#battlefield-legacy-titles

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formal valve
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I wasn’t suggesting that

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You can still play how you want with the tanks, just you might not do it as well as another tank does

midnight nimbus
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i mean "Tiger I, purely meant for armor on armor fights"

formal valve
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It would still be able to fight infantry

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Just wouldn’t be as good for it

midnight nimbus
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BFV vehicle design is already overly restrictive and one dimensional enough

formal valve
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It would be slower and heavier

rich ember
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aren't tanks already heavy and slow tho

midnight nimbus
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yeah overly slow

formal valve
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Again, you can use the tanks however you want, but you might benefit from playing the role your tank is supposed to perform

midnight nimbus
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that's why BFV vehicle v vehicle combat sucks so bad

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and tanks camp so much

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BFV tank max speed is slower than irl max speed

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tank sprint needs to come back

formal valve
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lmao imagine wanting WW2 tanks to be fast as modern tanks

midnight nimbus
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if it's good for gameplay, why not?

formal valve
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Uh no

midnight nimbus
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staghound irl is much faster than it is in BFV

formal valve
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Hey actually are faster than real life max speeds

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And their turrets turn to fast

midnight nimbus
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they quite literally aren't in BFV

compact oxide
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Sprint could be good tbh

midnight nimbus
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yes, turret turn limits were so successful /s

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epic campy gameplay

compact oxide
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Short periods where they can go fast

midnight nimbus
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we should limit soldier turn limits next

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no one can 180 that fast irl

formal valve
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Well no fucking shit

compact oxide
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@midnight nimbus don't give DICE ideas, that sounds like something they'd actually do

steel agate
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How will the BF1 howitzer tank compare against BFV tanks? No turret restriction, super strong round, but more rudimentary build from 20 years back........

rich ember
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oh god that'd make movement even worse than BC2's

midnight nimbus
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muh realism isn't a good argument if a touch of unrealistic design makes gameplay much better

steel agate
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I think that I'll take the BF1 howitzer light tank over most of the tanks in BFV

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not IRL, in the game

midnight nimbus
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speedy boi tanks were fun

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and made tank v tank much more engaging and gave it much more depth

steel agate
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aiming third person in BFV is atrociously more difficult and less fun to engage other tanks

midnight nimbus
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BFV rn is just sitting there and lobbing shells at each other without much movement bc the turret turning makes aim input awful

steel agate
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I like to fight in third person and I got my aim down perfectly in BF1

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BFV, it's a crapshoot

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for third person

midnight nimbus
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I don't mind requiring tankers to use 1p more often

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I do like 3p being less reliable at range

steel agate
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Yeah but I like dominating and killing a ton of enemies at range

formal valve
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God I wish Hell Let Loose was on console so I don’t have to argue any more

midnight nimbus
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I liken it to hipfire vs ADS

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3p should be for max visibility and quick reaction

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1p for max accuracy

formal valve
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I use 1p most of the time

midnight nimbus
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adding terrible input delays wasn't the solution

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bc 3p is just now nearly useless

compact oxide
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Forcing 1st person more often is a big thing for me, and always has been

steel agate
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I mean, it would help with immersion sure

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I just got way too used to it

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playing in third person in previous titles

midnight nimbus
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I wouldn't wanna force 1p to make tanks usable, I'd just prefer a reason to use both 1p and 3p more equally

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idt 1p was important enough before BFV

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but now in BFV, 3p is too irrelevant

compact oxide
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Less immersion, more I want to actually have it possible to sneak up on a tanker and mine them at all

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With 3rd person they just go "oh, theres an inf there"

midnight nimbus
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I mean I'm ok with that

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3p makes vehicle play a lot more interesting

steel agate
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I mean tanks took a HUGE hit going from BF1 to BFV... attrition, much more difficult third person shooting and turret system...

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I think it's the huge jump - the relative different is so big of an adjustment

midnight nimbus
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I think the problem is more that BFV infy counters to vehicles suck

coarse thunder
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Don't mind the current implementation of tanks except the horriblr unzoomed 1p input lag

drifting marsh
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yeah the turret moves like irl

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o.O

midnight nimbus
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in BF3/4, two RPGs can kill a tank, but tanks are actually fast with good turrets

drifting marsh
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not with 100% sentivity lol

midnight nimbus
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I thought it was more interesting when both parties are more capable

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vs both parties kinda sucking

steel agate
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Wait @coarse thunder I thought the lag was removed

coarse thunder
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Was it

midnight nimbus
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no

coarse thunder
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I haven't played in a tank since the update

steel agate
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I was playing in a tank since the patch and I don't have lag when killing enemies

midnight nimbus
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BFV's implementation of turret limits kinda depends on "lag"

coarse thunder
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Not actual lag

midnight nimbus
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if you move too far too fast, your input is delayed after the fact

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hard to explain

coarse thunder
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But when you turn the Turret you have to move a certain distance with your mouse/stick for it to actually turn

steel agate
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Also, if you have a fatal plane crash in practice range, your game will crash to the desktop or main screen on console

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It's a new bug

coarse thunder
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Good thing I don't practice

steel agate
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All platforms are affected

midnight nimbus
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turret limit correction is done on a frame by frame basis

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if you move too fast on one frame, the turret limits you on the next

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so if you make a consistent movement that's too fast, it feels very jittery and laggy

formal valve
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You guys think Marita will drop tomorrow?

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A day early like mercury?

midnight nimbus
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will DICE fix how terribly BFV runs on many PCs tomorrow?

formal valve
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No

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Next update is late August

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Ahhhh

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I see

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I see what you did

coarse thunder
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Dang why is the best facepaint "daft"

formal valve
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I like Copper Flame

coarse thunder
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Ig because it's the most muted of tue facepaints

compact oxide
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The only good facepaint is like "phantom" or something where it looks like your mascara is running down and has crusted

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Because it's so damn funny on Ingrid

formal valve
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Reee female characters

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Jk

compact oxide
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Ingrid is bae tho

midnight nimbus
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mfw all the characters look the same bc the game is unplayable without disabling TAA

compact oxide
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Haven't played since the real perf losses so 🤷

strange dome
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Is the new map releasing on Tuesday? with the mini patch

formal valve
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Yeah I thin

wild oxide
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It basically has to, next week's first challenge is to play on the map if I remember correctly.

strange dome
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hope its better than Mercury. that map was low tier for me

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just above Fjell 652 for me.

compact oxide
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Imagine the challenge coming and going without the map released Yikes

formal valve
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Mercury is good

solid hinge
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Any information about the new grand ops?

formal valve
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No

solid hinge
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Mercury and Marita are going to be 1 grand op right?

formal valve
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Yes

strange dome
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braddock512 said something about the greek grand op on reddit

formal valve
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Marita will be the first map and Mercury the second

solid hinge
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I heard Airborne is not going to be in there....

strange dome
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"I'd love to see a Greek-focused Grand Op.The losers of the Op have to drink a bottle of Ouzo each."

solid hinge
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I love Airborne

formal valve
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I’d bet it’s gonna be Breakthrough on Day one, Frontline Day 2, and Day 3 is Airborne

strange dome
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moh airborne? 😦

solid hinge
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Day 3 airborne makes sense

formal valve
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Airborne would make sense on Mercury

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Maybe Airbone Conquest Assault?

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That would be cool

strange dome
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they needed to add more of the rolling hill countryside to mercury

formal valve
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The Germans would come in on airborne planes

prime pine
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Resistence isnt a bad face paint on actuality

strange dome
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the map size is just to small

solid hinge
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How about Day 1 conquest Day 2 breakthrough or Frontlines and Day 3 airborne

strange dome
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or atleast use the air strip

formal valve
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Imagine airborne conquest assault

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Where you come in on planes

prime pine
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How about breakthrough breakthrough breakthrough. There. Easy.

solid hinge
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Or

formal valve
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Include something about the parachute drop for mercury

strange dome
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how about tdm squad conquest and gun game?

prime pine
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Breakthrough is a very good game mode.

solid hinge
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Airborne and breakthrough only

prime pine
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Think marita is based towards the end

formal valve
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?

solid hinge
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How about making rush a permanent mode again?

strange dome
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NO!

midnight nimbus
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airborne would be much better if it were just changed from a static line jump to a free jump where you can HALO drop

solid hinge
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And adding 32v32 rush servers

formal valve
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Marita is at the beginning of the German invasion

strange dome
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when the private servers we get games modes 24/7

formal valve
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Mercury is the Airborne drop on Crete

solid hinge
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Or beach landings with Mercury

compact oxide
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Imagine adding 5 new gamemodes and no maps

strange dome
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I asked about 32v32 rush Musti

formal valve
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No beach landings

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Please no

strange dome
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I got a response by Parthwelsh

solid hinge
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@formal valve YES

midnight nimbus
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I don't even like gamemode bloat

formal valve
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NO

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AIRBORNE

solid hinge
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airborne or beach landings both are fine

compact oxide
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Should be only a few gamemodes

formal valve
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Airborne conquest assault

midnight nimbus
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I have always thought that the best FPS games are the ones which commit to and master a few modes

formal valve
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Imagine it

solid hinge
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@strange dome what did he say boss?

strange dome
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the spawning system might not work with 32v32

midnight nimbus
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beach landings and airborne are both turbocancer

compact oxide
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Really all they're doing is spreading the small playerbase between meh modes

strange dome
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its only supports 16 :x

solid hinge
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Lol

midnight nimbus
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I absolutely refuse to be part of the initial push in airborne or beach landings

strange dome
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"Not 100% sure on this one. I don't know if the spawn logic would behave itself but it's good for me to know that you're open to the idea of having it do that."

midnight nimbus
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so fun getting farmed when you're defenseless

solid hinge
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Wtf is Rush 32v32 on Arras then?

strange dome
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that the quote from PartWelsh

midnight nimbus
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I'll spawn in once my team actually has a hold on the ground

solid hinge
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@midnight nimbus good luck buddy

strange dome
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maybe limiting squads to 1 recon might help

solid hinge
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They have to throw smokes to get further

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@strange dome agreed

compact oxide
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Imo airborne should give you the choice of when to pull your chute, that's all they needed

midnight nimbus
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I just AFK until there's a good >2/3rds of my team finally established on the ground

formal valve
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No

solid hinge
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Less recons more medics

formal valve
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That would make no sense

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Static line was what was used in ww2

strange dome
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recons can use smokes?

midnight nimbus
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yeah HALO drop would make airborne tolerable

solid hinge
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@strange dome yeah but no one of them uses smoke

formal valve
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Your about 80 years too early for a halo drop

rocky verge
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If you before the plane leaves and make it not available to spawn on the Blue area of the map you can land behind the team and get easy kills

strange dome
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I only used knifes due to instant kills :c

rocky verge
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And with recon just spawn behind and cause madness

midnight nimbus
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idc if HALO drops weren't even a thing until the 60s

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they were experimented with in the 40s

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realistic enough for me

compact oxide
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@formal valve this is where I don't care about realism, I just want fun gameplay

formal valve
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Are you stupid?

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@midnight nimbus ?

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This is WW2 game btw

strange dome
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its based off WW2

formal valve
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Yeah they were experimented with, there’s a reason they didn’t do it

strange dome
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like wolfenstein XD

midnight nimbus
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realism > fun

formal valve
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It that area yes

solid hinge
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Flying out of a plane with a parachute is good enough for me buddy

midnight nimbus
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rendezook isn't physically possible at all

solid hinge
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No need for a halo jump

formal valve
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I can’t believe you just asked for a HALO drop in ww2

midnight nimbus
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and it's one of the most iconic things in BF

formal valve
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Lmao

compact oxide
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Unironically if they'd gone full crazy steampunk Wolfenstein for BFV I'd still be playing

midnight nimbus
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I'm fully aware it's not realistic

midnight nimbus
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but it's Hollywood believable and physically possible with the era's technology

strange dome
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i want to do that

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as the soviets

formal valve
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That’s the Russian btw

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Before paratroopers were first used in combat

solid hinge
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I want a gamemode that’s only fun for the attackers

formal valve
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It was much safer with the static line

strange dome
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just land in the tree tops

midnight nimbus
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@solid hinge Aerodrome Breakthrough

strange dome
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😮

formal valve
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The static line was used because at the altitude they dropped at, they wouldn’t be able to pull the chutes fast enough to slow their falling

midnight nimbus
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I mean airborne is pretty fun when you get to defend 🤷🏼‍♀️

solid hinge
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@midnight nimbus True true

strange dome
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breakthrough needs some of the fortifications build. it helps lot for defenders

solid hinge
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But it’s fun after you lost the first sector while being a defender

formal valve
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Having the parachute pulled when you jump from the plane was much safer

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You still might get hurt landing

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But you wouldn’t die

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Unless you landed in like a river or something lmao

midnight nimbus
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who cares about safety, this is BATTLEFIELD

strange dome
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Ballroom Blitz had a good first sector

formal valve
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Maybe just make the parachute descend time shorter

midnight nimbus
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you can fire an RPG with a teammate standing right behind you

strange dome
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that trench line

solid hinge
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NIJMEGEN BRIDGE GRAND OPS MAKE IT HAPPEN

formal valve
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Neither the Panzerfaust nor PIAT had back blast

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So there goes that argument

strange dome
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Carentan airborne plx

midnight nimbus
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I'm talking about an actual RPG

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in like BF3 or 4

solid hinge
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@strange dome lmao

midnight nimbus
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you can flip tanks back cover easily in BF

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like come on

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it's not a realistic game

formal valve
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No shit

solid hinge
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How about Berlin airborne?

compact oxide
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Realism should never have been a focus in BFV

midnight nimbus
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allowing for a HALO drop in WW2 is far from unacceptable when you're talking about BF

formal valve
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Can you please just let me cling to the small bit of realism in the setting the game has

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Please?

compact oxide
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Only for visuals

strange dome
solid hinge
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@strange dome I know 😂

midnight nimbus
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no, because that realism turns an entire gamemode into absolute garbage

formal valve
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How?

strange dome
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I loved the cod make of that map

formal valve
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You drop pretty fast

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Way too fast

strange dome
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was so good on s&d

midnight nimbus
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defenselessly and slowly floating to the ground while you're at the mercy of defenders

formal valve
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But i don’t complain about it

midnight nimbus
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so fun

solid hinge
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Yeah I didn’t give a damn about cod

formal valve
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You can use your gun....

solid hinge
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Modern warfare got me hyped

formal valve
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Switch weapons....

midnight nimbus
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I get to sit there on defense and delete people out of the air with a Bren

strange dome
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I love the first ever cod

solid hinge
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Have you seen the spawn?

midnight nimbus
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you're still moving pretty slowly with NO COVER

formal valve
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Then drop behind cover!

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Land away from the enemy!

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Like really?

midnight nimbus
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not to mention that tracking (and seeing) the defenders is much harder for a parachuting attacker than vice versa

formal valve
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?

midnight nimbus
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there literally is zero cover when you're in midair lol

formal valve
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You can land away from the quote easily

midnight nimbus
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you're plainly visible in the sky

formal valve
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Ok?

midnight nimbus
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ez to shoot with guns like the Bren or 1916

formal valve
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That’s the reality of being a Paratrooper dumbass

midnight nimbus
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yes, turns out reality doesn't always make for super fun vidya

formal valve
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Well too bad

solid hinge
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@solid hinge almost no one goes for the bomb

formal valve
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Go and play cod

midnight nimbus
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oh and once you drop, the enemy already knows where you are

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epic

limpid sentinel
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hi

solid hinge
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Hi

formal valve
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THATS LITERALLY WHAT PARADROPS ARE

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OH MY GOD

midnight nimbus
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Panzerstorm airborne is one of the biggest jokes of a game mode I've ever played

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epic ez K/D padding on defense

solid hinge
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It’s one of the best

formal valve
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dide you have some of the worst takes I’ve ever seen

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Like seriously

solid hinge
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K/D padding on defense? Lmaooo

midnight nimbus
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it's just absurdly in favor of the defenders

solid hinge
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What did he say was bad?

formal valve
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Exactly

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I’m all for less realistic gameplay elements in terms of combat

midnight nimbus
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> defending BFV airborne

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kek

formal valve
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But not changing how things actually worked

compact oxide
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Airbourne looks good sure

formal valve
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Taking a static line out of WW2 is just silly

compact oxide
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Problem is it goes into your stats which sucks balls

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And a lot of people care about that

formal valve
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Defending airborne because it accurately portrays paradrops

solid hinge
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Man

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My stats are fine and I love airborne

compact oxide
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Also just being mowed down also is not fun

midnight nimbus
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accurately portraying an epic unfun experience

solid hinge
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Don’t mind if i’m a attacker or defender

formal valve
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Then go play a cod game my guy

compact oxide
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It's a game

midnight nimbus
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I mean my stats are fine bc i love defending on airborne

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bruh i play BF because it's easier than CoD

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that's why i got into it in the first place

solid hinge
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Easier

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Lol

formal valve
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I love how all of your arguments are based on if your stats are good enough

icy sluice
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I left CoD because it's easier than BF.

formal valve
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They are

solid hinge
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@icy sluice THIS

midnight nimbus
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it's almost hard to drop something lower than a 5-6 K/D in airborne defense

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CoD on PC is unironically much harder than BF on PC

solid hinge
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😂😂😂

formal valve
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Lmaooooo

midnight nimbus
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BF is much slower paced and easier to handle

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which is why I like it

formal valve
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BFV is slower paced OMEGALUL

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Slightly slower than a cod game

midnight nimbus
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my KPM with a decent amount of CoD guns is double that of a lot of BFV guns

rich ember
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Oh right. I forgot you were the guy that tried arguing that tracers in BF4 could counter random bullet deviation caused by suppression.

formal valve
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No one cares about your kills per minute dude

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No one cares at all

midnight nimbus
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tracers don't counter it lol

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it just let you know it was happening

rich ember
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You tried arguing that tho

formal valve
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@rich ember really?

midnight nimbus
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you counter suppression with your left hand

rich ember
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“Just pay attention to where the tracers are going and adjust your aim”

midnight nimbus
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not your right

solid hinge
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Anyone else want popcorn?

rich ember
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“random bullet deviation isn’t random actually”

strange dome
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me plx @solid hinge

solid hinge
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Go get your own boss

formal valve
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My game just crashed when I went to repair a tank LMAO

strange dome
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😦

formal valve
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I guess he didn’t want me to help

solid hinge
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Just joking

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Sweet or salty?

formal valve
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“random bullet deviation isn’t random actually”

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BF1 wants to know your location

midnight nimbus
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literally just searched what I said two months ago

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you see tracers going everywhere

strange dome
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salty. sweet makes feel sick

midnight nimbus
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that's your sign to stop shooting

rich ember
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No you fucking don’t

solid hinge
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Yeah go get your own

formal valve
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His point is that your making silly arguments

solid hinge
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I like it sweet

strange dome
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lol

midnight nimbus
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suppression = controlled

rich ember
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You don’t see tracers in close range

formal valve
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^

solid hinge
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Or caramel or chocolate popcorn

midnight nimbus
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good thing BF4 suppression doesn't work in close range

formal valve
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LMAO

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YES IT DOES

rich ember
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Bull Fucking Shit

formal valve
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LMAO

rich ember
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Like I’m sorry what fucking game are you playing

formal valve
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I’m literally playing BF4 rn

rich ember
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Where suppression is determined by range

formal valve
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Getting suppressed on Operation locker

solid hinge
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Language please

formal valve
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How do you explain suppression on operation locker?

strange dome
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shotgun hitting nothing in dem tunnels 😦

formal valve
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“good thing BF4 suppression doesn't work in close range”

midnight nimbus
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BF had suppression dependent on range after BF3

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CQB suppression is literally only a thing in BF3

formal valve
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No it didn’t.....

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No it’s not dude

rich ember
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No it isn’t

formal valve
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I’m LITERALLY PLAYING BF4

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AS WE SPEAK

midnight nimbus
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I think you vastly overestimate how long it takes you to suppress as well

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with anything but an LMG

formal valve
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and am GETTING SUPPRESSED IN CQB

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WHAT DRUG ARE YOU ON MY GUY

midnight nimbus
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ARs deal 1% suppression per bullet and the bullet needs to be 1.5m from the head to deal suppression

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you need 30% suppression to even begin to have suppression effects

formal valve
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What does that have to do with range?

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At all?

rich ember
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where the fuck are you getting these figures from

midnight nimbus
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iirc BF4 minimum suppression range is roughly 30m

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files @rich ember

formal valve
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NO JT AINT

rich ember
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what files

formal valve
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LMAOOOOOOOOO

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30m

midnight nimbus
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bring your citations, not your feels

formal valve
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God I need to go destress

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Oh hey, a Silk Road 24/7 server

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Yes PLEASE

compact oxide
rich ember
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You're linking a bunch of files with no specifics

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what kinda fucking citation is that sir

midnight nimbus
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to suppress someone with an assault rifle by yourself, you quite literally need to magdump an entire magazine next to their head

shrewd grove
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Sounds like BFV "suppression"

formal valve
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“good thing BF4 suppression doesn't work in close range”

compact oxide
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Tbh kht's whole shtick is he does the stats

formal valve
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Where’s the fun in that lmao

icy sluice
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But does his stats say how big I am?

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I doubt it

formal valve
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@icy sluice hmmmm

midnight nimbus
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rather know something for sure than go by just muh feels

formal valve
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I’m not going by feels

icy sluice
formal valve
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I’m literally playing the game youre talking about rn

shrewd grove
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I just want suppression to be like BF1 again

formal valve
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I miss BF3s

compact oxide
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BF1 suppression was godawful

formal valve
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Where you make there eyes watery lmao

shrewd grove
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Mmm love me some sniper tears

solid hinge
compact oxide
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One of the things I'd change

icy sluice
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What is that picture...?

compact oxide
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More like tears of anyone not a support

coarse thunder
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It's strange that bf5 has absolute bullet dumpers but no "suppression"

formal valve
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Lmao that picture OMEGALUL

icy sluice
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As a PTFO Recon... it's stupid that the thing stopping my assault is someone who can't hit the broadside of a barn

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And I am using the Russian Trench, mind you.

shrewd grove
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I think that's fine

formal valve
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Or someone with a Sweetspot rifle who can’t aim for shit

midnight nimbus
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BF3 suppression was hype

rich ember
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"A projectile's suppression value also increases over range" Okay. Two things.

  1. You say 30m is the minimum suppression range. 30m is not that far in this game. Like, D flag in Lockers is probably more than 30m in that tunnel.
  2. You're assuming everyone is using AR's. This is not the case, sometimes people are running LMG's. Which your post states has a higher suppression damage per bullet.
midnight nimbus
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strong af

shrewd grove
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At least suppression worked

formal valve
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Oh my god

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Are me and @midnight nimbus actually agreeing on something?

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IMPOSSIBLE

compact oxide
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Settle down

formal valve
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K

midnight nimbus
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i mean it worked well for the game that it was

shrewd grove
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Getting angry over videogames in 2019

midnight nimbus
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BF3 LMGs were absolute suppression hoses

formal valve
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Lmao what am I doing with my life

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15 year old argues about stats on the internet

rich ember
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I'm still of the opinion that random bullet deviation caused by people NOT hitting you is an absolutely stupid thing to have in any FPS game.

icy sluice
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I've stopped playing with my brother because of how mad he gets over like 95% of his deaths

coarse thunder
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I only get mad when my transport can't accelerate up a hill

midnight nimbus
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but yeah, suppression is pretty prevalent in something like Lockers bc multiple people are shooting at you from various ranges

formal valve
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HACKER

solid hinge
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Did someone say they want bf1 suppression back?

midnight nimbus
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with different types of guns

solid hinge
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Cause I will smite them

midnight nimbus
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BF1 suppression is still weaker than BF3 or 4

icy sluice
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I understand if the person hits you, your accuracy gets worse... but if they've missed every single bullet... it doesn't make sense

midnight nimbus
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less spread effects, more recoil and sway effects

compact oxide
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BF1 suppression was a curse upon the land

rich ember
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@midnight nimbus yes. which is something you failed to mention, since you kept going on about the AR's.

formal valve
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BFV suppression is just visual lmao

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Stupid

rich ember
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and also failing to mention that 30 meters is not far in any game.

midnight nimbus
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yeah, suppression is pretty irrelevant in the a 1v1

icy sluice
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It's like.... Flinch in CoD which got taken out almost

midnight nimbus
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especially in peak Lockers sweat

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where everyone just runs ARs

warm atlas
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NGL, I was so happy to see suppression become only visible. But now I can nail snipers with bullets and shit and they will just snipe me as if they totally weren’t just getting shot.

compact oxide
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Flinching when hit is fine tbh

formal valve
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LSAT with a grip on lockers 😫

icy sluice
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I'd rather have Flinching instead of suppression

midnight nimbus
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30m is the majority of BF4 engagement ranges @rich ember

rich ember
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@warm atlas you weren't hitting 'em. that's the problem.

compact oxide
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Yes @icy sluice

formal valve
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@rich ember lmaooooo

compact oxide
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10/10 agree

midnight nimbus
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I have no problem with suppression mechanics that are done with intent

icy sluice
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Or suppression is based on health.

warm atlas
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Not with every bullet, sure. But some, definitely.

midnight nimbus
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shooting to intentionally suppress is fine

icy sluice
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Like, the accuracy modifiers only get added based on health

rich ember
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@midnight nimbus I would argue that a lot of engagements are beyond 30m

midnight nimbus
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point is to get the enemy to move instead of shoot back

formal valve
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That’s what I would do with MMGs if suppression was relevant in BFV

icy sluice
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Suppression does some stufff in V

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It's not a big stuff but it's... something.

warm atlas
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Yeah, makes your screen a little blurry. Crazy stuff

icy sluice
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It puts a red diamond over your head

midnight nimbus
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median engagement range is consistently under 30m

icy sluice
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I think only your squad can see that red diamond

midnight nimbus
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in BF4

coarse thunder
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Not even then. It gives a white indocator where the bullets are coming from

compact oxide
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Spot on suppress is a big thing imo

coarse thunder
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So you know who is suppressing you

midnight nimbus
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shit, median engagement range in BF4 is cleanly within hipfire range

compact oxide
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Should 3D spot

icy sluice
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Okay, that's what it does.
Suppressing kind of spots for your squad
Machine Gunner Suppression spots it for the whole team and also gives more suppression

compact oxide
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Ye

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Should be for all by default though

midnight nimbus
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BFV suppression is pretty useless though

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doesn't actually do anything to make the enemy move

icy sluice
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Thing is is that the squad suppression, you can see that across the entire map

formal valve
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Agreed @midnight nimbus

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It doesn’t even exist really

icy sluice
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Even through structures

compact oxide
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If it spotted you it'd be useful

formal valve
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Just a visual effect

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If it had use

midnight nimbus
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you can't see the visual effect on low settings

formal valve
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^

midnight nimbus
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not that the visual effect is a deterrent in the first place

formal valve
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You can literally just counter it

icy sluice
#

It also does something against health iirc

formal valve
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Exactly

midnight nimbus
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BFV suppression stops medbox healing

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but not the pouch heal

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so still pretty useless

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if suppression doesn't decrease accuracy, it's not very useful

icy sluice
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Doesn't it stop regeneration?

midnight nimbus
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only for medcrates

topaz plume
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tell me fellow gamers

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what is the most op gun?

midnight nimbus
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but you can just hit the pouch iirc

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if you don't decrease accuracy, suppression doesn't do its job of making people run away instead of fight

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too bad BF community cried too much about it

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couldn't comprehend using left hand instead of the right

formal valve
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Irl suppression has the exact opposite effect

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Makes people stay

coarse thunder
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Mainly the snipers

formal valve
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I find it kinda funny

topaz plume
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huh

midnight nimbus
#

I mean irl suppression does the same thing

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you don't want to shoot back

formal valve
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But instead of moving you stay still

midnight nimbus
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if you're successful at suppressing, your target stays still

formal valve
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Our of fear

midnight nimbus
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bc they have no way to get out

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but getting out is still the ultimate solution for both irl and BF suppression

formal valve
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Well

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Yeah I guess

compact oxide
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Imo suppression should cause everything but the accuracy reduction

topaz plume
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so im new to this game. The only time i played it was in the beta. What should i expect?

compact oxide
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@topaz plume very low perf

topaz plume
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?

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what do you mean?

compact oxide
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Low frames

midnight nimbus
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if suppression doesn't cause accuracy reduction, it's pointless

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that's the only way you'll get it to mean anything

coarse thunder
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Mainly a PC problem

compact oxide
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I mean if it slows all of your health regen to a crawl then 🤷

midnight nimbus
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would be fine in BF3 where there's no pouches

coarse thunder
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Darkens the screen too

compact oxide
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Even the pouches imo should be slowed 5x

midnight nimbus
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audiovisual effects are still pretty meaningless as well

strange dome
#

is the AT boy a problem on console ?

compact oxide
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Also yeah pouches are dumb anyway

formal valve
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Not really @strange dome

opaque pawn
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I’ve not had problems

midnight nimbus
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suppression needs to reduce the efficacy of shooting back if you want it to be a positioning tool

coarse thunder
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Pouches should heal in increments not in an immediate stream of hp

midnight nimbus
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remove pouches

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medbox only

opaque pawn
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Nah

coarse thunder
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Pouches are here to stay

midnight nimbus
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if you want to heal yourself, you have to make yourself available for teammate assistance

opaque pawn
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Nah

midnight nimbus
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helping yourself = helping others with medbox only

coarse thunder
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Plus I'm pretty sure the health boxes have a time limit

midnight nimbus
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was very hype

compact oxide
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I just loathe the idea of suppression in BF1 where you have camping M1917s in spawn suppressing half the map but doing f all else

midnight nimbus
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I mean BF1 suppression was pretty visually apparent bc of its recoil and sway effects

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but it's still weaker than BF3/4 suppression

rich ember
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i love seeing people but not being able to shoot back because lol game mechanics

midnight nimbus
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crazy to have a mechanic that makes you move instead of shoot for a change

rich ember
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and it's not like they're gonna forget where i am if i take cover

midnight nimbus
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reposition, then shoot back

rich ember
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and there's no reason for them to just not shoot where i'm going

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and flanking is rarely a possible strategy

midnight nimbus
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if you positioned yourself somewhere without easy egress, that's really your problem

rich ember
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Not my fucking fault if someone just decides to start shooting at me cause they see me trying to get somewhere else

formal valve
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In the words of Mad Jack Vhurchill: “instead, lets go over there and shoot them there instead”

rich ember
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what am i supposed to do then, smart guy?

midnight nimbus
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keep moving?

formal valve
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Flank

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Get to a better position

midnight nimbus
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and unless you have an LMG, you're really not going to be able to suppress people on your own very well

rich ember
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See, then i get shot.

midnight nimbus
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ARs pretty much require multiple users to put out meaningful suppression

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you need to put an entire mag within 1.5m of someone's face to even start suppression with a AR

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1.5m really isn't a very big radius

compact oxide
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Lmgs are the problem with suppression, especially the pin down spec in BF1

midnight nimbus
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I mean that's just LMGs being good at what they're meant to do

coarse thunder
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Now we have mmgs

compact oxide
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And that's what I'm saying, they shouldn't just be a supression hose that screws over the aim of everyone else

midnight nimbus
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I mean you can still kill people with them lol

compact oxide
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That's what I do

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I play agressive with whatever personally

midnight nimbus
#

with suppression head radius, it's normally easier to kill with an LMG than intentionally suppress anyways

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if you're accurate enough to suppress in most scenarios, you're accurate enough to just outright kill the enemy

compact oxide
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I assume that's the BF3/4 way not BF1?

midnight nimbus
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that's BF4/1

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BF1 suppression is weaker than 4's

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in terms of pure effects on accuracy and how hard it is to suppress someone (in most scenarios)

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iirc if you're really trying to intentionally suppress with a M1917 or something, it actually is very effective

vapid crater
valid spade
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Bf3 and bf4 are dying :(

solid hinge
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So like bfv?

compact oxide
#

Na, bfv is already dead WeSmart

solid hinge
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Awww yea i forgot

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My grandpa is playing it rn

valid spade
#

Guys is there a way to see all the update release notes for battlefield 4 ?

coarse thunder
#

Won breakthrough with 0 tickets attacking panzerstorm whee

solid hinge
#

Oof today I was reminded that there are much worse games than BFV

valid spade
#

Like what

solid hinge
#

Destiny 2

valid spade
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Lol

coarse thunder
#

Time to back out of this server

solid hinge
#

I heard that bf3 is getting a remaster, Is this true?

compact oxide
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@solid hinge destiny 2 is better tho

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Like, it's actually enjoyable

solid hinge
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It’s really not. D1 was far better

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D2 was a slap to the face

compact oxide
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Ain't got a console 🤷

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So D2 is my first one

solid hinge
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Good times

compact oxide
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It's the DLC Strat they went with that really stopped me playing more

solid hinge
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Contrary to popular belief, Bungie is no better than Activision. Bungie’s gunning for your wallet and they surely cut a lot of corners in destiny 2 content to resell it as dlcs

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It’s sad cuz d1 was truly enjoyable for the most part

midnight nimbus
#

AAA gaming payment model isn't cutting it anymore

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games are too cheap nowadays at $60

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i think the entire industry is in a phase of figuring out new payment models that work for AAA games

shut cipher
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lol a game costs $92 after tax in canada that is far from cheap @midnight nimbus

midnight nimbus
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that's pretty cheap for the value of a AAA game

shut cipher
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lmfao

midnight nimbus
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BF2 was $110(?) with premium in 2005

shut cipher
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im not even going to bother feelscringeman

midnight nimbus
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inflation adjusted, that's $144.27 today

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and we're asking for a $60 game that's vastly more complex and has much more content

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lmao

solid hinge
#

FPS games in general are going downhill

midnight nimbus
#

and modern games are considerably harder to make as well

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why would a prospective game designer want to work on a AAA game, when mobile games are considerably easier and cheaper to make, while having better profit margins?

upper vault
coarse thunder
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Never buy something full price

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It's not that hard to understand

short pecan
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soo uhh is the tank skin from the last tiger still bugged?

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i didnt receive it even though i got all the letters and did the challenges

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already restarted the game

strange dome
#

Did they really put nades on they legs? one trip or leap or crawl might pop it?

scarlet stag
#

When is the pacific theatre coming?

strange dome
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CHRISTMAS TIME*

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  • = no date confirmed
scarlet stag
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I hope they add dedicated battles that would be so cool. Like battle of coral seamidway with only planes and Battle of Al alamein with only tanks

formal valve
#

El Alamein wasn’t a tank battle......

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El Alamein would literally make no sense as a tank only map

shrewd grove
#

!!roadmap

formal valve
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Pacific is most likely coming in the end of September

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A week after 4 ends

solid hinge
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I think it will probably be delayed

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given all the extra studio time these bugs need when the devs get back from holidays

formal valve
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I doubt it

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Maybe tho I don’t know

compact oxide
#

Either it'll be delayed and buggy or on time and buggier

formal valve
#

Maybe give them a month to fix the game and release Underground, followed by chapter 5 in late October

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I kinda doubt that happening tho

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Cuz that would be 4 maps in October alone

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Underground+3 pacific maps

solid hinge
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remember at EA play they had no eta for the pacific and could only show concept art of one map, everything was literally still on the drawing board

formal valve
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They had weapons rendering too but that’s about it

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I think they’ve started work on the maps a while ago tho

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Probably showed concept art only to build hype and not spoil gameplay

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And yes, I do think all 3 pacific maps will be released together

compact oxide
#

Oh ye of so much faith tbh

formal valve
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As I don’t seem them launching their biggest chapter yet with 14+ new vehicles, 2 new factions, and all this new stuff with only one of the maps

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I’m just saying

rich ember
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i don't see them launching what they advertised.

formal valve
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Wouldn’t really make sense

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I do

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A lot of it’s in the files

compact oxide
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You'll have to unlock the ability to play the maps through TOW maybe? Kappa

formal valve
rich ember
#

you joke but i wouldn't put it past 'em

marble echo
#

remember battlefield 2

rich ember
#

no

formal valve
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Let me think of all the weapons known so far

marble echo
#

i miss those days

compact oxide
#

Remember when we thought we'd get the chauchat not long after release?

formal valve
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Chauchat was probably canned from the files along with all those other leftover BF1 weapons in the chapter 4 update

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Tbh

solid hinge
#

call me a monday morning cynic but from a marketing pov releasing one map at a time generates a spike of interest/activity in BF V for that week. That said its a bigger addition to the game and quite possibly they will make an exception and release 3 maps at once sometime early december .. thats just my opinion

marble echo
#

when will games get back to the BF2 style

rich ember
#

people are gonna flip shit when the M1 Garand comes out

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i tell ya

formal valve
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All the weapons we know of so far:
Assault: M2 Carbine
Medic: Type 99, M3, possible the M1A1
Support: BAR M1918A2, M1919A6, Ithaca Model 37
Scout: M1 Garand, Enfield 1917

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Have I missed any

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Oh wait

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Arisaka Rifle

compact oxide
#

I forsee the M1 being a huge disappointment

rich ember
#

Some revolver i can't remember the name of

solid hinge
#

the frustrating part is that every time someone makes a crusade about an ingame issue on reddit, it delays the release of new content

rich ember
#

S&W Model 36?

formal valve
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The Revolver is the SW27

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I think

rich ember
#

isn't the Frommer Stop Auto in the files?

formal valve
#

I predict the new factions will launch with 4 new weapons already unlocked, just like the starter weapons for the Base game factions

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@rich ember not anymore

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Only machine pistol left is the Astra Model 900

rich ember
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@solid hinge i mean people have to make a crusade or it'll never get fixed

formal valve
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After the Chapter 4 update literally every other machine pistol was wiped from the data browser

strange dome
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m1 gonna be a sniper rifle with slower rate of fire than all auto rifles.

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its going to be truly awful

marble echo
#

wait

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m1 garand not out?

rich ember
#

nope

marble echo
#

wtf

formal valve
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So I predict that for when the factions launch the 4 weapons we will get will be
Assault: M2 Carbine (assault rifle)
Medic: Type 100 (SMG)
Support: Bar M1918A2 (LMG)
Recon: Type 99 Arisaka (BAR)

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I predict the other weapons we know of will be ToW weapons

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The Garand, the M1919, Ithaca, Type 99, m3 Grease Gun, the Enfield 1917 and maybe the M1903

#

Hey that’s 7 weapons

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And the roadmap says at least 7 before 2020

compact oxide
#

Garand is microtransaction only

formal valve
#

M1 Garand would be a awesome Recon SLR

#

2 shot kill 😫

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I just want the recon to get some love

#

Besides AT rifles

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And reused BF1 weapons

prime pine
#

Assault semi auto

formal valve
#

No

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Reee

prime pine
#

3HKO - 2HKO Headshot bodyshot

formal valve
#

Give assault the Type 5

#

Literally a Garand with 2 more rounds

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And it’s Japanese

prime pine
#

Really we may as well sit who it ends up with

formal valve
#

Im hoping Recon

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I will never touch another gun on recon if it’s added to recon

prime pine
#

Would be nice if the garand was all kit. Then everyone would shut the fuck up.

formal valve
#

Yeah I guess

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If only we had all kit weapons 😫

prime pine
#

It was an all kit in bad co. 2

#

Miss all kit weapons

formal valve
#

Moment of silence

prime pine
#

Shump shump shump

rich ember
#

I'm kinda sad that the G3 was just gone after BC2

prime pine
#

Its fire rate reeks of assault. I dont mean to kill your hopes and im just speculating

formal valve
#

The G3?

rich ember
#

yes

prime pine
#

G3a3?

rich ember
#

the G3

formal valve
#

It was in BF3 I’m pretty sure

rich ember
#

It was?

formal valve
#

The G3A3

prime pine
#

Yeah i believe so

formal valve
#

It was a co op unlock I think

rich ember
#

oh right that's why i never got it

formal valve
#

You could just buy it for like 5 bucks lmao

#

With the other guns

prime pine
#

It was ultra spicy

rich ember
#

How about no

formal valve
rich ember
#

honestly i don't know why DICE loved putting weapon unlocks behind modes that weren't multiplayer.

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I had to sit through the ending to the BF4 campaign twice for weapon unlocks. I'm missing one, but my game crashed while i was trying to do that, so fuck it, i don't care.

#

I hated BF4's campaign anyway.

prime pine
#

Roberto. I know its just speculation. But if the fire rate for the garand is proportionate to its trailer in game. Then its got to be for assault (cause no slr would fire that fast for recon) Who knows. It might be for the recon.

formal valve
#

So what do you guys think of the two maps coming this August

prime pine
#

Uh

rich ember
#

i don't care, i don't own the game.

prime pine
#

They're not for conquest

formal valve
#

Think the 5v5 is still coming?

prime pine
#

So

formal valve
#

Or scrapped

#

We don’t know that honestly

prime pine
#

They're probably going to delay it

formal valve
#

They could make them into conquest

#

We don’t know yet

prime pine
#

Yeah squad conq and potentially rush

formal valve
#

Al Sundan pls 😫

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Dice pls

prime pine
#

Not even excited for al sundan

#

Sadly

formal valve
#

Imagine they surprise us tomorrow with Marita a day early and Al Sundan on conquest

#

I am

prime pine
#

Fucking waiting for tuesday tomorrow is a bullshit wait just gimme ilse already DIIIIIIIICE

formal valve
#

Probably gonna be my favorite map from the chapter

#

Idk if I’m gonna buy here

prime pine
#

Uh. The last level in the nordlys campaign

formal valve
#

Tho her intro was really cool

prime pine
#

That would be nice for conq and breakthrough

formal valve
#

And I like her torso and legs

prime pine
#

She seems really coo

formal valve
#

That would be a cool map

prime pine
#

There is a unique skin for the gewehr 43 there

formal valve
#

Yeah I saw

prime pine
#

Seems like white tiger

formal valve
#

Looks like it

#

I saw it on the Kar in the first mission as well

prime pine
#

Its actually a good skin

#

Ohhhh

#

I havent seen it on the karabiner

formal valve
#

It was in a tower near the bridge I think

prime pine
#

Ahhhh

formal valve
#

Honestly I could see that first part of the campaign be apart of MP

#

From Nordlys

prime pine
#

I was considering that

#

But i dont know. The bridge would be a major chokepoint

formal valve
#

The Allies would spawn behind the bridge and it would be the gimme flag

#

Imo

prime pine
#

Who knows.

formal valve
#

And the Germans would spawn at the heavy water facility

#

It could work

#

Medium-large map

#

Not really any room for tanks

#

So maybe transport vehicles like Marita

#

Maybe a plane or two

prime pine
#

Thinking of it

#

I see parts of the last level of tiralleur in marita

formal valve
#

Eh the trees might be reused assets

#

I think most of it is new

prime pine
#

Nah just the general feeling

formal valve
#

Yeah

#

Marita is very weird in how dice has described it tho

#

Let me explain

prime pine
#

Its in the last stages of the invasion

formal valve
#

So when it was first announced, it was said to take place in October 1940, which was when Italy invaded Greece for the first time

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@prime pine actually, it’s the beginnng

prime pine
#

Oh right

formal valve
#

It’s on the border with Albania

#

So let me keep explain

#

So the map looks like it’s in the fall

prime pine
#

I understand

formal valve
#

Sounds reasonable considering Dice said October

#

BUT

#

and there’s a big juicy but

#

The name Marita refers to the code name of the joint German and Italian invasion of Greece

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Which began in April 1941

#

Soooooooooooo

#

Wat

prime pine
#

Dice tries to be authentic and they fucking fail on that

#

Its no surprise

formal valve
#

Map looks fun regardless

#

Just a funny little thing

compact oxide
#

@prime pine have I said I love your pfp yet?

formal valve
#

Maybe next time DIcE

#

Me and the boys pulling a invasion of France on the Greek Metaxas line and invading Greece

#

Just go around lmao

prime pine
#

@compact oxide Not yet! But now you have!

strange dome
#

hey dice team how about you release that map early? scatch

echo glen
#

Releases map early breaks the game WeSmart

formal valve
#

I’m gonna make a reddit shitpost about the confusing time period of Marita

solid hinge
#

before they actually release it?

formal valve
#

?

#

Did you not just read my explanation of why Marita is confusing me?

strange dome
#

its weird we got more footage of al-sudan then Marita atm. obv not including shit from the shit modes that are tdm and that other one.

solid hinge
#

reminds me of last friday, netflix dropped a new sci fi series and it had a 10% audience review a few minutes later

formal valve
#

No not shitpostong on the map

compact oxide
#

Which one? The new Stargate?

formal valve
#

I mean he time period it’s supposed to be in

#

And how it makes no sense

solid hinge
#

ie they had not possibly watched it, just downvoted it without looking

formal valve
#

It’s like a plot hole

compact oxide
#

Lol

rich ember
#

I'm still annoyed at Netflix because they removed V/H/S and V/H/S 2, and Heat.

formal valve
#

@solid hinge youre twisting my words

#

That’s not what I was saying

#

Scroll up and read why Marita is confusing

solid hinge
#

no its the one staring starbuck from battlestar galactica

#

I read what you said

compact oxide
#

@rich ember not Netflix's fault most of the time, the companies that own the works want their own separate streaming services mikeisdone

formal valve
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Ok

solid hinge
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lets see what is on the actual map first before we start complaining

rich ember
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I'm still annoyed about it.

formal valve
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Map looks awesome

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I said I was just gonna make a shitpost about the time setting dice said

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And see how many people on reddit think I’m wrong

rich ember
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like the one time i decide i'm gonna watch Heat, it's been removed from Netflix.

compact oxide
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I'm giving maritia a 1/10 not enough guns

formal valve
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Ouch

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Not enough Greece

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0.5 out of 10

rich ember
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0/10 not enough time travelling.

compact oxide
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Technically I'm a quarter Greek so I should care or something 🤷

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But na screw that

formal valve
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I like the Greece setting

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Only other game I know that has a map set in Greece in ww2 is that mod for Bf2

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Forgotten Hope 2

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And it’s Operation Mercury

solid hinge
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its amusing when people seek validation for their nationality in a damn video game

formal valve
rich ember
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ok

formal valve
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Wait I’m a quarter Italian...

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This is kinda awkward

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starts humming Invade greece

strange dome
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they failed at that lol

solid hinge
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same as that show pine gap on netflix, the "australia is different and cool" segments were so cringe

formal valve
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Yeah twice

rich ember
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i'm guessing you're from australia.

solid hinge
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nope

formal valve
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When you fail so bad they push you back into Albania and even farther

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Good job Italy

rich ember
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"You wanna help us reclaim the holy land? Come on, i know you guys wanna take back the holy land!"
"I do actually want to do that. Let's do a crusade."

formal valve
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“You wanna help us reclaim the Roman Empire Germany? Come on I know you guys want to get back the Holy Roman Empire!” -Mussolini

compact oxide
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But Australia is different and cool, we have Bin Chickens!

formal valve
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What

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Wha

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Wat

compact oxide
formal valve
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It’s beautiful

strange dome
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Is like a bucket of fried chicken? but in a bin?

compact oxide
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It's an Ibis

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Technically

solid hinge
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oh yeah we have those as well

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annoying af

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we call them ah-dee-dahs

strange dome
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Can you eat them?

formal valve
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Hold the fuck on

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Maritas Console name is MP_Kalamas.....

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What the FUCK dice

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The Battle of Elaia-Kalamas was a battle that took place in early November 1940....

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But that’s impossible

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The maps name is Marita

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What the fuck even is this game anymore

compact oxide
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Why are you getting upset with the code placeholder name

formal valve
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Becuz it makes literally no sense

compact oxide
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Maybe they started making a map on that then changed it

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It doesn't have to make sense

formal valve
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So your telling me

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It doesn’t matter?

compact oxide
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Yes

formal valve
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Elaia-Kalamas would require Italy and Greece as factions

compact oxide
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So you tellin me, we some kinda suicide sqwaad?

formal valve
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I hate you

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Jk

compact oxide
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Oof, my feelings are hurt beyond repair

formal valve
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Sawwy

upper vault
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What if we do get Italy and Greece as a faction?

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I’d rather get the Eastern front first tho.

storm marlin
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Creeper

compact oxide
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Aww man...

storm marlin
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So we back in the mine

compact oxide
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I swear that song is making a comeback

storm marlin
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You ruined the fun ):

rich ember
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DISCOOORD

coarse thunder
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Yeah man

solid hinge
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I‘m so fucking sick of carrying my god damn team in squad cq

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Literally half doesn’t fucking play and the rest are mentally incapacitated

coarse thunder
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Just

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Don't play squad conquest

solid hinge
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True

stoic breach
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Its better than regular conquest

solid hinge
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But I’d rather play squad conquest where I’m on my own 3rd team and i can just kill everyone at that point

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Friendly fire DICEPls DICEPls DICEPls DICEPls DICEPls DICEPls DICEPls

stoic breach
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mp_teammates_are_enemies 1

coarse thunder
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Had 2 good rounds of conquest that were decently close the entire time

solid hinge
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Normal cq or squad

coarse thunder
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Normal

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Haven't played squad conquest since we were forced to to get the ZK in chapter 1

solid hinge
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It’s only nice cuz it’s short games

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I just realized they removed Domination

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Thank god

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Pls remove TDM now

stoic breach
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I would rather play TDM than conquest

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In BFV

bleak cargo
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tdm ftw

prime pine
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Conquest is awesome

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But breakthrough is even better

ornate pebble
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there a ton of hackers in BF1

idle breach
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I wan Irn Bru

ornate pebble
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