battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

for this patch to be anywhere close to successful they'll have to not add a single bug

or people will lose it

[chrome reef]

Invisible tanks now? Awww yeah

[solid hinge]

I'm so close to quitting the game

[coral fiber]

Invisble planes

[idle breach]

Invisivble smoke grande

[solid hinge]

I mean shit maybe they actually wont add any new bugs, they've barely fucking DONE anything with this patch

[chrome reef]

Do it

[idle breach]

Gra

[crisp stone]

honestly trying to find a single support wep that actually can actually fight ARs at that range and can fight smgs in close, so weve got the fg-42 that kicks like a mule and only has 20 rounds

[solid hinge]

Cant add new bugs if you dont change anything

[idle breach]

Granade

[solid hinge]

I've already ditched bfv 😅

[idle breach]

Invisible smoke granade

[stoic breach]

FG42 is the best assault rifle in the game wym

[chrome reef]

How about we make everyone invisible that way it’s fair for everyone

[stoic breach]

[crisp stone]

20 rounds

[stoic breach]

Yeah so

[crisp stone]

excessive kick

[stoic breach]

Thats more than enough

Just burst fire

[midnight nimbus]

> 1907 exists

[chrome reef]

STG best rifle

[stoic breach]

Yeah true

[crisp stone]

to kills like 2 enemies max

[idle breach]

No three

[stoic breach]

But I have no motivation to use the gun that I spent like a hundred hours using

[midnight nimbus]

oh nvm P08C buff is super marginal

[idle breach]

Since bayonet

[midnight nimbus]

not gonna be close to world changing

[crisp stone]

and lets face it youre gonna be doing a mag reload not tactical

[solid hinge]

kht with the deets

[midnight nimbus]

barely noticeable

[solid hinge]

waaaaiiiit invisible tanks!?!?!?!?!?!

[crude beacon]

the late join no hit reg bug is probably going to explode 😃

[chrome reef]

They gonna fix some assignments

[solid hinge]

what's the velocity change kht

[crude beacon]

so it's the entire game, not just after join

[midnight nimbus]

like 13.5%

[chrome reef]

Mab38 assignments are the same as the commando carbine with exception of headshot kills

[coral fiber]

Invisible invisible soldiers

[stoic breach]

Thats one whole specialisation

[solid hinge]

that's.... something

[crude beacon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/ch5337/bug_report_1_late_join_major_hitreg_issue/

[stoic breach]

Plus a bit

[midnight nimbus]

ig that's not super marginal

[stoic breach]

[midnight nimbus]

recoil is like a 15ish% buff

[dense bone]

still a buff to an already good gun imo

[chrome reef]

How do I get kills over 30 meters with MAB38

[idle breach]

Twisteed steel bridge becomes invisible

[solid hinge]

woo 15% buffs

[midnight nimbus]

ghetto G 1-5

[dense bone]

i like recon kit way more so ill take it

[solid hinge]

It's better than the g1-5 because it gets Lattey sight

[stoic breach]

Lattey is disgusting

[dense bone]

lattey sight is fucking ugly

[midnight nimbus]

G 1-5 with Lattey would be 💦

[solid hinge]

[idle breach]

So

[solid hinge]

dont bully Lattey it's great on semi auto gund

[stoic breach]

It covers my entire screen

[dense bone]

you disgust me

[idle breach]

Invisivle latti sigjr

[midnight nimbus]

the lattey actually has clear glass

[chrome reef]

I have every medic gun full gold except mab 38 because of the 30 meter kills

[solid hinge]

2x scope covers the entire person you're shooting at

[midnight nimbus]

and the crosshair looks good in magneta

[stoic breach]

But I got da 2x

[idle breach]

Thsts aputing sight

[dense bone]

its a short range weapon, use irons or gtfo

[coral fiber]

Invisible weapons

[solid hinge]

lattey sight has SHORTER zoom than the irons

[gray glade]

2x FLIR scopes for mg42''s when dice?

[idle breach]

Invisible main menu UI

[midnight nimbus]

i don't like irons with >1x zoom

1.5x irons are gross

[dense bone]

1.25 vs 1.5

[idle breach]

Invisible servers

[coral fiber]

I like the lattey sights

[dense bone]

not much of a difference

[stoic breach]

1.5 kinda makes up for the fact that alot of irons straight up block the screen

[midnight nimbus]

i mean i played BF1 with 1x irons

[dense bone]

and the peripheral vision lattey takes is annoying

[midnight nimbus]

feelsweird

[chrome reef]

Y’all gonna hate me but I like the 2 x aight on slrs

[midnight nimbus]

i prefer the crosshair of the lattey

[gray glade]

the aa sight is still a bit buggy for mmg/lmgs

[idle breach]

Yeah i use 2x on slr

[gray glade]

when they gonna fix dat

[midnight nimbus]

bc you can at least see underneath what you're pointing at

[dense bone]

the reticle on lattey is nice, the rest isnt

[stoic breach]

The aperture I can handle on automatics

But its a bit dark

[midnight nimbus]

the glitched lattey for the Sten was perfect

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah

[chrome reef]

Lattey on Smgs

[midnight nimbus]

just removed the housing

[stoic breach]

Should've stuck with that

[midnight nimbus]

yeah that'd be the perfect BFV sight

[idle breach]

There

[coral fiber]

I actually like aperture sights lol

[solid hinge]

irons already take up the entire bottom half of the screen

[idle breach]

Is too mant people speaking

I need to sleep please

[crisp stone]

hallejuh thats the tide of war done so i can ditch bf5 for now.

[stoic breach]

I like the Karabin iron sights tho

[midnight nimbus]

unrealistically clear sights are 👌

[solid hinge]

[dense bone]

how often is someone gonna be UNDER you?

[stoic breach]

Why doesnt BFV just use Hcog

[dense bone]

compared to lattey covering to the side?

[idle breach]

Not really i dont get laid often

[solid hinge]

The last 3 times I used irons someone under me killed me

[stoic breach]

Thats sad you just insulted yourseld

[solid hinge]

I make that mistake no longer

[idle breach]

And im short so no many under me

[dense bone]

lol how do people get under you?

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

I hate the Karabin with 3x scope

[solid hinge]

PRONED

[stoic breach]

I cant use it

I have to use the iron sights

[dense bone]

you had to walk there

so you didnt see them either way

[idle breach]

Nyphon cat changed

[midnight nimbus]

nice to see under what you're pointing at bc of recoil

[solid hinge]

YES

I got the coupe coupe!!!

[midnight nimbus]

but Nydar is good enough, even though it has dirty glass

[solid hinge]

Is it beneficial in any wau

[idle breach]

Tjats the cat from that movie

[midnight nimbus]

well

[hazy wasp]

Irons > Nydar every time

[midnight nimbus]

i just play BF4 nowadays, so Coyote is king

[main rock]

whats the latest on Marita and Al Sundan Conq?

[stoic breach]

Nydar should be cleaned on spawn 😩

[dense bone]

the range p08c is effective and how easy it is to control i dont see how anyone needs to see under them

[midnight nimbus]

don't wanna use shit sights in other games now

Coyote is 😩

[dense bone]

@idle breach i literally just googled "abstract orange cat"

[idle breach]

Oh

[hazy wasp]

watching all the BF4 dlc trailers again, V severely lacks in vehicle warfare

[solid hinge]

I like having vaguely clear sights

[idle breach]

Isnt that british painter painted a lot of cats

Maybe not

[hazy wasp]

you probably need to double the amlunt of vehicles per map

[solid hinge]

Irons cover up too much of the screen

[midnight nimbus]

Nydar with white crosshair + minimum opacity isn't bad

[dense bone]

white crosshair?

[midnight nimbus]

kinda helps with the dirty glass problem

yeah, just use a screendot

[dense bone]

wouldnt that get lost in a lot of scenes?

ive always used magenta

[stoic breach]

I think I just left the Nydar orange

[idle breach]

Just use hipfirr

[stoic breach]

It sticks out enough with low opacity

[midnight nimbus]

screendot never gets lost

just make the rest of the sight as clear as possible

[hazy wasp]

I hipfire and cycle to irons when nessecary

[stoic breach]

Cant screendot on console

[hazy wasp]

Hipfire is super effective in V

[midnight nimbus]

use tape or marker ig

[idle breach]

Can screendotbon console

[stoic breach]

Thats too ghetto

[dense bone]

ill just change crosshair to magenta

[idle breach]

Its traditional fps gamet ritual

Dont insult our culture

[midnight nimbus]

BFV hipfire still 2 weak compared to BF3/4

reshade makes BF so much more playable

[idle breach]

I

I sober up so im gonna go honest

This game should go rehab

Im against death penalty so rehab

[midnight nimbus]

I still dislike BFV irons compared to BF1's

[stiff sky]

@idle breach what if playing battlefield 5 was your rehab

[idle breach]

I am gonna snitch on federal bureau of video gaming

[stoic breach]

BF1 is rehab from BFV

[idle breach]

No mattressss stop bully me

And I did my laundry

[hazy wasp]

BF1 is not as good a core game as V honestly

[stiff sky]

no man i was making a point of what if playing battlefield or death penalty thats what i was going for

[hazy wasp]

everythign else is top notch, V's core gameplay is better

[midnight nimbus]

lol

[idle breach]

Truth hurts

[stoic breach]

[idle breach]

You hurt me

Means you bully me

[barren haven]

Can't find any Combined Arms squad.

[hazy wasp]

1 has shit vehicle gameplay too so can;t even give it that over V

[stiff sky]

i put plaster on and kiss it for you to make it all better XD

[stoic breach]

I get that theres a specific design philosophy for every game

[idle breach]

Okay thanks

[solid hinge]

that would be because literally no one plays combined arms

[stoic breach]

But if a game punishes you for playing how you want to play

[midnight nimbus]

BFV vehicle gameplay is even more shit, just in different ways

[stoic breach]

Its not a great design

[hazy wasp]

Also keep in mind us just bitching isn't gonna help change it lol

[idle breach]

I stidied logic in college so im good at arguements

[stiff sky]

iplay combined arms when i see to many hacker or want to test out guns and gun specs

[idle breach]

I got straight C all the times

[stoic breach]

If australia repopulated BF1 instead of clans sweating in BFV things would be different 😔

I would rather clan sweat in a game where I can actually do something about it

[idle breach]

I hated bf1s slow pace and weird recoil and spread but

The game itself was so good

[midnight nimbus]

somehow the St. Chamond is more fun than any BFV tank

[hazy wasp]

it is my least played BF that i have bought

[idle breach]

That i neber complained

Except fuxking haxkkers

[stoic breach]

St Chammond standoff is really entertaining

[midnight nimbus]

it's like playing a more fun Archer

[idle breach]

Is st chammond that

Longbox tank?

[stoic breach]

Yea

[idle breach]

Yeah the good one

I remember

[midnight nimbus]

didn't play much BF1 vehicles though

[stoic breach]

Also going back and playing BF1, its alot faster

Than BFV

[idle breach]

I almost used that

Peugeot tank and longbox tank

No

Renault

[stoic breach]

The FT17?

[idle breach]

Uh

Yeah

[stoic breach]

The light tank

[idle breach]

Smalltank

[stoic breach]

The light tank

[idle breach]

Honda tank

[midnight nimbus]

I wish I could find Cape Helles Ops so I can use the destroyer 😦

[stoic breach]

I wish shock ops was even played in Aus

Maybe I should move to EU

[idle breach]

I think valentime is op

The normie valentine

[midnight nimbus]

I mean yeah it's the best tank in BFV

[idle breach]

Medium tank is so good in rush

[midnight nimbus]

the medium tanks are overall very good at everything

[idle breach]

Rush should change its entire concept

No tickets but time limit

Its rush, not grind

[stoic breach]

Rush should just change to running away from the mcom instead of running towards it

[midnight nimbus]

idk, i don't think rush works with BFV attrition and maps

[idle breach]

Give more firepower for each team and give attacker time limit

[midnight nimbus]

I mean 64p rush on Arras plays out fine imo

[stoic breach]

Nothing really works with attrition in general

[midnight nimbus]

unless the British tanker in the first sector sucks

[idle breach]

I think attrition is good

Maybe im weird

Or wired

[stoic breach]

I generally dont like not being able to regen to 100hp

[idle breach]

Oh my god im wired help

[stoic breach]

The intended effect of the healthpack was to make engagements more "meaningful" so you pick fights more carefully

[idle breach]

Yeah but they also decided lower ttk in general

[stoic breach]

But with the game having a fast TTK that doesnt work

Yeah

[idle breach]

Virtually non existent line of combat

[stoic breach]

So auto regen could've just been faster instead

[idle breach]

Titally

[midnight nimbus]

TTK isn't even that low

[idle breach]

Totally

Oh

[stoic breach]

It is when you arent at max health

[midnight nimbus]

still slower than BF3 and 4

[idle breach]

Youre rifht not ttk only but

[midnight nimbus]

well yeah, it's low when you aren't at max health

[idle breach]

Almost everyone can engage every distance

Making line of combat less important

[stoic breach]

And since people cant regen to max health its a pretty sizeable issue

[idle breach]

There are no line pushing

[dense bone]

you can carry a pack

and if it bothers you that much just go medic

[stoic breach]

And when that runs out because you use it immediately then what

Friendly players running medic and being near you is basically RNG

[dense bone]

if you used it immediately you should be close to an obj that you can get it back from

[solid hinge]

just don't get shot

[stoic breach]

Yeah man just use bolt action and hit headshots cause it isnt that hard

[midnight nimbus]

just camp the obj

[solid hinge]

exactly!

peek corners and headshot with the bolt

no one will hit you so you can regen everything naturally

flawless

[dense bone]

just play medic

[stoic breach]

Yeah campers are the real heroes, avoiding attrition altogether and sometimes helping the team

[solid hinge]

this is why they keep buffing the p08

bolts are too strong

[stoic breach]

Yeah man

[dense bone]

they arent avoiding attrition, they run out of ammo

[stoic breach]

Supports dont run out of ammo

[dense bone]

we were just talking about bolts

[idle breach]

Bolts

[stoic breach]

Alright generally speaking

MMG campers

[dense bone]

well generally speaking you can go medic and avoid that attrition too...

[solid hinge]

tbh if you run out of ammo with a bolt you have to be HARDCORE camping

and you should also have an incredibly high k/d

[stoic breach]

But if the best way to win a gunfight is to pick one class then idk about that

[solid hinge]

you get like 25 shots on a bolt

[idle breach]

Imagine medic can pick up smokes from dead dobies

Bodies

[dense bone]

its not the best way to win a gunfight

[stoic breach]

I've run out of ammo with the Boys AT before

👽

[dense bone]

its just a way to circumvent health attrition

[stiff sky]

imagine the mg 34 s 1700 rounds per min (drooling face emoji)

[idle breach]

Yeahvwe need mg44

[dense bone]

i win gun fights with recon, that has no attrition mitigation

[idle breach]

Had 2000 rpm

[stiff sky]

yummmy

[dense bone]

granted i PTFO and commonly have crates to keep me going

[idle breach]

Wish dice add mg44

And mp42

[stoic breach]

Health attrition shouldnt even be in the game because if the best ways to get back to 100hp is either to pick one class or go on a fetch quest its a waste of the player's time and makes people more passive

[idle breach]

Super high rof guns

[dense bone]

and i really dont see many solo players getting as much kills as i do

[stiff sky]

^assult class

?

[dense bone]

i play everything

[idle breach]

How about that anti air halftrack?

With 4 hmg

Would be funny reinforcement

[marble phoenix]

patch notes dropped?

[stiff sky]

@idle breach 4 hmg would be more useful than flak right now

[dense bone]

everything infantry*

[idle breach]

Haha true

Wh

Why am i not trusted

[dense bone]

no one is trusted

[idle breach]

Is it because i an unstable

[coral fiber]

Because nobody trusts you?

[dense bone]

trusted is gone

[idle breach]

Fair point

[dense bone]

its regular now

[idle breach]

Oh

Am i regular

[stoic breach]

Wtf

[coral fiber]

No

[stoic breach]

My top class is recon

[idle breach]

Why

[stoic breach]

None of my stats make any sense

[coral fiber]

Haaaa

[sonic rampart]

Omfg I got blue screened

[coral fiber]

Lol

[dense bone]

top class is just most hours

[sonic rampart]

And 1 needed 1 kill to finish a mastery assignment

[stoic breach]

Apparently I'm in the top 1% of recon score

Alright then

[idle breach]

Bot said me rank 47

[sonic rampart]

You focking wot

[idle breach]

Sad

[stoic breach]

I guess the Boys AT boosted my stats

[dense bone]

total score

[idle breach]

Huh

[dense bone]

just means you play a lot

[idle breach]

I can do well with boys

[stoic breach]

I didnt think I played that much

[idle breach]

Cant

[coral fiber]

I think y'all know what my top class is by now...

[stoic breach]

Is it tanker

[idle breach]

Support?

[sonic rampart]

Pilot

[dense bone]

your spm is decent

[sonic rampart]

idk

Lol

[coral fiber]

[stoic breach]

Mine?

[dense bone]

you do have 12 days in game time

[stoic breach]

Wtf

12 days

I didnt even realise

[dense bone]

i have like 4 days

[stoic breach]

You have like half as many deaths as me

[idle breach]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/profile/origin/Hawaianalien/overview

Is my stat acceptable

[sonic rampart]

I have like 10 days

Lmao

[idle breach]

For a functoninf adult

[coral fiber]

I have nearly 14 days

[sonic rampart]

Today I got the 250 hours medal

[dense bone]

jesus guys play other games xD

[stoic breach]

Why are my stats fucked, my K/D is shit but my points are good

[coral fiber]

I also got 5 days worth of flying

[dense bone]

points for what?

and yea i hope i have half your deaths, i have 1/3 your play time

[fathom pebble]

just don't die lol 4Head

[idle breach]

Is my stats accepted for functioning adult??

Please this is important for me

[dense bone]

i wouldnt mind having you on my team

[idle breach]

Thanks

I can finally sleep tonight

[stiff sky]

obbsessed with stats much ^

[stoic breach]

Haha yeah if I lived in NA and played on PC I could squad up with heaps of people here

[idle breach]

Im obsessed with many things

But none of it matches you sis

[dense bone]

im "obsessed" with my stats

[visual blade]

what day this month is update

[dense bone]

hell i took a picture of them before firestorm launched since i knew it was gonna fuck up my stats

[stiff sky]

so your team suffers then

[idle breach]

No

[dense bone]

why would my team suffer because of my stats?

[stoic breach]

I only started caring about K/D like two months ago so if I died I didnt care, so now I'm stuck with 11k deaths

[idle breach]

Decent spm user would just do fine

[stoic breach]

And it looks fucking stupid

[idle breach]

Not like k/d

[stiff sky]

if you obbsessded with kills then your not a team player that one guy stealing all the kills

[dense bone]

stats are not only kills

kdr is the least important stat

and least meaningful stat by itself

i care about SPM the most since its a reflection of everything you do in game

[stiff sky]

^oh thought thats all people cared about cus thats how they play

[stoic breach]

I kinda cared about both, I just want good stats

[hazy wasp]

btw the simplified Comma-rose is lame

[dense bone]

and unless you found some cheeky way to boost spm, spm is the most encompassing stat for trying to win

[idle breach]

Yeah like

Score obsessed medic

mindless revivestreak

[dense bone]

even then they are reviving

[stoic breach]

The chapter 3 weapons arent even on BFtracker

[dense bone]

thats a pretty direct way to win a lot of game modes

[stoic breach]

Where are my 680 Boys AT kills at

[dense bone]

taking away ticks and keeping numbers up

[idle breach]

Not the best tactics but still not really hurting the team lol

Or kill-hoarders

[dense bone]

i personally just try to do absolutely everything i can while focusing on taking obj

[idle breach]

Flare spammers

[stoic breach]

Flare spam is great

Also 2/3 of my Kar98 kills are headshots and its my second top weapon

[dense bone]

as long as you weave in the rest of the game they are good tactic

[stoic breach]

I have no idea why

[idle breach]

They'te just farming score but good to have as a teammate right?

[dense bone]

if its a contested area im gonna appreciate the flared targets

[idle breach]

Better than lying down 24/7

[dense bone]

granted i would flare and flank myself

[idle breach]

And you gotta go find some contested area for farming score lol

[stiff sky]

@stoic breach i just shoot the flare alot of people get pissed off its really funny. be like i have a plan shoot flare flare . be like dammit

[idle breach]

I

[stiff sky]

little hissy fits

[idle breach]

I gotta take the sleeping pil

Have a goodbday everyone

[stoic breach]

Well flares are great

Cya

[idle breach]

Cya

[dense bone]

adios

[stiff sky]

dont walk into the light. walk into the wall insead

[stoic breach]

You too have a good bday

[dense bone]

someones bday?!

[stiff sky]

cherrio

[stoic breach]

Its everyone's bday

[dense bone]

ohh lul

didnt see that

[marble phoenix]

no official patch notes yet?

[coarse thunder]

Yes

[twin current]

check #game-news @marble phoenix

[solid hinge]

oh my god

that piece of shit overpowered revolver is getting nerfed!?

unironically the best change

Really?

Like 2 headshot instead if 1?

nope

180rpm

what happened to the 5v5 mode lol

it's scrapped, i know it

they havent mentioned the 5v5 mode at all

really looks like it's not coming out

i mean, im not complaining

fuck that noise

but i have a feeling it wont go over well with the community

imo it would have been better than squad conquest

also would give like.. "hardcore" players something to do

[marble phoenix]

@twin current just saw it, good looking

[solid hinge]

5v5 mode was also supposed to come with a bunch of unique mechanics, right

like the factions

if it's getting scrapped then that was a definite waste of time

certainly looked like it was

no news of al sudwhatever

how could they mess up this bad

[midnight nimbus]

power draining the only fun sidearm

as opposed to buffing the ones people don't like bc they suck

10/10 gud job DICE

also lol @ K/D doesn't matter when kills are central to literally every BFV mode

[formal valve]

I bet they scrapped 5v5

[midnight nimbus]

most conquest ticket bleed is done through frags, not flags

[formal valve]

If they haven’t mentioned it by now

[solid hinge]

i havent seen 1 mention

imagine spending dev time developing maps just for squad vomitfest

i'd possibly take the 5v5 mode over that terrible mode

[dense bone]

capturing obj is most direct way of winning

[midnight nimbus]

bruh majority of ticket bleed in Conquest has always been through kills

[dense bone]

stats for this?

and if true thats because majority of players are kill hunting anyway

[midnight nimbus]

apparently that's what telemetry reports, and it's how conquest is designed

count up the deaths in a conquest game

[dense bone]

again, people are kill hunting

[midnight nimbus]

holding flags is designed to funnel the enemy into dying more

but ticket bleed has never been fast enough to be predominant over frags in BF

[dense bone]

numbers for this?

and again, KD means nothing

you need at LEAST KPM to gauge what KD means

[midnight nimbus]

the kills itself, maybe not, how frequently you die, yes

[solid hinge]

Can you play BFV with keyboard and mouse on ps4?

No I don’t want to do it

[dense bone]

"the kills itself, maybe not, how frequently you die, yes"
how tf does that apply to KD

[midnight nimbus]

the 1-2 player is much more useful than the 10-20 player

[dense bone]

KD = kill death

of course it considers death

[solid hinge]

Oh ok

[midnight nimbus]

of deaths matters more than the ratio

[dense bone]

5-5 vs 100-50

im gonna take the 100-50 player...

[midnight nimbus]

the truest way to measure a CQ player is # of kills that don't turn into revives vs deaths

[dense bone]

and no way to measure that

[midnight nimbus]

but consider the standard 1000 ticket 32v32 CQ game

teams average ~20 deaths per player

that's the majority of tickets

[dense bone]

i really doubt 20 deaths is average

[midnight nimbus]

especially as flag count goes up, frags become an increasing proportion of ticket bleed

actually nvm, in refractor BF, kills weren't the majority of ticket bleed

[wild jacinth]

what is wrong with this game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1QX-ChRl1k

just click video read title you dont even need to watch it

[midnight nimbus]

or at least not in 1942

[icy sluice]

Yeah kills were mostly secondary in 1942

[dense bone]

even if kills attribute to ticket bleed more than flag captures thats determined by how the game is played

[midnight nimbus]

I mean that's how conquest is designed

for frostbite BF at least

[dense bone]

according to?

[solid hinge]

i don't think i've seen a game where the team with the most caps didnt win

[dense bone]

^ also that

"thats because its designed to funnel players into dying"

its designed to get player to want to cap them since generally having more flags is beneficial to winning

and will put you in a defensive scenario which is generally easier to play as compared to attacking

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, higher caps = puts your the enemy team in a bad position

obviously you still need higher caps to win

but the majority of bleed is still done through kills

[sonic rampart]

I dont think Ive seen a game where the team with the most squads did win

[dense bone]

when people are mostly chasing kills duh

[midnight nimbus]

1/4 squads make me sad

yes, the point of capping more flags in Conquest is to make chasing kills easier

[sonic rampart]

Ive litterly joined multiple games today where there were a lot of 1/4 squads

[dense bone]

its to have more flags to cause faster ticket bleed

[icy sluice]

Hey look, it's Peter

[midnight nimbus]

rate of ticket bleed through flags is slower than rate of ticket bleed through frags

[icy sluice]

After Z it starts with Characters from another Battlefield game, I think Bad Company 2

I forgot where I saw that post tho

[dense bone]

which defaults again to ive never seen a team holding less flags win

[solid hinge]

tav I'm begging you

I cant keep looking at that

[sonic rampart]

[midnight nimbus]

yes, it's totally possible to win conquest without kills, it's just not how the game actually pans out

[sonic rampart]

Capping > killing

without capping killing is useless

[solid hinge]

28 players and 15 squads

[sonic rampart]

Imagine 32 players 32 squads

[solid hinge]

how many letters in the alphabet again

[midnight nimbus]

to say that K/D doesn't matter in Conquest

lol

you cause more enemy ticket bleed than they can cause

[dense bone]

KD alone means shit

5 kills to 1 death

wow impressive 5 kd

you did nothing

[marble phoenix]

play styles can expose K/D too

that 5 KD might be from a guy camping in a spot all match

then ima think that player aint warring like they should

[dense bone]

sound likes a 13 year old COD team that has requirements

[stone plaza]

lol you make it sound like cod is a passive game

[marble phoenix]

"MUST have 2.5 or higher to Join"

[stone plaza]

like bro in sweaty cod games you really have to work for your kills

meanwhile in BF you can kind of just shoot people in the back

a lot of the time

in modes like conquest

[sonic rampart]

[dense bone]

if you followed the topic im just poking fun that KD is a meaningful stat

KD only tells any sort of story if you consider other stats

[stone plaza]

yes, KPM

[dense bone]

KD by itself is dumb

[stone plaza]

agreed, which is why kd and kpm together are important

[midnight nimbus]

epic kill count matters

[dense bone]

winning matters

[stone plaza]

epic kill count helps you win

[midnight nimbus]

honestly, if you can't win dropping epic kill count, you weren't going to win suicide rushing the obj either way

[dense bone]

ive been in a lot of serious competitive settings (not even close to pro) and ive never been asked about my kdr

[midnight nimbus]

a team that cannot be redeemed with a high kill count farmer on their team cannot be redeemed in any way

[dense bone]

maybe that high kill farmer could play OBJ directy?

[stone plaza]

i hate this playing the objective = standing on the point meme

[midnight nimbus]

you can't kill farm without affecting the obj directly

[stone plaza]

what about if you alreayd have the point and you're stopping the enemy from getting on it?

[dense bone]

no one said playing obj is standinf on point

[stone plaza]

"maybe that high kill farmer could play OBJ directy?"

you very much implied it

[midnight nimbus]

in what scenario can you possibly rack up 70-80 kills without affecting the obj

[stone plaza]

throwing bodies at the flag without regard for your kd

[dense bone]

in the scenario where 70-80 enemies werent even at a relevent obj area

[stone plaza]

ultimately a player who goes 1kd serves as nothing but a way to speed the game up

[dense bone]

killing camping snipers at edge of map

[stone plaza]

since his own bleed and the opponents bleed are equal, short of revives

thats why kills count for conquest sweetie

it doesnt matter where they were, you get credit anyway

because killing the enemy is always worthwhile in conquest

[dense bone]

its response to kht saying how could it not affect OBJ

[stone plaza]

it does affect obj

[dense bone]

if enemy isnt even by the obj they are not affecting it

[stone plaza]

fewer players = fewer players to rush your flags

or maybe they're defending their own points

from a good position

you're acting as if the only way to play is to zerg rush

[dense bone]

or they are just off to the side camping trying to land cool headshots for their montage

[stone plaza]

or they too realise that killing the enemy drains the opposing team's tickets

[midnight nimbus]

you're not gonna rack up 70-80 kills a game picking off camping snipers

[stone plaza]

based

[midnight nimbus]

"if enemy isnt even by the obj they are not affecting it"
not necessarily

enemies moving to a new obj

[dense bone]

yes there are scenarios where they are affecting obj

but not like other players

"they killed that one dude running to E"

[solid hinge]

whats up?

[dense bone]

vs the person that went to E and killed 2 people while trying to cap it

[midnight nimbus]

also
> playing conquest

[dense bone]

@stone plaza youre implying that im talking about zerg, when if you ever played a game with me you would see me in chat telling people to stop zerging, good assumption skills though

[solid hinge]

what are we talking about

[dense bone]

how KD is a meaningless stat by itself

then it spreads onto other topics

[solid hinge]

kd isnt completely meaningless

but it doesnt really show someones skill

[dense bone]

it can only be an assumption

if i saw someone have a 5 kdr i would be impressed

but then i see them have a low KPM

basically you cant draw a conclusion with KD alone

[solid hinge]

whats the minumum spm and kpm that you think is decent

[dense bone]

people who suggest KD alone has an importance are people usually trying to pad their KD

DECENT stat wise is whatever is top 50%

[midnight nimbus]

SPM kinda depends on game mode

[solid hinge]

so i think my kpm is about 1.10? is that good?

[midnight nimbus]

based TDM is really low SPM

[dense bone]

depends what top % that is

1.1 kpm sounds pretty good afaik

[sonic rampart]

@marble cape

[solid hinge]

ok my kpm is 1.14 at top 11%

[marble cape]

say no more

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[dense bone]

yea top 11% is good

GRANTED

[sonic rampart]

gamer move

[leaden nexus]

Lol 1 kill per minute lmao

[dense bone]

this is a casual game so while you are better than a lot, i would say a lot of players are outright bad

@leaden nexus 1kpm is pretty high

[leaden nexus]

Fr

[dense bone]

it accounts for all game time

the moment the game starts

[leaden nexus]

1 kill per minute thoe

[solid hinge]

actually idk why its so low i get and average of at least 3 kills per minute tbh

[dense bone]

so while youre running to first obj for 2 minutes

that counts towards "kpm"

[solid hinge]

true

[dense bone]

youre thinking of when youre in the action what KPM is

[midnight nimbus]

man KPM in BFV is so compressed

1.1 is top 11%

[leaden nexus]

I don’t play bfv no more I don’t like it that much bf1 is great thoe

[midnight nimbus]

???

[dense bone]

how can KPM be spread out?

[midnight nimbus]

I mean KPM in BFV is just so low for everyone

[solid hinge]

yeah i spent a lot of time capping or moving on coquest but now i main breaktrough were the action is pretty much instant

[midnight nimbus]

going 2-3 KPM in BF1 felt slow

[dense bone]

i doubt anyone was going 2-3 kpm

[marble cape]

i bet you had like 5kpm kht

epic gamer

[leaden nexus]

Is bfv any good at the moment

?

[marble cape]

lol no

[midnight nimbus]

i mean a good game while tryharding in BFV is like 2-3 KPM

[solid hinge]

bfv is a good game

[marble cape]

imagine tryharding in bfv

[dense bone]

i had 2.14 kpm in bf1, and i was top 2%

[solid hinge]

stop crying ffs just because we have like 2 bugs

[marble cape]

2 bugs?!

[leaden nexus]

Who’s crying

[marble cape]

are you fucking blind

[midnight nimbus]

a good round for me is like 3 KPM

[marble cape]

omg can you sign my tits @midnight nimbus

[dense bone]

so yea, 2% of the community had a better kd than me and i doubt they were pushing 3

[leaden nexus]

I never said nothing I’m asking is it any good at the moment

[solid hinge]

the only bug i see is the invisible soldier thing and its not even that bad

[marble cape]

bruh

[dense bone]

@midnight nimbus your kpm was 1.70

[solid hinge]

i can still see them just fine tbh

[marble cape]

invisible soldier
not that bad
in a SHOOTING GAME

[solid hinge]

i can still see them the same

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 was rough :/

[solid hinge]

you should get your eyes checked idk

[marble cape]

stop shilling this broken game, you can say you enjoy it but you cant say this game isnt fucking broken

[dense bone]

dont forget kpm got fucked with firestorm

[midnight nimbus]

I was <1 KPM for a long time in BF1

[solid hinge]

never been to much buggy for me tbh

[marble cape]

You think shilling the game on this discord will give you a dice friend tag?

[solid hinge]

no

[marble cape]

good

[solid hinge]

im saying my opinion

game is decent
I just miss the operations feel from bf1

[marble cape]

well your opinion isnt correct

[dense bone]

i had 2kpm before FS that was around top 1%

[solid hinge]

idk why youre so triggered

gunplay is miles better tho

[marble cape]

because i can provide you with facts

[solid hinge]

ok

do it

btw last match i got a spm of 1000 lol

[marble cape]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/BFV-List-of-encountered-bugs-in-20-hours-of-gameplay/td-p/7160244

[solid hinge]

im talking about my experience

[marble cape]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9vclld/battlefield_vs_known_issues_list/

[solid hinge]

never had bad problems personaly

[marble cape]

ahhh now you say from your experience

[dense bone]

@midnight nimbus how was it rough when you have a higher kpm in bf1 than bfv?

[marble cape]

after i showed you how broken this game is

[upbeat vault]

i do think bfv has a bunch of bugs, but i wouldnt say broken

[solid hinge]

i know this game is completely fucking broken jeez

[leaden nexus]

Bf1 is really good thoe

[midnight nimbus]

because I spent months at <1 K/D <1 KPM in BF1 lol

[solid hinge]

im just not a fucking crybaby like the entire community rn

[marble cape]

[upbeat vault]

bf1 was a good game, but i stopped playing it solely cause of telescopic lmg's and sniper sweet spots lol

[midnight nimbus]

trying to learn how to use the AL8 35

[marble cape]

someone give this man a Best community in the world tag

[marble phoenix]

lmaooo

[solid hinge]

again, i enjoy the game way more than bf4 or bf1

and thats my fucking opinion

[leaden nexus]

I would download bfv again but idk man if I can get into it again

[solid hinge]

and if you cant be mature, you can fuck off

[midnight nimbus]

I mean it finally clicked after awhile and i started doing decently again

[upbeat vault]

i dont get any game breaking bugs playing bfv tbh

oh wow

[marble cape]

i dont wanna fuck off, i wanna stay here

[solid hinge]

ok just shut up then

if you dont like bfv then leave lol

why are you still here

[midnight nimbus]

there's other BF games than BFV 🤔

[marble cape]

gonna make a thread about me on twitter and tag braddock?

[solid hinge]

nah im not a child like you

ive got better things to do

[marble cape]

im 18 thank you very much

so no longer a child

[stiff sky]

@upbeat vault fior me not bugs just hackers that are game breaking

[leaden nexus]

😂😂😂

[upbeat vault]

worst bug ive ever gotten in bfv was it said my loadout wasn't supported, but it fixed itself in the next game

[solid hinge]

with the mind of an 8 yo tho

[upbeat vault]

see, i always see people calling out hackers in chat

[dense bone]

because they suck

[upbeat vault]

but i dont really see anything that fishy when im killed by them

[dense bone]

and cant comprehend people are good

[upbeat vault]

maybe im just tripping, but it seems like they're just killing me normally

[marble cape]

mind of 8 yo but i can still see how broken this game is

[solid hinge]

so yeah let us speak about the game like normal humans and you can go somewhere else to cry ok?

[dense bone]

i get called a hacker often

[upbeat vault]

but then again they're like 31-0 soooo

[marble cape]

lmfao i aint crying

[solid hinge]

btw yeah no shit the state of this game is in no way justifiable

[midnight nimbus]

BF community can't comprehend a >1 K/D player

[leaden nexus]

I’m looking forward to see what dice have coming in for battlefield in 2020

[solid hinge]

but i can still enjoy it just fine

[marble cape]

he agreed with me

i won boys

[dense bone]

they cant comprehend that you dont have to camp to get kills

[marble cape]

[solid hinge]

the game is broken? no shit

i never said it wasnt

im just saying that in my experience, bfv is the most enjoyable out of all i have

[marble cape]

Nine Merc Platoon Today at 9:22 PM
stop crying ffs just because we have like 2 bugs

???

[solid hinge]

2 major bugs

cause yeah like most bugs are completely minor, on ps4 at leasr

[midnight nimbus]

unplayable performance

[solid hinge]

not on ps4

[upbeat vault]

kht what do you play on

[midnight nimbus]

PC

[upbeat vault]

whats your build

[stone plaza]

who here has BATTALION

[midnight nimbus]

6700K 2070

[upbeat vault]

i dont mean to interrogate, but it may be that

oh

wtf

how you dippin then

[marble cape]

ps4

[stone plaza]

game is busted @upbeat vault

[midnight nimbus]

game plays like a slideshow on all low settings

[upbeat vault]

i play on pc with no dips at all

[solid hinge]

ps4 performance is just fine

[leaden nexus]

Bf1 until 2020 gang

[solid hinge]

for me

[upbeat vault]

im at all high, rx 590, and ryzen 5 2600x

[icy sluice]

When I dip, you dip, we dip

[upbeat vault]

this is an nvidia game is it not

you may wanna make sure raytracing is off if its really that bad

or maybe some other app is taking up a bunch of resources

[icy sluice]

So much of an nvidia game that it has an exclusive helmet

[midnight nimbus]

lol i have literally everything as low as possible in every BF game

[severe wraith]

The game is ass

Dw

[solid hinge]

ok your opinion

[midnight nimbus]

https://twitter.com/NickelBF/status/1142159406064386050 very cool when people with top tier PCs have games that look like this

Nickel 🇩🇪 (@NickelBF)

So, how do I get a consistent framerate that doesn't drop below 30 every 5 seconds? https://t.co/gXwvvFxHD6

▶ Play video

Twitter

[leaden nexus]

Bfv is ok but bf1 is still fun for me and bfv idk just wasn’t as fun can’t wait for the next battle field game thoe

[marble cape]

lmfao i thought he used slow-mo

[upbeat vault]

thats disgusting fps ahhhh

how much ram

[icy sluice]

Just download more ram

[upbeat vault]

^

[marble cape]

just download 4head

[solid hinge]

a friend of mine plays bfv on a stable 60 fps on his pc at mostly ultra settings, with some on high so yeah

[upbeat vault]

with stutters like that, it seems like its more of a ram issue cause its super clean most of the time

[icy sluice]

My fucking First Generation Xbox One plays at 60 fps

[marble cape]

Im running 16gigs and i have drops like that

the game is just unoptimized as all hell

[midnight nimbus]

i have 16GB of DDR4 and my game looks worse than that

[upbeat vault]

i never have drops like that, no matter the build

wait

im autistic

[solid hinge]

y

[upbeat vault]

i never have drops like that, no matter the settings*

[sonic rampart]

Ive missed stuff I see

[marble cape]

go back to your xbox1 smh

[midnight nimbus]

what bepis said, basically

[solid hinge]

pc mustard race here they come

[marble cape]

PC mustard race

hell yeah boy

fuck mayo

[icy sluice]

Piece of Crap Mustard Rice

[solid hinge]

adults crying on the internet about video games

[midnight nimbus]

honestly better off playing on PS4 with a xim at this point

[marble cape]

ah shit here we go again

[midnight nimbus]

so i could at least play BFH

[marble cape]

PS4 mayo race here they come

[icy sluice]

Neither Microsoft nor Sony really care about Keyboard and Mice being unfair

[solid hinge]

they only reason i have a ps4 its because its cheap as fuck

[marble cape]

congrats

[solid hinge]

pc are obviously superior

[leaden nexus]

So key board and mouse on console just shows ur shit

[icy sluice]

Sony sells keyboards and mice for the PS4 lol

[marble cape]

you can stay on ps4, we are clearly some old man who cry about the game

[icy sluice]

I'm not joking there lol

[marble cape]

we dont wanna ruin the experience for ya

MUH IMMERSION

[solid hinge]

kartov tf is your problem

[marble cape]

the fact that you have a problem with people that point out the problems in this game

[solid hinge]

dont you have something better to do than judge people by what platform theyre in?

[upbeat vault]

i would show you clips of my game running smoothly, but for some reason the videos i have are all locked at 30 fps so it wouldn't demonstrate much

[solid hinge]

your 18 ffs go get a gf

do something with your life will you

[marble cape]

dont you have something better to do than judge people by what they write on twitter?

[solid hinge]

twitter?

[icy sluice]

This product is officially licensed by Sony to be used with a PS4
http://stores.horiusa.com/tactical-assault-commander-pro-tac-pro/

[marble cape]

im just 18, i just started

[leaden nexus]

Well who ever used that is shit

[marble cape]

imagine letting them complain and let the CM (which is their job) to handle it

[upbeat vault]

there better be massive input lag when using that

[marble cape]

you are legit backseatting CM right now

[solid hinge]

what?

[midnight nimbus]

too bad xim input on console is a little wonky

still playable tho

[marble cape]

Community manager fam

[solid hinge]

yeah what about the cm

[marble cape]

Thats his job to deal with people that complain about it, not your s

[midnight nimbus]

wait, i wonder what aim assist with a xim feels like 🤔

[icy sluice]

XIM should get about 1000 updates per second

[upbeat vault]

the worse, the better

[solid hinge]

im stating my opinion

[icy sluice]

Aim Assist would probably feel like shit

[marble cape]

so am i

[stoic breach]

It would

[icy sluice]

Like, awkward levels

[marble cape]

you told me to fuck off twice now

[solid hinge]

i didnt attack anyone you started being an asshole thp

[stoic breach]

At least some games let you disable aim assist

[leaden nexus]

People are that shit they gotta use scuff controllers with paddles and keyboards and mouse

[marble cape]

Imagine stating your opinion but when i say something against you just tell me to fuck off

[midnight nimbus]

i heard overall input still feels wonky bc it's a mouse trying to emulate a joystick

[upbeat vault]

dude i cant explain how much i hate scufs

[stoic breach]

Whenever I 1v1 my friend on xbox Titanfall he uses a xim I think

[icy sluice]

Yeah you have to really tune mouse settings I imagine

[upbeat vault]

like it just gives people who can afford the controllers an unfair advantage

[stoic breach]

Xims have inbuilt acceleration shit

[solid hinge]

scuffs are bullshit

[icy sluice]

@upbeat vault Would actually cost more to put your keyboard and mouse to a console

XIMs are expensive

[solid hinge]

consoles are litterally p2w lol

[marble cape]

[leaden nexus]

U mean of

Pc

The more I doesn’t eh better ur game runs

[marble cape]

My job is done here, no more back seat CM in the world

[upbeat vault]

well yeah, but scuf's are too

[icy sluice]

A XIM Apex costs $100

[stoic breach]

P2W

Console

[icy sluice]

A controller costs $60

[stoic breach]

Wut

[solid hinge]

scuffs are p2w

lol

[leaden nexus]

Pc p2w

[solid hinge]

its a joke

jeez

[icy sluice]

I use those thumbstick things

KontrolFreaks I think they're called

[severe wraith]

How is pc pay to win

[leaden nexus]

Moreu spend the better ur games gonna run

Dick head

[severe wraith]

So what

[solid hinge]

pc gaming is complicated

not really p2w

[leaden nexus]

P2w

[severe wraith]

Damn I just asked you a question and you call me a dick head lol

[leaden nexus]

Dick head

[severe wraith]

Nice

[marble cape]

chat is spicy today

im liking this

[icy sluice]

GamerShot®

[solid hinge]

welcome to the bf community, where we all act like babies

[severe wraith]

Really high IQ member of the community

[stoic breach]

Spicy and also unintelligible

[marble cape]

Best community in the world

[leaden nexus]

Ballsack

[midnight nimbus]

lol @ scuf being unfair

you're still using a controller

[icy sluice]

I love that emblem

[severe wraith]

Acting like someone with high FPS will instantly be better than someone with decent FPS

[midnight nimbus]

that's like saying everyone should have to use a shit mouse

[stoic breach]

What even is a scuff

[icy sluice]

I think the design on my KontrolFreek thumbstick wore out

[solid hinge]

yes thank god we have people like you kartov, thats why this community is so good

[marble cape]

lmfao you mad?

[icy sluice]

Hey you guys wanna see something uncomfortable?

[marble cape]

i thought we left that topic

[upbeat vault]

homie

[dense bone]

@stoic breach scuff the gaming controller brand?

[upbeat vault]

scufs are not 60

[solid hinge]

not really no reason to get mad on the internet

[upbeat vault]

scufs are like $150

[dense bone]

scuf is basically the reason the xbox elite controller exists

[stoic breach]

$150 for a controller bruh

[upbeat vault]

deadass

yeah but its a spicy controller

it has back paddles and shit

[icy sluice]

Look at this uncomfortable thing

[solid hinge]

who pays 150 for a controller lol

[dense bone]

its basically a 3rd party elite controller

[leaden nexus]

Shit player

[marble cape]

save the turtles

[upbeat vault]

pro gamers tb

h

[stoic breach]

Yeah man

Fifa controller

[dense bone]

but it came out before the elite controller

[solid hinge]

dense gamers

[stoic breach]

You can feel the pitch

[leaden nexus]

No shit players not pro

[upbeat vault]

scufs have been out forever

well yeah but most pro players have scufs

[icy sluice]

Back buttons aren't exactly more inputs

[leaden nexus]

If u gotta but a controller with paddles to give ur self an unfair advantage ur shit

[solid hinge]

im just fine with a regular one no scuffs required

[upbeat vault]

its the same inputs on the front, but easier

[stoic breach]

@ anyone who uses scuff pedals to Bhop in Titanfall

[solid hinge]

every time I get on battlefield i have to do the prologue

for somne

[midnight nimbus]

is it an unfair advantage if it's allowed?

[solid hinge]

reason

[dense bone]

@leaden nexus thats how pro gaming is

[upbeat vault]

it was really bad during the cod days where it was futuristic jumping

[midnight nimbus]

all PC players should have to use trackpads

[icy sluice]

It's literally just buttons on the back that you can assign for buttons on the front.

[solid hinge]

if you get scuffs, youre a beta with no skills

[leaden nexus]

Yeah it’s aids

[upbeat vault]

advanced warfare? broken cause of scufs

[midnight nimbus]

you can just... buy a scuf

[icy sluice]

Tell me how a button to crouch placed differently is really unfair.

[upbeat vault]

hey man, im poor

its kinda hard to explain

like

[solid hinge]

guys

i use a slightly broken ds4 and i get like 64-9 matches so yeah

[upbeat vault]

you can do more

[solid hinge]

how come every time I log into battlefield

i have to do the porologue

[upbeat vault]

its not that broken in bf as it is in other games

[solid hinge]

prologue*

[leaden nexus]

And jump and u don’t have to take ur thumbs off the stick

[stoic breach]

What

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge probably something to do with your account

[icy sluice]

Claw Grip

[stoic breach]

Isnt that what bumper jumper is for

As well