battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid hinge]

it's what i bought bf for!!!

Not gonna update this game for a while after hearing about the bugs that appeared

Tbh my ps4 version is running fine

for now at least

Still got tank hitreg

[uneven maple]

I would be sad 😞 if Conquest went away. I love the full scale war with vehicles and infantry chaos.

[solid hinge]

Who said conquest is going away

[misty hill]

Atom said that they should get rid of it

[solid hinge]

this is ridiculous

squad conquest is a joke

as soon as one team takes all three points the round is over

theres nothing they can do about it unless they can access another point from their spawn

[idle breach]

squad conquest has no point

since lower skilled players cannot do meaningful something when the round is getting bad

can't even doing some support work

and it's not really fun for skilled players too

bfv doesn't have some skill based match system or rank system. no point doing e-sport esque

[mystic wolf]

@uneven maple It's my love of the 'full scale war' that makes me hate conquest actually..

It spreads out the battle across the whole map, and the dynamics around capture and move make avoiding conflict very likely

If you want full scale war you have to constrain the battlefield, which is why breakthrough feels more intense

[solid hinge]

Yeah

5v5 should replace squad conquest entirely

This is literally noob farm mode

[idle breach]

yeah

and If somebody can do noob farm, they can do it on other mode

skilled players can still tip the whole round, doing nice K/D or anything

while less skilled players can enjoy the game

it's bad for everyone

[solid hinge]

I just did 9 matches of squad conquest in a row and won all of them

This shouldnt happen

[feral grotto]

why shouldn't it?

[mystic wolf]

I just called in a Sturmtiger, saw nobody on squad was dying, so I redeployed to spawn in.. Team takes sector.. So now I dont get to spawn the sturmtiger... We barely secure next sector in time for me to click on it. Wtf DICE.

[idle breach]

because it kills the game

[feral grotto]

how exactly?..

[solid hinge]

Because 8 of them were spawn camps and the 9th was arras and we still thrashed them

when only one map in a mode is un-spawn campable that's terrible design

i was being sarcastic about cq being removed lol

i hate squad conquest with a passion

[feral grotto]

so how is getting into a good squad is killing the game?

[idle breach]

not killing the entire game but at least the mod

[solid hinge]

It wasnt good squads

It was me 80% of it and this dude who rezzed me a few times

[feral grotto]

ok.. so the enemy team being terrible ..

[solid hinge]

If they're shit 9 matches in a row then they need better matchmaking

it's also like

[feral grotto]

first of all.. it wasn't 9 games with the same 2 squads on the same team

[solid hinge]

we're not especially good you just cant come back from being spawn camped

[idle breach]

it should be 'making a good squad' not just keep joining and getting out till you get in the 'winning team'

[feral grotto]

it does mix it up every now and then

[solid hinge]

It certainly didnt feel like it was introducing anyone new

[idle breach]

my friend has a short temper on video game, he quitted playing bfv after he played about two weeks

he had over 92% of winning rate

because nothing stop player to just abandon the match/team

[solid hinge]

people would leave consistently in every match

[idle breach]

even if you're dedicated and skilled player you can't trip the match and even if you can that's just unrewarding

[solid hinge]

sq cq was a nightmare to fill up

you'd end the round and half the server would be different players from the beginning

[green elm]

@solid hinge yes they should turn bf into a tactical shooter and get rid of vehicles

[idle breach]

yeah but in bfv it's more like players stick more in winning side, losing side keep losing players till the server resets

[solid hinge]

i dont think the matches were ever fully full for more than 5 minutes straight

OFC

[idle breach]

at least in 64 player mode it works but in 8v8 it's kinda janky

[solid hinge]

the enemy team know they cant do anything to stop being spawn camped so they leave, your team get bored of spawn camping so they leave

i mean, the game is almost there

might as well go all the way, right?

The maps are inherently badly designed

[green elm]

5v5 mode is obviously what people play the game for

[feral grotto]

remove vehicles from bf... yeah that's a great idea

[solid hinge]

exactly

[green elm]

would you rather play 1v32 or 32v1

[solid hinge]

oh shit I boosted my win percentage by 4% just from those matches

i paid 100 for the deluxe sex edition so i can reward dice for putting in SQUAD CONQUEST

okay I take it back

[feral grotto]

5v5.. that's why cod went down hill so fast ..

[solid hinge]

squad conquest rules

please let me continue to farm

what gun were you using

[feral grotto]

because of consoles and the need for competitive esport creap

[green elm]

sqonquest should never have seen the light of day

[solid hinge]

P08

[idle breach]

and bfv is not really polished

[solid hinge]

wtf im using the p08 too

[green elm]

why would you use the po8 and not the krag

[idle breach]

it's more like finding exploits rather than being skilled or something

[solid hinge]

and it feels like crap

i cant upgrade the gun

it's bugged and wont let me

Cause on squad conquest you gotta plink everyone

Krag doesnt have enough boolet

[green elm]

po8 is ugly

[solid hinge]

It feels a lot nicer after upgrades

[idle breach]

practically, almost every experienced player in bfv can just win if they wanna do.

[solid hinge]

and you gotta use the lattey sight

i literally cant upgrade it

trust me

not the 2x?

[feral grotto]

you keep using the words experience and skilled too much Stich

[solid hinge]

The lines in the 2x are so thick

Makes it too hard to hit anything

[feral grotto]

you know its not that black and white

[solid hinge]

hmm

[idle breach]

yeah you're right

[green elm]

ayla if u find the game boring i think it’s finally time to play knife only

[solid hinge]

The zoom is tiny on the Lattey sight but the recoil is basically non-existent and the lines are the thinnest you can get

i cant use it for long range anyway

6 effing shots

I couldn't melee them because they were all in their spawn

[mystic wolf]

Some guy cussing me out for playing "too passive" and called me a n-gger, while driving a Sturmtiger in Devastation.. Like does he want me to suicide it? We're literally within 20m of enemy with all guns blazing

[solid hinge]

knife only is a blast

...in cod

resorted to shooting flares at people

[unreal oracle]

Talking about Battlefield and balance

[solid hinge]

flare does like 20 damage if you land it on someone

mad good

[mystic wolf]

also ignite right?

[idle breach]

keep releasing new modes is not a good idea..

[solid hinge]

we need maps ffs

throwing knife someone slightly out of kill distance and then flare them

[green elm]

shoot a flare and then noscope for easy kill

[solid hinge]

i've quit the game for TWO months and i still dont feel refreshed replaying it

[green elm]

@solid hinge 5v5 close quarters maps of course

[idle breach]

outpost was fun but it was kinda broken

[solid hinge]

there still isnt enough content

ofc ofc

they should scrap al sudan conquest

outpost was too reliant on the vehicles

[feral grotto]

people barely played domination and firestorm... it got taken off.. people are crying those are the best modes, why did you take them off?

[solid hinge]

operation metro should also be 5v5

firestorm got taken of

what

[feral grotto]

not firestorm.. frontlines

whoops

[solid hinge]

I honestly dont believe that frontlines didnt have enough players

because domination is actually better than squad shitfest

I was in full matches of that mode almost every time

frontlines was a brilliant mode in bf1 and just deserved refinements

[feral grotto]

being in a full match doesn't mean much

[solid hinge]

Ever since it's been gone ive been in half full servers CONSTANTLY

[mystic wolf]

Breakthru is best mode

[unreal oracle]

@solid hinge true

[green elm]

i miss frontlines

[feral grotto]

breakthrough is the best mode

[green elm]

remember bf1 frontlines

[solid hinge]

breakthrough is fun when it's not on the shitty maps

[green elm]

actually

[solid hinge]

which is half the maps in this game so

[green elm]

remember bf1

[solid hinge]

bf1 frontlines was the GOAT

literally all they had to do to frontlines is remove hamads

that was it

i played that shit for HOURS

[green elm]

hamada is ass

[solid hinge]

everyone left when hamada frontlines came up because it was a fuckin AWFUL map

[green elm]

hamada should never have seen the light of day

[feral grotto]

bf1 sucks butt..

[solid hinge]

frontlines on amiens was the absolute best shit ever

[green elm]

u suck butter

[solid hinge]

hamada frontlines is hands down the worst map mode combo in the game

bf1 is a better game

[green elm]

frontlines on rupture t b h

[solid hinge]

MMMMM

[green elm]

hamada is the worst map in the history of gaming

[solid hinge]

fuck hamada

fuck fjell

[unreal oracle]

Hamada frontlines bestest

[green elm]

ugly map

[solid hinge]

fuck the dome map

fuck panzerstorm

[idle breach]

hamada frontline showed me the new era of gaming

[solid hinge]

shit, fuck all the maps in this game

[idle breach]

that was truely a WW2 experience

[solid hinge]

cod ww2 had better maps

[idle breach]

now I truely understand being a soldier in WW2 sucks

thanks to hamada frontline

[solid hinge]

yeah what is it with aaa ww2 shooters and ass maps

[green elm]

it’s cuz there’s like 2 settings u can have it in

either ruined city or ruined field

[idle breach]

I'd rather play de_dust2 forever with anime characters and drunk guys shouting all over

[solid hinge]

yeah but why do they play so miserably

cod ww2 had uss texas which was this deformed dollar store hijacked remake

[idle breach]

I wish hamada frontline not removed

so like later when I have a child

if my child behave shitty I would force my child to play hamada frontline

because I'm a psychopath

I love my humanity playing hamada frontline

[feral grotto]

histerical

[green elm]

why can’t we just have rupture again

[solid hinge]

for the reward make him play sudan

[green elm]

just the map rupture again

[idle breach]

I have 633 hours of playtime in bfv

that means I'm mental

[solid hinge]

i cant even break 200 hours

god bless you

[green elm]

yeah i’m stuck at around 120 or so

cba to play any longer

[solid hinge]

same

just so miserable

[idle breach]

I still remember leveling up blenheim before the buff

[green elm]

the only thing keeping me going is sniping

[idle breach]

the memory still haunts me

[green elm]

but at some point even sniping makes me miserable

[solid hinge]

in bf1 whenever i'd get bored there was always something i could switch to for fun

either a tank, plane, sniping, whatever

[green elm]

i only find fun in sniping nowadays

and i only play infy anyway

[solid hinge]

same tbh

only play recon

[green elm]

in bf1 it was fun to play assault and blow stuff up

now assault is unfun

[drifting marsh]

that gewehr is still dope

[idle breach]

I stopped playing assault

[green elm]

assault is so unfun in bfv

[solid hinge]

assault was fun for a while

esp if you only just started playing it

[green elm]

it’s uninteresting imo

[solid hinge]

since yo ujust start melting everyone all of a sudden

then it gets unfun

it was my last class to get to lvl 20

so it was a blast using op guns

[green elm]

so you switch to medic and experience the 8th circle of hell

[solid hinge]

nu uh

recon

[green elm]

the only class i don’t have level 20 is support

by god do i hate playing support

[solid hinge]

fuck support

i hated support in bf1 and i still hate him now

i only really bothered for the shotguns

[idle breach]

Support is good

[solid hinge]

which btw make no sense being support only guns

[green elm]

only gun i want to use is fg42 because it was good in firestorm

but i can’t be fucked to play another round of lewis gun/bren/ke7

ls26 was ok

in bf1 i liked support because lmg08 and burton

i still only got it to like level 18 tho

[solid hinge]

level 50 for all classes boyz

tbf support was more fun in bf1

[green elm]

yeah ngl

[solid hinge]

you had insane spray and pray weapons like the parabellum

i went on massive streaks with that thign just hipfiring people to death

[green elm]

fucking bar was mad

[solid hinge]

bar was great too

madsen trench was a blast for me

[idle breach]

Madsen was so underrated

[green elm]

i couldn’t get past the dumb mag on top

[solid hinge]

it was

you get used to it

[idle breach]

Just use your mind-eye

[solid hinge]

plus i think the aa made it look better

[idle breach]

Dont rely on using only two eyes

[green elm]

i miss bf1 shotguns tbh

actually scratch that i miss bf1 assault

blowing shit up was just more fun

[sonic moss]

I never really liked assault in BF1

[green elm]

do you think it’s better in bfv?

[sonic moss]

For some reason yes

I don't know why

[green elm]

heresy

[solid hinge]

bf1 assault was so much fun

and actually balanced so i didnt feel gross

[green elm]

i find the semiautos plain boring in bfv

[prime pine]

Assault in bf1 i think is my least most used class?

Guess SMG's/shotguns weren't of major interest on my part.

[stoic breach]

Probably

Shotguns should've gone to assault in BFV 💾

[echo glen]

Yes

Semiauto rifles should remain with the medics

[stoic breach]

Nah

Medic AR

[echo glen]

[stoic breach]

People should generally be playing as assault

Anti-tank and anti-personnel is pretty important

[prime pine]

They could have made SMG's all kit and give medics their semi autos.

[stoic breach]

Just give assault SMGs

Nah

Assault SMG and Medic AR

[green elm]

assault lmg support smg

[echo glen]

but muh historical accuracy

[stoic breach]

Assault lmg would suck cause they would run out of ammo 👽

[green elm]

true

[mystic wolf]

geez why is croc tannk sooooooooooo awful compared to sturmtiger

like half the time if a guy is in your flamer position you cant even see with all the fire everywher

[echo glen]

The flamethrower is pathetically weak

[mystic wolf]

yeah but not just that

sturmtiger has better armour and a better main gun

[stoic breach]

Croc is better solo literally because theres nobody to shoot fire in the way of your screen

[mystic wolf]

croc has full rotating turret obviously but.. its slow

wait what

oh right

i derp

[dim current]

hay were do i go if i have a problem?

on BFV

[stoic breach]

!!support

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[dim current]

thank you

[coral fiber]

Weekly debrief is posted

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/c9p7w4/battlefield_v_weekly_debrief_july_5th_ch_4_update/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

DICE actually apologizes

[echo glen]

feelsbad

[mystic wolf]

just saw someone shoot M1A1 carbine like it was an SMG...

so goddamn fast

[icy sluice]

The Rate of Fire is 450 for the M1A1 Carbine

M2 carbine will probably fire like the M1907 SF

[green elm]

like a slow firing smg

god i can’t wait for another bullet hose

[icy sluice]

Kinda funny that the fastest firing ARs will both be American

[midnight nimbus]

doc croc is good

it's genuinely busted op

also stop playing BFV

[green elm]

2nd fastest firing smg is also american

[midnight nimbus]

this game will never be good

[icy sluice]

no

I won't even get BC3 tbh

tbh if the next game is modern, I'll just be sticking with V.

[midnight nimbus]

people who think BFV will make a BF4 redemption are delusional

[echo glen]

Well, only time will tell, and until the moment happens or not, reserve your judgements

[icy sluice]

Considering 4 was so shit it had a class action lawsuit

due to how unplayable it was within the first few months

[green elm]

imagine your game being so bad you actually get fucking sued

[midnight nimbus]

difference between 4 and V is 4 consistently got better with time

[icy sluice]

If 4 can make a comeback like that, V should definitely be able to

[midnight nimbus]

vs V literally being unplayable for many people months after launch

while being playable at launch

[green elm]

maybe someone should start a lawsuit

that’ll fix the game

[icy sluice]

Imagine actually thinking a game in this state won't get better this early in the game's life cycle

[tribal cairn]

I think their next title could be a continuation of 2142, or however it is called, I can't remember

[solid hinge]

this early..?

this early?

it's early for bfv?

it's been 8 months

8 months is a very very very long time in this gaming market

how could they possibly make a comeback when they fucked up all opportunities to generate and capitalize on hype

they even destroyed all hype after the new content trailer

it was their foot in the door and they fucked it up badly with all the bugs

[icy sluice]

tmw the game is actually still doing well with player count

[tribal cairn]

BF4 had a ton of bugs, now look where it is

Doing good

[solid hinge]

yeah but bfv is ADDING bugs

it's getting worse with time

[dim current]

Anyone know how to claim the last tiger skin
as iv done the challenges but it say i haven't got a single letter

@solid hinge fair point

[solid hinge]

speaking of bugs

[dim current]

lol

[solid hinge]

I feel like people are making a mountain out of a molehil

[icy sluice]

Yeah

Hell, people still think you can be a black German

[midnight nimbus]

hmmmm if the new update causes more crashes, pacific should straight up BSOD your computer

[solid hinge]

wasn't bf4 also in this same state

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, at launch

[solid hinge]

I'm going to be honest I've seen bf4 complaint threads well after 8 months

[midnight nimbus]

performance didn't decrease after launch with more updates

[solid hinge]

or did it?

[icy sluice]

[solid hinge]

the game shouldve blown up after the chapter 4 trailer

people say that but was it really that better

[slow cradle]

FFs, 6/7, ran out of ammo and we won the round too soon

[solid hinge]

at least BFV brings new stuff to the table and changes the formula

BF4 was pretty much just a BF3 mod

for the worse

like a BF3 Allied Intent thing

i dont think rewarding prone camping and passive play is a good change in the formula

neither is shifting the vehicle meta to this frankenstein thing

Well let's be honest half of you people supported the formula changes

i didnt

i hated it from the very beginning

I've seen the subreddits before this shit happened

nobody liked 3d spotting

i did too

everyone hated the invincible tanks from bf4

idiots!

and now you guys get these mechanics and now you hate them?

hey, not me

[midnight nimbus]

BF reddit is the epitome of low intelligence

[solid hinge]

the majority of people

fucking hated the metas for bf4 and all thought bf1 was a worse casual game

[midnight nimbus]

remember that forums are an incredibly small sub sector of the community

[solid hinge]

so is this discord by extension

I agree that the changes won't be better for the community

[midnight nimbus]

see: BF Heroes community crying about MTX

[solid hinge]

but some of you guys wanted it so

eat your cake

[icy sluice]

All gaming subreddits usually spout shit about the game's bugs, praise previous games and whatnot.

[midnight nimbus]

when in reality, MTX was a massive success

[icy sluice]

Not even just Battlefield reddit, it's most gaming franchise reddits or whatever

[solid hinge]

even discord

like this one every monday morning

[tribal cairn]

You know, I think EA should do something new besides going back to modern times in a war with Russia or China, or back to WW2, but instead make a continuation of Battlefield 2142

[dapper yew]

Battlefield is better off dying than getting fixed

[solid hinge]

I've seen 50 people complain about the game and say that BF4 or BF1 was better

[dapper yew]

Honestly no offense

[solid hinge]

the franchise?

maybe

I wanted other casual competitors to the bf name anyways because this one is kinda restricted

[dapper yew]

It's just that the game might be unfixable

[midnight nimbus]

BF was an incredibly flawed formula from day one

[icy sluice]

Yet it still works

[midnight nimbus]

at least some of the games were at least incredibly fun

[solid hinge]

counting the old refractor games?

or up to bad company

[dapper yew]

I can agree on that

[midnight nimbus]

like Conquest is inherently a terrible rule set for a game

[solid hinge]

Old refractor games are only fun because of mods

[midnight nimbus]

and that's the backbone of BF

[icy sluice]

Yeah and it's like, the most played game mode

[slow cradle]

Does crouching reduce spread on smgs?

[solid hinge]

reason why is because in the older games backcapping rarely happened

[icy sluice]

Crouching should reduce spread on all guns

[dapper yew]

Guess because the players can cheese the game

[solid hinge]

conquest felt more satisfying in the older games

[slow cradle]

Thanks raptor

[midnight nimbus]

> never heard of spawn bomb

[solid hinge]

now rush does the same thing

but better

but the problem with rush imo is that it doesn't showcase the vehicle gameplay

you need large gameplay

but rush is a bunch of narrow corridors

[stoic breach]

Breakthrough is a good large mode

[icy sluice]

Every fps game mode that has respawning, has some way to spawn camp

[solid hinge]

breakthrough is the series high point

[stoic breach]

Battlefront 2017 Galactic Assault does Breakthrough the best

[solid hinge]

but it needs a bit more space

for sandbox play imo

[tribal cairn]

Regarding vehicles, I think it either comes down to BF4/3, BF1, or Bad Company 2

[midnight nimbus]

at least other game modes have methods of breaking the spawn camp

[solid hinge]

BF1942 did vehicles really fine

[midnight nimbus]

like CQ traps are unbreakable

[tribal cairn]

That it did

[midnight nimbus]

they break when the trappers get bored

[solid hinge]

I think DICE needs to program safe zones and triggers

[icy sluice]

And people want Omaha Beach which is basically Spawn Trap the game

[midnight nimbus]

red zones are the safe zones

[solid hinge]

those red zones should cancel out missiles / bullets which come in contact with them

[midnight nimbus]

what's the difference between mining the safe zone and right outside of the safe zone?

[dapper yew]

Dice needs to give up

[midnight nimbus]

nada

[tribal cairn]

Maybe as a map they could add Marigny

It was weeks after

[icy sluice]

Can't give up on making a AAA game within a year

[tribal cairn]

D-day

[dapper yew]

And stop making games that opperate like trash

[solid hinge]

there's also anti-air which does do a good job at keeping fighters at bay but that's only if you have a dude there 24/7

[dapper yew]

I meant dice

[solid hinge]

also we have too many grindy modes

too many modes which split the community

[tribal cairn]

BFV itself is too Grindy

[solid hinge]

Like everyone here likes the brainless grind mode

come on dude

[icy sluice]

Yeah, still can't just ditch a AAA game this early

[solid hinge]

this is a Battlefield game not COD

[icy sluice]

Also with the roadmap being shown, you can't just say cancelled

That's a fucking lawsuit

[solid hinge]

they never said they'd ditch though

[hybrid dock]

is this 2011, are we still trying to compare 2 different games

[icy sluice]

GetRicked is just being overly negative for... I guess attention lol

Minecraft is just better Terraria @hybrid dock

[hybrid dock]

lel

[solid hinge]

my entire debacle with the small maps thing is that I just want a game which doesn't fall into grindy metro like modes and the sort, I actually just want a balance of small and large maps like BF3 and BF4 did

[icy sluice]

Metro needs tanks

[solid hinge]

also people are increasingly liking smaller maps by the year I feel

in the past people loved shit like operation firestorm

[hybrid dock]

but the gameplay is different

[dapper yew]

No I might be negative but I chose to be negative because of society

[solid hinge]

now they like arras

[coarse thunder]

Because zoomers

[tribal cairn]

I personally like Larger maps like panzerstorm

[icy sluice]

We live in a society

[solid hinge]

I'm a zoomer though

[tribal cairn]

Gives a bit more breathing room

[dapper yew]

Nobody grows up anymore

[hybrid dock]

you can't do the same thing when the game plays differently

[icy sluice]

I don't fucking pay attention to this slang shit, what is a zoomer?

[coarse thunder]

Gen z

[icy sluice]

Got it

[hybrid dock]

gen z

[icy sluice]

Got it

[solid hinge]

genZ extends to 1995

that includes all bf players from all games except the very first one

so no its not zoomers

[dapper yew]

I lost

I'm lost

[solid hinge]

I'm a gen Z

I'm gonna make my own bf game

[dapper yew]

If you're going to make a better bf game at least fix the mistakes dice made

[icy sluice]

"Give up fixing Battlefield"
"fix the mistakes"

[solid hinge]

I was just thinking of a standard 64 player game which can be moddable and have planes / tanks / infantry with medium to large sized maps

none of the spawn screen bullshit, no 3d spotting bs

just a fair experience

[tribal cairn]

Personally, I think EA should come up with a new, fresh concept if they aren't going to the modern age or make a continuation of 2142

[solid hinge]

Vietnam

Korea

Desert storm

desert storm no

[dapper yew]

Sorry I'm a bit mad because dice doesn't know what they're doing @icy sluice

[icy sluice]

I would like a 1980-200X kinda game

[solid hinge]

Iran-Iraq yes

[tribal cairn]

What about the Falklands?

[icy sluice]

Dice does know what they're doing, and they're fixing them.

[solid hinge]

Falklands I'm not so sure

[icy sluice]

Fixing them is top priority

[solid hinge]

falklands and desert storm was increasingly one sided

Iran-Iraq is literally the only large scale war which happened during the cold war

[icy sluice]

Fictional War instead of that

[misty hill]

Dice knows what they’re doing?

Vietnam

[solid hinge]

Korea

Was large

Large as in

[icy sluice]

I'll take a fictional war over a modern war tbh

[solid hinge]

helicopter dogfights, land battles of 50,000+

jet dogfights

it was the deadliest war of the 20th century actually besides ww2

vietnam doesn't pale

[misty hill]

WWII didn’t have any of that

Well

They had large battles

[dapper yew]

Dice should create a new bf game to start all over and fix their mistakes and make it a master piece

[icy sluice]

I'll take an unbelievable war that will never happen

[solid hinge]

what about a alt history war between 3 1984 like superstates

that would be cool

[misty hill]

Hmmm

[solid hinge]

plenty of cold war era tech you could go for there

[tribal cairn]

You mean like a civil war between states?

[misty hill]

No

[echo glen]

Kaiserreich Battlefield

[misty hill]

1984

Ish

[solid hinge]

yeah

[tribal cairn]

Yes, I know it's 1984,

[solid hinge]

you have an asian/middleeastern power, a soviet power, and an american power

all fight for power

[icy sluice]

I would also take futuristic

Like 21XX

[solid hinge]

I wanted to go for a retrofuturism vibe

[tribal cairn]

That's what I said

[solid hinge]

1984 was retrofuturistic

[tribal cairn]

Continuation of 2142

[solid hinge]

like with similar tech we had at the time but in mass numbers and mobilized due to war

[tribal cairn]

How about a fictional war regarding an Invasion of the Slavic States in the 1970s including east Germany in an assault on Russia? Since my only other idea is 2143

[solid hinge]

That would actually be cool

[dapper yew]

I'm sorry

I'm so sorry

I should have not picked that

I'LL leave

[solid hinge]

wait what

[misty hill]

His pop

*pfp

[solid hinge]

sans?

sans undertale?

what's so bad about him

[echo glen]

sans undertale is my favorite character xd xd xd

[dapper yew]

Oh I thought you might hate this Because of bad reputation

[icy sluice]

Nothing bad about the character, the community is just really stupid about him

[solid hinge]

sens undertale is ness

fucking mattpatt lmao

[dapper yew]

Oh

[echo glen]

S A N S I S N E S S ? ! ?

[icy sluice]

#battlefield-legacy-titles

[dapper yew]

Rip game theory

[solid hinge]

game theory was dead by 2014

long long time ago

[echo glen]

anyway back to actual battlefield

[solid hinge]

yes

[dapper yew]

Oh Um were we talking about creating a new BF

[echo glen]

Or maybe rather choosing a new time period for BF

[dapper yew]

That's better

Even if I don't understand but dice needs to get off their butts and fix bf or it will die

[icy sluice]

They're already on that attitude

[dapper yew]

The worst way for games to die if it get erased from gaming history. Slowly and harshly

@icy sluice if they're already on that attitude they should ask for help

[icy sluice]

Kind of are by saying to report any bugs and shit like that.

That's really the only help they can get from a playerbase

[dapper yew]

But what if they asked a different gaming company

[solid hinge]

open source battlefield guys

we can have mod support and everything else

[dapper yew]

But there will be downsides

[midnight nimbus]

we need BF5

a modern successor to BF4

[tribal cairn]

Mod Support for battlefield? Where would you even use those mods?

[midnight nimbus]

so we can all forget BFV happened

[solid hinge]

What about semi modern tbh

[tribal cairn]

Or just textures

[solid hinge]

like 1990s or 1980s

[midnight nimbus]

modern vehicles 😋

[tribal cairn]

And other appearance related stuff

[solid hinge]

@tribal cairn new factions, new vehicles, new maps

[dapper yew]

[solid hinge]

play the older BF mods

[dapper yew]

[solid hinge]

you can have new gamemodes

that was planned for BF3

engine issues stopped it

[dapper yew]

[solid hinge]

you can have full large modding communities

[tribal cairn]

Hmm, well that would be nice, if PS4 would have access to these modded servers because server browser

[midnight nimbus]

mods are epic for PVE

[solid hinge]

well yeah

if you have bot support and all mods are really fun

[midnight nimbus]

i'd rather die than play community designed PVP

[solid hinge]

it's also good for PVP but you'd need to have server hosting and the sorts

that's why shit like Desert Combat is fun you play with bots

with servers it's kinda eh

[midnight nimbus]

based MH mods

just cosmetic

and makes the game less grindy

[solid hinge]

also to put this out

with modding you need programming experience and modeling experience

so it's not like you'll have 500 shit mods you'll have 4 or 10 fairly good ones

the 500 shit mod thing happens when you have mod tools which are too easy to use imo

[dapper yew]

[solid hinge]

I mod squad now so

[midnight nimbus]

the ability to mod well is not mutually inclusive with actual good taste

[solid hinge]

well it depends on the team

and the gameplay changes they're trying to bring

you can have mods which add full new modes and actual cool meta changes

[dapper yew]

It's best to wait for how battlefield fix itself slowly

[midnight nimbus]

with current ideas in the pipeline

it's more like watching it bleed out slowly

[dapper yew]

Because we will not know what will happen in the future

True @midnight nimbus

[midnight nimbus]

actually current ideas in the pipeline are more like a fast bleed

that's why i want them

[solid hinge]

@midnight nimbus like the entire idea of mods is that you can have versions of the game which are like BFV which some people can play, and versions of the game which are more like BF4 which others can play

instead of fracturing the community

[midnight nimbus]

that's literally fracturing the community more

[solid hinge]

I said that wrong

[midnight nimbus]

like people are playing an inherently different game depending on server

like ew

[solid hinge]

in the current system you have people who want something like BF4 but can't because BFV is a thing

vice versa

[midnight nimbus]

epic insta death of any competitive relevance

if you want to play BF4, play BF4

[solid hinge]

that won't last long

[midnight nimbus]

not some BFV modded abortion

[solid hinge]

the only reason why the old bf games are good is because of mods

[dapper yew]

Bf needs to be offline for a bit

[solid hinge]

stuff like project reality

actual stuff like forgotten hope

had those things never existed then bf2 would probably suck

[dapper yew]

So it can fix itself

[solid hinge]

also modding is more than just changing some parts of the code, you can make good ones which are skillfully designed which don't feel like a BFV ripoff

[midnight nimbus]

the mods existed for people who don't want to play BF, but don't realize it

well that's a lot of BF players

[solid hinge]

yes

[midnight nimbus]

BFV defenders don't actually want to play BFV

literally just play squad or insurgency

[dapper yew]

I like this BF community we talk trash and nice things about BF and see what could improve like a company

[solid hinge]

I mean even then at least different factions and vehicles

I can understand not wanting gameplay mods

[dapper yew]

Funny isn't it

[stoic breach]

Insurgency modded servers 😩

[solid hinge]

I dunno I think we give players too little customization options and restrict them

I can understand gameplay changes not being a good thing but

we don't allow alot for player control

[dapper yew]

Why do I get this urge to say bad time to be cringy

[midnight nimbus]

ew customization

[dapper yew]

Sorry for being cringy now

[midnight nimbus]

bring back sensible class identification

[solid hinge]

not that type of customization

server customization

[midnight nimbus]

oh god

[solid hinge]

which settings, which types of plugind

[midnight nimbus]

that's even worse

[dapper yew]

😐

[solid hinge]

: \

[dapper yew]

[midnight nimbus]

SIEGE OF SHANGHAI 24/7 | 2000 TICKETS | INSTANT VEH SPAWN | STINGER = BAN

[solid hinge]

you're being too staunch

that's one problem of it but then

imagine servers which allow more vehicle play

[dapper yew]

[midnight nimbus]

that's literally what allowing more vehicle play devolved into

[dapper yew]

[solid hinge]

yeah but that's not every server

not every server is a 24/7 1000 tickets

[crisp stone]

just saw a squad mate running around with the revive icon on him

[midnight nimbus]

that's literally what the epitome of RSP devolved into

[solid hinge]

I don't believe so

[midnight nimbus]

you get to hunt down the few servers that are genuine gems

but the majority of servers were just disgusting

[dapper yew]

Wait is there k bullets BFV

[solid hinge]

yes

[dapper yew]

Yes

[solid hinge]

boys AT rifle is practically the same thing

[midnight nimbus]

> cramming 64p into game modes not designed for 64p

[dapper yew]

[solid hinge]

I mean look at the flipside

you have clans which can't play BFV that much due to their being no custom servers

[dapper yew]

[midnight nimbus]

if having great upside also results in having incredibly terrible downsides, it's probably fucking terrible design

[dapper yew]

[solid hinge]

I think maybe you have a point in the long run because Battlefield is too large and when you have shit like mod support then you'll just have too many duds

[dapper yew]

What a great community

[solid hinge]

but the idea can work for more niche titles

[midnight nimbus]

CoD community is actually incredibly based

recognize how cancer PVP mods are

[dapper yew]

√(•∆•√)

[midnight nimbus]

they vastly overestimate their own abilities bc they want to be good at the game

[solid hinge]

Has anyone heard the “we’re animals” kill message?

what

[dapper yew]

What

[solid hinge]

kht have you even seen a pvp mod

lmao

there haven't been many released

most modding is singleplayer

[dapper yew]

@solid hinge it this a weed joke

[solid hinge]

I was killed by a P38 and i heard “we’re animals, all of us”

[dapper yew]

"Menacing"

[midnight nimbus]

DICE needs to be one of those studios that truly impose their vision upon the community

also needs a based community

where good players actually know what they're talking about

and bully the community for being wrong

[dapper yew]

@solid hinge must be some s h i t posters

[solid hinge]

there's no opinion which is right in the BF community

[foggy mango]

Can anyone teach me how to be a good pilot?

[dapper yew]

I can't

I Haven't played since campaign

[foggy mango]

In bfv?

[dapper yew]

BF1

I don't have BFv

Why me

[solid hinge]

use the practice range

yeah it sucks but

better than nothing

[dapper yew]

Huh what

I don't get it

[solid hinge]

for flying

[dapper yew]

Oh

[solid hinge]

Why am i getting kicked from servers

Now it says i have lost connection to ea servers

When my internet is fine

[dapper yew]

@solid hinge Feels bad

[solid hinge]

.-.

[dapper yew]

√(°~°√)

[tribal cairn]

They should allow you to fly all the planes with specialization choices on practice range

As well as guns

And tanks

[dapper yew]

Is this bfv

[tribal cairn]

Yeah

[dapper yew]

Then nevermind because I don't have BFv only BF1

I don't feel so good

Good bye life and BFV

[tribal cairn]

Captain Picard is dissapointed in you

[dapper yew]

[tribal cairn]

References that no one that is born after 2000 will get

[dapper yew]

Spuderman spuderman he do anything that a spuder can even ban

[stoic breach]

[summer geyser]

how does one control certain weapon recoil on console

[stoic breach]

Idk, just burst fire

[summer geyser]

I figured

some auto weapons have terrible recoil at the first several shots and then finally tones down

And i have to compensate by missing those shots before I can actually use the gun lol

[orchid shore]

I have a very bad feeling that the next update is either make or break DICE

[summer geyser]

What's the next update

[orchid shore]

to fix bugs but we all know that the hotfix on 4th on july did nothing

[summer geyser]

I see

[orchid shore]

had you not seen the countless bugs

mostly now that hitreg doesn't even work now

[feral grotto]

Hit reg is fine on PC

[orchid shore]

are you sure?

[feral grotto]

Yes I'm sure

[orchid shore]

im pretty sure i just shot a guy like 7-8 times and hes not dead

the hit points didn't even show up

[feral grotto]

Didn't stop to think that you missed him?

[summer geyser]

idk I haven't been playing bf5 since 2 months ago

[orchid shore]

pretty sure the hitmarker was working

[summer geyser]

Altho most of the bugs I've seen is weird death and menu bugs

and every weird stuff that happens in combat I attributed to my bad aim LOL

[solid hinge]

Battlefield 4?

Add me on ps4 Landenplanes

Crashfield V

[orchid shore]

I got a good feeling that if DICE does decide to delay the content, that's fine. It's better than having to release more content within a broken state of the game

But we all know that isn't going to happen

[solid hinge]

oh my god

just

what is this playerbase

why are they so passive

i mean the playstyles ingame

people play like it's the most hardcore intense battle royal

this game has some of the smoothest movement mechanics

what does little jimmy do?

hide in a bush

it's kinda infuriating how people just run for a corner as soon as they can

or a bush

scratch that, it's very infuriating

that's the new scrubby mmg?

[stoic breach]

Wouldnt be scrubby if it could ads

Its not even scrubby but it is an MMG

Rip potential class balance and all

[coral fiber]

Why am i always british i just wanna use my panzer 38t

[solid hinge]

it actually looks super easy to use

the hipfire means you can just hose down people without much aim

that and the high rof

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

dice

can you like

stop with the mmgs?

enough mmgs

[midnight nimbus]

I mean tbf you still need to aim with hipfire

[solid hinge]

enough fucking bipoded weapons holy goddamn shit

yea but it looks way easier

vs the pinpoint accuracy of ads

[stoic breach]

Visual recoil works by following the front of the gun right?

[midnight nimbus]

like you need to aim harder to make good use of hipfire if anything

[stoic breach]

So if MMGs could ads they would have alot of recoil right?

[solid hinge]

mmgs are god tier

[upper vault]

We need more SMGs and less MMGs.

[solid hinge]

just stop running into them lmao

[stoic breach]

Or am I shitting myself

[upper vault]

We have enough MMGs and LMGs right now.

[midnight nimbus]

like MMGs are stupid as shit, but they really aren't that good

[solid hinge]

they shouldnt be this good

to be fair

but something about this game just incentivizes passive play

[midnight nimbus]

like just apply PIAT

[solid hinge]

they should be on par with stationary machine guns

[stoic breach]

Its just having no recoil while bipodded

[solid hinge]

since those are also not as good

they nerfed the piat

[midnight nimbus]

BFV is a really passive game

[upper vault]

MMGs are great, but for the sake of balancing, we need more SMGs and Carbines.

[solid hinge]

plus i play recon so

[midnight nimbus]

the stationary MGs are ridiculously fucking good

[solid hinge]

i thought the visibility change wouldve made a massive difference in the meta

[midnight nimbus]

insane DPS

[stoic breach]

@midnight nimbus does visual recoil come from the camera following the front of the gun?

[solid hinge]

isn't visual recoil just the animation

[midnight nimbus]

BFV doesn't glue your point of aim to the center of your screen anymore

idk if you can categorize it as "visual recoil"

but it is annoying as shit

[stoic breach]

Its easy to say

[midnight nimbus]

also BFV has a lot of horizontal recoil

much more so than previous BFs

[stoic breach]

Should just have an AR with no vrec and alot of hrec, Battlefield Flatline

[solid hinge]

hmm

[midnight nimbus]

epic screenshake gun

[solid hinge]

does this game even have a SAR like gun?

[stoic breach]

It would be epic

[solid hinge]

low dps no recoil

[stoic breach]

Ptsd similator rifle

[midnight nimbus]

would be awful

[upper vault]

I wish that DLCs were back,

Considering the fact that the amt. of content atm lacks from the amt. of content from BF1

[stoic breach]

Low dps no recoil is pretty much the MP40

[midnight nimbus]

or Ribey

[upper vault]

And the fact that BF1 had much more factions.

[solid hinge]

oh yeah the ribey

that's pretty much it

forgot it exists

[stoic breach]

I keep forgetting about it too

[midnight nimbus]

well actually the low RoF guns out DPS the high RoF ones in most scenarios

[upper vault]

I thought the ribey was nerfed?

[midnight nimbus]

nah

never nerfed

[stoic breach]

Are you talking about at range or in general?

[solid hinge]

at range

[midnight nimbus]

just got the same spread changes as all the other ARs

[solid hinge]

mp40 is a bit too low dps at range

[midnight nimbus]

i mean the MP40 still fucks on most other SMGs in terms of ranged DPS

[solid hinge]

isnt the new smg the new ultimate ranged smg?

mab or something

[stoic breach]

Not really

Only if you wanna try and push its use cases out

I tap with it at range cause I like trying to extend the range of whatever weapon I'm using

[solid hinge]

hmm

gotta buy with it cc and im at like 5k

[stoic breach]

Why so low

You arent a real gamer unless you save up and cant use it for anything

[solid hinge]

i spent it all on shitty common cosmetics and upgrades for vehis

[upper vault]

I see

[midnight nimbus]

well

dumping a low RoF gun at range is always better than tapping a higher RoF gun

except maybe the 1907

low RoF SMGs don't lose up close as hard as you'd think

[slow cradle]

What's with the magenta bags/pouches players are carrying now

[echo glen]

Magenta?

Sounds like a texture glitch

[solid hinge]

yeah it is

and its usually a client side thing

just like invisibility glitch

[slow cradle]

Interesting how it affects only 1 part of the character. Someone forgot to commit his changes before taking off for the weekend?

[solid hinge]

I think i'm the only one that trash with the lewish gun

[idle breach]

hmm

strange

can't go wrong with lewis with specialization

[upper vault]

I’m probably the only one that’s trash with the lee enfield.

[idle breach]

get used to it and you'll be fine really. pretty versatile

[soft atlas]

why do you always make useless updates that change nothing in the game and just make my harddrive more full instead of actually doing something cool

[solid hinge]

Does Firestorm count towards your general stats or is it Firestorm specific stats only

[feral grotto]

The second option

Under profile you got a firestorm section

[sonic rampart]

A wild squid , should I revive him?

[gleaming forum]

Hey, I just updated the game and now it can't start (shows black window, loading screen, just crashes / goes away again). Anyone else got the same problem?

[gray glade]

@sonic rampart If he dies. He dies.

[quiet ingot]

If I missed last week’s tides of war weapon, Can I buy with company coin?

[feral grotto]

Eventually, yes @quiet ingot

[gleaming forum]

Ah, finally, the game starts again. After downloading 30 GB, then another 3 GB file repair xD

[sonic rampart]

Shouldve thrown a molotov on him to end the suffer

[solid hinge]

al sudan has unique music!?

[formal valve]

Guys

I can’t play this game

It has crashed a total of 22 times and counting today

[foggy creek]

Lmao

[gray glade]

@sonic rampart actually the easiest way to kill a squid is to stick something really sharp between its eyes

it will die instantly

[foggy creek]

22 I'd throw my console out the window

[formal valve]

I’m just counting

[gray glade]

@foggy creek yeah you and all the other xbox dudes on reddit

[solid hinge]

the question is

[formal valve]

I want to see how many times before i finally get a game

[solid hinge]

why the fuck are you still trying to play

[formal valve]

I’m gonna keep counting

[quiet ingot]

EcksBAWKS

[solid hinge]

why are you boiling your blood and ruining your day trying to place this game

[formal valve]

So I can show dice how bad it is rn

[solid hinge]

when you could just play a better one

[foggy creek]

@gray glade blood for the blood god

[formal valve]

@solid hinge I played BF4 for 5 hours

BFV crashed 13 times this morning

[quiet ingot]

Did u lift today tho

[gray glade]

yeah 😃

[formal valve]

So I thought I’d give it a break

I actually did

[quiet ingot]

There u go

[solid hinge]

play anything else

[formal valve]

This morning I had football workouts

[upper vault]

Is BF4 still good?

The servers and all that stuff.

[quiet ingot]

It’s fine

[solid hinge]

fuck football

[formal valve]

Yeee

[upper vault]

I have never played BF4 but I wish,

[quiet ingot]

Hard to go back to bf4 after getting used to bfv

[formal valve]

American football, not football football

[solemn ether]

I think we all should take a huge break from bf5 when they actually fix the game

[solid hinge]

that's even worse

duh

[formal valve]

[solid hinge]

i just logged back on after 2 months

[upper vault]

I don’t wanna miss those ToW weapon rewards,

[solid hinge]

hated it

[upper vault]

I don’t mind missing cosmetics.

[solid hinge]

r u serious

[solemn ether]

You can alway buy it with coins

[quiet ingot]

When

[solid hinge]

better get them before they charge you $10 for it later down the lien!

[formal valve]

There a well there’s four weeks between guns after week 3

[quiet ingot]

I missed the s200

Bc I was crushed w work

[upper vault]

You can buy it

[solemn ether]

[upper vault]

Soon

For CC

[solemn ether]

Yeah

[upper vault]

BF1 has more content by now if you take the time periods in consideration.

[solid hinge]

who needs guns when you can have dirt on face

[upper vault]

BFV still has less maps,

[quiet ingot]

Really hard to play bf1 after bfv bc of 3D spotting

[solemn ether]

Who needs guns when you have angel face paint

[solid hinge]

what

3d spotting is good

[quiet ingot]

Bfv makes u unlearn so many mechanics and then bf1 and bf4 put them all back and it’s like ppl are playing with hacks

It’s really not

[solid hinge]

look at it this way

no 3d spotting = piss poor pace, players get desperate, passive bitchy play all around

[feral grotto]

now it will be better as i got te link -_-"

You know something's wrong with everyone on the server when you have a 2 man squad, best squad

https://imgur.com/a/bwI6dmX

[solemn ether]

I feel sorry for all you xbox owners

[formal valve]

26 times

And still going

[solemn ether]

Smh

[solid hinge]

ikr

as if having an xbox isnt bad enough

[formal valve]

Can’t wait till crash 45

[quiet ingot]

That’s really not the way it works. Spotting works in bfv the same way that it does in most shooters - ie u have recon on someone when your teammate calls it out

It’s the way it should work for anyone who has played a FPS for the past 10 yrs

[solid hinge]

bf isnt your typical shooter lol

that and the environments in this game are just too detailed and cluttered