battlefield-legacy-titles

[dense bone]

cod only has more power to individuals because its simple mods with limited players

[stoic breach]

Metas exist because they're outliers

[dense bone]

its literally a direct translation of numbers

6v6 easier to carry in than 32vs32

this isnt rocket science

[midnight nimbus]

honestly the biggest thing I'd want is just breaking assault/engineer meta in vehicle heavy modes

[idle breach]

okay guys

it seems like

[midnight nimbus]

running one class all the time on set maps is so ass

[idle breach]

I played this game so long and played so much games like

[dense bone]

thats your choice..

as a player

[midnight nimbus]

competitive metas 😞

[dense bone]

dice isnt forcing you to

[idle breach]

I am so dependant on map reading so performance of guns no longer affects me

or bfv has perfect gun balance

[stoic breach]

Well its like, here you have SARs which are very good and are limited to assault

[idle breach]

no matter how change the gun I end up getting similar K/D always

[midnight nimbus]

BFV has very good gun balance

[stoic breach]

Good at every range except SMG range

Why wouldnt you just use the meta

[dense bone]

and assault is limited to killing potential

so they get the best killing potential guns/gadgets...

they offer nothing else

[stoic breach]

Which is easier for most people than helping the team

[idle breach]

I just want to help teammates so I don't really play assault but

[dense bone]

its not easier, its what people want

[idle breach]

is it really that good balance

[dense bone]

theres nothing hard about spamming heals

people just dont want to do it

everyone wants to chase the highlight reels

[stoic breach]

I dont play as much Assault because I feel really awkward not being able to point spam like the other classes

[dense bone]

even if they shouldnt

pressing Q on teammates to heal teammates is easier, more direct way of winning, but people dont want that

[idle breach]

hmm

at least they should bring that "best healer" something screen back

should encourage people more to help teammates

[stoic breach]

Yeah BF1 did those highlights really well

[idle breach]

and anything may help people to help each other

I think my winning chance is best when I'm doing medic

[stoic breach]

BF1 really did go a long way to rewarding the individual who did play with teammates

[idle breach]

yeah and ribbons and things

[stoic breach]

Oh fuck ribbons

Holy shit

I forgot

[idle breach]

there should be a cultural differences and things but

[midnight nimbus]

BFH perk system was a good way of rewarding helping your teammates

[idle breach]

Healers are not THAT unpopular thing in games

even in FPS

[midnight nimbus]

well in most non-BFV games, healers get the most versatile guns

[stoic breach]

Well its not fun getting sniped as medic by SARs so that would explain a lack of medics

[midnight nimbus]

bc they're needed in a variety of scenarios

[idle breach]

what was that

healer killer dude in siege?

[stoic breach]

Doc

[idle breach]

oh

how the fuck I forgot that name

[stoic breach]

[idle breach]

I was just trying to tell name something like doc...

yeah anyway

as I remember doc was not really unpopular

[midnight nimbus]

well Seige approaches this from another angle

Ubisoft knows that people pick classes for their guns

[stoic breach]

Yeah the fact that medics don't have ARs means they arent good for alot of situations, and the medic revive animation goes for way too long

[idle breach]

and healers in overwatch?

[placid turtle]

Battlefield 5 is very frustrating for me. The updated graphics from bf1 and battlefront 2 have noticeably decreased performance. If I try and lower the graphics setting for it, the game looks in some cases worse than the previous mentioned games, and I still experience fps drops.
The beta ran fine, but after the game released the performance was really bad.
And my pc specs should be fine.

BF5 is a game that for me looks worse than some of the dice games that came before it, and that also has a worst performance even or lowest settings.

[midnight nimbus]

see: every BF game

so every gun in Seige is just super melty and gunplay is a non factor

[dense bone]

docs use was when someone got downed, thats a shitty mechanic to work around your usefulness

[idle breach]

yeah I agree bfv optimisation is not the best

and how can I argue with jedi grandmaster?

[dense bone]

uhh, gun is a big factor for ops but not the reason people pick them

[idle breach]

you can do the force mindbend thing

[dense bone]

especially when everything 1 shot headshots...

[stoic breach]

Some people pick ops for their guns

Doc has acog and self heal

[placid turtle]

I did not mind trick you :).

[dense bone]

some sure, but those people often are being selfish

like the assaults in bfv

[midnight nimbus]

people do pick ops for their guns, but it's not as big of a deal as they think

[idle breach]

for some reason I don't trust the name Ben anymore

[midnight nimbus]

idk, vidya needs to account for the idea that people are inherently more selfish when they can't see each other face to face

[idle breach]

yeah

and from my experience team mentality in NA and ASIA is completely different

[stoic breach]

Assault smgs so they can go die first

[idle breach]

don't really know much about EU, never played in EU like years in any game

[dense bone]

culturally theres a huge difference

[idle breach]

they should really improve the communication system

[midnight nimbus]

your decision to not help someone isn't as big when your teammates aren't in front of your face up see you not make that decision

[dense bone]

usa about individuals, asia typically about the community

[stoic breach]

I would honestly really like an SAR rebalance because they all feel like the same weapon

[idle breach]

not only the cultural differences, in ASIA there are absolutely zero communitcation

since language barrier

except premade squad

[midnight nimbus]

i think SARs have the best diversity of any gun type

[idle breach]

it's like maybe about 4 or 5 people can speak english in a server

[stoic breach]

For me theres not really enough difference

[dense bone]

the only gun balance that is needed atm is bolts

[stoic breach]

Turnip and MAS

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, this is why spotting was based

no verbal requirement

[stoic breach]

Slightly different from eachother in terms of stats

[coarse thunder]

SMGs have serious diversity issues

[midnight nimbus]

language agnostic

[idle breach]

nobody really do the VOIP since what's the point

[coarse thunder]

All the same damage model no matter the fire rate except the MP34

[stoic breach]

3D spot was just never balanced well

[dense bone]

its a stupid mechanic

[idle breach]

at least give some premade radio chat or something

[stoic breach]

Cause it wasnt balanced well

It was just spammed

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, there's designers at DICE with the right idea on spotting

[dense bone]

you just spam to see everyone then shoot the newly found person

[midnight nimbus]

just not implemented

[idle breach]

that shit was existed in CS 1.5 I remeber

[midnight nimbus]

the idea is to have spotting without the spam

[idle breach]

that was really helpful

[midnight nimbus]

plenty of competitive games have 3D spotting

[dense bone]

which is what we have now..

[idle breach]

when you got a squad of 4, all talking different language

[midnight nimbus]

ping was never supposed to replace 3D spotting

it's supposed to supplement it

[dense bone]

considering we have ping now and not 3d spotting, that sounds like a replacement

[stoic breach]

The game also never told you when you were spotted

Too much lack of information

[dense bone]

you dont need apex legends level of information for every game

[idle breach]

oh and anybody know what the hell is random blurring keep happening?

[solid hinge]

Another patch, another glitch

[dense bone]

could you imagine apex legends spotting with 32 players...

[idle breach]

oh is it a glitch

okay

[solid hinge]

Yeah happens to me very frequently

Think theres an invisible explosion going on or smth

For some reason

[coral fiber]

Probably

Happens to me when i fly

But I've stopped flying cuz of the stupid hit reg bug with planes

[stoic breach]

Well with 3D spotting you communicate with blueberries, ping you communicate with squadmates

Make it so you cant Q-spam

[solid hinge]

the blurring is weird

[coarse thunder]

Is there an equivalent of the Trench Periscope from BF1 that spots and highlights the enemy outline

[idle breach]

let's just think our soldiers are experiencing shell shock

[solid hinge]

The spotting scope

or flares

wait that highlighted outlines?

damn

[coarse thunder]

Yes

That's why you got more points if someone killed them when they were spotted

[solid hinge]

that would certainly help vs bush campers

[coral fiber]

Yeah

[stoic breach]

Yeah would

That'd be a nice recon buff right

[idle breach]

it's so frustrating that we know that they are sitting on a pile of cosmetics, even the vehicle skins and just locked them up

[stoic breach]

The ability to actually gather information

Through reconnaissance

[coarse thunder]

They should make the spotting scope do that

[idle breach]

I don't think spotting scope is a good item in base design

it reminds me of... I forgot but

well If I can aim something, I would rather shoot it.

[coarse thunder]

Only reason I used the scope was early launch since the flare was ass

[idle breach]

it should work like nerfed spotting camera or something

[main grove]

Oh I can’t be assed levelling this new MMG

[idle breach]

it's just like those stupid mechanics in some console squad based co-op singleplayer game

[main grove]

I hate playing MMGs

[idle breach]

when you can aim and order 'kill' to some NPC

yeah. I have a gun and I aim my gun to tell my NPC to shoot them

[solid hinge]

heh

those make me laugh

[idle breach]

like that stupid ghost recon wildland

[coarse thunder]

How is the new mmg anyway

[idle breach]

strangely viable gun

[coarse thunder]

I heard it has low mag capacity

[idle breach]

on paper it's shit but it's actually not terrible

[coarse thunder]

What mmg is it most similar to

[idle breach]

no mmg is similar I think

pretty weirdo gun

[coarse thunder]

Is the LS26 from last chapter good

[idle breach]

no... I don't think so

[tardy atlas]

it is actually

[idle breach]

not really terrible there are lots of better lmg I think

[coarse thunder]

It most directly compares to the KE7 and FG42

Since they both have low capacity and high fire rate

[tardy atlas]

the ls 26 doesnt have that high fire rate tho

[stoic breach]

LS26 is great

[marble phoenix]

LS26 got me slightly wanting to play support

[twin current]

which mmg is best?

[marble phoenix]

beats me

no lie, i aint swtiched from the STG 44, since i unlocked it lol

[coarse thunder]

@twin current Quite a few people like the M1922, but I have stuck with the MG42 for the cancerous hipfire accuracy and bullet storm of a 250 round, 981 rate of fire weapon

[twin current]

ok ty

[craggy estuary]

@coarse thunder it's a 30 round mag but it reloads really quick like one and a half seconds quick with the quick reload specialization

@coarse thunder also the new gun has really good hip fire accuracy

[haughty pawn]

lol,all my facepaints on axis side are gone,none to choose,another bug to add

and no game without invisible player models

[icy sluice]

Unsurprisingly, the face paints are still there for me

[topaz dome]

"You can now view the Tides of War progress directly on the pause screen!" Great, but can I see my regular assignments? a couple days ago it wouldn't show me those

[bleak cargo]

really dice??? ea?? now a brotha cant even join games anymore cuz it keeps freezing ??

[stoic breach]

[icy sluice]

You can see regular assignments

Ironically there's a bug that you need to go to the Daily Orders page and then switch back to the Special Assignments page

[bleak cargo]

[gloomy kraken]

They reduced the AT pistols damage from 100 to 98 and now it cant one shot walls anymore.

[topaz dome]

geez

[ionic brook]

I lost all facepaint on the german side

wth

[dense bone]

glitch

[ionic brook]

how can you fix it?

[dense bone]

you dont

[ionic brook]

that sucks

[haughty pawn]

safe to say this patch broke more than any other patches before

together

[topaz dome]

one step forward two steps back~ 🎶

[haughty pawn]

more like 20

[topaz dome]

or is it the other way around

[sonic rampart]

Just me or did they add the suppresion back

Like when you get shot

[indigo harness]

LS26 assignment still bugged

It still doesnt track for me

[sonic rampart]

Oof rip

[solid hinge]

Theres some weird distortion effect sometimes

[gleaming monolith]

I made a character that looks so American. I love it

[stoic breach]

Distortion on camera movement?

Forced anti-aliasing artifacts

[gleaming monolith]

I wish we could change the color of headgears

[boreal sail]

Is there something wrong with Origin?

[dense bone]

always

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[tardy atlas]

what was the best mmg in ww2 not bf5

[dense bone]

that one that goes chchtchtchtchctchctcthctchctchctcht

[solid hinge]

Browning 50. Cal

[solid hinge]

So

Why are we able to dress up as American soldiers

As brits

Like what?

[tribal cairn]

@@tardy atlas That's a bit vague, and I will answer your question, being a WW2 Weaponry Scholar. There is no best machine gun of WW2, but the most infamous machine gun was the MG-42.

[hybrid dock]

12.7mm

[tardy atlas]

hehe maschinegewehr

[tribal cairn]

In terms of Practicality and service, the .50 Browning has been with America since the 30s-40s.

[tardy atlas]

but are there weapon scholars?

[tribal cairn]

I don't understand your question? I am a scholar in studying old weaponry.

[tardy atlas]

hmm nice

[halcyon verge]

Hi, guys! :)
I wanted to get some more opinions on The Valentine Archer!

I love it but my friends hate it and I'd love to hear more sides.

[tardy atlas]

so basically the mg42 shoots the same rounds that the kar98 chambers except its shooting at 1000 rpm

[dense bone]

uhhh

like irl?

because dmg wise in game, no

[hybrid dock]

lul

[tardy atlas]

yea irl

but the mg42 is pretty fucking good in the game

[dense bone]

its wack

just like the kar

[hybrid dock]

that's why it's classified a MMG @tardy atlas

[tardy atlas]

lmao the kar98k is wack

[hybrid dock]

a full powered rifle cartridge at full auto

is a mmg

[tardy atlas]

but the mg34 isnt as good tho

@dense bone you cant shoot bolts i suppose

i think i recall you saying that

[dense bone]

huh?

[tardy atlas]

yea i do

[dense bone]

i cant shoot bolts?

[hybrid dock]

lightning bolts

like Zeus

[dense bone]

no... i cant do that...

[stoic breach]

[tardy atlas]

yea you can shoot bolt actions

[solid hinge]

MMG is actually a weird classification that doesn't really have a set definition. Some definitions say that a MMG is a full auto gun firing intermediate cartridges and also has to be belt fed.

[tardy atlas]

prove me wrong

[dense bone]

im so confused what you are saying

[tardy atlas]

an mmg is an lmg but with more weight

[solid hinge]

some omit the belt fed

[rocky verge]

Bf5 unplayable almost all the servers I see red bars

[solid hinge]

i like omitting it

[rocky verge]

[tardy atlas]

so it cannot be carried

gasmjolteon

[dense bone]

i can shoot bolt actions

[solid hinge]

yes good for you

[tardy atlas]

nyphon is a tank main

[hybrid dock]

bren gun is heavier than mmgs and it's still lmg

[dense bone]

eww

[tardy atlas]

he sits on the back of the maps sniping lil stodeh wanna be

[hybrid dock]

has nothing to do with weight

if it can be used by one person without another it's an lmg

[tardy atlas]

what about an hmg

[hybrid dock]

12.7mm

14mm

[tribal cairn]

Heavy Machine Guns, well they are what their name says: Extremely Heavy with large rounds that surpass that of a regular rifle round.

[hybrid dock]

things like M2, KORD, NSVT

[tribal cairn]

But they are at LEAST 80lbs each

[solid hinge]

yeah HMG is a lot easier. Early HMG's were just called HMG's because they were heavy. But now its basically understood to just mean to shoot a large-caliber round in automatic fire

[hybrid dock]

KVPT

they are usually stationary or mounted on vehicles

[solid hinge]

MMG as it stands is the only tricky one, its basically a bastard child of machine guns

[strong parrot]

explain this one...

[hybrid dock]

that's called a padlock

[dense bone]

wrecked

[toxic obsidian]

@strong parrot ptfo

[void jewel]

i unlock the S2-22

[neon echo]

Hi, iam looking for the BFv Easter Egg comunety, iam right here ?

[void jewel]

[toxic obsidian]

@neon echo no I can dm u a invite tho

I think

[neon echo]

can you invite me ?

how can i join ?

[dense bone]

BFEE is what you want

[toxic obsidian]

Um hold on

[neon echo]

aa ok thanks

[icy sluice]

So, I got to the last RSC mastery

[dense bone]

LOL goodluck

i still dont know a single person that has full gold model 8 or RSC legitimately

[agile sigil]

Is it worth using though?

[dense bone]

the model 8 or rsc?

[agile sigil]

Either

[dense bone]

IF youre aim is good enough you can actually do work with them

the skill floor is pretty high for them

they are close range slrs, over 50m you have to 3 shot or 2 shot with a headshot, these never one hit kill body shot

under 50m they 2 shot

IF you can land 2 shots one after the other you have a very high TTK

the problem is, if you cant land 2 shots in a row youll probably lose to just about anything else but bolts

so basically, if you can 1v1 consistently and aim is good youll do fine

[midnight nimbus]

TWO TAP

DIRT NAP

[dense bone]

you only get 2-3 kills per mag, so youre not gonna take on a lot of people at once

[midnight nimbus]

i just hate having to use aperture if i wanna use Model 8

[dense bone]

high risk decent reward gun

something like a bolt action is even higher risk, but a high reward gun

[agile sigil]

That's good to know. The Selb1906 is a fave of mine and i never really tried the others

[dense bone]

model 8 is my 2nd most used gun with 12 hours

i have roughly 140 hours of game time

i try a lot of weapons (golding various weapons was my goal)

[gray glade]

which one do you have the most with?

[dense bone]

suomi

12 hours

[gray glade]

oh dear

i have 3d 06h 26m with mg42 😄

[edgy oriole]

guys whats the best rifles for the all the classes in battelfield 4?

[solid hinge]

Fix the bugs.

[dense bone]

suomi, m1a1, and mp40 kpm got butchered by firestorm

[solid hinge]

Guys I can't wait to storm the beach of Iwo Jima as a woman!

[strong parrot]

whelp just got 5 capped on mercury conq because my pos team is actually worthless

[dense bone]

5 capped?!

ive been 4 capped, but never 5

[tardy atlas]

how am i gonna do the vehicle challenges

im horrible at tanks

[rocky verge]

Dont you love it when BF5 keeps crashing over and over agine

[strong parrot]

xbox issue?

[rocky verge]

Yep

[woven lake]

what new maps got added again?

[tribal cairn]

Don't you love it when your on Breakthrough and you hear two Max Level Stukas coming down on you?

[strong parrot]

a 30 round mmg....fucking hell why isnt it an lmg

[dense bone]

you can hear the difference between levels?

[strong parrot]

lmao lost to a p08 carbine

[dense bone]

p08 is super good

[tribal cairn]

You can if you hear a 37mm cannon being shot at your face

[rocky verge]

Just run for cover or away from where the stuka is diving down

[tribal cairn]

That's the thing, there's two of them

And 37mm cannons don't like cover

[rocky verge]

Then hope to hell your ok with dying a lot or look at and where the stuka is diving and if at you just run away from there line of fire even if it's two

[agile sigil]

shoots at Stuka, welcoming death

[icy sluice]

New mmg

[rocky verge]

New mmg good

Maybe a little more ammo

But alright

[dense bone]

purge mmgs

[solid hinge]

Why does the M28 Con Tromboncino not have a Mint stock?

[icy sluice]

Nope, someone can get out of a halftrack and kill you by the time you can switch to it and fire

[rocky verge]

@dense bone purge mmg will purge recons eazy targets

[dense bone]

ehh, most mmgs are in close quarter areas that recons are really watching imo

[rocky verge]

Well if purging the mmg

Purge the boys at rifle

[solid hinge]

The new mmg has mad accuracy

[rocky verge]

Balanced

[solid hinge]

its just still an mmg

[icy sluice]

Make it an lmg, it's light af

[solid hinge]

Then it becomes another boring lmg though

[icy sluice]

It would've been the best

[dense bone]

i actually havent played vs the boys yet

i stopped playing right before mercury came out

[rocky verge]

@dense bone you will see few of them in matches 1 shots you up to 100 meters

[dense bone]

ill doo doo on them

[strong parrot]

lmao..yay snow that blocks bullets because the model sticks out farther than it shows

[rain vapor]

@edgy oriole MPX

[solid hinge]

Is Firestorm available to play to all Battlefield V owners now?

[twin current]

yes, it has been for a few months

[solid hinge]

Right thanks

[dense bone]

...

[rain vapor]

i play now

[midnight nimbus]

iirc the reason why the MG30 isn't an LMG is bc no barrel shroud

[icy sluice]

Me pulling out the MG30
So much later that the old narrator got tired of waiting and had to hire a new one.

[solid hinge]

how many new mmgs we getting this chapter

[icy sluice]

20

[solid hinge]

only?!

how is it that we got only 2 mmgs at launch

and like what, 4 now?

[strong pecan]

@rocky verge well mine doesnt crash
I just get disconected on the spot

For some reason

[solid hinge]

but ARs were 3 at launch and we've only received 1

[dense bone]

how many guns are in game atm?

[solid hinge]

a lot

[steel agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQSr1oNMKWw

All animations for the new hand gun.

[dense bone]

dope

[neon grove]

When's the new map coming to Conquest?

[steel agate]

I like the male KaPow one the best

It sounds like that one City Wok dude from South Park

😄

[solid hinge]

Bl

How's it going my friends.

[dense bone]

mediocre

just waiting to get out of here soon

(Work)

[solid hinge]

OOOH there's going to be weapon charms

tt weapon charm for only 500 boins

EPIC tier

[formal valve]

Weapon charms are a waste

I’d rather have unit patches for our soldiers

[tribal cairn]

Unit Patches could be nice

[solid hinge]

What's a unit patch?

Pardon my ignorance.

I know what it is.

[icy sluice]

I discovered a funny glitch with the ammo crate, if you hold it long enough, your soldier will speak but will speak with literally every other voice other than the correct one

[tribal cairn]

Identity crisis, huh?

It's basically 2019 in a nutshell

Good immersion

[twin current]

lol

[solid hinge]

Bruh

How OP is the junkers 88

Shit one shots tanks

[tribal cairn]

I just saw a video on it

[solid hinge]

This guys gone 40-0 in it

Shouldnt be doing that much damage

[tribal cairn]

1000kg bomb, a couple 250kgs, and 32 50kg bombs in their loadout at the time of upload

117-0

[formal valve]

@tribal cairn a unit patch is a patch with a emblem on it that designates a unit. Etc Screaming Eagles 101st

[solid hinge]

Oh that one

Yeah back at the start that was mad OP

They had to nerf it

[prime pine]

I think they should have just nerfed the bombers themselves not every other god damn thing. Also. Good morning.

[formal valve]

They reduced it from 32 50kg to 16

[steel agate]

They reduced that months ago

[formal valve]

Yeah

[prime pine]

Never played with the bombers at launch cause i was playing with other things.

But damn.

I used to hate them a lot cause of breakthrough.

[steel agate]

yeah the Ju88A was the most broken thing in the game at the time

[formal valve]

New Easter egg in a nutshell

[prime pine]

Due to the ju 88 a they went overboard on the nerfs and eventually they brought everything back up to speed.

Cause those nerfs affected other planes like the mosquito and shit.

[steel agate]

Until the heavy bombers get introduced

then the dynamic will change and then they'll tweak everything

[formal valve]

Imagine a B17

[steel agate]

32 bomb drop for the B29 Superfortress?

[formal valve]

Imagine trying to fly a B29

[steel agate]

Atomic bomb?

[formal valve]

And a crew

They should have firebombing specs

[steel agate]

Atomic bomb unlocked after 100K squad requisition points, spawns into whoever uses the B29 😄

[formal valve]

[prime pine]

The IF and the 88A are currently the heaviest bomber.... Mk1 and 88c are definitely more direct.

[formal valve]

I mean we already use V1 rockets in combat

So I mean

[solid hinge]

Got the guy in the ju88 once

He went 77-1

When even an anti air tank cant take it down, it probably needs some tuning

The anti air tanks are pretty pish

the only way they kill anything in the air is if they're getting shot by something else

[prime pine]

Yeah in an aa tank i often get 75 - 85 damage done.

[solid hinge]

my hitreg vs planes in AA has been dodgy ever since I started playing it

[prime pine]

The 20 mm upgrade is "ok" but i think i'll use its default weapon a bit more.

[solid hinge]

sometimes it'll be just under 100, sometimes it'll be under 40

it feels really inconsistent

[prime pine]

They keep on nerfing aa's

And its really annoying.

[solid hinge]

anti air tanks cant take anything down

and I did confirm that the hitbox for planes are now infront of the actual model of the plane

either that or the tracers are wrong

[gray glade]

nah you're prolly right

[prime pine]

So we aim ahead and full damage is applied

[gray glade]

i found myself hitting a target alot even though i thought i shouldnt

when aiming ahead

[solid hinge]

and if you are behind the target you need to aim just slightly above the plane or else youll barely damage it

[tribal cairn]

So, a little bit of a dodgy situation here. I'm looking at a 10 dollar BF4 Premium Edition, but Im not sure if BF4 Is as fun as I remember it to be and the fact I'll have to work my way back up, which will be a complete grind. I'm on PS4, so I can't exactly log in with my PS3 Account either

Any input?

[solid hinge]

bf4 isnt that much of a grind

relatively speaking

v is such a miserable grind

even if you have to grind, it is worth it in my opinion

cant use vehicles without grinding

cant use a weapon viably without grinding

the vehicle grinding is the worst part

[opaque cipher]

Battlefield 4 has a bit of grind

If you’re set out to run a gun beyond its bare minimum

And sometimes the optimal setup unlocks are different than other weapon types

[solid hinge]

oh right

forgot you had to get kills to unlock attachments

it wasnt as frustrating imo

since most of the attachments werent direct upgrades

[opaque cipher]

Depends on your weapon class tbh

DMR and LMG were pretty bad

[tribal cairn]

I remember it being a bit difficult than in other games to pilot aircraft in BF4, ain't it? Not talking about Helicopters

Well, I liked the MG4 and some of the DLC LMGs

As well as the SKS

[viral lintel]

When and when are they going to implement Hardcore mode? It has been highly requested.
Firestorm isn't really hardcore mode, it's just a survival. I would love it if they just did Hardcore. I hate seeing a killcam or my opponent seeing the kill cam.

[opaque cipher]

When they want to probably

Focus rn is 5v5

[solid hinge]

remove women from battlefield v

splitting the playerbase further

[tribal cairn]

That'll piss off the entire SJW Community

And ea loves money

[solid hinge]

the kill cam doesn't even work for me half the time

I dont give a fuck lmao

If EA wants money

[strong parrot]

if by remove women you mean the crybaby complainers then yes remove them

[solid hinge]

They need to remove them

[tribal cairn]

Believe me, I'm with you, but they ain't gonna do it

[solid hinge]

i wonder who should be removing who here

[strong parrot]

EA stocks all time high

[solid hinge]

And the fucking bugs too

Invisible people

[strong parrot]

intentionally done tbh

devs just like getting shit on

[solid hinge]

At this point theres no point in removing women

Might as well just keep them in

Cant wait to storm the beach of Iwo Jima as a female

And tbh it didnt have as big of an impact as I expected at first

Likewise

So I couldnt really care less

Ig but I hate being killed by ghosts lmao

[strong parrot]

would storming iwo jima be any different from running down a street in rotterdam next to a woman?

[solid hinge]

Maybe they wont make American women

A possibility

Would cut down cosmetic development time by half

Firestorm was a waste of valuable resources tbh, we would've probably had so much stuff that we want by now

But dice likes do dig their head in the sand and not listen to the community

[strong parrot]

would have cured cancer already

[solid hinge]

Dice isnt working on firestorm

is it ea?

But I would agree that combined arms etc are a waste of time and resources

Yep

where we could have been without firestorm + war stories + combined arms

They removed frontlines and domination again

I mean some of the war stories are interesting

Like the last tiger

And tirailleur

thematically interesting, boring to play through

The others are complete shit

they're full of stealth

which is like

[prime pine]

CA was so different than the original interpretation

[solid hinge]

Last tiger was only good cuz of the characters and story

terrible

[icy sluice]

Really funny glitch

[solid hinge]

Original CA description sounded MUCH cooler

[prime pine]

Obviously they didnt have time to work on it

[solid hinge]

Im starting to think this whole “not enough time” thing is just an excuse made up by some higher up at ea/dice to excuse their behaviour

I just want some eastern front action, Okinawa, the good shit

Eastern front over yanky doody badassery adventure for sure

Can't wait for the wheelchair dlc tho

Must happen

Or a transgender elite skin

[strong parrot]

so you can get carried through matches?

[solid hinge]

Fr

I want that transgender elite amputee with a prosthetic arm and leg in a wheelchair

[amber notch]

@solid hinge same dude

[solid hinge]

With an mg42 gunning down the women storming omaha beach

[amber notch]

I cant wait for her

its going to be awesome

running around with a fake arm

[strong parrot]

her? wow assuming

[amber notch]

it will be unique and something worth the money

[solid hinge]

Yes

LGBT community: yes

[strong parrot]

unique and worth the money..sounds like bfv

[solid hinge]

Or

[amber notch]

@solid hinge do you have an issue with the LGBT community?

[solid hinge]

How about

[strong parrot]

oh my god did he just make that joke

[solid hinge]

A pride faction

WW2 LGBT EDITION

[strong parrot]

@amber notch its called being an edgelord

[solid hinge]

@amber notch yea, our soldiers get 1 day and the LGBT get a month

They are so pathetic and entitled

[amber notch]

Actually you are incorrect

there are events that the public does not see

[strong parrot]

tfw i no longer have the actually emote

[amber notch]

Just saying

[solid hinge]

Tell me I'm uneducated

Imo no group should be celebrated above others

[strong parrot]

you dont have to tell us you are stupid

[solid hinge]

Hense Im not a fan of the pride movement being forced on people who dont care about such social agendas

If you want to celebrate it sure go ahead, dont force it on others tho

Yea

[amber notch]

Here we have both Anzac day, and remembrance day, we also have the celebration of the Rats of Bruk, the public doesnt see since only service men and women participate in those events while undergoing IET at Wagga wagga

Anzac day everyone sees

[icy sluice]

Are we still attacking pride month.

[solid hinge]

yes

[amber notch]

Remembrance day the public sees

[solid hinge]

Theres the misconception

[strong parrot]

is wagga wagga what happens when you come home and your dog is excited?

[amber notch]

[solid hinge]

i'd genuinely like to see a pride month in my bigoted 3rd world country

Simply criticizing / providing an opinion IS NOT attacking or inciting violence

[prime pine]

Peanut butter

[amber notch]

@strong parrot No1 training facility RAAF

[icy sluice]

"They are so pathetic and entitled"

[solid hinge]

gay people are actually violently attacked here

Hate people who instantly jump to conclusions when you dont agree with their world view

[amber notch]

[strong parrot]

and they went with that name

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice they are

[amber notch]

yep

[icy sluice]

"WW2 LGBT EDITION"

[amber notch]

I had to literally call it No1 training centre

[solid hinge]

That's battlefield V

[amber notch]

"I arrived at No1 safe"

[icy sluice]

That's what I am mostly talking about @solid hinge

[strong parrot]

oof they forced you to spell center like that?

[solid hinge]

Still hardly an attack

[amber notch]

[solid hinge]

let's go back to discussing anal sudan and ridiculous elite ideas

[amber notch]

what a horrible world i live in

[strong parrot]

you dont have to tell me man

[solid hinge]

Anal sundan

[icy sluice]

Dabmin't, you're precious

[amber notch]

@solid hinge 29 March: Vietnam Veterans Day (All US Military Branches)
Last Monday of May: Memorial Day.
14 June: Flag Day and Army Day (United States Army)
4 August: Coast Guard Day (United States Coast Guard)

"only 1 day"

[solemn wedge]

Lets get back to #battlefield-legacy-titles topic

[solid hinge]

There should be Veteran Month tho

just saying

[amber notch]

There is

well not month

just 1 day

[solid hinge]

Not month lol

[amber notch]

you do understand that there are so many more?

right

[solid hinge]

Got this game today for £10, is that too much for it or is it cheap?

[amber notch]

there is one for fucking K9 units

Military DOGS

[solemn wedge]

@solid hinge You got a good price

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge it should be free at the state it is in now

Thats about the price you should be paying for it

Any more would be a rip off

I love the

[amber notch]

all together these days are equivalent of 2 months

[prime pine]

Bought the deluxe edition here

[solid hinge]

Conflicting statements

[prime pine]

Feelsbad

[solemn wedge]

[amber notch]

@strong parrot these uneducated people

SMH

[solid hinge]

Did you just call me uneducated

[solemn wedge]

@solid hinge @amber notch Move it to #general

[solid hinge]

Thats a micro agression you fricking bigot

I know that a lot of people didn't buy the game because EA said something like "If you don't like it don't buy it"

[icy sluice]

We live in an uneducated society.

cough Can we talk about actual Battlefield here?

[solid hinge]

I'm sorry sir

[amber notch]

@solemn wedge Ive stopped

thank you very much.

[solid hinge]

Yes

Battlefield needs fixing

[icy sluice]

The bugs are the only thing against this game tbh

[strong parrot]

ooof there is that dumb line again

[solid hinge]

Is BR good?

“Yall dumb and stupid and idiots BUT can we please change topic after ive said something to incite a response”

[amber notch]

NO

LOL

[icy sluice]

It's my favorite BR but it's still BR

Actually, Minecraft is my favorite BR... but whatever

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice what about the lack of maps,u ok with that?

[icy sluice]

Maps are good enough and thankfully there won't be the dreaded playerbase split

[amber notch]

panzerstorm

[icy sluice]

I do like Panzerstorm even as an infantry player

[solid hinge]

Current maps are ass

[icy sluice]

Only map that I slightly dislike is Hamada

[solid hinge]

Theres just no way around it

[amber notch]

How dare dice take a new approach on their beloved franchise

[solid hinge]

How big are the maps in Grand Operations or whatever they're called?

[amber notch]

how dare they

[solid hinge]

Even the best maps would be bad maps in other bf games

[icy sluice]

Ironically, Arras is good as a PTFO Recon with an SLR and Bayonet

Assignments are also too difficult for like 90% of the playerbase

I don't think anyone has ever fully gilded an SLR

[solid hinge]

Unpopular Opinion: Didn't like BF4 but liked BF1

[icy sluice]

BF4 was meh, 1 played better

[amber notch]

hardline was better

[icy sluice]

1 had better maps than 4.

[solid hinge]

Eh

Liked hardline too

[icy sluice]

Hardline was great but had some things that didn't hit the spot

[opaque cipher]

Hardline best

Shit balance though

[solid hinge]

BF4 maps were at least very different from one another

[amber notch]

Hey look

a mod that isnt appearing offline

[icy sluice]

Yeah the balance was shit but the game was nice

[amber notch]

damn

[solid hinge]

I liked placing C4 on roads in Hardline

[amber notch]

The balance wasnt the issue tbh

[icy sluice]

I like that you can place an ammo or a health crate on a tank turret in V now

[amber notch]

"you drive around in a car for 30 minutes doing laps of the map"

[icy sluice]

And no one will care too

I see videos of Hardline where it's just driving and driving, no one is taking you out

[opaque cipher]

Who will get a use out of it

Kek

[amber notch]

thats how i got the class weapons

idgaf what you people say

[solid hinge]

Except me, ruining the fun as usual, I place C4 in 3 parts and monitor them

[amber notch]

i wanted that FMG

[solid hinge]

Got me a good few kills tbf

[icy sluice]

I would love another Cops and Robbers game tbh

[amber notch]

yeah

its called tarkov

[icy sluice]

But it needs some kind of over the top goodness to be as good as an urban combat game

[opaque cipher]

HCAR

💦

[solid hinge]

I liked uhhh

[icy sluice]

Like, can we get Jets in this?

Tanks?

[opaque cipher]

Nah

[amber notch]

with what?

cops and robbers?

[icy sluice]

Hardline 2

[amber notch]

NO WTF

[solid hinge]

That alt version of Siege of Shanghai in Hardline

[icy sluice]

Siege is honestly my least favorite map in all of Battlefield

[solid hinge]

Yeah but Hardline had a kinda city map

[amber notch]

Love how on release of BF4, it was so shit

now everyone sucks it off

[solid hinge]

Where it was pretty fun to drive around

[amber notch]

[solid hinge]

BF4 is honestly worse than 3 imo

[icy sluice]

@amber notch What do you mean? It had a flawless release!

[opaque cipher]

Siege is good because heli farm

Everyone sucks off pilots

[amber notch]

@icy sluice https://youtu.be/MknLARblrDQ?t=29

[solid hinge]

Lul

[analog mist]

I stopped caring about 4 when the SRAW was ruined.

[solid hinge]

I guess more people here agree that BF4 was kinda bad

[quiet ingot]

Uhh

Aside from spread it was fine

[icy sluice]

@amber notch You and I both know I am joking

[quiet ingot]

Siege, resort are both good maps

I mostly play tdm tho

[solid hinge]

Not saying it was bad in terms of normal games

But in terms of Battlefield it's one of my worst

[quiet ingot]

Once you play operations in bf1 it’s hard to go back to bf4 conquest

[solid hinge]

Yeah I didn't like conquest

[quiet ingot]

And honestly bf2, bf3 and 2142 are preposterously overrated

[opaque cipher]

2142 is one of its kind

Just like Hardline

[icy sluice]

In order to hit your targets in BF2, you needed to be completely stationary and even then the spread was so much you were probably still not going to hit your target

[forest eagle]

Did they seriously add a finger gun to BFV

[solid hinge]

New invisible glitch

Really fun

Also bf1 not good

[quiet ingot]

Compared to...?

What, BF4, which community hated at launch?

Or BF3, which had a COD TTK and super OP weapons at launch?

[solid hinge]

Nah just not fun gunplay. Maps were better than bfv tho

Bf1 in general

Bfv is a step in the right direction but bf4 is what they need to strive for

Also fixing this inivible glitch

[quiet ingot]

In terms of the gunplay...?

Like what specifically about it

[trail lily]

EA need to strive to not scam little kids

That is basicly it

[quiet ingot]

Uhhh

K

[solid hinge]

I refuse to play until they fix that invisible shit lol

[icy sluice]

Invisible shit should stop happening when they're close to you

[solid hinge]

Seige had this glitch too

But seige is a proper competitive game

Can we ban this guy

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge You really think a discord server with over 46k people in it would allow you to ping everyone?

If you're looking for people to play with, go to #lfg-pc

[potent harness]

is the invisible thing a hack or periodic glitch?

[icy sluice]

It's a rendering glitch

[amber notch]

[potent harness]

so yeah a glitch. not like whoever's invisible is hacking or whatever yeah?

[icy sluice]

It's also on consoles and consoles have not been cracked for hacking tools or whatever

Doesn't stop people from accusing me of hacking tho

[trail lily]

Rendering glitches in EA games in 2019? Who would've thought.

With all the money they get from kids, they should have resources to fix it, no?

[icy sluice]

I mean, you could say the same with Activision and Ubisoft

in CoD WWII, there still exists a glitch where you can never respawn and then get kicked for being AFK because of that.

[trail lily]

Yeah, I agree

But that doesn't mean you can just disregard EA

Because other companies does the same

That just means they are just as scummy

[strong parrot]

ea is just bad..these are the facts

[trail lily]

EA have done good things

I will never forget most wanted

Never.

Great game

[strong parrot]

[trail lily]

It's not bait

I genuinely like most wanted and carbon series, underground, etc.

[solid hinge]

Thanks

[trail lily]

U guys suffering with hackers too in battlefield?

It was really bad in battlefront early on.

Almost a hacker in every lobby

[steel agate]

I wish we had server mods like we have mods on this Discord

Not until RSPs will we have admins to kick

[fathom pebble]

@steel agate bad idea lol

[steel agate]

abuse and wrongful bans?

[fathom pebble]

yep

mostly if its community run

maybe if it was actual employees

[steel agate]

yes I mean actual employees

[fathom pebble]

Possible but as said wouldnt work

[steel agate]

EA CM

[fathom pebble]

compating the ammount of players adn servers

and also the time people have to go server in server

and the response time

[steel agate]

yeah but it'll be like a random "audit"

[fathom pebble]

better just have a bot for that :p

[steel agate]

not every single server but a random pool of them

[fathom pebble]

There's 0 point in the end

[steel agate]

we have a program to kick hackers, but it's not up to par right now

[fathom pebble]

not really how it works

it doesnt kick hackers

if its triggered bans you on the spot

[steel agate]

EA community managers randomly "auditing" servers for hackers would be good

[fathom pebble]

the thing is people give themselfs the challange of bypassing it

[steel agate]

yeah I mean ban for X time

[fathom pebble]

and consider human error is a thing

[steel agate]

yes which is why we have the program lol

nothing's perfect

[fathom pebble]

thats why its better not have community managers behind it sicne thats not their job

[steel agate]

I'm looking for some sort of redundancy to help the issue

[fathom pebble]

if you meant more of a anti cheat analystic team

that exists

[steel agate]

new Community Managers I mean

new EA server community managers

[fathom pebble]

But community managers are for community interaction

and you talking about cheating/hacking

[steel agate]

like there are CMs for Reddit, for answers.ea, battlefield.com, etc.

each one has unique CMs

[fathom pebble]

you mean forum mods :p

[steel agate]

sure but they work for EA

[proud knot]

I JUST FOUND OUT UR MOMS BLOOD TYPE IS NUTELLA

[fathom pebble]

I mean DICE has a anti cheat division

[proud knot]

[steel agate]

but the anti-cheat needs a lot of improvement

[proud knot]

i have no life

[fathom pebble]

yeh

thats not how it works

technically I have done couple peaking on the anti cheat

[steel agate]

and until then, we need a human touch

[fathom pebble]

its funny how they patched alot of exploits that now are impossible

thing is

[proud knot]

i have a question

[fathom pebble]

you find a way to fix your wall

[proud knot]

what is your fav gun

[fathom pebble]

someone loves the challange to try break it again

[steel agate]

but it makes it harder for most people

[fathom pebble]

its a simple state machine

[proud knot]

ok good chat

[steel agate]

dissuade people who aren't really into hacking/cheating

by making it harder at least

that's probably most of them

[fathom pebble]

develop/patch anti cheat -> someone breaks it by exploring what it triggers it and doesnt -> people abuse that small gap -> anti cheat team is aware and patches it -> back to the start

[steel agate]

That's part of QA's job too

[fathom pebble]

most people don't really want to play and cheat. Alot of programmers and geeks love to check what it can and can't do

[steel agate]

they break the game

[fathom pebble]

break =/= anti cheat exploiting

[steel agate]

yes I know, it's only a part of what they do

it's not like they fix it

they report it

[fathom pebble]

because in BF1 there was statistics supposed to be impossible to have and only by hacking that would trigger the anti cheat

and these were broken to the point actual innocent players got banned

[steel agate]

bad anti cheat mechanism then?

[fathom pebble]

QA doesnt work with anti-cheat they just afaik test a version of the game the game that will be released in the near future

not bad, its a legit way to actually combat cheaters

[steel agate]

QA checks for glitches, exploits, etc.

[fathom pebble]

but the thing is they set the values on a limit that they thought was impossible

[steel agate]

So up the value?

lol

[fathom pebble]

I mean Iam talking about values

[steel agate]

it's more complicated than I'm making it seem, I know

[fathom pebble]

for example in BF1 if you reach an insane impossible K/D would do that

would trigger and you would get banned

[steel agate]

yeah I remember that

it was more strict in BF1 than in BFV

[fathom pebble]

although when there was the fighter plane and those dark things and with planes

people were getting insane K/D's of ration on the 30+ k/d a game

which in theory its sorta impossible

[steel agate]

In BFV, I'm not sure it's even checking K/D ratio

Or even maximum kill value

I saw someone get about 200 kills or so in conquest

[fathom pebble]

kill values arent capped

[steel agate]

yeah that's what I'm saying

[fathom pebble]

I mean maybe the anti-cheat it self can tag you aand track your stats

[steel agate]

they don't check max kill numbers

[fathom pebble]

thats possible

they do check Score/min and K/D

they did that in BF1 and was a mistake

:p

most likely they increased to actual impossible human skill values

[steel agate]

I mean, if you look at sites like BattlefieldTracker.com, the easiest thing to do is to take a look at the top 100 K/D and kick most/all of them

that'll be a lot of them

then there are those who are being more discreet

they are the tricky ones

[fathom pebble]

I mean at this point I think they ditched that

and aside they didnt had a client side anti cheat in BF1 until couple months before the live service ended

means alot of client side exploiting was done

in BFV that came with release

some are still possible through SP lol

[steel agate]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bfv/leaderboards/stats/all/KdRatio?page=1

Some of those guys aren't hackers though

big ox is legit and only pilots

[fathom pebble]

yeh thats why I said

they most liekly ditched the value trigger on it

so the mistake from BF1 wouldnt repeat

[steel agate]

but they should look at that top 100, and get EA staff to manually look at their games

spectate

[quiet ingot]

are we allowed to ask about individual players here or is that witchhunting?

[steel agate]

at least just those guys

[fathom pebble]

spectate isnt good

[quiet ingot]

there is one dude in particular ive seen a few times, kinda curious

[fathom pebble]

I think spectate rate is 30hz not sure

[solid hinge]

Does it usually take a couple years to find a game of Firestorm?

[steel agate]

@quiet ingot idk I didn't speculate on any specific player being a hacker

[strong parrot]

!!6

fuck it cant be bothered to fix that one

[fathom pebble]

if you want examples. Spectating in csgo is 30hz and the servers run at 60hz and things that happen between spectator mode and you playing in the live round can be mistaken alot

there's better ways to understand how someone cheats

then "spectating"

[steel agate]

BFV spectating is not the same hz as the servers?

[fathom pebble]

think so. But iam not 100% sure atm

[steel agate]

I mean, I usually spectate and I can tell hackers right away

[fathom pebble]

I mean from the tens of hours I have spectating and doing screenshot

I do remember sometimes being little slopy

but as I said spectating isnt ideal

[amber notch]

@strong parrot

!!r6

[fathom pebble]

because there's those 1% players who are good

and they have insane reactions

[strong parrot]

@amber notch your name is white why didnt that work?

[fathom pebble]

and normally they're targetted easly

[steel agate]

There are also those players using mouse macros/scripts to control recoil

[fathom pebble]

unless its a obvious guy ofc

[amber notch]

No regular

[steel agate]

and mouse macros are considered as cheating

[fathom pebble]

they arent considered

[amber notch]

They didnt give any reason as to why it was removed, just removed it

[fathom pebble]

they are agaisnt EA's ToS

[strong parrot]

we know why

[steel agate]

because it's cheating lol

[wild jacinth]

theres still broad daylight in the evening where i am at and firestorm put me in an EU server

[fathom pebble]

@steel agate would call unfair advantage

[steel agate]

.....

lol

it's like that one uber low graphics tweak

do you remember?

you can see enemies clearly because the graphics were made terribad

[fathom pebble]

that was with Nvidia drivers was basically manipulating it

[steel agate]

it was like a GPU tweak

yeah

that's cheating too

[strong parrot]

where do you come up with these thoughts

[fathom pebble]

but yes there's still in the game ways to not render thing at certain range if you set them to low since BF3 and these is basically a legal unfair advantage within the game

[amber notch]

[fathom pebble]

and I do use it

[steel agate]

basically they won't allow it in any sort of competitive esports setting (not that there is one for BFV)

[fathom pebble]

like walls don't render at certain meters of distance and you can see players behind them

[steel agate]

You use what @fathom pebble ?

[fathom pebble]

but not kill them

[steel agate]

specifically

[fathom pebble]

yeh just low certain options in the game settings

[steel mirage]

Is there something wrong with the axis painting? No vehicles paint, or facial paint, allies is ok.

[steel agate]

I have everything low in game settings lol

[fathom pebble]

more FPS and advantage

[steel agate]

but that's readily available to everyone

[fathom pebble]

doesnt really work on small maps

does work on medium/big maps

[steel agate]

and made ready to work, whereas that one nvidia tweak is not intended for use

[fathom pebble]

normally sheets of metal, certain house walls

yeh that was literally cheating

[steel agate]

then there's that body poking through the walls glitch

[fathom pebble]

manipulating the drivers