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Yes but it's not the best choice
It has a small clip
mag
Tbh I prefer the ribey
Im goinf full left on the stuka b2
It feels much nicer
bfv suad 1 for any game mode
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full left b2 is like a poopy mk1 blen
does anyone have any tips for getting 1 shots with the martini henry i keep getting 99s and 87s
also 98s
headshots
get closer
........what if you have no skill
but ill try that
also how exactly are you aiming for headshots cuz u have the sight do u want to put rectangle on head or the blocky part near bottom of rectangle
its less 'get closer' and more 'be in the correct range'
i havent played bf1 in a while but i remember each sniper having its own kill range
Ę
hi i am new
hi new im dad
Oof
😳
Is there any video that explains bullet drop on BFV?
Experience urself
Sniping was easier in BF1 than here
Great I know PC is superior specially for Battlefied. Dont worry I'm on Ps4 so I cant blow your head off
part i dont like with sniper in bfv is the dont loose their aim when geting shot
I like the you have to un-aim to put one in the chamber
Ban snipers
Nah

would like if sniper had to hold their breath

then release and they cant hold it again for a second or 2

Shhh
I thought it was like that already
BF1 was like that?
im talking bfv
not sure
Probably I'm mistaking with Sniper Elite
it could be bf1
lately it seems they want to make the game more open and accesible
every patch soldier get more and more visible
start to wonder whats the point of wearing camo gear
when it launched you could use proper camo and the shadow at your advantage but people where complaining
yeah outpost is nice
just wish we have a bigger selection of map
post are getting constantly hit with artillery strike
rather not spam in the middle of it
soon this one is over if im not wrong
I assume next week Chapter 4 starts
Someone said they do an Off-week before next one
Ironically, several people complained about that
Just saw the trailer. June 27th is chapter 4
no matter what they do everyone will complain lol
soon the private server return it will make life easier for sure
I have a compain tho. I miss spamming the Spot button
wonder if anyone actually play multiplayer with rtx on lol
i have a problem
i have racon level 20
and still have weapons lucked
level 10/ 13/16/20 still lucked on
what to do to unlock them the game is bugging or glitching idk what's going on
i have 5 weapons level 10
yup i run everything ultra at 3440x1440 steady 120fps
look amazing
its a bug next patch will fix it
@solid hinge they acknowledge the problem
just hang out there
@steel trout I miss my PC, but gorgeous on Ps4
so i just need to wait then
yup,it suck but you wont loose anything ,you will log one time and everything you did will appear
pc is nice but not cost effective
so in ps4 its not
It is from I have read
pretty amazing when you think about it that you can play game like this on a console
It is
someone would have told me that back when i was playing 1942 and i would have call them idiot lol
I remember when BF4 on Ps3, conquest mode had from A to D, PC and ps4 had A to G I believe
future of gaming kinda worry me
Why
so many gaming company have lost touch with reallity
run by investor not understanding what making a game sell
True
maybe im just getting to old
You probably are
Companies need investors to fund them, then the money spent by the investors need to be made back in profit
It gets really shitty sometimes but thats business
Indie games pick up the slack where AAA has left off
Oi, I need some help. I unlocked a new gun yesterday and it still says I can't equip it, can anyone help?
the best we can hope for is that at least some of them still care about gaming, which is extremely unlikely sadly
Since AAA needs to sell and Indie is more about the individuals running the small time
Well they all have their place
release like bfv at launch i think its bad marketing
Its a bunch of things
Bad marketing, gameplay not being good enough for long time players
why is team balenceing so bad

I played 11v28 Narvik BT today and it was my best game of the day
my team lost
but still got to farm
bc less teammates to take my kills 🤤
you should be able to switch teams if the other team has a lot more players
If the game was more fun there wouldnt be so much farming
But alas
Indestructible tanks are always hard to pass up
i think if people stop doing preorder
it would improve most of the game at launch
i find bfv fun,not perfect buy im enjoy playing it for sure
Preorder is just bad if you dont know what the game will be like
I wouldnt preorder a singleplayer game incase it only goes for like 4 hours
I stopped preordering battlefield. Always goes on sale on Black friday
Yup. Luckily I got mine as a present
got it with my 2080ti
love mine exept now i have to install a damn ac in my living room because of it
Lol I feel you
My room was always hot
Had my PC, ps4 sometimes and my brother playing xbox in the corner
It got hot quick
lol
> If the game was more fun there wouldnt be so much farming
bruh
what is BF without farming
that's what it's always been
kinda scary whhen i look my cpu and it draw 190w at full load
Hated it how it was run in BF1, you dont unlock your gun. You can just buy which ever you wanted
they are supose to release pack soon
doing exactly that again sadly
Then, further on in the spring, players will be able to purchase XP boosts or “Tier Catch-Ups,” which allow players to acquire Chapter Reward items without slogging through the gameplay necessary for them. Those reward items typically include cosmetics, but also deliver weapons.
Tank farming doesnt look as cool as infinite healing frag-hunting suomi medic 
@steel trout in BF1 you didnt need actual money. The coins you got from playing
And its debatable for me. If everything until next BF is free then they have to make money some how
true
They were supposed to make money from cosmetics but not enough people are buying them
It would've been better to do premium weapons and cosmetics and make the maps free probably
That's why I dont mind them doing cosmetics
I dont mind either but they arent making enough money i dont think
latest BFV patches have fucked performance so bad
I can't even play infy even if i wanted to
? run fine for me
Probably they are. I think of it like fortnite. People are bound to buy the skins even if they only use it for one match or so
I've played a few rounds just to mess around and tank but haven't touched BFV otherwise
This is y I stuck to bf1
oh my fps shows a steady 100+
Frostbite must be a bitch to work with
Kht if you wanna play a game that works I'll 1v1 you in xcom

even my frame time stay quite steady
not that i want to play BFV for anything but tank cheesing
if i wanna sweat as infy, there are better games for it
I fell back in love with BF4
and I'll tolerate shitty maps and meh gunplay for an overall superior game
I've been playing shit on my ps4 instead of BFV lately cause its not that fun without people to play with
i like bf1 cuz its a high graphic game and amazing gameplay that my potato laptop can handle without blowing up
How active is Bf1?
for standard servers its empty
bf1 gameplay is harder over all
BF1 gunplay was ultimately too hard for the community 😞
@solid hinge and operation is better
sad days
I try to tolerate RSP to play BF4
just dont use quickmathc
server seeding just wastes my time
excuse my spelling
and gun/gadget bans make me sad
BF1 was easy though
BF1 RSP is at least tolerable bc i know what to avoid
I liked BF1, just not the gun progression
?
BF1 RSP is just hardcore or extra damage servers
or the occasional bolt actions for every class
the aim settings was good
some what true
choosing to aim near or far
Custom servers here were just mixed servers
BF1 still has official servers 😋
Not active here unfortunately
there is plenty of servers that arent hardcore or banned
you just have to look and fav them
i have about 3 that i play on mainly
conquest and tdm mainly
I'll tolerate 100+ms EU ping just to play small mode BF1
i have 12 ping in usa took me a long time to find such servers tho
100+ ping in BF1 wasnt bad, but people took 8 shots to kill alot of the time
Really bad for my M1912
hello! I saw that the game was recently added to the Origins Access vault, the cheaper version. Was wondering how much cheating goes on, if any, in the game.
I stopped playing Battlefront 2 coz of the cheating, that's why i ask
battle field 1 ?
Battlefield V
ah
Cheating?
aimbots, cheatengine cheap mfers who cant play for the life of them that they need to ruin others' experience for their own fun
I feel like there's nothing more I want to accomplish in BFV
as for bf1 "script kiddies" on custom servers i have yet to find 1
well actually have seen one in the past month
already more or less mastered peak tank cheese
but everyone basically cussed him off the server ¯_(ツ)_/¯
man even BF4 had less braindead gunplay
true
and that's a pretty low bar
hmmm prolly wasnt a cheater then, cheats dont care
I've already employed every ridiculous cheap and cheesy tactic out there in BFV
like
what more do i do
when i was learning words i didnt know
you're bad, but not that bad
okay, based on 3 players and a few more comments, im convinced cheating isnt a problem and will be looking forward to installing BFV
matt
yes
cheating isn't that bad in BFV anymore
based on what i see in bf1
bc not even hackers want to play it anymore
THATs EXACTLY what we said for battlefront LOL funny how we thought the same
back when NA at least had a ton of Breakthrough servers to select from, hacking wasn't rare
ppl dont even know what battlefront is anymore
haven't run into one in a long while
battlefront was fking epic
last hacker i saw i just continuously Pz4 cheesed into submission
agree on the "was"
yea
yeah, im hopeful when gaming becomes more like Google's Stadia, cheating will no longer exist
vpn tho
ideally you also have good game design where cheating isn't that effective 🤔
true
aimbot and continuous magdump only get you so far in BF1
a game where improper shooting really sucks
meh, when u deal with numbers on a computer, there will always be a way to modify them in memory or in a server
even with perfect aim and recoil control, spraying at the face really isn't very effective
i used to play a game that had 1 shot kill snipers to any part of body and there was something called a hacker wall where u would make your own server and u controlled it if a hacker joined u could put him in this room that can only be shot in not out
he would spawn there and continue to get killed
life
karma
idk
ah well, i just hope the community is a bit better than cheating
imma get both then bf1 and bfv
im okay dying every 5 seconds as long as it's not to a hacker
when was the last time you prayed to doge the almighty and RNJesus
thats what i thought
do those things and youll be good
good luck and 07
i gtg to bed
huh
Ello
yay dice is going to fix the armory
How so?
Do you mean the game end report
not they armory tyhe end of game my bad
Oh
Considering we have a few Italian guns, what if DICE can add the Breda M30
Basically an LMF
LMG*
i just want them to fix the armory
I want the Armory to not be limited choice
Hey remember we could buy uniforms in the Company section where you change your character appearance. And some only costed like 3000-4000 CC?
its still here?
Haha I wish
Nah EA was like okay guys we add premium currency and raise the price higher for CC on uniforms that they could’ve bought in the Appearance section

but you could buy uniforms with cc in the in the company section
Tbh, who really cares about the customisation
yeah you cant see yourself
Plus everything is very similar
If you had heaps of random stuff you could wear I'd be all for it
and you can change camo too for free
All I want is the good ol modifications in the weapons and tanks. Like in battlefield 4
skill tree?
Not a fan that much
I don't like that the skill tree punishes you to start with quite a lot
Yeah
Especially in the vehicle section where you have 3 trees and some most of them are locked behind that could be useful
Damn it nostalgia hitting me from battlefield 3 and 4
I didn't even know about bad company being turned into a tv series
Wat
did they actually announce a cancellation for it
Never heard
Fox apparently were going to do it
I am already saving for the Next battlefield
same lmao
Because o know it's gonna be modern to tackle COD MW
I know
I just want MY VIPER Bac
bc2 remastered ;(
Theres a Battlefield inspired web series by Corridor Digital but I havent seen it so idk if its good or not
Remaster won't be good as the maps are too small for today's standards
is there any way to get cc other than shipments
Small maps are good in Battlefield
Anyone excited for New Metro
oh
Shipments? Tf are shipments?
I didn't get into battlefield through bf3 / bf4 but i wish i was
I played every battlefield since bad company 2
bf3 and bf4 look the same to me lol
I can tell u bf4 was in a Far bad state than BFV
Today
And Now BF4 is a legendary game
BF4 and BFV are/were bad for very different reasons
Makes me for cheerful for having bfv then
how do you get cc other than shipments
BF4 was fine by NS
And Dragons teeth was about to launch
BF4's problem was networking
it was still a fundamentally good game at its core
Network and harsh beginner experience
It used to crash after every 4 games
I own bf4 but only played it a few times
the BF4 core gameplay experience was never bad
like the mechanics were always more or less sound
especially vehicle gameplay
lol
It's crisp
console versions of the games years after the game came out is awful
yes the skill tree is the best thing ever
Dar better than 1
the only things i can praise BFV gunplay for are low base spread and a based spread formula
and good moving spread
but it's genuinely braindead as fuck
i dont like bf1
It lagged af on my rig
I love BF1 gunplay even though I hate how slow the TTK is
bfv doesn't look like a ww2 game
Bf5 lacks the atmosphere
But I gotta give it to BF1 the environment was way too realistic
I used to love the feel
Of being in a war
they're still adding more maps
War was never beautiful
Bf1 gunplay was easy as
It may look good. But it doesn't have the atmosphere
Yeh I know
You can make things look good but it needs to have a feeling.
So much fun to run around and take everyone out even if they got the drop on you 
But I love the environment in Panzerstorm during the Grandoperations
Yeah arras on fire feels like the end.
It looked real
I haven't been able to fly a plane in bfv
Arras on fire truly does feel like the end.
Panzerstorm 
I was just wondering what it would be like to fly through the smoke in arras
The start at night during Grandoperations in Panzerstorm looked like ww2
In my opinion
BF1 gunplay actually required you to let go of the trigger every once in awhile
and not at sperg rates like BF4
Bf1 gun play required you to actually learn to space out your rpm
BFV is just reeeeee magdump
With semi autos
and SMGs yeah
Cause sure you can spam fire your selbstlader
1916
But its gonna go all over the place
BF1 SLRs = jikaburst


So if you set your muscle memory up you go do - do - do - do
if you don't hit your 3 rounds to kill, stop and start again
Tbh I feel BFV has a much lower skill ceiling than BF1
You just set a consistent scenario. In bf5 its just shump shump shump in a rapid succession
The AR recoil change should've been more significant
Its still easy as fuck to magdump them
Yeah spread
you can't have spread get too high in BFV
They gave full autos horizontal recoil and expect us to learn that shit
Not to mention the massive first shot recoil
So you know
Nevermind
So because I haven't played in a long time, does the "practice range" or combined arms or anything have the trombono?
Cause I wanna learn that gun without sucking absolute balls in MP
Not at all
I played one round yesterday and went 1:8
First round in 6 months and felt like crap
Actually. If i remember correctly. Faster ADS speed and greater moving accuracy is LL
I know its personal preferance
Na it's right, checked it yesterday
Good?
You know the way
👌
And fuck now that meme is impanted in my head
Ooof
Loading the range up
Thanks mate
No worries
I wish we could select what vehicle to choose not be confined to presets on the range.
I do wonder if i'll be able to disable bombers
In rsp
Rps
The combined arms just coop single player without custom weapons?
Ffs
They straight up abandoned the range
Literally haven't updated it since release then
And this is why I haven't played it in 6 months
Its like. If they allowed us to load in with our own classes, our own vehicle and are own planes we wouldn't be so pissed with it.
Exactly
That was my thing from the start
Just make it the exact same spawn system as MP
We may be complaining too much. But thats cause we're frustrated at simple fucking things that could have been done.
Ye
I find I spend most of my time talking about BFV complaining
I don't recall doing that with Bf1
Except for the heavy bombers 
You know. Thank you for the maps and weapons that are coming out at a slow pace. But good lord they fuck up everythint else.
Dont forget how buggy this game is.
Sure games are due to run in to bugs.
Bug look at bf1 to this. I barely even noticed bugs on bf1.
Each patch didnt break the game in some new form.
And manic. You know what would be extremely simple to all of this? Take a good guess.
@stoic breach if spread is too high, you get a really unpleasant experience in BFV
bc spread to recoil conversion
Oh ok
no worse than that
if you had magdump spread levels in BFV similar to BF4, you would probably get nauseous
God damn
so the spread formula got reworked to make a logarithmic curve that flattens out after 6 or so shots
Dont they have that system where the bullets can spread independently of the camera or whatever
What was that camera thing then
im so broke
I dont really mind it that much
how am i suppose to get cc
Play the game
it said i got 1800 cc one game but guess how much i have
We really need a CTE
Well the game right now is basically a CTE
how do i get cc without the shipments

how?
Sturmtiger needs ap mine launcher
how do i get cc without it getting lost
Are you max rank
no
it says that i got cc but in reality im broke
Try restarting the game if you haven't already
There's a LOT of issues with syncing that are resolved that way
Cant wait for this chapter to end and so we get some new content
i at least want dice to acknowledge the issue
Content, in my BFV?!
Wish maggy mg was hand held
I won't hear such blasphemy 
Hhaha
Since you havent played for a long time
There are new weapons
But im guessing you'll properly come back when the rank increase is in effect right?
@median forum, you just need to play and/ordo assignments..
I'm at 300k cc atm
The only reason why im playing is so that i dont miss out on anything.
I come back every now and then to buy the new weapons
Fair
But when i do assigment i dont get the cc
I've got 130k sitting there that I just use for that
I prefer to use the default clothes and a hat
I keep on wasting cc on cosmetics
Ah
i waste my cc on weapon specializations that i would never use
I have every single piece for my fg42
Also Ingrid best gurl
Hana best girl
i thouht ingrid was a dude
No she don't
She's just very manly
On fg42
alot of the female soldiers look the same
That's why Ingrid is so good
Oh manic. Use the fg42
why would people pay cc to get dirt on their face
Get it. Its so good.
A good lmg for levelling up is the bren
Or lewis
I am looking forward to the new german elite.
Really didn't like the support in BFV
Guys it was 100 - 99 outpost we won dads
i just noticed i never got the weekly airlift
No wonder you don't like bfv.. you playing as a sniper all the time.. figures..
Aggressive sniper with the 1906
Hey manic. Can you please send a picture of mind.
My ass..
Reminds me of the Bf1 medic days
i paid $8 for deluxe just to not get the weekly airlift
Can i still get my hands on the Boys AT rifle?
yes
@topaz atlas just buy it
It's not there 
look in the anti material rifle
Does it work if i try it ingame?
I bought it from the list in company @topaz atlas
is it normal to make everyone in your company look the same

I'll have to mess with it next time i play
Literally everyone is Ingrid or Beautrice for me
i hate support
Yeah I'm not a fan
I very rarely play with mmg's.
i hate being kill by a support at like 200 meters away
Tbh I wasn't a huge fan of the BAR in bf1 even
Same manic
The parabellum though 
I got 2.5 K kills with the selbstlader 1916 and the parrabellum
My medic and support are 1000 points away from each other
Too
I honestly cant stick to weapons for that long. The fg42 is my most used weapon on battlefield overall.
I cant remember haha
But yeah
Yeah I cant stick to weapons for long
Haha yeah
I wanted to get 100 stars with the 1906 on BF1 but although I love that gun, it's a lot harder to use well than the Farquhar hill optical
Eh, I feel they'll ruin it like they did the 1906
Actually
I feel like the selby 1906 is much better
2HKO potential. Competes with the ZH
Not to me tbh, I love it and all but I miss the pure skill cannon of bf1
I understood its use but it was underpowered as hell
They should have buffed it to contain 10 rounds
Or whatever
Na, it was perfect as is tbh
Amazing ttk, accuracy and perfect stability, just low ammo count and long reload
I do remember the glitch where its reload speed was incredibly fast.
You would place a single bullet and then it would be cocked back
You could cut the reload in half by interrupting the second half by chucking a health pouch
If i would buff it then maybe i would increase its reload speed.
Ah
The c96 was weird
Thinking of it
Not a fan tbh
You would load 2 bullets
When it showed one
Am looking forward to the C96 carbine tho.
The lebel reload was really weird
Think i do understand it. Sorta. But eh. K bullets were the worst on it.
I had so much fun with the russian 1895 trench
It allowed me to be agro recon
I always agroed with recon
On 300% damage servers it was a force to be reckoned with.
In fact with any class
I got sniped by a shotgun a month ago
It was probably a glitch when showing me the weapon that did it
But getting sniped by a 12g Automatic is quite the thing
Dude i got a shotgun snipe from 86 meters away and it git for like 79
Them slug shots
It was awesome
Oh damn
Didnt even see the fucker
Slugs are real disappointing in bfv tbh
I understand there being a rifle feature for the M30
But being able to snipe with the 12g is a whole new level
Sad theres only shotguns for supports in bf5 😦
Very sad indeed
hmm.. there's not only shotguns for supports.. but ok
You can only have a shotgun as a support though
Or is my copy of BFV made in China
It probably is
hmmm there is only shotguns for supports ok @feral grotto
hate ls26 😐
Why?
I mean, you can get shotguns for any class if you pick them up 
best is a medic with a turner 
self loading rifles are awful..
No u
If you give medics SLR there'll be no range for assault
Cause assault should get smgs
Good 
Why would you not want to rush someone with explosives and thompson as an assault
Like in BF1
Assault smg is great
Exactly, that's why I find it wrong
And why I want to force myself to learn the trombono on medic to get my range back
Instead of a close and mid range option, assault gets two midrange options and medic gets close
I'm good with the tromboncino so I have no issues with it
But the De Lisle and tromboncino present interesting balancing changes that DICE could've done
Give medics ARs, and make the De Lisle an OHK within 10m
So that the De Lisle acts as a medic slug shotgun
Then the Tromboncino can be a nice long range weapon
Cause its already better than all the recon bolts
Also a meme nade launcher
Yes
ESB?
Rarely use the grenade launcher
But it can damage vehicles 
whats the best side arm thats not the revolver
i just want a pistol that goes with guns that cant hip fire well
1911
I am need of some help maybe someone here can be of assistance
Webley and M1912 are the only good sidearms
What you need help with
I have hit rank 20 on my scout class and my progression seems to say I’ve unlocked the kar98 and the mastery assignment
but they aren’t there
Weird
Wrong
is there any quick fix to the issue?
Cant help with that. Go to ea help and they should.
Oof
there is no quick fix, its a known bug now, the only fix is through ea help
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Danke
yvw
The ruby would be great but the revolver exists to ruin every sidearm other than it
That revolver is just so frustrating, every scouts second main
Back in BF1 you had to decode morse to get a revolver that packed that kind of stopping power
damn
The peacekeeper wasn't as good as the mark IV in BFV
so boring without challenges
I honestly think the revolver should be a consistent 2HKO
It had way more dropoff
Not a ohko to the head
I used the mark vi extensively in bf1. It certainly felt a lot less BS.
Yeah i guess
Probably worsen the hip fire thats what i would do
The mark IV in BFV also should never have been buffed so much
All it needed was the 3hko range increased and that's it
That’s a good point, it’s only competition is somewhat the M1911
And the m1911 is at least decent.
The S&W that was datamined looked nice
Well I still love the ruby but it's a pale shadow of the tachenpistole
I have used the m1911 since launch and its made me despise the revolver pricks even more.
Makes miss my love 
Well the revolver is consistent and it has a higher DPS than bolt actions so why not use it
The Webley in BFV isnt OP either but everyone uses it
It felt and looked awesome but I got it and it was balanced
I just loved the fast fire rate pistols
Yeah I always used the Frommer Stop
All except the Frommer
Bruh
I loathed that thing tbh
Well I played Recon alot
The one less bullet got me killed so damn often
Because I mained medic with the tachenpistole
Silenced 1911 was alright
I used the No.3 revolver cause I had a nice skin for it
1911S just had hype factor about it
Its just satisfying to use suppressed weapons
I had basically every legendary skin by the end of bf1 
Oh yeah
I think I used the luger on snipes
And did quickswaps
I used it just because of the look tbh
How would we balance the other pistols.... Just more damage simply.
obrez pistol is king tbh
We need that
balance other pistols by not making the revolver do 100fkn damage headshots
obrez was essentially an unwieldy pocket shotgun and god was it beautiful
There were some very fun weapons
Pocket sniper
I would rather be killed by some one wielding the obrez than some asshole with a revolver.
That did 100dmg in close range
I gotta go shopping...

👌
Medics with sawed off shotgun as side arm 
Medics with HE noob tubes for vehicles

Medics are so useless against any sort of armor
What are your thoughts on the new mab38 is it good average or bad
It's good!
I wish you didnt have to bust out the trombone to damage vehicles with medic
And I really wish the improved grenade spec didn't replace fast cycling
The only weapon I use is the MP28 I wouldn’t know
I cant use the capuccino lol
MP28 ftw
Its hard
Mp28 is solid
To use smh
I have it gold
Sten is my favorite
The Trombone is a difficult one
I like the mp34
Definitely have to play more defensively
Just throw on recoil specializations and the MP28 is fine, as for carbines with the medic that makes no sense
I go hip fire for the mp28
Why is the mg30 classed as an mmg
Pistol Carbines should have been given to Medics
Thats stupid
MG30?
Mg34
Yeah mg30
Mg30
It has a 30 round box mag

Bf5 chief
^^
It just aint in the game yet
Its coming in a couple of weeks
Chapter 4 week 2 I believe
Its called 1S-S600 or something in the game files
something's wrong with the mosquito...
how can 4 250's do less damage than spitfighter 2 250's..?
Cuz logic

Enemy team: half team rage quit mid game cuz bad
Remaining enemy team: "Nice balance dice"
Me: 
I dunno
They're basically worse smgs
The po8 carbine is basically a semi auto smg like
They just aren’t scout material at all
Eh
Plus that class already has semi-automatics, bolt actions AND anti material rifles
I like the idea of giving scouts something else than a sniper
Does scout really need 4 weapon categories?
Like you could run an ar with recon in bf4
The AT rifles are basically better bolts
The SLRs are worse semi autos
Fuck I just wish Assault had SMGs and Medics had Assault Rifles
That switch up is just... No
The p08 is a good fit for recon
I cant imagine it going better on any other class
They shouldve given them mab to recon
I wish that support got pistol carbines and that recon got machine pistols
Mostly because I just want machine pistol recon
Why would you use the p08 as support when any lmg exists
Still, Medics would actually be used if they had Assault Rifles
Smgs are a poor fit for medics :/
Yeah they're better for assault
Cause you dont want your medics to die first with the closest range weapons
They are so squishy so the backup of explosives makes sense
Yeah it doesnt make sense for an assault to carry a heavy gun with all the explosives
But a submachine gun and a bunch of smoke grenades 
Thats why panzergrenadiers would have an mp40 as well
AR and smoke grenades would be great
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