I switched from the Kar98 to the Boys AT cause OHK snipers are actually useful
#battlefield-legacy-titles
stoic breach
solid hinge
No kidding lmao
bronze grotto
are the new guns buyable for coins
solid hinge
I like the lee cause of fire rate but the gewher is my baby
stoic breach
So you could probably tell that I do like sniping
stoic breach
I like pushing people with it
bronze grotto
new combat roles? 
stoic breach
Commando is statistically better than the Lee Enfield in every way
Trombone is the best sniper in the game
Other than Boys AT
No scope glint while using 3x scope, straight-pull, good hipfire, 100rpm bolt, grenade launcher
Headshot up to 50m (actually useful engagement range)
Recon bolt actions are chump weapons
Trombone is more skill-cannon than recon bolts
stoic breach
It was either 50m or 70m
naive thunder
Has there been any news about the next upcoming Battlefield? BFV was a major disappointment to me & I've been playing since BC2, really looking forward to one thats going to be done right 
stoic breach
how would there be news not even a full year after BFV
solid hinge
Lmao
naive thunder
I heard there were leaks about the new BF a while back 
solid hinge
Bfv is good at the core
bronze grotto
inb4 bf6 is going to have actual p2w mtx
solid hinge
If that happens im never playing bf again
stoic breach
BFV is definitely not good at the core
stoic breach
I am good at the game
Guess that makes me a real human bean
The game doesnt really reward good teamwork as much as it punishes a lack of it
Crate aura is genuinely a massive gamechanger for BFV
But its been in other BF games for ages
You will always do better than the majority of players just by using a mic, because they'll be at more of a disadvantage than you are advantaged
solid hinge
The infantry play is good. The movement speed is better than bf4 and i think in some ways the change of pace is good. A battlefield is never good until about a year and a half later
stoic breach
Movement is good in BFV, sliding is nice
Crouch sprinting doesnt have any drawbacks though
Should be slightly slower sprint speed
Infantry should be able to regen to 100hp after a gunfight, but not when suppressed
Making the support class better than it already is
humble dew
Hey i think ive a bug i cant buy the new mmg is this a bug or i miss something about updates?
stoic breach
The medic revive animation is way too long as well
Should be half a second and not two seconds
stoic breach
The new MMG just isnt available for a week
feral grotto
Your opinions are stupid razen.
No offense
stoic breach
AP mine got nerfed too much imo
stoic breach
MMGs should be able to ADS and should have reverse spread while doing so
cky, how would you improve the game then
solid hinge
You sound like an mmg player...
stoic breach
I hate mmgs
they're too slow for me
I main suomi on medic
complete opposite of mmg playstyle
feral grotto
First of all I wouldn't make stupid suggestions that willdestroy the gamr
stoic breach
did you ever play BF1
feral grotto
It was awful .. looked good tho
solid hinge
Not really lmao
stoic breach
Most of the time
feral grotto
Infantry now can survive as well ...
stoic breach
Medics didnt have smgs and wouldnt die in cqb
Assaults should have smgs so they die first
Medics should have mid range power
solid hinge
Why
feral grotto
And they have mid range now anyway..
stoic breach
Have you ever seen more than one medic on Hamada
feral grotto
Yes
feral grotto
Yes
stoic breach
Its the map and the kit
solid hinge
I don't even see medics on hamada
stoic breach
If medics had ARs, they wouldnt die from range
solid hinge
feral grotto
If you stand like an idiot you'd die even with a tank
feral grotto
No.. cuz your arguments till now make total sense
stoic breach
nice
solid hinge
U can use smgs at any range if ur accurate enough
feral grotto
The mab at range is a beast
slow cradle
It just tickles at range though
feral grotto
Mp40 at range is the same as mab
slow cradle
Don't all the smgs have same dmg model
solid hinge
Not if u are accurate enough then i doesnt matter if it tickles
stoic breach
Smg range is dependant on muzzle velocity as well
feral grotto
It depends on who using them..
stiff dune
If I buy the scrim set for the s2-200 will it unlock the gun?
stiff dune
I didn’t get a chance to unlock it
feral grotto
That's not p2w.. but ok..
solid hinge
@slow cradle there's only one smg with a different damage model
feral grotto
You'll have to buy it for cc @stiff dune
stoic breach
They just need to be balanced
feral grotto
It will be available soon for people who didnt get it
solid hinge
Or removed
@stiff dune you can buy any gun after the tow, just gotta wait a lil
Lmgs are better anyway
stiff dune
Bet
solid hinge
Nd have risk
stiff dune
Will I be able to buy the po8 carbine I really want it
solid hinge
You already can
stoic breach
MMGs arent even really good weapons
stiff dune
How?
feral grotto
Go to replace weapon under recon
stoic breach
If BFV had 3d spotting then MMGs would get fucked constantly
stiff dune
Oh I see thanks
feral grotto
And unlock it
solid hinge
Go to your company and then check the recon weapon list
stoic breach
Thats another reason why BFV gameplay is wack
solid hinge
If you can snipe with and kill people in 1 second at range with zero recoil then its op
Also hipfire works for some reason
It shouldnt
feral grotto
Oh that's a surprise.. he want 3d spotting in bfv
stoic breach
Shotguns can instantly kill as well
feral grotto
What..a...shock
fathom pebble
3d spotting would be alright tbh
stoic breach
3D spotting can be balanced, you know 
fathom pebble
wouldnt mind since legit everyone just camps right now
feral grotto
Yeah cuz 3d spotting prevent camping
stoic breach
Would be a nice recon buff as well
solid hinge
Shotguns are nerfed with buckshot
stoic breach
You know, since the job of recon is reconnaissance
stoic breach
Buckshot should be buffed instead
stiff dune
Lol we need hardcore mood
bronze grotto
is the ls26 assignment fixed yet
fathom pebble
also sweetspot would be ok in this game tbh
stiff dune
Mode
solid hinge
And cqc battles are always won
stoic breach
Dude have you seen how effective slugs are in real life
You actually can snipe with them
fathom pebble
since you get zapped faster by someone with an AR and semi auto then 2 body shot with a sniper
solid hinge
Realism has no place in battlefield
fathom pebble
realism, what is this? Squad now?
stoic breach
Snipers right now are an absolute joke
fathom pebble
its not worth playing snipers
when you have 3 hit kill semi autos and self loading that 2 hit kill
feral grotto
Its just amusing seeing this..
stoic breach
Why
fathom pebble
and all have a faster kill rate because the bolt action is slow as fuck on sniper, maybe carbines but they have low dmg
stoic breach
Would a recon main not want a good bolt action?
Snipers are worthless with no instant bodyshot potential
feral grotto
Because by this chat I know what kind of players you guys are in game.. which is amusing
stoic breach
Bro
fathom pebble
enjoyable how the boys AT is an AT for Anti-tank rifle and literally is more used agaisnt players
stoic breach
I use it for both
Thats the experimentation part
I have like 4 tank kills
And I want more
fathom pebble
yeh Iam the kind of player who doesnt chill in a corner with their full golden mg42 and actually bother play the game without cheese using an AR or an mmg
solid hinge
Ck knows
stoic breach
Ck also likes to insult people who dont agree with him
feral grotto
If those things insulted you.. this isn't the place for you
stoic breach
Thats interesting
solid hinge
Yeah he isnt directly insulting u
stoic breach
Not today lol
Anyways, snipers with no one-shot potential are pretty worthless
Why would you want to stop snipers from sniping
fathom pebble
sweetspot isnt really OP, depending the one hit kill zone on the body
feral grotto
That one shot potential is called a headshot
feral grotto
...
fathom pebble
in BF1 was annoying because the TTK wasnt that good agaisnt that
stoic breach
"Just hit headshots" that applies to every weapon
solid hinge
Even more with a sniper
feral grotto
No it's not
fathom pebble
but right now how the gameplay flows and the ttk, sweetspot would make sense
solid hinge
Sweetspots are dumb. The head is the sweetspot
feral grotto
It would make sense at a certain skill level I guess
stoic breach
Tell that to your teammates camping at the edge of the map
Tell them to aim for the head
solid hinge
I wouldnt know im typically on the objective killing everyone
fathom pebble
Just aim to the head 4Head
stoic breach
I'm sure they're doing their best at the bottom of the scoreboard
sturdy osprey
Burn them all the bushes and buildings
fathom pebble
basically removes the whole mean of aggresive sniper
unless you use a p08 or a 2 hit kill semi auto
stoic breach
Sniper buffs would elevate good players into great players as well
And elevate bad players into mediocre players
fathom pebble
unlike BF1 you could be agressive with a bolt action sniper
solid hinge
Great players should be made by their own skill not by the game
feral grotto
It would be stupid to so as the snipers right now are just fine.
solid hinge
Snipers are fine i agree
stoic breach
I used to be aggressive with the Kar98 until I got the Tromboncino and Boys AT
solid hinge
It just takes skill
stoic breach
And the Kar98 was for clout, not because it was good
fathom pebble
yeh sniper are alright.
literally scope reflections on the hill like 100m+ doing nothing
feral grotto
If you can't be aggressive with a bolt action on bfv ... Might want to be a diff class
stoic breach
That makes the entire class made for camping
fathom pebble
I don't even bother
stoic breach
Great game variety
fathom pebble
I'll just use a semi auto since 2hit kill
can make you a better aggresive sniper lmao
fathom pebble
and besides the bolt actions dmg is a joke
stoic breach
fathom pebble
stoic breach
54 is crap when the drilling can do 71
lol
Snipers should have a base damage of 60
fathom pebble
snipe with the drillings slug
stoic breach
Yeah I do
fathom pebble
I know its more effective
stoic breach
I use the drilling for iron sight sniping
stoic breach
the way it should be
Watching your bullet fall out of the sky like a rock is amusing and all
But pointless
fathom pebble
literally a shotgun is better for range then an actual bolt action rifle
stoic breach
Especially when the muzzle velocity is terrible
solid hinge
Its a bolt action
stoic breach
Trombone is a bolt action too
solid hinge
Thats cause semis and medic bolts are easy mode
feral grotto
It's amazing how bad people are in the game .. Jesus..
solid hinge
Bolt actions take skill i mean
feral grotto
Not that much even..
stoic breach
You could say the revolver takes skill as well by your logic
fathom pebble
aim and HS snipers on the hills proning?
stoic breach
'Just hit headshots"
solid hinge
Personally cqc sniping is the easiest its been
Revolver is a one hit headshot
Which is possible
So yeah i do say that
feral grotto
Ah leave it.. this guy doesn't know there's a lot other playstyles than body shotting and probing and camping..
stoic breach
Yes sorry that I like the idea of a sniper being good
fathom pebble
stoic breach
Do you consider the AWP or Kraber overpowered because they're one shot kill
feral grotto
Guess Australians on Xbox got a diff game..
solid hinge
The kraber is different
solid hinge
wait we talking about apex kraber or tf2 kraber
slow cradle
Someone appears to have arrogant teenager syndrome
solid hinge
Yo tbh the snipers are good though. They are. I dont see any situation where they arent
solid hinge
Scope glint is good. Prevents camping
stoic breach
yes, scope glint is good
solid hinge
Having a three dimensional movement space combined with the biggest two modes having AI grunts to kill and everyone getting a small-arms proof titan makes the kraber questionable
steel agate
Yeah I agree, I can snipe snipers with my tank
fathom pebble
no one ever said it was bad either
stoic breach
But then when I suggested rainbow scope glint on the Boys AT I got ridiculed
solid hinge
The straight pull for kraber is slow
if you stay scoped with the kraber you're liable to get your ass beat as well
solid hinge
It is!
Honestly im not gonna shit on u about it but snipers are balanced. The only ones that arent are the high fire rate semis
stoic breach
Snipers are only viable against other snipers
The argument I tried to put forward was to increase their utility and effectiveness
solid hinge
I literally push the objective with my lee and top frag almost every match i do it
feral grotto
Only against other snipers?
solid hinge
Thats how it should be though
stoic breach
But for people who arent good at sniping, they default to hill camping
solid hinge
The game shouldnt be too easy
stoic breach
To try and crossmap other snipers
Buffing snipers wouldnt make them easy
Sniper sweetspots didnt make snipers instant kill at every range
feral grotto
And it won't stop camping
solid hinge
Tbh i feel like most of ur concerns would be met if the maps were different.
stoic breach
It would be the same in every map
solid hinge
Camping hill wouldnt be a problem if there was no hill to camp
fathom pebble
basically panzerstorm 
solid hinge
Because when u say this i think of aerodrome which is the worst map in the game
stoic breach
Man I love panzerstorm but its got a few kinks in the design
solid hinge
Like a million fields
stoic breach
Aerodrome is hill camper central
solid hinge
With no cover
fathom pebble
other thing I just want DICE to actually bother with
remove the AA's from maps without planes
k thx
stoic breach
Haha
fathom pebble
cheesing with that shit from like 200 meters away gives me BF1 PSTD with artillery trucks
solid hinge
Has that been a problem for u joker? Are u getting killed by aa guns fr?
feral grotto
If people want to take an AA against infantry.. let them
solid hinge
Ive never seen that
feral grotto
They gonna get destroyed pretty fast
gray glade
Hetzer, when dice?
solid hinge
Hetzer?
gray glade
hetzers gonna hetz
fathom pebble
I mean makes total sense use an AA porpused vehicle to target planes agaisnt infantary
on a map without planes in the air
solid hinge
People use the boys against infantry sooo....
stoic breach
Rightfully so
feral grotto
Bf Is a war game.. it shouldn't have to make sense..
fathom pebble
at least the AT rocket was a well done thing in BF1
solid hinge
Boys at was made for bad players
fathom pebble
focused for anti tank play
solid hinge
Cut and dry
stoic breach
It lets campers actually be scary
solid hinge
Campers shouldnt be acary
stoic breach
Cause lets be honest, bolt action campers are not scary at all
solid hinge
Camping shouldnt be encouraged lmao
stoic breach
They should be useful in some way
No it shouldnt
So let the Boys AT ads without the bipod
fathom pebble
I mean I do get the fun of the AT boys, also the way they made it slow bolt action, just basically a worse tankgewehr
stoic breach
solid hinge
They called it AT so people would be okay wih it being one shot. Its honestly some of the most laughable and unbalaced shit ive seen in a game
stoic breach
That would be cool
OHK weapons arent overpowered unless they can get 10 kills in 2 seconds
Its based on effectiveness
stoic breach
Boys AT is pretty well balanced, if you miss the chest you're just a bad shot
solid hinge
So its okay if its the chest but the moment we talk about the head its not?
stoic breach
The only "unbalanced" thing about the Boys AT is visibility
solid hinge
Even though that is totally possible and takes more skill
feral grotto
solid hinge
stoic breach
Its possible but not really viable
feral grotto
Oh God I lost it...
solid hinge
the body is a far easier target
feral grotto
Did anyone see it?
solid hinge
Just fix your sensitivity and u can do it
stoic breach
Emphasis on "not viable"
feral grotto
Razen sense is gone completely
feral grotto
I really liked the boys chest thing against the bolt action head shots
solid hinge
Im gonna screenshot it
stoic breach
Like I said, it makes you a good player lol
solid hinge
So then why do you think non good players deserve easy kills
Good players are the ones that deserve kills not bad ones
feral grotto
Being able to headshot with bolt action, doesn't make you a good player..
fathom pebble
feral grotto
It just mean you have an ok eye to hand coordination..
stoic breach
It means you're an outlier among bolt action users if you can hit headshots constantly
solid hinge
No it just means ur good with it. Whats the point in a competitive shooter if everyone can hit any shot
Youre asking for participation trophies
stoic breach
Thats the point of a first person shooter
Especially one like BF where you win by wasting the enemy team's tickets
feral grotto
The #stats channels does quite a good job explaining my returning questions about Xbox and PS4...
stoic breach
Participation is the entire point of the game
solid hinge
Omg
feral grotto
You have only people with bad scores or people with really great scores.. you do t have people in the middle on consoles
stoic breach
So you're console bashing to prove "a" point
feral grotto
Are you offended again?
solid hinge
Look razen. Youre cool and all but this mindset is ruining this game. Its whats spawning more mmgs and boys ats. Imma leave it at that.
stoic breach
yes, I feel like crying and emptying my pockets at the sight of you, a true gamer
solid hinge
Ill see yall later
stoic breach
Alright then, have a good one
feral grotto
That's how you acted the whole chat.. even without being sarcastic about it razen.
And yeah.. time to drop it..
feral grotto
From time to time, yeah
solid hinge
Esb?
feral grotto
? Huh
solid hinge
What league?
feral grotto
I'm just having clan wars.. no leagues..
On other shooters we had leagues
Last time I actually was in a official league was 06
solid hinge
If ur as good as im assuming u are u should check out esb. Pre season is almost over and the competition is crazy
feral grotto
Playing competitive doesn't have to be only what's on twitch
And nah I rather play myself than watch others
But thx
feral grotto
Nah.. I'm pretty much against competitive scene in cod and bf..
It ruin the game as it draw focus..
fathom pebble
I mean I'll just keep myself in rainbow or csgo
stoic breach
BF could do well with competitive for the people who want it
solid hinge
With the 5v5 mode coming out im so hype
stoic breach
CSGO is great for competitive above all though
feral grotto
Look for example at cod..
It used to have 32 and more people on a server ..
solid hinge
And ranked is coming too
stoic breach
I am excited for 5v5
feral grotto
But them competition ruined the games
fathom pebble
yeh last time bf and competitive happened aka incursions we saw the huge success 
solid hinge
Lmao bro what no its 8v8
stoic breach
I love squad conquest so 5v5 sounds great
stoic breach
incursions was at the end of BF1's lifecycle so it wasnt great
fathom pebble
the real last time DICE made success with BF was in BF4 partnering with ESL and made something out of it
stoic breach
I would've liked to play it if it was active
fathom pebble
that was actually interestin
solid hinge
5v5s are coming soon though. I just hope they arent sticking with preset classes
Cause thatd be super dumb
fathom pebble
wasnt it leaked the whole 5v5 mode?
solid hinge
Data mined
stoic breach
BFV's gameplay is ironically more suited for 5v5 than 32v32 as well
fathom pebble
and its literally gonna have the same class setup as before
stoic breach
Attrition wouldnt be that bad at high level ranked
solid hinge
Tuff
Yes im so pumped. But yeah if bfv partnered with esl i would be so hype
Right now theres only independent leagues
stoic breach
yeah thats the thing
It wouldnt be that bad for 5v5
Its made for a more competitive and communicative environment
It just doesnt work in 32v32 because you cant realistically have consistent 32-man parties
solid hinge
I think itd be useless in bfv ammo wise cause u already have 3 clips which youll raely use all of in one round u know?
For 5v5s
stoic breach
If you live long enough you wont run out of ammo like a true gamer
But yeah
health not being able to regen to 100hp works waaaaay better for 5v5 than 32v32
You're likely to have a medic with you at that point
solid hinge
I think it makes it more difficult which is good
You have to play around it
It makes u wonder if u should take the nxt fight or run back to a crate
Though crate placement should be reworked in some cases
quaint cape
In not a fan of bfv
solid hinge
U and a lot of other people
But it will get better
As much as theyve let the community down i have faith
quaint cape
it’s been almost a year now
stoic breach
yeah like, if you look at CSGO or Siege, it can get away with brutal gameplay because its 5v5
Casual 10v10 is worse than garbage so it doesnt count
quaint cape
Also it’s still pretty unbalanced
solid hinge
Its EAs fault. Theyre giving all of their effort to apex
quaint cape
and also I bought the deluxe edition what a joke
stoic breach
DICE are probably working on the next BF game already
solid hinge
Theyre both getting funding and investment from EA
Remember when they took away dice servers so they could help the launch of anthem
EA has more power than u think
stoic breach
Yeah that went well
orchid shore
who idea was that
stoic breach
Anthem was an absolute breakthrough 
solid hinge
Theyre who everyone needs to blame. DICE is only partly to blame
orchid shore
Anthem was actually unique game but who the heck thought that the game needed to steal servers from a other game?
stoic breach
EA isnt really a corporate boogeyman
orchid shore
stoic breach
Also I'd rather think about the 5v5 than anthem right now
And like how attrition is better suited for it
solid hinge
The 5v5 willhopefully breathe new life into the game
And bring a competitive audience
This game needs love so badly
stoic breach
I don't think it will, but it'll be a much better environment for squad gameplay
orchid shore
I really don't see how 5v5 will work
solid hinge
Read the data mine page
stoic breach
Its just interesting to think
orchid shore
but I do want to see how it executed though
stoic breach
Attrition was made for a more competitive mindset
solid hinge
Im worried about preset classes and tanks
stoic breach
But in casual MP it didnt work at all
Health should be able to regen to 100hp in base MP because its not a competitive environment
stoic breach
Like, if you survive a gunfight, you use a health pack, then get into another fight
No medics nearby? welp
No health box nearby? welp
solid hinge
Fight it out
stoic breach
you get hit by someone who noticed you first
stoic breach
Yeah like, you can fight it out but theres an extremely high chance you'll just get shot by someone you cant see
And so you'll get punished by the game's health mechanics
stoic breach
And you can only circumvent that by having a medic around
orchid shore
ah great
stoic breach
Which is great when you have a microphone and can communicate
orchid shore
level 21 in ToW now
stoic breach
The guns in BFV are pretty balanced
orchid shore
hmm mmgs 
stoic breach
I mentioned before that the Boys AT's visibility was the only "unbalanced" thing about it
solid hinge
Thts not balanced
stoic breach
Its tough to counter sometimes because you cant see it
orchid shore
problem is the visibility is kinda bad
stoic breach
But imagine if the Boys AT had rainbow scope glint, telling you you're about to be one-shot
Visibility solved for the most part
orchid shore
only if they improved it more then i would be able to see the enemy faster
stoic breach
yeah
solid hinge
Boys has no need being in the game. Imma leave it at that. Byeb uys
stoic breach
Sweet spots werent OP in BF1 because of rainbow scope glint
orchid shore
tfw there almost no servers for NA
stoic breach
Rip
orchid shore
it's on PC anyways
fleet bloom
do incendiary bullet specialisations for mmgs not work ?
stoic breach
They're completely useless
Because bipods don't let you aim up lol
dicepls
Let MMGs ads without the bipod
solid hinge
they only deal extra damage to planes
stoic breach
Hey ayla
Imagine if the map ammo and health crates had Aura
@solid hinge
the ones on flags
stoic breach
Nah it would be good as
At least if someone was camping near a crate, you could just piat the crate or something
muted locust
i have a question, (bf4) why do i get placed into an empty match even tho i wanted to join a almost full match in server selection
solid hinge
lying about player count to gain players
prime pine
Thats a way to turn people off
stoic breach
Admin abuse in BF4
solid hinge
I think it used to work when more than 300 people played bf4
muted locust
does anything "fix" that? like a plugin site which shows the actual playercouint?
solid hinge
I admin a popular BF4 server and its something I cant get the owner to realise doesn't work
to me it seems like a scam that preys on server owners, like if the other guys have it, we better have it too
I can only see it working if there's enough people playing that lots of people join the empty server
like.. before people load in and go "oh it's empty im leaving fuck this server"
frankly its worthless imo, but I dont pay so I just put up with it
if there's enough of a playerbase for lots of people to join its unnecessary to lie in the first place
muted locust
true
solid hinge
someone is making a tidy little sum every month from it, its not free
It's not even free??
😟
prime pine
Dear
warm atlas
I really wanna play some BFV but I don't wanna deal with crashes... 
Bad time to be an Xbone player.
upper topaz
Is there a Mosquito with the 6pdr?
I might actually play V cos I already own it via access
gray glade
Didnt someone here make like a comparison list between weapons?
raven siren
Which weapons?
gray glade
im looking for differences between kar98 and the krag
besides one having bayonett and the other a bipod
gilded wharf
anyone here a xbox Pilot?
raven siren
Hmm. You could look it up
gray glade
there isnt a symthic anymore afaik
solid hinge
Krag and kar both have bayonet and bipod
It's just which spec you pick
Afaik the only differences are damage and fire rate
and krag has a 6 mag
gray glade
ah right
echo glen
Kar= More damage per shot Krag=Faster RPM
solid hinge
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure im not
echo glen
is that a good thing or a bad thing?
gray glade
we really need tables or something to compare the weapons
rpm we can find in the game obviously but other stuff needs actual numbers
solid hinge
Yeah
It's a pain having to use other sites
Kht has some reddit posts comparing them
hoary condor
native yoke
Bunnyhopping shouldnt work =3=
solid hinge
I think im gonna cry
I watched some old FPS games
They feel like a war
Holy fuck
Gunshots screaming engine sounds etc
Now i understand how quiet BFV is
idle breach
War is pretty quiet.
idle breach
More extreme sound
solid hinge
OH
My life is a lie
I didnt know that was a thing
BUT STILL
No commander in the tank
WHY NOT ADD IT
idle breach
Add what?
idle breach
Oh like wot voiceline
solid hinge
And it feels amazing
idle breach
Would be nice I guess
solid hinge
But if a game developer cant add voices in a game they shouldnt even work on it
Bruh
I actually wrote about something on forums
About AA tanks being useless
U know what i got?
Hate
Salty pilots
This is why this games balance is trash
solid hinge
Yea but the community is a bunch of salty fighter pilots who dont want it
idle breach
Also full of salty anti-pilot guys
idle breach
Not many people actually care about balance
solid hinge
And i feel bad when a flakpanzer wastes 200 rounds on me and does 19 dmg
idle breach
I always did flying in bfv
solid hinge
BF4 has great AA tanks
midnight nimbus
flyboys in BF are the worst
solid hinge
Thats why we need aa tanks
midnight nimbus
you make an AA vehicle slightly effective and they all cry
solid hinge
Good @oblique parcel
midnight nimbus
BF4 MAA was fine
solid hinge
Good
idle breach
Are there players like
idle breach
Maining planes in bf?
midnight nimbus
when in reality all air vehicles could out range it
solid hinge
BF1 AA Arty truck was amazing
midnight nimbus
bronze grotto
midnight nimbus
bigboss is a god tier pilot
every time I've seen him on my team I'm like
huh guess the enemy won't have any planes up for more than 30 seconds at a time
timid zodiac
looserinos
midnight nimbus
yup
based af
he sits in the uncap and basically goes afk
honestly big brain af
solid hinge
His KD is higher than his spm
midnight nimbus
he's not forcing himself to do something he doesn't enjoy
midnight nimbus
oh yeah going AFK destroys your KPM in BFV
even if you aren't deployed on the field, BFV still tracks your time for some reason
just figured out why my KPM is so shit
like if you sit in the deploy screen all game, spawn in last second, and drop 10 kills in 1 minute, you're not gonna finish the round with a 10 KPM
epic busted tracking
that's not how every other BF worked
idle breach
no sence..
midnight nimbus
counting time not playing, when factoring how many kills per minute you get while playing?
idle breach
also in spm?
midnight nimbus
yea
solid hinge
Im triggerd
midnight nimbus
I usually just sit AFK during parts of breakthrough I don't like
idle breach
that's not what matters I think
midnight nimbus
and just spawn in when i like that part of the map
idle breach
isn't it about tracker tracking point
gray glade
now im starting to understand why i sometimes feel alone in breakthrough
solid hinge
Japs and americans are getting historical uniforms while brits and germans are uhhhh...
idle breach
okay fuck people going afk in middle of the round but
midnight nimbus
I just move around the mouse or click things so i don't get booted
solid hinge
@idle breach bro its dinner time
idle breach
i ate my dinner
solid hinge
Lmfao
midnight nimbus
idt that'll be a server option lol
but some parts of breakthrough are so AIDS to play
same with GO
solid hinge
if im playing conquest I'll wait in spawn for people to attack objectives sometimes
idle breach
But counter should not check time in respawn screen to match the proper score I think
idle breach
or bfv should force players to respawn
midnight nimbus
high intelligence: not forcing yourself to do something you don't enjoy
solid hinge
Wanna hear a joke?
JU-52 in airborne
if its hamada conquest and we own the top 3 points, I wont spawn until someone attacks them
it takes too long to move around
gray glade
honestly i always try to win
solid hinge
im more valuable spawning on a point that's being take
upper topaz
How much damage does APCR do?
gray glade
even if its a boring part of the match
midnight nimbus
waiting to respawn somewhere good is often more important than spawning immediately anyways
solid hinge
its literally the best way to win though
gray glade
if you wanna be useful you try to win the tough games too
upper topaz
APCR AND APDS should do the same damage
gray glade
not just the fun ones
midnight nimbus
yeah, waiting to respawn is pretty meta in a lot of competitive settings
don't spawn immediately like an idiot
solid hinge
if I can instantly spawn on a point that's under attack then that's more valuable than trying to run all the way back to it
midnight nimbus
if my teammates are running from point to point and I'm in the deploy screen, I'm gonna wait until they get to their destination to spawn
solid hinge
i quit if im getting tilted or im literally doing more than half my team put together
the first usually comes with the second
midnight nimbus
I don't really get angry at games
I quit when I'm bored
so like 2 out of the 3 times I've ever played conquest in this game
gray glade
@midnight nimbus so you dont get bored when you are afk?
solid hinge
I try super hard not to leave
midnight nimbus
well I do something else while I afk
solid hinge
Sometimes luck just falls through and i need a fresh game
midnight nimbus
and spawn when i get to do something fun
solid hinge
i play solo
midnight nimbus
I mean I'm not gonna be a masochist and force myself to do something unfun
gray glade
if you are AFKing you're just taking up space
midnight nimbus
and I'm not gonna let other people have fun at my expense
gray glade
leave and stop taking up bandwith then
midnight nimbus
why? I'd rather wait until I can spawn and have fun
yeah, I'm saving the space for myself
like first sector Hamada breakthrough
midnight nimbus
if i don't get a tank, I'm just gonna wait until second sector to get one
bc i hate playing the first sector
Brits get one
solid hinge
@idle breach theres lots of maps where you have to drive for ages with a tank to reach the fight
they tank your spm
gray glade
@idle breach you need more playtime
solid hinge
idle breach
hmmm
midnight nimbus
honestly vehicle play is something where it clicks with you or it doesn't
idle breach
pretty different from WoT..
midnight nimbus
when your blueberries get there, you get to step on the flag with them if that's what you want
gray glade
and if your teammates never get there?
midnight nimbus
abuse your 3p view so you never get flanked
if your team never gets there, keep farming ig
i'd rather farm than step on the flag anyways
idle breach
I don't really do farming
midnight nimbus
I mean that's how tanks are useful
idle breach
maybe that's the reason
midnight nimbus
you can one man clear objs
you're too vulnerable to step in close quarters with infy anyways
idle breach
yeah
midnight nimbus
it's 100% positioning to avoid people trying to get close to you
sitting >100m isn't that great bc your MGs have too much spread to be effective there
gray glade
i find you can clear objectives with the right specializations and tank tbh
like panzer IV with mines and fast turret speed
midnight nimbus
park like a nice 50-75m away and farm
Pz4 with flares can kinda push
yeah
bc flares = no one can get behind you
gray glade
ye
midnight nimbus
or you can push if you have a repair bitch behind you
idle breach
oh
we got no new vehicles for months
and mosquito FB and JU88-C is just different variants..
midnight nimbus
it's fine, BFV performance isn't even playable for a lot of people anyways
well the Mosquito and Ju88C are for different factions
they should be similar
Ju88C is still better tho
idle breach
mosquito is better imo
midnight nimbus
Ju88C has better damage output
idle breach
but only against planes.. yeah
idle breach
mosquito FB with bombs and rockets are just death machine
solid hinge
bombs and rockets passes up too much imo
the 20mms ensure you kill anything in the air in seconds
midnight nimbus
I mean the Ju88C is for big chungus dogfighting
spam dive brakes and me go behind
amazing dogfighting meta in this game
solid hinge
cant believe the ju88c gets fuckin heavy gunners along with the 20mms
talk about a flying fortress
midnight nimbus
even though BF3/4 flying was ridiculously shallow, at least it's so predictable that skill always shined
313 meta wooooo
solid hinge
Hi ppl, I want to say that the negativity regarding bf5 is rlly sad and I hope that what the devs from dice said is true, I don't want to hear people saying "don't buy bf5, too many bugs, no content, crashes etc" I want to hear that it made a Comeback... I will not get it anytime soon until they fix this, gonna go for bf1.
static sparrow
BF5 is a game thats gonna be great eventually
stoic breach
They just have to revert basically every mechanic related to attrition
patent kiln
bf5 is great since launch just ignore the reddit incels
fathom pebble
That eventually is hard to define
amber notch
BF5 is not great
patent kiln
better than paywall maps
amber notch
I too enjoy dull mechanics and constant spaming of the fg42
fathom crown
paywall skins are prioritized over actual updates to the game
idle breach
uh
fathom crown
deluxe edition owners basically ripped off
amber notch
Would rather pay for a season pass than this shit tbh
static sparrow
This is the cycle
fathom crown
premium actually GAVE you things and didnt rip you off
static sparrow
Bitch about DLC- > Devs make next game live service -> live service provides an overall worse experience -> accept youd rather pay for a DLC
patent kiln
hu they do a good live service
amber notch
All they need to do is give people an incentive to buy the season pass while still being able to deliver to everyone.
People can pay $30aud for the season pass and get some skins and 7 days early access to the maps, then everyone gets the maps after 7 days
static sparrow
Nah see ur doing it wrong
amber notch
thats how division does it
static sparrow
Beg for DLC
amber notch
and its great
fathom crown
first off, DICE needs to fucking lengthen their deadlines,
bfv obviously was released too early
static sparrow
Simple lifehack get paid to play
fathom crown
yes
static sparrow
But if ur EA how much efforr are u putting into a game which isnt making much money anymore
amber notch
should have given it another year and released with the US/Japanese faction
static sparrow
Theyre gonna try to keep appearances up by eventually making BFV look good so people will buy their next release
amber notch
Just milk fifa 
static sparrow
But all the while reallocate resources to the production of future games
bronze grotto
just add fifa p2w microtransactions for battlefield ez
elites ultimate
play conquest with 200 armor
static sparrow
Live service is shit because it deincentivizes companies to produce consistently good content because they arent making much off it
amber notch
Live service is good, if its done right.
And it was not done right with BFV
Maybe in 2 years time this game will be amazing, who knows, but currently, its shit
icy sluice
The content we have is good but there's not too much
static sparrow
Whats the last live service game done right that isnt P2W
patent kiln
just wasted ressources on firestorm
if it was put into actual maps everything would be gucci
icy sluice
That was mostly criterion
amber notch
@static sparrow Tarkov
patent kiln
ac odyssey
solid hinge
deep rock galactic
amber notch
tarkov is running on a live service module, AC odyssey did it very well, division 2 is doing it well
icy sluice
Minecraft
static sparrow
I shouldve rephrased
amber notch
wait, division 2 isnt live service my bad
static sparrow
Because standalone games are different
solid hinge
division 2
doing anything well
solid hinge
lol
static sparrow
I have a confession, i bought anthem before it came out as well
amber notch
yikes
static sparrow
Yeah
solid hinge
@static sparrow that's a bad strategy
icy sluice
Just want to remind everyone that there's an achievement on bf1 that is to play all the Russian maps and only 3% of the players have completed.
And there's been many sales, and went free at some point
static sparrow
I bought BFV at 30 bucks
icy sluice
500
patent kiln
500h and bought it for 30 😄
amber notch
Yeah dude
static sparrow
Im somewhere around 50 hours
patent kiln
worth it
static sparrow
I reinstalled it like 2 weeks ago
static sparrow
2.5k in csgo :P
patent kiln
20k hours in WoW
amber notch
CS cringe
static sparrow
Still the best game ive played
solid hinge
- laughs in 10 hours in CSGO and is better than a Gold Nova *
Uh, I want to ask ya a question, do some of you still play bf1, I saw that there is still a lot of ppl and since I plan on buying it i want to know what ya think of it
amber notch
People still play bf3
solid hinge
Yes.I do play BF1.
static sparrow
BF1 is fucking solid man
amber notch
what does that tell you
solid hinge
and its fucking amazing.
static sparrow
Great maps, tons of weapons, and good gunplay
solid hinge
Ikr, I played it years ago with ea access, I wanted to know how it fares today
amber notch
EA cess
midnight nimbus
I want f2p Hardline
static sparrow
I have ea access because of BF4 premium
solid hinge
Better than nothing I guess
midnight nimbus
it's not even a broken game
it just has shit weapon balance
which is fine ig, just use the tryhard guns
vestal locust
It’s not buggy, just surprise stability mechanic
amber notch
lol
solid hinge
k
static sparrow
Doing 40 damage with a HS pisses me off to no end
solid hinge
amber notch
nice virus
solid hinge
BROKEN PLEANS PROKEN AA
static sparrow
The stg
amber notch
LOL
static sparrow
Yeah but i main csgo
static sparrow
Buddy u needa calm down
grizzled flame
raven siren
What’s your guys favourite thing to do in BF
raven siren
Gets ignored
solid hinge
@raven siren my favorite thing would be to try and play in bf1 without HUD, which I haven't tried yet
static sparrow
Where are u from @solid hinge
raven siren
Oof
amber notch
you mad bro?
amber notch
has himself in his pfp
fucks women younger than him to make himself feel better
raven siren
My fav thing is playing recon and sitting building on site and then waiting for a tank to come round and then jumping off the building putting C4 moping the fuck out and feeling like a ninja
amber notch
solid hinge
FIX THE PLANES UNDEAD DICE
solid hinge
@solid hinge better, fix the bugs and performance issues, then later we can talk about the lufftwaffe and the royal air force
icy sluice
Just a friendly reminder about premium
cursive quartz
i thought all of the dlc was good for bf1