#battlefield-legacy-titles

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coral fiber
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I've had no crashes, no stuttering/freezing on xbox

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I feel grateful

modern mason
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Finnaly started playing after the patch and its already fixed up

final aurora
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lol this game, our team has 3 aimbotters and their team has 1 aimbotter

coral fiber
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Haaahhaaa

solid hinge
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Sounds fair

final aurora
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it's definitely been...something today

solid hinge
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Wack

delicate violet
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Anyone know when the new elites are dropping?

analog mist
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I don't know what it is, but I just plain don't like the new gun.

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For whatever reason it feels "bouncy" to me.

cinder radish
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My new issue is i have my hit markers set to orange for hit, red for head, green for confirmed kill. But i have noticed that alot of the time i never see green and i get the kill without seeing the final x. So you’ll spray them. And they will drop and all ill see is couple x’s then the name pop up.

solid hinge
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is there literally 1 thing

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that's unique about the karabin?

orchid shore
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it's pretty much the same to other semi-auto rifles

midnight nimbus
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@solid hinge uh it does the same thing as the G43 but it's worse

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oh and has marginally less recoil apparently

orchid shore
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G43 has high recoil

midnight nimbus
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but not like the G43 has difficult recoil in the first place

solid hinge
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how is it worse

midnight nimbus
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just pull down on the mouse harder

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shit reload

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no detachable mag

solid hinge
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but it's also a 3 shot at any range

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right?

midnight nimbus
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so is the G43

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same rate of fire

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but the G43 has a detachable mag

solid hinge
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eh

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next 2 weeks are going to reward nothing

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in a way this week doesnt either

midnight nimbus
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play better BF games

solid hinge
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im burnt out 😢

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that and the competition in 4 is way higher

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i used to be top almost every game

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now i struggle like mad

midnight nimbus
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BF4 is super fast paced

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I love it as a halfway point between BF1 and something like BO4

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I don't mind scumming along at 2-3 K/D in BF4 if I'm fighting for my kills

solid hinge
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it is

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it was insanely refreshing going back

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conquest was actually exciting again

icy sluice
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Just went 47-3 because two of my teammates got out of their Valentine Tanks

midnight nimbus
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I'm not a big fan of BF4 CQ maps

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except the more infy focused DLC maps

icy sluice
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The ones called Close Quarters? Oh wait that was uhh... 3 wasn't it?

midnight nimbus
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conquest

solid hinge
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which ones

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like the north korea one?

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i fucking loved that map

icy sluice
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Oh I thought you meant Close Quarters as in the DLC ones lol

midnight nimbus
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Guilin Peaks, Pearl Market, Propaganda

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Operation Outbreak too

solid hinge
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pearl market ❤

midnight nimbus
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domination was my most played BF4 mode

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can't find it much anymore, so I'll settle for TDM

solid hinge
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i rarely saw anything other than conquest for the dlcs

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and that was like before bf1 came out

midnight nimbus
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yeah those 3 maps were my favorites for conquest though

solid hinge
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i didnt play guilin peaks much

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muh rsp

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but the other 2 were GREAT

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i miss the days of being excited to play a game

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map*

analog mist
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I miss good rush maps.

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But even if we get some I fear the mode is too high IQ for the current playerbase.

coral fiber
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Man the win 3 matches challenge is hard

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Considering im always in a team thats losing

analog mist
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I got it after 2 hours stuck at 2/3 because of steamrolls and crashes when actually winning.

coral fiber
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Last time i won a match was 2 days ago

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Still haven't crashes yet 😁

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Lost again 😒

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I haven't won a game yet today

solid hinge
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also

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in light of positivity

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im ecstatic that frontlines is back

coral fiber
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Yes i lost a game in that too

solid hinge
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keep playing

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frontlines is addicting af

coral fiber
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I played like 15 matches today i haven't won a game yet

twin current
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I'm considering buying a different Battlefield game, which one should I get? BFV is the only Battlefield game I've played

coral fiber
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4, end of dicussion

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16 matches and counting

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Ffs

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17

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Omg this challenge is impossible

solid hinge
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maybe you could switch te-

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nvm

bronze grotto
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3 win assignment?

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F

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losing 15 matches would have tilted me so bad

coral fiber
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Just lost another one
I'm done for the night

solid hinge
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Play squad cq

icy sluice
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I lost by 300 points even though I went super positive

solid hinge
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Short and easy

icy sluice
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It takes so long for Battle tracker to give a report on a match ffs

solid hinge
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@coral fiber what Game type are you playing

coral fiber
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TDM

solid hinge
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Play squad cq

coral fiber
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Ok

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Well i got lucky
I joined sq match on the winning team and the game ended

solid hinge
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Yeet

bronze grotto
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2 more chag

coral fiber
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Wow there's a squad of boy's at riflemen on the hill on fjell

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This is going to be "fun"

icy sluice
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Friend or foe?

burnt lichen
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!rank

icy sluice
solid hinge
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Wait

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What’s your gt

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There’s a bunch of boys kids in my game too

coral fiber
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That was in tdm

solid hinge
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Ah

coral fiber
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Now in sq

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2/3 now thank God

solid hinge
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There’s open spots in my game if you wanna join

coral fiber
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About to finish another lol

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Challenge is done nice

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Next one should be easy

solid hinge
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👌🏻👌🏻

twin current
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Where are BFV screenshots located?

coral fiber
faint flint
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Hey, quick question about BF4.

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Are there any infantry guns that can damage helo's?

coral fiber
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Hmmm idk

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Got the karabin and @solid hinge sure I'll join you

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My gt is GETMEMEDONLOL

solid hinge
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My game is full rn unless you wanna be on the other team 😬

coral fiber
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I'll join anyway

solid hinge
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Aight

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I don’t have a mic atm

coral fiber
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It's fine

solid hinge
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Did you get the invite?

coral fiber
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Yes

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In queue tho

solid hinge
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Oh

coral fiber
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Quantum272 right?

solid hinge
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I‘ll try to join your squad

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Yeah

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There’s a spot in mine open

orchid shore
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is it true that frontlines doesn't have a chapter xp cap?

strong parrot
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it was higher than other modes

orchid shore
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I really don't get why DICE has to add a chapter XP cap when they are selling the booster pack with the XP booster on it

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just makes DICE to be this "greedy" which at this point we already know

analog mist
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What's even the point of planes in this game.

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The second you get behind someone/behind you it's over.

solid hinge
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that's planes in bf4 also

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and bf3

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and bf2

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...and bf1

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...and bf1942

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After watching the film we were soldiers i changed my opinion about wanting a new bf based in vietnam

twin current
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Why?

solid hinge
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Prone in bushes

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Prone on tall grass

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The ending when the americans broke the viet cong forces’ line reminded me of breakthrough

coarse thunder
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Was it the viet cong or the NVA

icy sluice
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It was the NBA

coarse thunder
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Because they were wearing full uniforms iirc

tribal cairn
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NVA, because Cong were mainly guerrilla soldiers

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And weren't as organized as well

coarse thunder
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Well they were organized but not in the sense of an army

tribal cairn
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You would mainly see Cong wearing minimal protection gear with their normal clothing,

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And used ambush tactics

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Sometimes they did fight with support of the NVA, Mainly vehicles and artillery

icy sluice
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MJ passing it to Charlie in the trees

tribal cairn
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They had less training as well

coarse thunder
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Viet cong was able to launch offensives with the NVA until Tet. They lost a lot of power then but still had control of the interior of the nation

tribal cairn
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The tet offensive was supposedly the climax of the war for them at that time, with it being a total surprise attack upon south Vietnam while the citizens were celebrating

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But US Troops had made difficulty

solid hinge
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last vietnam game was Battlefield Vietnam

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assuming bad company doesn't exist

cinder radish
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I do miss air fields. But have to think this is WW2 they didnt have air fields for both teams at every conflict zone. BF2 had a air craft carrier. Cant do that here.

solid hinge
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the model version you'd want a vietnam game after is Battlefield vietnam

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also what

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oh

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yeah my username

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great kht isn't alive so I can talk about this freely

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To be honest

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engagement distances are exxagerated in Battlefield games so it makes a little sense for airfields to be at the ends of the map only accessible for planes

cinder radish
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I think the plane resupply should be higher

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Pretty sure in the alpha/beta they were up in the sky. Now they near the ground. Helps planes hide

mild coral
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That’s just to make it quicker but I understand your point

coral fiber
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Yeah

upper vault
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We need airfields for helicopters

coral fiber
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But it feels fine the way they are rn

upper vault
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Imagine controlling a B-52 Stratofortress on a long runway

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Hearing the loud engines roaring

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The immersion of the speed, weight, and vibration

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And finally

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The feeling of lift from it.

coral fiber
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I wish

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Also im in love with the karabin

upper vault
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Is that the new gun?

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Or wait..

coral fiber
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Yes

upper vault
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Oh cool.

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I wish there was a desert map

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Containing the values of both Hamada, Aerodrome, and Al Sundan

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So big that several airfields are inside

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And it could be a Grand Operation called the: Desert Offensive

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Btw I think

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Tobruk should be adDeD

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Added*

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Lol autocorrect.

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I think Tobruk should be added, also it was in the prologue

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Tobruk, Hamada, Aerodrome, Al Sundan,

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Desert Offensive

opaque pawn
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we need alaska too

upper vault
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With that update there could be a heavy bomber addition

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.

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Alaska?

opaque pawn
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In alaska a sizable japanise force was deployed i think

bronze grotto
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oh my god we have one objective left in frontlines before some cheating level 6 dipshit with his aimbot lewis starts nuking everyone

icy sluice
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inb4 we get even Grander Operations added

opaque pawn
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Alaska for pacific

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Forgotten battles

bronze grotto
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reeee this guy goes to 100+ kills in minutes and pushes us all the way back to our mcoms

opaque pawn
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if only ban

bronze grotto
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literally just strolling around with his lewis

upper vault
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I really don’t want forgotten battles anymore.

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I want famous battles

bronze grotto
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dude cheaters dont even bother quitting to hide their stats anymore

solid hinge
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serious quesiton

bronze grotto
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they know dice won't ban them no matter how often they aimbot rampage

solid hinge
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people who played played older bfs

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do you get shot in the flanks more in this game or older bfs?

upper vault
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What flanks?

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AA or AT?

solid hinge
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no i mean

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getting shot at from the back and sides

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as infantry

upper vault
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BFV.

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Not even kidding

solid hinge
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it's out of control in this game

upper vault
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I get killed more instantly.

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The MMGs spraying everywhere

solid hinge
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yeah

upper vault
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BF1 didn’t have the MMG meta

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That we have rn

solid hinge
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hillhumpers and rubble humpers everywhere

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it's not just mmgs

upper vault
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It’s like a paradox

solid hinge
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you get shot at from every direction all the time by all guns

upper vault
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Yes

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Idk why that happens

solid hinge
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it makes movement super punishing

upper vault
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BF1 was different

solid hinge
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it wasnt like that AT ALL

upper vault
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I think it’s just the map layouts probably?

solid hinge
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mostly

upper vault
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If you look at Hamada you have the bridge hotspot

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Snipers love bridges

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So much

solid hinge
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that an the poor visibility making long range hill humping and corner camping a like more powerful

upper vault
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They camp at the hillsides.

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True.

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BFV is unoptimized

solid hinge
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lack of suppression as well

upper vault
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On Xbox BF1 looks better

solid hinge
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no way to shoo off scrubby hill humpers

upper vault
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Bad Company looks better than BFV, even though I’ve never played it.

icy sluice
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Like BFV looks better most of the time, but the loading sometimes sucks

bronze grotto
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JESUS CHRIST
hackers don't even bother to hide how they can make their bullets penetrate through entire buildings and hills to instakill headshot me with their lewis

upper vault
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The loading screen should be like BF1, an entire globe

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BFV lacks atmosphere, performance, graphics, etc

solid hinge
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i dont see anything wrong with that

upper vault
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It lacks everything a game needs

solid hinge
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lewis is powerFULL

upper vault
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It is.

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A greater concept of BFV would be like this

solid hinge
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also i know i used to complain a lot about tanks being weak

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but god damn are they seriously fun destroying now

upper vault
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They are

solid hinge
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there are no long range options against them

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the faust SUCKS

upper vault
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But it needs to be balanced tbh

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So that tankers have a chance to destroy infantry

solid hinge
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and it's too hard to use at range so most people dont bother

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they're not weak at all now

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maybe if you're a bad tanker

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but if you stay a good 100m away you're untouchable

upper vault
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Maybe.

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I kinda suck at it.

solid hinge
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at least 1 had the rocket gun

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which is a laser compared to the faust

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sigh

upper vault
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BFV is literally a resistance vs arctic german soldiers war game.

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I mean look at the uniforms, they’re so bright,

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And the details are more lacking than BF1

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In BF1 I felt that there was a soldier there

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In BFV I don’t feel a human is there

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Rather an object that’s running

echo glen
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BF1's uniforms are 👌

upper vault
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Even though a human is there

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Yeah exactly

solid hinge
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yeah the soldiers actually looked like soldiers

upper vault
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BFV has the wrong color palette as someone earlier mentioned.

solid hinge
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here it's jus

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what?

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a bunch of rag tag mercenaries?

upper vault
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I was so into the German outfits for BF1

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Yeah basically it’s resistance mercenaries vs arctic german soldiers

echo glen
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the stahlhelm 😩

bleak chasm
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Hey how do I join an operations campaign in bf1

upper vault
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Press Operations

echo glen
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bf1 or bfv

bleak chasm
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There’s none in server browser

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And every time I try to join from the home screen

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It just dumps me into an empty server

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bf1

upper vault
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Probably a bug or the servers are down.

solid hinge
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look for full servers and que up

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queue*

bleak chasm
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@solid hinge I tried that

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I have only conquest and operations in my filter

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Available slots are none and 1-5

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And region is na

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All maps selected

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But no dice

solid hinge
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idk

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no dice

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haha

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it's 6 am for me

upper vault
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Seriously though, German infantry should have a simple color palette for desert maps.

solid hinge
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beyond peak hrs

bleak chasm
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I guess

echo glen
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I want my Afrika Korps!

solid hinge
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only 2 servers in bfv

upper vault
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It’s orangish, yellowish, and a bit darkish.

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Idk how to describe it

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It’s sandy.

bleak chasm
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Just that reddit said op campaigns should be easy to get in to

upper vault
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But darker

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And a bit more orange.

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Try other map slots

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I meant server population slot.

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Ugh.

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We desperately need Africa Korea’s

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Korps*

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Afrika Korps*

echo glen
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Wir sind das Deutsches Afrika Korps!

upper vault
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They should just remove cosmetics altogether and bring back simple infantry

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Standard issue Afrika Korps uniforms for desert maps

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Standard issue german uniforms

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And standard issue Arctic german uniforms.

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Is that too much to ask?

solid hinge
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yes

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because they're milking hella dollar from these crappy cosmetics

analog mist
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Can't do that friend, pReMiUm SpLiTs ThE pLaYeRbAse

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So we're stuck.

upper vault
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British soldiers look like elite mercenary squadrons with big blasting MMGs and LMGs

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They should remove the failed live service

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But they won’t

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They made more money in live service than premium would in BFV.

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Sucks to be true.

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Most stuff needs a big change.

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The Pacific update should remove the live service.

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I hope.

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But it most likely won’t.

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And what’s more funny is that the Chapter 4 rewards are resistance uniforms.

midnight nimbus
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bruh live service is necessary in modern gaming

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otherwise AAA gaming just goes broke

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despite inflation, the price of a AAA game hasn't gone up in decades

upper vault
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It isn’t necessary,

midnight nimbus
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it's still $60

upper vault
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If they gave a good first impression which they should have,

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And they put a normal premium system

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That would have been good for them and for us

midnight nimbus
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without MTX or extra payment models, a AAA game is unsustainable

upper vault
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We were fine with the current state of battlefield 1

midnight nimbus
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i don't mind normal premium system

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MTX cosmetics are better for extra revenue though

upper vault
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I really want the normal DLC premium pass system back, the live service is a failure.

midnight nimbus
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people are somehow willing to pay for skins, then so be it

upper vault
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You must know that DICE/EA is a Triple AAA game dev team not some indie dev team.

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Idk what extra revenue is needed

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Especially when people grind in FIFA

midnight nimbus
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matching your previous game's revenue isn't enough

upper vault
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EA should be rich

midnight nimbus
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gotta account for inflation, etc.

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as games get more advanced, you need more devs

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and animators

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god knows DICE doesn't have enough animators

upper vault
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If they wanted more revenue they would have made a better first impression,.

analog mist
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What DICE needed wasn't any of those.

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DICE needed more time.

upper vault
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DICE needs to listen to the community a bit more and more time indeed.

midnight nimbus
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when every other modern BF was made with 2 years dev time? pls

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BF3 done in 1.5

upper vault
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They should have enough time for BFBC3 or maybe even more time than necessary or wanted.

analog mist
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Well something went horribly wrong.

upper vault
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BFV was rushed

analog mist
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Clearly.

upper vault
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The design of BFV and the graphics are worse than BF1

midnight nimbus
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if DICE had a track record of making games in 2 years, why would EA suddenly give them 3?

upper vault
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The lighting and snow system is better because probably Narvik was the only map done within time well.

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I believe personally that BFV is an experimental game that was sacrificed for the sake of BFBC3

midnight nimbus
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i don't see how a rushed game is suddenly EA's fault when everyone knows a 2 year cycle is the norm

upper vault
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Unless

solid hinge
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in some ways you are correct, first game in frostbite 3.0, but I dont think it was meant to be disposable

upper vault
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DICE was working on Bad a Company 3 but then decided to delay it and relesss an unfinished BFV instead.

midnight nimbus
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if a teacher asks you to finish your project in 2 weeks, and you turn in a sloppy mess, it's not your teacher's fault that you were rushed

upper vault
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So it makes more sense

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That DICE took the period of the 2 years

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And developed BFBC3

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Instead of BFV

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But then a scheduling problem

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Caused BFV to be released first

analog mist
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There's no evidence of that.

upper vault
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So DICE released a trash first impression because not much content was available and everything was in a rush.

analog mist
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If you're talking about the guy with the source.

upper vault
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Well

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Idk

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I got this info from video after video

midnight nimbus
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your explanation is still an example of terrible management

upper vault
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And thinking about it

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It makes sense.

solid hinge
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theres that name BC3, BC2 made it clear there wouldn't be a sequel, I think it will be a cold war gone hot 1980s BF but with a brand new story arc for SP, remember they killed off a bunch of the BC2 crew

midnight nimbus
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and there's zero evidence of that

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lol @ YouTubers like drakesden just making shit up and putting out "leaks" on the internet

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"uhhhhhh my leaks are good, WW2 BF gonna have a FG42 and an MP40"

upper vault
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Pure speculation as LevelCap said

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It’s all theory

icy sluice
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Didn't one of these 'leakers' say "lol no wtf? this isn't going to be a ww2 game"

upper vault
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But I agree terrible management ruined BFV.

analog mist
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@midnight nimbus And when they're completely wrong "WELL ACTUALLY I MEANT....".

icy sluice
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And it's a complete 180

midnight nimbus
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TL;DR all the YouTube leakers have 20 IQ tops

solid hinge
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repeat after me kids, nostalgia in gaming is hard to execute

upper vault
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Nostalgia in gaming is hard to execute.

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Yes

cinder radish
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When is level cap 500 coming. Haha will they level us to where we meant to be

upper vault
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BF3 had its nostalgia and it’s hard to execute

echo glen
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Nostalgia in gaming is hard to execute.

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Sadly

midnight nimbus
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I mean it's very clear what made BC2 good

marble phoenix
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Only game that’s consistent is GTA

upper vault
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I just have this small hope that BFBC3 will be a great game.

midnight nimbus
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big doubt

analog mist
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I think at this point it's safe to say Battlefield is getting a soft reboot and we're more likely to get a new Vietnam than a BC3.

midnight nimbus
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I think they're more likely to double down on the BFV formula

marble phoenix
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Nah Bad Company III gonna be the one

upper vault
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Some skeptical leaks said BC3 will be released with the next gen consoles.

cinder radish
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Wasn’t a fan of BC series

quiet acorn
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I think that if we are getting a Vietnam game the trailer music will be while "my guitar gently weeps"

upper vault
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Most people want a modern game.

midnight nimbus
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gonna have more P H Y S I C A L I T Y

cinder radish
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I played them. But felt a little stupid.

quiet acorn
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I want to be in the trees

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I want to be one with the vietnamese

midnight nimbus
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I doubt that the next BF won't fall for all the shit memes plaguing FPS today

quiet acorn
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In battlefield

marble phoenix
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If we get Vietnam, they gotta have LLRPs class

upper vault
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If we DO get Vietnam, it should be optimized graphically.

echo glen
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How about near future bf like 2030s

upper vault
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Because I don’t wanna see pixels like in Twisted Steel

analog mist
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I personally can't wait for the new game to come out, so people can look back and say BFV was the best and BF[new] is shit.

marble phoenix
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No lie people bicker a lot on here

upper vault
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A tiny bit harder to execute than current day

marble phoenix
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But I ain’t heard once somebody say the graphics were bad lol

echo glen
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cough reddit

solid hinge
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there are so many conflicts to chose from than redoing a 10 year old game thats plot has reached the end of its useful life.

icy sluice
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He's talking about the optimization on it

marble phoenix
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Man what?

upper vault
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If you’re on Xbox One S on a 1080p TV which BFV is unoptimized for, then you can see the terrible 8bit graphics on Twisted Steel and Devastation.

marble phoenix
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Take this 1080p and deploy lol

icy sluice
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Graphics are fucking superb and look better than 1 but the rendering of the trees and other graphics are shit

upper vault
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Also Mercury

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Basically all maps.

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Twisted Steel is the worse of them all.

icy sluice
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Ya know, blurry and pixelated trees in the distance being a prime example

upper vault
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Xbox One X looks so much better,

marble phoenix
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Nah I get what y’all are saying

icy sluice
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I don't care about that shit I'll be honest lol

upper vault
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But I don’t have an X I have a S

marble phoenix
#

But we still got invisible soldiers running around

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But we worried about foliage

upper vault
#

It kinda bugs me, cause I can’t see a single enemy in Twisted Steel

icy sluice
#

I've been playing since Atari 2600, I don't care about graphics

upper vault
#

Thats the same issue with Xbox 3DDY

marble phoenix
#

Oh no I’m clowning you for the weak complaint @upper vault

upper vault
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BFV models are worse than BF1 but the lighting is better

marble phoenix
#

It could polished for sure, but come on man lol

cinder radish
#

I want bigger squads at leasy

marble phoenix
#

The pixelated trees? Lol

#

I do miss 5 man squad

upper vault
#

I’m just saying my opinion

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And my opinion states that BFV on the Xbox One S on a 1080p TV does not look good

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I’m not the only one saying this,

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It was one of the primary reasons why people rated it 2 stars on the Microsoft store 2 days before it was released.

marble phoenix
#

I ain’t have an Xbox since 360

upper vault
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Good for you.

marble phoenix
#

Lmaooo Damn, 2 stars on the Xbox marketplace reviews smh

cinder radish
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PC is only way.

upper vault
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Soon I will have one.

marble phoenix
#

PS4 gang, gang

midnight nimbus
#

it'll take a really really bad BF for me to look back at BFV and think "wow, this was actually good"

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and as a person who doesn't care about graphics in PVP games, i am gonna say that BFV doesn't really look that good for how poorly it runs

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I don't think it looks any better than BF1 while having much worse performance and visibility

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I mean don't get me wrong, BFV is still pretty, but BF isn't a game i play for graphics

bronze grotto
#

bf5 still randomly deciding to ctd whenever i die

midnight nimbus
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BFV looks terrible at anything lower than 1440p

upper vault
#

Exactly what I meant.

midnight nimbus
#

so hard to see shit when the whole game is blurry

upper vault
#

And on an Xbox One S it’s worse

midnight nimbus
#

I play at 3440x1440 and TAA is still problematic

upper vault
#

Some people say BFV has better graphics than BF1

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I can see where they are coming from

midnight nimbus
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it comes at an incredible cost to gameplay quality and performance

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I wish they wouldn't ban you for playing on roblox mode, bc i would go back to it in a heartbeat

upper vault
#

Do you get that feeling that the soldier is not there in BFV but it is still there

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Hard to describe

unique saffron
#

To what extent is spamming like past 30 mins is it not considered that

upper vault
#

But it’s probably the soldier details in BF1 that was superior.

unique saffron
#

I want to do fun stuff but not get in trouble

delicate violet
#

Have they given an ETA for the new elite sets?

solid hinge
#

I don't even get Bad Company 2

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it's a watered down Battlefield

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Battlefield 3 or 4 is a better template but with some changes

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Even fucking ea doesn't know why you people like bad company for the exact same reasons lmao

upper vault
#

Battlefield 4 seems great tbh, even if I didn’t play it.

solid hinge
#

There's no hope in wanting a bad company

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just hope that bf6 is a good game

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or Battlefield CoD 2 as it was called back in the day

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Yeah literally

midnight nimbus
#

i'd love the BC2 formula back

upper vault
#

I think that a Bad Company 3 campaign, but a superior Battlefield multiplayer would be fine.

midnight nimbus
#

rush and good maps made around rush

solid hinge
#

your schmick is literally cqc maps

midnight nimbus
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I don't care for any other aspect of BC2

solid hinge
#

not even a battlefield thing

midnight nimbus
#

I'm indifferent towards small or large maps

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I care about well made maps that create action

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also the most popular BF maps were always CQB maps for this reason

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there are larger maps that create action well

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but it's not common

solid hinge
#

Yes but that's because the bf community is a bunch of brainless idiots who just like to spam

upper vault
#

If large maps had small towns then it could be action packed.

solid hinge
#

you're just supposed to give that population 2 small maps like that

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not the entire map roster

upper vault
#

Spamming is terrible in BFV.

midnight nimbus
#

majority of people don't even like playing the fuckhuge maps

upper vault
#

worse than bf1

solid hinge
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exact;y @solid hinge

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kht you're not the majority

midnight nimbus
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even great tankers ik with comp experience don't like playing shit like silk road

upper vault
#

I actually like playing large maps,

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And I wish more larger maps can come with more playerbases

solid hinge
#

people have stated in the past that large and small maps were equally liked

midnight nimbus
#

running around for a minute to find one enemy is painfully yawn inducing

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big maps that force action are fine

solid hinge
#

Okay then

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why not just play metro

midnight nimbus
#

well that's what people end up doing

upper vault
#

Small maps are fine,

solid hinge
#

Then do that and let the people who actually do enjoy large maps enjoy them

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I prefer large maps.

midnight nimbus
#

good big maps exist

upper vault
#

But running around is fine with me too.

midnight nimbus
#

ones that actually make playing infy not a chore

upper vault
#

Sinai Desert had a problem where a large chunk wasn’t used

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So it was very linear,

midnight nimbus
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and make high KPM play possible

solid hinge
#

Sinai Desert was...a desert though?

upper vault
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It was.

midnight nimbus
#

yeah, the thing is that on big maps that people enjoy, a large chunk of the map ends up ignored anyways

upper vault
#

I just feel it had more potential personally,

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But it looked beautiful in terms of visual

solid hinge
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I don't know if you can prove that tbh

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sure you can point at the metro servers

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but there's only one locker server rn on PC

midnight nimbus
#

look at the maps people run 24/7 servers for

solid hinge
#

The unused area would have best fit the tanks and any vehicles while infy occupied the town.

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the rest are all maps

midnight nimbus
#

or used to run

solid hinge
#

Well, ideally.

#

It's golmud or locker

#

large and small maps

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Golmud all the way.

#

not exclusively large

#

golmud does work well for infantry though

midnight nimbus
#

Golmud was a decent bigger map bc the center flags are all clustered and people play there while ignoring the rest of the map lol

upper vault
#

What would be a big map

midnight nimbus
#

it's effectively a small map in practice

solid hinge
#

only if you're an infy player

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tanks can sideline on the edges and have battles

midnight nimbus
#

Sinai was the same way

solid hinge
#

exactly

upper vault
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Would basically be like:

A city surrounded by mountains.

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Action packed, but at the same time big

midnight nimbus
#

tanks gravitate towards the infy anyways

#

people want to kill things

solid hinge
#

I'd be on those mountains with my SRR61

midnight nimbus
#

this is why Frontlines is truly the ultimate BF mode

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frontlines uses the entire map, no matter how big

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realistically in Conquest, people like to fight over the +1 and gravitate towards popular points anyways

solid hinge
#

and it creates a focus point for all sides of the battle to focus on

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Unless a team gets landslided

upper vault
#

Oof.

solid hinge
#

conquest used to do this but the rules changed

midnight nimbus
#

frontlines makes that contested point in Conquest the only point

upper vault
#

Landslides

solid hinge
#

same old debate, tactics and teamplay vs who-can-click-faster-per-minute

midnight nimbus
#

old CQ and new CQ is no different

upper vault
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The bigger the map the more tactical potential

midnight nimbus
#

you have different scores at the end, but effectively the same outcomes

solid hinge
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@solid hinge was old CQ more linearly progressed or was it just as bad

upper vault
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3 villages in a big map,

solid hinge
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since you played older BF games back in their prime

midnight nimbus
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it was just as bad lol

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look at the BF2 CQ layouts

solid hinge
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Yeah some of them are exactly like some bf4 layouts

midnight nimbus
#

even BF3 CQ maps just ended up being questionable af

solid hinge
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golmud reminds me of daqing for some reason

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Thoughts on players idling in spawn menus until a vehicle appears?

midnight nimbus
#

also big map = more tactical is silly

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if you don't want players idling in spawn menus, don't create a shitty infy experience

upper vault
#

I said more tactical potential.

solid hinge
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I never insinuated that I just said that larger maps are better for sandbox gameplay and the large scale combat Battlefield is known for

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Battlefield is well known for large scale combat and it should cater to that

midnight nimbus
#

all more tactical potential is is increased decision making possibilities

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nothing about a smaller map denies this

upper vault
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If someone want close quarter maps, play siege.

midnight nimbus
#

realistically, a smaller map makes choosing the correct decision even more important

solid hinge
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^

midnight nimbus
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because each angle is more crucial

upper vault
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But at the same time do we expect people to make that decision?

solid hinge
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well, I would use Berlin or stalingrad in bf1942 as an example, they had some element of 3 dimensional gameplay and an opportunity to flank unseen however nothing like the wide open tactics of Gazala

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Each turn and manuever

upper vault
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Or camp at one hallway and shoot down the other.

solid hinge
#

Berlin had alot of buildings you could use to gain a height advantage IIRC

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and some pathways in between?

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not so sure

midnight nimbus
#

how "tactical" is Panzerstorm or Hamada compared to the lane-heavy Rotterdam or something like Grand Bazaar?

solid hinge
#

even by those standards, BF2142 cqc was pretty linear on small maps

midnight nimbus
#

in the smaller maps, choosing a lane to hold is a big deal

upper vault
#

But we don’t expect people to follow decisions

solid hinge
#

I think

midnight nimbus
#

in something fuckhuge, you can just stroll in at any angle, and your probability of running into nothing is tremendous

solid hinge
#

Well, we could watch some ww2 documentaries on the African theater to see the tactics @midnight nimbus

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frontlines would be the best for focusing people on one point and allowing open style gameplay then

midnight nimbus
#

who cares about irl tactics

solid hinge
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because clearly yeah conquest has problems

midnight nimbus
#

this isn't a milsim

solid hinge
#

not so much the northern strike DLC, some of those massive city maps at night remind me of the BF1 night maps

midnight nimbus
#

I care about a game that's fun

upper vault
#

But Battlefield is known for its large maps

midnight nimbus
#

bc it turns out that irl war isn't very fun

solid hinge
#

I implement any tactic I can. Some times they work.

midnight nimbus
#

nor is it very applicable to vidya strategy

solid hinge
#

I played a arma 3 session where we roleplayed as iraq against the US army

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wasn't fun

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so yes real war isn't fun

bronze grotto
#

isnt arma just proning while waiting to get shot simulator

solid hinge
#

Not really

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Well, obviously. I'm talking just the strategy.

midnight nimbus
#

because the best strategies in BF are ridiculously degenerate and have no basis on real life strategy

solid hinge
#

that's battlefield V

midnight nimbus
#

in fact, the most interesting strategies always existed in the more constrained smaller maps

upper vault
#

But vehicles will be an issue here.

solid hinge
#

I can't quite say I agree. I fooled Tiger to think my Valentine AA was knocked out by lowering my cannons.

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On Panzerstorm.

midnight nimbus
#

strategies can only get so specific and crucial when your outcomes and information are vague

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limitations often lead to better variation in gameplay

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not a coincidence that the most studied map with the most strategies developed in BF4 was Lockers

analog mist
#

My favorite german AA strat on Narvik is to blend in with the coal carts.

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It works almost too well.

solid hinge
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I mean that's true but we'll lose our identity if we focus more on CQC maps

midnight nimbus
#

if anything, Lockers is likely the most strategy heavy map in the entire BF franchise

upper vault
#

An urban large map would be good.

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City in the middle, large mountains around

midnight nimbus
#

dude infy heavy compact maps have been in BF since the beginning

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and have always been enjoyed

upper vault
#

Pathways through the mountains.

solid hinge
#

yeah but they were never really the focus

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I mean they are but you don't just neglect the large maps

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I'll admit, lockers is fun sometimes.

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because those are fun in their own right

#

this is true

midnight nimbus
#

the focus was never in making the absolute most fuckhuge map possible

solid hinge
#

Nobody's saying to make those maps

midnight nimbus
#

the focus was in making large scale gameplay work

solid hinge
#

I'm not advocating for 4km maps

upper vault
#

Halvoy was a focus, but it wasn’t for the base game so I don’t think it counts.

midnight nimbus
#

it can work in maps both large and small

analog mist
#

You folks think we'll see buildable tunnels with the pacific maps?

solid hinge
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That would be cool

upper vault
#

For some reason I think Halvoy would be good if it’s in the base game.

solid hinge
#

Fair enough

midnight nimbus
#

anyways, it was never about big or small maps, it was always about big gameplay

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maps are superfluous

upper vault
#

A flamethrower with buildable tunnels? Oh yes.

solid hinge
#

big gameplay?

analog mist
#

Halvoy is mostly dead space.

solid hinge
#

Closest may be trenches..but I doubt it @analog mist I mean, we can't even built trenches now

upper vault
#

It they implement a special game mode for it

midnight nimbus
#

dead space isn't worth having

upper vault
#

Besides Battle Royale

midnight nimbus
#

use as much or as little space necessary to create a good 64p experience

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that's what BF has always been

upper vault
#

Halvoy has its small spaces and large spaces

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Urban areas, tight spaces, open areas, mountains, forts

solid hinge
#

Hmm yeah

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Halvoy a BFV map? Can't remember.

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any examples of large maps which convey it?

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can't really think of any

midnight nimbus
#

halvoy is the epitome of questionable BF map design

upper vault
#

Halvoy is a dead space because of the game mode probably

solid hinge
#

I've seen 50 bajillion shitty halvoy designs

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they all suck

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and very few of them have actually made a map

midnight nimbus
#

I think Fao Fortress, despite being a shitty map, used its space well

solid hinge
analog mist
#

Not really.

solid hinge
#

thats the map I was trying to remember

midnight nimbus
#

Lancang Dam is an excellent map

analog mist
#

2 of the flags basically didn't exist.

solid hinge
#

Silk road is also pretty fine

midnight nimbus
#

used everything pretty well given the vehicles at hand

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silk road is some of the biggest dogshit in BF

analog mist
#

Putting any time into holding the fort generally meant you lost the game.

midnight nimbus
#

not even tankers love it

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infy gameplay was awful

solid hinge
#

I thought it was fine

midnight nimbus
#

you're better off memeing around trying to get hand flare kills

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it's <1 KPM as fuck

solid hinge
#

Firestorm is probably one you were thinking about

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that map has a giant refinery

midnight nimbus
#

Golmud is decent

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because no one cared about the empty space

upper vault
#

Halveder In Halvoy is an example of urban area btw.

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Well not that urban

midnight nimbus
#

halvoy has some of the least variety in combat areas I've seen in BR

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epitome of useless space

upper vault
#

Actually

solid hinge
#

Halvoy is like skyrim

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a bunch of villages with empty space in between

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but no mountains

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Actually it would work for a TES map tbh

upper vault
#

I think I think Halvoy does a better job than the Evangel map in PUBG.

midnight nimbus
#

not a high bar

solid hinge
#

Halvoy is set over a large region but it doesn't match the surrounding region

midnight nimbus
#

creating the impression of size is more important than having actual fuckhuge map area

upper vault
#

For some reason, idk why, I used more tactics on Halvoy than the standard maps.

solid hinge
#

normally you use worldmachine to make larger areas

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they used the terrain brush with an erosion tool for halvoy

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It doesn't look right

upper vault
#

Yeah it does look a bit too extreme

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Feels odd

#

But then again it isnt bad at the same time

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And it’s a very interesting map

midnight nimbus
#

large map size is only a means of creating gameplay where vehicles and infantry can coexist

upper vault
#

Would like to see it in the base game one day.

solid hinge
#

isn't operation firestorm a map which is essentially just flat land

midnight nimbus
#

yeah it's fucking awful

upper vault
#

Operation Firestorm?

solid hinge
#

but you have mountains for the snipers, refineries for the infantry, and large areas for the tanks

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designated sectors of the map

midnight nimbus
#

people complain about hillhumping snipers but ask for maps that enable it OMEGALUL

upper vault
#

Which maps had the best maps in Battlefield do you guys think?

solid hinge
#

Project Reality

midnight nimbus
#

the worst maps in BF were probably beach landings though

solid hinge
#

wait that's not a BF game

#

fuck

midnight nimbus
#

ensue nightmares of getting spawn trapped by PLDs and Javelin missiles

upper vault
#

Which BF3 map was great?

midnight nimbus
#

Grand Bazaar

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Seine Crossing

solid hinge
#

the only landings which wouldn't be that are the al faw landings from the iran-iraq war but that's literally because the invaders took the beaches when there was nobody there

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that's the only example of a beach landing map which would work

midnight nimbus
#

Noshahr TDM is obv a legendary BF map/mode in general

#

well if you have a map where you can stroll up straight to the beach safely

#

might as well have the attackers spawn on the beach safely

solid hinge
#

and overtake the small amounts of attackers currently there

upper vault
#

So many Iran maps in BF3 not a single Iran team

solid hinge
#

the biggest dissapointment

upper vault
#

Ikr.

midnight nimbus
#

why would there be small amounts of attackers on the beach?

solid hinge
#

that's how the real life battle happened

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lmao

midnight nimbus
#

in BF, you'd just have the full 32p team spawn waiting with Javelins and PLDs

upper vault
#

Kharg, Nowshahr, Caspian Border, Ziba Tower

solid hinge
#

I'm saying only in that instance it would work because you wouldn't have many casualties as the attacking team

upper vault
#

Tehran invasion,

lunar bone
midnight nimbus
#

I'm talking about vidya

analog mist
midnight nimbus
#

don't particularly care for the realism argument

solid hinge
#

@upper vault pretty sure canonically the Iranians sided with the russians and just don't appear in multiplayer

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since that would happen IRL

#

the iranian army does appear in the campaign

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the campaign is a piece of shit

analog mist
#

Like, not putting a flag in an indestructible hanger only accessible from 2 directions.

midnight nimbus
#

yes, irl the Muslim country would team up with the country who doesn't like their religion

upper vault
#

I see.

solid hinge
#

iran has ties with russia

coarse thunder
#

Geopolitcs man

solid hinge
#

that's pretty much it

coarse thunder
#

Worst enemies are best friends in some aspects

solid hinge
#

moreso than the US and russian-iranian relations are good

midnight nimbus
#

well I guess nowadays, they're kinda forced to

upper vault
#

Iran has great terrain for maps

coarse thunder
#

Hell Greece got military tech from Turkey. If that's possible then anything is

upper vault
#

Mountains, salt marshes, lakes, seas, cities, villages, forests

#

You name it

#

Islands,

midnight nimbus
#

I'm exhausted from the military setting

solid hinge
#

pretty sure the real reason why iran was never a faction is because nobody would like them or something

upper vault
#

Oil fields

solid hinge
#

I would like them though

midnight nimbus
#

I don't want any more maps with an ounce of rubble or a single random fire on the ground

solid hinge
#

military setting?

#

you mean war torn setting?

upper vault
#

Imagine a Caspian Border map where oil fields would be below your feet as you’re flying on a F-18 .

solid hinge
#

lol

upper vault
#

At early dawn

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Flames rising from the oil fields

#

Surrounded by mountains.

midnight nimbus
#

I miss the largely pristine civilian settings of Hardline 😦

solid hinge
#

Yeah war torn settings sucked

#

Always a bitch to make too

midnight nimbus
#

also the problem with the military setting

#

realism boomers want authentic layouts

solid hinge
#

those suck IRL

#

It depends really

upper vault
#

A civilian setting with the ability to be turned to rubble is something necessary.

midnight nimbus
#

turns out militaries don't pick battlefields for their fair gameplay experience

solid hinge
#

Well

midnight nimbus
#

quite the opposite is true

solid hinge
#

in games like Squad teams are forced to use their tools against the terrain as an advantage but In Battlefield it's a bad idea

#

because noone actually plans

midnight nimbus
#

have you ever played a BF where everyone plans everything?

solid hinge
#

nope

#

never

analog mist
#

I use TNT to make little coverholes all the time.

solid hinge
#

except for Project Reality but that's a realism mod

midnight nimbus
#

I have played in completely coordinated/competitive settings

#

it's really not a very fun game

#

at all

#

it was constant abuse of all the most cancerous strategies in BF, which really is a chore

analog mist
#

I even go out of my way every game on Rotterdam to blow up the other teams bridges at the start.

solid hinge
#

are you talking about

#

spamming the Q button

midnight nimbus
#

when people want super tactical and coordinated gameplay, they don't really want it

solid hinge
#

because everyone doing that at once sounds like cancer

midnight nimbus
#

no, comp settings have no 3D spotting

solid hinge
#

good

#

as god meant it to be

midnight nimbus
#

it's not necessary with full voice comms

#

and everyone knowing each others call outs

#

both of which are impossible in pubs

#

anyways, every game in 32s was just initial spawn bomb

#

you win a 1000 ticket CQ game off the first 30 seconds of action

upper vault
#

What would be the first terrain layout to come to mind if we were to think of a great potential map?

#

Mountains, salt marshes, rivers?

midnight nimbus
#

terrain abuse ends up being really unfun for the receiving end

solid hinge
#

Well I'm designing a squad map

upper vault
#

Towns, cities?

solid hinge
#

Yeah a mix of that

midnight nimbus
#

and really boring for the stomping end

solid hinge
#

towns cities, plains in between

#

but squad is a different game

#

so

analog mist
#

Dieppe.

upper vault
#

A salt marsh lake and mountains around it

#

The battle goes from the mountains to the salt marsh, back to the mountains again

solid hinge
#

@upper vault I'm actually working on an iran-iraq war squad map

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based off of operation nasr

upper vault
#

Oh wow

#

That’s awesome.

midnight nimbus
#

wait do squad players ever do max play to win strats on Conquest?

solid hinge
#

uses the US and the Russians to represent the iranians and the iraqis

upper vault
#

I see.

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Is there no Iran Iraq teams in squad?

solid hinge
#

you need to mod that in

midnight nimbus
#

advance and secure seems like a kinda based game mode

upper vault
#

Oh.

solid hinge
#

not alot you can do with UE4 squad modding because it's blueprints

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no C++

upper vault
#

Oh, interesting.

midnight nimbus
#

squad honestly has better game modes than BF

solid hinge
#

it does

upper vault
#

I mean it is more realistic,

solid hinge
#

Advance and Secure is like frontlines large

#

sorta?

midnight nimbus
#

bc conquest doesn't seem like the most popular mode

#

based

solid hinge
#

the maps are massive though

#

like 4km

upper vault
#

Conquest is basically capture the flag.

solid hinge
#

but the same principle of AAS applied to battlefield could work

midnight nimbus
#

conquest is domination super large without any of the stuff that makes domination work

bronze grotto
#

why does bfv decide to randomly crash every match

solid hinge
#

huh that is true

#

even the random spawning to an extent

#

with BFV it's even more random though

midnight nimbus
#

holy fuck squad maps have so much wasted space

solid hinge
#

no boundaries in squad

midnight nimbus
#

like you have decent linear modes with frontlines

solid hinge
#

it's because in Squad you build fobs and shit

midnight nimbus
#

but then a ridiculous amount of the map is unused

#

like why would you ever consider going that far from objectives

upper vault
#

It’s actually interesting to see that Digital Combat Simulator is adding Iran maps to future updates

solid hinge
#

well players build bases which act as team wide spawn points and so you can have them build these bases anywhere for flanks

#

also

midnight nimbus
#

so why wouldn't you just build a spawn point by their uncap and spawn kill their vehicles?

solid hinge
#

vehicles spawn from base

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it's a very slow paced shooter

midnight nimbus
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yeah, why wouldn't you just spawn kill vehicles? it's slow paced enough where you can get away w it

solid hinge
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They have base protection

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which battlefield fails to have

midnight nimbus
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you can just wait until they step right out of base, couldn't you?

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base protection doesn't make a huge difference in your explosive placement

solid hinge
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That does happen in quite a few instances

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but also bear in mind that maps are fucking huge

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we're talking 4km

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wait lemme give an example

midnight nimbus
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you can get banned from servers for TK right

solid hinge
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yeah

unique crater
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DICE gibs good helmet
750 Boins
NotLikeThis

solid hinge
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TKing is pretty frowned upon and it gives you negative points anyways so

bronze grotto
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what helmet

midnight nimbus
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oh RIP $40 is too expensive

solid hinge
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if you do ever buy it never stay behind a rocket launcher

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NEVER

unique crater
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That new epic one with the red cross

midnight nimbus
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I guess you can just do the siege style grief

unique crater
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Helmet looked cool

midnight nimbus
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less funny tho

solid hinge
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so when one dude's using the RPG don't stand behind the exhaust

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you get hurt

midnight nimbus
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if you die, does it count as them TKing?

solid hinge
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yep

midnight nimbus
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epic

bronze grotto
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get backblasted on purpose ez

solid hinge
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this is basra

unique crater
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tfw you about spawn in a tiger and the match ends

solid hinge
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can't really effectively spawncamp

midnight nimbus
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10/10 troll proof gameplay

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wait do they have punish systems?

upper vault
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Do you die if you stand and shoot an RPG

midnight nimbus
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punish system was my favorite thing about BF4

upper vault
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Instead of crouching down?

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Like getting knocked over.

solid hinge
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Squad is an indie game so probably no

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it's up to admins

midnight nimbus
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I can just jump in front of teammates and kill them

upper vault
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I see.

solid hinge
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and the community is pretty reliable because it's just 3k people online

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that's fairly large considering insurgency is 1k playing the game

upper vault
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Squad and Arma are pretty good games

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But which one would you consider?

rich ember
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Frankly i don’t understand why people find Arma fun.

solid hinge
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Squad is getting helis and you can actually communicate so I would recommend it

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Just be aware you'll hate it for the first 20 hours but after that you'll like it

upper vault
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Arma is considered fun for the teamwork probably.

solid hinge
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Arma is fun with friends from my experience

midnight nimbus
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I only play games with TK to TK people

upper vault
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Arma is basically PUBG but a war type.

midnight nimbus
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why I'm asking

upper vault
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You run around for a good amt. of time

midnight nimbus
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lol pubg was built around arma

solid hinge
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if you have 4 or 5 friends and one dude who knows how to set up zeus you can have some nice pVe campaigns

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in arma 3

rich ember
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Having to deal with servers who do ultra milsim role play doesn’t seem that fun from what I’ve heard

upper vault
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Arma 3 however has a hill issue

solid hinge
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multiplayer is probably cancerous and I hope one day we nuke all the altis life servers

upper vault
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Hills appear lower than they are from a distance.

solid hinge
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It does?

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never really noticed it

upper vault
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I was watching a milsim YouTuber play it, and it seems like so.

solid hinge
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also if you drive over teammates in squad they just roll over and get incapitated

upper vault
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You can’t shoot them but you see them.

solid hinge
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I was bullied like this by some dude in a logistics truck

midnight nimbus
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YOU CAN INCAPACITATE YOUR TEAMMATES

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this is epic

solid hinge
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yes but they dont die

stoic breach
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What game

midnight nimbus
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even better

upper vault
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Squad

solid hinge
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you can kill them with normal guns though

midnight nimbus
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you don't get banned

stoic breach
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Oh no

solid hinge
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I mean you can get kicked

midnight nimbus
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and you can endlessly incapacitate them

solid hinge
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and people can boot you from their squad

rich ember
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@midnight nimbus you probably will get banned at some point

unique crater
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Jesus christ DICE, some team balancing would be wonderful

rich ember
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Also you seem like a dick.

unique crater
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10v21 on Breakthrough, 10 Defenders

upper vault
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Lmao.

bronze grotto
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when the enemy team has over 32 players

solid hinge
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kht I hope you buy squad run over some people with your apc and then run over a russian landmine and die

midnight nimbus
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not worth $40 just to troll people

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BF4 hardcore servers are good enough

bronze grotto
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10 vs 38