#battlefield-legacy-titles

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solid hinge
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And like 1% of the playerbase even knows that

midnight nimbus
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the flare hitbox is bigger than the actual flare

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lol

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just like grenades

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grenades have beach ball hitboxes

solid hinge
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So how come im aiming straight at the thing and it shoots through the light

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Explain that one chief

compact oxide
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If you took the sweet spot out and just made it do like 90 damage at range I'd be very happy

solid hinge
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It drifts and bullets have travel time

midnight nimbus
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šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø gitgud šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

solid hinge
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If you used anything other than iron sights on bolts in bf1 you were doing it wrong

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Yeah ofc I adjust for that

midnight nimbus
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nah scopes in BF1 were based

compact oxide
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Ross infantry in bf1 WearyOk

midnight nimbus
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the blur let you know if you were in sweet spot range or not

solid hinge
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So either its a small hitbox or it has major hitreg issues

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But iron sights were fucking phenomenal

fathom crown
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on reddit apparently someone found a silenced suomi on the campaign

solid hinge
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I didn’t know I could spell that word

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Wtf

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I have trouble hitting it when I'm not using something with a scope

fathom crown
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but silenced weapons are useless in bfv

midnight nimbus
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I'll take the additional +100ms ADS time in exchange for a way better sight picture

fathom crown
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cause if u shoot

solid hinge
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Well tbf I only run irons

fathom crown
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u dont show up on the minimap

solid hinge
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there ya go

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Sights are for virgins

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hard to hit small targets when you cant see them eh

compact oxide
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I just prefer irons unless it's the Farquhar hill optical

solid hinge
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Seems like for u its hard to hit targets even when theyre man sized

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And laying on the ground

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2m infront

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Oof

stoic breach
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If I wanted to humiliate someone in BF1 I would use M1917 Enfield with rangefinder so I could headshot them

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Other than that, scopes good

compact oxide
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My fav humiliation tool was the 1903 experimental

solid hinge
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I used the m95 infantry

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Fucking ezpz kills

stoic breach
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Thats a good tool in general though

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The M1903 Exp.

compact oxide
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Before they added the swapping to bolt

stoic breach
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M95 infantry is also good

solid hinge
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kolirbri is best humiliation

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My fav humiliation took was the melee

compact oxide
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Nail knife WearyOk

solid hinge
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Imagine going for revenge kills

stoic breach
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Yeah I played a round on Amiens and got like 4 kolibri kills in a match cause people kept bipodding

solid hinge
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LOL

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Nothing beats charging across a battlefield directly at some asshole just to melee him

stoic breach
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Yeah thats how I apparently unlocked the broken bottle without realising it

solid hinge
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Got 10 melee kills with the kurki on narvik today šŸ˜‚

stoic breach
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Game didnt even tell me I had the broken bottle

solid hinge
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Anyway I think what we can gather from this is that dice needs to get their lazy ass out there and start doing needed balance changes

stoic breach
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I only found out a few days ago that I had it

compact oxide
solid hinge
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I dont even give a shit if they make all snipers ohk at all range with a bodyshot as long as shit starts changing

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wow

compact oxide
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I freaking love the nail knife

small sinew
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i can't deal with people who fuckin snipe with tanks... like cmon man no one cares about your shity kill streaks with tanks

solid hinge
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What else would they do tho

small sinew
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one thing that pisses me of the most about this game

stoic breach
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No one cares, but it is useful

solid hinge
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Thats literally the only playstyle tanks have

stoic breach
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Thats cause tanks are better at range and most drivers are too scared of assaults

compact oxide
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Just remove tanks tbh

solid hinge
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Aint even need to be too scared

compact oxide
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Oh wait, there's no inf only maps in BFV

small sinew
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sniping with tanks is so boring and usless iv seen much better performance when people with tanks are rushing a point with some infantry

solid hinge
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A couple of times leaving spawn will do the trick

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Yeah gl pushing with a tank even with infantry most of the time

stoic breach
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Devastation would've been good infantry only

solid hinge
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Unless youre really good at what youre doing dont expect to leave the area without dying

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if you arent supported as a tank you get mauled

stoic breach
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More forced teamplay

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Alot of supports dont even know they have repair tools apparently

compact oxide
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It's almost like forced teamplay doesn't work

solid hinge
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It’s infantry only in breakthrough which is what you should be playing

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ive repaired tanks like 4 times and im in the top 0.5% for repairs

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people aren't interested

compact oxide
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I used to think the BFV changes were good until we played

solid hinge
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I bet most peoole dont even know you can repair tanks

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Reckon if they let every class do it it would work

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Iā€˜m still happy with bfv, most of my issues revolve around the mental capacity of my teammates

midnight nimbus
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honestly I've had a pretty good amount of main cannon headshots with the Valentine

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really crispy reticle

solid hinge
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My main issue with bf5 is shit netcode and hitscan rn

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tfw tank cannon headshots dont disable revives

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Shooting ppl in the chest and them not taking dmg gets old rly quick

stoic breach
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Tank machine gun cannons do

solid hinge
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Same with getting killed in less than a ms around a corner or just straight up through walls

compact oxide
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@solid hinge hence why BF1 is still my go to; you can be the one man army

solid hinge
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Parking a tank on top of a person disables revives

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Smart.

stoic breach
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Yeah the fact that the game basically isnt synced between clients is kinda alarming, like how far out of cover did you have to be on someone else's screen to get killed?

compact oxide
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Camping the body and killing would be medics cancels revives

stoic breach
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How many kills through walls must you have gotten on someone else's screen

solid hinge
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Look at this shit

formal valve
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You can kill people through walls

solid hinge
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tfw you die behind cover and your revivable body is literally over ten metres away from the edge of the wall

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Every fucking game

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That’s true, but you can pull some great shit off in bfv it’s just a lot harder @solid hinge

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For instance, massacring 6 ppl with a soumi

stoic breach
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@solid hinge I've never had that happen to me

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That is even worse than I thought

topaz dome
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what if the medic smokes and then you start shooting to try and kill the medic but the medic waited for you to empty your magazine

solid hinge
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that happens to me every single game

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how have you avoided it toast

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Happens every game on almost every death

formal valve
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You guys know you can shoot through walls in the game, right?

topaz dome
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yes

stoic breach
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You cant wallbang solid brick

solid hinge
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Only certain walls with certain weapons

formal valve
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With an MMGs you can penetrate almost every soft cover

solid hinge
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no p08 is shooting through brick walls

formal valve
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Even sandbags

stoic breach
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I dont know how I've avoided it tbh

solid hinge
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My bullets actually curve around the walls WeSmart

stoic breach
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I've never taken shots through walls like that

midnight nimbus
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honestly you should just be able to shoot a downed enemy more to make them unrevivable

solid hinge
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tfw can't bounce throwing knives around corners

stoic breach
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Thats massive Desync

topaz dome
solid hinge
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Nah no one will revive them anyways what’s the point?

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This as well

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Happens every game in some form or another

midnight nimbus
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I don't see the issue with making revives more rare

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if you're dead, just stay dead

formal valve
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Takes away even more team play elements

solid hinge
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Because they are already rare enough lol

formal valve
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Furthermore Turning this franchise into something it’s not

solid hinge
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Takes more brain cells than the average player has

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If you can shoot downed people to cancel revives it'll make limited ammo weapons even pookie

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my poor model 8

midnight nimbus
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try uh not dying in the first place

solid hinge
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Could add in a finisher move that takes the same time as the revive to finish a person off

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Thatd be interesting

midnight nimbus
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100hp downed people

solid hinge
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Get like 25p for it

formal valve
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@midnight nimbus this game is about teamplay btw

topaz dome
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there is a finisher, it's called a melee kill

stoic breach
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That is some serious hitreg what the hell

midnight nimbus
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yes, teamplay is still relevant

topaz dome
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go for melee kills and they can get revived

midnight nimbus
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gotta save your teammates from not getting executed

formal valve
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that’s stupid lmao

solid hinge
midnight nimbus
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almost like revives are really just a tiny aspect of what can make a game a teamwork based game

formal valve
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It’s not a tiny asspect

solid hinge
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The game is pretty fine how it is now I don’t see the need to change the revive system

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This was on the same geezer before that clip but I had just put it on me hipfiring him

formal valve
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It’s the basis of a whole class

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Reviving is literally the core pillar of one of the games classes

midnight nimbus
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yeah, and they can still heal

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and self heal

formal valve
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I swear to god, why do people want to make this franchise something it’s not

solid hinge
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^

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Having alot of that these days

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People want vehicles removed and small maps

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Like bruh this is battlefield

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Keep things how they are with the revives, there’s literally no problem

formal valve
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I’m not saying you idea is relatively bad @midnight nimbus

midnight nimbus
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I don't care for revive systems one way or another

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BF3 and 1 did them well imo

formal valve
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But that’s a core part of the game dude.

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BF3 is superior to all with revive

solid hinge
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Whats wrong with bf4

formal valve
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Don’t have to charge up

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Don’t have to wait after doing it like BF1

midnight nimbus
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I like how BF3 left the revived player at low hp until they stood up

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so you can still quickly eliminate them and the medic

solid hinge
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I liked the bf4 idea tbh

midnight nimbus
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BF1 cooldown is good

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fuck revive trains

solid hinge
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I like bfv the most cuz you gotta be cautious about when you can safely revive

icy sluice
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Hey guys

solid hinge
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Imo they could speed up the animation for rez in bf5 a bit tho

midnight nimbus
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BF4 charge up is really annoying when people revive you at low hp

fathom crown
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lol i remember the good ol days getting flanks on operation metro

midnight nimbus
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especially in bad spots

formal valve
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Sooo we want to make medic useless

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Gotcha

fathom crown
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i would kill 5 people and they would get revived then i would get 5 more kills

midnight nimbus
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BF3 revive with slower cooldown would be fine

fathom crown
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lmao

solid hinge
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Thats kinda the point of it though

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Dont have an enemy just pop up from the dead full health full mags weapons drawn

midnight nimbus
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yeah, that's why BF3 did it perfectly

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when you come back from the dead, you still have low hp when you're on the ground

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you get back to 100 once you stand up

fathom crown
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tbh getting revived should not give you your entire health back

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bf3 did it nicely

solid hinge
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Its been such a long time since ive played 3 bug wasnt 3 just revive endlessly at full health

formal valve
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You best believe I protect people I just revived until they get up

midnight nimbus
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BF3 revive would be perfect if it weren't for the absolute lack of cooldown

solid hinge
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Maybe it should have you start at 20 hp and regaining as if you applied the bandage, unless you get shot

midnight nimbus
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revive train is absolute cancer

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^that's basically what BF3 revive is

solid hinge
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Revive train is life dude

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Literally

formal valve
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I always protect newly revived players in BF3 and 4

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To give them a chance to get out of combat and heal

midnight nimbus
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revive train is the most ridiculous turbocancer to play against

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when you consider how powerful revives are

formal valve
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I will damn straight sacrifice myself before I let a fresh revived guy get killed again

solid hinge
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Players I revive are purely points for me, I don’t give a shit if they get shot in the face directly after I revive them 😁

formal valve
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Yeah lmao

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I just like being a good guy

midnight nimbus
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BF1 revive bait was fun

solid hinge
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Most do that on their own anyways

midnight nimbus
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if someone is chasing you, run past a friendly body

formal valve
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See that’s how you not play medic. Revive bait is cancer

midnight nimbus
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enemy kills recently revived teammate, you get an ez kill

formal valve
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It’s a dick move

stoic breach
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Generally I try to revive if I need reinforcements or an extra body to help cap a point

solid hinge
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Like I’ll revive you but I can’t help you make intelligent decisions

stoic breach
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Idc if they get shot but its less bullets towards me

midnight nimbus
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and no extra loss in team tickets

formal valve
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Still a dick move

midnight nimbus
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implying that i care about blueberries

solid hinge
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Only if you know they’ll get shot

formal valve
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You don’t seem to like playing as a team much

midnight nimbus
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i like playing with my friends 😃

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who I can rely on

stoic breach
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I'm only truly concerned about reviving friends I play with

solid hinge
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If they’ll get shot then you’ll prob get shot while reviving = not worth

midnight nimbus
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blueberries are bait who perform the jobs i don't want to do myself

formal valve
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I lend a helping hand no matter who they are

solid hinge
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Gotta know when to call it

stoic breach
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The revive system is vaguely more risk/reward if you're playing with friends cause you get someone back you can communicate with

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But the BFV medic revive system is still dumb

midnight nimbus
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yeah, I'm not gonna walk into a bad revive

formal valve
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I help blueberries and squadmates alike anyway I can, whether it be air support or repairing, reviving or sniper support. I try my best to help everyone when they need it

midnight nimbus
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a big risk with questionable/low reward

fathom crown
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yea thats why a lot of medics dont really play their class well

solid hinge
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Or if ppl use the spotting system to point out enemies it can be more effective

fathom crown
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bfv revive system

solid hinge
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But most can’t

formal valve
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I guess my point is I try to be a hero OMEGALUL

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Lmao

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I can’t believe I just said that

stoic breach
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Yeah BF1 reviving blueberries was alright, its kinda low risk/low reward

solid hinge
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Heroes are overrated

stoic breach
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But BFV its high risk/low reward

midnight nimbus
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yeah, if reviving is risky, I'm only going to revive if i know what the reward will be

formal valve
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I don’t care about reward

midnight nimbus
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and i know that my friends will reliably give me help

stoic breach
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Yeah

formal valve
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If I can save a player, that’s a good enough reward for me

thorn wagon
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^

stoic breach
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I like to think I can be altruistic but realistically in a gunfight you need to cut as much crap as you can

solid hinge
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It wouldn’t be low reward if teammates knew how to play the game

midnight nimbus
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if I'm playing solo in BF4, I just run health + grenade launcher

stoic breach
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It would be pretty high reward if reviving recons dropped a flare or some shit but eh

midnight nimbus
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or double health for extra fast regen

formal valve
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Another way I like to help teammates is playing Recon

stoic breach
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Double health would be alright, I should try that

midnight nimbus
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yeah, if you throw a medpack at yourself and stand on a medbox, you regen really fast

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so I usually pick between turbo regen or regen + grenade launcher

stoic breach
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Yeah I pretty much never use assault if I play solo cause I want to have a stinger on me most of the time

midnight nimbus
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i don't play too many vehicle heavy maps in BF4 nowadays

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they're all instant vehicle respawn

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which is too much turbocancer to handle

stoic breach
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Wow

formal valve
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I mostly play somewhat passively, meaning that if I can avoid a risky conflict I will. I usually try and spot enemies and vehicles, while using a spawn beacon near an enemy objective. I also use my rifle to lend a helping hand to friendlies at range. I mostly rely on my melee weapon and some grenades to take out enemies. I try to remain unseen while keeping on the move

midnight nimbus
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almost like the game isn't designed to handle instant respawn šŸ¤”

stoic breach
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Yeah

formal valve
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As Recon btw

midnight nimbus
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I like BF4 and 1 recon

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but don't really care for it much in other titles

stoic breach
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BF4 had stealth and BF1 had power

fathom crown
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oh wow EA support is actually useful

stoic breach
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I wish both could be in BFV

midnight nimbus
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BF4 recon actually has insane anti vehicle power too

formal valve
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I like BFVs just the way it is

midnight nimbus
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but you need competent teammates

stoic breach
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Yeah

fathom crown
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bf1 recon was perfect

midnight nimbus
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there's a reason why recon is essentially banned in BF4 ESL

stoic breach
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BFV bolts are practically the opposite of useful, and I cant minmax with them

midnight nimbus
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based class

stoic breach
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Hmm

formal valve
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The bolt action rifles are good in BFV. Not overpowered like BF1

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Take practice to use

stoic breach
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They were pretty balanced in BF1

solid hinge
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So speaking of recon, let’s talk about the Lee Memefield

midnight nimbus
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if you actually think BF1 recon was OP

stoic breach
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Slowest weapon but hardest hitting

midnight nimbus
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lmfao

formal valve
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I mean the bolt actions

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Not the class itself

stoic breach
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The bolt actions in BFV are in limbo

midnight nimbus
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yes, that's why all the top players whore recon in BF1 /s

solid hinge
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Recon wasn’t really op in bf1 tbh

stoic breach
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Everything else does everything better and more efficiently

solid hinge
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Just a lot of ppl liked it

formal valve
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I will loathe the Sweetspot mechanic till my dying breath

stoic breach
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There was also muzzle velocity and damage in BF1

solid hinge
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It was and it wasn't. The sweet spot made it really annoying to deal with, it just allowed players to sit back and 1-tap.

stoic breach
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You would chunk outside of sweetspot, OHK inside sweetspot, and muzzle velocity let you hit headshots better

formal valve
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I like BFVs much better, because it keeps the braindead people who miss the Sweetspot away from the class

midnight nimbus
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good thing the majority of bolt actions had sweet spots that are only useful for objective ranges

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encouraging people to play the objective šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”

formal valve
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It’s a challenge in BFV, one that I find exciting

stoic breach
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Not a rewarding challenge though

formal valve
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I can still play the objective as recon BFV

stoic breach
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Boys AT is a more rewarding challenge

formal valve
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Stop

solid hinge
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It doesn’t tho @formal valve there’s way too many braindead recons out there

midnight nimbus
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fun = reward / risk

solid hinge
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It should be a lvl 50 requirement lmao

stoic breach
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Cause its like, you can get a single kill with a bolt and then you rechamber

main grove
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It would be nice to have bolt actions actually able to compete with the rest of the game

stoic breach
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Thats slow and unhelpful

midnight nimbus
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imagine sweating your ass off to be a bare minimum effective recon when you can bomber farm instead

carmine eagle
formal valve
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I don’t sweat my ass off @midnight nimbus

stoic breach
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Or P08/Boys/ZH/1906

formal valve
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It’s called practice

midnight nimbus
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or annihilate everyone with assault with less effort

compact oxide
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Imo just making sweet spot damage like 90 damage would've been fine

solid hinge
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Imagine sweating your ass off in bf

main grove
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Tbh less effort makes things less fun

stoic breach
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Thats just chunking

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Not really helpful

formal valve
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If you watch my streams (don’t they’re terrible) you’ll see how quickly I can acquire targets and get headshots

main grove
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It just becomes braindead at that point

stoic breach
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Thats what the M95 does and it still sucks

formal valve
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Man

midnight nimbus
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yeah, the BFV K98 pretty much does the same

formal valve
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BF1 spoiled you all

midnight nimbus
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not exactly a powerhouse

stoic breach
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Sniping in general spoiled me

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CoD sniping, BF1 sniping, Titanfall sniping

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All useful

midnight nimbus
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a greater challenge with less reward is just masochism

formal valve
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But it’s fun

stoic breach
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Insurgency OHK hitscan

main grove
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BF1 had to have good bolt actions in an era that was dominated by them

solid hinge
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CoD sniping šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

formal valve
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My point is

stoic breach
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Yeah man, if snipers in CoD didnt OHK

formal valve
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Look I know you guys don’t like how it is in BFV.

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I understand that

main grove
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I much prefer BF5’s shooting to BF1’s

formal valve
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But I do, that’s just how I have fun. I can respect you guys opinion, I just like the class

solid hinge
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I like it in bfv

midnight nimbus
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i like BFV semis

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and some of the autos ig

main grove
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But I wish bolt actions didn’t get fucked by nerfs from the previous game

compact oxide
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Whereas everything else got buffed

stoic breach
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Yeah Robert its better to have fun than to think they're legitimately good

solid hinge
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Bfv bolts are still really fun if you can play them

formal valve
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You know to be fair

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I probably only think they’re good because I’m good with them LULW

stoic breach
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Probably

solid hinge
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they'd be more fun with Unrevivable Headshots

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cough cough wink wink

stoic breach
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Like you can be good at them and still not be useful

solid hinge
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No they’d be more annoying tho

formal valve
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That’s something I’d be down for

main grove
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Landing headshots is easier in this than it is in BF1

compact oxide
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Only fun I had with bfv bolts was the M95 and quickswapping point blank

formal valve
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No pun intended

fathom crown
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unrevivable headshots from snipers?

stoic breach
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Like, I'm good at sniping, so I use the Boys AT and Tromboncino

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Instead of bolts

solid hinge
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Revives = take 2 on the same target

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specifically from bolts

fathom crown
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that would reeeeaaaaly buff recon is terms of productivity

midnight nimbus
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yeah bc BFV made the head hitbox bigger

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BF1 head was much smaller

solid hinge
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rewards you for hitting the head

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great justice

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Nah

midnight nimbus
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I liked the small head hitbox

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headshots should be hard

stoic breach
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Unreviveavle headshots would give bolt action purists more to say šŸ‘ŗ

solid hinge
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I prefer to let them revive so I can kill them again

main grove
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In a game with no sweet spot BF1 head sizes would makes snipers even worse

solid hinge
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I want them in the ground

midnight nimbus
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BFV bolt actions would be rewarding if headshots BSODed your enemy

solid hinge
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Not tumbling behind sandbags to get revived instantly

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It would also make sniper fights less dumb

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But it’s not instant and also it gives you a little tiny challenge of headshotting the medic who revived them

compact oxide
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@midnight nimbus unironically that's what V1s would do at launch for me

midnight nimbus
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I would play BFV and exclusively snipe for BSOD headshots

solid hinge
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Which is fun

midnight nimbus
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or if headshots turned the body into a live grenade at least

stoic breach
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Grunt birthday party

solid hinge
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That would just be silly

midnight nimbus
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so bolt actions would be sick at destroying zergs

compact oxide
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Hence why we need a crazy next game

midnight nimbus
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would be hilarious

main grove
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Getting headshots uninstalls BFV for the victim

solid hinge
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Halo + Battlefield

midnight nimbus
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no, we want to punish the victim, not do them a favor

solid hinge
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Lmao

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a bolt that shoots sticky dynamite

stoic breach
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Bolt action sweetspot penetration

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Thats another reason I like the Boys AT

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😩

compact oxide
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I'm thinking Destiny 2 level of crazy guns

solid hinge
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bullets that bounce between enemy heads

midnight nimbus
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the headshot bullet should travel through time and kill them again upon respawn

compact oxide
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But in battle field

main grove
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I hate Boys AT

solid hinge
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The best punishment is persistent repetition until the victim rages

main grove
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Using it

stoic breach
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BF1 had some interesting guns

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RSC SMG 😩

solid hinge
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bullets that home in on enemies so if you shoot directly upwards they guarantee kills

stoic breach
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General Liu 😩

fallow hawk
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Anyone know some good tips for a new player to bf1?

compact oxide
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Having pistols where killing an enemy makes them explode

fallow hawk
#

It's so hard

compact oxide
#

@fallow hawk use medic

fallow hawk
#

and I keep getting insta killed

compact oxide
#

It's OP

stoic breach
#

Howdah Export shotgun pistol

fallow hawk
#

I use assault right now

#

m18 trench optical

main grove
#

Tbh I was kind of against Ayla’s idea of unreviveable headshots but I can see them being a good incentive to use over SLRs

fallow hawk
#

because too many tanks

midnight nimbus
#

BFH did unrevivable headshots

fallow hawk
#

it's so hard to play

formal valve
#

Really @midnight nimbus?

midnight nimbus
#

still didn't make bolt actions that appealing, but it was better

formal valve
#

I never noticed

fallow hawk
#

I can't hit anyone either

compact oxide
#

Na, play medic and hang back is what I'd reccomend. Focus on rezzing

#

And healing

midnight nimbus
#

BFH bolt actions were good because they could actually bodyshot people decently

stoic breach
#

I would rather make SLRs a one shot headshot and make bolt actions a sweetspot bodyshot

solid hinge
#

it corresponds with attrition and it helps separate bolt actions from anti tank rifles

compact oxide
#

Work towards the two fully auto medic guns for a beginner and you're cruisey

main grove
#

ENEMY HIT +100
ENEMY KILLED +20
FATAL HEADSHOT +50
MARKSMAN BONUS +82

solid hinge
#

Okay

stoic breach
#

I accidentally made my friend obsessed with the Burton LMR

solid hinge
#

Dont forget counter sniper

midnight nimbus
#

true ascension in BF1 only comes from the AL8 35

compact oxide
#

Burton is alright

fallow hawk
#

So I need a sniper?

midnight nimbus
#

actually Burton is fucking incredible

#

BF1 M16A3

main grove
#

Burton is BF1 FG42

compact oxide
#

@fallow hawk na, I mean you can get the scoped guns but I'd reccomend keeping it close range to start out

stoic breach
#

@solid hinge SLR one shot headshot and bolt action sweetspots

fallow hawk
#

ok

stoic breach
#

😩😩

fallow hawk
#

I played about 5 hours so far and right now I just capture the points

compact oxide
#

1907 SL Sweeper is a great one to work to

fallow hawk
#

because if I tryfight I get destroyed

compact oxide
#

Yeah it's mostly veterans playing bf1 now

fallow hawk
#

How do I stop that?

solid hinge
#

Just use gas grenades and keep your gas mask on

midnight nimbus
#

Sweeper sucks

compact oxide
#

Lol

midnight nimbus
#

unless you're on high ping

#

that's the only reason to use the sweeper

compact oxide
#

Sweeper is good to start man

formal valve
#

HEATHEN

solid hinge
#

Gas spam is the best spam

compact oxide
#

Same with federov

stoic breach
#

I use the M1907 Trench if I need to get multikills

midnight nimbus
#

Federov is only useful if your brain is too small to click 5x a second with the 1907

compact oxide
#

I mean I never use either now but it's good to not worry about aiming

midnight nimbus
#

1907 is better

stoic breach
#

Recently I've been going with M1907 Trench/AL8.35 Marksman

midnight nimbus
#

1907 Factory is the de facto EU Frontlines stomping gun

#

that all the sweaties got 100 SS with

compact oxide
#

Starting out you want to ease into the feel of the game, focussing on the guns is later

solid hinge
#

Gewehr m.95 or bust

fallow hawk
#

This is my first serious fps game

midnight nimbus
#

illya muromets or bust, really

stoic breach
#

M95 good enough not to need a sweetspot 😩

fallow hawk
#

apart from bf4

compact oxide
#

@fallow hawk but yeah overall I'd reccomend medic, having the heals to keep yourself topped up, revs to get some helpers back alive and guns that can do all ranges

midnight nimbus
#

how to BF1: use illya muromets or destroyer

formal valve
#

Can’t wait to get an Italian helmet tomorrow

midnight nimbus
#

throw explosives at objectives

#

watch everyone cry

formal valve
#

And watch everyone die

midnight nimbus
#

mortar truck is kinda hype

prime pine
#

Ugh

compact oxide
formal valve
prime pine
#

How did i surprise a bunch of assaults rushing my tiger

midnight nimbus
#

would recommend arty truck too, but mortar truck is better

prime pine
#

Sticking dynamite up my ass

compact oxide
#

Multiple servers in BF1 ban mortar trucks

stoic breach
#

Damn

prime pine
#

Not surprise but live

#

Fucking

midnight nimbus
#

it's all the fun of the arty truck, minus much of the risk

prime pine
#

Smilemate was doing so much damage

stoic breach
#

Smilemate

prime pine
#

You know who he is raze

stoic breach
#

I think I recognise that name

prime pine
#

Yewh

stoic breach
#

Yeah

prime pine
#

Part of the dw fuckboys

stoic breach
#

Hahaha fucking DW

#

Vro

#

I hate them

prime pine
#

Fucking fL is more bearable than them.

minor plank
#

I main the schwimmwagen

stoic breach
#

Michael whyd you say that

solid hinge
#

^

minor plank
#

Because it's important

prime pine
#

Swim under me

solid hinge
#

SLR one shot headshot would be terrifying

prime pine
#

What

#

I need food

minor plank
#

Bodie I'd love to

stoic breach
#

SLR one shot headshot and bolt action bodyshot would actually be interesting

#

Michael stop trying to razz

#

Wait he lives in Coober Pedy cause adelaide isnt real

prime pine
#

Imagine a 120 RPM SLR with a OHKO headshot range

stoic breach
#

That would be sick

#

One taps for days

#

Michael are you playing bf1

prime pine
#

It would be balanced by its fire rate and the SLR signature high recoil

stoic breach
#

Yeah

#

@minor plank

solid hinge
#

Ap mines need a buff

#

Also the at mines

#

They both need buffs

minor plank
#

Hello Amelio

stoic breach
#

Shut the your up

prime pine
#

Ap mine launcher on the tank needs a buff. Not the version dropped by infy.

minor plank
#

Right

prime pine
#

Shut your what up?

solid hinge
#

What

#

Amelio

#

Whats that

stoic breach
#

Are you playing BF1 or nah micheal

prime pine
#

Probably a name

minor plank
#

Yeah I'll be on later

solid hinge
#

Ow it’s RazenToasts name

stoic breach
#

Cool

solid hinge
#

Amelio

#

Sounds hot

stoic breach
#

Yeah dude

solid hinge
#

Nice

#

Anywayyy

#

Have a great night everyone

#

It’s time to sleep

prime pine
#

Night multi

strong parrot
#

ooof couldnt even finish the spend 70k req points assignment this week, sten cosmetic just doesnt appeal at all FeelsMeowMan

prime pine
#

Amelio isnt a bad name

stoic breach
#

😳

solid hinge
#

^ it’s a hot name

#

I’m gonna dream about Amelio

compact oxide
#

Anyone remember #notmyttk

minor plank
#

I forgot you were calling me Michael because my discord name is literally Michael

stoic breach
#

Michael im really pricked off right now

minor plank
#

I have said too much

prime pine
#

Fool

compact oxide
#

That's when I lost hope in BFV

minor plank
#

Haha I am really pricked off

stoic breach
#

TTK 0.5

prime pine
#

I had no hope for bf5 the instant the game started

#

Not started

stoic breach
#

Wagtandaba

prime pine
#

Came out

stoic breach
#

Reinstall in BF1

compact oxide
#

Oh I had vain hope from the start

stoic breach
#

😩

prime pine
#

Waygyanba fool

compact oxide
#

Got in the alpha and all

#

Waaaaait, are we all Aussie?

prime pine
#

I didnt get the alpha. Did the alpha feel different to you?

minor plank
#

Grant infinite health, make tickrate 50% to truly test PTFO abilities

prime pine
#

Yeah Aussie here

fallow hawk
#

Ok

stoic breach
#

Tickrate 50%

#

Thats so shit

fallow hawk
#

I like putting dynamite on tanks

formal valve
#

I’m US lmao

minor plank
#

Nah bro that's good as

prime pine
#

Did the alpha feel different from the base product. Was the atmosphere different.

compact oxide
#

The alpha was actually great as medics got SARs

prime pine
#

Cause it seemed really conjested. Not in the bad way.

minor plank
#

Nah the atmosphere is still shit

formal valve
#

Well for starters, the British had ACTUAL BROWN OUTFITS

prime pine
#

The alpha looked like it was choking you

formal valve
#

in the alpha

compact oxide
#

But I was at 350 ping the whole time

prime pine
#

Now the base game is starving us

#

Its killing us in different ways

formal valve
#

The alpha had British brown lmao

#

😫

stoic breach
#

Now its green to match the scenery 😌

formal valve
#

No

#

I hate it

stoic breach
#

@prime pine do you have BF1 installed

formal valve
#

So inaccurate

stoic breach
#

Yeah its shit

formal valve
#

British wouldn’t wear green

#

Unless it was like the paratroopers, but that was camouflaged smocks

prime pine
#

No i dont

stoic breach
#

Fug

prime pine
#

Ill be very honest

#

At the end i was getting sick of the sentries and shit

stoic breach
#

Yeah same thats why I stopped playing

#

But now I've started again

formal valve
#

Hey you guys wanna see a really well done and edited video?

midnight nimbus
#

@compact oxide the alpha G43 had 700ms ADS time

formal valve
midnight nimbus
#

literally unbearable

prime pine
#

Il give it a whirl

#

Eventually

formal valve
#

Really well done video

prime pine
#

Dunnow hen

stoic breach
#

Eventually

formal valve
#

13:20 onwards shit goes down lmao

compact oxide
#

Well you saw I had 350 ping constant in the alpha, so I didn't notice šŸ˜›

coarse thunder
#

Gah finally done with all but 2 of the nodes

midnight nimbus
#

I had like 30 fps stable in the alpha

#

with a GTX 980

compact oxide
#

Oof

midnight nimbus
#

and that's when I started to lose hope in BFV

compact oxide
#

I was on a 1080 and it was just as bad

cinder radish
#

only 2 servers up in AUS atm. and 1 has an aimbotter in it. yay

prime pine
#

Wanna see if we can play some rush later raze?

compact oxide
#

This is why you play BF1 WeSmart

stoic breach
#

Yeah probably

compact oxide
#

No hackers in RSP Kappa

stoic breach
#

I'll get michael to join as well

midnight nimbus
#

BFV is the only BF game where i didn't play the alpha and beta until they shut down

stoic breach
#

I wish I could use the schwimmwagen in rush

cinder radish
#

i dont generally go backwards with BF titles.

midnight nimbus
#

iirc i had over a day of playtime in each the BFH alpha and beta

solid hinge
#

I wish this game had more guns

prime pine
#

Bearcat was scary

midnight nimbus
#

2 days of playtime before the game even released

prime pine
#

Seen the game play of it. Grenade launcher on a cat is just horrifying

solid hinge
#

also battlefield 5 should have more sides

#

than british empire and nazi germany

#

italy japan usa

prime pine
#

This is dice, cyprus. Dont expect much.

compact oxide
#

I mean BFV had the second beta before release with the "early launch"

stoic breach
#

I cant imagine BFV being remotely fun in early release

solid hinge
#

this game is barely ww2

prime pine
#

Beta was fun

solid hinge
#

its missing so much stuff

stoic breach
#

Beta attrition beta attrition

midnight nimbus
#

performance was almost as awful as it is now haHAA

#

I didn't even play the second closed alpha

#

even with an invite

stoic breach
#

Damn

#

Thats wack

#

Yeah I mean Narvik isnt that excited so

fathom crown
#

i heard that beta ran extremely smooth

stoic breach
#

Beta ran smooth on xbox, idk about pc

midnight nimbus
#

I had to play it with like 80% res scale to get 60 fps

#

with a GTX 980

prime pine
#

Narvik was really bad for conq. Its,bearable now at least

stoic breach
#

How does BFV have such bad performance on PC?

midnight nimbus
#

granted, i play with high res, but i also play on all low

#

I mean performance across the board kinda sucks

#

but having serious performance issues is random

#

it's a big performance hog, regardless of what hardware you have

stoic breach
#

Yeah

#

Thats weird though

#

And then you have BF4 900p on console

#

Absolutely beautiful with forced motion blur

compact oxide
#

Even Bf1 was way better for perf

stoic breach
#

BF1 doesnt run as well as BFV on console

#

Ironically

compact oxide
#

Oh wow

stoic breach
#

And I don't care that much about looks so I prefer BFV performance

#

And you can have lighting and atmosphere without RTX so yeah

compact oxide
#

Raytracing is still honestly a meme

#

Unless you're playing VR Minecraft

midnight nimbus
#

I've never tried RTX in BFV

stoic breach
#

The winter game

fathom crown
#

what exactly is raytracing

midnight nimbus
#

was too scared of it cooking my PC

stoic breach
#

Warm up your room with your pc

midnight nimbus
#

raytracing is a new method of rendering light and reflections

compact oxide
#

I've got a 2080ti and never bothered because it more than halves your frames

midnight nimbus
#

it's honestly the future of graphics

fathom crown
#

hm

midnight nimbus
#

but rn it causes a huge performance hit

compact oxide
#

It's great, but the hardware isn't there

fathom crown
#

yea

prime pine
#

So apparently tank stuttering will no longer be a thing too

midnight nimbus
#

this generation of GPUs is the first to be able to render raytracing in real time

prime pine
#

Which

stoic breach
#

Its like how Crysis was made for like 12 core computers or something

prime pine
#

Is awesone

midnight nimbus
#

like raytracing has been possible for awhile if you're rendering movies or something

fathom crown
#

i heard some decent computers today still cant run crysis well lmao

midnight nimbus
#

nah

compact oxide
#

Oh god the "can it run crysis" meme

fathom crown
#

lol

stoic breach
#

Hahaha

#

Yeah its a real classic

midnight nimbus
#

even Crysis 3 is pretty easy to run (relatively speaking) nowadays

#

cryengine is dank

prime pine
#

Can it run battlefield without crashing

midnight nimbus
#

looks better than BFV

prime pine
#

Its weird

#

I think doom has aged well

#

Original doom

#

Its really recognisable

stoic breach
#

Yeah

#

You know what hasnt aged well

#

Prey 1

prime pine
#

3D games of the old

#

OH YEAH

compact oxide
#

Doom 2016 was incredibly well optimised

prime pine
#

Anyone here played wolfenstein the new order?

stoic breach
#

Nah I havent

fathom crown
#

doom is very well optimized indeed

compact oxide
#

My little bro could play it at 60 fps with a 650ti

prime pine
#

Fucking. Wilhelm is so fucking reminicant of deathshead

stoic breach
#

60fps Doom on console is 😩

compact oxide
#

I've played both new order and old blood

prime pine
#

When i played doom i was so fucking happy

#

Doom 4

fathom crown
#

everyone with atleast a 300 dollar setup can run doom

prime pine
#

Alright i'll share the pics

#

Hang on

stoic breach
#

Dang

icy sluice
#

For a second, I thought this was talking about the Retro doom

prime pine
#

Aight so maybe the reason why im associating them is cause they're both old and fucking bald

midnight nimbus
#

remember when you could run BF3 on a relative POS with low res and graphics and it was still really playable

prime pine
#

I was originally talking about retro doom

midnight nimbus
#

even BF4 at 1366x768 has better visibility than BFV

compact oxide
#

I really need to add the "he's right you know" emote here

cinder radish
#

there is an aimbotter live right now in AUS servers killing everyone

compact oxide
#

So report him

#

We can't do anything here

cinder radish
#

everyone leaves and he changes server and does it again

prime pine
#

Nvm deathshead has a taller head

stoic breach
#

Actually im gonna delet that

#

Its too big

cinder radish
#

i already have. Aus servers about to die cause of it

prime pine
#

If i can post pictures i'll be happy

stoic breach
#

Be active 😩

prime pine
#

I am!

stoic breach
#

Be more active 😩

prime pine
#

Im too busy playing the actual game!

stoic breach
#

Vrethren

compact oxide
#

Gotta suck up to the admins...... šŸ™„

stoic breach
#

I didnt even do that tho

#

šŸ‘½

upper vault
#

What if

compact oxide
#

I was the second person to get trusted and it was because I whined in chat about not being able to post pics Yikes don't do that btw

prime pine
#

Suck the admins

upper vault
#

We had this:

BF VI: The Revolutionary War

midnight nimbus
#

just use a tank

#

aimbot does nothing to tanks

compact oxide
#

BFVI:Fallout

prime pine
#

What time will you be on raze?

#

If you want to play rush later

stoic breach
#

I might get on in like 10 minutes

prime pine
#

Oh wow

stoic breach
#

Im having suop

prime pine
#

Yes

#

Suop

stoic breach
#

Yes

compact oxide
#

You blokes should get PCs

#

Then we can play together

stoic breach
#

Yeah I should

#

If I get wine I could play on my mac

upper vault
#

Hm,
Yes,
The floor here is made out of money

stoic breach
#

But I aint got the space

prime pine
#

Dont have a job

midnight nimbus
#

boot camp

compact oxide
#

Oof

#

Bootcamp is good

#

It's what I used when I had my first Mac

midnight nimbus
#

one of my really good friends plays everything off his Macbook Pro

stoic breach
#

My SSD is full and my HDD is for storage

#

W

compact oxide
#

What Mac you got?

stoic breach
#

Dang

prime pine
#

Aight.... Devastation...

stoic breach
#

I have an imac

prime pine
#

Lets do dis

compact oxide
#

Ah.....yeah probs don't want to upgrade that yourself then

prime pine
#

Send me a message on xbox raze and i'll back out and start a squad

stoic breach
#

Yea

compact oxide
#

Unless you have a pizza cutter

stoic breach
#

Yeah sure I'll just get on now

#

Yeah the best part about the mac is that the mac has an alluminium back and it acts as its own heat sync during summer

#

Its just fantastic

#

How shit that is

compact oxide
#

Imo I'm not a fan of the iMacs

#

But I've had three MacBook pros over the years, got one in front of me now in fact

stoic breach
#

I dont even know how I got it, I came home from school one day and it was just in my bedroom

compact oxide
#

Lol

midnight nimbus
#

i'd never consider a non Macbook Pro laptop, but yeah they're pretty shit for gaming

compact oxide
#

Yeah defs not great for gaming

#

Although I used to game on my 2011 13" MBP

stoic breach
#

It runs Insurgency better than my surface pro 4 šŸ˜”

compact oxide
#

With the trackpad

midnight nimbus
#

could be interesting with an eGPU

icy sluice
#

I'm at Soup

prime pine
#

Uh raze

compact oxide
#

Would play Skyrim on that beast at 10 fps WearyOk

stoic breach
#

Yes

prime pine
#

Last sector

#

I cant bakc out now

#

I need to d9w hat i can

stoic breach
#

Finish the fight

icy sluice
#

10 fps is the only playable framerate

#

Nothing higher, nothing lower

compact oxide
#

The human eye can't see more than 15 anyway

stoic breach
#

Competitively balanced

icy sluice
#

Human body can't move past 5 either

stoic breach
#

I cant get out of bed past 5

prime pine
#

Ah fuc

#

They got in

#

Did my best with the mg34 at least.

midnight nimbus
#

we shouldn't give an advantage to the players who can see past 24 fps yes

prime pine
#

Aight. I'll back out. Find my mic and hope party chat works.

solid hinge
#

bodie holding off the horde

prime pine
#

Haha

midnight nimbus
#

games shouldn't go past 15 fps just in case

prime pine
#

They flanked us

#

Couldnt kill the shotgunner

compact oxide
#

I mean, if they're really small frames I could run past maybe like 7ps?

icy sluice
#

I was looking at Comparison videos for CoD WWII and Battlefeild V... instead of comparing MG42s, they compared CoD's MG42 to the MG34 in BFV

prime pine
#

Lmao

solid hinge
#

Big brain

icy sluice
#

Because Comparing MG42s would just be embarrassing I guess

compact oxide
#

But they're the same gun duh

prime pine
#

SUOP

#

Raze loves suop

stoic breach
#

Bruh

prime pine
icy sluice
#

This is an English speaking server, just to let ya know

prime pine
#

I may of used raze and bait by accident to knife soneone on the ground

cinder radish
#

another game. another aimbotter

#

currently 76-6. i been following them around. so obvious.

crude beacon
#

😦

#

Hope the patch today scares them of for a few days

cinder radish
#

106-8 my whole clan is just standing here watching him snap everyone from a small hill

soft storm
#

Nice

#

Dude I love EA games, they’re an experiment to see how much a hacker can get away with

crude beacon
#

god, they are predicting 30+ degrees C today....

fallow hawk
#

Startws playing bf4 again

#

Wow it still fedls great

crude beacon
#

cheaters must be absolutely rampant in that game now

soft storm
#

Everyone plays Community servers

ionic thorn
#

bro im boutta fight DICE single handedly the fucking rush objective keeps resetting everytime I try to arm or defuse

#

this happen to anyone else?

compact oxide
#

@cinder radish you PC?

stoic breach
#

Woo hoo

crude beacon
#

Don't play rush - that entire game mode is broken

#

šŸ˜›

stoic breach
#

šŸ¦€ Narvik is gone šŸ¦€

#

Time for the next map in Rush

ionic thorn
#

Im tryna get waterproof for Sten its very important that I get it

#

yo this is absolutely ass

#

every fucking time

#

once I stop holding square it keeps me in the planting animation

#

how is this so broken

crude beacon
#

patch today will fix eeeeverything

#

or..

#

the opposite

ionic thorn
#

there's only 6 things being fixed today lmao

crude beacon
#

2nd minor patch next week

#

with maps

#

hopefully there a bit more in that

prime pine
#

Raze now knows of the power of the panzer iv

#

On rush

ionic thorn
#

I thought next week was just simply Marita activation?

crude beacon
#

probably , but you can hope for more šŸ˜‰

#

is main dev still in Sweden ?

ionic thorn
#

idk why that optimism is so reassuring

#

yeah I think so

#

I think LA is just working on maps as far as I know

crude beacon
#

summer vacations then

#

3-4 weeks

ionic thorn
#

yeah they're on vacation this month that's why

crude beacon
#

not a good month to release anything :/

ionic thorn
#

they just don't have the manpower rn to fix everything

#

which makes things worse for the game lol

crude beacon
#

working on the next game

#

if it's going to be ready 2020

ionic thorn
#

coming back from a vacation is the worst thing but now they gotta come back to all this shit 😭

#

i hope not

#

should be 2021 tbh

#

3 year dev

crude beacon
#

logic is not the EA way

ionic thorn
#

as we have seen

#

their executives gotta go

solid hinge
#

you know I don't get it

#

why do people complain about snipers camping and staying in one place

#

aren't they supposed to be do that

#

because they cant aim

#

yeah but that's just what people who get killed by them often say

#

even when you get killed by them you'll check the scores and often they're going 6-1 in a half hour game

#

I mean

#

is that supposed to be bad

#

I get that it's a broken thing in some aspects but

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the KD is good but if they're camping on the edge and not contributing to objective play then they'd better be racking the kills up like no ones business

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often they dont camp in places good for the rest of their squad to spawn on either

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They'll stay in the spawn zone and take potshots

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The only way to fix this is to have snipers have a bonus whenever they're near a point or something

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I dunno

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honestly I dont see it changing whatever you do

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people really like sniper simulators for some reason

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..so at least buff bolt actions so they arent so useless

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the other goal is to remove sniper from the game and make a spec ops class instead

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I mean I like that idea

formal valve
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No

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Ree

solid hinge
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I mean

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if people hate it

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then remove the class

compact oxide
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It's a staple

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For better or for worse it needs to be there

crude beacon
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WIth p80 buff you are prob going to see a few more aggressive "snipers"

stoic breach
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Sweetspot at OBJ distance 😩😩

formal valve
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Oh lit I got invited to participate in the GRBP technical test this weekend

solid hinge
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begone sweetspotter

formal valve
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That’ll be fun

solid hinge
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Well yeah it's a staple but what about designing a game with no sniper

formal valve
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@solid hinge finally a man of culture

solid hinge
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or at the very least a scout class with an SMG and binos

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ww2 with no snipers

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or some sort of spec ops

compact oxide
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One class has to have the rifles

solid hinge
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What about rifleman?

compact oxide
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That class is therefore the sniper

formal valve
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Assault is thE Rifleman

compact oxide
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Calling it a different name doesn't change it

solid hinge
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I'm sorta looking at this from a tactical shooter perspective so it might not work for bf tbh

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Idk I hear alot of randos complaining about snipers and then when people actually get to removing them then those people say that they're a staple in the game

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it's very conflicting

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it's not complaining about snipers so much as complaining about useless camping snipers

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So then how would you eradicate such a problem

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You could probably have a sweet spotting method or something

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buff bolts so they're slightly less useless

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sweetspots are no fun..

formal valve
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FINALLY

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someone who realizes what I mean

solid hinge
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the bots that camp probably wouldn't even do it in sweetspot range

stoic breach
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Sweetspots are the best

solid hinge
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the concept sounds novel

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but idk if it was executed correctly

stoic breach
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Bolts are too slow not to have a OHK bodyshot potential

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Tromboncino doesnt need one cause its fast

bronze grotto
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sweetspotters RISE UP

formal valve
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No

bronze grotto
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wtf...

crude beacon
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ZH29 all the way for me

formal valve
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Go back to your cave

stoic breach
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I would honestly argue that guns like the ZH and 1906 should have one shot headshot

bronze grotto
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tfw no arisaka and ross rifle sweetspot nukers

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the ross in bf5 is a travesty

solid hinge
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2 shot kill at any range with 160rpm 1 shot headshot

bronze grotto
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epic

solid hinge
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😟

formal valve
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underpowered

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Just learn to headshot ya plebs

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Like a real sniper

stoic breach
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Dude

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I do headshot

pseudo oak
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p80 was op as it was

stoic breach
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With the Tromboncino

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A good sniper

formal valve
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It’s not a bolt action

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It’s a bolt action carbine

solid hinge
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it shoots like 3 times faster than the regular bolts

formal valve
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Exactly

stoic breach
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So you can headshot with it better

solid hinge
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if you can headshot with it then it's actually scary

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i don't think ive been scares by a single bolt action

stoic breach
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Yeah

solid hinge
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not only are the bolts slow, but if you have a scope they get even slower

formal valve
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It’s not a Bolt action tho

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Not compatible to the bolts

stoic breach
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It is

solid hinge
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iirc if you have a 6x scope it's something like a third slower

stoic breach
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And its better in every way

formal valve
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It’s not

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They can ads while recycling, and have different rof and damage models

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Not compatible to Rifles at all

solid hinge
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they're essentially bolt actions with straight pull and damage drop

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the bolts have different rof between them