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DOgtags
I dont work for Dice
the dice friends
I have dice fren
YES
holy shit
and not "YOU HAVE THAT"
i'm done with you
what one is the shell looking fire V with the star.
i will smack you lego car
I dont have crap beside ToW and Class one
im slacking on emblems
Has this been posted yet?
https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-5/news/battlefield-v-outpost-mode
yes
so... 1-0 me
i'm keeping the same team thats why
Outpost does sound like fun.
2 days off... 
going to play so much!
No advertising
GG
i believe you can try #streams-and-videos
@void ingot Soon, when I’m on my laptop at least.
Marita?
have you seen the new trailer? Check #game-news
Yea i watched it yesterday on e3 its beautiful i believe
did the fix the glitch where a flag shows up as Numbers and not a name or objective?
on the 3rd defense line right before the final defense
Doubt it's been fixed yet, probably due on Thursday
im hyped for the tractor we can drive on Marita
Bet a challenge gonna be get 1 roadkill with that tractor
it aint much but its honest work
just boigth it
think it's a fun addition
won't provide much siupport unless you can attach the Pak 40 too it? 
@lunar lionI hope you saw what I wrote to you in private messages
so why @ them here?
Mercury maybe my best map
i want a tractor army
imagine 32 angry farmers with guns charging you in breakthrough
Panzerstorm for tractors 
same
where can i find help with my game?
heard it here firsst
tractor mode
Tractor Mk4 
?
where can u play bf 1
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i never win anything lmao
it's always worth the effort
get sturmgewher 1-5 fully golden first or gewher 43?
g43
g43
the 20 headshot will be annoying but i got selbslider and M1A1 fully golden allight
time to rage and drink apple cinnamon tea


attacking or defending, you know where the players are going too be
spamming PIATS? on objectives 
No as it's a g43...
i know but thats what most people do
Or just remove the bipod so they have to rely on hipfire lul
Anyone down to squad up on PS4 to play grand ops or combined arms ?
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@solid hinge try there
@scenic beacon will do
So, how come all the PC Conquest lobbies are empty...? I can't find a game (east coast)
Probably a bug.
I’m sure the community of Battlefield V is not empty for PC on East Coast.
Considering the millions of people there
Evidently, I used the advanced search option and found some lobbies. There's definitely a bug with the matchmaking system.
playing vs a wall hacker and aimbotter
im 22 and 5
xd
and its only the start of the game
nae nae
when you're so low level you play the objective
have they fixed the stuttering yet?
@hoary condor im not currently playing bf5, does that boy sniper kill in 1 shot?
1 shot body or head
thats a good question
i just said body or head cause it doesn't specify the limbs
when we die
but i wonder if i get shot in the pinky toe by the Boys, if its all she wrote
I wouldn't expect the game to register a headshot, when you get far enough.
that "ping" noise is a headshot
Just shoot in the general direction. You might get the gods of RNG on your side
No rng if you're good enough 🌚
Random number, g
ah i see
👽
ive mos def have shot through bushes or smoke and had Lord Gunter on my side
i like the 2 for 1 kills
its like they were both perfectly in my sights
there's a few of yall in discord i want to run a server with one day
oh, the most bs thing i did with the boys was 2 consecutive shots where each bullet killed 2 people on mercury
I have one already. But I have like 18 people on it.
Mercury a fire map
im glad im playing it within the rotation
i havent got tired of it yet
Conq or whatever mode has the 3 rounds
ive been grinding lately, trying to finish this Tides
i want that Fire Rake
Same
NO boins
Yup i think its grand ops
Lul I remember when BF4 Conq was full of people with SPG's spamming the close quarters
With the 3 different modes?
yea its like, conq, breakthrough and frontlines or some shit
Yes
Lul
Sqaud Conq my shit
Me on the weekends
Because its 15 minutes
You mean outpost
i thought it ends 6/20?
we got a long grind ahead Tavi
grand ops is good for TOW
@sonic rampart what's good with some reps later?
i see you're EU and on PS$
PS4*
well it may be tricky, because we're like at least 6hrs apart in time but yea lol
Last day for the G 1-5 Camo tday?
the challenges usually end on thursday
No, i think we have a few more days
thursday 13th
the whole official battlefield server does not have 50 nitro boosters
cries in dun dun dun dun
Flares?
back up in yo ass with the resurrection
Same as the flares that recon has
Shoots two into the air
They spot targets
I think tank flares only spot targets for the people in the tank and their squad instead of the whole team but dont quote me on that
h
Oof
People are still playing the battlefield campaign?
no I'm just making up the frustration. its all pretending obviously
the enemies have fucking aimbot and the allies are useless
what even is the flare for on recon
i cant find a use for it besides blinding my teammates
that is what it's for
You shoot it into the air
Like an actual flare
And it 3d spots enemies within its radius

I never knew that made a lot of exp
It made the most
Cause it didnt for me
I swear
The matches ended very fast
Felt like full conquest match xp in 15 minutes
im at 39 need 80k
We're gonna have to bust this one down
God I hope outpost gives mad xp
Can get 108,500 k next week
without doing the firestorm one

Im not gonna do firestorm since it takes more time
im trying the honouring the past assignment to see if the xp works for tow
In the Same time I can make more tow exp
BF1 the aussie dude
Brutality
That aussie Dude died by artillery?
nah
he survived it but was wounded
ah true
Oi m8 friendly fire is on

So if 1 game of grandops gives you 19-20k but Lets say 18k since ye you get screwed over.. and it takes 45-50 minutes, so 47,5
244600exp/18000exp= 14 matches, which takes like 12 hours 
but waiting for matches etc takes 1 hour aswell so 13 hours 

When does Outpost come out
I'm only at 27 on TOW
2 day from now
Outpost drops this week
Thanks I didn’t know when
Anyone down to play some BF on pc?
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Sorry 😛
Advanced search
gamemode Breakthrough
joins Breakthrough on Panzerstorm
Map changed during join
Rush on Arras
GO need to be reworked
Advanced search
gamemode Breakthrough
joins Breakthrough on Twisted Steel
Major Defeat 1/3 sectors taken
1st day needs to have a huge impact on the rest of the days
when are new maps coming out?
ok thank you
Np
Gonna leave my pc on for the night
that should change
so what is the outpost gamemode? Is it pvp? pve?
Why am i not getting my campaign rewards?
which reward would that be Toast?
The melee weapons and then the tank skin?
The ones you get after getting all the letters and challenges
the tank skin thing is bugged, sometimes it doesnt give you the skin even though you did all that you should
but you can contact EA support and they can put it in your armory
once they see that you should have it
Yeah i emailed them about it as ”missing content” and they said that if i make a false claim they may need to suspend my gameplay or even close my account..
i would chat with them instead
its faster and they will confirm your identity by sending an email to the one you registered
Yes i Will probably to that tomorrow then! Thank you for helping me!:)
np gl 😃
I am so fucking hyped fir the Japan/US update
Excitement levels are almost as high as a new game. Cannot wait for the next few months of content #ThanksDice
anyone else has breakthroug problems
it just keep on repating the music
over and over
the whole game
it never ends
its really really annoying
i cannot play at all
is this new bug?
i have it since the newest update
no one gona talk about this?
I had that once, I think that sometimes the playlist or game lags and they just have a saved playlist
but why listen to the music while playing?
what do i do i have this bug for a week
WE ARE GETTIN IWO JIMA BOISSSSSS
CANT WAIT FOR THE US AND JAPAN FACTION
THIS FALL
the only thing im excited for
Same 👏
I just bought BFV for 23 $ instead 60$ due to the savings deal
Thats a w in my books
Also don't DM/mention the members from DICE or EA for your problems. If you have problems contact EA support. @solid hinge
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this is like the only time this map doesnt look like complete garbage
Anyone here playing bfv on PC ?
I used to play it but then I took an arrow to the knee. (Not enough content)
I play it a lot when there's actually stuff to do
Rn I'm just waiting for the next chapter to start
I'll play it when the new maps are in the game
Really don't feel like playing at all especially because I just hate the MMG/AT boy rifle campers.
finallly got all my classes to lvl 20
👏
I own the game since it came out and only played with assualt/recon/medic and like 5 games in total with support
Support is just so boring to play with

lmao holy shit fucking moron team on frontlines mercury ....
couldnt cap E 3 times in a row
and then let the enemy cap D twice...
now they just capped C because its too hard to either kill them or stay on the cap or use arty..so i had to leave
What’s going to happen when the pacific theater comes and there are white and black people fighting on the Japanese side
youre going to keep playing the game like you have been for almost a year by that point and not be moronic? 
Getting a deactivated Luger tomorrow 
when do you activate it? 
Never man don’t wanna go to jail 
is it an assault pistol? 
it’s a watergun
well probably for the best anyways...you might shoot yourself in the leg with it...ive seen how that turns out 
Outpost seems fun
im hiding in the closet under the stairs and this guy still cant work out hwere i am lol been here 10mins capping the flag
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
What exactly is outpost?
Protect raido towers and gain recruits
Recruits are just tickets tho
And you can build and upgrade the towers
i guess an easier way to explain it would be just interactive territories from Halo
or multiple reinforceable/interactable King of the Hill
Check #game-news for Outpost details
Not really BFV, but https://twitter.com/jaqubajmal/status/1138231531762266113?s=21
Oh I man I remember playing that one PS2
When the top squad is a bunch of dudes with scuffed outfits and random camos on their guns 

@formal valve good one
good reaction
and when i try and knife someone on BF4 im like to myself c'mere bitch
Howdy y'all
hi @devout heron
Turns out I was right
I would like more modes where you capture/ destroy objectives to gain resources / tickets
people are working in squads and it's annoying
that makes zero sense
there's this strange irony with Battlefield
Was listening to the random sound bytes of bfv voice actors and the all female death sounds legit sound like porn 
I think if we brainwash the community to all work in squads
then people will shut up
that is the only option
please support my patreon and my indiegogo to build a mind control machine
shoot rockets at it
where
the tank
when i shoot its vehicle hit 16, vehjicle hit 20, i try to do c4 on him and im death
you need to find weak spots on the tankj
the sides and engine are the most exposed
the turret has less armor as well
back is weakest
ideally you sneak up on it, dynamite it, throw anti tank grenade at the dynamite and then rocket it
shooting the back sometimes gives engine disabled
for the AT gun they should allow it so that if you were able to shoot in the tank barrel you can blow up the entire tank 😎
more urban maps like stalingrad
Is there a way to watch replays on console?
we need the periscope rifle
in BF5?
yes
and the fliegerfaust
if bringing the experimental chopper into firestorm in the other multiplayers why not add the other whacky irl ww2 guns that dident see much combat
yer but the chopper was used a little ina cual ww2
acual and so was a few of these whacky weps
when you call in a V-1 rocket on a large group of enemies and right when it goes into dive your game crashes 
Hey I need some feedback
I have outlined a rework of airborne which may or may not work, I need some feedback
please give some
It's quite a lenghty post so take your time
So. How is DICE gonna fuck it up this time?
what
BFV has been a trainwreck ever since launch and whenever DICE tries to fix one thing they break at least 3 other things.
BF1 was rather stable.
Yeah but you had plenty of posts complaining about the game being broken
2 and Bad Company 2 were quite solid as well.
Yes, but that game had the blessing of DICE LA after launch.
so does BFV
And now it's probably my favourite Battlefield game.
I mean, from what I see DICE LA are only doing the maps.
bfv bad 
Bf1 best tbh
bfv bad 
Who needs teamwork when you can solo the entire enemy team as inf
I like the BFV attrition - there's nothing wrong with BF1 / BF4's version but it's fine
I can deal with it
Battlefield V has a different atmosphere
In Bf1, you had the “horror” atmosphere that showed a dark side of war. Especially with the apocalypse DLC.
bring back airfields in bf
In BFV, you have this beauty atmosphere
That the landscapes are beautiful
Especially devastation, even though it’s destroyed, it looks amazing.
🤔
So stumpanzer flare only spots?
Bfv you get the atmosphere of prone mmgs
That’s their job in BFV.
Lmao.
That’s true.
BFV is a great game despite all that controversy.
Bf1 you get heavy bombers, elite kits and SMG 08s, but I'd still 100% prefer bf1
That’s your opinion
I do prefer BF1 in terms of elite kits.
Don’t we have heavy bombers already?
In BFV?
Nvm we don’t.
It’s just the bombers.
Heavy bombers will be great.
true even right now im seriously missing bf1
Heavy bombers from bf1 are satanic tbh
^
Like one of the cheesiest evilist things
im hoping that chapter 4 will be prosperous
If you use one I'll hold the biggest grudge
bombad jedi
32 bomb ju88 off the spawn killing half a conquest team was pretty evil
Everything worked smooth so far
@strong parrot yup, just as bad as heavy bomber in bf1, but thankfully you don't need to worry about that anymore
I always used the heavy bomber whenever my team is desperate
Like on the last obj in monte grappa operations
BF5 graphics are so good
If your team is desperate then use literally anything else tbh
prone mmgs are good

Who said prone mmgs are good
I swear boi
I love using MMGs as a run'n'gunner
dunno what to tell you
I always set up defenses too as a support since you can put them up so quickly
never liked the run n gun MMG
But then there are those campers who just sit there in a corner and doing nothing for their team but himself
meant they were larger mag Ak's
those exist in every game
just gotta deal with them
even in BF4
And that's why shotguns are a thing
They're soo good tbh
I'm not that MMG guy, trust me
@solid hinge
meant they were larger mag Ak's
if you want to have machine guns that aren't 1D bipod-only headglitch guns , just nuke their reactionary ability while standing
see: BF1 LMGs
BF1 LMGs were fine
I never understand the point of sitting in just one corner
Ik
just tweak time to minspread so it's proportional to mag size
Hmm yeah
smallmags hit minspread faster
the issue with MMGs in BFV isn't that they're good, it's that there's only one way to use them
But most of the time i usually fly
and there's no counterplay
Maybe be able to use them in bursts standing up?
can't suppress an MMG user at a distance to cut his DPS
with some form of accuracy
no, just give them reverse spread and slow ADS time
positive spread bursts makes them into assault rifles
reverse spread forces them to shoot 10 rounds and the first and final 4 will hit for a 5BTK
effectively doubling their time to kill while stnading
while keeping their 1vX DPS pretty good
that's why reverse spread is a smart mechanic for machine guns
BF1 gunplay was too big brained for the average milsim boomer, BF4 pubbie, and unskilled redditor
so it was scrapped in favour of uh
0 SIPS LMGs
and current MMGs lmao
And then there are those people who complain that shotguns are too op like bruh it's a shotgun what did you expect...
A kiss on the cheek by your mother
shotguns in bfv aren't even good
look at BF4
hawk 12G full choke flechette had 25m OHK
BF1 model 10 didn't even have 20 if i remember right
I've actually had good fun using shotguns in V
i think it was 16-17
you find so many people chipped below 100
it's why turner/MAS are so fucking good because they can hit people for 90 in 166ms
What do you guys feel about the Breda PG coming in?
Omg
HALVING their time to kill against a chipped target
Yes
i hope the breda goes unchanged from the data mines, it's the power creep this game needs
It's such a good weapon
hopefully all the other weapons can be brought up to its power level
I feel like it is
4-4 BTK is pretty wild
Burst weapon! 
makes it strictly better than Ag m42, you just can't miss
Ik
reverse spread works
Isn't bfv's thing the same thing though with MMG's?
Idk
you can attempt to use an mmg running but it has an extremely crazy spread
Just use mg42 lol
Also Model 37 Stakeout
that's not an ADS substitute
thoughts on that shotgun?
don't know what the numbers are
probably still sucks like every other non-Drilling shotgun
shotguns need to be returned to BF4 power levels
Tbh yes
But idk I've been having good fun with shotguns tbh
Still gunna rant about flight physics tho in V
You slow down waaayy to much when you turn doesn't feel right at all
But DICE is going the right direction after the turning rate fix
I think the idea of tank resupply stations are innovative but instead of slowly reloading your tank it should just instantly resupply you when you go near
also maybe supports can resupply them too with a special crate?
Honestly cuz tanks are too weak and not fun
it should just instantly resupply you when you go near
now
how about if you were smartly rewarded for disengaging and finding cover
instead of just rewarding people who camp a box?
regen objectively leads to more dynamic and creative gameplay as your positioning is not limited
tank resupply is a tedious fetch quest because you have enough ammo to not worry about it until you've gone 30-0 farming infantry
at which point you just go get more
regen stops tanks from going 30-0 as easily
take bf4/bf1 for instance: they can fire off all their main shells at max rof, someone can hear 6 max rof shots and correctly identity that the tanker has none left
and just rocketfuck the tank
with little resistance
that's situational awareness you can't get with the attrition resupply system
another way that attrition removes depth to appease the boomers ig
Like planes for instance you automatically resupply and tanks should do the same
well
for me the main problem is the lack of a anticheat
the attrition method makes the only viable tanking playstyle the "sit back and lob shells until you need to go play fetch" one
laughs in console
while the regen method keeps this viable while also making all the other playstyles like those including hit and run, aggression, and sustained fire viable
epic
player choice > "muh physicality"
post incorrect opinions below
That I think has to do because tanks are pretty damn slow all of the time
Lol
no it's also because they have to play fetch every 40 rounds
it's not just ammunition attrition, it's a factor of other things
Well tanks are slow in general...
i only play breakthrough with tanks and i camp very close to the box at all times
bc its the optimal way to go 60-0
minimum time spent playing fetch
Same but my friend was the one with 105K
Not me lol and he was recon the whole entire time
See the problem IMO isn't with attrition it's that it's too superficial right now - When you camp the ammo resupply points it's because there's no real timer for resupply, meaning you can just constantly sit there and keep on holding X to get an infinite stream of ammunition. The way to solve this would be to make it so that you can resupply when you reach the point, and then have a 30 second timer to force the player to get out there instead of having them sit at the box and camp all day. This, combined with stuff like faster movement speeds (tanks in Post scriptum move faster lmao and that's the same time period) and less strained turret rotation would probably fix the problems tanks have
DICE needs to improve their attrition system if they want to see it move onto the next game
Because some parts, as you said, are pretty broken
Hell no attrition needs to go
I'm used to alot of it from other games so I'm fine with it
but the system does feel quite broken
I hate it as a vehicle guy
The thing is I've seen people who play vehicles who like the system
The way to solve this would be to make it so that you can resupply when you reach the point, and then have a 30 second timer to force the player to get out there instead of having them sit at the box and camp all day.
you know
Just ugh going back and forth back and forth over and over again
this is what regen on a timer achieves
except it doesnt force you to camp a specific part of the map
and actually forces you to stop shooting
yeah I can see that
tank ammo regen:
requires actual positioning ✅
requires trigger discipline ✅
increases skill gap ✅
i don't see this as anything but a positive
But ngl it feels fine for planes, tanks is the problem tho just sayin
i give attrition a 0% chance of making it into the next game
^
it's pretty much universally hated among players whose opinions are actually taken into account
the boomers love it but that's because all the good players left
and sadly the good players are the ones who are going back to bf4/1
and not playing the new game
which means they're not buying cosmetics in the new game
I don't know what you mean by boomers tbh
which means the new gmae isnt generating money
I don't blame them
the people who think BF peaked in 2005
these mechanics tehcnically exist in other games - are the people who play those games boomers too?
It probably wouldn't even be that difficult to roll back attrition tbh
no, specifically the people who wnat battlefield to regress to its state a decade and a half ago
only peaked with mod support tbh, everything else was eh
it wouldnt razen
soldier health regen and tank ammo regen would solve a lot
i dont even mind current ammo counts that much for infantry
Who knows maybe BFV will get good once private games is implemented
it isnt as catastrophic as open beta was
RSP
makes games good
ahahahahaha
unless you can make no attrition servers
that would be based
That's the only reason why it somewhat stands up
The biggest problem I have with the whole regen shit is that its supposed to reward medics for doing their job, but medics are incapable of doing anything in BFV

Yeah lol
i played about 3 rounds of FH2
FH2 is a full on bf1942 overhaul antways
Arma more like $2000 investment into PC
it is not a fun game
FH2?
forgoten hope 2
Forgotten hope 2
Never heard of it tbh
It's a mod which adds a fuckton of new ww2 maps and factions
gotta give them credit for effort though
Because it shows
Project Reality was really fun tho
theres enough realism in real life, i want to have fun in a video game
"was"
and how many hours did you play
Honestly I just started getting into these games
PR is basically arma for people who can't run it
Why would you want bf to be a milsim tbh
I play squad more
Imagine you're trying to defend an obj and you see a tiny landship full of explosives heading towards you
which is that there are multiple valid ways to play the game
Yeah not even something like Insurgency has anything close to an intrusive system like attrition
Bf is VERY far from a milsim as it's made to be fun over realistic
and make it so skulldragging and tacticool crouch walking is the only viable option
The goliath mine is gunna be weird tho
epic

I don't want it to be a milsim
PR was basically its own game at that point
I like the systems I just think that attrition is sometimes unfairly hated
nobody wants it to be any slower than it already is
it's not that bad
And it’s not really milsim like arma
Although yeah the gimmicks like attrition are eh
Honestly BFV should just be like "fuck boomers" and just roll back attrition
Identiy crisis over
people are complaining about how you can spam it mid combat
you want to know how to fix that?
add regen that only starts when you're out of combat
EPIC
😆
As I said
removing attrition fixes another element of inconsistency in this bad video game
nice
I'm indifferent to all forms
just think people go at it too much
yes because you've never actually tryharded Tuaam
casual players don't care about attrition at worst
some of them think it's cool
but anyone who actually tries to do really well is only ever held back by it
never good to tryhard honestly
they suffer frmo the increased inconsistency in gunfights
Just heal with a pouch and put a med crate down
You heal 2x faster
Only go tryhard when you know you must carry your team.
they suffer from 40-shell tanks blasting all over the map from their camping spot by the ammo box
I always thought before launch that attrition was good tbh
they suffer from only being able to regen their health once if they aren't playing medic
And when you must carry you must be drunk.
they suffer from a feeling of being punished for playing aggressively
Cause it makes you relentless
I saw attrition as a way to stop hill humpinh snipers
because they lose health and their medpack for winning a gunfight

Well, eitherways whichever way is truly better
Instead we get hill jumping supports
it's up to DICE really
never good to tryhard honestly
only they'll remove it or keep it
so you htink people should be better off watching war movies than playing war video games
and IDK what they're really doing atm
i want to play to win
I dont mind the ammo attrition in comparison to health
But hey looking forward to al Sudan tho
yeah infantry ammo attrition isnt really an issue
health attrition is apocalyptically bad
vehicle ammo attrition is the real kicker
I've personally always hated health regen because I've come from the very strict FPS way of using medkits to heal
Actually. I wouldnt mind it on certain maps if there were more stations.
The biggest problem with health attrition imo is people see medics with infinite heals and say that should have crap guns for it
you "come from"
Yeah
doom is SP
Doom!
And then infinite ammo for support
not comparable
Doom multiplayer
half of the MP games I played had no health regen lol
you cannot directly compare pvp to pve
That has limited health
TF2, CS
CS is not comparable
Yeah I play medic alot because its the only class with consistent regen
And Boys recon cause the gun is a consistent OHK
The health regen thing isn't an original thing btw
you also get all your ammo back
that's from COD and halo
I dont mind regen health but i understand where Tuamm is coming from.
it's an industry trend
I play medic because regen + rezzes
it doesnt matter that it's original...?
I play support cause of infinite ammo.
those games embraced regen because it rewards players for disengaging
it's a good mechanic to allow for proactive play to not be punished unfairly as BFV does
Wish we could regen more
oof
Instead we get mining the health resupply stations 
Instead of 25 health just simply 35-40 and for the light soldier combat role. An easy 50-60 %
They could do a really quick fix by letting you pick up a health pack from an enemy when you kill them
^
Qctually
Yoooo
I know
But like as a quick fix
Well roze I think that you're fairly right for most of your points about Battlefield
Maybe rewards two health but also Kickstarts regen.
so I'll give that
you're trying to treat the symptoms of attrition instead of eliminating the disease itself
I would prefer if attrition wasnt in the game at all
Should've added full passive regen but really slow
I'm not disagreeing with you
You know. You're on 68 health. Then 70 then you'll start to regen to 100
Yeah. Maybe when "pushing" your health back it'll regen much slower.
@solid hinge i have many years of experience playing CS and i can tell you exactly why mechanics in that game work when they would never work in BF
and actually why they don't work in siege
stuff like one shot headshot, the spread mechanics, lack of regen etc
so CS is a fundamentally different game to BF
it is a lane shooter
with optimal play, you never can get shot from behind
since you are always watching relevant lanes
hence why pros play on low sens
exactly yeah
I went to battlefield playing cod for so many years. So much cod 2 and then bo2...
because CS is lane based
you can consider yourself to never truly be "out of combat"
the end of each round is a fixed regen point
if you survive to the end of a round, your reward is your health/ammo regen
if you die, you get your health back next life but you've lost your gun and gear
does this make sense to you
no, even if you win
and you died
you don't get your gun back
you just get more end of round money than if you'd lost
a lot of the time it's more economical to hide and wait for end of round than to go for picks in a lost round
CS is pretty good
hence saves
CS has absolutely galaxy braine design
now that i've explained why the lack of regen is actually proof that CS has regen
Wut? Oh gott
let me explain one shot headshots
I'm stuck in silver but at least I can be happy that I know how the level editor works
CS is different enough so that overwatch is a close to bf tbh
Fick
every gun in CSGO can OHSK to a certain distance unless you buy helmet (which is another $350 on top of the armor cost)
however the terrorist AK and krieg can OHSK through helmet
"thats unbalanced" you may say
well
terrorists have positional disadvantage
Wait a sec
they are fighting stationary targets
Did you play 1.6 and Source
they need the instant TTK to be able to kill an entrenced CT on reaction
yes that's why i call it krieg
yeah
now]
in a round where it's obvious Ts are gonna use rifles
CTs can opt to not buy the $350 helmet
since headshots will kill them anyway
and spend the extra on flashes or some shit
battlefield
BUT
Nah its interesting let him talk
Ts can see through the bluff and buy the much cheaper Galil
which is a full $700 less than the AK
galil is lit
and OHSKs to non-helmet targets
however if CTs see through this
they can buy helmet, Ts think they see through the bluff and buy galils
M4 > Galil
and CTs have gun advantage
these are the mindgames brought about by having situational OHSK through helmet
again, genius game design.
this doesnt work in siege because every gun in the game including the 1200rpm 5BTK assault rifle can OHSK through walls rofl
no depth at all
just spray at the chest and watch it recoil to the head
ez
anyway
it's not like you can buy AK every life in CS anyway
there's a whole another layer of depth brought about by economy
CS doesn't need perfect weapon balance because not every weapon is available for selection at all times
and not every weapon should even be considered for selection at all times
the spread mechanics are actually very close to how BF1 works
Ooh
Yea
your methods of fire are either single tapping with delay or firing killing bursts
microbursting doesn't work
patterns on the meta rifles are pretty much vrec only for half the mag
followed by hrec only for the second half
and they go left to right
I'm liking the sound of mentioning bf1
yes it was one of the first things i realised about BF1 gunplay
you have to use CS firing methods
Siege is more about positioning and the map cause the guns are basically all the same
Cause of the OSHK
tap at the head or killing burst
yeah siege is barely a shooter
it's hide and seek
like how overwatch is a moba
anyway i hope my digression into the mechanics of a beloved shooter has been interesting
We had a CS veteran come over to bf1 in the last days before bfv and he was real darn good
CSGO is truly one of the most defining games of this generation
Haha
Hmm
yeah because the gun mechanics are so similar
interesting
That reminds me
CS also has way more spread than BF1.
like, considerably more
engagement distances are shorter and aimpunch replaces suppression
Yeah it makes sense now, as he was so good he got banned from a few servers
aimpunch is basically suppression that triggers if you get hit
so basically to run it down about battlefield essentially the game should be designed around these mechanics and adding more hardcore mechanics is kinda just moot and there are better ways to make engaging gameplay
er, mechanics like regeneration
Still a mate of his 👌
battlefield should be designed around mechanics that allow for interesting play
rather than mechanics inspired by real life
Yup
battlefields 3, 4, Hardline, and 1 hit this sweet spot
battlefield V strays too far in the 'realism' direction by cutting down on the 'interesting' parts
So if I want to enjoy a combined arms game which has mechanics inspired by real life then I just play Hell let loose or something pretty much?
yes
or Rising storm
battlefield is not your game
That's why I don't enjoy bfv nearly as much
BFV is the first BF since refractor to put so little emphasis on the individual
If the gameplay was good I'd ignore the lack of content and still play
and that's a bad thing
strong individuals make for strong teams
look at how garbage overwatch is
if one guy on your team is underperforming the whole game is lost already
But as you said I feel like a pawn playing and freaking hated it
Overwatch is a wonky game
yeah nobody really likes overwatch anymore
what would you say about strict class design in games like TF2 however
Eh, overwatch at the start was great imo as I could carry the team
But then people started really caring and I didn't
Yeah
and even within formats
highlander is not the same game as 6v6
much like how BF4 10s was unrecognisable as the same game as BF4 5s
since 10s had the tank
and also playing with any of the 9 classes is much more enjoyable because they all have defined advantages which are applicable to all maps
*all maps
now
TF2 classes are designed as characters
much like overwatch heroes or a MOBA champ
BF classes all share the same movement, health, and mechanics
what differs is gun and gadget selection
i see absolutely nothing wrong with having a wide gun selection and a wide gadget selection per class if each class has a clearly defined role
but can also do other things
yeah I see what you mean
recon being based around intelligence and unmanned gadgets for instance like the MAV, the spotting flare, the sniper decoy, and the motion balls
support being based around indirect fire with mines, mortar, crossbow launcher
and then assault and medic have been switched up in the last few games significantly









