I know they will. Doubt theyll care.
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
rough crystal
i wish the devs would make assignments not suck
"we'll look into fixing it" and they never fucking did
fucking mmg kills over 50m
rough crystal
i use just about everything, im just tryna gild the s2 to fill time
solid hinge
And dont even get me started on the boys
rough crystal
lol
solid hinge
mmg kills over 50m arent too hard
rough crystal
im having mad trouble with it
solid hinge
s2 is super super accurate
rough crystal
keep getting sniped form across the map, or sector arty forces me to move
plus fuck fine aiming wiht a controller lol
rough crystal
yeah, its what i got reccomended elsewhere
devastation might work
waiting on a friend to get back to me to help with it
solid hinge
It's closer range, but if you can set up at the end of one of the long areas you should be able to get anyone who comes round the corner
rough crystal
sounds like a plan
yeah i just got picked off on hamada again so, devastation it is
solid hinge
hamada has the distance but its so open
rough crystal
breakthrough or conquest?
steel agate
Are some of you already done with the 40 chapter ranks??
solid hinge
Theres nowhere safe to set up that isnt in sniper view
rough crystal
some people just paid to get them instantly
solid hinge
Probably possible in breakthrough, but if you dont mind camping for a whole round conquest should be okay
rough crystal
gonna go with conq
steel agate
Did you guys know that there's an easter egg if you pay for all of the chapter ranks?
rough crystal
lmao
your mom comes in and asks why the fuck theres a £50 charge
"its for easter egg i swear"
steel agate
Each of the 40 ranks plays a beat to the BF4 theme song
rough crystal
wow wtf
kick ass
@solid hinge just to check, what do you mean by "one of the long areas?"
like up on the pipe organ or?....
because holy shit is 50m further than i thought
cuz up there and shooting towards the benches isnt 50m
and down the sides of the church its too dusty
fathom crown
oh my god just found the battlefield community survey
please everyone take it and convey your thoughts
rough crystal
my game froze twice in a row
compact oxide
Wut
twin current
I just got 5 kills with a single incendiary grenade, except I don't even have incendiaries equipped
wtf?
analog mist
Must have shot one
compact oxide
Did you shoot one?
analog mist
Look at you
twin current
ah, maybe
analog mist
Mr. MLGpro
compact oxide
Where you buy levels?
The microtransactions in BFV 
Like I actually spent a bit on lootboxes in BF1, never doing it in BFV
icy sluice
$1 for 30 scraps
icy sluice
1200 scraps 
glossy locust
clue me in why are people complaining about the AP mine nerf?
what did they add to the game besides cheap kills?
the only class that can justify tactically having them is recon
analog mist
People who are killed by AP mines are blind.
glossy locust
oh yeah and booby-trapped supply stations were great for the game?
I don't understand this community, half wants the game to actually be a competitive shooter and the other half wants this hardcore COD gimmick style game
solid hinge
neither of those are what battlefield are
analog mist
I just want a battlefield game.
AP mines by resupply points are common knowledge, your own damn fault if you fall for it for the millionth time
solid hinge
if youre too busy sliding and running to a supply station to look for a large tube on the ground, get good
glossy locust
explain to me what they offer but cheap kills
solid hinge
like vehicles arent just used for cheap kills
glossy locust
except you actually have to aim your plane or turret
solid hinge
oh yeah thats real hard in a tank
glossy locust
harder than putting an ap mine on a supply station!
analog mist
Prevent people from resupplying or to cover a blind spot, that is what they are there for.
glossy locust
and besides it's never been harder to dominate in a vehicle than it is in BFV
so please just stop with that argument
solid hinge
if youre mad at AP mines on supply station, maybe first think about the supply station mechanic in general.
glossy locust
supply station and fortifications are stupid too
i have said it since this game launched
attrition as well
solid hinge
are you daft? Vehicles are the cheapest thing in game. Just because you rush into the middle of aerodrome with a tiger tank does not mean they are hard
analog mist
I will agree to supply stations, but I actually like fortifications
glossy locust
cheaper than artillery strikes and v1s
cheaper than ap mines?!
what are you playing
forts can stay or go i agree
attrition and supply stations are bad
analog mist
There's actually no point to attrition with all the ammo and health just laying on the maps.
glossy locust
right, attrition is only impactful when you run out of ammo and then literally have to find a station like a fetch quest
solid hinge
artillery strikes are gross I agree, V-1s I kinda like because it takes a competent squad to call in. You can destroy ap mines with any weapon in game and it cannot fight back. A tiger tank across the map is impervious except to planes
glossy locust
it's just dumb
midnight nimbus
wtf dude vehicles are easier to use than ever
glossy locust
really? bf1 and bf3 and bf4 has more dominant vehicles
bf1 tanks were super strong
midnight nimbus
BF3/4 vehicles are more dominant, but harder to use
like the attack heli has an endlessly low skill floor
analog mist
BF1 tanks felt strong because there was only 1 gadget that could touch them at range.
midnight nimbus
but an endlessly high skill ceiling, which is why it can be so hideously dominant
BF3/4 vehicles are so much easier to counter than BFV's
glossy locust
attack heli is actually bad for most players on most maps but godly on shanghai with an expert
scout heli was better in general
midnight nimbus
two fundamentally different vehicles
you use them very differently
attack heli is all about keeping your range and using that high max speed
scout heli is all about fancy flying
glossy locust
right but unless the pilot was an expert most maps didn't have the cover for your average player to use the attack (rogue transmission)
midnight nimbus
yeah, bc you need to use hills to break LoS with the AH
it's about keeping your range otherwise
bc you can still use rockets at hideous ranges
same with TOW/TV
BF3 was all about the hovercamp
glossy locust
anyways yes i agree in general, tanks are fragile in bfv but yes the turret and gun is easier to aim than ever
bfv vehicles are not OP though
midnight nimbus
I mean BFV tanks are pretty punishing of bad positioning
but if you can figure that out, they're easy as piss to use
bc a good position makes you ridiculously hard to counter
I haven't died to an assault in ages
analog mist
I mean, you can even angle your tank now.
glossy locust
ok, but we are talking about cheap gameplay and i don't see what AP mines add to anything
analog mist
So many people don't know this.
midnight nimbus
no, support only
compact oxide
Problem with ap mines is everyone had them
compact oxide
If only one class had them it'd be much less spam
glossy locust
DICE not learning from its mistakes kills me really. BF4 had this exact problem with the homogenous classes
it doesn't work
reef mountain
the new map ou for conquest yet?
midnight nimbus
all classes being able to contribute to the anti vehicle effort is good
midnight nimbus
all classes having some form of CQB, even if it's in a secondary is good
bc you gotta perform on the burn
glossy locust
recon had c4 and it worked fine
reef mountain
i loved the limpet its still used today
glossy locust
wha'ts the limpet was that a timed mine
midnight nimbus
yeah
midnight nimbus
less anti infy focus
reef mountain
limit is magnetic and sticks to the vehicals
glossy locust
bf1 is truly the better game balance wise but yeah tanks can be frustrating
and bombers
midnight nimbus
fuck planes
glossy locust
i was playing it last night
reef mountain
planes on bf1 are better the bfv
glossy locust
also the hero classes are straight cancer lol
compact oxide
They should've just fixed the obviously broken stuff in BF1
reef mountain
did they add the new alsudaN MAP to conquest yet btw?
glossy locust
well except for flamethrower bro he's badass
midnight nimbus
BF1 was an amazing small mode game
bc none of the stupid shit exists in small modes
glossy locust
well everyone touts (me included) about bfv gunplay and it's really unbalanced looking at it objectively
the assault dominance
compact oxide
Maybe added a separate cooldown on planes so you can't spam the heavy bomber each time, you need to pick another plane or wait way longer
glossy locust
like the RNG in bf1 is no different than random spread in most popular shooters today
midnight nimbus
but much better than other BFs
compact oxide
Bfv gunplay is bleugh
compact oxide
I liked it at first but BF1 is so much more enjoyable
glossy locust
it's such a incorrect notion
midnight nimbus
dude BF1 RNG is nothing new
drifting marsh
they took out the recoil direction stuffs on guns
drifting marsh
that's the best thing
glossy locust
what was new was the desired ranges
formal valve
I want the pacific 😫
glossy locust
so the smgs were actually really bad at long distnace
midnight nimbus
BF1 actually had less spread than BF4
glossy locust
right but they really defined the weapon types
smgs were straight trash at range
as they should be
drifting marsh
unless
you hipfire
midnight nimbus
BF3/4 have better hipfire
actually BFV even has better hipfire than 1 at this point
glossy locust
bf3 had better hipfire than ads i was watching a vid of the slow burst
you could shoot it like a damn laser
drifting marsh
midnight nimbus
nah BF3 ADS was still better than hipfire
drifting marsh
i see lol
midnight nimbus
yeah that's euro hipfire
glossy locust
i didn't even know about it when i played
midnight nimbus
it's ADS spread in hipfire view
glossy locust
yeah anyways gunplay and netcode in bf4 are so far behind the current titles i can't even play them
i have unisntalled both after trying them again
drifting marsh
scopes feel so wrong when i use them
glossy locust
mainly the delayed netcode is terrible in bf3 and better but still bad in bf4
midnight nimbus
BFV gunplay is brainless af too, but at least it doesn't require you to click fast
drifting marsh
like the sights itself move differently from the scope
it's confusing
glossy locust
i dunno one of the support guns the LS? It has some wicked recoil and is pretty damn satifying
seems not like a laser
like most guns
the smgs liek the mp40 feel great, mainly it's the SARS that ruin everythign
midnight nimbus
LS has ez recoil
but go back to BF3 pls
just give everything ez recoil
I don't get the obsession with recoil control in FPS
glossy locust
does LS have ez recoil compared to other guns
seemed to kick like shit
compared to the bren
or the lewis
midnight nimbus
I mean i think everything in BFV has ez recoil
glossy locust
or anything
midnight nimbus
but i don't think adding fucktons of recoil is a good thing
puts off new players
glossy locust
i mean no there is no CS Ak in the game
midnight nimbus
experienced players don't care either way
glossy locust
obviously recoil control is popular pubg
you said it yourself it has good gunplaqy
midnight nimbus
you don't need bigly recoil to make a skilled game
you never hear pros talk about recoil much
bc it's irrelevant at a high level
it's technical minutia people obsess about
glossy locust
actually shroud when he was trying mercury first thing he said was how bfv lacks recoil
and it does with that 3x scope that everyone runs
midnight nimbus
BFV has the most recoil in the series
glossy locust
spray control is a high end skill in CS that like all recoil no?
midnight nimbus
most autos have like double the recoil of similar RoF BF4 autos
spray control isn't a high end skill in CS
bc at the high end everyone can do it
glossy locust
i thought it was what get_right was known for
midnight nimbus
like the thing about recoil control is that you do the same thing every time
no decision making
you're gonna do the same shit every time you shoot that gun
glossy locust
right but there are some pros that are better at spraying than others, let me look this up could have sworn
midnight nimbus
well in CS, the spread model allows for varied shooting
so R6S has no spread, so all everyone does is just spray at face level
but in CS, you have players that can go for one taps better than others, like scream
but bc of CS's spread model, you're actually pretty fucked if you miss that first shot
glossy locust
R6 the guns are laser to me, but i don't watch pro scene
midnight nimbus
you have to really stop shooting and start all over again, and by then, you're dead
so most players focus on the spray
ironic how BF1 moved to a spread model more similar to CS and people screamed casual
lol
glossy locust
so true
solid hinge
console kiddies vs pc master race
glossy locust
and now we have guns with no spread and poor visibility and it's "best gunplay"
midnight nimbus
I've lost all hope in BF
well guns still have spread
just less than before
nuanced shooting is less relevant than before
you can just turn your brain off and get sloppy
midnight nimbus
I love BF1 sniping
glossy locust
now*
midnight nimbus
yes, sniping was relevant in BF1
you can pubstomp just as hard as you would with a medic SLR
solid hinge
they want the fortnite audience
midnight nimbus
the only issue I take with BF1 sniping was 80 min damage
glossy locust
and people hate being sniped but are ok with m1a1 or more like gweher perefctly accurate bullet spam
glossy locust
yeah but the sweet spot i think was fine
midnight nimbus
so it gave people the impression that they were getting sweet spotted, when in reality they weren't
60 min damage would've been perfect with BF1's multipliers
compact oxide
Yeah BF1s snipers needed more dropoff tbh
High damage up close though
The quickswap memes were the only thing that got me into sniping
compact oxide
No
warm atlas
No thanks.
compact oxide
Defs disagree there
warm atlas
I’d like it if the game didn’t turn into MW2. We were almost getting there with the PIAT and grenade launcher spam.
reef mountain
they complain about he game not being realistic but a sniper is for 1 hit kills irl and they complain about snipers
glossy locust
well if it was like the AWP and you actually got penalized HARD for moving while shooting (why don't we have this in BFV)
midnight nimbus
no CQB sniping is dumb
that's what shotguns are for
if you want a CQB chest shot kill
glossy locust
all guns should have hard accuracy penalized for AD strafing and shooting
midnight nimbus
why should the best long range weapons also be great up close
glossy locust
but there is virtually none
midnight nimbus
BFV had to axe moving spread
the game would be intolerable if moving spread were high
bc of the addition of spread to recoil conversion
compact oxide
Close range sniping should never be 1 hit kill unless headshot or they're weak
midnight nimbus
you'd get a seizure from strafe shooting the StG if BFV moving spread were similar to BF4's
glossy locust
ok fair, but it should be like 80 or 90 damage mroe than a body shot at range...
compact oxide
It should be something you can make work, but obviously not its intended purpose
midnight nimbus
something like 75-80 damage is fine
compact oxide
Yeah
midnight nimbus
lets you do the pistol swap meme
compact oxide
Quickswapping 
glossy locust
i still do teh pistol swap in bfv but probably only with really poor players tbh
compact oxide
That was my love in BFV with the M95
glossy locust
i am an average player so they must be really bad
midnight nimbus
swap times in BFV aren't as good as BF1
it was actually pretty effective in 1
also BFV guns kill faster in general
compact oxide
It's too slow and sidearms suck
glossy locust
bf1 the pistols were borderline OP i remember like camping as a recon and getting multiple kills
midnight nimbus
so relatively speaking, it was much better in 1
glossy locust
with a flank with it
compact oxide
Also yeah higher overall ttk
midnight nimbus
BF1 pistols are still weaker than BF4
but they were still good
much better than V
glossy locust
the revolver is a 2 hit kill or a one hit headshot it's fine
mild summit
Damn this is actually active hell yeah
glossy locust
i talk more in here than play the game almost
mild summit
Haha I’m new here so I didn’t expect this
glossy locust
bfv last patch basically bricked the game
compact oxide
I mean it's active now
midnight nimbus
I literally cannot run it
mild summit
I just got bf5 it’s a hit or miss with me. I like it but I don’t
midnight nimbus
it actively tries to kill my CPU
glossy locust
i am getting a ryzen 3900x
midnight nimbus
I spend more time stuttering than running it smoothly
glossy locust
and if bfv can't run with that then it's doomed
midnight nimbus
like if you need to spend $500 on a CPU + mobo just to make a game playable
it's a shit game
glossy locust
well you basically do it eats threads for breakfast
so only the intel 9900k is really up to the task
more optiosn from AMD
options
midnight nimbus
the idea of a 6700K not holding up in 2019 is fucking stupid
midnight nimbus
meanwhile i get 200 fps at 120% res scale in BF4
glossy locust
well get used to it ps5 has 16 threads, so you should have at least that by 2020 or 2021
midnight nimbus
back when BFV actually worked, I was only getting 100 fps at 100% res scale
compact oxide
Things still aren't going to use those threads on PC
fathom crown
^^^
compact oxide
It's too much work for the devs
fathom crown
my cpu dies whenever i play bfv honestly..
glossy locust
they will it won't be right away but now tons of games use 8 threads
compact oxide
Not well
midnight nimbus
I mean I'm gonna upgrade my CPU bc i do a lot of other shit that needs the threads
compact oxide
It's exponentially harder to add threads and the perf boost is exponentially less
glossy locust
AC origins runs noticeably better on a 9900k versus an 8 thread CPU
compact oxide
9900K is also much faster
glossy locust
and i haven't seen benches but i bet bfv has better frametimes as well on higher threaded cpu
midnight nimbus
like fuck a dev studio expecting their playerbase to invest in expensive ass hardware just to make their game playable
vestal locust
So I did an experiment where I did 40 some kills while PTFOing, end score was roughly 19-21K. Checked my ToW and I actually can confirm (may be wrong) yet I only earned 8-9K xp toward the next level. So the cap of 10K a game may be true, no matter how well ya did
midnight nimbus
bc that's obviously a brilliant way to attract more players
glossy locust
well bf3 and bf4 pushed the envelope too
midnight nimbus
well no
compact oxide
This is why you never play bfv and instead fo back to Bf1 
glossy locust
BF has always been challenging to run
glossy locust
crazy enough is i get STUTTER in bf1 now and i never did when i played it when it was current
midnight nimbus
all at super potato settings
glossy locust
windows update killed games
midnight nimbus
and you can still see people
compact oxide
Frostbite has always been a CPU intensive engine but it's gotten too bloated and unoptimised
midnight nimbus
vs BFV where i can't see piss without a cfg that makes the game hideous and a 1440p monitor
glossy locust
there is a post on reddit a guy did a test windwos 1607 both bfv anf bf1 run like butter
windows 1903 runs like shit
it's frostbite and windows
glossy locust
frostbite and windows and weirdly doesn't effect battlefront 2
midnight nimbus
but this seems more like a BF problem
glossy locust
yeah so the guy did all windows versions between windows 1607 and 1903 so like 6 versions
all stutter after 1607
vestal locust
Worse frames happen when ya kill someone when using the Panzer IV
glossy locust
it's mostly a frostbite battlefield problem
compact oxide
Yup
glossy locust
games will need 16 threads in 5 years to run well mark my words (new games on ps5 and xbox scorpio
midnight nimbus
and CSGO, which can be run on a toaster, will still probably be relevant
maybe we should return to thinking about good robust gameplay first before making the game super pretty
bc BF3/4 are still plenty pretty
glossy locust
yes, but PC platform should be for pushing technical not running it on a PC from 2004
asking a lot from devs to cater to that too
midnight nimbus
I fucking hate the trends in gaming from the past year or so
so many games look like they're made for 4K
lower resolutions be damned
compact oxide
People were saying years ago that getting X99 for six cores was worth it (myself included). It turns out raw IPC still wins out
glossy locust
well visibility is not a graphic problem when bf1 looks nearly as good and has zero issues even with no spotting
not on every game and average framerate is not the whole story, if average framerate is how you win than raw IPC will always be king
midnight nimbus
yeah BF1 visibility isn't what I'd consider fantastic, but it's good enough
compact oxide
Even 1% and 0.1% lows are better with IPC
glossy locust
well CSGO character models are actually pretty damn good now and i never can't recognize them
compact oxide
Dependant on the game and the CPU of course
midnight nimbus
BF4 is still my favorite game, visually
BF1 still blinds you if you're indoors and look out of a window
like jfc DICE, soldiers have eyes, not cameras implanted in their skulls
it's not even realistic
glossy locust
i encourage you to check out gamer nexus testing the 9600k the famous neutered 6 core no hyperthreading chip
midnight nimbus
actually BFH is visually superior to BF4
glossy locust
lack of threads is apparent in frametime
compact oxide
9600k is awful of course
9700k also isn't something I'd buy, YET is actually gets the same or more frames in things than the 9900k
glossy locust
frametime to me and maybe not anyone else but it's stutter to me
far cry 5 gets stutter on my 7700k and in the gamer nexus you can see even on the 9700k the frametime spike
9900k is like a fricking heartbeat
no spike
midnight nimbus
BFV makes me lose so much hope for the FPS genre
compact oxide
Me too tbh
glossy locust
BFV literally was ruined by the boomer gneration like you said
wanting it to be hardcore
naive thunder
BFV could have been dark, gritty, & showed how the war truly was, but nope
compact oxide
Dammit! Forgot to add a boomersipp emote here
midnight nimbus
BrInG bAcK tEaMpLaY
glossy locust
it's now in no mans land to hardcore for casuals and not competitive enough to be a popular shooter
midnight nimbus
play BF4 in a competitive/coordinated setting, and there's no lack of teamplay
naive thunder
I still remember COD World At War when I was growing up as a kid, a really dark, gritty, violent & disturbing experience
Wish BFV had a lot of that
midnight nimbus
I'm not even asking for a super gritty setting
compact oxide
Also you can't play BFV at all unless you have a $5000 PC
glossy locust
i have wanted gore in bf for years, but it will never be added
radiant sparrow
I hate how completely hopeless it feels if you don't have an even half decent squad
midnight nimbus
I enjoy gritty settings as much as I love something lighthearted like BF Hardline
BFH is still my favorite FPS game to date
compact oxide
BFV should be like the DC Dark universe 
radiant sparrow
In previous battlefield games I could do something even if my squad was brain dead
but having a good squad was still a huge benefit
now it's completely mandatory
naive thunder
I'm about to play COD World At War again here in a few minutes, still gives me chills to this day 
midnight nimbus
yeah, i love teamplay, but i don't wanna be punished for my teammates sucking at it
i can't control that
glossy locust
so despite it's faults i enjoy bfv a lot at times, firestorm wtih squads is super fun
naive thunder
Feels like what BFV should have been like
radiant sparrow
A decent number of the changes in bfv I like, like no 3d spotting
midnight nimbus
and the ceiling for max teamplay effectiveness in BFV isn't even that good
radiant sparrow
I hope they don't throw that out along with everything else
naive thunder
Will the next Battlefield have the attrition system?
compact oxide
Tbh 3d spotting wasn't that bad now I go back to BF1
radiant sparrow
just shoot at the orange triangles through the smoke
midnight nimbus
and?
compact oxide
There's so much I complained about in BF1 that they "fixed" in BFV only to find out the old way was much better
midnight nimbus
it's not like the doritos remove the requirement of aiming
you're clicking on pixels at the end of the day
naive thunder
Agreed, attrition really isn't something I like
midnight nimbus
like you still need to aim at the what's underneath the doritos
glossy locust
i mean the "hardcore boomer crowd" won. They got rid of spotting, you can no longer heal without a medic or resupply without a support (station). The "RNG BS" (skill-based) spread of BF1 is gone and now we have deadly accurate COD 3x scope SARS. Compound the super lethal TTK and you have a camper's paradise and having to rely on braindead teamates to have enjoyable games.
coarse thunder
Milsimmers
midnight nimbus
dude
milsimmers just need to play a milsim game
instead of asking for an arcade game to become milsim
glossy locust
and the irony is the milsim games are so much better at being milsim than bfv
naive thunder
I feel like the next Battlefield needs to get rid of attrition & fix their shit AKA stop all the censoring, etc. or I'll be done with the franchise for good
glossy locust
so they are better served doing so
radiant sparrow
yeah squad is so much better at doing it than bfv
since it actually has the tools for in depth required teamplay
naive thunder
Been playing since Bad Company but it was so bad this time around that I'm about ready to drop the series if they don't fix their shit
And fast
midnight nimbus
yes, i don't wanna see BF become a shitty milsim
if i wanna play a milsim, I'll play a game that's designed from the ground up to be one
radiant sparrow
in bfv it's just "hope your braindead teammates spawn on you and press Q on you"
glossy locust
once or twice a play session i have to turn around from the frontlines and fine a support station often getting killed in the proces
it's a terrible system
midnight nimbus
do people not get that all the goofy arcade shit is why BF was loved by good players
@glossy locust what? you don't like playing your fetch sidequest? 😂
naive thunder
It works on paper when the average player actually knows how to play their class @glossy locust
Not so much in reality
midnight nimbus
PRETTY PLAY
designed for kiosk demos
looks very cool for a few minutes, really tiring to actually play
solid hinge
The churchill is kind of shit for tank combat, the hesh shell gets affected just way too much by gravity , and the full right one does less than 20 dmg
glossy locust
see bf1 has some really annoying aspects, especially the hero classes and tanks/planes (not all the time) but it really was a culmination great BF play otherwise. If they had only continued with it. BFV with BF1 gun mechanics and no attrition is actually a better game
solid hinge
The valentine is kind of ok
glossy locust
DICE thinks they need to reinvent the wheel all the time. I guess becuase they got shit for BF4 being a reskin of bf3
midnight nimbus
@glossy locust I think BFV zero brain gunplay is a good thing
solid hinge
Ive got a 38 streak for using tanks the way they were suppose to
radiant sparrow
all the super long sightlines paired with the power of SARs is also really frustrating
glossy locust
but in hindsight bf4 is regarded as their best title (not by me, but the community)
midnight nimbus
people enjoy their no brain mad DPS M16 blasting
it's very approachable to new players
radiant sparrow
You either play medic and are able to have health or play assault and are able to actually shoot things
midnight nimbus
Valentine Mk8 is my go-to for my hideous 70+ kill/0 death farms
glossy locust
but easy mastery of game mechanics is not necessarily what keeps you game popular.
compact oxide
@radiant sparrow or play support and prone in a corner with an mmg
glossy locust
all the most popular games are super deep with a stupid high skill ceiling
midnight nimbus
@glossy locust well, you generally focus your mastery on other aspects of play
compact oxide
And nobody can spot you
midnight nimbus
like positioning or movement
that's what BF4 top level play was
using zouzou to bust campers
radiant sparrow
I liked the higher BTK of bf4 because it left room for higher caliber weapons
compact oxide
That's why I'm mediocre as a player, I can aim sometimes but my positioning is crap
midnight nimbus
BF4 BTK is pretty much the same as BFV
radiant sparrow
yeah it's kind of just the side effect of lower ROF
glossy locust
but it feels faster in bfv and i think that is verifiable
radiant sparrow
but most weapons being 5 btk let 4 btk weapons exist without being OP
glossy locust
it's not placebo
steel agate
I charge in full frontal at the enemy
glossy locust
you die super quick in bfv
steel agate
I don't die though
radiant sparrow
Since most in bfv are 4 btk a 3btk would be op
compact oxide
Netcode is crap in BFV which is why it feels bad
midnight nimbus
and prolly >50m
steel agate
BF4 is easier to play than BFV
compact oxide
Getting killed behind cover anyone?
steel agate
by a mile
midnight nimbus
BF4 has a way higher ceiling
steel agate
yes, if your body clips through cover
icy sluice
I'm actually tied for place 49 for Dogtags taken
midnight nimbus
BFV is just sperg tier easy
compact oxide
Yup
celest siren
compact oxide
Not really any skil ceiling, at least BF1 had one
steel agate
My top BF4 weapon..... has 43,512 kills
steel agate
My top weapon is the G18 pistol LOL
compact oxide
Lol
blazing pasture
If they add the P-51 they better include the whistle
blazing pasture
Frommer Stop Auto?
blazing pasture
I used that along with the Obrez Pistol in BF1.
compact oxide
It was a primary in BF1 so not surprised
blazing pasture
The close/long range makes it so fun
coarse thunder
Should bring the Maschinenpistole instead
midnight nimbus
BF1 AL8 35 was infinitely more difficult to master than any gun in BFV
compact oxide
True tbh
midnight nimbus
and actually was extremely rewarding
compact oxide
I wasn't a fan due to the skill level needed
I mean, I still got the 15 kills in a game with it for the RSC optical
midnight nimbus
my K/D in BF1 was so shit for the longest time bc i tried to get good with it
I was like a <1 K/D shitter for months trying to use it
compact oxide
Oof
midnight nimbus
one day, it just clicked and I was dropping 4-5+ K/D every game
compact oxide
You're a factory fan right? Not a marksman?
midnight nimbus
both
compact oxide
Fair
midnight nimbus
like at my peak, i was getting >50% acc 3KPM games with it
coarse thunder
Liu gang
midnight nimbus
and actually got around to being able to get 2 kills per mag with it
RSC SMG required some serious mastery as well
compact oxide
Liu was great
RSC SMG was mindblowingly infuriating to me
Every game I'd get a >1 KD with it
compact oxide
Yeah,
compact oxide
I loved the trench, the 1906 too
compact oxide
I really liked the experimental sniper too
coarse thunder
Rip pre ttk 2.0 SMG08
compact oxide
Basically shotgun range for sniper
compact oxide
It was my first fps that I really got into
midnight nimbus
I fucking love jumpshotting people and insta deleting them with BF4 shotguns
or using something like FAMAS
but the high effort guns in BF1 were real different and really fun
midnight nimbus
RSC post buff was just obscene
compact oxide
Yup
compact oxide
Got a LOT of hackusations for the RSC optical
midnight nimbus
I have a friend with like 60% overall acc with the RSC Factory
naive thunder
BF1 bombers though
coarse thunder
Cancerfest
naive thunder
I loved walking up to an objective & being hit with a literal football field of "fuck you"
BF1 bombers in a nutshell
midnight nimbus
BF1 is the only BF game I didn't play to be as cancerous as possible
compact oxide
Moromets is counterable but it's such a pain when you have an idiot spawning it in over and over and over
coarse thunder
Hipfire MG42
midnight nimbus
nah
MMGs are the shallowest end of the cancer
infy in general is the shallow end
midnight nimbus
back when it was good, yea
now i have to use medium tanks
Ju-88 is the pinnacle
coarse thunder
Case shells for the Valentine AA
midnight nimbus
but I hate flying
boosting V-1s 😩
oh Fortress was the epitome of BFV
i spawn in Valentine
friend on the enemy team spawns in Ju-88
we don't touch each other and we farm each other's teams
lilac edge
what causes the random screen flash that makes my screen blurry and blue for a second?
coral fiber
Bug
compact oxide
It's one of those flying flashing city cameras from half life 2
BFV is half life 3 confirmed
spring wigeon
why is german face paint not available?
solid hinge
half life is a better game than cod
half life 1 singleplayer can eat cod4's one anyday
this is an objective fact and I will stop there because this is the bf channel
grand haven
@spring wigeon Known bug.
steel agate
I get huge hit reg glitches when I shoot planes
Shots magically explode like there's an invisible forcefield in front of enemy planes half the time
Yes
bf5
spring wigeon
@grand haven Cheers mate!!
latent bridge
fathom pebble
gray glade
tack you very much 😄
solid hinge
anyone wanna be my friend
no
jk sure
im gonna do something hella madladish
im actually gonna play the game
wish me luck, fellers
gleaming silo
Bf5 is a failure
solemn sundial
fallow hawk
Guys I got a serious question
How many active oceana servers on bf1?
Thinking of buying the game
dusky saffron
not many tbh
there's a small number of servers in every region since the game is kinda done
fallow hawk
Ouch
What about bfv
Oh c'mon 😓
Are there at least 3-4 ish active servers
Or should I stick to bf4
solid hinge
Why does the axis not have any face paint anymore?
fallow hawk
?
solid hinge
Thought maybe their moms kept going "Let me just get that for you"
fallow hawk
@oblique parcel cheers
gray glade
the language censor in BFV is so terrible
i literally said in chat "don't you just love it when you summon a tank and it doesnt appear, so you just wasted points"
solid hinge
8 Full server in oceania right now in conquest, 1 with a single open slot
gray glade
apparently that sentence is the equivalence of using the N word
solid hinge
1 with 7 open slots
fallow hawk
@oblique parcel @solid hingewhat game are you guys talking about?
solid hinge
I just assumed battlefield V
I had it open already, so I just checked the server browser
I have it filtered just to conquest right now
solid hinge
Can't help you there
prisma current
i need help
ich cant do the flamens of war missions
im on ze panzer! but its starting to unlock the last mission
fallow hawk
Is 1 dying?
vestal trail
I think bf1 is popular on ps4
Multiple people in my friend list still play it
I also play it but not often
solid hinge
I dont think its reasonable to expect EA/Dice to micro-manage server population 24-7, waiting a few minutes for an open slot is not a catastrophe
unreal wadi
Facts
The planes hit boxes are in front if the plane now
Because of the glitch
The one glitch where your person prones out of no where been here since bf1
Westi did a video talking about the glitches in bf1 and that is one of the glitches that still effects some players
opaque cipher
I’ve seen about four fifth of those bugs
fallow hawk
I'll play the bf1 trial
opaque cipher
And my playtime is tiny
fallow hawk
See if I like it
wary tapir
The biggest damn disappointment
Like they couldn't add 2 damn more skins
We already freaking know everything about them, even armory images
solid hinge
I only use a plane to back cap if I'm brits on hamada conquest or if we're running out of time and need it right now
wary tapir
What the actual F. are they doing?!
Meh not worth anymore
Such a disappointment..
Elites
I mean they even freakin announced it themselves.. and we got all the info, u can even see the 3d model on the armory images, yet we need someone to just enable those damn codes..
Meh whats the point in me typing anyways, there is no Dev who even looks at this.
visual onyx
No new or rumour this game would make an attempt on eSports, right? I was hopeful that it would be announced something at EA Play, but nothing :/
Yes
Or something else that nobody would know
lol
I think BF is getting behind in time.. it's ok for the majority of the community to play casual in those 32 vs 32 game modes, but they are not offering what a good part of the community also wants
balmy steeple
I doubt that there are that many people that care about eSports in Battlefield
echo glen
Battlefield has always been leaning on the casual side
echo glen
Fix bugs first, THEN, you may put Esports
echo glen
what kind of gamemodes will these 5v5s have? Maybe something from incursions or?
sweet fulcrum
I hope hostages rescue is included
sonic rampart
Same
Omg
What if they changed their mind of the use of the dragging mechanic for MP to a gamemode
I mean like, what if you have to drag hostages
sweet fulcrum
yeet the hostages in the extraction zone
sonic rampart
xD
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glossy locust
I submitted a video and he's not banned yet of him clearly locking onto people outside of his FOV
just venting, i'll stop
solid hinge
that may be, regardless, this is not the appropriate place for it, everyone on this server including staff uses origin to report, its the only acceptable method to do so.
glossy locust
yeah maybe i'll post it on reddit, that seems to inspire action
dark dawn
Why the fuck does s2-200 have 4 skins in the armoury. Like there are guns that have been in bf5 since the launch and some of them don’t have a single new skin
shrewd scaffold
Hello, is there an official Statement when the invsible soldier bug is going to be fixed?
solid hinge
shrewd scaffold
haha, so nothing yet
orchid shore
test
glossy locust
i am getting a 3900x and if this game doesn't run smooth with it i will be shelfing it for good (not)
also, turning game mode OFF in the latest windows build finally gave me a smooth experience, try it if yo uhaven't
it has a lot of conflicts with overlays, so msi afterburner (probably most PC players run this?) OBS or shadowplay/nvidia highlights
all conflict with it
if you run the newest version just search for it in the task bar
it's a setting
basically it's the windows version of shadowplay and it has some optimizations while gaming
like it will turn off windows notifications while playing
haughty pawn
turned off by default for me
glossy locust
in the few cases it helps it's not worth it
like a few fps at most and it conflicts with msi and shadowplay. MSI in particular is used by probably over half of the PC population i would say
haughty pawn
like so many win features 
yeah,i very much prefer riva tuner and stuff
since ages
glossy locust
shadowplay might be even more as it is probably on by default for people with nvidia cards
haughty pawn
yep,on by default
glossy locust
yeah so all three msi, shadowplay and game bar/game mode
all do similar things, MSI is more of a performance tool though
haughty pawn
2 of them want to collect all your data
remote thicket
Hello all
icy sluice
Aloha
remote thicket
I have some questions about in game stability and possible bugs. Where can I discuss that ?
solid hinge
Right here
How does chapter xp work? Because I just got 15.000 xp, but my chapter xp only went up by 7.000 or something like that.
zealous stag
i dont think they ever revealed how Chapter XP wokrs
people have been asking about ths for a long time now
remote thicket
Has anyone else felt like this new update messed up the aim on all aircraft Machine guns?
rancid wadi
I think you can't get more than 9000 xp towards the chapter per round, not counting assignments
At least that's what I heard at one point
zealous stag
does anyone else have the feeling that the weekly challanges have less tasks now to boost their new booster pack?
look at the next two weeks
formal valve
I’m kinda hoping we get at least one new bolt action in chapter 5
Or maybe chapter 4
But that’s unlikely since were already getting two scout weapons
remote thicket
I feel like the bullet velocity or the reticles for planes are messed up.
formal valve
No it’s the hitboxes
manic sparrow
i think we're gonna get a springfield
zealous stag
Yes, Plane Combat is kinda broken right now
manic sparrow
maybe
formal valve
The hitboxes got kinda messed up
icy sluice
Arisaka was shown in the teaser
remote thicket
I have to fly first person if I want to hit anything
formal valve
I hope we get the Arisaka, Springfield, and M1 Garand for the scout
icy sluice
M1 Garand should be an Assault weapon tbh
formal valve
I only want the M1 for Scout becuz Id love to have such a iconic weapon in the scout class
My fav class
manic sparrow
lee enfield is iconic!
formal valve
Yeah true
remote thicket
I’m excited for the new machine guns
icy sluice
Kar98k as well 
remote thicket
And support weapons
formal valve
Yeah
manic sparrow
do the chapters of tow represent different stages of the war
remote thicket
In theory they should, according to the devs
formal valve
They used to
manic sparrow
and its in chronological order?
formal valve
No
manic sparrow
okay good
formal valve
Because we’re getting Iwo Jima, Al Sundan, and Underground
Two of which are in 1945
One is in 1942-43
manic sparrow
my hopes of russian content aren't gone yet
remote thicket
Same here @manic sparrow
formal valve
What if at the end of the chapter 5 trailer they have a big URA?
echo glen
Hopefully Chapter 6 will be the Eastern front
manic sparrow
yesyes this would be good
icy sluice
I assume not...
formal valve
I think chapter 6 will continue the pacific
manic sparrow
its fun to hope
formal valve
And then maybe chapter 7 will be Russia
icy sluice
Chapter 6 would either continue the pacific which is more than likey would happen or would have the Americans in Europe
formal valve
I’d like more Africa
manic sparrow
oooh
icy sluice
Or Chapter 7 is that and Russians appear in Chapter 8
formal valve
Torch Landings, El Alamein
manic sparrow
i want dday grand operation
echo glen
D-day GO is bound to happen
remote thicket
This is random but I think it would be cool to get a Katana as a new melee weapon.
echo glen
Most likely for the chapter 5 ToW chapter rewards
remote thicket
For the pacific update
echo glen
like at tier 40 we'll get a katana
remote thicket
Yeah^
formal valve
For chapter 5 Id love if the Turning Tides North Sea music came back
Like the end of round themes
They’re so good
manic sparrow
do you think there'll be anything australian related in chapter 5? they were kind of important in the pacific
formal valve
manic sparrow
i mean they had some significance at least
echo glen
Bob Semple for BFV
remote thicket
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t he Aussies use mostly British equipment during the war?
echo glen
yes
manic sparrow
correct
echo glen
but they developed some decent stuff like the owen
remote thicket
The Bob Semple tank needs to be in BFV
echo glen
maybe just as a transport
formal valve
Hope we see the Royal Marines return with their WW2 outfits
The green berets
And beanies
The patches
That would be really cool
Seamus is kinda a hybrid of a Royal Marine and Royal Irish guardsman
echo glen
There was a commandeer with a red beret in the trailer
manic sparrow
is it too much to ask for ss uniforms
echo glen
DICE: Yes
formal valve
@echo glen that’s a British Airborne beret
manic sparrow
aha
remote thicket
Lol
formal valve
I mean Royal Marines Commando outfits
formal valve
Np
echo glen
I'll search a picture online
remote thicket
I hope at some point Dice puts in an all Airplanes mode
formal valve
Yeah so a bit of a guide to british berets
Red ones were usually for Airborne I think
manic sparrow
like the one from bf1?
formal valve
The black ones are for tankers
And the green ones are for I know at least Royal Marine Commandos
I don’t think these are the only people that wore them
I think some other units would wear berets
remote thicket
Yeah something like BF1 would be great
formal valve
Oh also if you count this as British
Grey berets were for the Polish independent Parachute brigade
remote thicket
Maybe they could do a bomber escort mode? The game could spawn a couple of bombers with a lot of extra health and have pilots defend or attack them as they approach a ground target?
empty pine
or from bf1
formal valve
Where only tanks and infantry could duke it out
empty pine
Air Assault
manic sparrow
i know this is off topic but i like that the soldiers from other countries speak their languages in battlefield games, idk why lol
formal valve
Yeet
echo glen
It's part of the authenticity so it's chill
blazing pasture
So you can buy Republique and Ruvido with Boins and CC, but can't buy Epics with CC.
Fun e DICE
formal valve
Rip
marble phoenix
CC aint carry no weight in i dont know how long now
ima say after they did the little "retro CC" thing
i didnt even care about it
i dont spend it on nothing but gear
blazing pasture
Also I wish changing the faction in the Company was quicker
marble phoenix
load times gonna be load times
it does take a sec to actually see the gear you put on
but i'll just deploy and double back to it once i know its loaded
echo glen
Sometimes your company doesn't load and needs a few secs which is annoying
formal valve
Oh shit
I just realized
We’re getting 3 scout weapons this chapter
Makes me happy
echo glen
nice
marble phoenix
Give me more melee weapons
solid hinge
pistols and gadgets pla
marble phoenix
i wouldnt be mad at new sidearms
the secondary options lacking
i want that RC land mine joint
i know its gonna be a support or recon class gadget though
balmy steeple
The Goliath could also be added for the Assault though
As another anti-tank weapon
solid hinge
They're more direct fire
Support or recon I'd guess
Support might get mortars and recon the goliath
rough crystal
yeah
molten vortex
Who TF plays scout anyway except campers
rough crystal
didnt they want to add less stuff like the goliath though
molten vortex
Scout fucking sucks ight?
solid hinge
Me bitch
rough crystal
after how many RC gadgets bf4 had
molten vortex
You cant even go ptfo on scout in bf5 they ruined the iron sight
rough crystal
also scout is great fun if you play with irons
solid hinge
Bfv launched with basically no gadgets
rough crystal
flare gun, iron sights enfield/rsc
solid hinge
I definitely want some more
solid hinge
oh shit they havent added any at all have they
molten vortex
Russia wasn't your idea
molten vortex
Cut that shit
blazing pasture
Yes it was bud
solid hinge
😏
molten vortex
hm kk mister
rough crystal
i wonder how they're gonna do rocket launchers
marble phoenix
that and a RPG or dynamtie
balmy steeple
How would you know it's op