battlefield-legacy-titles

[inland valley]

yes

[solid hinge]

or whatever he's called

so that's why it's called al sudan?

because you play as a black guy

[inland valley]

the city i think is sudan

[solid hinge]

tirallur is from sudan

[inland valley]

yes

and

[orchid shore]

at this point

[muted socket]

no i mean like if u join a game in session and ur teams losing by a decent amount

[orchid shore]

just delay the december content and make operation health over there

[solid hinge]

that would be a sound idea

if the game had enough content to begin with

[inland valley]

ok opereation lardex

[solid hinge]

they delayed it so far up so they could patch the game

but their patches break the game

it's just

ugh

[orchid shore]

I joined R6s around Operation Health and while I didn't know what was happening it was fun

[quiet ingot]

honestly

[solid hinge]

r6s sucks

it doesnt have sudan

[quiet ingot]

the lack of global voice chat is so upsetting

every game should have global voice

like csgo tdm

or mw2

[solid hinge]

that era is gone lol

[inland valley]

why does it break the game tho ?
if you make a patch shouldn't it be checked before it released

[solid hinge]

dont ask me

ask dice

[quiet ingot]

nah just takes a dev w/ the vision to do it

csgo, pubg, h1, all had it

[inland valley]

i would like that too

but its too optimistic

tbh

[solid hinge]

eh

i dont like voice chatting ingame

the only time my mic is ever on is on accident

[orchid shore]

tomorrow I might set up a post how DICE could've made operation health possible

[solid hinge]

and believe me ive had embarrassing moments

[quiet ingot]

can't tell u how many times i literally teared up laughing due to some shit i got into with someone on live comms in H1

[solid hinge]

I hate listening to in game chat

[midnight nimbus]

fixing your problems requires knowing what they are first

[quiet ingot]

so opt out

[solid hinge]

same

i have my audio settings so that all ingame chat is auto muted

[midnight nimbus]

I don't care for in game chat either

[solid hinge]

Also when ppl invite you to their firestorm parties 😖

[orchid shore]

firestorm is dead???

[midnight nimbus]

imagine 63 people yell at the same time

epic

[solid hinge]

god no

it could be ok if it's proximity

[orchid shore]

i really hate this one assignment that you get from the tides of war reward

[quiet ingot]

golden age of CSGO TDM matches where ppl would reenact scripts from movies, ppl shittalking each other in H1, china number 1 in pubg lobbies, the good stuff

[solid hinge]

but i still would have evyerhing muted

[inland valley]

people in game chat call be stupid

[midnight nimbus]

I don't see proximity being that helpful either

[inland valley]

so idk about it

[quiet ingot]

it just makes stuff more social

and ppl can opt out

[midnight nimbus]

VOIP requires you and your teammates sharing the same call outs

[inland valley]

plus in EU you cant always get people speaking english

[orchid shore]

at this point just readd 3d spotting

[midnight nimbus]

BF does not have universal callouts like other games

[solid hinge]

Proximity works in games like Arma but I’d only imagine kids screaming in bf

[orchid shore]

you got 3d spotting

[quiet ingot]

nononono

no 3d

[orchid shore]

but thats gone

[midnight nimbus]

finally people understand why 3D spotting was intelligent

[solid hinge]

b-b-but suppression

[orchid shore]

shoutout to the people who abused it

[solid hinge]

b-b-but pinging

b-b-b-but voice chat

[inland valley]

no i want lego transformers CREO DOESNT COUNT

[midnight nimbus]

language agnostic and instantly understood

[quiet ingot]

played like 3 hours of bf1 last night

was just blindfiring into smoke bc of spotting

[midnight nimbus]

and?

[formal crane]

but but but ayla is my mom

[quiet ingot]

got hits like 33% of the time

that's a dumb mechanic

[inland valley]

nice

[midnight nimbus]

don't see how that's problematic

[solid hinge]

im sure that was never intentional

[quiet ingot]

lol ok

[midnight nimbus]

you still have to aim at the dots

[solid hinge]

i think dice talked about spotting through smoke being an issue

[midnight nimbus]

not like it does the aiming anyways

[solid hinge]

they just never got around to fixing it i guess

[inland valley]

REMOVE SPOTTING ENTIERELY

[midnight nimbus]

and yes, all they had to do was make smoke break spots

[quiet ingot]

it's literally wallhacks

[solid hinge]

i think it actually works in bfv

[quiet ingot]

i dont know why ppl need the wallhacks

[solid hinge]

ive had many people in my flare just disappear when they're in smoke

[inland valley]

cos they noobs

[midnight nimbus]

to make callouts to the 31 other people on your team

how the fuck do you coordinate with a team in a team based game without communication

[quiet ingot]

being spotted by one jackass shouldnt give 31 other ppl position

thats dumb as shit

[solid hinge]

They should switch killcam to after bleedout

[inland valley]

yeyeyeye

[midnight nimbus]

the only thing spotting needs is counterspotting

[solid hinge]

yeah but not only 31 players are a threat to you

not all*

[midnight nimbus]

you should know if you're spotted and have ways to break it

that's it

[inland valley]

UAV
COUNTER UAV

makes sense

[strong parrot]

shoot the red triangle everyone!

[solid hinge]

the soldier shouts should be louder

[inland valley]

yes

[solid hinge]

in bf1 i'd sometimes hear the enemy soldier shout me out

[midnight nimbus]

people pretending like spotting doesn't require you to aim at the enemy

[inland valley]

That's a bitch ass medic

[solid hinge]

if they made a mechanic where you'd always hear that no matter what

hmm

[quiet ingot]

or....u can spot, gives rough position of the enemy, and thats a shitload of info for u and ur squad

[solid hinge]

They should make the spotted symbols over ppl 12x larger so you can’t see shit

[inland valley]

casseta medica

[solid hinge]

noch mehr erste Hilfe intensifies

[strong parrot]

why look for the enemy when you just look for the 3d spot

[inland valley]

i hear that sometimes in my sleep

[midnight nimbus]

what's wrong with having to look at the 3D spot

[solid hinge]

idk how people could still defend v's lack of 3d spotting

[quiet ingot]

because it increases the skill gap

[solid hinge]

when it plays like sloggy shit compared to the last games

what skill gap

how are bfv players skilled

What’s skill

[quiet ingot]

o lol

ok

[solid hinge]

you think players are just going to decide to get better?

[inland valley]

RBD

[solid hinge]

they'll just flock to whatever is easiest and establish a meta

[quiet ingot]

this is a productive and intelligent argument to engage with

[midnight nimbus]

skill is the most magical of words

[strong parrot]

look at 3d spot vs looking at the soldier youre going to shoot at

[inland valley]

lelelelelele

[solid hinge]

Your mom is a productive and intelligent argument to engage with

[midnight nimbus]

ViSiOn iS sKiLL

[solid hinge]

i also dont see how 3d spots diminish gun skill

[inland valley]

SAND IS SKILL

[solid hinge]

you still have to shoot the guy under the dorito

[quiet ingot]

lol

[solid hinge]

you just know what to shoot better

[quiet ingot]

ok

[strong parrot]

guess you didnt play any of the games with it in it

and shoot through bushes smoke etc...you know shit you couldnt look through to see the enemy but thanks to your handicap 3d spot you could hit them

[inland valley]

guys mortar is skill ok like you need to press the button

[midnight nimbus]

yeah plenty of good visibility shooters out there

why disclude people without naturally great vision

also spotting and visibility are two separate things

[solid hinge]

or bad tvs

ie me

[quiet ingot]

if they have naturally shit vision im pretty sure their aim will be shit too

[midnight nimbus]

spotting is for making callouts

[inland valley]

feels bad man

[midnight nimbus]

if you spotted someone hiding

they probably suck at hiding

you do have to point within a decently tight cone to spot them

[cursive quartz]

ive been at it for 2 hours

cant destroy boats

with rocket guns

[inland valley]

bruh

[solid hinge]

What boats

[cursive quartz]

any kind

[solid hinge]

bf1

?

[cursive quartz]

ye

[solid hinge]

Oh

i remember that assignment

[cursive quartz]

for the m12/p16 machinepistol

[inland valley]

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

[midnight nimbus]

farm it with a friend

[cursive quartz]

uhh

[solid hinge]

Alternatively

Don’t do it

[cursive quartz]

no

[solid hinge]

[cursive quartz]

i need it

[quiet ingot]

that gun sucks balls man

[cursive quartz]

i know

[solid hinge]

excuse me

memepistol is a good gun

[cursive quartz]

but im trying to get all guns

[inland valley]

well maybe he want to use it

[quiet ingot]

well

[solid hinge]

best ttk out of all non ohk weapons

[cursive quartz]

that are still available

[quiet ingot]

matters whose balls u suckin

could be a good experience

u nvr kknow

[inland valley]

balls sucking sounds

[solid hinge]

Stop

[midnight nimbus]

just use the experimental

it's better anyways

[inland valley]

german medic best k ?

[cursive quartz]

i need it tho

[solid hinge]

play tuti maps

What if I told you

[quiet ingot]

pretty sure the automatico is the best tkk

[solid hinge]

You don’t need it

[quiet ingot]

dont @ m

[solid hinge]

nope

[midnight nimbus]

automatico is on the slow side

[quiet ingot]

u hwat

[inland valley]

autimsatico is a joke

[solid hinge]

memepistol fires at the same rof and kills in 1 less shot

[cursive quartz]

whats the fastest?

[solid hinge]

memepistol

out of all the smgs it's the fastest

6 pdr cannon has a fast ttk

[cursive quartz]

no

in the whole game

[midnight nimbus]

iirc Hellreigel and Automatico kills on the same frame

[tribal cairn]

Maschinenpistole1918?

[solid hinge]

probably the memepistol

[tribal cairn]

It's got 900rpm I think

[cursive quartz]

besides the one shot shotguns/snipers

[midnight nimbus]

yeah p16 is the fastest

[inland valley]

noob saibot got the most ttk

[midnight nimbus]

just use the experimental

[quiet ingot]

honestly the spread in bf1 is so enraging. i keep trying to use the Fake Tommy's Gun and the bullets literally dont shoot where the iron sight is, even tap firing. dumbest shit ever

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 is pretty low spread

[cursive quartz]

it used to be 1200 rpm if im not mistaken

no

its the deviation

[midnight nimbus]

just a ton of visual recoil on a lot of guns

[cursive quartz]

when you are getting supressed

[midnight nimbus]

use a screendot

[tribal cairn]

I use the experimental, it actually works pretty good at long range engagements

[cursive quartz]

your bullets are less accurate

[solid hinge]

ah yes the visual recoil

[midnight nimbus]

bruh suppression spread is lower than BF3/4

[solid hinge]

When someone is suppressing you

fedorov had cod4 ak47 syndrome

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 suppression really isn't very strong

[cursive quartz]

with lmgs it it

is

[quiet ingot]

man

[midnight nimbus]

you can pace straight through it with semis

[quiet ingot]

cod4 was a cool game

[cursive quartz]

but not many other guns

[quiet ingot]

back in the day

[tribal cairn]

BF4 has the strongest suppression

[midnight nimbus]

no

BF3 was the strongest by far

[inland valley]

dmr flashbacks

[solid hinge]

didnt bf3 have insane suppression?

as in you couldnt hit a damn thing at all

[tribal cairn]

Oh yeah..I forgot about that..

Ouch..

[inland valley]

it had too much blu

[cursive quartz]

bfv is so dumb

[midnight nimbus]

you could suppress people in CQB in BF3

[quiet ingot]

thats why every dumbass engagement took place within like 20 meters

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 removed that

[cursive quartz]

you cant spot

it pisses me off

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 pretty much axed midrange suppression too

[solid hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPP5OHk5s6w

[quiet ingot]

bf3 was basically a COD TDM server except on a huge map with vehicles

[solid hinge]

look at that

look at that suppression

you pretty much had no chance

[cursive quartz]

yeha

that looks crazy

your screen is all blurry

[quiet ingot]

and ur bullets dont hit shit

dumb mechanic

[solid hinge]

BTW speaking of blur

[quiet ingot]

that one song of theirs was decent

back in the day

[midnight nimbus]

suppression was based

[solid hinge]

My character has a mini seizure every time a tank blows up in bfv

[cursive quartz]

i mean if you are getting bullets shot at you, you are obviously gonna be more shaky

[quiet ingot]

it should just be aimpunch like csgo

[cursive quartz]

but it isnt arma we are talking about

no

[quiet ingot]

any mechanic where your bullets arent going where the reticule shows is just a bad mechanic

[midnight nimbus]

omg

[cursive quartz]

you just explained csgo

[midnight nimbus]

literally just W A S D

[stoic breach]

Thats how BFV is now though isnt it?

[midnight nimbus]

that's the point of suppression

shooting back isn't effective

so WALK AWAY and shoot from elsewhere

[quiet ingot]

someone getting first shot on you shouldnt mean that they retain an XBOX HUGE advantage on u for the fight

means no counterplay

[midnight nimbus]

it's forced relocation

[cursive quartz]

bfv is broken that way

[midnight nimbus]

there is counterplay

it's called using your left hand instead of your right

[solid hinge]

It depends on the situation

[midnight nimbus]

if you're stuck in a position where you can't move, that's your fault

[solid hinge]

^

[midnight nimbus]

you picked a bad position with no easy out

[quiet ingot]

if u shoot me and i can react quickly enough to shoot u and kill u after u have first shot on me, i should be able to do that

suppression is a dipshit mechanic

[midnight nimbus]

dude suppression won't make you inaccurate after first shot

[stoic breach]

I feel like alot of things werent really explained well to the player sometimes

[cursive quartz]

i usually only shoot from cover

[quiet ingot]

suppression in bf1 is pretty much first shot

[midnight nimbus]

it takes awhile before it actually increases your spread enough to make shooting back hard

no its not

[quiet ingot]

O OK 2ND SHOT

[midnight nimbus]

iirc it's like ~10 shots

[quiet ingot]

its definitely not

[cursive quartz]

since bf1 has ttk on the slower end, you can easily react

[midnight nimbus]

maybe less depending on proximity to head

[cursive quartz]

but games like bfv

[solid hinge]

you know what

[cursive quartz]

where ttk is quicker

[quiet ingot]

played for 3 hours last night, got suppressed all the time by shots that literally didnt hit me

[solid hinge]

im gonna buy bf3

is it on steam?

[cursive quartz]

no

origin

[midnight nimbus]

if you're getting suppressed super fucking fast, they're like all headshots

[solid hinge]

fuck

[quiet ingot]

well if youre peaking its going to be head shots

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 suppression is pretty weak

[quiet ingot]

and if youre playing smart youre peaking

so...

[solid hinge]

Then don’t peak

[midnight nimbus]

well maybe don't peek???

like your position is blown

WASD elsewhere

[solid hinge]

Or maybe peak somewhere else

[midnight nimbus]

move up closer

suppression doesn't work in close or midrange

[cursive quartz]

ok but remember killing airplanes with lmgs

[quiet ingot]

peeking, getting shot at (NOT HIT) should not mean that my accuracy goes to shit automatically

[solid hinge]

Alternatively you can charge them with your melee weapon

[quiet ingot]

i cant believe ppl are defending that

[solid hinge]

It’s a flawless strat

you're probably going to die anyways lol

[quiet ingot]

do u guys play no other fps other than bf bc no other mainstream game has this mechanic and for good reason

[midnight nimbus]

if you get suppressed and you can't shoot back... your reflexes and acquisition honestly suck

like it takes awhile for suppression to build up enough to destroy your accuracy

[solid hinge]

Suppression is great

[cursive quartz]

it really depends on the game

[midnight nimbus]

after the first few bullets, you can easily whip around and kill them

or just play BF1 medic

[quiet ingot]

@midnight nimbus dude you literally argue in bad faith every day

this is just dishonest

[midnight nimbus]

you can shoot straight through suppression

[quiet ingot]

like completely and absolutely false

u cant

[midnight nimbus]

just by pacing

BF1 medic is literaliy designed to enable you to shoot straight through suppression

just click slower

[cursive quartz]

supression should be there tho

but not bf3 level

[midnight nimbus]

all suppression does is double your recoil, double spread increase, and add a double figure 8 sway

[cursive quartz]

to the point where you cant hit shit thats 10 meters away

[midnight nimbus]

literally all of these things are counterable as a medic

[quiet ingot]

i dont play medic

so

ok

[solid hinge]

Suppression doesn’t mess with your aim in bfv

Suppression doesn’t mess with your aim in bfv

Suppression doesn’t mess with your aim in bfv

Suppression doesn’t mess with your aim in bfv

Suppression doesn’t mess with your aim in bfv

What

[quiet ingot]

@solid hinge talking bf1

[solid hinge]

That’s interesting

[midnight nimbus]

literally only recon and support are affected by suppression

[quiet ingot]

pretty sure in bfv suppression is 100% visual, i play with settings on all low and am never suppressed

[midnight nimbus]

heavily at least

[solid hinge]

Bf1 had long ttk tho

[quiet ingot]

i main recon

[midnight nimbus]

then literally WASD

[solid hinge]

Easy counterplay

[cursive quartz]

just move to get out of supression

[midnight nimbus]

use the perk that reduces suppression

counterplay is so ridiculously easy

[solid hinge]

Isn’t that called not getting shot at?

[midnight nimbus]

like gitgud

[cursive quartz]

does bfv have any competitive standpoint

like bf3

[solid hinge]

Dear god I hope not

[midnight nimbus]

given how they have to ban everything from t8 SQCQ, no

unfortunately

[cursive quartz]

bfv is wierd

its not bad

but its not good

[midnight nimbus]

also none of the top comp players care much

[cursive quartz]

so what bf are they staying with?

1?

[midnight nimbus]

they play other games

[cursive quartz]

oh

[solid hinge]

What are comp bf players lol

[quiet ingot]

^

[cursive quartz]

its a small community

[thorn heart]

Chapter 4: defying the odds of actually being a redeemable game

[midnight nimbus]

look up the BF4 ESL scene

[quiet ingot]

"comp" "bf"

lol

lol

[solid hinge]

Lol

[midnight nimbus]

there were actual jackpots

[quiet ingot]

of what

[midnight nimbus]

incredible FPS talent

[quiet ingot]

like

coupons?

[midnight nimbus]

tens of thousands of euros

[solid hinge]

Refer to my previous lol

[midnight nimbus]

like not enough to cover a full time salary

[quiet ingot]

pretty sure if they were that good theyd play CS instead

[midnight nimbus]

but hey, you get to play something at the highest level

I mean a lot of those guys have been pretty successful playing other games

[cursive quartz]

cs isnt super good like everyone says

[midnight nimbus]

but they loved BF

[cursive quartz]

cs is the same thing over and over again

i got to dmg and quit

it was a dumb game

[quiet ingot]

@cursive quartz all i can say is that playing a shitload of CS made me better in every other FPS. no other FPS likewise had the same "makes u better at every other fps" effect

[midnight nimbus]

ESL BF4 was actually a pretty interesting game that's pretty different from other FPS games

[solid hinge]

Dark Souls is a game of true skill

[cursive quartz]

cs is very good in mechanics

[tribal cairn]

My first dark souls game so far is Dark Souls Two: Scholar of the first sin

[cursive quartz]

aim heavy, positioning, etc

but its boring

[solid hinge]

DS3 is my fav by far but all are good

[tribal cairn]

I think DS3 retains the difficulty of the previous installments, but it's mechanics make it somewhat easier to fight stuff

[solid hinge]

Ppl do some wack shit in dark souls like make controllers out of bananas and circuits and beat the game

[tribal cairn]

But still make it quite challenging

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, CS might be the current "muh ultimate fps skill" game, but it's really not that interesting tbh

[cursive quartz]

its so repetitive

same spots, same tactics

[tribal cairn]

I could never get used to the spray control on that game

[solid hinge]

falls into the cave of Darkeater Midir

Camera pls

[midnight nimbus]

high level BF was just a really interesting game to watch

and play

[inland valley]

tru

[midnight nimbus]

it's pretty varied

and given those guys' abilities to succeed in other games, it's not an issue of a lack of talent

sad to see great players genuinely want to invest in BF and get driven out

[solid hinge]

Do most ppl use the reflex sight in the Thompson

[orchid shore]

finally

level 22 for my ToW rank

tbh I want to take a break until next week reward

been grinding too fast actually

[soft storm]

Just do it

[orchid shore]

might oh well do it since DICE can't fix the game at all

[soft storm]

This game gets better the less time you play it

[upper vault]

I gave up grinding on week 2

[solid hinge]

dice wont fix anything unless they start to earn less money.

Simple

[upper vault]

Waiting for the better reward

[soft storm]

I’ve found a new respect for the indie dev who cares for his game

[upper vault]

Weapon reward on week 3

[orchid shore]

can't wait for that weapon

[upper vault]

There’s a game dev called Vladimir and he made a space exploration game, but dang, he created a procedural generated universe with tons and tons of Star systems, blackholes, wormholes, etc, all by his own from SCRATCH.

And it was all for free

[orchid shore]

next XP reward if you do all assignments is 81,000 XP

[upper vault]

No microtransactions, nothing.

[orchid shore]

I'm going to take a break

[upper vault]

I wish I had a PC

On Xbox BFV looks pixelated.

[orchid shore]

next week gives you 81,000 XP if you do all the assignments for next week

[prime pine]

2 more days of this helll and we'll have a new semi auto matic since Dec.

[upper vault]

I feel as if I’m playing an 8bit game when I’m in Twisted Steel.

[prime pine]

Or janu

[orchid shore]

EZ rank up

[prime pine]

Hang on the MAS was a thing too. Forgot about that.

[upper vault]

Once I get a PC I will start grinding hard on BFV

[orchid shore]

been lately using the P08 carbine and I was actually doing fine with the gun

[upper vault]

I just can’t stand these Xbox issues

[orchid shore]

honestly thought that the P08 carbine sucks

[hollow dagger]

hello

[prime pine]

It sorta does but it doesn't entirely. If that makes sense.

[stoic breach]

The P08 carbine is one of the best Recon weapons in the game

👽

[hollow dagger]

how are player

[orchid shore]

only if you manage to use your trigger-friendly hand

[prime pine]

Looking forward to the C96 Carbine.

[hollow dagger]

can show me a your point in battlefield

[prime pine]

If the p08 aims for hip fire then the c96 should aim for better ADS accuracy and shi.

[hollow dagger]

?>>>>>

[orchid shore]

I'm just going to wait for a hotfix on Thursday for PC

[hollow dagger]

I AM PC AND XBOX GAMER

[orchid shore]

[prime pine]

Been sucked in to Hollow the past... Week?

It's a good game. Especially for wasting time. xD

[hollow dagger]

how many buy original battlefield

[stoic breach]

I forgot about the C96

[prime pine]

Honestly. I would play with the sawed off shotgun if it was released.

It felt so much faster and nimble to use in bf1.

[orchid shore]

I was planning to buy BF4 because I have premium for my account right now but I heard that there were not many servers left

[hollow dagger]

I HAVE ORIGINAL BATTLEFIELD

[prime pine]

I would arm it on my assault and charge them motherfuckers with it. But that's only the few times i bothered with Assault.

[upper vault]

No

Well

Idk

[hollow dagger]

😄

[upper vault]

BF4 is still the most played game

And I wanna buy BF4

Badly,

[hollow dagger]

I LOVE BATTLEFIELD 3

[upper vault]

But I’m afraid that air superiority servers don’t exist

So I can’t get the UCAV

[grand haven]

I did it, I started redownloading BF4.

[prime pine]

Ohhhhh

[upper vault]

I never bought BF4, I want to now

[stoic breach]

I'm pretty sure Air Superiority is dead as fuck

[prime pine]

I see.... Even though you want it. The UCAV isn't worth it.

[hollow dagger]

ONE SHOT ONE HIT

[upper vault]

That’s pretty sad, I don’t want to miss a single weapon on BF4

Oh.

It isn’t?

[stoic breach]

I wanted to play Metro 2014 and get the F2000 again in BF4

[prime pine]

Its flying is awful

[stoic breach]

I had it on 360 but the fucking dlc didnt come over

[prime pine]

The explosion and delay of it is too long

[upper vault]

Well,

[prime pine]

They nerfed it into oblivion

[upper vault]

I like unlocking stuff tbh,

I just hope it will be alive,

The last time I checked there was like 4 servers left with air superiority.

I have hope that BFV will become good,

But till then I’m gonna only unlock weapons

[orchid shore]

imagine playing ace combat OST in battlefield when dogfighting

[upper vault]

Melees, idc really

[prime pine]

"Die you fucking bastards!"

[upper vault]

Not Battlefield V

Battlefield 4

Sure

Since ace combat is modern.

[prime pine]

That bayonet charge quote is stuck in my head....

I should re download bf1 and get to rank 150 being honest.

[upper vault]

Battlefield 1 had a great a e s t h e t I c

[prime pine]

I got 999 K worth of XP left. I can do it.

[upper vault]

Bf4 seems very fun,

If I get a chance to play

And PLUS BF4 isn’t pixelated like BFV

[orchid shore]

It is really than BFV

[prime pine]

I don't like bf4 being honest. I lost interest after they did that massive balance patch.

[upper vault]

That’s how bad BFV is on Xbox rn,

[orchid shore]

massive customization, not to mention more maps

[upper vault]

The amt. of maps

God,

[orchid shore]

I don't know what they did to the massive balance patch

[upper vault]

BF4 seems great

Battlefield had a fine formula of DLC unlocking,

They shouldn’t have changed it to live service

[prime pine]

It was some change with vehicles and shit

I forgot how long ago it was being honest. Been too long.

[upper vault]

Even though I was excited for life service, but the way they implemented it has brought disaster.

[prime pine]

It was why i played BFH more often.

[orchid shore]

I know there was spring patch for BF4 that changed the gun meta

[stoic breach]

The base maps of BF4 and BFV both mostly suck

I wish I could've played Hardline

[tribal cairn]

I never played hardline

[prime pine]

Hardline was great..... As a support/Enforcer main.

It seriously fucking was. I hit top 3 in Australia with battle rifle kills.

[upper vault]

You see, the only way to revive BFV as I see it is the Pacific

If they release that pacific expansion

And bring hope

They will revive the game

If they don’t bring hope and bring more bugs,

More delays

[prime pine]

They need to fix their game before they release the pacific theatre.

[upper vault]

That is true,

I don’t know why BFV has to be this rushed

[stoic breach]

Remove attrition 😩

[prime pine]

By so far. Such a thing doesn't seem too straight.

[stoic breach]

That'll fix the game for a start

[upper vault]

Al Sundan can’t even run on Conquest for some reason.

[stoic breach]

It can now apparently

[prime pine]

Cause their priorities for money are way above an actual working product.

[upper vault]

They should remove tides of war and assignments, and bring the original weapon unlock assignments.

[orchid shore]

Blame on EA

[upper vault]

They did tides of war because it’s more profitable if you think about it

[prime pine]

They could just release two weapons per wee.

week.

[orchid shore]

Live Service > Premium

but clearly EA is doing it wrong

[upper vault]

If weapons are timelocked, cosmetics are time and paylocked, etc, etc

[stoic breach]

It would be if that ex-dice dude didnt call people uneducated

[upper vault]

It’s more profitable.

[stoic breach]

And tell people not to buy the game

And then if Firestorm was free

[upper vault]

Patrick Soderland?

[stoic breach]

They could sell boins

Yeah

Patrick Soyderland

[upper vault]

I think it was him.

[orchid shore]

R6s is a live-service game and yet it's doing great when it comes to releasing content and allowing users to buy stuff with in-game money

[upper vault]

Terrible first impression brings even more terrible results.

[orchid shore]

Meanwhile, EA and DICE are like "so we isn't going to make these stuff for free and making our users buy boins"

and out of the way make the game buggy

[stoic breach]

Cosmetics dont even need to be free really

[fossil tinsel]

Tides of war is a mess. People feel forced to play differently and play certain game modes.

[upper vault]

They really lied but covered it up,

[orchid shore]

For elites, sure they don't need to be free

[upper vault]

Not even kidding,

[fossil tinsel]

Most people just like to grind with their favorite class or weapons

[upper vault]

Epic outfits shouldn’t be paylocked.

[tribal cairn]

I think cosmetics should be for company coins as well and not just for boins

Not epics,

[orchid shore]

It's that epic outfits that really shouldn't be

[tribal cairn]

But most rare outfits

[stoic breach]

DICE needs to make the money back on BFV but they also have to work against the Frostbite engine itself

[upper vault]

They followed a fortnite strategy

[stoic breach]

Epic outfits could've just been 300

[upper vault]

Only thing that’s missing is a battle pass.

[stoic breach]

There is a battlepass lol

[upper vault]

Which will destroy all hope if it gets added

Oh wait

[stoic breach]

Its Tides of War

[upper vault]

Oh yeah

[orchid shore]

watch this next major patch they release they going to add a epic skin that cost both CC and boins just like what they did with the tank skins

[upper vault]

And the fact you can pay to boost awards

Yeah

[stoic breach]

Who cares about paying to boost rewards

[upper vault]

Fortnite is the major influence

That caught the eyes of EA

[stoic breach]

There are no gameplay features for Chapter Ranks

[orchid shore]

"Buy this Booster Pack to receive 20% XP boost for your Chapter Rank"

[upper vault]

Fortifications were also probably inspired by fortnite

[fossil tinsel]

I like fortifications

[orchid shore]

don't forget that CC are also in the tides of war rewards

[upper vault]

I like them too,

But they took time

[stoic breach]

Fortifications are much better than attrition

[upper vault]

Time which could have went for other content like maps

[orchid shore]

and we need every CC if we want to keep our weapons upgrading

[upper vault]

bfv doesn’t have an atmosphere

Apocalypse dlc had a great atmosphere of chaos and no hope

[stoic breach]

BFV doesnt have a good colour pallete, as I've come to understand

[upper vault]

The trailer for the Apocalypse DLC is so great.

[fossil tinsel]

It’s blue basically

[upper vault]

Well

BFV has a bright color palette

[stoic breach]

Apocalypse also technically only had 3 maps

[upper vault]

Ik

But the trailer

[stoic breach]

BFV has a really dark and bland colour pallete

[upper vault]

It had a great first impression

I thought it had a bright one?

[stoic breach]

No

[upper vault]

If it was dark it should look like Bf1

[stoic breach]

Narvik being white isnt bright

Because its white

[upper vault]

Look at the Battle of Hannut

[stoic breach]

Players look like rocks alot of the time

[upper vault]

In BFV

Nighttime is really bright,

[stoic breach]

Actually

Somehow

Night Hannut has better visibility than alot of the maps

[upper vault]

Mercury is bright as well

If it was dark

It should be more like BF1

Yeah it did

But other night maps in BF1 look darker than nighttime in BFV.

I believe.

Nivelle Nights,

That one urban nighttime map I forgot the name of

[stoic breach]

It's probably the player lighting and colours that suck

In BFV

[upper vault]

True

[stoic breach]

Cause players can consistently camp cause they look like rocks

[upper vault]

BFV is not photorealistic, probably.

I don’t know, the graphic feels weird

BFV soldiers don’t have life to it unlike BF1, I don’t know how to describe it

It doesn’t feel like a person is there,

But it is there, it just doesn’t feel right

Unlike BF1

[stoic breach]

BF1 has really detailed player models that let you know who you're fighting

As well as just generally looking good

[upper vault]

True

I mean look at the hand sizes

They have got smaller in BFV

and the overall soldier size has become small

[stoic breach]

And the head size

[upper vault]

Yeah.

The best way to fix this for the next battlefield

Is for DICE and EA to abandon their methods with BFV

use the same format as BF1

and try to make a Modern game out of it

Or they could use the same format as BF4 and make Bad Company 3 out of it

Premium pass which unlocks all the DLCs

You can unlock weapons at your own pace

Tons more maps

More content

[stoic breach]

Premium with free maps

[upper vault]

Wouldn’t the DLC already have the maps in it?

[stoic breach]

People do clearly spend money on cosmetics

[upper vault]

They do,

But they should remove it,

Bring back normal infantry

[stoic breach]

What for

No weapon cosmetics

[upper vault]

I meant soldier cosmetics,

[hollow dagger]

wait

[upper vault]

Specifically.

But weapon cosmetics, hm.

[stoic breach]

Premium weapons and cosmetics

[upper vault]

they need to work on cosmetics which will take up time.

They should just remove soldier cosmetics then.

[stoic breach]

Its basically like using company coin to buy common and rare skins

And needing premium to gain access to epic skins

The cosmetics arent made by the same people who make maps

Its not an indie studio

Although it might as well be

[upper vault]

It feels like an indie studio

[stoic breach]

With how BFV is going

[upper vault]

With the content they released

You can tell that the whole team was split into 2

With majority of the team working on BFBC3

Or BF6

And the small portion with BFV

[stoic breach]

Yeah probably

[upper vault]

I hope it’s true

[stoic breach]

BFV could've been really good

It basically plays like a boomer game with how slow it is

[cursive quartz]

bfv has no content in it

[ionic thorn]

how do we get to level 500 or is that not released yet

also all fax in this server rn

[cursive quartz]

like <10 guns per class

what 10 maps 6 months after release

[ionic thorn]

lmao 1 map release after 6 months

[cursive quartz]

yeah lol

[ionic thorn]

97% of cosmetics are recycled

[cursive quartz]

^

and they alll look like shit imo lol

[ionic thorn]

yeah most of them are garbo

challenges aren't properly QA tested

it's tuff

I just wanna know what the fuck happened in the studio

[cursive quartz]

yeah

bf1 was amazing

my personal favorite bf game

[ionic thorn]

same

[cursive quartz]

but bfv isnt the same

[ionic thorn]

I wanted bfv to be the same as bf1

but with ww2

[cursive quartz]

just with new maps and guns

[ionic thorn]

yeah

[cursive quartz]

i would love that

and the same dlc thing

but maybe 30 or 40 for premium instead of 50

because no new money coming in = ea and dice dont make new content

so i think paid dlc is better

[ionic thorn]

exactly

[cursive quartz]

they put much more effort into it

[ionic thorn]

and there is no obligation to make more content without money

[cursive quartz]

because people will buy it

[stoic breach]

Cosmetics honestly could've been enough to monetise the game but it failed for so many reasons

1. Players got insulted and told not to buy the game
2. Core gameplay isnt good enough for consistent players
3. Firestorm isnt free when Apex and Fortnite exist

[cursive quartz]

i dont think so, its a small playerbase

games like fortnite

which have huge playerbases

can monetize off of just cosmetics

[stoic breach]

BF1 had a huge playerbase

[cursive quartz]

yeah

and it had paid dlc

[midnight nimbus]

turns out BR doesn't work so well without a fuckhuge playerbase

[cursive quartz]

yeah

firestorm was a massive mistake

[stoic breach]

Well whatta ya know

[midnight nimbus]

when PC NA players get matchmade with players on the literal other side of the planet

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats how it goes

Only EU gets the full battlefield experience

[ionic thorn]

low playerbase = more timed game modes

[midnight nimbus]

meanwhile i can play PC BO2 with 100-300 online players and consistently find <100ms ping lobbies without waiting

[cursive quartz]

instead of putting time and money into the actual battlefield they tried to hop on the bandwagon with a shitty br gamemode

[stoic breach]

Dice didnt make the BR

They only work on it now after release

[cursive quartz]

well ea and dice work together

[stoic breach]

Could you imagine how much more fucked the game would be if Criterion didnt make the BR

And if Dice did it all

[cursive quartz]

yeah

they multiplayer wouldve been horrible

then

[ionic thorn]

bro we wouldnt have gotten a new map until next May lmao

[stoic breach]

I guess it already is horrible so idk

[midnight nimbus]

I doubt not having firestorm would've hurt sales badly

[ionic thorn]

they already hurt the sales from their lackluster marketing

dont even think Firestorm got them more sales

[cursive quartz]

the big thing about bf1 was the game was released in october and they shall not pass didnt come out till march, leaving 5 months with only 1 map being added

[stoic breach]

I forgot about the marketting

[cursive quartz]

imagine if they released french in january

and tsar in early summer

the playerbase wouldve been massice

massive

[silver niche]

Did anyone beat the last tiger completing all acts and having all letters?

[solid hinge]

plenty have

[silver niche]

With ps4

[solid hinge]

yeah sure

[ionic thorn]

if you havent gotten the tiget skin join the club

but also about BF1, their DLCs were amazing

[silver niche]

I did all of them exept reach the aa gun on fott

Foot

Im at the part where you go to the aa gun

[solid hinge]

well then you will need to finish that to get the skin

[cursive quartz]

yeah bf1 dlc was amazing

best ever

[stoic breach]

The russian one sucked

[solid hinge]

its not that hard, there are many walk throughs on youtube

[stoic breach]

The only fun map for me was Albion

[cursive quartz]

the maps were lackluster

in tsar

[silver niche]

@solid hinge you know how you snipe some peeps then you go behind a american tank then you go to the aa gun?

[cursive quartz]

but the guns and new content was amazing

[ionic thorn]

i liked the church map

but only cuz i love chaos

[cursive quartz]

yeah

[stoic breach]

The guns and maps were the only new content

[solid hinge]

yeah I do, as I said, there are help videos on youtube

[stoic breach]

Tsaritsyn fucking sucked on conquest

[cursive quartz]

i liked all maps except galacia and lupkow pass

[silver niche]

What happens when durring you snipe the amaricans that are patroling but then you prone dose it mess it all up? @solid hinge

[cursive quartz]

galacia was good to kill the 2 planes

for the parabellum

[midnight nimbus]

tsaritsyn sucked if you got half + 1ed

[ionic thorn]

Galacia and Lupkow were definitely my least favs lol

[midnight nimbus]

but idiot teams that just held the middle alone are easy to beat

[stoic breach]

It was just a camp fest most of the time

[cursive quartz]

if the teams were equal in skill tsaritsyn was super fun

[stoic breach]

You kill like 2

And 4 more squad spawn

[midnight nimbus]

Galicia was a response to people who wanted muh trench warfare

turns out trench warfare sucks and it's unfun

just like it is in real life

[cursive quartz]

lol

[stoic breach]

Woo hoo

Nivelle was a pretty good trench map

[cursive quartz]

i think apocalypse did a much better representation of trench warfare

[ionic thorn]

i agree gello

[stoic breach]

River Somme was probably one of my favourite maps

[ionic thorn]

River Somme was great too >>>>>

[cursive quartz]

yeah

[stoic breach]

Yeah the trenchs actually led somewhere unlike Galicia

Verdun in the french dlc sucked alot

[cursive quartz]

my favorite map of all time is either soissons or brusilov keep

[midnight nimbus]

yeah the better trench warfare maps were the ones with an unrealistic take on it

[cursive quartz]

in bf1

[stoic breach]

I hate Brusilov keep

Its the same shit as Narvik

[ionic thorn]

they shall not pass maps were elite

first and last DLCs were some of the best BF DLCs imo

[stoic breach]

Every map besides Verdun was alright

[cursive quartz]

its impossible to make an ultra realistic ww1 game without it being mega boring

[stoic breach]

I dont think I've ever been that happy to play on Soissons though

I prefer Rupture

[cursive quartz]

rupture is great

but i like the super heavy tank warfare on soissons

like the 5 tanks for each side

[coarse thunder]

I just see the unrealistic trenches as either hastily prepared final defense lines or forward jump off positions

[stoic breach]

Soissons was hill camping mostly

C flag was fun to rush though

[cursive quartz]

i liked the city part of soissons

it was eye candy

the whole map was

[stoic breach]

Amien had really good urban combat

For the base game

[cursive quartz]

yes

i loved amien too

[midnight nimbus]

> its impossible to make an ultra realistic ww1 game without it being mega boring
this is why i fucking love BF1

[coarse thunder]

Soissons and Rupture have the best round start music in the game

[midnight nimbus]

it doesn't pretend to be a WW1 simulator

[cursive quartz]

exactly

[ionic thorn]

bf1 made ww1 fun

[cursive quartz]

its realistic enough to not be like bfv

but not too realistic for it to be boring

[midnight nimbus]

it's just DICE's take on what a fun unrealistic WW1 would be like

[stoic breach]

Yeah I actually do wish BF1 was more active

[solid hinge]

@stoic breach hi

[stoic breach]

All the clans have moved on to BFV and its not fun to play against them

[midnight nimbus]

and i feel like BFV doesn't try to hold this unrealistic take on WW2

it can't decide if it wants to be a fun unrealistic take, or a realistic hardcore take

[silver niche]

There will most likely be a japanese and american campaign once the two factions come out

[cursive quartz]

bfv is just trying to make people happy

with all of the equality blac

[silver niche]

I agree @cursive quartz

[cursive quartz]

black female nazis

like 4 people got mad at bf1 not having women in multi

[stoic breach]

Black female nazis is cod ww2 tho

[cursive quartz]

lol

i never liked cod except for zombies

[midnight nimbus]

CoD WW2 looks fun ngl

really strong sniping

[cursive quartz]

ew

[midnight nimbus]

really stupid perks

[stoic breach]

The level design really pissed me off

[ionic thorn]

i personally dont care for females or black soldiers dic idc I just hoped it would come with even greater customization

[midnight nimbus]

yeah maps just look kinda meh

[ionic thorn]

CoD WW2 is kinda ass lol

good story tho

better than BFV's war stories

[midnight nimbus]

PC sniping gameplay looks fun

peak quickscope cheese

[cursive quartz]

bf1s campaign was not very good

but the multi made up for it

[coarse thunder]

The only good bf1 campaign was the intro lol

[midnight nimbus]

never played a BF campaign aside from 4's

[cursive quartz]

i liked the tank story

[stoic breach]

Yeah CoD WW2 sniping was fun

[ionic thorn]

i liked bf1's campaign i hated bfv's

[stoic breach]

I think I accidentally top fragged while play on my friend's account

[midnight nimbus]

and i just zoomed through the BF4 campaign just to unlock guns

[ionic thorn]

too much one-man stealth missions in bfv

[cursive quartz]

CYBORG WOMEN SOLDIER

[coarse thunder]

Me vidya

[stoic breach]

CoD does a good job of showing how powerful snipers should be, if anything

[coarse thunder]

Must be pure

[cursive quartz]

yeah

bf5 sniping is wack

[stoic breach]

BF1 sniping though

Mhm

Very nice

[cursive quartz]

it should be a one hit to upper chest

aand head

[stoic breach]

Thats what the Boys AT is

[coarse thunder]

The only wack part of bf5 sniping is the slow velocity of bolt weapons

[stoic breach]

Headshots are basically for clout

Slow velocity, low damage

[ionic thorn]

how do you even get the Boys AT

[stoic breach]

I unlocked it

You gotta buy it though

[midnight nimbus]

when all your guns are balanced around body shots, your snipers are gonna suck if they can't body shot

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[cursive quartz]

sweet spot was a good idea

[stoic breach]

I hate the idea of the 1% Bolt Action Headshot club

[coarse thunder]

No

[stoic breach]

Its a stupid mentality

[cursive quartz]

it was trying to get different snipers at different ranges

[midnight nimbus]

like very very few players can make the headshot only snipers look good

like drunkkz3

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[cursive quartz]

i liked sweetspot

[midnight nimbus]

even then, his best sniping clips are probably BFH

[stoic breach]

"Just hit headshots" is not a good argument for having a terrible weapon

[midnight nimbus]

where sniper rifles had strong CQB bodyshots

[cursive quartz]

well .300 knockout was just broken

[stoic breach]

Sweetspot I never really used but its much better than now

[coarse thunder]

Sweet spot was the 3rd worst thing in bf1 other than explosive spam and certain assault specific weapons

[midnight nimbus]

his clips are all AWM

not 300 Knockout

[cursive quartz]

cool

[midnight nimbus]

even then, AWM bodyshot ability was decent

[stoic breach]

Was .300 Knockout a oneshot?

[cursive quartz]

yeah

[stoic breach]

Sounds great

[midnight nimbus]

up to like 50m

[cursive quartz]

for up to 50 m

[midnight nimbus]

it was really good

and not OP

because everything else was really melty

[stoic breach]

Wish the Boys AT could ads and be a 100m knockout

Yeah

[cursive quartz]

hardline had really fast ttk

so it wasnt op

but it was good

[midnight nimbus]

well it did before they power drained everything

yeah the BFH AKM used to have a similar damage model to the BFV Turner

except it was a 600 RPM automatic

[stoic breach]

Holy shit

[silver niche]

On turning point you cant prone in the entire campaign?

[midnight nimbus]

i mean that's similar to CoD

BFH M16A3 was just a 800 RPM full auto M1A1 Carbine

[stoic breach]

Yeah I suppose

I only use snipers in CoD

Because I like the raw power

[midnight nimbus]

sweet spot sniping in BF1 is so good

[stoic breach]

Same with Titanfall 2, I only use Kraber for the one tap

[midnight nimbus]

I can go play with the Ross and do just as well as I would with an SLR or LMG

yum

[stoic breach]

Yeah then you look at the ross now

[midnight nimbus]

POWER DRAIN

NO FUN ALLOWED

[stoic breach]

Thats ok I still have Titanfall 2 for sniping

[coarse thunder]

Nothing is op if everything sucks

[midnight nimbus]

I play BO4 just to snipe

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats pretty good

I still dont wanna get Black Ops 4 cause of the level design, I'll probably just get back into BO2 customs with friends

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, I'm not in love with the game

I like it more than BFV, but it's not worth $60

[stoic breach]

Yeah I cant justify spending more than $30 on it, cause I already have BO2 for multiplayer and BO3/WaW for zombies

[midnight nimbus]

I only played BFV as much as I did because I feel Stockholm syndromed into the series

I mean unlike BO4, at least most of BFV's guns are fun

so I'll give it that

[solid hinge]

live service is code for early access

How do i turn off v sync in bf5? When i go to the option its locked. can i do it through the game files?

[native mural]

...why is it locked?

[solid hinge]

click custom settings at the bottom of the options

that unlocks the "locked" settings