#battlefield-legacy-titles

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solid hinge
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Why would you pay more for an outfit you cant customize

quiet acorn
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Because

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It's shiny

stoic breach
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The fastest AR in BFV is the M1907 tho

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Besides, AR medic is great

coral fiber
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What if DICE makes some sweet ass reloads for CC
Most likely will never happen but just a suggestion

stoic breach
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Imagine medics being useful on large maps

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And the carbines dont count as range if people arent gonna have fun with them

quiet acorn
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That's why I like outpost

stoic breach
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They're a niche weapon for a reason

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Medic spam would be better in BFV

quiet acorn
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Everyone is condesdes

stoic breach
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Yeah man

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The current gameplay loop sucks

solid hinge
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hah this is unrelated but I just realized that BF1 has technicals

stoic breach
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It punishes people for not being able to communicate

solid hinge
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i.e, trucks with machine guns

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hilarious

stoic breach
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STG isnt even that good compared to the ribey

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Its an ineffective meta

quiet acorn
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I use the ribey

stoic breach
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Ribey is actually good

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But you would get assaults using the thompson and shit

quiet acorn
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I've gotten more long range headshot with the ribey than the Lee or boys

stoic breach
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And not infinitely healing themselves

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Yeah they would, assault also has SARs

prime pine
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Stg is beautiful

coral fiber
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It is

stoic breach
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I would legit rather medics be more useful and spam ARs then medics spamming thompson and thinking they're pro gamers

prime pine
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Stg feels wonderful to get kills with

solid hinge
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a medic with the ribey scares me

quiet acorn
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I also love stalking people in bfv

solid hinge
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medic with ribey and m1907 is hell

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Can some generous soul show me the roadmap

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nowhere is safe

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hide your family

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!!roadmap

coral fiber
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Idk why but i love the stg 44 reload

prime pine
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You havent even encountered a person who runs light bolt on the suomi raze

stoic breach
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The current attrition model should give medic self-healing a cooldown

quiet acorn
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And then stabbing them after like 20 seconds of just sneaking behind them

stoic breach
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Its too easy to spam

prime pine
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Suomi with light bolt is delicious.

stoic breach
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@prime pine I run light bolt on the suomi

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Lol

prime pine
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Thata s surprise

coral fiber
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But the ammo cap

stoic breach
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Its a great idea

prime pine
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Anyways

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12G automatic is a very good shotgun

stoic breach
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Why would you not want people to be useful to the team

coral fiber
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AEK?

stoic breach
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Medics suck right now cause smgs arent good at mid range without significant effort

prime pine
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Uhhh

solid hinge
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Okay so the first major content drop should be by the end of this year

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Cool. Thx @solid hinge

coral fiber
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Oh ok i never played bf3

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Wished i could tbh

prime pine
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Dont be hopeful for anything good on bf5

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Cause they'll fuck it up some way

stoic breach
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Medics using StGs would be much better then Assaults having two weapons good at midrange

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And why would you want medics to SMG rush an objective and die first as well

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Medics should have versatile weapons

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ZK?

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What about on Panzerstorm and Hamada

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Where nobody uses medic

prime pine
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Mab is a good all rounder

stoic breach
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You gonna tell randoms to smoke πŸ‘½

prime pine
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Of they re release the hellriegal everyone is gonna gravitate to that.

stoic breach
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I do that

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I use suomi on Panzerstorm and Hamada cause I know how to play the game

coral fiber
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Oh hell no the heilriegel

prime pine
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Hellriegal and smg08 would be beautiful...

stoic breach
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The SMGs suck because they arent meant for range or versatility

coral fiber
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bf1 PTSD intensifies

prime pine
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And i hated the hellreigal in bf1

stoic breach
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Dont say MP40

prime pine
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Smg08 was crazy

stoic breach
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Esse?

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They are meant for cqb which is why you dont see medics on large maps generally

prime pine
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If you want range then give them their semi autos.

coral fiber
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Most of them but true

stoic breach
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But thats the problem with BFV, it doesn't encourage intelligent play, it punishes players for not knowing what to do

coral fiber
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TΓ­o

stoic breach
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The best class overall is assault because of the SARs

solid hinge
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medics are designed to be medica

stoic breach
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What happened to your keyboard snutten

solid hinge
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the infinite heals make a big difference

stoic breach
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Yeah I see

coral fiber
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I relate to snutten

stoic breach
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Medics shouldnt have such a fast infinite heal

coral fiber
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Because im on phone rn hehehe

stoic breach
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Medics can take 3 sniper shots to kill alot of the time

torpid monolith
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Hey, does anyone know which guns is better, 6 pounder on mosquito or 75mm on German bomber?

prime pine
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Uhhh

coral fiber
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Hmm

prime pine
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Think they're oj par

stoic breach
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That would be way better than SMGs

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Ok, medics would also need a self-heal cooldown

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Medpacks need reciprocity

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And the revive animation needs to be cut down

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Yeah yeah

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Its the entire class that needs fixing

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πŸ—Ώ

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Its satisfying cause of the animation

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Squad revives can stay long

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Thats totally fine

coral fiber
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How about remove every animation in the game

prime pine
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Flipping over is 33% of the revive.

stoic breach
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But medic revives are too long, 2 second animation where you can be killed just for doing your job

solid hinge
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@torpid monolith the 6pdr has a higher fire rate, 75mm has bigger splash and damage

stoic breach
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Yeah

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The dead player can get the needle stuck in their arm, start getting up, and still die

coral fiber
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Relatable

solid hinge
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I don't think the animations should be any faster

stoic breach
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Smokes dont stop explosives πŸ‘½

prime pine
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They need to remove the animations for getting out the plane and tank

stoic breach
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AR would help you clear the area better

coral fiber
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No

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Make it longer

solid hinge
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If they aren't slow enough that I can shoot the medic twice in the body with the krag then I'd hate medic revives

stoic breach
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People shouldnt really be getting out of their vehicles

prime pine
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Do you like spawning on a bomber. To get yourself out only to exit in out of bounds? Or flung out of there?

solid hinge
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Get out at a better time dummy

coral fiber
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I have suggestion
Make exiting the plane longer when in critical damage like your canopy getting stuck

formal crane
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ayla

stoic breach
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Ayla you can kill a medic faster with an AGm than you can fire a second shot with the Krag

prime pine
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Timing is incredibly precise and fucked

stoic breach
prime pine
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Hell. Maybe if a passenger can skip the animation.

stoic breach
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Passengers shouldnt be punished for being passengers

prime pine
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Then there wouldnt be need to be pissed

solid hinge
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dont remind me

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;_;

stoic breach
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They constantly get fucked when its not their fault

prime pine
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It takes more time to get out of a valentine mkviii then it does a churchill

solid hinge
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it's not even passenger

prime pine
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Eh. Then the people that would know would be the ones who seriously care about vehicles.

solid hinge
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it's gunner

coral fiber
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Im just saying for fighters snutten

prime pine
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Still a passenger in technical sense.

formal crane
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i dont kiss ass :(

stoic breach
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There wouldnt be passenger seat abuse if Dice just make pilots and tankers take longer to disembark

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You know, cause they get their own id

prime pine
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You literally dont even jump out the gunner turret you go in. Jump out the hatch and launch your self off the valentine

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Which takes longer than it should

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Churchill just SLIDE

stoic breach
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All the animations should be shorter

formal crane
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do the churchill slide

stoic breach
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Dont punish medics for doing their job

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Smoke reviving was effective in BF1 as well

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With instant reviving

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Smoking is just a generally good idea

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Yeah but the argument is that you would smoke naturally

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And you can still get fucked by explosives and hitmarkers

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I have 4 smokes on my medic for revives and pushes

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But like, the animation doesnt need to be 2 seconds long

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Sometimes you wont even have smokes on you depending on your kit

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Thats another thing too

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Punishing players for not using a specific set of equipment is also dumb

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And also rewarding players more for having certain equipment is also dumb

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If the revive animation was shorter, 4 smokes could easily cover way more revives

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Its more about making teamwork more accessible

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And not letting people suffer for trying to do their job

solid hinge
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if i headshot someone and they get revived before I've even finished bolting I'm gonna be mad

stoic breach
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I play medic probably like 70% of the time according to my stats

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There might be, not sure

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I'm just assuming its 70% cause medic is my top class

torpid monolith
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What SMG do you guys feel is the best medic weapon?

stoic breach
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Probably suomi or zk

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Vro

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What the heck

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I think assault is my second highest class

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Assault should have suomi because they should be the ones clearing rooms 😩

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And medic should be behind them for support

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Yeah

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Tnt and smgs

torpid monolith
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Also, do you guys know what is the best semi auto assault weapon?

stoic breach
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That is a good kit

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AGm42

solid hinge
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I've played medic more than assault

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wow

stoic breach
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My highest kill weapon is the Kar98 and I still dont know why

solid hinge
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@torpid monolith for ease of use, the g1-5

stoic breach
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Gewehr 43 is too easy to use

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But the other guns should just get buffed

solid hinge
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All the semis are

stoic breach
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Yeah

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Yeah man

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My stats are fucking stupid

solid hinge
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is it the panzerfaust

stoic breach
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I use medic and assault more than recon

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But the Kar98 is my top weapon

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And I think the Kar98 is not a good weapon

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So idk

torpid monolith
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My 2 favorite guns for assault are STG and m1a1. Also, what’s the best assault recon sniper weapon?

solid hinge
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oh my god

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ive been missing out

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zh is beast

stoic breach
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ZH, P08, Boys AT

solid hinge
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it's so damn good

stoic breach
torpid monolith
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ZH?

solid hinge
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p08 for close range

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ZH for best all range

stoic breach
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I dont find the ZH fun cause its too slow, I just like the RSC way too much

solid hinge
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shouldnt the 1906 be better

stoic breach
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Going for headshots as a sniper is pointless

solid hinge
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same 2 tap but fires faster

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nope

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ZH has less recoil and detachable mag spec

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karabin is assault

formal crane
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ACW-R and MTAR close range

stoic breach
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Bolt actions should be one shot cause theres no reason to pick them over the ZK 😩

solid hinge
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thats why they should have unrevivable headshots

torpid monolith
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Is SH one shit headshot?

solid hinge
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πŸ˜”

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Nah

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no please

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just higher body damage

formal crane
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takes an m98b 50 cal sniper bullet through the head in bf4

stoic breach
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One shot chest shot sweetspots with faster muzzle velocity 😩😩

formal crane
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gets revived

solid hinge
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Higher body damage would be fine imo

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unrevivable headshots are stupid

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because headshots arent even that hard

formal crane
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close range, head shot, fuck with a vest b!

solid hinge
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even level 20 scrub scouts get headshots all the time

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that's arguable looking at my team's k/d

stoic breach
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The reason that the ZH is head and shoulders above the bolt actions is because they're too slow and dont deal enough damage

solid hinge
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headshots in this are soooo much easier compared to previous games

stoic breach
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The Tromboncino is the best bolt action because its fast

torpid monolith
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So ZH 29 has no 1 shot headshot?

solid hinge
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like the head hitbox is girthy af

stoic breach
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Its basically a slow dmr with one tap potential

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The head hitbox in BFV is smaller than BF1

solid hinge
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NO

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no it isnt

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at all

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trust me

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@torpid monolith none of the recon SLRs are one shot headshots but they shoot significantly faster

torpid monolith
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Does anyone know the best bolt action for aggressive recon?

solid hinge
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Um Iβ€˜m in a firestorm match that’s about to start with 13 ppl

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Technically the Lee

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This should be interesting

stoic breach
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The best aggressive bolt action is the Tromboncino lol

sturdy osprey
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I think sleep is better then bfv rn

stoic breach
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Like why would you pick the Lee Enfield over the De Lisle as well

tribal cairn
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Personally, I never liked the lee

stoic breach
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De Lisle has around 100m/s slower muzzle velocity, but it gets straight pull, no scope glint, and is suppressed

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The Lee is shit

formal crane
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wait

stoic breach
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Its one of the worst guns in BFV

solid hinge
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ross is boss

stoic breach
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Ross also sucks

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Ross should have straight pull on every scope and faster muzzle velocity

formal crane
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why cant i say it :(((((

stoic breach
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I wanted so bad for the Ross to be good but it just isnt

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So disappointing

solid hinge
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@formal crane you're gonna get in trouble dork

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it's alright

formal crane
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im sorry i disappointed you ayla 😭

solid hinge
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they need to bring back straight pulls

stoic breach
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Its only slightly better than the Lee Enfield

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Well they did

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Medic has the straight pulls lol

formal crane
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im a disappointment 😭

solid hinge
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Word filter is there for a reason!

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but then the m.95 would be kinda op

stoic breach
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Nah

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M95 would be the best

formal crane
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Im sorry mrs ayla i wont ever say it again

stoic breach
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90 damage straight pull

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No need for sweetspot

formal crane
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ahhh you want straight pull, get bf4

stoic breach
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I would love to see an M95 meta

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Because it uses en bloc reloads as well

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So its also consistent

solid hinge
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yep

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it'd be the best sniper

stoic breach
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It would if it had straight pull

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And a faster rechamber time

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Its too slow

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It should act like a slower Tromboncino

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I dont think it was

solid hinge
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good boy

stoic breach
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πŸ‘½

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Straight pull Ross would actually be boss

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And if it had way faster muzzle velocity

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And delt 60dmg

solid hinge
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the beta?

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this is the beta

stoic breach
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Instead of 54

formal crane
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!

solid hinge
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Any straight pull sniper would be head and shoulders above the rest

stoic breach
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I honestly expected the Ross to be a better Krag

solid hinge
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haha

stoic breach
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But somehow its actually worse than the Kar98

solid hinge
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head and shoulders

formal crane
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ayla

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let me make you a bf4 loadout

solid hinge
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the scope in and out makes the rpm even slowet

stoic breach
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Yeah

solid hinge
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I don't have bf4!

formal crane
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What ayla! 😭

solid hinge
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blasphemy

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ban her

formal crane
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ayla you have to ban yourself

solid hinge
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@manager of dice

stoic breach
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1 > 5

solid hinge
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ban snutten

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unless you were doing math

stoic breach
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I miss BF1 after playing BFV

solid hinge
stoic breach
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BF1 sniping with the M1917 Enfield 😩😩😩

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RBD wasnt that bad

solid hinge
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i'd take random bullet spread over pukey maps and slow pace

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and bad performance

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and bad netcode

stoic breach
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BFV has the pace of a shiftwalk

solid hinge
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and many bugs

stoic breach
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Its way too passive

solid hinge
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ps4 eu players

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apparently pc players are aggressive

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that's what they say

stoic breach
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I play too aggressively in BFV and get fucked on constantly

solid hinge
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but on ps4 most players just lay down there in their own pool of sweat

formal crane
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pc players are aggro because its easier to pre aim in console

stoic breach
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I dont wanna console bash cause theres always sweat everywhere

formal crane
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snap on aiming is easier in pc and that makes being aggro more efficient

solid hinge
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i've learned to play semi aggressive

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i'd move, but i'd camp a spot every once in a while

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instead of moving all the time

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works much better

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there has to be some degree of passiveness in your play

stoic breach
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Thats kind of how I play with the Boys AT

solid hinge
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otherwise you get fucked

stoic breach
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And then I just rush and use it as a shotgun

formal crane
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on console, beating a camper is almost impossible if you aggro into them

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on pc, you have a decent chance

stoic breach
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MG42 is worse on console than on pc though

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But like, MMGs dont even need to be camper weapons if they were balanced properly 😩

solid hinge
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they shouldnt have been put into the game in the 1st place lol

stoic breach
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BF1 had MMGs

solid hinge
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they're such a dilemma

stoic breach
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And you could get fucked by a camping Parabellum

solid hinge
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yea but they were treated as LMGs

stoic breach
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But it wasnt an epidemic like in BFV

formal crane
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i may play bf4 the ultimate game, but i know my stuff

solid hinge
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parabellum is like

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the mg42's little sister

stoic breach
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Yeah

solid hinge
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mg42 is far more toxic

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faster rof, more ammo, overheats slower

stoic breach
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If MMGs could ads without the bipod, it would expand the use cases of the class

prime pine
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Aggressive parabellum here! Sorta.

solid hinge
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but then they'd be too versatile

stoic breach
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Like, you wouldnt just have to camp if you felt like you could move a bit

solid hinge
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maybe if they nerfed their bipoded accuracy

stoic breach
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Nah

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If they would ads they would just have a fuck ton of spread

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They should have reverse spread as well

solid hinge
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hmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMM

stoic breach
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High initial spread to stop burst firing and encourage mag dumping

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Suppressive fire

solid hinge
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you know that actually sounds interesting

stoic breach
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Condusive to the support playstyle

solid hinge
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they'd be different from lmgs

stoic breach
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Yeah

solid hinge
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and wouldnt be as campy

stoic breach
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Cause like, it just means you cant rush and ads with an MMG

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Oh shit

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I forgot BF1 reduced your ads accuracy on lmgs/mmgs if you started firing and then aimed

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It would fuck you up if you played the weapon wrong

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That could also work on MMGs

solid hinge
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it.. did that?

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never noticed

stoic breach
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Yeah I forgot about it

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It made it so that you couldnt use an LMG as a ghetto smg

midnight nimbus
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all guns do that

stoic breach
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Ok that makes sense

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Thanks for clarifying that then

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But yeah, I'm pretty sure people wouldnt feel as restricted to camping if they could aim without needing the bipod

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Same with Boys

upper topaz
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So why is BFV Britain vs Germany 4srs

formal crane
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bf4

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china vs usa vs russia

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whats cooler

woeful lance
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bf4

upper topaz
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Bf4

formal crane
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exactly

stoic breach
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Bf4 because the Firestorm heli isnt in the BFV base multiplayer πŸ‘Ί

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Honestly it wouldnt be hard to add the helicopter to BFV

formal crane
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thats right @oblique parcel

upper topaz
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They should have coupled america russia and britain into the same allied nation with mixed vehicles and weapons

stoic breach
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And it would be great if it had a mounted MG34 on it

upper topaz
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No sherman tank. That is disgraceful.

formal crane
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bf4>bf5

stoic breach
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Was russian allied with Britain in 1939 though?

formal crane
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no way broski

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russia was allied with germany

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or rather non-aggression

stoic breach
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Broski

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Yea

formal crane
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meaning they wanted nothing to do with the west

stoic breach
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BFV has good gun balance, better than BF4

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But the guns are on the wrong classes

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Some of them at least

formal crane
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no way bf4 gun balancing is so good

stoic breach
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BF4 is just clicking fast to shoot more accurately

formal crane
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best balanced PDWs in the whole fucking series

stoic breach
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I would probably play BF4 more tbh

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If the only active maps werent fucking Siege of Shanghai

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And Golmud

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Locker is ok tho

formal crane
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i like those maps

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but i dig parcel storm a lot

stoic breach
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Siege and Golmud fucking suck

solid hinge
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BFV needs better maps

stoic breach
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Paracel is great

solid hinge
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BF1 had the best maps

stoic breach
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Dawnbreaker is alright but its fun at least

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BF1 had some stinkers too

formal crane
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nah bf4 maps were actually the bomb

stoic breach
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Every BF game does

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Siege of Shanghai is so fucking bad

solid hinge
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BF1 DLC maps were πŸ‘ŒπŸ»πŸ‘ŒπŸ»πŸ‘ŒπŸ»πŸ˜©πŸ˜©

stoic breach
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C flag is only fun while the tower is up

tribal cairn
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Dam was fun

stoic breach
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And when it gets knocked down the map becomes even less fun

formal crane
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the best map is golmud we all know that

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i like flood in tdm

stoic breach
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It takes tdm for Flood to be good

tribal cairn
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What about the silk road?

stoic breach
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Otherwise it sucks

solid hinge
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Too bad for you

stoic breach
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The BF1 dlc maps should've been free

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With paid weapons

solid hinge
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It was really good when they came out

stoic breach
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And cosmetics

formal crane
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so should have bf4s ecks dee

stoic breach
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Every BF game should have free maps

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But paid guns and cosmetics

solid hinge
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TSNP and Tsar were great

formal crane
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has drank three 20oz redbulls today

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im gonna die

stoic breach
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Premium shouldnt split the community

muted socket
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Ugh had a rough bf1 session

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1-8 on fort du vaux

formal crane
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paying for a paid game

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paying for a paid game

solid hinge
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Bruh if BFV had premium I wouldn’t be upset. It’d guarantee that we’d have some more content by now

inland valley
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lol

formal crane
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every one

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I think they shouldnt have made bf1 and bf5 they should have just kept updating bf4

stoic breach
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Free maps are good but not when theres only 3 free maps right now

formal crane
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you suck

inland valley
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thats a subjective statement

formal crane
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sights in bf3 were toxic

stoic breach
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The community wants more maps

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Premium guns and free maps is good

inland valley
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gimme map tools

stoic breach
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Oh god

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Frostbite is a bitch of an engine

inland valley
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Rust in BF1

stoic breach
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I remade Dust 2 in Halo 4 forge

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And Cache in Halo 2

inland valley
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good

stoic breach
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Forge on PC

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😩😩

formal crane
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oh cool hacker maps

inland valley
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WoahHappy man i miss russian badger

stoic breach
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Hacker maps

formal crane
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cache made of paper

solid hinge
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I made an A7V in Halo 5 forge that is drivable

formal crane
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dust 2 douchebag maps

inland valley
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ok

stoic breach
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Halo 5 has based Forge

formal crane
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who

solid hinge
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H5 forge is really nice

stoic breach
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Dust 2 is probably one of the most balanced competitive maps in existence

inland valley
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right...

formal crane
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uh no

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its not

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for 1 its T sided

stoic breach
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The only reason I dont like it is because I've played it so much

formal crane
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for 1 its T sided

stoic breach
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Its not T sided

formal crane
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maps should be CT sided by nature

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YES IT IS

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ITS 47% winrate for Ct

stoic breach
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Maps are CT sides

formal crane
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no

stoic breach
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Already

formal crane
#

not dust

#

dust is the only t sided map

stoic breach
#

Dust 2 is balanced

formal crane
#

dust 2 is T sided

#

ive been playing counterstrike for years

stoic breach
#

T's just get faster rotations generally

formal crane
#

i was on a team that won cascade league

inland valley
#

We all know even if its T sided or CT sided that a good l player can make it work

formal crane
#

i know all the statistics

#

In the professional scene, dust 2 is T sided

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because T's get instant mid control, and theres extra entrances into bombsites

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its slightly t sided

stoic breach
#

Balancing a game on "professional" ideologies is what BFV tried to do πŸ‘½

formal crane
#

instant mid control, extra bombsite entrances

solid hinge
#

professional

formal crane
#

cts have slow rotations

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and the B bombsite is nearly impossible to retake

stoic breach
#

Yeah BFV does need better maps

solid hinge
#

Tbh just remove Hamada

stoic breach
#

Hamada isnt even the worst map

inland valley
#

yes its not a good idea when your audience isnt at all competitive,
plus if you wanted to cater to comp players just make a different mode for them

stoic breach
#

Yeah

formal crane
#

i know my csgo dont even

stoic breach
#

Attrition for 5v5, no attrition for 32v32

inland valley
#

now thats a good difference

bronze grotto
#

is the ls26 assignment fixed yet

solid hinge
#

Hamada isn’t great tho, especially on breakthrough cuz then you’re in for a 45 min game

stoic breach
#

CTs should just get a UAV for dust tbh

#

Also I realised how much I dislike Mirage as a map

formal crane
#

the people who made mirage were actually idiots

#

i have a meme about mirag

stoic breach
#

Hamada breakthrough is fun

bronze grotto
#

lmao likely

inland valley
#

WELL CT SHOULD HAVE A BTR WITH ROCKETS BUT we dont mention that

solid hinge
#

Devastation is prob my fav bfv map

formal crane
#

it says "people who made mirage" and its a picture of a bunch of autistic meme people

bronze grotto
#

and p08 carbine specialization is bugged...

stoic breach
#

Mirage is just like ugh

bronze grotto
#

i can't unlock any of it

fluid tusk
#

wew

stoic breach
#

A site rush through aps is a counter to Jungle and literally nothing else

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For Ta

fluid tusk
#

sadly theres no BFVietnam or BF P4F stat list

stoic breach
#

Ts

solid hinge
#

@bronze grotto don’t worry it ain’t really worth

formal crane
#

razen are you silver or something

bronze grotto
#

did they nerf the carbine?

stoic breach
#

Yeah I am lol

bronze grotto
#

because the p08 is an ok carbine for the scout imo

inland valley
#

bro iam unranked lol

stoic breach
#

Its great

formal crane
#

please never make an analysis about site rushing B again

bronze grotto
#

closest thing to a semi auto for recons

stoic breach
#

B

#

I said A

#

Wait a sec

solid hinge
#

It’s ok but the specializations aren’t too great imo

stoic breach
#

I must have gotten them swapped around

formal crane
#

yES

solid hinge
#

The gun itself is great

bronze grotto
#

hipfire specs?

solid hinge
#

Meh

stoic breach
#

Idk, I just generally dont like Mirage

inland valley
#

The way I approach ranks in games is this "do want to be with idiots or tryhards" I always go with idiots

solid hinge
#

I hate hipfire so it’s not my thing

formal crane
#

it seems that low skill and high skill players hate mirage

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everyone in between loves it

stoic breach
#

I'm stuck in low silver because I cant aim with a mouse

bronze grotto
#

is the mab smg good

stoic breach
#

Theres a pretty good reason I stick to console

formal crane
#

theres a lot more to csgo than aim

stoic breach
#

I have better aim with my thumb

#

I know

#

But I cant frag well

formal crane
#

and csgo is like an extreme low sens game

solid hinge
#

Iβ€˜m not a fan, recoil is weird

formal crane
#

i hate high sens players

stoic breach
#

Which is pretty important in a first person shooter

formal crane
#

csgo just has a really high skill cap

inland valley
#

sens is different for people thos

muted socket
#

extremely high

formal crane
#

remember that its engine was meant for garys mod and shit

inland valley
#

yeah and ?

stoic breach
#

I cant aim so I cant do half of the required skill I need to play

inland valley
#

its a good engine

stoic breach
#

Source is a great engine

formal crane
#

it is, but it presents a lot of holes that more skilled people exploit

stoic breach
#

Its what Titanfall is made on 😩

formal crane
#

lower skilled players who arent used to the engine tend to get screwed

bronze grotto
#

is it just me or nobody is using the S2 mmg

solid hinge
#

Titanfall was great

inland valley
#

depends on the exploit you are talking about

solid hinge
#

I like that one @bronze grotto

bronze grotto
#

and i missed last week so i didnt get to unlock the s2 too

#

what is it like

solid hinge
#

It’s good

bronze grotto
#

i hear its a hipfire mmg LULW

inland valley
#

it is

stoic breach
#

Yeah I'm pretty much stuck in silver because I cant aim and tactics dont really mean much when the enemy team can hit shots better than I can

#

So I just gave up on comp

solid hinge
#

It’s kinda like the mg34 imo

formal crane
#

bhopping, aim after movement mechanics

bronze grotto
#

and 30 round mag?

formal crane
#

ect

stoic breach
#

And now I just mess around in the source map editor

formal crane
#

counter strafing ideology

bronze grotto
#

sounds like an oversized bipod only bar

stoic breach
#

Aim after movement isnt really hard to learn but its hard to do

formal crane
#

you also have to know stats

inland valley
#

int b hopping like really hard to master ?

stoic breach
#

Cause its velocity based

formal crane
#

is it worth it to try and put a bullet in his head with this gun, or spray him down with bodyshots

#

does armor change that

#

ect

#

is he already damaged

upper topaz
#

Can you upgrade the gun on the Gun Carrier?

formal crane
#

bhopping is especially hard to learn in csgo because the engine lost its optimization

inland valley
#

well your weapon choice will change how you approach a gunfight

formal crane
#

knowing recoil patterns

solid hinge
#

It’s specs are pretty solid imo @bronze grotto you can have more stable at 770 rpm or 900 rpm with the left tree

formal crane
#

effective range

#

whats wallbangable what isnt

#

common spots to be

#

its really a game that you learn with a lot of time

bronze grotto
#

900rpm bar BruhMoment

#

epic

solid hinge
#

Ikr

stoic breach
#

Common spots are why I like Squad Conquest in BFV 😩

formal crane
#

900RPM bar= AEK

inland valley
#

Yes a Competitive game requires a lot of things to master and know. So ?

stoic breach
#

You can just expect people to camp in the same locations

formal crane
#

exactly, thats why im saying that csgo is actually important competitively

bronze grotto
#

i think even the darne mmg can only have 800 rpm with spec?

stoic breach
#

Whos saying that CSGO isnt important competitively

formal crane
#

compared to battlefield

bronze grotto
#

when do they unlock the s2 for people who missed the unlock week

stoic breach
solid hinge
#

Darne is 770 or 900

formal crane
#

and not just because competitive battlefield is mostly the AEK show

stoic breach
#

Probably cause the gunplay in BF4 isnt that great

bronze grotto
#

900rpm S2 beats out darne 900rpm in recoil i suppose?

inland valley
#

Battleield is too random for it to be a competitive game and trying to make it one limits the fun you could have with it

formal crane
#

its a game meant for the couch

#

games that are great on pc usually suck on console

#

and vise versa

stoic breach
#

You can still have good gunplay

#

See

#

Titanfall

#

Titanfall 2

#

Halo

formal crane
#

just look at pubg and csgos console ports

solid hinge
#

Idk I’ll check @bronze grotto

formal crane
#

they suck donkey penis

inland valley
#

the console to PC thing also sucks cos companies think that making a port shitty will stop pirates lol

muted socket
#

csgo got ported?

stoic breach
#

Csgo port is shit

inland valley
#

no no that

formal crane
#

mostly because aiming in PUBG doesnt feel right even on pubg

#

csgo port is bad and its running a 2016 update

inland valley
#

console games to PC

upper topaz
#

Does the Gun Carrier have hesh?

solid hinge
#

Darne has slightly more control than S2 both with 900 rpm

bronze grotto
#

it has a tiny mag size for an mmg i guess it has to be

formal crane
#

and recoil is impossible to deal with on sticks

solid hinge
#

But S2 has better precision

bronze grotto
#

the s2 doesn't have weird recoil like fg42 right

solid hinge
#

On

#

No

#

Not imo at least

bronze grotto
#

damn i kinda regret missing out the first week

#

the scrimp skin for the s2 also looks nutty af

solid hinge
#

It’ll be available hopefully soon

inland valley
#

it propably does

stoic breach
#

The recoil wasnt made for sticks in csgo so its pretty much just an outlier

inland valley
#

I miss BF1 but i cant play cos PSN is trash system fuck denuvo fuck drm fuck playstation jesus

stoic breach
#

Not every game has to have such precise aiming as CSGO

#

Yeah ps4 online service is shite

muted socket
#

i can only find 1 bf1 server on pc

#

and it wasnt fun

inland valley
#

region ?

formal crane
#

and pubg

#

recoil just shouldnt be a console thing

muted socket
#

cqc map and i didnt do well

#

na

inland valley
#

ah na i see

stoic breach
#

Pubg is just yuck

#

Devs dont even care about the game

inland valley
#

feels bad man

formal crane
#

aiming in pubg feels bad even on pc

#

i think its because the game has a weird fixed aim accelleration

inland valley
#

pubg is trash because rng is a flawed system

#

imo

stoic breach
#

Ew

#

I cant handle acceleration on pc

formal crane
#

Arma, escape from tarkov

stoic breach
#

I have to use raw input for everything

formal crane
#

they just arent arcade shooters

muted socket
#

i try to play bf sparingly only with ppl from here

formal crane
#

aiming feels like its veteran

muted socket
#

more fun and i actually do well

inland valley
#

yeah good thing this server exists

stoic breach
#

Not every game needs to be this "hardcore" experience though

inland valley
#

tru

stoic breach
#

Like, BFV tried to be hardcore and failed

#

And people want hardcore in BFV

#

Jeez

formal crane
#

i think pubg is super close to tarkov

stoic breach
#

Hardcore is shit already

formal crane
#

same clunky aiming

#

that feels perm accellerated

inland valley
#

like i just wanna blow the map up dice y u gotta limit my tnt

muted socket
#

attrition sounds nice but doesnt work when everyones a sniper

inland valley
#

good in concept bad in execution
is essentially the motto of BFV

stoic breach
#

Attrition only works in small gamemodes

#

Like the upcoming 5v5

inland valley
#

yes

#

not 32v32

stoic breach
#

Yeah

midnight nimbus
#

wtf

#

no

inland valley
#

i might as well go melee only

stoic breach
#

I think it would work in a smaller gamemode

midnight nimbus
#

it's even dumber at lower playercounts

stoic breach
#

Ok

midnight nimbus
#

epic forced teamplay

stoic breach
#

I think if you funnelled players together it would work probably

inland valley
#

depends what guns should get less ammo ?

stoic breach
#

And if you had 5 people on mics

midnight nimbus
#

devolving into the same "RPS" shit people claim they hate

stoic breach
#

RPS?

muted socket
#

rps?

midnight nimbus
#

rock paper scissors

stoic breach
#

Oh yeah

#

You use alot of anagrams Noice

midnight nimbus
#

BF needs realistic ammo count

#

just like BF4

muted socket
#

shouldve known lol

midnight nimbus
#

real soldiers carry like 10 mags for their assault rifle into battle

inland valley
#

like mmg and lmgs should get less max ammo to stop spam

stoic breach
#

Nah why

midnight nimbus
#

and only a few pistol mags

#

max ammo doesn't matter for MGs

#

you have unlimited ammo anyways

inland valley
#

alright

midnight nimbus
#

give them unlimited max ammo

inland valley
#

less mag size ?

midnight nimbus
#

so you don't have to go through the input tax and spamming 3 every minute

#

mag size is fine

#

spamming ammo downrange is the support's role

#

that's like the whole point of picking the class

inland valley
#

ok then what about medic ?

midnight nimbus
#

what about them?

inland valley
#

how would you balance them

midnight nimbus
#

literally return to the BF3/4 formula

#

SAR + AR medic

stoic breach
#

I dont really think medic needs both

#

Just AR would be fine

#

I would rather SAR assault for versatility

inland valley
#

maybe give the semi autos to recon ?

stoic breach
#

They have SLRs already

#

And they're alright

inland valley
#

or do we just like make a class of weapons for everyone

stoic breach
#

Not really necessary

inland valley
#

yeah now that i think about it it just dilutes the weapon pool

#

and makes it hard to balance

midnight nimbus
#

all class guns were dumb

stoic breach
#

Yeah I honestly think that just giving AR to medic would be good enough

midnight nimbus
#

BF1 did this very well

#

super defined roles

solid hinge
#

jesus

inland valley
#

christ

midnight nimbus
#

actually i'd be ok with all class SMGs

solid hinge
#

p08 carbine specialisation wont fixed until next week

midnight nimbus
#

CQB is kinda niche on most BF maps anyways

stoic breach
#

I dont think its necessary really

midnight nimbus
#

actually nvm, SAR assault is fucking ridiculous

#

who am i kidding

inland valley
#

everyone complaining about that po8 assignment

#

feels bad man

midnight nimbus
#

i enjoy it too much to look at it objectively

stoic breach
#

SAR assault is alright, I wouldnt take their range away

inland valley
#

ah I see

midnight nimbus
#

but the frontline assault class should be an SMG/shotgun class like it's always been

#

SMGs have plenty of range

solid hinge
#

so back tot he game since release, BFV, how should i kit out assault?

midnight nimbus
#

especially if you make it like BF1 assault

inland valley
#

Stg 44

midnight nimbus
#

or BF4's

stoic breach
#

Shotgun assault would be nice in BFV

midnight nimbus
#

you have nichey guns like the groza or PDW-R that do well at range

stoic breach
#

I would rather that than shotgun support

midnight nimbus
#

as well as slug shotguns

#

shotgun support is some of the stupidest shit I've ever seen

#

genuinely

#

makes zero sense

stoic breach
#

Its really only for weapon variety but theres no point

solid hinge
#

are origin servers down?

stoic breach
#

I really just wanna see thompson assault

#

That would be hype

inland valley
#

I always found shotguns bullshit, But yo fair I was a dumbass back then so... idk really. I have to play BF1 again in order to understand the meta and balance

stoic breach
#

And probably make sense

inland valley
#

@solid hinge propably lol

midnight nimbus
#

BF1 shotguns sucked so bad

#

aside from like 12G Auto

#

and 1900

inland valley
#

Cough Cough Pre patch 10A hunter

midnight nimbus
#

pre patch 10-A Hunter was dogshit overhyped by YTers that didn't know what they're talking about

#

10-A Hunter would genuinely be the worst shotgun in BF4 by a long shot

inland valley
#

BF4 ?

midnight nimbus
#

10-A Hunter was mediocre at best

#

1897 was better from day one

stoic breach
#

It was easy on console which is probably why it was so popular

midnight nimbus
#

BF4 shotguns are horrifying

inland valley
#

yes exactly

#

except odts or waht ever it was called

midnight nimbus
#

10-A Hunter has dogshit low RoF while barely having more one shot abilities than the 1897

inland valley
#

ok fine you got me

#

I was just bad at the game

#

and i have to admit it

midnight nimbus
#

like your max OHK potential with the 10-A Hunter is like maybe 2m longer than the 1897's

#

or use the 1900

#

same OHK potential as the 10-A

#

except you can spam two shots in case you can't get the one hit kill

cursive quartz
#

pre patch 10-a was busted as fuck

#

so people just kept using it

#

i personally like 1900

inland valley
#

lets just say it was good and hype made it better

cursive quartz
#

yeah

midnight nimbus
#

because people are idiots that actually thought jackfrags was correct

#

also 10-A Factory > Hunter

#

Hunter is only better if you ADS

inland valley
#

nah more people believed Russianbadger back when he made battlefield videos lool

midnight nimbus
#

Factory is better than Hunter in most scenarios

inland valley
#

what about slug ?

midnight nimbus
#

I used 1900 Slug bc i hate the BF1 lens sight

#

but the 10-A Hunter was ok

inland valley
#

I could see that

stoic breach
#

I couldnt get into 1900 Slug

#

Idk why

cursive quartz
#

i went on a 40 killstreak with 10-a slug

#

i really liked that gun

#

idk why

inland valley
#

yeah i could never get used to the 1906 or the Mondragon

stoic breach
#

I liked the 1906 but I preferred the RSC overall

cursive quartz
#

im trying to get the 16round machinepistol but i cant destroy boats

midnight nimbus
#

RSC was one of the few BF1 guns that approached OP

cursive quartz
#

how tf do i do it

stoic breach
#

It was very punchy

inland valley
#

RSC is good when you manage your shots and dont spam but my dumbass could get that

midnight nimbus
#

the best feels is when you spam the RSC at max RoF and flick for 3 kills

stoic breach
#

I liked it cause I had effective power as a medic

inland valley
#

those 2 shots pogu

stoic breach
#

Dang

midnight nimbus
#

yeah, and BF1 medic was hardly OP

inland valley
#

is that sarcastic ?

midnight nimbus
#

but still ridiculously effective and fun

stoic breach
#

Yeah, I think before the RSC I used the Cei Rigotti mostly

inland valley
#

Fedorov Army all the way

stoic breach
#

I think I liked the look of it mostly

#

Fedorov was super meta on console and it was just boring

inland valley
#

I respect Cei-riggoti players

midnight nimbus
#

Federov kinda sucks

#

all the top PC sweaties used 1907 Factory

cursive quartz
#

federov got nerfed in last ttk update

inland valley
#

aww man and i liked it

stoic breach
#

1907 Factory was super aggressive wasnt it?

cursive quartz
#

yeah

midnight nimbus
#

Federov never got nerfed

inland valley
#

OH YES

midnight nimbus
#

only buffed

cursive quartz
#

40 damage up close

midnight nimbus
#

1907 Factory is ridiculously good

stoic breach
#

I could never get into it

inland valley
#

1907 SPAM I LOVE IT

midnight nimbus
#

top tier pubstomping gun

#

just click to kill everyone

#

it's the G 1-5 of BF1

cursive quartz
#

i hate the level 10 gun

#

for medic

inland valley
#

its ok

#

it just takes some getting used to

cursive quartz
#

i have to get 300 kills with that pos

#

to unlock all guns

inland valley
#

oof

midnight nimbus
#

1906 πŸ˜‹

inland valley
#

good luck

midnight nimbus
#

one of my most used guns

stoic breach
#

Getting 300 kills with the Martini Henry was just a massive grind

midnight nimbus
#

it's so good

cursive quartz
#

its good for killing one person

#

but after that

midnight nimbus
#

nah you can squeeze 2 out of it

cursive quartz
#

with heads

stoic breach
#

1906 was an absolute skill cannon

midnight nimbus
#

i used to have >50% accuracy rounds with the 5 round semis

#

with like 2-3 KPM

#

just click better

cursive quartz
#

it was one of the most accurate guns in bf1

midnight nimbus
#

and position well

cursive quartz
#

yeha

stoic breach
#

You can use the recon "just hit headshots" argument for the 1906

cursive quartz
#

you cant go balls in with it

stoic breach
#

And it would actually make sense

cursive quartz
#

one gun that everyone slept on was the vertelli

stoic breach
#

Cause the 1906 doesnt need headshots to be a good weapon

inland valley
#

man i just feel stupid now that i have 12 service stars with the fedorov while you cool people use the 1906 and cei riggoti

stoic breach
#

My highest kill weapon is only 26 service stars

#

I swapped weapons around alot

#

And I still do in BFV

cursive quartz
#

mine is 54 with ribeyrolles factory

inland valley
#

nice

#

Eyy got my rolls royce smg thing

stoic breach
#

I got like 16 service stars with the Hellriegel, then 17 with the Hellriegel Defensive lol

#

Defensive was super fun to use

formal crane
#

i have 900 service stats with the AEK

inland valley
#

**YOU DID WHAT HOW DARE BRING SUCH DESTRUCTION TO THIS REALM YOU MOSNTER YOU MADE MILLION SUFFER UNDER YOUR WRATH AND YOU STILL FEEL PROUD ABOUB IT **

stoic breach
#

Thats really sad

formal crane
#

nah man

stoic breach
#

I feel proud about using the Defensive

inland valley
#

**ok **

stoic breach
#

I unlocked it in two days and absolutely destroyed people with it

#

In servers

#

It was alot of fun

midnight nimbus
#

yes, if you can't headshot, 1906 is still very usable

#

and high skill to use

#

good aim is just the minimum bar to make it work

inland valley
#

my prayers go out those those people

stoic breach
#

Ye

midnight nimbus
#

you need good positioning to get more than one kill

inland valley
#

tru dat

stoic breach
#

I kinda wish the 1906 was the same as it was in BF1

#

In BFV

inland valley
#

a lesson i should have learned but never did

stoic breach
#

Oh yeah @inland valley I was going negative in a match trying to unlock the Hellriegel Defensive but once I unlocked it I started going positive in the same match and I think I doubled my match k/d

#

Ballroom Blitz actually switched me on

inland valley
#

ok imma just like stop breathing

stoic breach
#

But then I felt like I could be doing better so for the last few months of playing BFV I got to 26 service stars with the M1912/p.16 Machinepistol

#

And then pretty much stopped playing

inland valley
#

ok

stoic breach
#

I saw someone with 41 SS and felt inspired

#

But I didnt make it that far unfortunately

inland valley
#

looks at his 2 service star automatic 8.25 Nice i am proud of you

stoic breach
#

Lol

#

Mine?

inland valley
#

no mine

#

i am stupid

orchid shore
#

lord of god
we getting a 2nd hotfix

stoic breach
#

πŸ—Ώ

orchid shore
#

if this hotfix doesn't work at all for PC, then i guess BFV dies then

inland valley
#

is it really that bad

#

wow i didnt even know

orchid shore
#

see LevelCapGaming recent video or let me break it down for you

solid hinge
#

when's the hotfix

#

when is sudan big modes

#

is sudan coming with the hotfix

orchid shore
#

nope

inland valley
#

i have seen the video but like i didnt know it was this unplayable

orchid shore
#

let me break it down for you

#

FPS performance has been fine at launch but never since then, it just gotten worse

inland valley
#

ok

solid hinge
#

oh my god

inland valley
#

this happend to my bf1 on pc

solid hinge
#

why is sudan even in the game

#

it might as well not be there

inland valley
#

lol

solid hinge
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fuck squad conquest and fuck tdm

orchid shore
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its for squad conquest and tdm

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and even so

solid hinge
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fuck those modes

orchid shore
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FoV broken over there too

inland valley
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jesus anything else borken

solid hinge
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ive said it before and ill say it again

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dice is racist

stoic breach
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Vrother

inland valley
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ok...

quiet ingot
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look

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ok

inland valley
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how

muted socket
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bait

quiet ingot
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1900 double shotty was the best ever

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and thats all u need to know

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ok

solid hinge
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mercury comes out in schedule

quiet ingot
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do u understand now

solid hinge
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what color is mercury? white

quiet ingot
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do u

inland valley
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nah

solid hinge
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sudan comes out way later

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what color is sudanese people? black

stoic breach
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Its sundan tho

quiet ingot
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o boy

stoic breach
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Not sudan

inland valley
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M I N D B L O W N

solid hinge
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but do you agree

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i dont think you could disagree

inland valley
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tbh lego nazis are more racist

muted socket
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question

how often do u leave matches early

inland valley
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i would guess very early

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if the issues are this bad

solid hinge
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hmmmmm

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isnt al sudan from the SP level tirallur