Du Vaux, or as I like to call it "Keep on running straight into my hail of bullets, you fucking dumbasses"

hazy wasp
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pity everything about the gameplay in BF1 irked me but i liked the stting for that map

solid hinge
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I loved ops in BF1 and their dramatic cutscenes

icy sluice
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I love Norman's intro

uneven oxide
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I actually like how no one really shoots at you in the tractor cause you look so stupid

solid hinge
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I played it even with 300 ping

hazy wasp
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IF i were to make BF, I'd combine the narrative and the 'operations' into what would replace the SP

formal valve
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@icy sluice same

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It’s beautiful

hazy wasp
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then do really solid modes of Conquest, Breakthrough and Frontlines

solid hinge
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Imagine a pvpve mode

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Massive frontline battle

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Bruhhh

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Breakthrough rather

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Wr need a 64 player frontline

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Have legit huge battle fields

icy sluice
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Norman is my Support

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Ilse is my Medic

solid hinge
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True trench warfare 👌 😤

hazy wasp
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we really don't need a 64P frontline jesus you sadistic git lol

solid hinge
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Oof

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Did you rly buy norman

icy sluice
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I fucking love Norman's voice

solid hinge
#

Ilse scares me

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Thats about the only new thing about it

#

Everything else is recycled assets

icy sluice
#

I got the bundle

hazy wasp
#

thank you for funding our content

solid hinge
#

Money well spent @icy sluice👌

icy sluice
#

lol

solid hinge
#

More like

hazy wasp
#

im not kidding on that

solid hinge
#

That money is pocketed

#

So

hazy wasp
#

but yeah i'd strip down BF to its base and rework it next time out

icy sluice
#

Kinda like buying cosmetics in LoL, DOTA, TF2 or CS:GO

solid hinge
#

Thank you for funding some EA execs dinner drink

hazy wasp
#

get it back to what BF was about

solid hinge
#

:^)

#

Fuck EA

hazy wasp
#

I maintain though customization needs to be toned down a tad and make class base customizations lock so i know what class im fighting

icy sluice
#

Gamers rise up

solid hinge
#

😤

#

Class recognition isnt an issue

hazy wasp
#

Supports should always have a ton of supplies on them

icy sluice
#

I think classes should have things on their back to better recognize them

hazy wasp
#

Medics should have medic uniforms of some form + a cross on the helmet

solid hinge
#

Makes no difference what class the guy youre shooting at is

#

We need a historically accurate skin, i would buy

hazy wasp
#

Recons should look like sneaky bois and gals

#

Assaults shpould look like they are gonna run at you screaming

icy sluice
#

Assaults have their launchers, Medics have medical bags or crutches, Supports get ammo crates on their backs and Recon gets fuck all

coarse thunder
#

Recons should always have some form of long coat or rain jacket

solid hinge
#

Recon is bad circlejerk

#

Hekk yeah

hazy wasp
#

Recon gets Knives

solid hinge
#

Fuck recon and that useless annoying class

hazy wasp
#

lotds n lots of knives

icy sluice
#

kek, read my name

solid hinge
#

Btw I just went 32-6 on marita conquest with recon krag irons

#

But yeah recon bad

hazy wasp
#

ah you have not come across good recons yet have you?

solid hinge
#

Its ok as long you PTFO

#

I have

#

But apparently everyone and their grandma thinks recon is bad

coarse thunder
#

Recon in general is only useful to a few

hazy wasp
#

Recons are supposed to be hated

solid hinge
#

99% of the recons i meet are spawncampers

rich ember
#

I never understand how to properly PTFO as Recon.

solid hinge
#

Also most of the people who think recons are bad and need a buff are recon mains

coarse thunder
#

Unless you are part of the 1% headshot club

hazy wasp
#

be accurate be clever

#

pick your fights

solid hinge
#

Spam flare lol

hazy wasp
#

act as forward spawn, spot people

solid hinge
#

Free information

hazy wasp
#

call out targets

solid hinge
#

Literally a top tier gadget

#

Easily makes recon the best class in the game

hazy wasp
#

throwing knife does

rich ember
#

i really should stop talking because people are gonna assume i play BFV

solid hinge
#

@rich ember
1 P08 carbine with 3x scope
2 Flares
3 kill everyone,

#

STG has the best iron sights in the game change my mind

hazy wasp
#

currently the most effective quiet way to take someone out

solid hinge
#

Not the best

hazy wasp
#

we should have a non knife takedown thats totally silent

icy sluice
#

Laughs in Lee Enfield

coarse thunder
#

Idk if recon is the best class in the game

hazy wasp
#

if you aren't a grunt it is

#

its a class for the refined to use well

#

men and women of culture

solid hinge
#

Assault > support > medic > recon

hazy wasp
#

Assault is way to easy to play

solid hinge
#

Medic > assault*

coarse thunder
#

I'd say assault "grunts" are the best

solid hinge
#

Yeah

#

Information is the best gadget

uneven oxide
#

The tractor dissapperwd BibleThump

solid hinge
#

Wait nvm

#

If you can see where the enemy is at all times

#

Thats good

#

Assault has SARs and they’re crazy strong

coarse thunder
#

Anti infantry and anti tank combined with 20 bullets per kill if you use the starting combat role

#

You can gain ammunition as an assault

solid hinge
#

Medic > Support > Assault
No recon cus recons arent people

hazy wasp
#

Assault has zero downsides

#

thanks for saying im not people

coarse thunder
#

Recon is currently high risk no reward unfortunately

solid hinge
#

Pfft

hazy wasp
#

(I'm kidding I feed off the salt)

solid hinge
#

Recon is literally no risk high reward cuz of flares

hazy wasp
#

idk getting the odd rage messsage keeps me going

#

i don't use flares I use the scope

solid hinge
#

When recon gets their flare taken away then we can talk about recon buffs

hazy wasp
#

Scope + spawn beacon

solid hinge
#

Recon doesnt do much in breakthrough

coarse thunder
#

As I've said before, boosting recon bolt velocities is probably the best way to get them back into relevancy in the general population of gamers

solid hinge
#

Hell no

hazy wasp
#

on defence I use decoys + spotting scope

#

enemy shoots decoy, enemy team is lit

solid hinge
#

Recons already fill 2/4ths of every team

#

no no

#

We dont need them to be even easier to use

#

what bolts need is body damage buffs

#

bolt actions should have velocities matching their supposed role of long range

#

They already do

coarse thunder
#

When bolt actions have velocity comparable to smgs then there is a problem

solid hinge
#

Literally every semi auto has a higher velocity than even the highest velocity bolt

hazy wasp
#

yup

solid hinge
#

And?

#

Three smgs have higher velocity than the Lee

#

Semi autos dont have ohk

#

Semi autos have incredibly easy magdump potential

#

semi autos dont have terribad body shot ttks

hazy wasp
#

in the time it takes you to body shot an eneny with a bolt

solid hinge
#

it's not even the ttk

hazy wasp
#

a SAR will hit you with 3-4 bullets killing you

solid hinge
#

Irrelevant

#

the dps is just awful

hazy wasp
#

taking headshot MP out of the mix

solid hinge
#

just click on their head blobpopcorn blobpopcorn blobpopcorn

#

Tbh

hazy wasp
#

i mean I do

solid hinge
#

Gotta git gud

hazy wasp
#

Im using body shots as an example

solid hinge
#

If I have no issues at getting headshots with irons at 200m yall shouldnt have issues at 100m with scopes

#

Like cmon

#

even if you land a headshot with every single bullet in a bolt, you'll be killing people slower than the other weapons past the first shot

hazy wasp
#

yup

coarse thunder
#

Semi autos have 3 btk on average with magazines of 10+ bullets. Unless a recon hits every single shot per magazine then they tend to not be superior

rich ember
#

@solid hinge Do you do this all the time? On PC?

solid hinge
#

Xbox

rich ember
#

That explains it

solid hinge
#

And not all the time

#

I hate recon

#

Scrub class

rich ember
#

Opinion's irrelevant.

#

get out of here.

solid hinge
#

the velocities make them a pain in the ass to use at range because people tend to not run in straight lines

#

Git gud

#

700m/s on the fastest bolt is shit

hazy wasp
#

Also recons this time round Zeroing a shot is a bitch

solid hinge
#

also i frequently top and i basically solely use the krag, and im still saying its shit

hazy wasp
#

so at range you have a sun flare scope glint, you have to judge the drop and not get shot

solid hinge
#

It's honestly not worth shooting at longer ranges

hazy wasp
#

@solid hinge is a quality recon I can confirm

solid hinge
#

Also

#

Where the fuck are you shooting at long range

#

if they're beyond like 80 metres then you're better off spotting scoping people

#

Bf5 maps are small asf

#

Only place I can think of is like panzerstorm breakthrough

#

the bodyshot damage is also teeny

#

It aint

#

for a game where you can activate regen immediately

hazy wasp
#

what 69 is the max on the KAR

solid hinge
#

Krag has 54 max

#

That drops to 50 on a limb hit

hazy wasp
#

mhm

solid hinge
#

They can literally outheal you if they start healing immediately after being hit

#

Whats 54+54

#

108

#

And whats the player health?

#

100

#

Did you note the part where everyone has access to immediate health regen

hazy wasp
#

Whats the DPS in bolt cycle vs an SAR, AR, SMG, MMG, LMG?

coarse thunder
#

Two body shots withh krag Ayla means

solid hinge
#

lul at all the moments where i had to shoot someone 3 times

#

with a 60 rpm weapon

#

that i have to unads to fire again

#

If you give them time to use the pouch

#

Its not the weapons fault

#

the 60rpm is even smaller when you have a scope on it

hazy wasp
#

your bolt cycle gives them the time

solid hinge
#

I literally cannot shoot the gun fast enough to prevent them from healing

#

you do know that they can heal immediately, right?

#

sofort

#

You have to unscope, bolt, rescope at minimum

#

Oh yeah forgot yous use scopes

#

by the time you've unads'd, cycled, ads'd and then reaquired the target

#

usually you have to acquire target after scoping as well which can take a lil while

#

yeah i think that's enough time to gain 5 health and survive another shot

hazy wasp
#

Also your orientation is temp fucked when you scope in

solid hinge
#

plus like, theres just no reason for it to be 54 bodyshot damage

#

that's tiny

hazy wasp
#

we are talking fractions of a second here but it all ads up

solid hinge
#

it's a bolt action

#

it should be doing 60 minimum

#

Hows bolt action justify it

#

you know why bolt actions are still relevant today?

#

because they usually have faster muzzle velocities

#

When your gun is slow as piss then its gotta hit hard

#

not in this game

hazy wasp
#

and are accurate af

solid hinge
#

Pretty sure the karabiner uses the same cartridge as the stg44

#

The Krag has ZH level bodyshot damage

#

Apart from the ZH shoots over double the speed

#

triple

#

Who uses the zh

#

a lot of people

hazy wasp
#

Me

solid hinge
#

Weird

#

it's insanely good

#

just double tap people to death

hazy wasp
#

that is what we call the house cleaner

solid hinge
#

Its a chinese gun that was never even used in ww2

#

from any range

#

Not to mention how wonky it is

#

ZH is unironically recon's best aggressive ranged option

coarse thunder
#

Bolt actions are only relevant because the Boys is a bolt action 😂

solid hinge
#

the boys can go fuck itself

#

themselves

#

and it still loses to the g43

hazy wasp
#

if you can clear kills with a magazine you can drop an entire squad with your ZH and only a single reload

solid hinge
#

Need that git gud juice potion

coarse thunder
#

But yeah the SLRs, in particular the Selb 1906 and ZH, are generally a better option for the general population

hazy wasp
#

you also have to hold breath for full accuracy with SLR vs not with the SAR

solid hinge
#

Stop blaming guns and maybe look at ur playstyle

tacit kelp
#

@solid hinge What about RSC??

solid hinge
#

If u cant hit ppl at 200m with a 6x scope

hazy wasp
#

my playstyle is fine, the game has some issues it needs to fix

solid hinge
#

headshot them

#

bodyshots at 200m might as well be not hitting them

hazy wasp
#

@solid hinge you on PC or PS4 dude?

icy sluice
#

laughs in headshot

solid hinge
#

console

#

even if it's damn sexy

#

what's a scratchoid

#

@tacit kelp RSC goes from 2btk to 3btk after 50 metres, so it sucks for ranged combat but its comfy up close

#

I honestly dont know

topaz dome
#

zh is my favorite, but I use other guns to work on getting everything to 10

solid hinge
#

Then what are u complaining about

#

Made that account when I was 11 and had no idea what I was thinking

hazy wasp
#

a robot that scratches names off the kill list

solid hinge
#

Why do u need it to be easier

#

name changes

#

i regret my name change lol

#

Being good with a bad gun doesnt mean the gun doesnt deserve a buff

#

i wanna give the p08 another try now that it's a plane

#

But why would it need a buff

icy sluice
#

@solid hinge Only 677 dogtags taken... pathetic

solid hinge
#

Its not a bad gun

#

especially since they keep buffing the p08 and it was already really good

#

Raptor ;_;

#

p08 is the best plane in the game

#

I have no idea how you do it I melee everyone I can

hazy wasp
#

my most used gun is the STEN apaprently

#

this tracker is busted because it isn;t the STEN lol

solid hinge
#

It tracks the sten while you're inside vehicles

topaz dome
#

I have something like 270 dog tags and am in the top 3% or something on pc OMEGALUL

solid hinge
#

for some reason

#

The bolt actions are the weakest class of guns in the game currently

topaz dome
#

230 top 1% *

hazy wasp
#

Bolt actions are basically hard mode

topaz dome
#

people undervalue the melee kill denying revive

solid hinge
#

Untrue

#

Bolt actions are fine

#

it denying revive stops enemy medics from seeing that revive symbol and checking the area as well

#

melee rules

#

when it doesnt BREAK

#

My fav melee kill is when your guy whiffs 3 times and the enemy clubs u to death

topaz dome
#

break like takes more than one stab when you are breathing down their neck?

solid hinge
#

Even if you think bolt actions are fine I'd be interested to see how you'd explain them not being the weakest class of weapons currently

#

The amount of times the execution just doesnt trigger on melee

#

I've meleed so many people in the back for 55 and they've turned around and shot me

#

Im not claiming theyre not the weakest, youre claiming they are the weakest

hazy wasp
#

the Melee system was fine in BF1

solid hinge
#

So its not on me to provide evidence for your claim

hazy wasp
#

V its completely busted

formal valve
#

They are pretty weak

#

I’ve even come to realize that

hazy wasp
#

its usually the crouch walk that will do you though you cannot execute out of crouch walk

solid hinge
#

I mean.. if you're saying im wrong then you're saying they're not the weakest

formal valve
#

They are

solid hinge
#

But youre saying theyre the weakest

formal valve
#

They are

solid hinge
#

Youre supposed to back your claim up

#

Not tell me that I need to prove why they arent

#

Lol

#

Thats how arguments work

wraith walrus
#

ANYONE DTS

hazy wasp
#

Ayla did lol

solid hinge
#

Did you miss the past 15 minutes of us saying how they have piss poor damage & velocity

#

But they dont?

formal valve
#

....

icy sluice
#

Down
To
Shit?

formal valve
#

They do you numbbrain

solid hinge
#

54 on a bodyshot is objectively terrible for a sniper in any fps

#

What other bolt action in the game has faster for you to compare and say they are

formal valve
#

^

solid hinge
#

Let alone an fps where you can regen instantly

formal valve
#

They are pretty shitty

solid hinge
#

I think you are just mad you cant hit shots

formal valve
#

Unless you can hit consistent headshots

topaz dome
#

gotta pop them heads

formal valve
#

No

#

I can hit headshots

solid hinge
#

And blame it on “insta regen” and “piss poor velocity”

#

the highest velocity bolts are still slower than every semi auto

#

Talking to ayla

formal valve
#

oh my god

solid hinge
#

I literally linked my stats

formal valve
#

Dude

hazy wasp
#

I think somebody is just trying to get into ana rgument and isn't lsitening to points here

solid hinge
formal valve
#

How do you not understand tho

solid hinge
#

I dont read ur messages

#

SS robert

formal valve
#

Oh yeah forgot

#

I’m a Nazi

rich ember
#

🤔

formal valve
#

Fucken snowflake

solid hinge
#

Yeah because the shutzstaffel wasnt associated with nazi germany

#

Big brain gamer

formal valve
#

”I don’t read your messages
responds to me

#

I didn’t say that at all

#

But ok

#

I have screenshots btw

#

I never said SS wasn’t Nazi

solid hinge
#

What do you need screenshots for lmao

icy sluice
#

You can also use message links

formal valve
#

But I’m not getting into this again

solid hinge
#

hold up; this argument was about me being right

#

Did you send them to your friends to justify what you said

formal valve
#

I don’t feel like doing this argument agian

solid hinge
#

Me neither

formal valve
#

Mostly cuz I don’t want to deal with a brainlet

solid hinge
#

I cant stand nazi sympathizers

formal valve
#

LMAO

#

ok

hazy wasp
#

to be fair the dude never said he was a nazi sympathizer

formal valve
#

Because defending Italians who were forced into the German military is being a Nazi

#

Yeah, fuck you kid

solid hinge
#

He claimed an italian SS soldier wasnt a nazi

formal valve
#

Because he wasn’t.....

solid hinge
formal valve
#

He was absorbed into the german military

solid hinge
#

Not this again

icy sluice
formal valve
#

Exactly @solid hinge

#

Not getting into this

solid hinge
#

Italians aren't even IN bfv

#

Not even the german military

formal valve
#

I don’t feel like it

solid hinge
#

The motherfucking SS

#

the literal peak of nazi scum

coarse thunder
#

He may not be a nazi but I have no sympathy for him. You don't have to be a nazi to be a nazi, so to speak

formal valve
#

I provided him a article btw

icy sluice
#

Are we the baddies?

formal valve
#

About the particular division

#

And he didn’t read it

#

So he has no idea what I’m talking about

solid hinge
#

You linked me an wikipedia page of the battalion

formal valve
#

*division

solid hinge
#

And I linked you the wikipedia page of the SS

icy sluice
#

SO, how about them YANKS!?

formal valve
#

And?

solid hinge
#

After which you proudly proclaimed you dont need wikipedia

formal valve
#

I aslready know about the SS

#

You idiot

steel agate
#

Hey Mac McMillan errr @icy sluice, how do you get pics to show up?

formal valve
#

🤦

solid hinge
#

And before that you even had to look up if italian SS existed

formal valve
#

Not this again

solid hinge
#

You muppet

formal valve
#

Yes

icy sluice
#

!!regular

ruby trailBOT
#

The Regular role is earned by members who are active, welcoming and resourceful on the server.

icy sluice
#

@steel agate

formal valve
#

And I read the article

#

Unlike you

icy sluice
#

The staff has to give you the rights

formal valve
#

But yeah

#

I’m a Nazi

solid hinge
#

Did the article say he wasnt a nazi

#

Where does it say an italian ss soldier isnt a nazi

icy sluice
#

I'll see if I can nominate you for regular

formal valve
#

No the article said they were absorbed into the SS during the invasion of Italy

hazy wasp
#

at least when the private matches come in these guys can 1v1 each other on Aerodrome

formal valve
#

But whatever

uneven oxide
#

Why are we back on this

formal valve
#

I don’t know

solid hinge
#

So that means theyre nazis

formal valve
#

He called me a Nazi

#

No it doesn’t

uneven oxide
#

Why does it matter

formal valve
#

I don’t know

#

He’s an idiot

solid hinge
#

I'm about to bayonet everyone in this channel starting with myself

#

Any PS4 users here?

formal valve
#

@solid hinge I’m sorry m8

coarse thunder
#

Y'all are talking about the 29th SS?

solid hinge
#

Its funny how you keep constantly using rude language

formal valve
#

I don’t want to get into this again

uneven oxide
#

Nazis are stupid but you don’t have to go around looking for trouble just to satisfy yourself

solid hinge
#

Telling me im an idiot

#

And keep constantly pinging the mod with hearts

#

At least argue about a different thing WoahPing

formal valve
#

But I’m gonna defend myself against being called a Nazi

#

So

solid hinge
#

Youre a true fucking muppet man I have to say

#

I’m new to this server. Is it possible to post a picture here by any chance?

#

Keep pretending SS isnt nazi

#

Gl on getting into society with that

formal valve
#

@solid hinge you need a certain permission

#

Ok

solid hinge
#

Ok official warning; change the subject or I start flexing my orange name

coarse thunder
solid hinge
#

okay

uneven oxide
#

Ooooo

formal valve
#

Honestly I’d be fine if I got muted for a few days

solid hinge
#

Me too

#

I need to post a screenshot so I can recruit people lol

icy sluice
#

Shall we play a game?

coarse thunder
#

Recruit people for what

formal valve
#

I need to stop checking into this server when certain people are here

solid hinge
#

SvG

#

Ps4

#

Platoon

formal valve
#

Because they always start a conversation about something I say

icy sluice
formal valve
#

And I’m sick of it

solid hinge
#

Especially when its a guy who had an SS soldier as a pfp and said a moderator getting mad at it would be a snowflake

uneven oxide
#

De escalate

solid hinge
#

okay thank you

formal valve
#

No

solid hinge
icy sluice
#

Shall we play a game?

formal valve
#

I said a moderator would get mad because an SS pfp is kinda inappropriate

uneven oxide
#

Yes

hazy wasp
#

what like Battlefield 😛

formal valve
#

So I changed it

solid hinge
#

No you didnt

icy sluice
#

How about a nice game of Chess?

uneven oxide
#

Sure

formal valve
#

Honestly I’ll just block you

solid hinge
#

You said if a moderator got mad theyd be a snowflake

formal valve
#

You’re getting blocked

solid hinge
#

Thats what sparked our whole argument

#

Good

coarse thunder
#

Would you kindly [insert]

uneven oxide
#

Are you going to be white or black?

solid hinge
#

Later SS man

formal valve
#

Just unlocked the Royal Navy Dirk

solid hinge
#

Cant stand people who sympathize with nazis

formal valve
#

The British Naval Dagger as called in game

solid hinge
#

So fucking disgusting

#

Anyhow

coarse thunder
#

I assume that's Norman's knife

formal valve
#

Yeah

solid hinge
#

Moving on

formal valve
#

I want to apologize to the mods for this shot

uneven oxide
#

Chess, anyone?

formal valve
#

I’m sick of getting into these stupid historical arguments

icy sluice
#

That's what was said about changing pfp and that's it

formal valve
#

With people who know nothing

solid hinge
#

Can we go back to agreeing bolt actions are the weakest guns in the game now

formal valve
#

^

solid hinge
#

No we cant

icy sluice
#

Did you know that Germany lost the war?

solid hinge
#

Because its not true

formal valve
#

Spoiler alert! @icy sluice

solid hinge
#

Aha

uneven oxide
#

Did you know France comes back for round 2?

solid hinge
#

Bolt actions are good lol

formal valve
#

Lmao

solid hinge
#

If it's not true then that means there must be guns weaker than the bolts

#

But there aren't

formal valve
#

Well

solid hinge
#

so i win

formal valve
#

Pistols exist

solid hinge
#

just aim for the face

formal valve
#

Ehhhh

#

Pistols are pistols tho so

#

Nvm

solid hinge
#

Those are less like guns and more like toys

formal valve
#

Lmao

uneven oxide
#

Missing the Kolibri pistol rn

formal valve
#

Miss that thing

#

So funny

uneven oxide
#

Pellet gun

icy sluice
#

The sniper humiliator

solid hinge
#

Did you guys play the new map?

formal valve
#

Is that guy gone?

uneven oxide
#

Yes

formal valve
#

Thank god

icy sluice
#

Marita = Fun

formal valve
#

New map is fun

uneven oxide
#

Marita: Tractor

solid hinge
#

I had 66-12 my first go lol I like it better than devastation

formal valve
#

I’m sorry all of you

uneven oxide
#

I love running past the enemy in a farm veichle

rich ember
#

I wish battlelog showed the origin account of whoever runs a server

formal valve
#

I know y’all are sick of seeing these arguments

rich ember
#

because i wanna know who the fuck runs that Classic TDM server on BF4.

formal valve
#

I’m sick of them too

solid hinge
#

Speaking of severs when are we getting private ones

formal valve
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September I think?

rich ember
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You're gonna not want 'em when you get 'em.

uneven oxide
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Sick

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I want the Hardcore modes on BfV like they had in bf1

solid hinge
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this game takes so long to processs new content and features

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I’m tired of fighting for a knife or weapon skin every week

formal valve
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Anyway, I’m gonna try not to make anymore historical arguments in the server

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Always leads to the same thing

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So let’s just move away from it

uneven oxide
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When we getting the Schwimwagon in other game modes

rich ember
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Does anyone know who runs the Classic TDM server on BF4?

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Or knows how i can find out?

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Battlelog is no help. No clan is listed. I've never seen a moderator.

formal valve
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?

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I don’t know what you mean

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Is that a server name?

formal valve
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Ok

solid hinge
formal valve
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Not responding

solid hinge
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If I get muted at least I’ll get muted doing the right thing

formal valve
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Not even opening the message

uneven oxide
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He’s back

formal valve
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Go away please

rich ember
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@solid hinge you're aware people could be intimidated into enlisting, out of fear for their families or themselves, right?