battlefield-legacy-titles

[broken steppe]

Stronk?

[chilly mural]

strong, referring to their position of power

[broken steppe]

Oh

[solid hinge]

I golded it recently so I should be able to remember

Which challenge specifically are you struggling with?

[broken steppe]

There is one

[chilly mural]

im on IV

the one that reads "under 10 meters"

[solid hinge]

I think that also has to be hipfire

[chilly mural]

ive tried that to no avail

any OBJ or stance i need to try?

[solid hinge]

the heck

Err

It might be ads instead?

It's definitely not prone

might be obj

[chilly mural]

ive been at this specific one for about 2 hours now

i thought i tried everything

maybe ill go back in a game and see if i missed something

[solid hinge]

You definitely have it equipped?

[chilly mural]

yeah

its the big goofy s u p e r l u g e r and its fun challenge, shoot people and an arbitrary way

ive tried cycling the game, my sign in, and the challenge

no dice

[solid hinge]

Its my favourite gun for sure

Have you made any advancements on it at all?

[chilly mural]

what do ya mean

[solid hinge]

Even just a tiny section?

[chilly mural]

no

no track at all

[solid hinge]

This is very odd

[chilly mural]

wait

[solid hinge]

It's possible the new bug that broke the specialisation broke the assignment too

[chilly mural]

i just got a double in hipfire

at about 3 meters

and i got 1 tick

[solid hinge]

!

there's something!

[formal crane]

AYLAAAA!!!!

[solid hinge]

maybe it meant like.. under 5 metres

[formal crane]

I missed you

[solid hinge]

instead of 10

[formal crane]

meme arrows

[solid hinge]

I miss me too babe

[chilly mural]

im angry, confused, and my super luger isnt SHINY ENOUGH

[formal crane]

ayla why you do me like that bby

me-meet me at the london

[hazy wasp]

@solid hinge I approve of the shades

[analog mist]

Little teaser https://i.imgur.com/JyzVp6y.jpg

[formal crane]

b17

[analog mist]

Shame you can't make out the name, but "Winnie" the Avro Lancaster was my fav.

[hazy wasp]

btw not to start a negative circle jerk, but is anyone else finding it hard to get motivated to play BFV recently

the preformance issues really killed my fun recently

[formal crane]

play bf4

bf4 bf4 bf4 bf4

classic, no bugs

[hazy wasp]

the irony in that is, the new traversal in V has ruined me on older titles 😛

[formal crane]

im the loadout girl, i got you with all the loadouts

[hazy wasp]

I can just play other games in the mean time, but just sad BFV isn't a draw

[chilly mural]

alright

[hazy wasp]

if they hased out the preformance systems and overhauled the assignments i think I;d be back on board again

[chilly mural]

i cracked the code

[formal crane]

I know that I'm gone
They see me blowing up, now they say they want some
I got two twin Glocks, turn you to a dancer

[chilly mural]

its under 5 meters, headshots in hipfire, and in PVP

looks like i have a fun day ahead of me

[solid hinge]

[formal crane]

Ayla!!!

[solid hinge]

they sure dont make it easy

[chilly mural]

yeah

[formal crane]

True

[chilly mural]

almost as bad as the LS/26

i got that god while it was bugged

[hazy wasp]

it'd be great if we had assignments that made us play objectives instead of gettign headshots

[solid hinge]

cute

[hazy wasp]

what a novel idea that would be

[formal crane]

😍

ayla is my hero

[fathom crown]

brbr

[hazy wasp]

actually lets crack open battlelog and check out the old assignments

[chilly mural]

hey, shut you are the up OBJECTIVE CHALLENGE LIKER

[hazy wasp]

Battlefield needs more non kill assignments, more objective assignments and the battlefield theme to play when we level up

[chilly mural]

true

[formal crane]

like battlefield 4

[chilly mural]

but the gun assignments should be based to the gun and its strengths and weaknesses

not about whether you can pop off on an OBJ

[hazy wasp]

the gun assignments should not have absurd headshot challenges associated with them but I don;t mind a reasonable kill count

[chilly mural]

yeah

[broken steppe]

Depends on the gun

[hazy wasp]

but they should also have soemthign associated with the role of the gun

so for a sniper, you need to spot people too

or for an SMG, throw heals etc

just to remind people of team play

[chilly mural]

bro

thats smart

[broken steppe]

What about secondary

[chilly mural]

call up the EA

also give us the golden liberator

[hazy wasp]

man nobody wants to listen to a ranty guy talk about their game to them

[chilly mural]

replace "20 heads in one game while enemies camp OBJs" to "100 kills with this weapon" and id be happy

[hazy wasp]

not even 100

50 would be fine

[chilly mural]

as someone who got all the bolt action rifles gold, i wont be fuckin offended if ea changed em

[hazy wasp]

Also kill counts should scale depending on weapons

Bolt action rifles should not require the same amoutn of kills as an Assault rifle

[chilly mural]

i like the new final challenges though

i feel they hit the spot perfect

[hazy wasp]

i mean I;ve done a ton of these challenges too, but I'd suck it up if they implemented a better system

[chilly mural]

25 in one game or 70 overall

i feel like if you deal with a gun that long you should get the gold

[hazy wasp]

I'd also reintroduce robbons back into the game and have them as the tracking method outside of kills

so get 5 medic ribbons ina round for part of an assignment etc

there is a level of ball busting for cosmetics that i find fine, but some of BFVs are stupid

[chilly mural]

SLR needs a change

i dont mind the bolties

[hazy wasp]

10 kills in the objective area in a single life only using headshots is fucking unbelievably dumb

[broken steppe]

But that's still objectives

[chilly mural]

especially when SLRs are DESIGNED not to be able to double tap

[hazy wasp]

also btw another big change

your weapon assignments are active when you are using it

not picking from a list

[chilly mural]

that would make me very happy

[hazy wasp]

idk who thought that idea was good but somebody should of told them otherwise

[chilly mural]

as a completionist id think that was amazing

[analog mist]

That would require the game to track client side, and not server side like it does now.

Which is part of the problem.

[hazy wasp]

Cache it locally and transmit it to the server during intermittant periods of the battle when its not too hectic so you can synch it

we could go on about this shit for hours lol, just makes me sad such obviuous problems are there

im sure there is a dumpster fire going on behind the scene these poor guys have to work through too

[chilly mural]

hol up with this talk, i finally got into a game on devastation for shotgun-hipfire-pistol-headshots

i cant waste my shot

[hazy wasp]

Shotgun on devastation is a good time,

[chilly mural]

yeah

using a luger as a shotgun is less of one

gosh dang it

now im on twisted steel because it wouldnt load me

🙃

[hazy wasp]

btw another thing I;d do say if hypothetically they were to do a Bad company 3, or a more comedic modern day BF

[chilly mural]

i heard thats the reason why this gmaes so rushed

[hazy wasp]

Have an entire boot camp section at the start with missions to teach you everything and make it entertaining

like CoD's killhouse stuff from MW1 and 2, but with that BF humor

[chilly mural]

they waiting on the PS5 for bfbc3 if the rumors are right

[hazy wasp]

some psycho drill sergent showing you how to do the basics, also vehicle use etc

Launch title with sony backed marketing is the rumor

i will believe it when i see it

[chilly mural]

just gotta hope

ah.

cant say tart with a d at the end

good to know

[hazy wasp]

oh we'll all buy whatever the next one is

thus is the vicious cycle

[solid hinge]

when the pacific content roles out they better not put the m1 garand in the recon class. its not a sniper rifle. it did have a special made x2 scope but was produced in extreme limited numbers and to select troops. i better not see a x3 or x6 on it and in the recon class or im gonna be pissed

[hazy wasp]

Garand will be assault

Recon will get the SPringfield 1903

btw, I don;t think the assault should have 3x scopes on their rifles

as fun as it is

[midnight nimbus]

yes, we should remove attachments that allow guns to be good at their intended jobs

[solid hinge]

its gonna be a slr

mark me words

recon with a bayonet spec

and it will be glorious

If it's a semi then it'll be the first semi with a bayonet

German supports would suffer with no lmgs

I guess they got the fg42

but still

English recons get fucked

no p08

Oh they'd have the boys though

talk about asymmetrical

boys vs p08

Boys > P08

It’s basically a BF4 Sniper

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/yiivaapeli/gif/FarWideeyedBirdofparadise

Couldnt stop laughing

Nah

Bro

Your just not doing it right

I play aggressive with the boys lol

I’ll crouch hip fire and just be all into people’s faces

It’s quite fun

acts like I miss

Bro I do long range sniping with a iron sight car

Kar*

It’s really not that hard

Kar > all else stil

Not quite

It’s a lot like csgo hipfire

ZH

the hipfire on the boys is nice but it's not usable at the same ranges the p08 is

P08 is a terrible weapon imo

[dusky badge]

Just hit a lag spike of 7000 ping

Holy shit

[solid hinge]

I get bored with it lol

No WAY

It is imo

I’d rather run bayo kar or enfieldis

[dusky badge]

po8 is a great weapon

[solid hinge]

The commando is meh

It's the only recon weapon that can actually wipe squads

Eh

I don’t need a 30 round Pistol

It’s kinda annoying more or less

Just aim lol

It's got mad good hipfire

[fathom crown]

having some fun with the m1a1 right now

the damage is just so low

[solid hinge]

And it deletes up close

hipfirez into a skull with the Kar

[fathom crown]

i know i have a good trigger finger with the ext mag

[solid hinge]

Ew

Revolver

Overrated

I personally don’t really see the point in the po8 either

Use the 1903 😤

[stoic breach]

Its overrated cause the other pistols are shit

[midnight nimbus]

P08 is good af

[stoic breach]

Its the best by default

[solid hinge]

A bolt action works aight in offense if youre good with your aim

Nah

[midnight nimbus]

out DPSes most SMGs in the game past hipfire range

[solid hinge]

Bolt > Semi p08

If you can’t confirm your kill using a bolt as sniper

[midnight nimbus]

P08 Carbine still kills faster than pistol swap meme

[solid hinge]

Your doing it wrong lol

Why even switch

Just aim the first time lol

If you dont get the headshot just let the gun cycle and shoot again

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

swapping is faster than getting a second bolt shot

[solid hinge]

I mean

Theirs not much of a benefit lol

Yeah you got a pistol kill woo

Like if it’s he liberator

Props to you

Is it tho

I’d respect it lol

But if your using the revolver

[stoic breach]

Theres no benefit to using a bolt that cant OHK

[solid hinge]

Theres a long ass recov from the animation

Bro play something else

[midnight nimbus]

700ms to just swap to the revolver

[stoic breach]

If swapping to pistol is faster

[solid hinge]

I dont use noob guns like the revolver

[midnight nimbus]

vs cycle time for bolts + another 300ms (minimum) to ADS

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge good man

Liberator is actually great

[midnight nimbus]

or just use an actual good gun

[solid hinge]

What are you talking about

[midnight nimbus]

like the P08 Carbine

[solid hinge]

Ive been killed so many times by a lucky revolver headshot

Lol

Revolver and P08 are crutch change my mind

Dont want to get cheap kills like that myself

[fathom crown]

"Lucky"

[stoic breach]

"Just hit headshots"

[fathom crown]

Revolver actually takes skill

[chilly mural]

got it boys

[midnight nimbus]

"cheap kills"

[chilly mural]

the gold super luger is MINE

[midnight nimbus]

scrub mentality af

[fathom crown]

no like for real i hit consistent headshots with the revolver

[solid hinge]

lol

Yeah I’d call a panicking level 23 turning around and one tapping me from hip pretty lucky honestly

[chilly mural]

revolver takes 0% brain power

[solid hinge]

Revolver isn’t hard to use

Like the 1911 I can live with

Happened quite a few times

[midnight nimbus]

avoiding effective methods of winning is peak scrub mentality

[solid hinge]

That thing is fun in general

Thats just one that really pissed me off

@midnight nimbus bro we lost by buying this game

😂😂😂

[stoic breach]

[midnight nimbus]

I didn't buy it 🤷🏼‍♀️

[chilly mural]

abusing the meta as the only way for you to kill is peak scrub mentality

[solid hinge]

Did they finally do RSP

???

[midnight nimbus]

free game, got my fun out of it

[fathom crown]

RSP is coming in like november

[solid hinge]

Lol

It’s taking them this long

No, abusing meta and thinking youre an above average player because of it is peak scrub mentality

[midnight nimbus]

abusing the meta is the absolute polar opposite of scrub mentality

[solid hinge]

Back to BF4 or 3 for me

[midnight nimbus]

play to win

[solid hinge]

Fighting over lame bs like this

Is scrub

Seriously

Lmao

Theirs no best gun

[fathom crown]

No no! You guys! We've been playing the PRE-ALPHA build of Battlefield V! The full Battlefield V game releases around the fall of 2019! Get ready!

[midnight nimbus]

scrubs abide these imaginary rules of fairness that don't exist in game

[stoic breach]

Sometimes the meta weapon isnt even the best weapon

[solid hinge]

It’s skull based lmao

Nothing wrong with needing extra help

Skill*

[stoic breach]

Nobody uses the AGm 🤷

[solid hinge]

But dont act like youre better than others because you do

@oblique parcel same as you lad

[chilly mural]

aye, i only do it for personal gratification

[solid hinge]

I left this game and meme on it occasionally

[chilly mural]

if you enjoy being carried by your weapon, so be it

[solid hinge]

I can’t do TOw anymore

[midnight nimbus]

nothing more casual than imposing imaginary rules on yourself to stop yourself from not winning harder

[solid hinge]

I mean

I kinda max ranked

[strong parrot]

smh doesnt everyone know by now youre only a good player if you spawn camp in a tank

[solid hinge]

Theirs nothing left there

Or just not using guns because you see no need to

@strong parrot spawn camp as a Stuka v-1

Pretty fun

Why would I use a gun I really dont need/want even if it was better

Tanks are cool to

[midnight nimbus]

gotta git sirlin pilled

[solid hinge]

@oblique parcel don’t need to be aggressive mate

😂

“ShUt ThE fUcK uP!”

😂

😃

Cringe

People still use that term?

I mean if your like 12

Oi whats that

Is that

Sure

2015? Asking for its edgy meme back?

[stoic breach]

[solid hinge]

Damn

What if we kissed by Snuttens anger 😘

Lmao

Lmao

Lmao

@solid hinge so how you doing mate

[strong parrot]

seems like its spectrum chat hour again

[solid hinge]

Probs is

[prime pine]

Ahhhhhh fuck

[solid hinge]

I’m just here to banter

I got nothing to lose lol

NA time kek

Yeet

[stoic breach]

I just woke up and reading the chat made me want to throw up

[solid hinge]

I know

The amount of ego is pretty ridiculous

[stoic breach]

I wouldnt call it ego

Just general

Angst

And I already had an argument with two people last night which went as well as getting insulted for being an xbox player in AU

[solid hinge]

Think someone said earlier that who cares about xbox players as long as pc is doing good

Think the topic was xbox performance and graphics

[stoic breach]

What the heck

Oh yeah speaking of xbox graphics

Players looking like rocks is just the greatest thing in the world

[solid hinge]

Rocks?

[fathom crown]

i played bf1 then played bfv and the difference between visibility is astonishing

bf1 is so clear

[stoic breach]

Cause of the soldier cosmetic colour palette

[solid hinge]

Theres a palette?

All I see is glowing white man sized blops of 480p mass

[stoic breach]

Like I get the point of camouflage but its mot really a stealth game

Even then, with the complaints about soldier lighting, thats only affecting soldiers in direct light

[solid hinge]

Mate if at this point youre having issues with visibility it’s definitely on you

[stoic breach]

I still got killed by a Sten camper I couldnt see under the Rotterdam bridge in squad conquest

Probably is

[solid hinge]

Theyve literally ruined the games graphics to let blind people see

Germans literally glow in their basic outfits

Even in direct sunlight

They glow like glowsticks

[stoic breach]

Yeah I understand that

But its like, they blended into rocks and shit before

So it was a mess from the start

[solid hinge]

Imo it was just fine the way it was

[stoic breach]

And the soldier lighting makes Fjell even worse so I guess thats a thing as well

[solid hinge]

Now the little immersion there was is gone

[stoic breach]

Rip Fjell

Literally can never be good

[solid hinge]

Fjell and Narvik are actually decent for me now

Because I dont see people glow

[stoic breach]

I also cant see people

[solid hinge]

Used to hate those maps but now they have that saving grace

[stoic breach]

I don't understand though

[solid hinge]

i still get plonked by people I dont see

[fathom crown]

^

[solid hinge]

Wish theyd give use the option to turn “better visibility” off

[fathom crown]

especially mmg campers

[solid hinge]

Hate that term as well

[fathom crown]

alright man

[solid hinge]

Mmgs dont have any other playstyle

[stoic breach]

Its just that MMG campers blend into the environment

MMGs are really bad weapons

Yeah

[fathom crown]

no i dont hate the idea that mmg users camp

[stoic breach]

I wish MMGs had a better range of options

[fathom crown]

i hate the idea that i cant see them

[solid hinge]

Also my answer to getting wrecked by mmg campers is to check those corners lol

[fathom crown]

Not just corners

[stoic breach]

Thats an extremely broad term though

[fathom crown]

they'll literally be sitting in the open and i cant see a thing

[solid hinge]

Heres the thing tho

You could not run out in the open

[fathom crown]

Ober like dude

do you not get what im saying

[prime pine]

An MMG user actually doing their fucking job defending an area is fine. Some asshole camping in the corner laying down is begging to be clubbed in the face.

[solid hinge]

I can definitely see your point though because it does happen to me too sometimes

But those situations theres really nothing to be done

Its just a thing you have to accept

Life aint fair

[prime pine]

In bf1 you could at least tell a machine gunner was on the ground

And there were very few areas in which someone could corner camp

[solid hinge]

Machine gunners didnt exist in bf1

[stoic breach]

Yeah cause of the player model and the soldier having a whole bunch of shit on him

They did

[prime pine]

Lmg

[stoic breach]

MMGs which would ads as well

[solid hinge]

Machine guns were just belt fed assault rifles in that game

Your playstyle wasnt any different from it

Any attempt at holding a position youd get shot by a sniper in seconds

[stoic breach]

LMGs and MMGs did have reverse spread though that made magdumping more viable

[prime pine]

The browning was the best in covering an area. But at least in that game. Places where there were good bipod positions were also sniper magnets.

So your paranoia would be kicking you over and over telling you to move

[solid hinge]

All in all though I think they should return to that system

[stoic breach]

Which system?

[solid hinge]

Because mmgs are useless because of snipers

BF1 system

[stoic breach]

Of letting them ADS without bipod?

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[prime pine]

They were true support guns

In bf1

[stoic breach]

Yeah, it wouldnt be hard to balance MMG ads either

[prime pine]

Cause you cant rush

[solid hinge]

But ofc make adjustments accordingly to balance

[prime pine]

You had to stay back

[solid hinge]

Bullshit you couldnt

[quiet ingot]

With ttk being where it is they can’t revert to that

[prime pine]

The parrabellum was the offensive lmg of bf1 anyways

[solid hinge]

You could rush all you wanted with bf1 lmgs

At least I did

And did bloody well

[quiet ingot]

Lmgs were stupid in bf1 after ttk 2.0, which is basically bfv ttk

They can’t go back to that

[prime pine]

Well you could rush unless you wanted to get shot up. Parrabellum is the closest you can get but subbies can still tear you up.

[quiet ingot]

They made assault smgs pointless and outclassed medics at range

[stoic breach]

MMGs while aiming in BFV could just have high spread but with a very active reverse spread system so you're encouraged to magdum and sustain fire to suppress enemies

TTK 2.0 was the best

What the heck

[quiet ingot]

Yikes

[solid hinge]

They could revert the system too actually

[quiet ingot]

Literally the nadir of the game

[solid hinge]

Accurate hipfire with bipod

Inaccurate ads without

[quiet ingot]

Playerbase hated it and playerbase dropped

Forums were on fire with posts about how bad it was

[solid hinge]

Would probably turn it into a mad smg tho

[stoic breach]

I never heard of a single person who hated having a better overall TTK

Whats wrong with it being faster paced

[solid hinge]

The game is pretty fast paced rn considering how bad the netcode has gotten again

[stoic breach]

Having high initial spread would make MMGs terrible SMGs

Which would be alright

At least you could aim and let reverse spread activate

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[stoic breach]

BFV netcode is so wack again

[solid hinge]

Doubt theyll do any changes though

[quiet ingot]

@stoic breach because having high rof, accurate guns with big range is awful for balance

Turned games into supports and recon

[solid hinge]

If they were to do any balance changes youd think they wouldve done em by now

But nah

[stoic breach]

Yeah

It sucks though, MMGs could've avoided the whole "prone meta" argument to begin with if they were better

Like, they arent good guns at all

[quiet ingot]

Mmg could have proper ads with awful recoil

Have to basically rip the mouse down the pad to control it

[prime pine]

I wasnt big into news while ttk 2.0 was a thing. Maybe thats why i loved my selbstlader 1916

[quiet ingot]

That would be OK

[tribal cairn]

That would be torture on Console

[fathom crown]

mmgs should have an insane amount of recoil

[quiet ingot]

^

[stoic breach]

Either high spread, low spread recovery and reverse spread

Nah it would be fine

[fathom crown]

honestly in real life no human being should beable to FULL AUTO lazer someone with an MMG

[stoic breach]

Just magdump

On console

[prime pine]

Playing on invert is fun stuff.

[fathom crown]

u play invert?

[prime pine]

Yep

[fathom crown]

weirdo

[stoic breach]

And let reverse spread make the weapon more accurate

[tribal cairn]

You sad human being

[quiet ingot]

Don’t have spread, let them ads and deal with nightmare recoil

[solid hinge]

Ofc you could fire an mg34 from the shoulder

[quiet ingot]

That’s the way it should be

[prime pine]

Its not even that bad haha

[solid hinge]

Its not actually that heavy if youre strong enough

[fathom crown]

if youre strong enough

[stoic breach]

Nobody picks MG34 over 42 cause theres no reason

[solid hinge]

But you wouldnt be able to shoot a full belt thats for sure

[tribal cairn]

Yeah, just 30 pounds of raw steel and brass

[stoic breach]

But imagine if MG34 was the tapfire MMG

[prime pine]

Mg34 i gota get mastery for that

[solid hinge]

From the hip definitely

[quiet ingot]

Bro no one is fucking firing a MG42 from the shoulder full auto

[fathom crown]

^

[quiet ingot]

Maybe Greg Clegane

[solid hinge]

Thats why I said mg34

[stoic breach]

Gameplay > Realism though

[quiet ingot]

Lmao dude it’s the same

[solid hinge]

It aint

[tribal cairn]

They mainly fired the MG-42 and 34 in 5 round bursts

[stoic breach]

Other games let you ADS with the MG42 with high recoil

[quiet ingot]

It’s a big ducking machine gun

[prime pine]

HANG ON

[quiet ingot]

It’s fuckhuge

[prime pine]

Oh right i cant post memes

[fathom crown]

i think 3d spotting would really counter mmgs

[stoic breach]

Why not let you ADS the MG42 with reverse spread

[prime pine]

Cause i got the perfect pic

For this

[solid hinge]

i dont see how 3d spotting helps counter corner campers

The mg34 is 12kg

Which isnt that bad

[fathom crown]

noo not the way u guys think

[solid hinge]

you dont get to point at them until you're dead

[fathom crown]

i mean the ones sitting out in the open

[stoic breach]

Passive 3D spotting by aiming would stop the whole "Q spam" issue

[formal crane]

AYLAAAAA

[prime pine]

We need the ping system to be reworked. Make it stick onto enemied

[stoic breach]

At least show the icon on screen

[solid hinge]

Wouldnt really be running about with it but it isnt impossible to shoot it from the shoulder

[prime pine]

Enemies

[tribal cairn]

That would be nice for snipers

[formal crane]

3d spotting in bf4 was god

[fathom crown]

ayla has a fan base huh

[formal crane]

i was a SUAV champ

[quiet ingot]

3D spotting is so dumb

[solid hinge]

that would also result in people just scanning the horizon to spot people they dont even notice

[prime pine]

Well thats a thing

[quiet ingot]

So so dumb

[formal crane]

Im the founder of the ayla subreddit

[solid hinge]

3D spotting can stay in bf4

[fathom crown]

i didnt mind that i loved it

[solid hinge]

Hated that

[fathom crown]

3d spotting to bfv!1!1

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

3D spotting was too easy to abuse

[solid hinge]

technically that's the whole point of recons

[formal crane]

join the ayla fan base

[solid hinge]

they just.. dont do it..

Imo the recon flare should be removed

Its just stupid

Free information

[stoic breach]

Just imagine it only worked up to a specific range depending on the gun, and you had to hold your aim on someone for a few seconds

[solid hinge]

imagine if the 14 recons on your team actually used flares and sco9ed

[stoic breach]

Free information is better for the team

3D spotting lets randoms help eachother

[formal crane]

Bf5 psh

[solid hinge]

i think the flare deserves to be easier to shoot down

[stoic breach]

The game should just tell you when you get spotted

For counter information

[solid hinge]

Thats not why people use it tho

They use it for free points

[formal crane]

ayla notice me :(

[solid hinge]

get 25 or so points for shooting a flare down and give it a bigger hitbox

[stoic breach]

Free points and information

[solid hinge]

And to camp at the back and snipe

[formal crane]

ayla is my hero

[solid hinge]

@formal crane pat

[quiet ingot]

Tfw ppl defend 3D spotting

[stoic breach]

You cant use flares to camp with

[solid hinge]

If the flare wasnt in the game we’d see more agressive play

[formal crane]

😄

[stoic breach]

Flare is the epitome of aggressive recon

[solid hinge]

Thats why operators like Lion in rainbow six have been op

[quiet ingot]

If OG martini Henry were in the game we’d have the perfect game

[solid hinge]

Because it makes the game unfun and stupid to play

[formal crane]

Lion isnt op anymore

since he just pings now

[solid hinge]

Well not anymore

[formal crane]

and mute usage is higher than ever

[stoic breach]

Lion was OP because he stopped people from moving for too long

[formal crane]

being within a jammer prevents the EOD from detecting

[stoic breach]

Not because he had walls

[solid hinge]

But we basically have his ability in the form of the flare

Free information for no effort slowing the game down

[formal crane]

Badmin #1 fan

[quiet ingot]

Siege

[stoic breach]

The flare is great because it lets people (intentially or unintentionally) communicate with randoms

[solid hinge]

Disagree there

[stoic breach]

And recons should be providing information to the team

Well its in the name

[quiet ingot]

Flare is fine. 3D spotting is not

[stoic breach]

Reconnaissance

[solid hinge]

Could just keep the spotting scope

[sand carbon]

just solo the other team

[solid hinge]

Because you have to aim it

And see the enemies

[stoic breach]

And the BFV ping can only be seen by squadmates

[solid hinge]

Thatd be way befter

Better*

Planes could keep their flares

[stoic breach]

The spotting scope is only good for 3D spotting but since 3D spotting isnt in the game its only good for squads

Since only squads can see the ping

[solid hinge]

Spotting scope spots enemies tho

You dont have to use it as a ping binocular

[stoic breach]

But its just generally more effecting for aggressive play to use the flare

I think the problem mostly just stems from people not knowing they've been spotted

[solid hinge]

Yeah it is but I think the flare is bad for the gameplay overall hense im proposing to have the spotting scope be the only way to spot enemies

[stoic breach]

Like, if the game said "you've been spotted" on the screen alot of people would be able to use that info

[solid hinge]

It would take effort and it would promote plane flares and give them a bigger role

[quiet ingot]

Bro

U can literally look up

And see the flare

Use ur eyes

[stoic breach]

The plane flares dont work on maps that dont have planes tho

[solid hinge]

Then those maps dont need flares

[stoic breach]

They definitely do

[solid hinge]

Imo its not fun gameplay to see where enemies are 24/7

anyone know if bad company 2 still has some populated servers?

Its just a way intrusive wall hack

Prolly the wrong word to use

[stoic breach]

Maybe for you, but not knowing where you died from is arguably more annoying for most people

[solid hinge]

How is that related tho

[stoic breach]

Spotting scope doesnt stop hill camping

[solid hinge]

rip

er

[stoic breach]

Its kinda more condusive to it

[solid hinge]

arent flares like

The opposite of camping tools

Are you implying you have to have a flare to rush?

[quiet ingot]

It’s literally just radar

[solid hinge]

Cause they actually let you see the enemies

[stoic breach]

You could and its a good idea

[quiet ingot]

Spotting is a wallhack

It’s COD vs actual wallhacks

[solid hinge]

At least there should be a way to make it harder to spot

Even in COD you need a 3 man kill streak to get the radar

[stoic breach]

Why would you wanna make it harder for recons to do their job though

[solid hinge]

Bf5 you can carry infinite amounts

[quiet ingot]

Recon should have a sidearm shotty no joke

[solid hinge]

id support making flares last longer but having an increased reload time along with making flares easier to shoot down and giving points for it

[quiet ingot]

Like a double barrel shotty

[solid hinge]

I’d be happy with that ayla

[stoic breach]

Recon should just have good bolt actions

[solid hinge]

They do

Its called the k98k

So if no one shoots them down they're even better but they actually have to be played against

i insist the kar is the worst bolt in the game

[stoic breach]

Krag is statistically better

[quiet ingot]

Wat

[solid hinge]

Not a fan of the krag

Interesting gun

[quiet ingot]

Which has a higher bullet speed

[solid hinge]

But not for me

[stoic breach]

But if spotting and free information is a problem then why wouldnt you want the game to tell people when they've been spotted

Krag and Kar have the same muzzle velocity and damage

[solid hinge]

Back to the flare though, think they could have a bigger hitbox and make it take a few seconds to spot to give players time to counter it

[bronze grotto]

oh shit xp tracker says i have to be at least rank 15 already

[quiet ingot]

So kar is the best then

[bronze grotto]

tfw still at rank 4

[quiet ingot]

I hate the krag

[solid hinge]

Also krag doesnt take stripper clips

[stoic breach]

Krag fires faster and has less drag then the Kar

[solid hinge]

So slow reload

[quiet ingot]

Well kar doesn’t have stripper clips at 3x and 6x

So...

[solid hinge]

Assuming I use those

[quiet ingot]

Do u not

[solid hinge]

Sometimes 3x

Usually irons

[quiet ingot]

6x or bust

[stoic breach]

I'm pretty sure its just irons

[quiet ingot]

Make their head fill up ur screen

[solid hinge]

For clips yeah only irons

But I use 3x sometimes

Mostly iron sights

[quiet ingot]

I think the 2x takes too

[solid hinge]

Dont bully the krag

[quiet ingot]

No u

[solid hinge]

Yeah all the 2x take leave the receiver open

the krag has a reasonably fast reload if you leave one in the mag

On some guns the 3x is mounted forwards from it

it's like twice the length if you shoot all six

[stoic breach]

Do you use iron sight Kar up close or at range

[solid hinge]

The k95 for example

Because of the mauser magazine system

Both razen

kar has higher damage in exchange for lower rof making it the WORSE sniper because you should be getting SICK dinks

[stoic breach]

Up close theres no point when the Tromboncino exists

[solid hinge]

T-Tomorrow?

[prime pine]

Its got better velocity

[solid hinge]

Tromboncino

Pfft

K98K or bust

[prime pine]

Plus its a hot fix that will "fix" the crashing.

For xbox one

[stoic breach]

I hate the mentality of calling the Tromboncino an "easy" bolt action

[prime pine]

Oboy

I wonder what else will break

Its totally not like the game is broken enough

[stoic breach]

Its also a one shot headshot so by all intents and purposes it has the same skill requirements as a recon bolt

[solid hinge]

wow

I just like the karabiner more

Because it was the german main rifle

The trombone has an easier time following up shots if you miss though

[prime pine]

Its not a OHKO headshot at all ranges

[solid hinge]

And it looks hella cool

[prime pine]

The trombone

[solid hinge]

the rof is so much higher

[stoic breach]

Who cares if its not at every range

[solid hinge]

Like the iron sights too

And I really dont like italian guns

[prime pine]

You'll care when you make the shot only to be left with a red hit marker

[stoic breach]

Its a one tap in the head at the range you want to be useful to your team at

[prime pine]

Selby 1906 here.

[solid hinge]

You know what else is a one tap to the head

The karabiner

[stoic breach]

I understand not liking italian guns, i dont like russian guns that much

Yeah the Kar

[solid hinge]

Dont like russky guns either

[prime pine]

The MAB is the only submachine gun i actually fucking like

[solid hinge]

The mosin is aight

And tbf modern aks are quite nice

[prime pine]

Snooper rifle!

[stoic breach]

Kar98 is my top weapon lol

I shit on it but I have the most kills with it

[solid hinge]

🙏

it's an inferior krag and i will never let it up

[stoic breach]

Just buff bolt actions 😩

[prime pine]

Oh shit alright. Thats a fictional rifle. In rtcw...

[solid hinge]

Who wants to use an old weird magazine krag rifle

ME

[stoic breach]

Let bad players be useful to the team and allow good players to bask in their glory

[solid hinge]

When you can have a german karabiner made by mauser

[stoic breach]

One shot body shot is the point of snipers

[solid hinge]

flicking the bullets in the side slot is the sexiest thing in the game

[stoic breach]

Sweet spot was good because it wasn't infinite range

[solid hinge]

I used to play bf4 hardcore with the L115 3x

[prime pine]

Oh shit. The snooper rifle in rtcw is a silenced m1a1 rifle with a thermal scope LMAO.

[solid hinge]

So I can say one shot bolts would be broken as fuck

[stoic breach]

Boys AT is meta because you can be invisible with it

[solid hinge]

It’d be fun

For me

But not for anyone else

[prime pine]

No one would be willing to deal with BFH sniper balance ever again.

[solid hinge]

My tag?

[prime pine]

Every fucking time im reminded of that its that 300. Knockback .

[stoic breach]

I wish I got to use it

BF1 did OHK well

[solid hinge]

I dont understand why the bolts on release had glint like a fucking lighthouse

But the boys gets to use irons and has a spec for no muzzleflash

[stoic breach]

Rainbow scope glint to tell people when they'd get got

[solid hinge]

my tag is yiivaapeli on xbox

[stoic breach]

Boys AT needs rainbow scope glint

[solid hinge]

Like.. they did a complete 180 turn on what they were going for

Yeah

[stoic breach]

Haha

[solid hinge]

I don't care if someones using a regular bolt but I want to know if the boys is in town

[stoic breach]

Boys AT balance gang 😩

[solid hinge]

Get rid of the fucken reduced muzzle flash mod as well

[fathom crown]

asaaf ``sD fSfd]\ g gewf h

[solid hinge]

It's a damn anti tank gun

[stoic breach]

Yeah I wouldn't mind that

[prime pine]

Thy fuck

[stoic breach]

Like, as a recon Boys main I actually want it to be more balanced

[topaz dome]

maybe make the gun louder?

[solid hinge]

Imo it should have a sweet spot of 50-100m

Anywhere outside not a ohk

[prime pine]

25-100 M even

[stoic breach]

Boys AT should be able to ads with a slow ADS time

[solid hinge]

That would be silly

[stoic breach]

Anti-quickscope

Punish people who cant aim

[solid hinge]

Imagine being hit by an anti tank gun at point blank and it not killing you

I mean

Imagine getting hit by an 88mm flak gun and taking 17dmg

[stoic breach]

Haha

[prime pine]

Surprised we cant even use those

[stoic breach]

Buff MAA dicepls

[solid hinge]

it's okay my shins are prosthetics

[prime pine]

The flak 88's

[solid hinge]

We can

The tiger has it

[prime pine]

Right

I mean the emplacements. People would be fucking hot over those.

[stoic breach]

But yeah, balance Boys AT, buff bolt actions

Wait a sec

[solid hinge]

Still cant believe those mad lads put a fucking 88mm into a tank

[stoic breach]

Bolt action suppression to stop medic self heal

[solid hinge]

Have you seen the fucking size of that gun

[prime pine]

They were ahead of their time

[solid hinge]

Maybe a bit too much

[prime pine]

Fucking sturmtiger wasn't mean to originally hold a 380Mm i believe.

But they some how did it

[solid hinge]

Worked pretty well too for the few times they shot it

They built like 18 of those

Think like two saw action

give the weaker bolts better body shot damage

boost velocity

unrevivable headshots

Nah

bolts now rule the sandbags

Imo the last thing snipers need is buffs

Unless you want conquest to turn into ww1 with scopes

The krag literally does 54 damage on a body shot

[quiet acorn]

I'm mad

[solid hinge]

On a limb hit it does 50

With the current patch?

[stoic breach]

The AGm does like 50 damage on a headshot

Lol

[solid hinge]

That would be shit even in a game where you cant activate self heal immediately

[quiet acorn]

I've been crashing on Xbox since the patch that was supposed to fix crashing on xbox

[solid hinge]

Not with the current patch

It always has done

Whats the current multiplier

Theres another one coming hanz

Is it 120 or 150

[stoic breach]

The current bolt action model fits CSGO more than it fits BFV

[solid hinge]

Fucking changes weekly so I dont know

No idea

[quiet acorn]

Thanks for telling me

[solid hinge]

I just know my krag

[quiet acorn]

I've crashed 3 times today

Make that 4

[solid hinge]

Might be worth playing something else until it gets sorted

There was a dude earlier who crashed 54 times before it worked

[quiet acorn]

K

[solid hinge]

Yeah might as well take a break

I play like once a week

The game just aint worth it anymore

[quiet acorn]

When is le patch coming out?

[solid hinge]

The patch that fixes the game?

[quiet acorn]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Dont think even god knows that one

[stoic breach]

Apparently week after next

[solid hinge]

And whos to say that even works

[stoic breach]

Probably wont

[solid hinge]

Allegedly another hotfix in two days

[quiet acorn]

My confidence in this game's future is falling like GameStop's stocks

[fathom crown]

im just patiently waiting for the fall

new factions,

maps,

[solid hinge]

I just cant believe that its actually getting worse

[fathom crown]

hopefully a stable game by then

[solid hinge]

I see new bugs on reddit everyday

[fathom crown]

^^

[stoic breach]

Waiting for DICE to revert attrition and base the game around being useful solo as well as in a team

😩

[quiet acorn]

The first thing I'm doing is blasting the imperial anthem and doing Japanese war tactics in planes

[solid hinge]

And I hopped on today

And saw this

[stoic breach]

Good luck fighting against plane physics

[solid hinge]

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/yiivaapeli/gif/FarWideeyedBirdofparadise

And I couldnt stop laughing

[quiet acorn]

I'm not good at planes

But I don't think anyone is

Just slap the plane physics from bf1

[stoic breach]

Yeah thats terrible

[quiet acorn]

It was amazing

[stoic breach]

The game used to have the BF1 plane physics pretty sure

Really arcady but with a high skill gap

[quiet acorn]

Now I'm either going kamikaze or bailing out

[solid hinge]

Current plane meta is to just hit brakes and steer up

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Realistic combat

[stoic breach]

But not very

Uh

Idk, not much variety

[quiet acorn]

The Japanese war tactics help

[stoic breach]

I mean, when you base plane physics on weight and speed

And bombers start winning dogfights because of their weight

Idk chief

[solid hinge]

Speaking of planes, I also saw this in the same game

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/yiivaapeli/video/76892642

[quiet acorn]

I'm gonna join a game of mercury

[solid hinge]

Very realistic

[quiet acorn]

Hope it works

Also landing planes is a pain in the ass

You think you have it

[wary tapir]

Any news on upcoming new Elites?

[stoic breach]

Bombers 😩

Especially people who cant fly

[quiet acorn]

But your plane bumps on a pebble and later cheif

I love tanks

[stoic breach]

Yeah you think you can aim in a tank as well

Bump a pebble

[solid hinge]

Dont even get me started on tanks

[prime pine]

I like playing all the vehicles. Sorta. I dont bother with fighters.

[formal crane]

get me started on battlefield 4

[stoic breach]

Fighters are fucking pointless anyways

[quiet acorn]

It's annoying as hell when someone surrounds you and you can't do anything about it

[stoic breach]

When your job is to kill other planes, aka like 3 people on the enemy team

One single yike

[solid hinge]

One assault, ONE can take you down

[prime pine]

Fighters keep the skys clear and guide bombers.

[solid hinge]

Tanks are so useless without infantry

[quiet acorn]

7th crash today

AAA quality

[stoic breach]

Tanks shouldnt even be operating without supports to repair

But nobody knows how to repair either apparently

[broken steppe]

That was a UFO

[solid hinge]

For a quick balance change I’d say make it so that dmg doesnt interrupt repair

tfw you're in a tank on the flattest surface known to man and it still bounces

[stoic breach]

The best tank strat right now is to spawn either a MK8 or a Panzer IV, and let your squadmate drive so you can use your 2x repair speed

Infinite tank

[prime pine]

Hell. Maybe even damage halves the repair itself or reduces the speed of it.

[solid hinge]

That got fixed Ayla

It fuckin didnt

[prime pine]

It still fucking bounces

[solid hinge]

It fuckin didnt ;_;

I know it happens every tank spawn

Fucking dice man

[quiet acorn]

I'd say make it so that if you aim down enough the splash damage would kill someone close enough to you

[stoic breach]

Doesnt happen if you camp in a tank lol

Tfw

[prime pine]

Its impossible to fire straight while moving

[stoic breach]

Tanks are balanced specifically to camp

[solid hinge]

Its the same problem as mmgs

I'm starting to get pissed at the amount of times they've said they've fixed stuff and blatantly havent even reduced the amount of times it happens

They only have one option

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[prime pine]

Their shitty decisions fucked over tanks

[stoic breach]

And planes

[quiet acorn]

This game isn't savable

[prime pine]

They dont even tell us what changes they have to damage.

[quiet acorn]

This isn't battlefront 2

[stoic breach]

Yeah MMGs and Boys AT encourange camping more because of the bipod requirement

[quiet acorn]

This ain't seige

[prime pine]

Thats true. Hanz.

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah

[quiet acorn]

I hate to say this

[stoic breach]

Panzer IV Pak 40 and Smines

[quiet acorn]

But battlefield is fucked

[stoic breach]

And flares

[solid hinge]

Debatably siege is shit again

[stoic breach]

Do wonders

Siege got a new wave of hackers so eh

[quiet acorn]

It's ok

[solid hinge]

On console its just spawn rushing every game

And idk why but I always get matched with diamonds in casual

Like bruhh why

[quiet acorn]

On console it's "damn it recuit"

[prime pine]

Dont know anymore. I'll participate in ToW but i wont actually play seriously until the game is fixed (that'll never happen) and the rank increase goes in place.

[solid hinge]

Dont worry

[quiet acorn]

I want Outpost back

I liked that game mode

[solid hinge]

U can buy the levels with boins so u dont miss out

For the cheap price of $90

Dont forget to get the $30 premium pack too

And might as well get the $40 starter pack

[prime pine]

Fixed is reduced crashes and at least 3 bugs that dont get in the way of anything.

[stoic breach]

Its cosmetic only though, those people just get sucked in

[quiet acorn]

Oh and you want E A R S T? BETTER get B O I N S

[solid hinge]

And now that you’re spending get the $5 starter pack as well

Also get the $10 elite

[coral fiber]

Can we all agree the kubelwagon is the best transport vehicle and others are shit

[solid hinge]

imagine spending money on a game that stops working 8 months after release

[quiet acorn]

Yes

Kübelwagon IS god

[solid hinge]

$175not bad

[stoic breach]

All transport vehicles in BFV are shit

[solid hinge]

The American one has an advantage of more doors to jump into

[stoic breach]

They're too slow

[quiet acorn]

I have more kills on that thing through running people over than I do any allied tank

[solid hinge]

Add in the base game price and its $235

[coral fiber]

Kubelwagon is godly

[prime pine]

Bfh was more functional than this.

[solid hinge]

Battlefield heroes was the shit

What

[prime pine]

Hardline has been out for four years

[solid hinge]

Hardline came out in like 2015

So unless its 2023 idk man

[prime pine]

HA watch there people still be playing

[coral fiber]

I'm sorry to say this
I don't regret getting Ernst
Don't @ me im sorry

[stoic breach]

BFV cant get good until they remove attrition in the base multiplayer

[prime pine]

This many months into release and BFH was more functional.

[stoic breach]

They can keep it in 5v5 idc

[quiet acorn]

J like earnst

[solid hinge]

At this point tbf

[stoic breach]

But it straight up ruins the game

[solid hinge]

Dont really care what they do

As long as the game is playable

[quiet acorn]

But I'm not paying for a skin in a game I can barely play because of crashes

[stoic breach]

Literally just reverting attrition and swapping AR and SMG classes around

Assault should have SMGs and Medics should have AR

Legit just those two changes

[coral fiber]

@quiet acorn same

[solid hinge]

Big changes will never happen

[stoic breach]

Would infinitely make BFV better

Yeah I know

It sucks

[quiet acorn]

Yeah

Skins and elites are the same

[coral fiber]

Yes

[quiet acorn]

Just one is shiny

[prime pine]

Dont rely on DICE to do anything meaningful for the game. Just witness them slip and fall and lets all laugh at their sorry ass.

[coral fiber]

shiny

[solid hinge]

I dont see the point in elites with the current customization system