battlefield-legacy-titles

[icy sluice]

Like absolutely no one would expect it

[stoic breach]

Imagine if Dice just buffed transport vehicles and made them faster

[tribal cairn]

Cough Army of Two remastered cough

[compact oxide]

I reckon the game was more finished before release but when people got mad at muh historical accuracy they had to ditch half the assets

[icy sluice]

Kubelwagen Nitrous upgrade

[stoic breach]

Lol probably

[icy sluice]

Gets rockets on them

[stoic breach]

The original combined arms model is in the game files but they didn't finish it so we got stuck with a gimped one

[compact oxide]

Battlefield:Fury Road

[stoic breach]

Battlefield furry road

[icy sluice]

There's so many people doing suicide cars and shit now

Yes, let me get a combat fursuit @stoic breach

[tribal cairn]

What about a Nebelwerfer?

[stoic breach]

Yeah too bad turret rotation speed makes jeepstuff easier to do

[tribal cairn]

Bring Nebelwerfers into the game

[stoic breach]

Ok gamer

[icy sluice]

It's hip to fuck bees

[solid hinge]

you want historical accuracy well we can ditch most of the guns in the armoury and carve up the class system, do away with most gadgets too

[compact oxide]

EA just need to buy out Bethesda and make battlefield: Wolfenstein

[icy sluice]

Pssst, that's basically what their Enemy Territory series was

[stoic breach]

Imagine BFV with dual wielding and Gunrunner

😩😩

[tribal cairn]

The Axis always win due to technologial superiority

[compact oxide]

Zombie Nazis vs 32 BJ Blaskowitz

[tribal cairn]

I ain't wehraboo, but look at Wolfenstein

[drifting marsh]

dirtbike😫 😫

[stoic breach]

Do you know how good smgs would be if you could use gunrunner for them?

Like in Titanfall 2

And Titanfall 1 actually

[icy sluice]

I would love to see a joke in one of the trailers of a soldier trying to wall run but just falls and breaks his hip

[solid hinge]

imagine if Dice took away all medic weapons and left them with just a m1911 sidearm .. theirs some historical accuracy right there

[compact oxide]

Lol

[stoic breach]

Not 1911

Just webley

Revolver only

[icy sluice]

Not Webley

Just liberator

[stoic breach]

French only

[compact oxide]

Just Rubi

[icy sluice]

Ahhhahahahhh

[compact oxide]

But the Borderlands version

[icy sluice]

Ruby Ruby Ruby Ruby! Ahhhhahhahhhh~

[stoic breach]

Imagine if pistols were good

In BFV

[compact oxide]

Doyadoyadoyado it to me!

[stoic breach]

I hear the S&W revolver is gonna be even better than the webley

[compact oxide]

I wish pistols in bfv were as good as bf1

[stoic breach]

[indigo kelp]

Good fucking god 18/20

[compact oxide]

Webley is the only one that's close

[stoic breach]

BFV barely has a design philosophy

[drifting marsh]

at least bf1 pistols also had zoom settings

[tribal cairn]

It's the only pistol worth using

[icy sluice]

Webley's one shot headshot tho

[drifting marsh]

bfv doesn't have it at all

[stoic breach]

I enjoy the game but theres so much dumb shit

[indigo kelp]

Mercury is such a shit map for breakthrough defense

[drifting marsh]

neither skins

[stoic breach]

Its shit for breakthrough attack as well

[indigo kelp]

Its a shit breakthrough map

[icy sluice]

tmw you realize the Webley is better in V than in 1

[indigo kelp]

wish me luck for hamada attack though

[tribal cairn]

Fjell Breakthrough attack Is the worst

[drifting marsh]

😫 😫 😫

[stoic breach]

Hamada attack is more fun

Long range archer camping

[compact oxide]

Hamada breakthrough ooooof

[drifting marsh]

do pistols actually have skins in the game?

[stoic breach]

No

[drifting marsh]

fuck

[stoic breach]

Apparently that was scrapped

The only pistol skins are the deluxe ones

[drifting marsh]

ooo

[stoic breach]

Thats only 1911, P38 and Ruby

Sucky pistols

[drifting marsh]

damn it

they should add more magnums fr

[stoic breach]

No

Its shit

[drifting marsh]

lol

[stoic breach]

Every pistol other than the Webley and M1912 are shit

The MKVI revolver

Ye

[midnight nimbus]

remember when BF secondaries were good?

[solid hinge]

no lol

they were always putrid

[stoic breach]

😔

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 revolvers were great

[stoic breach]

I just want my frommer stop back

I cant imagine the Welrod being anything other than a faster liberator

[drifting marsh]

pistols were so shit in bf1 idk why

i only used revolvers there

[stoic breach]

They were pretty good

Switching to a pistol wouldnt get me killed in BF1 like in BFV

[visual blade]

man why is the score for bf1 so damn good?

[stoic breach]

Everyone uses the Webley cause it's the only one thats not shit

[drifting marsh]

its the opposite for me ;/

score?

[stoic breach]

Music

[drifting marsh]

yeeeee

😫

[solid hinge]

I had this argument on the weekend in BFEE, the more EA/Dice tries things with Battlefield, the more it keeps returning to its original DNA, people can post emotional plees to the devs to try and change it.. I dont see it happening

[midnight nimbus]

we should pretend that BF before BF3 didn't exist

[drifting marsh]

i don't have a problem with them
since every chapter there's a new weapon

[midnight nimbus]

and return to that DNA

[drifting marsh]

oof

[stoic breach]

Sad

[drifting marsh]

i just want that mini rocket and flamethrower that's all

fucking dank setup

[stoic breach]

[drifting marsh]

small tank got me dead lol

[tribal cairn]

Imagine the M1 Garand being a 2 hit kill at a cost of mag capacity and rate of fire

[stoic breach]

2BTK at 200rpm

Or 3-3BTK at 360rpm

[tribal cairn]

After all, it is a 30.06 getting sent towards your fragile body

[keen spade]

Am i the only one who thinks the BF1 SMLE sights were better then the No.4 Mark 1's in BFV

[wooden hare]

🖐

[stoic breach]

BF1 SMLE was just better in general

[tribal cairn]

I now proclaim this chat dead. Is there a second opinion?

[native kiln]

No

I love having auto update on and it doesn’t update until I go to the update tab

[indigo kelp]

Indeed

finally gold sten

62-33 on hamada as medic

of smoke grenades fired: yes

[native kiln]

Effectively cover half the map

[indigo kelp]

To put it into terms it was worse than a vape convention

[stoic breach]

Gold sten

I cant think of a worse way to spend your time playing

[midnight nimbus]

@stoic breach gold Lee Enfield 😦

[stoic breach]

Oh my fucking god

I actually dont want to think about that

[compact oxide]

Got only a gold MP34 and gold M95

[stoic breach]

I have a gold P08C and Drilling

But its gold barrel and receiver on Drilling and Gold receiver and magazine on P08C and everything else is mint

[solid hinge]

y is sniping in bf1 so fucking hard

[stoic breach]

Its not

[solid hinge]

yes it is i never hit any fuckin shots

i spent 2 hours jus now in multiple conquest games and only got 10 kills total

[stoic breach]

I used to get 30 and 40bombs with recon in BF1

Just practice

[solid hinge]

ive been practicing past 2 weeks

[stoic breach]

Practice more then

Just used the Gewehr 98

Marksman

[solid hinge]

i used all nsipers

snipers

gevehr 98, 95, martini arisaka etc

smh

game so fucking hard

[keen spade]

it might just be me

and i know this is unlikely

But i think it would be cool if BFV had both the Kar98ks and Lee enfield no4 mk1's predecessors, The Gewehr 98 and SMLE

rather as customization for the existing weapons

or as there own stand alone weapons

[solid hinge]

..

amazing how many people get one shot kills lately

i quit bfv bcuz of the sniping

and also cuz the game is fuckin shit

now i came back to bf1 and already suffering with the sniping

Why does everyone hate this game

Its an ok game dude

Do people just get really mad when they get sniped randomly

when it happens all the time aye

I dunno man

not just the sniping

bfv is just a garbage game overlal

it gets boring real fuckin quick

me and my buddy will end up playing it and quitting 3 weeks after

sometimes I just firebomb them

Okay so your problem is personal perference

That's pretty much it

or spend a round in a tank just looking for snipers

@solid hinge nah ive seen so much ppl saying the game is boring

I mean most of my clan likes it

Also plenty like the game on launch

Not saying it's just you

But people also like the game

rarely

Look I play games like rs2 where you die all the time

[echo glen]

I'm too invested in BFV to leave

[solid hinge]

This shit's normal

yall never played a good game to say bfv is good

Define good game

examples?

Yes

[native kiln]

Good to us not to you

[solid hinge]

probs cuz u never played a good game @excalibjmiuegauie

I've played planetside 2, rs2, squad,

[native kiln]

I played bf3 to now

[solid hinge]

its not even about teamwork now its just straight up narcissism

well some examples of actual good bf games

bf1 bf4 bf3

etc

[midnight nimbus]

BF3, 4, H, 1

man played some BF4 today

knocked this guy down from a 5 K/D to a 2

[solid hinge]

BF4 wasn't like this

[stoic breach]

Rip his kd

[solid hinge]

How bad did you knock him lmao

snipers were there, all good, but not half the team

[midnight nimbus]

bc BF used to have good unintentional teamwork

I think he finished around 100-40 something

[solid hinge]

this reminds me of BFBC2 on release, ..sniperfield

[midnight nimbus]

I finished 70+ with 20 something deaths

[stoic breach]

Tank?

[midnight nimbus]

locker TDM

getting my practice in to compete like a shitter this weekend

[solid hinge]

Snipers for whatever reason ruin large maps

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

[solid hinge]

And battlefield is a game which is supposed to function with... large maps

Like what

[midnight nimbus]

there's a BF4 32v32 revival tournament this weekend

[stoic breach]

Snipers would make maps better if they could actually lock down areas as well as supports can

That sounds cool

[solid hinge]

might go onto BF1942 later and just knife snipers for a few hours

[midnight nimbus]

I have to at least be not the worst person on my team

[solid hinge]

Lock down?

[echo glen]

You'll always find people who can snipe from across half the map

[stoic breach]

Area deniel

Fuck

Denial

Sweet spots and the Boys AT are good for area denial

[solid hinge]

In bfv they do just camp around yeah

[stoic breach]

Even if it takes one person getting OHKd to show it

[midnight nimbus]

this is why sweet spot was based

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

bc you have no reason to edge camp

[solid hinge]

I think thats more about tactics though

Remind me what sweet spot was

[stoic breach]

And if the Boys AT had a rainbow glint nobody would fuck with it

[solid hinge]

snipergpu4k-field

zero tactics

[stoic breach]

Sweet spot brings recons into the range where people should actually be playing

[solid hinge]

Yeah but what exactly is the mechanic

[stoic breach]

The bolt action OHK

In BF1

[midnight nimbus]

OHK within certain ranges

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Hmm

[midnight nimbus]

like the SMLE could upper chest shot from 45-70m

outside of that it does 80dmg

[solid hinge]

Interesting idea

[midnight nimbus]

it was gigabased

[solid hinge]

I've heard some hate towards it

Tbh

[midnight nimbus]

the only thing i didn't like was that 80 min damage was too high

[stoic breach]

And now bolts just do 50dmg or some sht

[midnight nimbus]

take one bullet from anything else, and bolts will one shot you at any range

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

should've been like 60 min damage

and bolts would've been perfect in BF1

[stoic breach]

Yeah

That sounds pretty good

Man if BFV had sweet spots for bolt actions

That would be great

[midnight nimbus]

like slug shotguns are 0-10m sweet spot

why shouldn't ranged guns have ranged sweet spots

[stoic breach]

I still think the De Lisle should've been an OHK within 10m

[midnight nimbus]

that idea was apparently tossed around

[stoic breach]

Then if medics had ARs, they would be proficient at every range

Cause you would have De Lisle short range, AR mid and Trombone longish

Where'd you hear that?

@midnight nimbus

[midnight nimbus]

😉😉😉

apparently it would've been "OP" @stoic breach

even though it really wouldn't have been

[stoic breach]

Yeah

I dont really think it wouldnve been op

Kht secretly in charge of dice

👽

[midnight nimbus]

DeLisle still would've been a bad slug shotgun with slug shotgun damage

[stoic breach]

It just works out well

Why not optimise a suppressed weapon for sneaky kills

Its not exactly a skill cannon being headshot OHK only

[midnight nimbus]

it basically would be an 1897 slug that trades some RoF for the ability to equip a scope

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Its a fair tradeoff

Already has decent hipfire as well

[midnight nimbus]

1895 Trench was the based skill cannon

god tier with headshots

but 2 body shots is still semi competitive in TTK

[stoic breach]

At least its better than the Lee Enfield now

No scope glint is pretty good

And straight pull

[midnight nimbus]

BFV Lee Enfield is genuinely one of the worst guns I've used in BF

[stoic breach]

Yeah its just awful

[midnight nimbus]

i used ACOG FAMAS today to meme

[solid hinge]

Its eh

[stoic breach]

I used to like it but then I realised I should just use an SLR in the range I was using it

[midnight nimbus]

and it was better than Lee Enfield

[solid hinge]

The ribey is also eh

Stg is good tier

[midnight nimbus]

Ribey is good

StG is meh

StG is just underwhelmingly average

[solid hinge]

It's fine but the rof feels off compared to its bf1 counterpart

[midnight nimbus]

Ribey only loses by like 2 frames in TTK up close

[compact oxide]

Stg is real easy to use, but too slow to me

[midnight nimbus]

but beats the StG at >35m

[compact oxide]

It's a real easy to use weapon

[midnight nimbus]

also Ribey has better spec upgrade options

[compact oxide]

Oh wait I just said that twice

Ffs will I ever wake up

[solid hinge]

lost track of the times I have been OHK'd by Gw 98 or Krag

[compact oxide]

98?

[solid hinge]

yeah

[stoic breach]

Imagine if the Krag had a 100m-150m sweet spot

[compact oxide]

Oh wait the kar

[stoic breach]

Actual reason to use it

[compact oxide]

Ewww

Krag is real nice to shoot tbh

[coarse thunder]

Imagine using bolt actions in bf5

[compact oxide]

Real smooth

[stoic breach]

I just use the Boys

I trade some mobility for everything else

[midnight nimbus]

also every gun gets to use irl velocity besides bolts

lolololol

[coarse thunder]

Semi auto pop pop double tap

[compact oxide]

Imagine using bolt actions other than the M95 for quickswapping or the trombono

[stoic breach]

Imagine recon AGm

[midnight nimbus]

I want the Ross in .280 Ross

insane velocity

and a sweet spot

[stoic breach]

Why is the ross such a waste of a gun

Why did it not have straight pull on every scope

[coarse thunder]

?

[stoic breach]

Its not like making it better than shit would be overpowered

[compact oxide]

Most of the bolts in BFV are a waste

[stoic breach]

All of them are

[compact oxide]

Too many of the guns are the exact same tbh

[loud aspen]

yo

[stoic breach]

Besides the medic carbines and Boys

[compact oxide]

Or very slightly different

[midnight nimbus]

mfw people cite Stodeh as an example of bolt actions not being shit

[compact oxide]

Like look at the P38 vs the Luger

Lol

[stoic breach]

Stodeh just hits a few shots

And then cuts to another clip

[compact oxide]

Stodeh could do well with anything if you spend enough time filming to get shots

[stoic breach]

Nice shots but alot of cutting

[compact oxide]

Ye

[midnight nimbus]

yeah here's a dude with god tier vision, great reflexes, amazing aim, and thousands of hours of sniping

and he has to cut his shit into tons of clips to make BFV footage

as a <4 K/D player

compare his BFV videos to his BF1 videos

[stoic breach]

I never saw his BF1 vids

[compact oxide]

Yeah he did a lot of the pilot shooting in bf1

[midnight nimbus]

his BF1 videos are great

bc bolt actions are actually good

[coarse thunder]

Sweetspot aagh

[midnight nimbus]

and he's actually very effective, as a player with thousands of hours of practice should be

[stoic breach]

I actuallt expected the ross in BFV to act like a Krag with straight pull

And then I was wrong and the rifle was shit

[coarse thunder]

The biggest casualty are iron sights though imo

Farewell ironsight recon

[midnight nimbus]

BFV irons are fine

but visibility is so shit

[coarse thunder]

Not really

[midnight nimbus]

gotta use 3x on everything

[stoic breach]

3x Boys At

👽

[midnight nimbus]

all the guns with great irons in BF1 are in BFV

[stoic breach]

I wonder how the Panzerbuchse is gonna be like

[midnight nimbus]

1907, 1906, AL8, RSC, Ribey

[coarse thunder]

The irons change depending on what barrel you use. Some are completely better than others

[stoic breach]

Cant remember how to spell it

[coarse thunder]

Like the mint ironsights for the MP40 are much cleaner than the stock one iirc

[stoic breach]

I hope its an OHK

[midnight nimbus]

haven't bothered checking stats for the Panzerbüchse

[stoic breach]

Panzerbuchse has really nice irons as well

[midnight nimbus]

I'm just gonna assume that it's good

[stoic breach]

Hopefully

Cause it had good velocity IRL

[midnight nimbus]

ik the flame pistol is

[coarse thunder]

Well yeah it's an AT rifle

[midnight nimbus]

mfw support gets all the good upcoming guns

👌

[stoic breach]

Imagine if the Panzerbuchse had minimal bullet drop

[midnight nimbus]

I hope DICE doesn't balance the Breda either

[coarse thunder]

How much drop does the Boys have

[midnight nimbus]

bc it's fuckin busted atm

nah Panzerbüchse is gonna have shit velocity

[stoic breach]

Thats upsetting

[coarse thunder]

Wait the Breda is good. Lmao

[stoic breach]

Would've been great if it had good velocity

[midnight nimbus]

Breda at this stage of development is like

best gun in the game

[stoic breach]

It already looks slow as shit

[coarse thunder]

Just comparing to its real life counterpart

[midnight nimbus]

it's like putting the M16A3 in BFV

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

That sounds epic

It's a 4 round burst right?

[midnight nimbus]

yeah

[stoic breach]

Holy shit

[coarse thunder]

Bruh this game. Where everything that was ass in reality is the best thing ever in game

[stoic breach]

Thats an instant and accurate kill

[midnight nimbus]

faster RoF than irl too

epic

[stoic breach]

Breda sounds too good to be true

What's the spread look like?

[midnight nimbus]

more than good enough

[stoic breach]

Are there already stats for it?

I cant remember

[solid hinge]

What is Breda

[midnight nimbus]

RoF mostly

a lot of these guns are unfinished

[stoic breach]

Hm

[midnight nimbus]

and have placeholder stats

but spread is always pretty constant

bc bigbrain formula

no more having to try out new spread values for each gun like in BF1 and before

every gun within the same class has the same spread values

but different spread curves in practice

[stoic breach]

Interesting nugget of information

[midnight nimbus]

yeah gunplay designer is good at his job

[stoic breach]

Is that Drunkz3

Or someone else

[midnight nimbus]

someone else

but BF finally moved to 24/7 SDEC

[gray glade]

when we getting the Panzerbuchse

[midnight nimbus]

which is what most other games already use

[stoic breach]

SDEC?

[midnight nimbus]

spread decrease

[sonic moss]

When will we get custom emblems

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah

[midnight nimbus]

so if you set a macro to fire the Suomi at the same RoF as the MP40, it would have the same exact spread

so it pretty much eliminates BF4 microburst meta without being as hard to use as BF1's gunplay

[stoic breach]

I still dont understand how BF1 gunplay is hard

[midnight nimbus]

it's really forgiving of sloppy trigger control

[stoic breach]

Maybe its just because I play on console

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 just has really punishing spread models

the guns are actually very accurate

it's just really hard (relatively speaking) to squeeze out max accuracy

[stoic breach]

Yeah, idk if I'm just good enough that I didnt notice it or I just generally didnt notice it

[midnight nimbus]

most players sit at the level where they don't get amazing accuracy and accept that BF1 guns are inaccurate

[stoic breach]

Huh

Maybe its because I tap fired alot

I really dont know

I always thought that BF1 guns were really easy to use

I could get decent midrange kills with the M1912/p.16

[midnight nimbus]

danminigun is prolly one of the best YouTubers who showed off how accurate a lot of the guns are

[stoic breach]

Yeah, I should watch alot more of his videos

I've only seen a few

I wish BF1 was more active in OCE cause I wanna go back and play it a bit

That datamined gameplay of the M1912/p.16 was interesting but it looked like the hipfire wasnt that great

[midnight nimbus]

machine pistols are super unfinished

full of placeholder stats

[stoic breach]

Yeah, judging by the way the Astra looked as well

Not even properly on the screen

But it was a secondary weapon which was interesting

[midnight nimbus]

yeah nothing is close to final for machine pistols, even though the files have been around since forever

man i miss peak BF1 days

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

I remember getting a nice FL squad stack going with danminigun and some other guys

[stoic breach]

I wish I had played BF1 frontlines

I never got a chance to play it

Cause it was only ever conquest and tdm servers available

[midnight nimbus]

I feel like it's a very EU gamemode

[stoic breach]

Yeah it must be

[midnight nimbus]

i had to tolerate a 100ms ping to play it

Ayla likes BFV FL for whatever reason

and she's(?) EU

[stoic breach]

GGG on twitter said it was like the only gamemode he played in BFV

[midnight nimbus]

FL is just big over there

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

EU FPS players have good taste

[stoic breach]

Frontlines in BFV feels so sluggish and I just have to wonder what BF1 was like

If it was so much better

[midnight nimbus]

also BF has always been bigger in EU

rest of the world likes CoD more

[stoic breach]

Real sad

[midnight nimbus]

that's why all the BF pros are like French or German

[stoic breach]

Yeah I can't get into CoD's multiplayer

I've always prefered BF

[midnight nimbus]

almost all the super disgusting players in BF are EU

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

How disgusting

EU Battlefield sounds so cryptic

[tribal cairn]

Meanwhile I'm Canadian and I don't know how I fit in here

[midnight nimbus]

NA has some pretty solid players

especially on the vehicle side

but think of all the best players to ever play BF and they're all European

[loud aspen]

Is BF5 worth buying? It's on sale

[midnight nimbus]

this is why I'm so hype for this organized 32v32, it has a lot of former comp guys coming back to play BF4 in a large scale format

[stoic breach]

Yeah that sounds really cool

[native kiln]

What’s fun is with frontlines gone I can’t get that achievement

[midnight nimbus]

@stoic breach ik a lot of guys will be streaming it, but it's 1 PM EST and idk what that'll be in AU

[stoic breach]

I'll probably check a time converter

I'll do that now actually

Holy shit

Its 3am lol

[midnight nimbus]

the teams are a bit lopsided but oh well

[stoic breach]

Lots of fun

What maps are the games gonna be on

[bright ferry]

Is it me or Fjell is the worst map

[midnight nimbus]

I think the rotation is Pearl Market/Firestorm/Zavod

I'm in for Pearl Market

Zavod and Firestorm are gonna be hype to watch

@stoic breach

[stoic breach]

Competitive Zavod sounds crazy

[midnight nimbus]

mfw probably the best player who's gonna be in this has to play US E all the way from Europe

[indigo kelp]

Man when Battlefield 1 was the shit I was drunk literally every time I played it

[main grove]

I only play on US East when it's late at night and Europe servers die after one game

It's noticeably easier despite the higher ping

[indigo kelp]

North American servers are always packed

[midnight nimbus]

idt average European players are any better than NA

they're just much less dumb

on PC at least

[indigo kelp]

never North American console players use Recon wayyyy too much

[midnight nimbus]

and at the top end, i think they're better

idk how it is for console

[echo glen]

Asia gang here

[midnight nimbus]

but like i said, BF is traditionally pretty big on PC EU

where all the top talent comes from

[indigo kelp]

Definitely way more Scouts and Assault than anything else on console

But seeing how the super Capitalist general mentality is in Canada and United States it comes to no surprise players only care about their own kills and could care less about team-play

Or much of anything except a half descent 3-4 kill streak

Anyways North American servers aside what gun animation do we think is the coolest and most satisfying in BFV? I have to say Bren so far

[midnight nimbus]

you've never heard of the NA meme?

NA players suck at FPS

[indigo kelp]

I have to painfully agree

To be honest my funnest games were always on private non NA servers in older titles

[midnight nimbus]

FPS is the least brain intensive genre
NA is the butt of a joke in FPS

I mean I'm NA and I play FPS because I get to turn my brain off

[indigo kelp]

I mean like if I were to breakdown most of what North America even uses for classes at this time in BFV and weapons it’s basically this

[gray glade]

depends entirely on which FPS though

[midnight nimbus]

FPS in general is zero brain

[gray glade]

quake 1v1 is very brainy

[stoic breach]

The best feeling is being able to turn your brain off while playing Titanfall 2 and still get top 3 or first place

[midnight nimbus]

hence the R6S meme "all aim no brain"

even quake is pretty smallbrain as far as vidya goes

but that's fine

[gray glade]

not at the top tho

[indigo kelp]

STG 15 and STG 44 are 90% of NA servers and the rest is G43 and Boys AT rifle

[midnight nimbus]

FPS is a good genre for just turning your brain off and having a good time

there's a reason why FPS is derided in Japanese gaming culture

[gray glade]

i mean, go back to quake live you'd have ppl timing 4 items respawning to the second, anticipating their opponents etc

[midnight nimbus]

eh

[indigo kelp]

And Battlefield history proves NA are in incompetent anyways, like the Hellriegel and Martini post nerf

[midnight nimbus]

that's still pretty smallbrain as far as vidya goes

[stoic breach]

Hellriegel post nerf was still easy as shit

[midnight nimbus]

there's huge levels to brainpower in vidya

[gray glade]

the one genre i can imagine is more skilly is RTS, like star craft

[midnight nimbus]

fighting games are prolly top skill

[stoic breach]

Halo Wars on console is interesting

[gray glade]

isnt that more about reacting tho

[stoic breach]

Tekken takes alot sometimes to play

But its satisfying

[midnight nimbus]

much of the brainpower of RTS along with the mechanical demand of FPS

high level smash is genuinely hugebrain

[indigo kelp]

What I mean is players in NA are well aware that their builds are overpowered and easy to use in every aspect and most the time overpowered but they use them regardless for the sake of good statistics, never even enjoying the game

[midnight nimbus]

you can be a top FPS player without knowing jack shit about mechanics

[gray glade]

with FPS games in general i would agree its kind of no-brainy but definately not for quake (and UT) when it comes to duels

[midnight nimbus]

you won't even scratch the surface in a fighting game without understanding the game thoroughly

[gray glade]

which is why its usually the smartest ppl being champions

[indigo kelp]

Kaizo Mario

is biggest brain game

[gray glade]

that goes for every game though kht

[midnight nimbus]

even quake and unreal don't demand the frame perfection of fighting games

[indigo kelp]

Seriously though look up the Kaizo mod for super mario world

[midnight nimbus]

and for RTS/fighting games, you can't even break into the competitive scene without understanding your game thoroughly

[gray glade]

to reach the top in quake takes alot of time tbh, there is alot of stuff to learn, though not all is pure brain power, some of it is learning the mechanics, like movement etc

[midnight nimbus]

meanwhile you have comp FPS players that are literal idiots

[gray glade]

duel is different tho

for quake anyways

[indigo kelp]

Smash Bros

[stoic breach]

Watching those compilations of CSGO pros fucking up is just really interesting

Smash is superb

[gray glade]

usually for a player to reach the top of quake duel, it takes about 2 years

or more

[stoic breach]

Easy to get into but hard to master

[indigo kelp]

Original smash bros online emulator

[gray glade]

and thats if you practice alot

[midnight nimbus]

I'm not a huge fighting game guy, but smash is thoroughly a masterpiece of a game

with a great community

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Do you play it?

[midnight nimbus]

i wish the BF community were like the smash community

[indigo kelp]

Most the Smash bros players aren’t 12

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

nah

[indigo kelp]

Ironically

[midnight nimbus]

not the top level players at least

[gray glade]

how brainy quake duel works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58

[stoic breach]

I wanna get a switch and play Smash Ultimate again

[gray glade]

starts at 3 mins

[stoic breach]

I gotta get back into it

[gray glade]

my bad 4 mins

[midnight nimbus]

man Titanfall honestly had the best high level potential of any recent FPS

[indigo kelp]

I used to like Halo a-lot because despite being a no brain fps game matches used to start every player with the exact same gun so some brain power was necessary to win a match

[stoic breach]

Yeah Titanfall takes alot of effort to be good at

Competitive Titanfall would be so good

[midnight nimbus]

shooting is ez

being genuinely good with the movement isn't

[stoic breach]

Movement and shit

Yeah I was gonna say

Bhopping and grapple slingshot takes a while to learn

[indigo kelp]

Sniper Elite online

[stoic breach]

Infinite grapple to infinitly wallrun as well is a good trick

[midnight nimbus]

comp BF3/4 in larger formats unironically required good brain power in some circumstances

a sufficiently smart team can beat a team of better fraggers

except doing so makes the game unwatchable

so RIP

[indigo kelp]

^

[stoic breach]

Oh ok

Yeah I really wanna see Titanfall 2 comp

[midnight nimbus]

comp BF often devolved into who understands how to exploit the shit out of the game better

[indigo kelp]

Older Battlefield games had a mechanic that made squads with mics possible to actually tactic

[midnight nimbus]

I've seen some ESL 5s turn into this

I think mics are superfluous for the vast majority of players

[stoic breach]

BF1 vs BFV though

[midnight nimbus]

at a low level, when playing with randoms, you don't understand each other's call outs anyways

[stoic breach]

Communication in BFV lets you absolutely destroy everyone else on console

[midnight nimbus]

at a higher level, they're superfluous, because you all have a mutual understanding of what you need to do

I've gotten my best stomps like this

playing with friends with no mic

[stoic breach]

Yeah I get that

I can play with one of my friends without a mic

[midnight nimbus]

at the highest level? maybe

[stoic breach]

But only one of them

Cause hes mainly a tanker

[indigo kelp]

Well yeah back even in BF1 I had a regular squad I played with (One tanker and one plane pilot) and we were able to dominate a game just the three of us and I was boots on the ground

[midnight nimbus]

this is why we need spotting back

[stoic breach]

BF1 it's easier to do well without communication

[indigo kelp]

Spot enemies at flag for plane, have him do a gun run, and then after that we would smash through with the tank and myself on foot protecting the tank

[midnight nimbus]

bc even at higher levels, using VOIP to talk to more than 3-4 people is a mess

[gray glade]

you saw levelcaps video regarding spotting in BFV? uploaded like yesterday

[stoic breach]

3D spotting I didnt like cause there was no indication of when you were spotted

And 3D spotting is technically in BFV as well

[midnight nimbus]

even a stopped clock is right twice a day

[stoic breach]

It just takes an extra step to do

[midnight nimbus]

LC actually gets it

[thorn cipher]

We need no spotting.... lvl Cap is wining

[midnight nimbus]

3D spotting isn't for ez visibility for you

it's to communicate with randoms

and achieve some level of overall team coordination

[indigo kelp]

Frankly camping would be so useless with 3d spotting and the corner humping would be drastically cut down

[gray glade]

i think level is correct that its obvious even dice themselves seems to have recognized the issues that removing spotting caused in BFV

[midnight nimbus]

yeah look at how aggressive BF4 is, even though many of its mechanics would otherwise make it less aggressive than BFV

[gray glade]

but their solutions havent paid out

[indigo kelp]

I mean 70% of my deaths are attributed to a player prone or in a corner

[stoic breach]

Yeah

I might watch the video

[indigo kelp]

Time to watch the video, link?

[midnight nimbus]

TL;DR 3D spotting allows you to communicate with randoms, needs to come back in some form, maybe just not Q spam like before

done

[gray glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWumQepazWo&t=0s

[midnight nimbus]

that's basically the video

[stoic breach]

It's weird how DICE decided to take BFV in this weird direction with competive-lite elements put into the whole casual game

[indigo kelp]

I don’t agree with LC on much but here and there he makes good points

[stoic breach]

Alright

[midnight nimbus]

we need P A S S I V E S P O T T I N G

[stoic breach]

Well with the sniper combat role you can technically 3D spot people you hit

How would that work?

[midnight nimbus]

same way it does in metal gear

say you ADS on someone and stare at them for 3 seconds

and track them accurately as they move

you clearly see them, right?

if you've been following them

[indigo kelp]

Well in my opinion there are always counters to spotting anyways, like smoke screens that unspot you, and adding an indicator you are spotted is easy

[gray glade]

i think levels strongest point though, was that the solutions to the problem of removing the Q spam... Support and snipers being able to suppress = will spot enemy, snipers having the spotting scope etc dont seem to be used very often

[midnight nimbus]

so now they're spotted

glancing over someone won't spot them

[stoic breach]

Oh yeah, MGS style

That would be good

Spotting scope would do wonders for that

[midnight nimbus]

Q spam is dumb bc you can glance over people while spamming Q

passive spotting has a time requirement

[stoic breach]

Yeah passive spot plus Apex ping system would be pretty good I think

[midnight nimbus]

it exists in BFV files, it's just inactive

[indigo kelp]

In BF1 I could swear my screen had a subtle red flash if I were spotted

am I crazy?

[midnight nimbus]

the figures for BFV passive spotting are actually great

if it weren't dormant

works in a cone, variable to distance

[stoic breach]

You should ask one of the devs about it

[midnight nimbus]

so up close, it's easy to spot people

[indigo kelp]

I have an idea; limit the number of players someone can have spotted at a given time

[midnight nimbus]

but at a distance, it would take longer, and you need to track more accurately

[indigo kelp]

For example, you spam the spot button and the max is five, when you spot your 6th enemy the 1st one spotted is unspotted

[midnight nimbus]

idt hard limits to number of players you can spot is the right approach

hard to give feedback on that

time expiration is fine

[stoic breach]

Holy shit

The amount of time recons spend looking at people and not shooting them

Passive spotting would work wonders

[midnight nimbus]

also, BFV ping wasn't originally intended to be a replacement for spotting

it was supposed to be a supplement

passive spotting + Apex ping is the dream

[indigo kelp]

Time expiration OR an expiration on your spot if you exceed your number so it shifts the spot from the first target to your 6th

[stoic breach]

Yesss passive spot plus apex ping

[indigo kelp]

I never played apex ping what is?

[gray glade]

passive spot how though, just aiming at someone without shooting?

[midnight nimbus]

i don't believe in a set number of players to be spotted bc BF is played in a large scale

[indigo kelp]

That’s a fair point

[midnight nimbus]

if you spot one player running in a blob, why wouldn't you deserve to spot the whole blob?

you clearly see the blob if you can spot one player in it

[stoic breach]

Anti zurg

[midnight nimbus]

why not allow the player to call out the whole blob?

yes fuck zerging

[indigo kelp]

That makes sense

Wtf is zerging?

[gray glade]

machinegunner role has passive spotting already but honestly im trying to kill the enemy as fast as possible, not supress them

[stoic breach]

Wait zurg is from toy story

Yeah zerg

[midnight nimbus]

it's a starcraft reference

the zerg is an alien species that attacks in swarms

also machine gunner isn't passive spotting

you have to shoot

[gray glade]

yeah but you have to miss

[midnight nimbus]

sometimes not shooting is the best strategy

no

suppression acts faster the more accurate you are

bc suppression is based upon proximity to the head

[gray glade]

but it doesnt work like they intended

[midnight nimbus]

shooting at someone's feet doesn't suppress as fast as going for headshots

[gray glade]

if you're MMGing for example, the last thing i want them to be is to stay spotted, if i dont kill im dead

[indigo kelp]

To be fair to the old style of spam spotting if you are in a position where someone can Q spam you to spot you you aren’t playing very tactical

[gray glade]

kill fast or dont shoot at all

[midnight nimbus]

yes, and passive spotting goes under the "don't shoot at all" category

sometimes it's not wise to start shooting

[indigo kelp]

I never made much use of the old style spotting because as soon as I marked an enemy he was sniped

[gray glade]

passive as in its not necessary to hit the enemy

[midnight nimbus]

but if you see people, you can call them out for your teammates to deal with

[stoic breach]

Yeah if you're hiding and outnumbered

[midnight nimbus]

you still have to point at them

[indigo kelp]

It does stop you momentarily

So it’s not with impunity

[midnight nimbus]

only thing we need alongside passive spotting + Apex ping is counterspotting

players should know if they're spotted, perhaps on a delay

and there should be clear methods to unspotting yourself

[indigo kelp]

Having flashbacks of pointing at snipers then getting my head blown off after seeing the scout symbol

[stoic breach]

Yeah I mentioned that before

Knowing when you're spotted

Like in Siege

[midnight nimbus]

like reduce your speed and profile

instead of sprinting, try crouch walking

[stoic breach]

Tacticool crouch sprint

There should be a crouch sprint nerf cause its way too useful

[indigo kelp]

Crouch or prone to speed up unspot time maybe?

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, make the tacticool crouch actually tactical

also crouch sprint is getting a nerf iirc

[stoic breach]

Is it?

[indigo kelp]

[midnight nimbus]

yea

[stoic breach]

Thats cool

[gray glade]

why tho?

cuz it makes less sound?

[stoic breach]

The only reason I dont do it more is because I have less height to peak with

Over low walls and stuff

[midnight nimbus]

you give up relatively little speed in exchange for a big profile reduction and huge sound reduction

[indigo kelp]

But crouch sprint is both not OP and a liability to the user to get headshoted

[stoic breach]

It should be quiet but not as fast

[midnight nimbus]

also crouching players should take longer to passive spot

[stoic breach]

Maybe reduced sprint recovery to aim

[indigo kelp]

I guess we will see

[midnight nimbus]

that's a subtlety you can't have with manual spotting

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

it's a speed nerf iirc

[stoic breach]

Wouldnt it be nice if crouch walking didnt set off AP mines

[midnight nimbus]

maybe(?) a profile reduction nerf but I might be wrong on that

[stoic breach]

Oh shit

Fast passive spot on ap mines?

[midnight nimbus]

yeah crouch walking won't set off AP mines

[indigo kelp]

No more tweaky crouching players flying around

[gray glade]

i would be fine with a speed nerf but sound nerf i dont like, make it useful at least

its useful to flank campers

[midnight nimbus]

it's not a sound nerf

[stoic breach]

Passive spot on ap mines would be so nice

[midnight nimbus]

more bc sound is already a mess

[gray glade]

a nerf to the sound would be making it louder

[indigo kelp]

Idk bring back the 3D spot like how it was at bf1 launch?

[gray glade]

otherwise its a buff

[midnight nimbus]

yeah spotting mines was great in previous BFs

sound isn't changing

[indigo kelp]

The old spotting in bf1 required precise aiming at a target / group and had a cool down time

[gray glade]

good

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 spotting never really changed through its life cycle iirc

it's good, but there's much better things you can do with spotting

a lot of hype gameplay opportunities

[stoic breach]

AP mines would annoy me less if I could quickly passive spot them while walking around

[indigo kelp]

At the games launch you had to be very precise to spot someone and noobs hated it so they buffed it

[gray glade]

would it really affect all that much tho? most mines i walk into are the smart ones, where ppl put them behind closed doors, on the other side of sandbags etc

[indigo kelp]

and it had a cooldown so if you did not spot someone precisely you had to wait a second or two to try again

[gray glade]

its very rare that i dont see mines that are just in the open

[midnight nimbus]

AT mines

[indigo kelp]

^

[midnight nimbus]

also in BF4/1, there are scenarios where you can see AP mines but you can't really shoot them

bc tripwire

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[indigo kelp]

Throw nades

I miss the mini grenade

[stoic breach]

At least give the ability to prone under a bouncing betty when it goes off

[midnight nimbus]

well

soon™

[stoic breach]

🌚

[midnight nimbus]

hype mine changes

[indigo kelp]

Bring back Mini grenade 😦

[stoic breach]

Baby nade

[indigo kelp]

Even with just one it was so funny to use

[stoic breach]

I'm hype for some interesting mine changes

And not just damage reductions or some shit

[indigo kelp]

And getting kills with one that only deals 65 dmg is meta as fuck

[stoic breach]

BF1 tripmines really punished stupidity alot

[midnight nimbus]

honestly, if BF had slightly better movement and less zerg encouragement, I wouldn't mind giving everyone more nades

[stoic breach]

I wish you didnt have to stop running to throw smokes

[midnight nimbus]

iirc ghostayame wanted everyone to have tons of nades

[indigo kelp]

When even 2 mini grenades caused anger

[midnight nimbus]

and idt making nades weak is the solution to reducing nade spam

I want the Apex/Titanfall grenade trajectory displayed

[stoic breach]

Oh yes

[indigo kelp]

That would be neat

[midnight nimbus]

so people aren't so encouraged to just quickly spam nades

[stoic breach]

Just any Titanfall gameplay in general would make BFV so much better

Gunrunner, grenade trajectory

Hipfire

[hot berry]

any UK clans about pc over 18s

[stoic breach]

So good

!lfg

[junior mist]

:information_source: <> Looking for Players to play with? Head Over to the Looking For Group Channels in the (#LFG) Channel Category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[indigo kelp]

wallrunning

[stoic breach]

@hot berry

[midnight nimbus]

grenade trajectory would give people an opportunity to actually take accurate throws

to flush people out

[stoic breach]

Yeah

And then the grenade throwback is there for people who are paying attention

[gray glade]

plz no

learn to aim your nades

instead of adding a trajectory

[midnight nimbus]

it's not a direct nerf on nade spam, it's just a massive increase to its opportunity cost

[stoic breach]

Imagine grenade trajectory for incendiary grenades

Oh my god

I would love that

[midnight nimbus]

why waste it on spamming when you have the opportunity to use it effectively

tbh, i think grenade throwback is dumb

grenades are for flushing people out

[indigo kelp]

Well also bear in mind the majority of players are idiots and encouraging them to “aim” their grenades is like telling them the Boys at rifle is op

[stoic breach]

I like the grenade throwback cause not many people know about it

[midnight nimbus]

whether that's through killing them or making them run away

also it's really fucking buggy

[stoic breach]

I havent had any problems with it so far

[gray glade]

maybe its just me but i find nades being kind of easy to aim as it is

i use impact nades tho, so easier to hit

[indigo kelp]

I like the grenade throwback because I can throw them at my teamates

[stoic breach]

Like, not enough people know about it that it stops flushing people out

I just use incendiaries

Always work 100% of the time

[midnight nimbus]

yeah when it does work I just throw them at my teammates

[indigo kelp]

^^^^

[stoic breach]

I like killing people with their own grenades

[gray glade]

^

[midnight nimbus]

I like how BF4 has a decently lengthy delay between the incendiary hitting the ground and igniting

[stoic breach]

I dont TK cause its more fun to troll enemies

[indigo kelp]

Play baseball with the grenade and a mate

[midnight nimbus]

gives people a chance to run away

[stoic breach]

Boys trolling enemies is ultimate satisfaction for me

[hoary condor]

People rarely use the 'Interaction' button with grenades

[indigo kelp]

how do you boys troll enemies?

[hoary condor]

just buy using the gun

[indigo kelp]

[gray glade]

throwing back nades has become so instinctive to me i accidentally try doing it in other games lol

[stoic breach]

You run into enemies indoors and hipfire them with the Boys AT

Or you lean around a corner and catch someone off

[midnight nimbus]

anyways, idt the solution to grenade spam is nerfing them into oblivion. I'd rather start with ways to make the game less passive and zergy and encourage people to use their grenades more intelligently first

[indigo kelp]

You can also shoot nades but that’s tricky

[stoic breach]

Passive spotting and counter spotting would do that well

[gray glade]

agreed kht

[indigo kelp]

Yeah agreed

[stoic breach]

Forced scope on the Boys and rainbow glint to allow Recons the ability of area denial with just their presence

[indigo kelp]

Past grenade nerfs only resulted in buffs later on

[midnight nimbus]

as far as grenade trajectory goes, i think the biggest impact would be on new players

[gray glade]

can you throw back a nade that is thrown back to you?

like tennis

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[indigo kelp]

Yes

[stoic breach]

You can

[indigo kelp]

It’s hilarious

[gray glade]

i dont get nades thrown back at me

[midnight nimbus]

newer players default to nades bc they don't feel confident with their gun

[modest flame]

is firestorm dead? finding games takes for fucking ever

[stoic breach]

Imagine Titanfall grenade cooking with grenade trajectory in BFV

That would be fucking hilarious

[midnight nimbus]

and grenade arc is just a learning curve

i'd rather show new players that they have the opportunity to use grenades intelligently

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

also fuck grenade cooking

[indigo kelp]

Add grenade cooking to BFV
Noobs blow themselves up not knowing you can cook them

I’m down

[stoic breach]

Its dumb but its funny to get kills with

[midnight nimbus]

the point of grenades is to at least give the enemy a chance to get out

[stoic breach]

I dont agree with it but I cant help but use it in Titanfall 2

[midnight nimbus]

instant death with no feedback sucks

that's why sniper rifles have glint

[stoic breach]

Thats basically how tank camping goes though

[indigo kelp]

They have some glint

[midnight nimbus]

at least tanks are huge

[gray glade]

i think nades should also be a bit of deterrent of standing in groups

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

and you know when they're pointed in your direction

[indigo kelp]

Lighting still has serious issues, especially indoors on sunny maps that are pitch black when it’s light outside

[midnight nimbus]

I like how BF1 starts the grenade timer from the instant it touches the ground

so it's consistent

[pale sapphire]

abc

[stoic breach]

Yeah the smart grenade thing was nice

[midnight nimbus]

in every scenario, when you see a frag hit the ground, you know how long you have to run

[indigo kelp]

The Improvised grenade though

[midnight nimbus]

yeah that was annoying af

[gray glade]

the gas nades in BF1 was so cancerous though, i hope we dont ever get those back

[indigo kelp]

They can’t add them because of gas mask cosmetics

[stoic breach]

Yeah gas grenades just sucked if you were on low health and someone threw it outdoors and you were indoors

[midnight nimbus]

encourage better grenade use + return to BFH strength pls

[stoic breach]

You would get wallbanged by gas

[gray glade]

what strength were they in BFH

[midnight nimbus]

if you don't WASD out of there, you deserve to git fukt

BFH nades were mini nukes

[stoic breach]

Halo CE plasma grenade

[midnight nimbus]

not necessarily in radius

but if you're near one, you're fucked

[indigo kelp]

I used throwing knives, I had them gold

[solid hinge]

I just want... the random crashing to stop... last patch has ruined stability for me

[indigo kelp]

Throwing knives were ass in BFH but I mean they were one hit kill and gold so

[gray glade]

i have 0 crashing tbh

and no stuttering either

i dont know what i did right but i like it

[solid hinge]

I have even reinstalled the game, what more does it want!

[indigo kelp]

My game crashed once and I have mo stuttering

[solid hinge]

I cant even pinpoint what causes it to crash. Plane carpet bombs me while theres tons other explosions? im fine. Squadmate spawns on me? crash

[indigo kelp]

But I just bought a new (used) Xb1 x so idk how the issues fair otherwise

I’m a console peasant so I wouldn’t know

[stoic breach]

Haha

Same

[indigo kelp]

As far as I’m concerned consoles are relatively safe from crashing

And I mean I have an Xb1x so it has the best processing power to date for shitbox

[gray glade]

consoles in theory should make it easier to optimize and keep stable

because everyone using hte same hardware

[indigo kelp]

Also love to my fellow console neanderthal Razen

[stoic breach]

Hahahahaha

[indigo kelp]

Xbox ftw

Not really but my account is 7 years old so I can’t swap over and loose it all

[solid hinge]

i think i might see a problem, geforce for some reason switched the raytracing from Medium to Ultra 😡

[indigo kelp]

[solid hinge]

Lol I just went through Origyn and just realized there was a section for friend request.

I feel bad for people I never added back

[oblique wave]

Does the game prioritize the client side ping of default guns to make it easier for new players? Those are the only guns I still get one framed by, and it happens every time

[green elm]

daily countdown to panzerbusche

[tawdry arch]

How many days until end of chapter?

[gray glade]

7-8 days or something?

yeah june 27 is new chapter

[hoary condor]

8 days

[tawdry arch]

Doesn’t ToW finish in a couple days?

[gray glade]

this weeks tow ends tomorrow i think

and brand new chapter 1 week after that

[solid hinge]

there is a week's break before chapter 4 starts

[ionic oriole]

Nice

[tawdry arch]

Ah yes there’s a week of nothing between chapters

[woven lake]

some person on the ea forums i don't know is a dev or whatever said this to me after i shows the screnshot off the store that has default hair

For the time being, only the AKA gas mask (Allies) will allow your characters, man or woman, to have that default hair.

Hannah is the only other character with (head) hair; Seamus is rocking a pretty slick mutton chop beard as well

[ruby zealot]

could u guys tell me what is the periscope thing is the zooming tool of sniper or wth is it??!

[gray glade]

Do you mean the spotting scope?

its like a binocular but with only one "glass"

you can use it to spot tanks, infantry and planes and stuff

[dark solstice]

Who's ready for the pacific?

[gray glade]

MEEEE

[ruby zealot]

@gray glade i got a mission that perform 10 periscope spots assist 😕

[dark solstice]

thats pretty easy, just go up on a hill or tower and spot everyone

[gray glade]

yeah its not hard

[ruby zealot]

@dark solstice i did it wasnt counted!!

[gray glade]

especially on breakthrough

or airborne

that thing was bugged before

i think that it didnt show progress

but if you get 10 it should give you the OK for completing it anyways, at least i think so?

[solid hinge]

You have to get spot assists

So a teammate has to kill the person you spotted

[dark solstice]

a spot assist is when you spot someone and they.. yeah

ayla explained it

[ruby zealot]

@solid hinge i do that with any weapon not necessary be a sniper weapon right?

[gray glade]

i think you're supposed to use the spotting scope

the gadget

it will spot them to your team, like you could do in BF1 and BF4 etc

[solid hinge]

@ruby zealot you dont kill them, you spot them, a teammate kills them

[ruby zealot]

@solid hinge ik i did ds many spotting with Gewehr sniper, it didnt work out?

[solid hinge]

You said it was an assignment with the spotting scope

You have to use the spotting scope

[ruby zealot]

@solid hinge i will try it and tell u about the result and yes im trying to get Lebel model 1886 sniper 😣

[solid hinge]

oh heck it's bf1?

[dark solstice]

then you need the trench periscope

[solid hinge]

Yeah

Spot people through that

Should work smoothly