battlefield-legacy-titles

[upper vault]

I’m just thinking how it should be

[echo glen]

a big open plain with some foxholes

[upper vault]

My god, Stalingrad would be so massive

Foxholes?

Oh.

I got it

Foxholes, some trenches here and there

So in the iconic photo of a soviet holding a flag on a building close to a big open plaza

There’s an urban cluster nearly obliterated close to it

Directly in front of that building are buildings that have been damaged but not so severely

So I’m thinking

[echo glen]

I thought that photo was taken in Berlin but ok

[upper vault]

The plaza with urban clusters around it

No, not the Berlin one

There’s a large open plaza beside the building where the flag is being waved

So I’m thinking if that plaza with all those urban clusters around it

Would make a huge map.

So Breakthrough would be the game mode made for that map

Since conquest on huge maps are just meh.

Battle of Kursk would be huge too, considering it was the largest tank battle in history,

But it would be more wide open with less urban areas

[echo glen]

Imagine frontlines

[broken steppe]

Ood

[upper vault]

Idk about Frontlines

It might work,

[bright lantern]

when is outpost coming back

[upper vault]

Not sure,

[bright lantern]

that was actually a good gamemode

[upper vault]

It was,

I liked in Mercury

[bright lantern]

yeah it was the best

[upper vault]

I never got to play Fortress

I wanna play it one day

[echo glen]

Fortress was pretty good

Though Hamada Fortress was hell

[upper vault]

The real debate comes whether the Battle of Stalingrad should take place in the late or early times.

If it’s late war years, then most fighting is gonna be infantry with some vehicles

Since supplies are running out,

[solid hinge]

tfw conquest on huge maps is not wanted in Battlefield Its BATTLEFIELD not codfield

[upper vault]

Yeah conquest on huge maps isn’t that good

[solid hinge]

thats what Battlefield is

[prime pine]

Battlefield is large scale warfare

[solid hinge]

every BF title has had it in its DNS

DNA

[upper vault]

Ik it’s about large scale warfare

But I think breakthrough works better,

It’s just my opinion,

[prime pine]

Conquest and breakthrough are very strong game modes

Nvm. Conquest. Rush and breakthrough.

[echo glen]

Conquest Stalingrad would be

[solid hinge]

fine, but this is back to the fast food analogy again .. fine you order what you like from the menu but PLEASE dont remove what I like from the menu because you dont like it

[upper vault]

Conquest would still be there

But Breakthrough shouod be a big game mode in a huge map,

[prime pine]

Breakthrough was big in bf1

[solid hinge]

then godamnit leave my huge tank maps alone .. r n we have one, panzerstorm, you have 9 others for CQB

[echo glen]

Bring back the old GO back, it would be much better

Especially the narration depending on who won or not

[upper vault]

Actually, I suggested a huge tank map, especially Kursk

[prime pine]

They tried to do something different.... But if it aint broken. Dont fix it.

[upper vault]

I’m just saying that Breakthrough would make sense

Because you’re fighting for a Sector

And the enemy team is trying to fight back

[prime pine]

Breakthrough is concentrated conquest in a sense.

[upper vault]

Exactly

I want more of concentrated conquest,

[prime pine]

Then play breakthrough

[upper vault]

Ik,

[prime pine]

Be glad you can play it. Provided you're American. Barely anyone plays it here.

[upper vault]

I’m just suggesting that we should have more large maps,

But at the same time, conquest shouldn’t be removed

[prime pine]

Al sundan conq and breakthrough look fucking NICE.

[solid hinge]

breakthrough, frontlines, rush, all well and good but a huge map should be open and not scripted, If my strategy is flanking to your rear flags and attacking from there then let me.. its like the game is slowly being whittled down to a point where all tactical thinking is removed from the game and its literally spoon fed

[stoic breach]

Al Sundan conquest makes me scared

Like

Its gonna be a massive open space

With flags on the edges

And nothing in the middle

Conquest on large maps is generally garbage

[upper vault]

I never said that conquest should be removed,

[prime pine]

Sorta like wake island

Except of a u its an o

[upper vault]

I just said that conquest wouldn’t fit a huge map that well

[prime pine]

owo

[solid hinge]

and that statement is exactly wrong

[upper vault]

It’s my opinion,

[prime pine]

Conquest fits it all

[solid hinge]

conquest is perfect for huge maps

[prime pine]

There are portions of the map you cannot play on conq tho. That is sad. But that is that.

[upper vault]

That’s your opinion,

[solid hinge]

finally I can employ actual tactics and subterfuge

mate, I have been playing battlefield since 2003, I think I know a few things

[upper vault]

I just like taking sectors more, it’s an opinion of mine.

[echo glen]

Imagine a gamemode where the attackers spawn from all sides

[prime pine]

Ugh

Not a good thought

[upper vault]

Oof,

That would be terrifying

Enemies everywhere

Surrounded,

And if they randomly get to spawn near a spawn point they might spawn kill

[prime pine]

The tigers main rounds need to be buffed.

[upper vault]

In terms of the amt of ammunition it holds?

[prime pine]

Damage versus medium tanks

[upper vault]

Oh,

[prime pine]

A 6 pounder on a valentine mk8 can royally fuck up you day cause you tank fires a bit slower than it.

[upper vault]

Like the Panzer IV

[stoic breach]

Conquest just acts like a giant team deathmatch

[prime pine]

Yeah panzer IV's pak 40 needs to deal the same damage as the 6 pounder does to the panzer

[upper vault]

I see,

[prime pine]

A churchill mkvii has no problem with a panzer iv

Which is understandable

But a tiger shouldnt have such with a panzer iv

Urgh

Valentine

[upper vault]

No wonder I see a lot of Valentines,

I agree, it needs to be buffed

In my OPINION, I think that Breakthrough on a huge map on Stalingrad with the plaza for an Operation would be great,

So you could advance through different types of warfare

Foxhole and trench warfare within the plaza

Urban warfare at the urban clusters around it

And open field warfare at the outskirts,

With a few factories around

[solid hinge]

This is Gazala from BF1942, this map is one of the better maps Dice ever made IMO, it features areas where infantry combat is key AND has a veritable maze of flanking options for both sides, and it keeps on giving immensely fun rounds of OG conquest to this day (would be somewhere near hamada in BF V geographically)

we need more maps like it

[stoic breach]

Wtf

That's gigantic

[solid hinge]

it is

perfection

[stoic breach]

It looks like the fastest way to travel is to redeploy

That looks boring as shit

Thats like the sole reason I hate conquest

[prime pine]

Wow. Im glad that i have ways to make long treks more exciting.

Simply talking to myself about past events and getting arguements with the bird makes the trek easier.

[upper vault]

Or,

Drifting in a Kubelwagen

Tbh the Kubelwagen is my transport of choice

I love riding that boi too much

Disclaimer: boi means Kubelwagen

[solid hinge]

el alamein is even bigger

[upper vault]

That’s cool.

[solid hinge]

berlin or stalingrad maps would fit into one of those squares

heres the thing though

back then and even now, the community was split between large and small maps

pretty much 50/50

map votes would rarely result in an actual map change

but the thought that one of the two groups of people would call for the complete removal of the other size of map is stunning .. cant we just have both like we always have had?

[prime pine]

This probably isnt the same dice

Plus

They put everything they could in at first cause they never thought they were going to make more

Oh wow i misread like an idiot

[sly vault]

a mode where attackers spawn from all sides? like a siege of some sort?

[gray glade]

berlin was terrible in 1942 lol

[sly vault]

would make sense in maps with cities

[gray glade]

ppl would legit spawn within a nade throw of eachother from the start

so you could nade the spawn from your spawn

[latent dagger]

There is some hotfix / fixes for PC coming soon?

[bronze grotto]

another day another chapter rank to grind

except i dont really want to today

fuck this

[prime pine]

Remember when we could earn kickass skins for dlc weapons?

What happened to that. Eh?

Provided white tiger wasnt everyones cup of tea

It was still a cool skon

[bronze grotto]

another skin for bren and mp40

zzzz

and sten lol

and enfield

give good skins for good guns pls

[prime pine]

"You guys love the same weapons right? : D"

Ugh

[bronze grotto]

napalm m1907 would have been giga nutt

[prime pine]

White tiger fg42 would be a fucking dream

[bronze grotto]

or waterproof sar

maybe like idk, the new weapons being introduced?

like agm42 gets white tiger

[prime pine]

We gotta buy the new skins

[bronze grotto]

why can't the karabin get waterproof ree

[prime pine]

Which

[bronze grotto]

fuck that

[prime pine]

Its just fucking bullshit

[bronze grotto]

giving money to a busted triple A game

[prime pine]

Cause midway i realised that they're not providing skins for dlc weapons for free anymore.

[bronze grotto]

at least bren is tolerable

[prime pine]

I dont care if they're white tiger or other shit just give us something good

[bronze grotto]

sten,stg and enfield though......... LEL

[prime pine]

Bren, and STG 44 are nice... But i have napalm for them already and they look nice enough.

[bronze grotto]

god i regret not coming back just to get napalm 1-5

skins for the rest are meh

inb4 napalm skins are for sale

[prime pine]

Ugh

These microtransactions arent the worst. But they're pretty fucking terrible.

Overpriced limited time garbage in a rushed broken product is just a pathetic joke.

[rocky verge]

to many guns gold (lossing my mind doing them)

mint (easy mode)

[opaque cipher]

Can’t even use the sight you want

Or cover bipod

Or let you customize the visuals of stuff like muzzle and stock

[sturdy osprey]

Can someone please explain how being prone with an MG is the best way to win in this game mode?

[opaque cipher]

Yes

[sturdy osprey]

And I guess these dudes avoid every engagement unless they see something they want fuck kills.

Coming soon a vid on how to be a bush licker lol

[stoic breach]

@prime pine @bronze grotto skins are decided based on popularity of the weapon

Which is stupid

Considering the AGm and Ross have White Tiger

And VGO

[bronze grotto]

enfield popular

[stoic breach]

Lol

Apparently it is

No idea why though

Its not even as good as the Commando Carbine now

Lee Enfield is just pathetic

Putting a 6x scope on is physically disadvantaging yourself

[sonic rampart]

I think the skins are based on the first guns you get for every class and the guns you get in the ToW

[brisk field]

Finally got my first tank kill with the boys

[stoic breach]

Woo hoo

Boys AT Gang

[brisk field]

1400 out of 1500 in a single life and then my game crashes

my life is truly shit

[sonic rampart]

F

[brisk field]

Why even

does life hate me or something

fucks sake

[zealous stag]

Grab a vehicle, its way easier

Any news on Al sundan?

havent been active for a few days now

[bronze grotto]

the same 4 guns being popular over and over the season though

[zealous stag]

I dont think thats the reason why the starter weapons get all the skins

[solid hinge]

STG and mp40 are miles more popular than the sturm 1-5 and the sten

and they've never given a single skin to a bolt that wasnt the lee

or.. any recon weapon

[zealous stag]

we dont even get proper recon weapons

Only one since launch

[drifting marsh]

[solid hinge]

forget those lameo guns

it's all about the p08

[stoic breach]

Selb 1906 is great but I find it too slow

Its kinda boring

Also kinda wish that the Turner was a 2BTK SLR

Makes a bit more sense considering it uses the same ammo

[celest lava]

does anyone know when Firestorm squads is getting a respawn?

[solid hinge]

20 mag 2btk gun

[stoic breach]

Just not have a 20 round mag

A 10+1 2BTK would be great for recon

Turner could've been a close range SLR

But then again all the SLRs have wonky spread decrease

RSC and Model 8 really should have faster spread decrease

They're so floaty without iron sights

I actually hope that the M1 Garand turns out to be a super melty 3-3BTK hype skill cannon

[gleaming monolith]

If the M1 Garand isn't for the Assault class I will cry

[stoic breach]

Its a strange situation

Cause it could either be a really good SAR

Or a generic SLR

And I'd prefer if it was a 3-3BTK SAR locked to an 8 round mag

[latent dagger]

no hotfix for PC soon ? this game is almost unplayable on PC

[solid hinge]

they've given up on hot fixes for the time being

delayed the regular patch to late July to try and fix everything without introducing new bugs

[gleaming monolith]

Good way too balance the Garand as a SAR would be to give it a 3BTK at every range and 1 hs + 1 body shot TK at every range and give it moderate recoil imo

[latent dagger]

well good luck with the game then , its dying anyway

[gleaming monolith]

Have you seen that post on Reddit?

[stoic breach]

Instant headshot would be broken

Oh wait

[gleaming monolith]

Absolutely

[stoic breach]

Read it wrong

Nvm

[gleaming monolith]

Lol

Np

[stoic breach]

Yeah

3-3BTK would make the Garand usable

And would act like a slightly stronger AGm

Since the AGm is basically the only skill cannon in the game

[gleaming monolith]

Isn't the AGM a 4BTK ?

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[gleaming monolith]

Haven't used it in a while

[stoic breach]

And its one of the best SARs

[gleaming monolith]

It's like a low budget M1A1

[stoic breach]

No damage dropoff and 450rpm

No its a better M1A1

You trade ammo for accuracy and better damage

[gleaming monolith]

M1A1 with the 30 rounds mag tho

[teal cobalt]

Inb4 g43

[gleaming monolith]

That's dirty

[stoic breach]

M1A1 doing low damage at range

AGm is pretty much better

M1A1 with hipfire and 30 rounds, you might as well just use a different weapon

Like an SMG or an LMG

[gleaming monolith]

I agree but I hate tanks with a passion

[teal cobalt]

Just use the 1-5 semi auto

[gleaming monolith]

Sturmgewher 1-5 m

How you spell gewher

[stoic breach]

Gewehr

[gleaming monolith]

Thanks

[stoic breach]

StG1-5 is crap compared to the M1907

M1907 is the woke AR

[gleaming monolith]

It's the sweaty bois rifle

[stoic breach]

Its just optimal

[gleaming monolith]

I used to use it with the small mag before they made it permanent

Just cause it looked better

Recoil was insane tho

[stoic breach]

Recoil wasnt even that bad

I used small mag cause I liked the boosted hipfire

And the reload speed was good enough that I could just run and gun with it

It was an unnecessary buff

[teal cobalt]

What

It was buffed?

[stoic breach]

Yeah

21 round mag by default

[gleaming monolith]

Pretty sure most people went for the right spec tree so they just buffed the mag forever

[stoic breach]

Haha

Left tree all the way

[gleaming monolith]

Which makes me sad cause it looks like doo doo

[stoic breach]

The recoil isnt bad if I burst or tapfire

Yeah

[gleaming monolith]

Ever tried it with a 3 times scope ?

[stoic breach]

Oh no

[gleaming monolith]

It makes no sense but it's actually not that bad

[teal cobalt]

Mag dumping with fast firing guns has never been a good idea

[solid hinge]

it unironically feels good with the aperture sight

it's the only gun that does

[stoic breach]

3x scope is too strong, I'm not ranging with it

Aperture is really nice cause of the tighter burst spread

[gleaming monolith]

I either go iron sights or 3x

[stoic breach]

You just pull the trigger and confirm a kill

[teal cobalt]

I play stg with Aperture sight roast me

[stoic breach]

I would just roast you for using the StG

[gleaming monolith]

Lens sight underrated

[teal cobalt]

I barely play assault and I only do to kill tanks that my rock brained team keep ignoring

[stoic breach]

Basically

[gleaming monolith]

Lmao I feel you

[teal cobalt]

“It’s fine, somebody else will kill it”

[stoic breach]

Yeah the StG-44 doesnt do enough damage to be more useful than an SAR, and doesnt shoot fast enough to be better than the M1907

And the StG 1-5 is just weird

But it is fun

[gleaming monolith]

STG is satisfying to use

[stoic breach]

It is, but its not that good

[gleaming monolith]

Also I have the Jaeger skin on it so I use it to flex

[teal cobalt]

no

[solid hinge]

it has automatic head detection

[stoic breach]

I have the predator receiver cause I'm a real G

[solid hinge]

state of the art german technology

[gleaming monolith]

Ja

Madsen when btw

[teal cobalt]

the reich stuff

[stoic breach]

Not even a 1.9x headshot multiplyer is enough to make ARs a better pick than SARs

[gleaming monolith]

Madsen shown for the first ever TOW trailer and the chapter 4 trailer but still nowhere to be found

Dice be like

[teal cobalt]

MFW the madsen would play like an upside down KE-7

[gleaming monolith]

Lmao

30 rounds tho

[teal cobalt]

Bren 2: the brenning

[stoic breach]

Madsen is gonna be great

Its a 5-5BTK ranged beast

According to the stats

[gleaming monolith]

You say that like they'll put it in the game

[stoic breach]

Its in the game

[gleaming monolith]

I know

[stoic breach]

And was in the chapter 4 trailer

[gleaming monolith]

I know that too

[stoic breach]

Well hopefully it comes soon

[gleaming monolith]

Was also in a trailer they shown before the release of the game but here we are 3 years later

No Madsen

[teal cobalt]

We’re over here waiting for the madsen, meanwhile dice have added a finger gun

[stoic breach]

Finger gun was pretty good

Not gonna lie

[gleaming monolith]

There are so many weapons ready to go but they just give us facepaints and headgears instead

[teal cobalt]

10 STK at any range? Sign me up lmao

[gleaming monolith]

Make it so we can spawn with it

[stoic breach]

Yeet

[gleaming monolith]

Limited time mode, finger gun only

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, the fact that Dice are still gonna add bolt actions with the same shitty balancing

Yuck

[gleaming monolith]

Boom, Dice hire me

[stoic breach]

Just make bolt actions good first

[gleaming monolith]

I don't mind them tbh

[stoic breach]

No they are awful

[gleaming monolith]

Are they really?

I mastered all of them and I didn't mind

[stoic breach]

In the time it takes to fire a second shot with the Kar98 you would have already killed 2 people with the Selb 1906

[teal cobalt]

Razen Are you with me in wanting sweetspots to come back

[stoic breach]

Yes

Of course

[gleaming monolith]

Ig but the SLRs are more for being aggressive

[stoic breach]

Actual sniper balance

[gleaming monolith]

Or mid range

[teal cobalt]

It’s what made bf1 sniping perfect

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Selb and ZH are the best snipers in the game

[gleaming monolith]

ZH with detachable mag

[stoic breach]

Because of the speed of the 2BTK

Yeah

[gleaming monolith]

It's just so good

Borderline op imo

[stoic breach]

Nah

Thats how snipers should act

The ZH and the rest of the SLRs should probably get buffed tbh

[gleaming monolith]

Wah

[stoic breach]

Spread decrease should be faster

[gleaming monolith]

I wouldn't want that

[teal cobalt]

I’m trying to level my recon, any tips? Other than use flares and the ZH

[gleaming monolith]

I think they're in a good state

[zealous stag]

p08

[stoic breach]

P08 Carbine

[gleaming monolith]

Nah

[teal cobalt]

oh

[gleaming monolith]

Liberator

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah dude

[teal cobalt]

Haha

[gleaming monolith]

Wait it's rank 19

[teal cobalt]

What is, the liberator?

[gleaming monolith]

A joke

[stoic breach]

Flares plus P08 genuinely lets you run into an objective

If you use smoke as well, you can just annihilate people

And the sniper role lets you spot on damage

[teal cobalt]

Cool, I’ll be trying that out next then

[zealous stag]

nah pathfinder

[teal cobalt]

Wait what

[stoic breach]

Pathfinder is great, I prefer that

[teal cobalt]

Po8 spots with sniper role

[zealous stag]

quicker spawning

[stoic breach]

But for the purpose of walls

Sniper + P08

[gleaming monolith]

Remember when they made a big deal about combat roles ?

I wonder what happened to that

[stoic breach]

Yeah p08 spots

[zealous stag]

They craped them pretty hard

scraped*

[gleaming monolith]

Yup

[sonic rampart]

^

[zealous stag]

I never change oles

[gleaming monolith]

Wasted potential

[teal cobalt]

They said it was too restrictive from play testing

[solid hinge]

pathfinder is literally useless past the initial spawn

[zealous stag]

bu thats exactly what we need

[mint dragon]

Merhabalar. Bf5 oynayan Türkler bana yazabilir mi?

[sonic rampart]

Engineer is a good role tho

[gleaming monolith]

Yeah they say a lot of bs imo

[stoic breach]

Attrition is also restrictive as well

[zealous stag]

more specified roles

[sonic rampart]

[gleaming monolith]

Like when the took the new tank skins off the armory

[teal cobalt]

@zealous stag I agree

[solid hinge]

engineer is also useless past dedicated tank repairing

[gleaming monolith]

"They might be bugged"

That's BULLSHIT for sure

[sonic rampart]

Tfw classes changed kind of every game

They combine and do stuff atleast

[zealous stag]

this bothers me the most, they change it every god damn game

[sonic rampart]

They are the Same but

[stoic breach]

Support shotguns is shit

[sonic rampart]

like for example assault and medic were merged

[gleaming monolith]

Def

[stoic breach]

Neither of the roles promote shotgun use

And do you honestly want support to rush an objective

Thats meant for assault

[gleaming monolith]

Getting mastery dog tags on shitguns is not fun

[stoic breach]

But then medics get SMGs

[solid hinge]

i think the intent is shotguns for defence

[stoic breach]

Defence shotguns

W

What

[sonic rampart]

shotguns are just annoying

[gray glade]

IE camping behind sandbags and wait for enemy to jump over?

[gleaming monolith]

Wait in a corner with a shotgun

Good gameplay

[solid hinge]

if you zoom into a room and theres a shotgun dude squatting in the corner you're gonna get blasted

[gleaming monolith]

Why do that when you have MMGs

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[stoic breach]

MMGs should also be able to ADS

[gleaming monolith]

Yup

[solid hinge]

cause you can squat!

[mint dragon]

you can wait any guns on the corner 😃

[stoic breach]

Increase use case and make them more comfortable

[gray glade]

i would preferre if they removed the delay on the mmgs

[solid hinge]

support seems pretty heavily designed as a defensive class

[sonic rampart]

Hmm

[teal cobalt]

Let’s just agree that there should’ve been 6 classes not 4:

Support
Engineer
Medic
Recon
Assault
Squad leader

[gleaming monolith]

Woah guys I thought about something that's probably gonna be controversial

Please don't ban

[sonic rampart]

Squad leader?

[stoic breach]

Well support is a better engineer in BFV than BF1

Since you always have repair tool

[sonic rampart]

Just like special ops

[gleaming monolith]

What about a premium chapter rewards pass

[teal cobalt]

True

[sonic rampart]

Or something

No please

[solid hinge]

implying they have enough rewards to do that

[gleaming monolith]

You get 40 more levels but with good ones this time and no 500"cc

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, if medics had AR, it would actually justify using them

[sonic rampart]

What happened to al Sudan btw

[stoic breach]

Assault AR is pointless because of SARs

[solid hinge]

they pushed the patch back to late july

[sonic rampart]

And whats happening with marita since its going to come mid July right

[stoic breach]

Assault should have SMGs

[gray glade]

im real suspicious of "rewards" atm, having payed 20 euros extra for the deluxe edition thingy for BFV:D

[solid hinge]

to try and fix everything at once

[gleaming monolith]

Isn't that weird btw

[solid hinge]

tfw your mp40 assault goes up against a m1907 medic and gets annihilated

[sonic rampart]

What

[gleaming monolith]

Marita not affected by the team focussing on fixing bugs

To me that just means

[stoic breach]

MP40 is shit anyways

Better to not use it

[gleaming monolith]

"Lol the map is ready but we love to dripfeed you guys lololol dice"

[stoic breach]

MP40 legit needs 0 recoil to be good

[solid hinge]

so by SMG assault you mean suomi and Thompson assault

[sonic rampart]

I guess they have diff teams for stuff

[stoic breach]

And a different damage model

Yes

[sonic rampart]

Seems better to me

[stoic breach]

Suomi and Thompson assault is pretty optimal

MAB and ZK as well

[gleaming monolith]

[solid hinge]

They might add marita earlier but it sure looks like everything's waiting for the late July patch

[gleaming monolith]

I wonder what they'll break this time

[stoic breach]

Medic AR would be great because you dont get busted infinite health CQB god medic

And then you get medics in larger open spaces and larger maps

[sonic rampart]

Tfw you’re good with a gun and you start using other guns from other classes for example and you become shite with that gun when you return to it

[gleaming monolith]

I use every gun since BF3 so I'm used to everything

[stoic breach]

Yeah, I havent gotten a single gun to 1K kills

[gleaming monolith]

Like no joke I have every mastery dog tag for every gun in every bf since BF3

Oops

[stoic breach]

But I have 16K kills

[sonic rampart]

Too lazy for that

[gleaming monolith]

That's my goal in every bf game

[sonic rampart]

I just stick to the gun I like the most

[stoic breach]

I wanna get the Boys AT to 1K kills

[solid hinge]

They seem a little desperate not to mess this patch up

[gleaming monolith]

In BF5 I just need the Trench gun, RSC and liberator

[sonic rampart]

Have like 2 guns for every class

[mint dragon]

if my team loosing i prefer play medic. If we are winning i love to play snipe. What do you think?

[stoic breach]

Unless its ZH/1906 sniper its pointless

[gleaming monolith]

I don't like snipping tbh

[solid hinge]

Im reversed

[stoic breach]

Or Boys AT

[gleaming monolith]

It's super boring

[solid hinge]

If we're winning I like playing medic because I can coast on my team

[stoic breach]

I love Boys AT sniping

Its hilarious

[gleaming monolith]

Ew

[solid hinge]

If we're losing I have to swap to recon to try and clutch it

[gleaming monolith]

SLRs ftw

[mint dragon]

i love sound when i am heatshot someone 😄

[gleaming monolith]

Ah yes

[stoic breach]

RSC is my top SLR

Yeah

[sonic rampart]

I dont

[gleaming monolith]

Mine is the Model 8

It's so good with lens sights

[sonic rampart]

I liked the sound of bf1s

[stoic breach]

The problem with bolt actions though is that they're headshot weapons in a bodyshot weapon system

[gleaming monolith]

And with the garbage 3rd person animations

[solid hinge]

(Unrevivable headshots)

[stoic breach]

The time it takes to line up a headshot can be the time to confirm a kill

[sonic rampart]

Bf1s headshot sound was satisfying

[stoic breach]

Unrevivable headshots would be nice

[solid hinge]

I get mad when I try to headshot someone who throws a grenade and it fucks their entire torso positioning up

[sonic rampart]

Lol

[stoic breach]

But then it makes people aim for heads

And when they miss they wont go for body shots still

[solid hinge]

and then they shoot me out of their armpit because the grenade throw animation is longer in 3rd person than first

[mint dragon]

this game have lots of animations.. this is shit. when i am jump, prone what ever do i want its have animations.. i hate that in his game

[sonic rampart]

When you shoot a shoulder and its a headshot 👀

[solid hinge]

Noobs dont go for body shots anyway

[stoic breach]

I mean I do, Boys AT Gang 😩

[solid hinge]

The dude who's been proning in a Bush for 25 minutes going 2 to 4 isnt interested in landing hits

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Thats the biggest problem with Recon in general though

Alot of purists would rather camp and not get a good score

Than switch to an SLR or Boys AT and be useful

[solid hinge]

they literally would be more useful with no gun and just the spotting scope

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[sonic rampart]

I hate snipers who prone in the back of the map

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

See, passive 3D spot would be based

Because of recon scopes

And the constant need to aim

[solid hinge]

If you're trying to shoot someone beyond 100 metres as a sniper you're generally better off just spotting scoping unless they're stationary

[stoic breach]

And then spotting scopes could just be a faster spot

Like the vehicle spotting camera

[sonic rampart]

Btw imagine how a modern bf game would be rn

[teal cobalt]

I don’t want to

[sonic rampart]

Why

[gray glade]

i dont htink the setting of ww2 is the issue

so had this game been modern it would've been the same

[teal cobalt]

Because if it was in the state bfv is in just now, it would still be shit

[sonic rampart]

I dont think that aswell

[mint dragon]

i miss 50 cal 😦

[gleaming monolith]

The game being ww2 probably helped

[mint dragon]

or m4a1 😄

[gleaming monolith]

Cause they were able to copy paste stuff from BF1

Like half the weapons

[stoic breach]

They should've copy-pasted the fucking sweet spot system

Literally all the bolt actions got nerfed for no reason

[sonic rampart]

But I do think that they learn from their mistakes with this game and that a modern theme doesnt really limit stuff as much as a ww2 with actual existing places as maps

[teal cobalt]

Yeah, @gleaming monolith if the game was modern, it’d have to be from scratch since the bf4 models would be über outdated

[gleaming monolith]

Eh they don't look that bad I think

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, if the Gewehr 95 and Ross had fast straight pull on every scope they wouldnt need sweetspots

Gewehr 95 for high damage and Ross for high velocity

[teal cobalt]

They’re by no means bad, just not up to scratch

[solid hinge]

Any bolt with straight pull would make the other bolts obsolete

[gleaming monolith]

True

[stoic breach]

With sweetspot that wouldnt be the case

[mint dragon]

i prefer ross rifle because of sound.. its delicious

[solid hinge]

sweet spots are LAME

[stoic breach]

Ross is nice but only with iron sights

[gleaming monolith]

Krag for reload animation

[solid hinge]

reward those head dinks

[stoic breach]

Because somehow straight pull would've been unbalanced

[gleaming monolith]

And the sound is quite nice

[stoic breach]

But the medic carbines have straightpull

Rewarding dinks is nice and all

But focussing a weapon on headshots means that bodyshots are just the worse option

[teal cobalt]

@gleaming monolith bruh you know the krags reload is bugged out the wazoo right?

[stoic breach]

But the entire weapon is the worse option

[solid hinge]

yea! That the point

[stoic breach]

Compared to other weapons

But like

Why

[mint dragon]

3 body shot need to down enemy for medics

[gleaming monolith]

They fixed it I think ? @teal cobalt

[teal cobalt]

Oh

[stoic breach]

Unrevivable headshots and sweetspots would be the ultimate sniper

That would be so fucking good

[gleaming monolith]

Haven't sniped in a while tbh

So idk

[stoic breach]

And wouldnt be unbalanced

Reward headshots and bodyshots

[teal cobalt]

@stoic breach apply for a position in dice already

[gleaming monolith]

But when I was doing the mastery for snipers the Krag was def my fav

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

[mint dragon]

last day i shot body 4 times he didnt die..

with snipe

[gleaming monolith]

That means you missed most shots

[stoic breach]

Yeah sweetspots would be so good that medics wouldnt even need to be nerfed

[mint dragon]

😄

[teal cobalt]

Oh, you didn’t know? Soldiers have +150 hp now

[stoic breach]

Since medics can cause slow bolt actions to become 3BTK

Because of infinite revive

Fuck

Infinite heal

[mint dragon]

no way bro i am sure

[stoic breach]

My phone is too slow to edit messages

[teal cobalt]

kek

[solid hinge]

even normal people can make the bolts 3btk

it only takes one bandage

[teal cobalt]

normal people
Who do you think we are

[solid hinge]

heal immediately upon shot from the krag, by the time its unscoped bolted and rescoped you've probably healed the 10 damage required

[teal cobalt]

That ain’t us chief

[solid hinge]

fuckin 54 damage on a body shot

[teal cobalt]

On the krag?

[solid hinge]

yep

[stoic breach]

On everything

Basically

[sturdy osprey]

I GOT MY FIRST V🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[teal cobalt]

Holy shit bolts are worse than I remember

[stoic breach]

Dude, when the drilling is a more optimal sniper than the bolt actions lol

"Just hit headshots"

[solid hinge]

I think the Lee and Ross might do slightly more but I'm not sure

[stoic breach]

Just use drilling

[sturdy osprey]

No camping :)

[solid hinge]

Good work Eugene

Krag also does only 50 on a limb shot

[sturdy osprey]

It was intense

[teal cobalt]

[solid hinge]

..stupid krag

[sturdy osprey]

I sniped his ass for the win

Thank you Ayla :)

[solid hinge]

54 damage on a bolt would suck even in a game where you cant start health regeneration immediately

In a game where you can it's AWFUL

so make that 60 at minimum

[teal cobalt]

Not only should Suppression stop healing, the bolts should be actually valid guns

[solid hinge]

let me poison my bullets

[teal cobalt]

yeeees

[solid hinge]

if I shoot you you slowly die from toxic

[mint dragon]

i think all snipers when you shot the enmy belly and upper, kill one shot.. no metter range

i shot his neck but he didnt die

wtf this game 😄

[teal cobalt]

Maybe not that good, but neck should have killed him

[solid hinge]

the head hit boxes are dodgy

I've shot the top of peoples helmets that were peeking over cover and got a body shot

like

i don't even understand how that happens

[mint dragon]

yeah

i hate this

i saw his only head

bot shots are body

[teal cobalt]

It’s even more “amusing” when you shoot them in the chest, get headshot hitmarkers, but deal body shot damage

[solid hinge]

[teal cobalt]

Liek if u cri evri tiem

[solid hinge]

peak amusement is having a headshot lined up but your teammate runs in front of you at the last second and your headshot only does 95 damage

[teal cobalt]

mood

[solid hinge]

what happened to collaterals

[mint dragon]

😄

[stoic breach]

I forgot

Suppression got nerfed to fuck

[teal cobalt]

AFK

[stoic breach]

Now it just spots

Thats right

Suppression was the counter to sweetspot snipers

And rainbow scope glint

[mint dragon]

lets play bf5 if we hateful enough 😄

[solid hinge]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

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[stoic breach]

I enjoy complaining about the game, but its still fun to play

[mint dragon]

i need to go. See you guys. Thanx for chat

[solid hinge]

byebye

It's really good sometimes

Which is why it's more frustrating when it isnt

[sturdy osprey]

🤗

[teal cobalt]

@solid hinge too true

[stoic breach]

A really good, quick fix for BFV would be allowing everyone to heal to 100hp

It would actually speed up the game alot

[lusty jackal]

also

why medics can spam cures is beyond me

in bf1 there was a timer between each self cure

[gray glade]

because of attrition maybe?

[stoic breach]

Medics would just need a self-heal cooldown

And ARs

[warped pebble]

Battlefield offline edition should become a reality

[stoic breach]

Thats just Ravenfield on steam

[bronze grotto]

headshot assignment for machine gun

hipfire assignment for karabin

apocalyptic hacker vs hacker squads

oh god i'm still like a bunch of matches away from next rank

did they jack up the rank up requirements even more jesus

[stoic breach]

Idk man

I still wish the Karabin only had a 6 round mag, with 10 rounds as an upgrade

Cause seriously, I would've loved if the Karabin was a melty skill cannon

[bronze grotto]

repairing tank makes the game crash too now

ok dice

[sturdy osprey]

Now that I've won firestorm I might hibernate

[bronze grotto]

for the assignment?

[sturdy osprey]

I won solos

First time

[stoic breach]

Nice

[sturdy osprey]

Yea bear the leaf lickers lol

So done with it

Beat*

Once I get my ragular status I'll post a pick of my V

6 kills not bad lol

[stoic breach]

Damn

M1 Garand could either be a 300rpm SAR or 360rpm

That would be interesting if it turns out to be a 3-3BTK weapon

[solid hinge]

it would outclass the g43 i think

360rpm with an 8 mag

considering you dont need double strip clips to reload

ping and slap

[stoic breach]

Yeah

That would be great

[sturdy osprey]

That new gun any good?

[stoic breach]

Even 300rpm or 280rpm

I wouldnt mind honestly

The reload speed could be moderately lengthy as well

Oh yeah

The Karabin is really fun

[solid hinge]

karabin is basically the g43

[stoic breach]

Like a gewehr 43 but you need to actually watch your ammo

[sturdy osprey]

Bro I'm just gonna tell you don't fw the MG42 in firestorm the recoil🤢🤢🤢🤢

[stoic breach]

I'm finding the Karabin really fun

[sturdy osprey]

Razen dont cringe at me

Lol

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

I lost first place in squads to an MG42

It sucked ass

Just bipod in a box and boom

Invisible

The high health fucks with weapon balance so badly

[sturdy osprey]

Fr lol

[stoic breach]

That the MG42, Gewehr 43 and Bren become prime

[sturdy osprey]

Why is it so bad?

[stoic breach]

The guns are designed for 100hp

[sturdy osprey]

I was prone with it and like bro lol

[stoic breach]

Firestorm has like max 300hp

Haha

[sturdy osprey]

Ohh

[stoic breach]

Gewehr 43 and Bren absolutely wreck because they have no recoil

Not enough to be an issue

MG42 bipodded can win because of the rate of fire

[sturdy osprey]

Yes true I like the epic FG

[stoic breach]

FG is really nice but lategame you'd need an entire mag to kill someone

[sturdy osprey]

Yea but you gotta be prone 🤢

[stoic breach]

Practically

[sturdy osprey]

True

[stoic breach]

Yeah Firestorm's design just doesn't fit the weapon balance

Because it prioritises accuracy over damage

Unless in extreme cqb with an AR or MMG

[sturdy osprey]

I wish they would get rid of that Vogal MG

[stoic breach]

By the end of the game

VGO?

[sturdy osprey]

What's it called

[stoic breach]

I think its the VGO

[sturdy osprey]

Yes

[stoic breach]

Its funny cause the VGO is one of the worst weapons you could possibly use as support

[warm atlas]

I disagree

It’s super accurate

[stoic breach]

In terms of min-maxing

Bipodding to gain accuracy already is pretty sore

[sturdy osprey]

Like dude the FG and Bren are the best because you can shoot without being prone like bitch lol

[stoic breach]

Its why I wish MMGs could ADS without the bipod

Yeah its nice not having to prone

[warm atlas]

Well the Bren has always been the best.

[sturdy osprey]

Poetic you get any kills with it?

[warm atlas]

What? The VGO or the Bren?

[stoic breach]

Bren is one of the best in Firestorm and is definitely a strong pick in regular MP

[sturdy osprey]

Hell yes the epic bren just destroys HA

VGO

[warm atlas]

Bren was the first gun I got gold.

I haven’t used the VGO in Firestorm

[sturdy osprey]

Dude I gotta get it gold as well it looks sick

[warm atlas]

But in Multiplayer, yes. I have a lot of kills with it.

[stoic breach]

Bren is an absolutely woke choice for Support

[warm atlas]

I haven’t used it in a while cause I’m trying to get mastery for other support guns.

[sturdy osprey]

That's my loadlout bren mg and ZH or Lee sniper winning combination

[warm atlas]

One more piece for the MG34

[stoic breach]

If you're gonna use the Lee you might as well just use the Tromboncino

[sturdy osprey]

Oh you close?

[stoic breach]

Or De Lisle

[sturdy osprey]

Well I suck with the kar98

[stoic breach]

Since the De Lisle acts like a suppressed Lee with straight pull and no scope glint

[sturdy osprey]

Or maybe it's just the gun lol

[stoic breach]

Kar98 is my top weapon

[sturdy osprey]

Yeah I didn't mean the green rarity version of it

[stoic breach]

But yeah it does suck

[sturdy osprey]

Need a blue at least

[warm atlas]

At the moment I think I have the Bren, MG42, M1922, and nearly the MG34 gold.

[sturdy osprey]

Right epic kar98 in the safe so I got nothing lol

[stoic breach]

Wtf

Alright

[sturdy osprey]

Damn

[stoic breach]

Cant wait for the M1919 to literally make the MG34 obselete

[warm atlas]

Oh I’m stoked for the browning.

[stoic breach]

But its like

I would be excited

[sturdy osprey]

S200 MG the new one I don't know it's name

They need to add it

[stoic breach]

But MMGs have ridiculously bad usage

[warm atlas]

S2-200 is awesome.

[stoic breach]

S2-200

Yeah I like that

[sturdy osprey]

yes

[stoic breach]

But again, MMGs should just be able to ADS

[sturdy osprey]

Bro do you think they will add it to fs?

[stoic breach]

Like, LMGs are great for magdumping cause they have even spread

[warm atlas]

I miss the M1917 from BF1

[stoic breach]

MMGs could be balanced differently by letting them ADS without bipods and giving them reverse spread

[warm atlas]

I did some dirty defending on operations with that sexy beast.

[sturdy osprey]

True

[stoic breach]

M1917 enfield?

[soft storm]

Just give support the minigun from TF2

[stoic breach]

Oh wait

[warm atlas]

Nah the browning.

[soft storm]

and give him the sandvich too

[stoic breach]

M1917 Browning

Yeah I liked that one

[warm atlas]

Yeah

[stoic breach]

But I just straight up preferred the Madsen over everything

[sturdy osprey]

Take out the AT boys and add the MMG

No one likes the Boys AT its ass

[warm atlas]

I tried so hard to get into the madsen but I couldn’t. Idk why

[stoic breach]

Boys AT is a woke Recon pick in the main game

I love the madsen

[sturdy osprey]

Yes in mp

[stoic breach]

Madsen Trench I used

Cause of the low hipfire spread

[sturdy osprey]

But in fs it has no scope

[warm atlas]

I was a big mag guy.

[stoic breach]

And ADS was manageable

Yeah

[sturdy osprey]

Being Gold like 🤣

[stoic breach]

I like aggressive LMGs and shit

[warm atlas]

Don’t get me wrong though, I loved using the BAR

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, thats another one that should be coming

BAR

[warm atlas]

the BAR trench was my go-to for aggressive support

[stoic breach]

That'll be a nice contender with the LS26

[sturdy osprey]

I got the deluxe edition so I better get it for freeee

[stoic breach]

Yet another great weapon in the game

Haha

Yeah, BAR will be quite exciting

[sturdy osprey]

Coming soon in Chapter V you have to earn it 🙄

[stoic breach]

Theres a big weapon balance problem in BFV though

Like why would you ever use an AR (other than M1907) when you could just use an LMG instead

They dont have good enough damage past 10m and they cant magdump like LMGs can

[warm atlas]

But for the most part I used the Chauchat, M1917, Parabellum, IMG 08/18 in BF1

[stoic breach]

Chauchat was super woke in BF1 as well

The stats for it in BFV are actually delicious

[warm atlas]

It was my most killed gun.

[stoic breach]

But alas, not available in MP

[warm atlas]

Yet.

Pls dice.

[stoic breach]

Hopefully soon

[warm atlas]

I need my baby back

[stoic breach]

I never gave the Chauchat enough love in BF1

I wanna get into it in BFV

Its a fully automatic Turner with a bipod and the ability to magdump

[warm atlas]

It was the perfect riskvsreward LMG

[sturdy osprey]

Bro I loved ballroomblitz putting those incidniary trips 🤣 in bf1

[warm atlas]

20 rounds and slow af rof. But it hit like a truck

I always wished the Benet Mercie was a little stronger.

Cause it was one of the coolest looking guns in the game.

[stoic breach]

Yeah too bad the M1909 was terrible

And yeah incendiary tripwire was the best you could use

[warm atlas]

I tried to love it

[stoic breach]

Frag tripwire didnt do enough damage

[sturdy osprey]

So what do you like about support class so much besides potentially infinite ammunition?

Razen the incidniary ones still lit his ass up and set you up for revolver finish

[warm atlas]

I’ve always been better at being slower and more meticulous. It’s a class that benefits highly from a slower push. And it’s super useful to the team

That and mowing down lines of enemies with big mag LMGs feels gooooood

[sturdy osprey]

True true

[stoic breach]

Thats why BFV shotgun support is so stupid

Support is meant to be more passive

Not aggressive

[sturdy osprey]

I thought you like hearing "Hey here's your ammo for ya". Thanks :)

[stoic breach]

Yea

[warm atlas]

Sometimes I play support so much that when I switch to assault I tap the D-pad at people thinking I’m using ammo still.

[stoic breach]

Shotgun support doesnt benefit at all from class roles

[sturdy osprey]

🤣

[stoic breach]

Its the same for me but for spot flares

Spot flares are the greatest teamplay tool in BFV

[warm atlas]

I have around 200 hours played and I still don’t have scout maxed out

[stoic breach]

Because you can practically 3D spot people

[sturdy osprey]

Recon has gotta be my favorite just love knowing where they are

[stoic breach]

Recon was the second class I maxed out

Absolutely not worth it

Kar98 is shit

[fiery pier]

Recons who don’t shoot flares every two seconds are bad recons

[sturdy osprey]

Yes it is

[warm atlas]

I think I did support-Medic-Assault

[sturdy osprey]

🤣 true

[fiery pier]

If you want to use the kar use the krag

Extra bullet with the same stats

[sturdy osprey]

Well almost got it all gold but next will be the krag

[warm atlas]

I just want the Kar because I have an airsoft version of it and it’s a pretty gun*

[fiery pier]

I have all the snipers gold and the kar was the worst one to get it

[warm atlas]

But I cba to play scout.

[fiery pier]

Five bullet slow reload

[stoic breach]

Yeah its really shitty

BFV snipers really need the sweetspot back

[fiery pier]

No

[stoic breach]

Yes

[fiery pier]

Nononononon

That is the ultimate form of being a bad player

[stoic breach]

Aiming for headshots is a stupid way to make people use bolt actions

No

[fiery pier]

If you can’t hit headshots

Don’t playbrecon

[sturdy osprey]

I agree I like the headshot

[stoic breach]

If you cant hit headshots you can be more useful by using the ZH29

[fiery pier]

That’s the gimmick of the one shot

Yes well done

[stoic breach]

Thats exactly it

[fiery pier]

Use the zh

[stoic breach]

Its a gimmick

Its stupid

[sturdy osprey]

Not the chest shot lol

[fiery pier]

Half of the things in this game are a gimmick

Attrition

[sturdy osprey]

Like bruh

[fiery pier]

Towing things

[stoic breach]

But for the purpose of weapon balance

Among other things

Bolt actions need the sweetspot

[fiery pier]

No they don’t

Git gud

[stoic breach]

Dude

The Kar98 is my top weapon

I'm not gonna argue with my own stats

I used it because it was fun, then I stopped because it was shit

[fiery pier]

We’ve got a gamer here

[stoic breach]

And cause it looks really nice

Forcing someone to hit headshots with an extremely slow weapon is stupid

[fiery pier]

Git gud

Use the lee Enfield then

[stoic breach]

Bolt actions arent skill weapons, they're time wasters

That is the worst weapon in the game lol

[fiery pier]

Yes it is

I’m not disagreeing on that lol

Outclassed by SARs

[stoic breach]

Yes

[fiery pier]

But sweetspot ruined sniping

[stoic breach]

It didnt

[sturdy osprey]

Bro in bf1 I thought I was just naturally gud but now after knowing that the recon weaponry was a fluke I'm just a big fat phony 🤣

[fiery pier]

Yeah

[stoic breach]

Who cares if you're a phony if you're helping the team

Sweetspots didnt ruin snipers, they balanced them

[sturdy osprey]

I care I wanna improve

[fiery pier]

It gave a false sense of improvement

[sturdy osprey]

Right

[fiery pier]

You aren’t good

You just hit someone between a sweetspot

[sturdy osprey]

💩 ik

[stoic breach]

If you were good enough, you didnt need them, if you werent good enough or you didnt want to spend the time lining up a headshot, you could use the sweetspot for a fast kill

[fiery pier]

But it watered down recon