battlefield-legacy-titles

[oak vapor]

piat is way off the mark

[lilac edge]

the sight is pretty much useless

[solid hinge]

The mortar sight is accurate if you're shooting to somewhere level with you

[lilac edge]

I have better luck blind firing it

[oak vapor]

bc is a older game but mp side its about the same

[solid hinge]

If they're higher or lower you have to make manual adjustments

[lilac edge]

@solid hinge but what bf map is even remotely level 🤔

[oak vapor]

i like how ppl jus hip fire the piat n hit u every time from any range lol

hmmmm mayb thats a cheat in action

[lilac edge]

I hipfired a piat yesterday and shot down a bf109

[solid hinge]

Sometimes you get flat planes

[lilac edge]

I was proud of that

[solid hinge]

Plains?

Like most of hamada

Learning the drop isnt toooo hard either

[oak vapor]

like the m30 drillin its op as hell n with a cheat using it ur screwed

[lilac edge]

if you are in a flat part of hamada, you're prob better off firing your primary imo. I use the piat for hitting people behind walls in the castle

[oak vapor]

i wish there was a anti cheat system n u saw the cheats gettin banned like u did in bf3/4 pbbans / fairfight

[lilac edge]

no u dont

that chat announcement is so annoying

[oak vapor]

i do jus for that

[solid hinge]

The mortar sight can help you figure out rough estimates

[oak vapor]

i hide the in game chat cos its toxic , but the bans should be separate from that so u see it

[solid hinge]

Its useful

[lilac edge]

the combination of the anticheat chat spam and AdKats chat spam makes it near impossible to use chat in bf4

[oak vapor]

atleast i know the anti cheat is working if u see it

[lilac edge]

@solid hinge idk I learned the drop before I even tried to use the sight, and found that the sight was pretty much useless after you've learned the drop

[oak vapor]

the amount of cheats in bf1/v is horrid and nothing seems to be done about them players

like cod anti cheat system, its does not exists

[solid hinge]

It doesnt deserve to be any better!!

[lilac edge]

idk why there wasn't a regular mortar, in bf5

[oak vapor]

anyways happy gaming all, the dl is done n updated, time to play cya l8rz n thx 4 the chat

[lilac edge]

origin downloads are always so slow

only getting 6MBps but I have 13+MBps down

not to mention the weird verification thing it does beforehand

[solid hinge]

Did anyone see thr vehicle skins before they went

Was there new plane skins?

[steel agate]

Yeah I'd like to see modern, historic, modern, historic, etc.
BC3, BF Korean War, BC4, BF Vietnam War, BC5, etc.

I saw the skins @solid hinge

[lilac edge]

korean war BF would be cool

[orchid shore]

I don't think there were no new plane skins

[solid hinge]

Any of them good?

[orchid shore]

but I did saw the new tank skins

[steel agate]

There were a couple with like a white mesh pattern overlaid on a camo

[solid hinge]

There were plane skins

[steel agate]

I bought one of the skins

I got to keep it

There's a square and hexagon white "mesh" pattern

[supple fiber]

When will the next update for BFV come out? Is there a date yet?

[steel agate]

with camo underneath

[icy sluice]

An update just came out

[steel agate]

next update is tomorrow

tomorrow

[supple fiber]

Well alrighty

[steel agate]

FS fix coming tomorrow lol

[supple fiber]

Thank you very much

[steel agate]

np

[lilac edge]

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-mine
According to German documentation, the S-mine was lethal within 20 meters (66 ft) and could inflict casualties within 100 meters (330 ft). American training manuals warned of casualties at up to 140 meters (460 ft)."

these nerfs are a little lacking in terms of historical accuracy lol

[solid hinge]

One hundred and FORTY

I cant even see that far

[stoic breach]

Damb

[solid hinge]

These things have a longer kill range than the boys does

[stoic breach]

That is wacky

I think S mines are a bit different

To AP mines

[lilac edge]

no

[stoic breach]

They didnt nerf S mines in BFV though

They're balanced differently to AP mines

[sudden tendon]

what is with firestorm ?

[visual blade]

Lol

[sudden tendon]

😩

[midnight nimbus]

@stoic breach AP mines = S mines

[stoic breach]

Alright fuck

Whatever then, I dont really use either

[solid hinge]

heh

The mines are less fun

[stoic breach]

They should probably be a bit more lethal now that you can outrun the blast radius

[solid hinge]

I think you're less likely to outrun it than before

They buffed the range

gotta hit the deck

[stoic breach]

It just doesn't do enough, they might have nerfed them a bit too much

[lilac edge]

nerfing 3 factors at once was too much

[solid hinge]

They seem to be very much cutting down on one hit kill weapons

well

gadgets

[stoic breach]

Dont say Boys

[lilac edge]

*3 factors of one weapoin

[solid hinge]

Boys got a h*cking buff

[lilac edge]

can you unlock the boys normally yet

I never did the missions

[solid hinge]

Yeah it's been out for ages

[stoic breach]

It should be buffed further, the OHK is the only thing stopping the Boys from being a completely unusable weapon

[radiant seal]

This game and historical accuracy

[stoic breach]

Like Boys AT ADS without bipod but with rainbow scope

[lilac edge]

getting nailed by a 20mm should destroy you from any range..

[stoic breach]

Dicepls just balance weapons

[soft storm]

Y’all complaining about the boys

[stoic breach]

I'm complaining as a Boys user

[soft storm]

Load up ravenfield, get the Boys AT rifle mod

And then come back to me

[lilac edge]

what if you could fire the boys while standing but it just knocked you down after firing

[stoic breach]

Thats shit

That would make people still camp

[radiant seal]

Bring back bf3 usas-12 with frag rounds. That will balance everything

[stoic breach]

Shotguns in BFV need to be buffed as well

And medics

And MMGs

[radiant seal]

Just in time for metro 1944

[stoic breach]

Give MMGs the ability to ADS to stop people from being forced to camp

Make them compelling suppressive weapons that fair better from magdumping and absolutely cannot burst fire

But can ADS

[midnight nimbus]

^ basically BF1 MGs

[stoic breach]

Yeah exactly

BF1 MGs didnt feel restrictive

I enjoyed using weapons like the Perino and stuff

And with BFV adding more MMGs that are basically balanced the same, theres no variety

[icy sluice]

There are so many fucking V-1s in the Stairway Easter Egg

[gray glade]

v1 models but small explosion

and you can destroy them

[soft storm]

They couldn’t get Led Zeppelin I’m guessin?

I figured, they don’t like allowing their songs in stuff

Guess I’ll just have to play it in the background

[lilac edge]

lol you try licensing a led zeppelin song

[topaz dome]

Thor movies - Immigrant Song

[lilac edge]

their record label will have you paying out the ass

" Back in 2012, The Los Angeles Times ran a piece on the hoops the band would make filmmakers jump through to use one of their songs in a film. According to the article, the license fee for a Zeppelin song often dips into the seven-figure range;"

thats a few million to license one song

when does the new trial by fire season start?

I want some new unlocks

[solid hinge]

Thursday

[prime pine]

Uh

New ToW (DTO) starts at thursday in 10 AM UTC.

It should start at 10 AM UTC.... Based on track record.

[solid hinge]

When you're downloading the new update but it's stuck on "Preparing"

[coral fiber]

Welp i found a plane damage bug it seems like i am doing damage but the UI isn't showing it

[charred heron]

200% unexcited for future BFV updates since Dice is somehow the only western studio that make their current game worse with every patch

[coral fiber]

Ehh

[charred heron]

The only other studio coming close would be Wargaming

ngl

[coral fiber]

Still looking forward to BFV

But ehh

[solid hinge]

according to levelcap this patch is MASSIVE

MASSIVE

[coral fiber]

Lol

[charred heron]

The patch is MASSIVE trash

[coral fiber]

MASSIVE

[solid hinge]

i dont wanna watch the vid

[gray glade]

im just happy the sound bug is gone

[solid hinge]

tldr version?

[gray glade]

YAY

[charred heron]

Patch is trash

[coral fiber]

Honestly

[gray glade]

i like the patch

tbf

[solid hinge]

besides fixing bugs that they added in last patch and ap mine nerfs

[coral fiber]

I look stupid holding the crate

[gray glade]

also you can choose any vehicle you have now

not just 3

[solid hinge]

ok

[coral fiber]

I kinda like/hate that

[solid hinge]

now that is massive

[gray glade]

also before dice removed them i got a bunch of new vehicle skins for CC 😄

[charred heron]

Content
That is what the game needs
Here take this map we ripped from the SP because the map designers did awful work with the originally going-to-be-released maps

[coral fiber]

I was hoping that map when i played in SP would be a multiplayer map

[solid hinge]

im just glad we're getting 1 fucking map that isn't infantry based

[charred heron]

Here, take those weapons that nearly have identical stats. Stop acting so entitled, this is true content

[solid hinge]

jesus as if the base game wasnt already infantry based enough

[coral fiber]

Really excited for al sundan

[solid hinge]

did they improve performance

or rebalance vehicles?

[coral fiber]

Sort of

[charred heron]

The base game maps are garbage because they're all made for Breakthrough/GOs first, the rest comes below the toilet at Dice HQ

[solid hinge]

they're not even fun on those modes lol

[coral fiber]

Ik

Rush needs to come back

[solid hinge]

NAH MANE

1 week only

[charred heron]

Also what baffles me is that the performance of the game gets worse with every single patch

How do you even achieve that?

[solid hinge]

by not testing your patches

[coral fiber]

Honestly CTE needs to make a comeback in V

[stoic breach]

Why

[midnight nimbus]

no pls

CTE was useless

the community ruined it

[coral fiber]

Ehh true

[charred heron]

trusting the community with testing patches

[midnight nimbus]

people just used it for early access

didn't give any useful feedback

[charred heron]

I wouldn't even give most of the community the base game

[coral fiber]

Ok i stand corrected

[midnight nimbus]

I mean some people gave good feedback in BF4

[coral fiber]

Lol

[midnight nimbus]

not by BF1, It was useless

ngl I've heard some really shit opinions by some of the best BF players out there

[solid hinge]

uhhhh

[charred heron]

We remove the CTE and save money for decent playtesters

[solid hinge]

they broke firestorm?

[coral fiber]

Yes

[solid hinge]

jesus it keeps GETTING WORSE

[midnight nimbus]

but yeah, I'd rather trust good players

[charred heron]

I love how they managed to break facepaints for male characters with this patch

That's Bethesda levels of incompetence

[coral fiber]

Lmao

[solid hinge]

what did they break

[coral fiber]

True

[gray glade]

the problem i had with CTE was that the community playtested new content, so either you got "spoilers" or had to intentionally ignore videos and stuff from youtubers

cuz they all showed new stuff and everyone saw stuff before release

[charred heron]

Makes me think that all the decent devs just left Dice long ago and now they have to cope with cheap freelancers and university dropouts

Because most bugs after a patch shouldn't exist in the first place

[solid hinge]

how did they break the facepaint

[charred heron]

@solid hinge You can't apply any facepaint on male characters because the options don't load

[solid hinge]

oh

[charred heron]

So it's always at "Default" and you can't change it since you don't get other options

[solid hinge]

i was hoping it deformed their face or something

[midnight nimbus]

CTE would be useful for like testing maps ig

and maybe vehicles

[topaz dome]

[midnight nimbus]

no point of them testing guns with it

[charred heron]

Yeah, don't trust this community in giving good feedback

[coral fiber]

Lol

[charred heron]

As you said, most people used it for early access and to make videos for their trashy YT channels

[midnight nimbus]

i don't mind the YouTubers

[charred heron]

THIS gun is BROKEN???!??!?

[midnight nimbus]

YTers actually gave some of the best CTE feedback

[solid hinge]

did they actually add tank body customization

or just new skins for the tanks

[grim locust]

[topaz dome]

:Origin: 10.18 GB
:playstation: - 7.16 GB
:Xbox2: - 5.36 GB

[coral fiber]

Hehehehe

[grim locust]

Heil Xbox

[topaz dome]

#game-news

or you haven't plalyed for a long while

[grim locust]

Heil

[solid hinge]

i havent played in months

[topaz dome]

31.84GB preparing on pc is not the download size

[midnight nimbus]

the problem with CTE is that it just devolved into people using it to not give feedback

[solid hinge]

and i still wont because apparently performance is even worse

[midnight nimbus]

or even worse, give useless feedback

not the YTers at all

[charred heron]

Again, still baffles me that the performance tends to decrease

10/10 testing here

[midnight nimbus]

if anything, YTers hyping up future content is good

[coral fiber]

I haven't experienced any stuttering, etc yet

[solid hinge]

performance was already horrible for me

so i dont think i'll be able to stomach playing after this patch

[charred heron]

Although, i see way less AP mines being used now

That's a somewhat good thing i guess

[coral fiber]

Yeah good riddance

[charred heron]

[solid hinge]

about time

fuck those things

no u

[coral fiber]

Yeah no u

[charred heron]

Maybe one day the PIAT will do less damage against Infantry and will be more useable against tanks

[midnight nimbus]

can't wait to use buffed radius mines

[solid hinge]

what?

piat is already good against tanks

hard to use but a direct hit does a lot

[midnight nimbus]

> piat is already good against tanks
yeah, maybe if you suck at tanking

[charred heron]

Give it less damage against Infantry and a slightly tweaked arc

Would make it somewhat balanced

[midnight nimbus]

it already got nerfed against infy

[charred heron]

Imo

Not enough for me

[midnight nimbus]

DICE power draining all of the little fun left in the game smh

[dusky badge]

I managed to play 1 round of firestorm before it broke, the weapok skins feature is great

[charred heron]

On the other hand, the StG 1-5 is still the best Assault option in the game

So meh

[midnight nimbus]

at least vehicles weren't nerfed

also

SG 1-5 sucks

[dusky badge]

Also icon visibility is so much better

didn’t get to see the dome, though :(

[orchid shore]

StG 1-5 recoil is kinda hard to control

[dusky badge]

Stg1-5 is good if you can control the recoil

[midnight nimbus]

virgin SG 1-5
chad Turner SMLE

[orchid shore]

Back then it was pretty powerful

[stoic breach]

StG 1-5 just has a big mag and thats it

[dusky badge]

The virgin semi auto rifles

[stoic breach]

Turner SMLE I don't find fun

[midnight nimbus]

SARs are kinda unsatisfying to use

[stoic breach]

Virgin Turner vs Chad AGm

[charred heron]

Gewehr 43

[midnight nimbus]

but they melt people so fast

[charred heron]

[dusky badge]

the only fun sar is the m1a1

[midnight nimbus]

AG m/42 is kinda memey tbh

too niche

[orchid shore]

Gewehr 43 was PRETTY powerful at launch

[charred heron]

The M1907 SL isn't that bad either, comes with a bayonet, huge plus

[dusky badge]

The g43 was op lmao

[orchid shore]

M1970 too

[stoic breach]

AGm is great cause nobody uses it

[midnight nimbus]

only maps where i would want to use it are ones where I went up in a tank anyways

[orchid shore]

you know what

[charred heron]

@midnight nimbus Kinda love the AGm/42

[stoic breach]

And it has no damage dropoff

[orchid shore]

BFV launch guns were BROKEN af at launch

[charred heron]

It's pretty decent

[orchid shore]

M1907 SL, STG-44, Gewher-43 were way to go

[charred heron]

Did you ever see the glory of the Laser-like StG44 in the Beta?

[orchid shore]

StG 1-5 too

[charred heron]

Hilariously broken

[midnight nimbus]

G43 is pretty much untouched since launch

lol

also beta StG was fine

[orchid shore]

what you talking about

[midnight nimbus]

beta Turner was incredible

[orchid shore]

G43 was nerfed to its recoil and damage

[charred heron]

Beta StG was borked

[stoic breach]

Why is detachable mag and hipfire both available at the same time for the Gewehr 43

[midnight nimbus]

G43 has same damage since launch

and recoil is still ez

[stoic breach]

Its so ridiculously easy to use that its just boring

[charred heron]

@stoic breach Because the people who made the perks also got an F in Game Design

[solid hinge]

Has the performance really decreased?

[midnight nimbus]

well, same damage for all intents and purposes

[stoic breach]

Yeah basically

[solid hinge]

the specs could use reworking

[orchid shore]

lol

[midnight nimbus]

it doesn't chunk you for 90 damage with two shots in CQB anymore

[charred heron]

@solid hinge Yes

[midnight nimbus]

but not like 80 damage chunk is much worse

[stoic breach]

Gewehr 43 could be a 3-3BTK for all I care but its way too easy to control for what it does

[solid hinge]

Detachable mag is better like 99% of the time

[midnight nimbus]

I think easy to use guns are fine

[stoic breach]

Why would you not use detachable mag

[solid hinge]

masochism

[stoic breach]

Its just annoying as fuck

[midnight nimbus]

accessibility is important

[charred heron]

Also, when do we finally get an explonation to the reason that an enemy can soak 120+ dmg like a boss enemy and still has 3/4 of his health bar while you die?

[midnight nimbus]

bc damage reports are broken

lol

[stoic breach]

Because not only is it easy to use, but it isnt bad at anything

[glossy locust]

omg they finally nerfed the frickin piat

thank the heavens

[midnight nimbus]

none of the SARs are bad at anything

epic

[stoic breach]

Yeah I know

[solid hinge]

i hope you all know that battlefield and origin suck, they banned me for no reason.

[glossy locust]

i don't get their hesistance to nerf SARS into the ground

[stoic breach]

They're more than accessible, cause competent players just go ape with them

[charred heron]

The Ribeyrolles is actually fun to use

[midnight nimbus]

I'm all for max ease of use

[solid hinge]

ribey based

[midnight nimbus]

that's what made CoD a juggernaut with a massive player base

easy for new players to get into

bigly recoil does nothing for the skill ceiling

[stoic breach]

But they're like the best weapon type thats also easy to use

[solid hinge]

tfw plebs hate titanfall because 3d movement

[glossy locust]

SARS effectively break class balance entirely and have since launch

[stoic breach]

So theres no reason not to use them

[solid hinge]

screw EA

[midnight nimbus]

just buff automatics

ez

[stoic breach]

Buff everything

Automatics, SLRs, bolts

[solid hinge]

delete all SARs other than the selb 1916

[midnight nimbus]

automatics deserve the buffs

[stoic breach]

Give SMG to assault and AR to medics

As well

[glossy locust]

yeah automatics should be better than sars under 20 m

[charred heron]

@solid hinge How dare you to like wallrunning, working sliding mechanics, double jumps, decent axis views and verticality?

[stoic breach]

Buff medic revive speed

[arctic orchid]

@charred heron I love it, recently picked it up again and I am so happy I did

[midnight nimbus]

well autos are better than SARs up close

[stoic breach]

You forget bunnyhopping

[solid hinge]

hnngh titanfall

[full birch]

anyone else having this issue? i updated bfv and lost all my face paints.

[solid hinge]

that's a known problem

[stoic breach]

Autos are only better than SARs up close

[midnight nimbus]

too bad BFV isn't a game that favors CQB much

[charred heron]

@full birch Known issue, only happens on male characters

[stoic breach]

No

[full birch]

how to fix?

[charred heron]

Wait for the fix

[full birch]

k

thx

[charred heron]

[solid hinge]

play girl characters

[full birch]

no.

lol

thx

[midnight nimbus]

girl characters only gang @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

they have the sweetest bayonet noises

[midnight nimbus]

I would pay $5 to force my enemies to listen to the woman scream at max volume every time i killed them

[prime pine]

Oh ayla. You seen the black churchill mkvii?

[midnight nimbus]

i would play so much BFV

[solid hinge]

i play as women for every class

except for support

[full birch]

the girl screaming is to much.

[stoic breach]

Lol

[glossy locust]

i mean tmie after time spec a match, the person with the highest kill to death is using a gwehr and piats

[stoic breach]

Dicepls add male screaming

[solid hinge]

wtf I wanna see black camo

[glossy locust]

eveyr singel time

[prime pine]

I set hana as my support.

[midnight nimbus]

for $10, it should override Windows volume settings and max it out

this is the elite I would pay for

[charred heron]

Can't wait for Schattenwolf tbh

[solid hinge]

i have the ginger girl as my medic so people have to stare into her eyes when I heal them

[prime pine]

If anyone sees a black churchill on xbox one automatically assume its me!

[charred heron]

Finally a good Medic character

[prime pine]

Ahahaha

[charred heron]

@solid hinge You're supposed to revive them, not stealing their souls

[arctic orchid]

I can counter SAR's pretty easy with Ribey

[solid hinge]

slurp

[prime pine]

I rush people with fg42... Its too good.

[solid hinge]

Ribey cant quite magdump like it used to

Used to feel like a full auto m1a1

[midnight nimbus]

tfw i can't get back to BF1 levels of hideous semi auto accuracy bc i can't see anything

[arctic orchid]

I can get at least 3 people with one mag

Which is nice

on Close/medium range

[solid hinge]

It's still my favourite auto other than the m1907

[midnight nimbus]

M1907 is so crispy

mmmmmm

[arctic orchid]

I gave up half way into assignments with M1907

I just can't "feel" it

[midnight nimbus]

no reason to use Ribey when SARs exist

[prime pine]

Honestly. Im going to main the m2 carbine for my assault.

Im gonna feel that gun for sure.

[arctic orchid]

I pushed STG44 so much I made 1,8k kills with it, but Ribey just suits me better, same way I left Sten 1,7k kills and Tommy 1,4k kills for Zk

[midnight nimbus]

> not maining anti tank infantry launchers

I just want BFV to stay alive long enough so I can piss people off with Fliegerfaust spam pls

[prime pine]

I have more fun as a support.

[arctic orchid]

I am more worried that it won't make it to RSP

I want them to push that faster

[prime pine]

They should seperate the launcher damage values to infy from buildings.

[arctic orchid]

Then when we start making our own shit game will live

[prime pine]

The ap pistol now requires two grenades to destroy a wall.

Which is absolute bullshit.

[solid hinge]

fuck EA

Wait

I heard someone talk about epic tank skins

[midnight nimbus]

RIP AT pistol

not like it was every good in the first place

[gray glade]

@solid hinge EA or dice did another mistake lol

[prime pine]

It didnt need to be good versus infantry. The utility it offered was immense.

[sweet fulcrum]

I used it as a gadget shotgun

[solid hinge]

Oh no

You can no longer get them right?

[gray glade]

for about an hour you could buy a shitload of nice tank skins for CC

i got 4-5 myself

[solid hinge]

FUUCK

[midnight nimbus]

now i have to play BF4 to be an explosives whore 😓

[solid hinge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/c5bwet/longer_explanation_of_todays_issues/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ios_share_flow_optimization&utm_term=control_1

SEND PICS IN DMS PLEASE

I have a video of all of them

Theyre all historically accurate as well

https://youtu.be/1coicvfNBmU

[prime pine]

Driving in a black churchill just gives me a bad impression of a burned churchill.

Not that its bad.

[solid hinge]

I bought wünstenpinzel for the tiger

[prime pine]

Just something i must get used to.

[solid hinge]

Looks bloody amazing

im jealous tbh

i missed it 😦

[prime pine]

Yeah... I was thinking that. Wish i could have been of some help at least celestine.

[grim locust]

couldn’t you make a Finnish layout in Battlefield 5

[solid hinge]

Layout?

[grim locust]

We have 2 Finnish guns

use a German pistol

[solid hinge]

You mean loadout?

[grim locust]

Loadout*

[solid hinge]

Yeah you can

[grim locust]

Don’t forget the Molotov

[solid hinge]

Suomi kp with the architecht torso, wolf legs and cap

Got yourself a finnish kp man

[grim locust]

Or the Finnish LMG

[solid hinge]

Ye the lahti

[grim locust]

Must also have a Molotov

[tight mirage]

TF why did BF1 have the nice epic or legendaary skins in lootboxes wich you could unlock without real money. and BFV just full on only real money stuff

cmon

I liked grinding for loot boxes

gave me more replay ability

the only cool looking weapon skins we can get is the gold.. Yea its cool but the same skin on all weapons 😭

[stoic breach]

Mint is better

[limber anchor]

I like gold on certain weapons

[glossy locust]

not sure why they wanted to even change the formula

if people are playing your game, you need a season pass for skins

[tight mirage]

doesnt have to be

[limber anchor]

Well they kinda already do

[glossy locust]

season pass gives free skins throughp laying

[tight mirage]

yea but i just want something like BF hardline but different

[limber anchor]

The chapter rewards are pretty good

The weapon skins aren’t great but the outfits are

[tight mirage]

alot of skins, you can just purchace with ingame money, and some you need to grind for.. (like the mettalic ones from hardline i think)

[midnight nimbus]

remember when people used to play vidya just for the game

and didn't care about skins or cosmetic nonsense

[glossy locust]

firestorm is literaly hte most underrated BR out too

should make it f2p it would take off

it SHITS on pubg like big dumps all over it

[tight mirage]

yea ofcourse we do but if they gonna be making skins why put it behind a paywal while they can make us grind for it and play the game more. @midnight nimbus

[midnight nimbus]

PUBG 100% has better maps

studios should just MTX the shit out of cosmetics

until people realize how dumb it is

[tight mirage]

no

[midnight nimbus]

MTX revenue is insane

I totally get why studios do it now

[tight mirage]

\

[midnight nimbus]

people complain about it and still play the game

epic

[glossy locust]

i don't care about them at all either charge whatever you want for cosmetics

i want a season pass because it makes people play the game

[midnight nimbus]

$15 elite skins actually kinda make sense

DICE just needs more of them

[glossy locust]

they need a ton of them, people actually buy them

i see them a lot especially the girl, lol

[limber anchor]

They should be 10 dollars but 15 isn’t bad

[midnight nimbus]

i'd never buy one

[radiant seal]

What is the best way to get 10 hip fire objective kills in one life?

[solid hinge]

“remember when people used to play vidya just for the game”

[midnight nimbus]

but they need way more

[limber anchor]

I bought Hannah cause I thought she looked cool

[solid hinge]

News flash: they still do

[dense bone]

@radiant seal just go for 20 in a round

[solid hinge]

And I dont think the devs nickle and diming us adds to that experience hense = people care

[midnight nimbus]

actually force all cosmetics to be $$ but one standard one

[glossy locust]

yeah the vast majority of skin purchases are from a small percentage of players

[limber anchor]

The new German skin looks real nice but idk if I want to spend more money lol

[radiant seal]

@dense bone

[midnight nimbus]

gotta feed the community content addiction

[glossy locust]

it's common knowledge

in industry board meetings they call them "whales"

[midnight nimbus]

especially since it has zero effect on player count

[dense bone]

@radiant seal good luck getting CQC kills WITHOUT dying in return

just go to hot spots and run around hipfiring like a mad lad

[glossy locust]

it helps player retention it's been proven

[radiant seal]

Thats what ive been doing

Lol

[dense bone]

you cant get 20 kills in a round?

[glossy locust]

put it in the game, but don't tie weapons or scopes to it or anything like that

[solid hinge]

Yeah having skins etc is a nice goal to put on top of a great game

Thats why mw2 started the whole prestige and skins unlock system

[radiant seal]

@dense bone for the mp40 it has to be 10 hip fire kills on objectives in ONE LIFE

[solid hinge]

Think EA was the first to monetize it

[glossy locust]

they were

[midnight nimbus]

BF Heroes

[glossy locust]

fifa ultimate team

[midnight nimbus]

based

[glossy locust]

fifa invented the loot box

[dense bone]

@radiant seal almost certain any 10 kills in a life assignment also has 20 kills in a round

[solid hinge]

Bf heroes is like

2012

[midnight nimbus]

BFHeroes MTX is genius

I would honestly force everyone to play as a woman

[solid hinge]

Yeah thats EA at its purest

[midnight nimbus]

if you don't want to be a woman, it's paid MTX

[solid hinge]

With bfh and bfp4f

[limber anchor]

Black ops 2 started experimenting with MTX too

[glossy locust]

Firestorm F2P would instantly give this game like 100k more players

[solid hinge]

They all did

[glossy locust]

and 20k more hackers

[solid hinge]

And now we are here

Where skins are half of the game

To get people to spend more cash

[dense bone]

FS is actually good too

[wary tapir]

Someone said skins

Ilse out yet? ;P

[solid hinge]

No

[wary tapir]

damn.

[limber anchor]

But it’s funny to me how different the MTX is between cod and bf but people bitch about both when bo4 is legit the worst

[solid hinge]

Who gives a fuck about cod in 2019

[limber anchor]

Bfv has the best MTX compared to that

Apparently the millions of people who buys it every year lol

[solid hinge]

Their sales have been down every year

[midnight nimbus]

CoD system is awful, but I'm still gonna buy MW2019 before considering whatever BF comes out next

[solid hinge]

So I dont think there even are millions plural who play the game

[midnight nimbus]

not many games have player bases in the millions

[limber anchor]

@solid hinge PUBG and fortnite are the only ones I know who did

Maybe apex

But MW is gonna sell like crazy just because it’s MW

[solid hinge]

I doubt it

[midnight nimbus]

return to its roots

🤤

[solid hinge]

Prolly all the new kids who never got to play mw or mw2 will

[glossy locust]

bfv has graphics (and even better performance) better vehicles, better gunplay than pubg

[limber anchor]

@solid hinge you don’t understand how much hype it has right now

[glossy locust]

the loot system is worse but i kinda even like the loot system now

[dense bone]

pubg has duos though

[limber anchor]

I disagree with the gunplay

[solid hinge]

It has so much hype that I legit see it nowhere

[glossy locust]

pubg gunplay is so clunky omg

[midnight nimbus]

PUBG maps are also better than Halvoy

[limber anchor]

PUBGs gunplay is so good lol

[dense bone]

if you think pubg gunplay beats bfv idk what to tell you

[solid hinge]

Only thing ive seen about mw is the sjw journalist complaining about the campaign

[dense bone]

except seek mental help

[midnight nimbus]

fundamentally different gunplay

[glossy locust]

have they improved it since like a year ago when i played it?

[limber anchor]

I play both and I like both but pubgs gunplay and the way the weapons work is just so good

[midnight nimbus]

it's like comparing BF gunplay to Apex

honestly

[soft storm]

They added some things to PUBG that changed the meta completely

It’s a lot like BFV now

[dense bone]

except not like bfv vs apex

[midnight nimbus]

that's how comparable BFV and PUBG gunplay are

[limber anchor]

PUBG is a completely different game from a year ago

[soft storm]

In terms of movement, but gunplay wise it’s basically the same

[glossy locust]

hmm how so, you like how it's realistic from a recoil perspective?

it reminded me of insurgency a bit a year ago

[solid hinge]

Apex was so good everybody quit after a month

[midnight nimbus]

adding more spread and recoil

[limber anchor]

The recoil feels great in PUBG

[midnight nimbus]

that's mostly what separates gunplay in FPS anyways

[limber anchor]

They just feel like they have so much power behind them

Insurgency is on another level in terms of that though

[midnight nimbus]

insurgency guns sound absolutely sexual

it's great

[glossy locust]

yeah i mean maybe you like that realistic feel better i prefere the smooth recoild control of bfv and apex

[limber anchor]

For me the recoil feels a little “floaty” if that makes since

[vapid peak]

apex has the recoil of an airsoft rifle

[quiet ingot]

@soft storm pubg gunplay is amazing

It’s what keeps the playerbase around

[dense bone]

[limber anchor]

@quiet ingot thank you lol

[midnight nimbus]

I personally don't care for the bigly recoil memes in FPS

[soft storm]

Is that so

[midnight nimbus]

not like they're super skill or anything

[glossy locust]

I think anything more than CS feels bad

[dense bone]

they are more skill though

[glossy locust]

and CS ak is a little crazy at times

[dense bone]

but those AK one taps

[limber anchor]

PUBG gunplay takes a ton of skill

[dense bone]

pfft

[glossy locust]

pubg to me, again haven't played in probably a year, has more recoild than CS

[limber anchor]

Don’t know about CS never played it

[glossy locust]

pubg is almost like a simulator from a gun perspective

[dense bone]

i havent played in a year or so either, but have 700 hours in pubg

guns are not hard to control

or at least werent hard to control

[quiet ingot]

Compared to...?

[glossy locust]

would you agree on the simulator like control though

[midnight nimbus]

PUBG is more spread limited than recoil

[quiet ingot]

It isn’t

Jesus

[midnight nimbus]

PUBG has bigly spread

[quiet ingot]

There is no spread

Literally none

[dense bone]

pubg is just a lot of vertical recoil

[midnight nimbus]

lolololol

[limber anchor]

@glossy locust PUBG doesn’t have spread I’m pretty sure

[glossy locust]

well all i remember is having to one tap at distance to hit anything

[dense bone]

horizontal recoil is weak

[midnight nimbus]

spread is literally listed as a weapon stat in PUBG

[glossy locust]

i was probably just bad

[limber anchor]

@glossy locust nah that’s what you’re supposed to do lol

[dense bone]

well, considering how spread out the map was determined what you had to do

[midnight nimbus]

I like how spread works in PUBG

[dense bone]

unless i was in a building i was in semi auto

[midnight nimbus]

you have spread and deviation, which is cool

[glossy locust]

having played both, vastly prefer bfv and i prefer CS GO the most in terms of gunplay

[midnight nimbus]

the latter is fixed in BF

[glossy locust]

csgo is perfect IMO

[quiet ingot]

It doesn’t work with ranged battles tho

It works at CSGO distances

[dense bone]

pubg is better than bfv in everything but gunplay, sound, and graphics

[quiet ingot]

Not 100m

[midnight nimbus]

spread is great for regulating long range

without it you get shit like Apex

[glossy locust]

bfv was loosely based on CSGO "recoil patterns" model, but in practice it's not as good

[limber anchor]

Never really played csgo I only played it on Xbox and it was basically l4D without zombies lol

It was weird

[glossy locust]

bfv is recoild patterns with projectile model of past titles

[midnight nimbus]

Apex is the logical result of balanced no spread gameplay

[glossy locust]

but SARs are fucking laser beams with no recoil

[midnight nimbus]

well recoil patterns don't really work with autos

wouldn't make logical sense

[quiet ingot]

[midnight nimbus]

not with how BF handles it at least

[dense bone]

a lot of things dont make logical sense, its games

[midnight nimbus]

you start a new pattern every time you click

[tribal cairn]

Like a MG round able to outrange a sniper bullet with no drop at all?

[midnight nimbus]

since you have to let go of the trigger for every shot with a semi, there's no way to have a pattern with BF's system

[fathom pebble]

guys...

https://i.imgur.com/2Qh0Fd1.png

I think we just got trolled by DICE

[glossy locust]

every gun automatic gun in csgo has a recoil pattern it's the same every single time if you hold down the trigger. They tried to emulate this in bfv, but adding projectile distance

[fathom pebble]

@solid hinge get it ? Hand gun

[limber anchor]

I hope one day they take battlefield to a slightly more realistic shooter but I doubt it

[glossy locust]

projectile physics i mean

[fathom pebble]

[midnight nimbus]

projectile physics aren't what makes BFV patterns bad

[quiet ingot]

@limber anchor agree

[limber anchor]

@fathom pebble why is it?

[midnight nimbus]

why don't people just play a more realistic shooter instead of making BF one

lol

[glossy locust]

why is there this huge subset of wanting to make BFV a tactical shooter that it never was?

[fathom pebble]

read what it says

[midnight nimbus]

there's plenty of good realistic shooters out there

don't make BF one

[limber anchor]

@quiet ingot I just can’t wait for insurgency on console because there’s no other games like it

[fathom pebble]

E to pick Hand gun and the gesture of a gun done with an hand

[quiet ingot]

It’s hard to find a good sandbox shooter with a lot of simultaneous players and polish

[limber anchor]

It’s gonna be run shitty but idc

[midnight nimbus]

everyone who wants BF to be more realistic should just play RS2V

[tribal cairn]

You know what I just realized? Not too many people realize in this game that you could use tanks as mobile cover to push an objective

[midnight nimbus]

or Squad

or ARMA

[glossy locust]

i hate that slow pacing of realistic games like pubg and insurgency i don't want to wait in a god damn building for 15 minutes

[strong parrot]

@fathom pebble smaller jpg next time please?

[glossy locust]

i got a chicken dinner by moving twice in 40 minutes and i never picked up that stupid game again

fucking dying of boredom

[fathom pebble]

omfg

LMAO

[limber anchor]

@glossy locust that’s how you chose to play lol

[fathom pebble]

@strong parrot https://youtu.be/K0iIGGJzFdE?t=48

pew pew pew

[midnight nimbus]

realistic shooters are terminally boring

[glossy locust]

they are so god damn boring

[tribal cairn]

Well, I'm a military fanatic, so I cater to games like Arma

[glossy locust]

and there is this huge "veteran" group of BF players that want it to be a realistic shooter

it drives me insane

[strong parrot]

wow I cant believe dice worked on a fake hand gun when there are real issues still in this game! 😤

[midnight nimbus]

MILSIM BOOMERS

genuinely as awful as the people who want to turn CoD into Siege

[limber anchor]

@tribal cairn I love those type of games but since I’m on console I’m out of luck lol

[midnight nimbus]

let the game be what they're meant to be

[glossy locust]

people actually PRAISED the terrible visibility because it shoudl "work like camo in real life"

[midnight nimbus]

^

[solid hinge]

I want to play Arma so bad

[midnight nimbus]

lolololol

literally just play ARMA

if you enjoy dying to things you can't see

[ionic jacinth]

Bad Company 2 best Battlefield change my mind

[quiet ingot]

@glossy locust I don’t want a milsim I do like projectile physics and I like recoil based gunplay.

[limber anchor]

I just hate how dice won’t commit to what they want there game to be

[quiet ingot]

Arma sucks ass for too many reasons to count

[glossy locust]

BFV has this IMO awfully quick TTK because of this "hardcore" playerbase

the TTK is too fast in bfv

[midnight nimbus]

BFV TTK isn't that fast

slower than BF4's

[quiet ingot]

^

[midnight nimbus]

or 3's

it's faster than 1 and BC2 ig

[limber anchor]

First they talk about how they want attrition to be important but changes it after the beta

[midnight nimbus]

maybe bc they realized attrition sucks 🤔

[dense bone]

bring back longer ttk

[strong parrot]

because people cried that they cant camp anymore and rekt a whole team

oh the horror you have to resupply your ammo

or god forbid get a health pack

[midnight nimbus]

attrition does a great job of preventing camping... oh wait

[limber anchor]

Then they talk about physicality but then adds back the dumb ammo and medical crate system from the old games

[quiet ingot]

Attrition is fine applying to health

[glossy locust]

tbh it's pretty fucking annoying to run to a resupply crate from the frontlines when you run out of ammo

[quiet ingot]

Shouldn’t apply to ammo

[glossy locust]

it's not fun

who could think running to a supply crate is fun?

[midnight nimbus]

what, you don't like playing fetch with an FPS side quest?

[limber anchor]

I just hate that they can’t just stick to their guns and take risks

[glossy locust]

it's not a risk, ti's a bad idea spawned from the "hardcore" bf crowd

[quiet ingot]

Because the playerbase is completely bipolar

[glossy locust]

stick those people in their own servers and let them die by sniper fire to their foot

[midnight nimbus]

i wish BF3 was the first BF game

[quiet ingot]

The 6 of us in here can’t even agree on something and they’re making our game

[limber anchor]

Yea because grabbing ammo from an ammo box is so “hardcore” and difficult lol

[midnight nimbus]

so no one would ever ask BF to be more like the refractor games

[glossy locust]

it's supposed to emulate resupplying in battle yes

what else is it's purpose?

[limber anchor]

@quiet ingot but we all know who they’ll cater to lol

[midnight nimbus]

PrEsSiNg E iS sKiLl

attrition = busywork

[glossy locust]

they catered to you! BFV is catering to hardcore players of past battlefields

in every way

[quiet ingot]

@glossy locust its an artificial skill cap

Literally that’s all it is

[midnight nimbus]

^

[limber anchor]

No they’re not they were at the start

[midnight nimbus]

it's busywork

[tribal cairn]

You know, I think they should add Third Person Gunners

[midnight nimbus]

especially during alpha/beta

[quiet ingot]

Otherwise someone with the Gewehr or M1 can shit on an entire other team

[limber anchor]

Now they are changing back the way everything was

[midnight nimbus]

you spawn into battle, gotta remember to run to the depots before actually getting to play the game

[limber anchor]

2 steps forward 3 steps back

[glossy locust]

yeah and it was better, I love bfv guns, i even like the removal of spotting, but attrition sucks

and so do fortifications

[tribal cairn]

Well, fortifications aren't so bad

[solid hinge]

Fortifications I am mixed on. I am not averted to the idea of putting down mgs or barbed wire pieces but these superfortresses are a bit ridiculous.

[midnight nimbus]

building simulator with an FPS side quest

[glossy locust]

honestly BF1 without 3d spotting and EVERYTHING else the same

[limber anchor]

I just hope with the next bf they’ll actually try to have a direction

[glossy locust]

is teh better game in every way

[limber anchor]

But judging by what they are doing with bfv they are pretty much going back to the old ways

[midnight nimbus]

3D spotting is 😍

[glossy locust]

so basically bf1 with classic battlefield rules back from bf2 before spotting

i like no spotting

[midnight nimbus]

I like being able to communicate with blueberries

[glossy locust]

i think you should be able to spot vehicles though

[quiet ingot]

The word filter is the worst part

It makes the game a lot less social imo

[limber anchor]

People claim they want no spotting but complain that they can’t see anyone lol

[upper plank]

Soooo, when are digital edition owners getting something? ^^

[midnight nimbus]

spotting and visibility are two entirely separate entities

[solid hinge]

Next game hopefully isn't a washed out shit game that takes no risk due to the backlash.

Bf1 was perfect. I put it alongside BC2 and BF4

[glossy locust]

you can't see anyone because of the graphics i have no issues seeing people in any other game without spotting

[limber anchor]

I feel bad for dice they just can’t win lol

[quiet ingot]

well

[midnight nimbus]

i can see everyone in previous BFs with no spotting yea

[glossy locust]

bfv visibility is not bad because of no spotting

[quiet ingot]

They can win by not spinning out a buggy game

[limber anchor]

You didn’t have any issues because the characters glowed like they do now lol

[glossy locust]

and the argument that spotting removed flanking opportunities was also hogwash

[midnight nimbus]

^

[quiet ingot]

It feels like an expansion pack to BF1 with a reskin

[midnight nimbus]

literaliy get better at flanking

if you can't flank in a game with spotting

if you get spotted flanking, maybe your flank sucks

[limber anchor]

I’ve never seen that argument before lol

[glossy locust]

bfv has the best gunplay in the series, and the removal of spotting was a good one, but none of the other systems are good including the lower TTK compared to bf1

[solid hinge]

The BF community is split between people from COD, older battlefield fans, and newbies.

They all want different things and DICE is stuck trying to please them all but pleasing nobody. Aswell as the greed.

[glossy locust]

with 64 players and people hiding in corners i don't like to get vaporized in 1 second because of some corner whore

[quiet ingot]

That’s a function of the MG design and visibility

[limber anchor]

I’ve never played the older BFs but from what I hear bf2 is the best

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 isn't a very campy game bc of spotting

and indirect fire

[limber anchor]

So maybe they should go back to that

[midnight nimbus]

BF2 is genuinely garbage if you play infantry

[quiet ingot]

Bf2 isn’t nearly as good as ppl remember

[midnight nimbus]

tolerable if you play vehicles

[glossy locust]

honestly having played them all BF3 had both the best balance and longevity

[quiet ingot]

And had an insanely low ttk

Like cod mw2 ttk

[limber anchor]

That’s good lol

[midnight nimbus]

BF2 TTK isn't low

[limber anchor]

Wait never mind

[quiet ingot]

Yeah but this is the same guy saying low ttk is bad

[limber anchor]

I read that wrong

[glossy locust]

i still say that, but can't say that bf3 was the best

?

[quiet ingot]

It was revolutionary

For the time

[glossy locust]

bf3 did the combined warfare the best of the series in my opinion with strong vehicles and strong infantry

[quiet ingot]

Came out during an FPS drought

[glossy locust]

and some of the best maps as well

[upper plank]

So, when is DICE LA taking over development?

[midnight nimbus]

BF2 TTK is actually pretty slow

[limber anchor]

@upper plank probably after chapter 5

[midnight nimbus]

all the BF2 players asking for fuckhuge maps

[upper plank]

Bleh... Long wait.

[midnight nimbus]

like yeah that worked in BF2

[limber anchor]

When dice starts developing bc3

[midnight nimbus]

bc guns had so much fucking spread you can't hit anything at range

so you're not gonna get shot on your 300m stroll to the next obj

[unkempt nova]

lol

[sacred junco]

don't forget the permafogs

[midnight nimbus]

if you think BF1 nade spam is bad

lol

try 5 nades per player in BF2

[limber anchor]

I also hope they develop the next frostbite engine too because it’s time for a new one

[sacred junco]

undisarmable claymores

[quiet ingot]

Bf2 does not play well today

[limber anchor]

Maybe they should remove all explosives from the next game since everybody complains about them

[midnight nimbus]

no i fucking love tons of explosives

I think it's hilarious that everyone else complains about them

BF1 was a low explosive spam game

[limber anchor]

Maybe just no grenades and claymores

[upper plank]

You could always disarm claymores.

[unkempt nova]

of course i just headshotted someone with my m28 con trombocino for 99

[upper plank]

It's called 5.56.

[glossy locust]

BFV with some better maps would still be overall the best though, I have a lot of fun with it. I have played it for 144 hours so about a third of the time i spent on bf3

[limber anchor]

Maybe grenade launchers too lol

[visual blade]

bf1 is god

[sacred junco]

i can't see how its a low explosive spam game compared to bfv

[glossy locust]

they all are fun, i just don't think they have made great maps since bf3

[visual blade]

bf1 has astonishing maps imo

[limber anchor]

They should probably remove tanks and planes too

[upper plank]

Imo best part of BF1 was Back To Basics.

[limber anchor]

And the maps should just be on a flat surface so people can’t complain about visibility

[midnight nimbus]

BFV has greater explosive spam potential than BF1

people are too stupid to abuse it

[sacred junco]

ehhh

maps don't allow it too happen as often

and lack of nade charge helps

[midnight nimbus]

you refill explosives much faster in BFV than BF1

[sacred junco]

and nades being overall very weak helps

[quiet ingot]

Nades are so weak

It’s absurd

[solid hinge]

@limber anchor made ttk faster for those who pay money. Then if they whine we can just say they should pay an extra 20 for a better experience

[quiet ingot]

Probably necessary though

[limber anchor]

Every explosive is weak for infantry outside of the piat lol

[sacred junco]

and maps being more open in general makes it so spams aren't as common

[limber anchor]

Maybe they nerfed it though I don’t remember

[solid hinge]

Side equipment sucks except for the healing and ammo.

[midnight nimbus]

BFV suffers from epic power drain

[limber anchor]

That’s what happens when every complains about things

[solid hinge]

Its not what happens with complaints. Its what happens when a company has no integrity and has to adhere to EVERY complaint.

[sacred junco]

I overall like BFVs decisions, but thats not a very common opinion

[limber anchor]

Now everything is nerfed to shit lol

[sacred junco]

but everyone has their own vision of BF

and no ones gonna be happy

whether they be right or wrong

[limber anchor]

Weak vehicles weak gadgets weak every thing lol

[midnight nimbus]

tanks are weak but they're still way less weak than infy

oh and bombers are still genuinely super good

the last vestiges of fun

[sacred junco]

still don't know how to use em smh

[midnight nimbus]

oh and SARs are still fantastic, but you get attritioned

[solid hinge]

Plane combat in BF5 is almost perfect

[midnight nimbus]

😂😂😂

[sacred junco]

I don't see the attrionted argument besides health packs

ammo is so hard to find whilst too easy to find

?

[midnight nimbus]

oh yeah Turner gets 14 bullets per ammo pickup

enough for 4 kills

epic

ammo is a non concern for the 1916 and G 1-5 too

[limber anchor]

Ammo is a non concern period lol

[solid hinge]

I like Health packs. It makes it so I don't have to just crouch behind a wall every time I take damage and I can heal faster.

Probably an unpopular opinion

[sacred junco]

Its easier really

[limber anchor]

The health system is great because it makes medics more important

[midnight nimbus]

ammo is a big concern with the AG m/42

[sacred junco]

medics too cheesy

[midnight nimbus]

and 1907

and recon SLRs

[solid hinge]

They need to have more ammo carry capacity for semi-autos and rifles. 5 more bullets would fix it.

[limber anchor]

Or just make it that support can give players more ammo to make them more important

Maybe 30 more rounds than what they give now

[sacred junco]

i do a few times

and sometimes i never find ammo amidst 10~15 teammates near me

i mean tbh nothing really prevents you from taking enemy weapons

but ya wanna stick to your guns even at the risk of running out too often

[midnight nimbus]

it's really just a concern on longer range weapons

[solid hinge]

^

[midnight nimbus]

not gonna play up close enough to pick up ammo packs with the ZH or AG

that's just stupid

or just camp the attrition depot

[sacred junco]

supports can still camp tho

[midnight nimbus]

effective

relaxing

[icy sluice]

ASMR

[midnight nimbus]

more of a concern for attacking players too

vs defense

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge

There needs to be a balance because as a sniper i feel I constantly need to go back to ammo depots then just camp there.

[midnight nimbus]

defense can just sit on the box bc each obj has them

[solid hinge]

I've only ran out of ammo enough for it to be noticable with the slrs

[midnight nimbus]

longer ranged attackers get fucked

[solid hinge]

Not with any other gun

[sacred junco]

i dunno if typical games have a large enough frontline for that to be a large issue still

[limber anchor]

I only run out as recon if I forget to go to the resupply

[midnight nimbus]

even in CQB some guns get disproportionately shafted

bc of how ammo pickup works

like the rapid fire Suomi/Thompson

one pickup doesn't cover what you spend on one kill

[sacred junco]

well at least you can argue that thats what you sacrfice for fast cq ttk

not so much for 20 mag MAB or MP34

[midnight nimbus]

Turner/G 1-5 pick up enough to cover like 3 kills

[sacred junco]

though 20 mag MAB is fun

[solid hinge]

Is anyone else having a glitch where it stops you from reviving halfway through reviving?

[midnight nimbus]

oh yeah 20 round MP34/MAB is really shafted

[sacred junco]

you sure you weren't spamming reviving button?

[solid hinge]

Yeah i pressed it once

[sacred junco]

probably not a bad idea to adjust max ammo count based on ttk/kill potential

rather than mag capacity

[solid hinge]

F

*repiddily

HAHAHA just got a draw in a conquest match!!

i really want to play bfh

[limber anchor]

I just want to play bfv beta version again lol

[solid hinge]

WHAT UP INVADERS

[limber anchor]

And hardline wasn’t bad

[solid hinge]

it looks like it has character

@solid hinge what up indvaders

idk if people hated it so much for the setting or because it was genuinely a bad game

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge congrats

[solid hinge]

WHAT IS UP INVADERS, CHRIS HERE

assault has light infantry so they'll never run out of ammo

[midnight nimbus]

unless you play AG

well, use the AG properly at least

spam cannon + long range + small mag isn't a great combo for your ammo count

[limber anchor]

@solid hinge it was the setting

[solid hinge]

Find one support and slap him for some ammo

[midnight nimbus]

yeah at least you can do that now

also

Hardline has the best seeing of any BF

[solid hinge]

it's setting seems cool tbh

[limber anchor]

I wouldn’t say the best but it wasn’t bad

[solid hinge]

i always thought that even when the game was still in its "prime" getting bashed left and right

[limber anchor]

@solid hinge it happens with every bf

[solid hinge]

i guess

why must it take hindsight for people to appreciate a bf game

[limber anchor]

Only bf that I would call bad imo is bf1

[solid hinge]

did bfh release in a poor state?

[limber anchor]

@solid hinge don’t think so

[solid hinge]

yeah me neither

[midnight nimbus]

BFH released well

[icy sluice]

Yeh

[limber anchor]

It just didn’t sell well

[midnight nimbus]

its mechanically the same as BF4