battlefield-legacy-titles

[scenic beacon]

i plinked quite a few stupid tigers to death

light tanks right now have no place outside infantry hunting rn though

kinda sad

and aa tanks are still a meme

[tribal cairn]

People seriously underestimate the Boys AT

[solid hinge]

reduce screen shake from the 20mm cannon and give it some tank damage again

[scenic beacon]

That would be a good buff tbh

[solid hinge]

I miss seeing them

[midnight nimbus]

just more health in general is fine

Archer hits the 38t for like 90+ damage with two shots

epic

[analog mist]

I really hope we're getting more than 2 weapons in the first 5 weeks of chapter 4.

Fingers crossed it's not padded with skins and CC.

[tribal cairn]

People are so thirsty for kills, I've had 4 people try to kamikaze me today

[solid hinge]

I'd be okay with the light tanks being so fragile if they didnt also almost always get busted mobility as soon as they're hit

[prime pine]

^

Thats the problem

[midnight nimbus]

idk how it plays on console, but light tank mobility isn't a big help

it's not like light tanks are any harder to hit than heavy tanks

they're still huge

[icy sluice]

Tanks should play pretty much the same, the only way they should play differently is against infantry

Especially with the Turret Rotation buff that was across all platforms

[dull musk]

Heck

[solid hinge]

It's not much of a difference

Just generally worse players

And first person in tanks is literally almost impossible to use effectively because of the input lag

theres that too

[strong parrot]

console player awareness

bf4 video someone posted about unaware snipers the other day...parachutes down to a tall building on that one china map

knifes 3 people in the back in a row

then goes over to the spawn beacon and camp it no doubt to get another kill lmao

[solid hinge]

to give an idea of how bad console awareness is, if I dont have a beacon up and I get shot at I'll slap the beacon in the middle of the open

and 9 times out of ten they dont notice

[strong parrot]

ooof

we like fortnite we like fortnite

[midnight nimbus]

there's just so few scenarios where i can justify using a light tank

I'm not gonna pick one based on a gamble of enemy tankers being incompetent

[solid hinge]

like ive defended points that have been entirely overrun by 3 squads who have all ignored the beacon I was literally standing on when I died and leave their backs open for a lovely flank

[strong parrot]

peak performance there by the enemy

[solid hinge]

Yeah it's not like light tanks are significantly better at killing infantry or anything

[midnight nimbus]

light tanks would have to be cancerously good against infantry for me to justify using one over a medium tank

especially given how medium tanks are already very good against infantry

[solid hinge]

give 20mm cannon the panzer 4 stubby splash radius

[icy sluice]

The FT-Light Tank in Battlefield 1 was an infantry demolisher

[midnight nimbus]

buffing the 20mm radius from 2m to 2.5-3m would be fine

a bit more damage too, so it can actually slay infy well and do some AT damage

and no turret turn limits on light tanks

20 blast damage to 25-30 damage would be ok

400 RPM -> 450 as well

[icy sluice]

A Valentine tank entered F while I was in it, he saw me prone and stared at me... I thought he didn't see me until I zoomed in to know he was staring at me.

I stood up and walked away with him staring at me.

As much as I like memes, you might wanna kill the guy especially if it's a tie game.

[solid hinge]

He was playing pacifist

[icy sluice]

Well, I did blow him up

I was going to press record button but the guide froze and I found myself dead

[solid hinge]

Rejected ...

[icy sluice]

It's the F flag and he came in from the West

F flag is East and this was Arras

So you can very easily run around and kill

[prime pine]

I've only seen people run light tanks in the event of dedicated infantry killers.

But why not run the Panzer IV/Valentine MKVII which serve as better infantry killers.

[soft storm]

There’s a spot on Mercury breakthrough where you can lay waste on the infantry trying to capture B

Of course you gotta be using the light tank with auto cannon splash rounds

[tribal cairn]

Is it me or does the bren just suck?

[strong parrot]

its the best lmg

[tribal ledge]

Been is the best long range LMG in the game

Very very accurate

Damage is kinda mediocre though

It's very useful at long ranges though

Probably the most stable LMG in the game for long range engagement

[tribal cairn]

Bouta say, the ttk isn't doing me any

[lean stump]

just got a 9 kill killstreak with the lee enfield 4 headshots im gonna post it to youtube

[tribal ledge]

I've used the Bren plenty

It's very very good for long range

And some maps

Medium range however isn't good

[tribal cairn]

You know what they could buff?

SMLE Turner's Total Ammo Capacity

[lean stump]

yeah it needs a bufff

[solid hinge]

buff semis

No thank you

[fathom pebble]

What about no buffs

More like balance properly the weapons

[solid hinge]

uhhhh

next map is on july 25th

didn’t they promise us a new map per month?

[fathom pebble]

Don't hope for that chief

But good meme

[lean stump]

got em

[solid hinge]

they literally said that

[fathom pebble]

🍷

Yeh I can say alot aswell

[solid hinge]

dice pls

[lean stump]

rank

[fathom pebble]

Saying ≠ doing

[solid hinge]

why do they keep lying

[strong parrot]

because dice is bad?

[fathom pebble]

Well thats not with me

[solid hinge]

true

[fathom pebble]

Thats their stuff

[midnight nimbus]

TURNER BUFF LMAO YES PLEASE

[dull musk]

[solid hinge]

NO thank you

[fathom pebble]

Meanwhile, how about buff boys agaisnt tanks and nerf agaisnt players

[midnight nimbus]

y nerf against infantry

[fathom pebble]

[midnight nimbus]

it's fine

we finally get a good bolt action

[solid hinge]

I persist that an mmg is almost always as annoying if not more than the boys

[midnight nimbus]

^

[fathom pebble]

MMG's are a mistake on its own

[midnight nimbus]

getting one shotted to the body doesn't feel any worse than getting one shotted to the head

you still insta die either way

[formal valve]

How does one post pics in chat

[spiral prism]

god

damn

fucking air truces on rush maps is annoying

The one bomber with a truce has literally triple the amount of kills of the second dude because my team can't figure out flying a fighter

[vestal locust]

This Thursday marks D-Day + 27,393. 75 years since the opening salvos of Operation Overlord.

Nothing is planned for the occasion I guess...

[formal valve]

Outpost mode comes out so

I guess that’s something?

Not really tho

[vestal locust]

Sad sigh

[solid hinge]

outpost counts as a map

[formal valve]

No

It’s a mode

On existing maps

[solid hinge]

are they falling out on their one map a month statement because mercury counts as 2 maps?

[royal gull]

Why do they keep tinkering with modes?

[solid hinge]

im confused here

[formal valve]

No

Mercury is one map

[royal gull]

They haven't struck gold since they created Rush

[formal valve]

They never said we’d get a map per month

[royal gull]

Maybe Breakthrough

[solid hinge]

they did

[formal valve]

No

Not once

[royal gull]

But that's kind of a Rush variant

[solid hinge]

wtf?

i kept seeing this statement everywhere

bf youtubers were spewing it out left and right

[formal valve]

They said we’d be getting more of them coming soon

[solid hinge]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[formal valve]

Reee

Tho we may be getting another map st the end of this month

[spiral prism]

Can we remove aircraft, mmgs, and bipods

[solid hinge]

i sure as shit hope so

[mossy badge]

Just Aircraft

[formal valve]

No pls

[mossy badge]

Aircraft's the main problem i have.

MMG's i don't mind at all.

[spiral prism]

aircraft is so fucking annoying

[formal valve]

Why hate flyboys

Why you bully me

[solid hinge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/bw3kml/introducing_the_new_lsd_dlc_coming_soon/

[royal gull]

Is your avatar Carl from the Jimmy Neutron episode Battle of the Band? @formal valve

[solid hinge]

lsd dlc

[formal valve]

@royal gull by god....

You madman

Your the first one it get it right

[fathom pebble]

I would prefer if they had limited amount of players that use mmgs/at rifles

[formal valve]

Or make the bipods keep you fixed in position

[fathom pebble]

Bf3/bf4 style yes

[mossy badge]

I mean, technically they do, as soon as you move, it unbipods.

[midnight nimbus]

or uh

have good visibility

[formal valve]

No make it keep you fixed

[fathom pebble]

Make you deploy the bipods and not auto deploy

[midnight nimbus]

no input tax pls

[royal gull]

Why did they even come up with the MMG system?

[midnight nimbus]

kind of redundant

[formal valve]

They have made he visibility too good now

People glow in the night maps

Like literally glow

[midnight nimbus]

input buffer > input tax

[royal gull]

I know it's more accurate but those guns have been standard LMGs in MP games for ages

[midnight nimbus]

nothing wrong with soldier glow

[royal gull]

Why change it up?

[midnight nimbus]

imo, stealth and shit visibility have no place in a PVP game

[formal valve]

If I can see you glowing from 500m away at night

Then somethings wrong

[midnight nimbus]

who cares, it's not a realistic game

[mossy badge]

^

[midnight nimbus]

gameplay > realism

[solid hinge]

no place in a game that was never intended to be a stealth game no less

[formal valve]

People like me want to be stealthy

We like to sneak around

[mossy badge]

^

[solid hinge]

play deu sex

[formal valve]

And we can’t do it glowing

[solid hinge]

good stealth game

dishonored is great too

[formal valve]

That’s not a Bf game tho

[royal gull]

Do you show up on the minimap when you fire your gun?

[mossy badge]

What's the point of trying to find a decent ambush position, only to be shot halfway across the road because you're glowing.

[formal valve]

Maybe

[solid hinge]

no this game has no audio spotting

thank god

[formal valve]

Yeah I try to stay hidden when sniping

[solid hinge]

how come you didnt know that yet?

[formal valve]

So I take a few shots and then move

So I’m not located

[midnight nimbus]

maybe just stealth better

[royal gull]

So the Commando Carbine doesn't give you any bonus by being a suppressed weapon?

[formal valve]

Dude

[midnight nimbus]

and stay out of LoS

[solid hinge]

it's quieter

has less muzzle flash

[formal valve]

You can’t stealth if your FUCKEN GLOWING

[solid hinge]

and i think no tracers?

[formal valve]

at NIGHT

[midnight nimbus]

yeah you can

you can stealth in BF4

[mossy badge]

ITS BF4 NOT BFV

[midnight nimbus]

just stealth better

[formal valve]

You don’t glow in BF4

[solid hinge]

bf4 had glow

you do

[formal valve]

No

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 had even more glow

[formal valve]

Not the same as BFV

No

[solid hinge]

yeah well

bf4 also had 3d spotting

You need to be lucky and extra careful to stealth in BF4

[midnight nimbus]

literally play Zavod night shift

[formal valve]

If someone was a while away in BF4 I couldn’t see them

[midnight nimbus]

people are ez to see

[formal valve]

Yeah

[royal gull]

I kind of miss 3d spotting for every class

[formal valve]

Yeah they are easy to see

[solid hinge]

doesn't work in zavod

[formal valve]

Because everyone uses IRNv

[solid hinge]

in BF1 it's easy because nobody knows how to 3d spot

[midnight nimbus]

given how powerful a good flank is, playing stealthy should be difficult

[formal valve]

I agree

But you shouldn’t glow at night when trying to sneak though a field

[solid hinge]

Yeah but considering how nobody flanks it rarely happens

[midnight nimbus]

it's unreasonably easy in BFV

[formal valve]

Not really tho

[midnight nimbus]

if someone is within your FoV, you should be able to see them

[royal gull]

But now only recons can 3d spot and they are the class least likely to actually ptfo

[formal valve]

If you aren’t slow enough you’ll be spotted and shoots you

YOU SHOULDNT GLOW

You should be able to hide

And conceal yourself

[solid hinge]

you can

[midnight nimbus]

a game without proper stealth mechanics and stealth counters should not have stealth at all

see: BF

[formal valve]

But nooo the visibility was bad

[solid hinge]

you just have to, yknow

conceal yourself

[formal valve]

🤦

[solid hinge]

not pretend to be a rock or grass

[mossy badge]

This is going in circles

[formal valve]

I can’t conceal myself if I look like I’ve got a night light over my head

[solid hinge]

stay behind cover

[midnight nimbus]

^

[formal valve]

Well then I can’t shoot people

[midnight nimbus]

that's the point

[formal valve]

Piss off

[midnight nimbus]

stealth in games that do it well come with trade offs

[formal valve]

Your vision on BF is sad

[midnight nimbus]

you can't hide and shoot at the same time

[formal valve]

Uh yes you can

AHEM BF3, BF4, BFH

[midnight nimbus]

bruh

[formal valve]

*suppressors

*not glowing

[midnight nimbus]

zero out of three of those games have anything close to stealth mechanics

[solid hinge]

you do glow though

[mossy badge]

bruhs, this is going in circles, holy shit

stahp

[midnight nimbus]

three out of three of those games have heavy soldier glow

[mossy badge]

do something productive

[formal valve]

These guys are missing the point

[mossy badge]

I know

[formal valve]

You obviously have not played BF3 or 4

Because no one glows like BFV

[solid hinge]

i have

[midnight nimbus]

point is that stealth has no place in a game without mechanics that center around it

[solid hinge]

no they did absolutely glow

i had 0 visibility issues

[midnight nimbus]

I've played far more BF3/4 than i have BFV

[solid hinge]

kht I'm going to give you a full on Battlefield pill

ok

[formal valve]

I dont need stealth mechanics

[solid hinge]

both methods work

[midnight nimbus]

I've probably played more BFH than BFV

[solid hinge]

it doesn't really matter

BFV works and that's ok

BF3 and BF1 works and that's ok

[formal valve]

I just want to be able to snipe and move without being seen from 500m at night because of glowing

[midnight nimbus]

move better

[formal valve]

Fuck you

[elder ravine]

Yo

[solid hinge]

then stay behind cover?

[elder ravine]

Can someone help me

[formal valve]

Yes?

[solid hinge]

yeah?

[midnight nimbus]

W A S D

[elder ravine]

On Origin

[sterile ledge]

[elder ravine]

Me and my cuz cant play

[formal valve]

I can’t help

[solid hinge]

sorry fam, ps4 crew

I can try

go ahead with your problem

[elder ravine]

Literally we are trying to play Bf4

[formal valve]

Why did it autocorrect to K M S...

[elder ravine]

cant join each others parties

[mossy badge]

If its some sort of technical issue, probably asking EA support would be the better thing to do

[solid hinge]

you need to be in BF4, invite him to an empty squad, then enter a game?

[elder ravine]

Because in Origin shows us as our new name tags but, the old ones in the actual game

So since it still shows us as the old ones

it thinks we are offline.

[midnight nimbus]

oh man

that's just origin

[elder ravine]

Origin is fucken garbage

[midnight nimbus]

happens all the time

[elder ravine]

Cant fix their shit

[spiral prism]

@formal valve Trying to bypass the blacklist isn't going to end well

[midnight nimbus]

yeah origin is terrible

[solid hinge]

this is why steam should be used for shit like this

[formal valve]

What?

[midnight nimbus]

the only proper fix for origin is normally just exiting out and trying again

[spiral prism]

via task manager

[formal valve]

@spiral prism nonono I was confused at why it autocorrected Lmao to, you know

[spiral prism]

have you tried not typing it so much it auto corrects

[formal valve]

It’s strange because I’ve rarely typed it

Bruh moment

[spiral prism]

[midnight nimbus]

epic EA forcing people to use origin

instead of platforms that actually work

very nice!

[spiral prism]

Origin better than epic games store

don't @ me

[mossy badge]

I mean, its not wrong...

[midnight nimbus]

my garbage is better than my neighbor's garbage that's been steaming in the hot summer sun for a week

[spiral prism]

exactly

steam needs competition but that isn't how you do it

[elder ravine]

Now he cant join my server cause it says his shit is not installed

[spiral prism]

Origin never played shitty with steam

[elder ravine]

when in extra content it says its all installed

[spiral prism]

validate game files

[elder ravine]

Origin is a fucken joke why is it even a launcher

[stoic breach]

Battlefield on xbox live moment

[mossy badge]

Still better than Epic

[stoic breach]

😳

[mossy badge]

Which is not a hard record to beat

[spiral prism]

yeah who knew

[midnight nimbus]

better than blizzard launcher

tbh

[spiral prism]

having basic features of a game launcher

blizzard launcher isn't that bad

[midnight nimbus]

it's just hard to add friends on blizzard

come to think of it, there aren't any good modern launchers

[tribal cairn]

Who needs friends?

[midnight nimbus]

steam UI still sucks

[spiral prism]

Blizzard only has a few games so its not really that bad for the average user

[tribal cairn]

Valve

[stoic breach]

Steam friends UI 😷

[midnight nimbus]

still better than BFV UI 😞

[formal valve]

Just another example of EA bad

[spiral prism]

ea bad

[solid hinge]

Why doesn't EA put the old BF games on Steam

[formal valve]

Oof

[solid hinge]

and add workshop integration

[formal valve]

Ea bad

[spiral prism]

CDPR best

[torpid wharf]

^

[spiral prism]

praise geraldo

[solid hinge]

like, they could put BF1942 and have desert combat on the steam workshop

why not do that

[midnight nimbus]

no UI makes me as depressed as BFV's though

[tribal cairn]

Would be nice to see BF1943 back up

[solid hinge]

Is EA stupid

[torpid wharf]

yes

[spiral prism]

BFV's UI is what a marketing person think is good

[formal valve]

@midnight nimbus you should see Cod W2s UI

[solid hinge]

They could put BF2 and have forgotten hope 2 on the workshop

[spiral prism]

and not what actually people think is good

[formal valve]

Menu after menu after menu after menu

[solid hinge]

They could literally put BF3, BF4, and BFV on the workshop

are they actually

fucking

stupid

[midnight nimbus]

CoD WW2's UI is still more usable than BFV's

[spiral prism]

why?

Why would they put their own product on a different launcher?

[torpid wharf]

i kinda like the bfv ui

[solid hinge]

I mean

BFBC2 is on steam

[formal valve]

How do you put pics in chat

[spiral prism]

BFBC2 is just a key

you have to go through origin

[midnight nimbus]

BFV UI takes SO.MANY.CLICKS

[formal valve]

Big rip

[torpid wharf]

yeah it's on steam

[spiral prism]

BFBC2 is like Rainbow Six Siege

[tribal cairn]

There will always be one horrible thing about all of the modern battlefield games

[spiral prism]

You still need origin to launch it

[tribal cairn]

Netcoding

[spiral prism]

Y'all clearly never bought it on steam

[torpid wharf]

no

[midnight nimbus]

even though BF4's UI is a bit cluttered, it's very easy to do things

[torpid wharf]

I don't need origin

[spiral prism]

uh BF4 and onwards have had solid netcodes

[midnight nimbus]

BF games have pretty good networking as far as FPS goes

[tribal cairn]

Then you never played BF4

[spiral prism]

I did

I played BF4 since day 1

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 networking on launch sucked

[spiral prism]

and it was greatly fixed

[midnight nimbus]

^

[spiral prism]

and now BF4 is fine

now BF3 netcode

oof

big oof

[solid hinge]

not netcode

things like community support like mods

[spiral prism]

bad

no pls

[solid hinge]

those were the real takeaways

[spiral prism]

I don't want fucking mods on my battlefield games

[solid hinge]

?

no FH2

[stoic breach]

Battlefield V could instantly save a click by putting the "replace weapon" button on the deploy screen

[spiral prism]

Server plugins in BF3 / Bf4 are annoying already

[mossy badge]

BF2 was probably the last hope for mods in a BF game

[solid hinge]

No like

actual ones which add new factions

[midnight nimbus]

death to mods

[solid hinge]

Do people actually believe this shit lmao

[tribal cairn]

I'm a console guy so we never got mods

[stoic breach]

I dont think mods really work in Battlefield anyways

[midnight nimbus]

mods are great for PVE

[spiral prism]

^

[mossy badge]

Mods would be great for the modern BF games, but Frostbite definitely won't work well with how complicated the engine is.

[solid hinge]

No like

actual mods with new maps

[midnight nimbus]

i don't want them close to PVP

[stoic breach]

Insurgency has good pve modding

[solid hinge]

Are you actually

[spiral prism]

Also Frostbite will never get a public access like that

[solid hinge]

Yeah

that's why I said it was a takeaway

[mossy badge]

You can't compare Frostbite to UE/Source

[spiral prism]

I don't want new maps that are generally garbage

[mossy badge]

You just can't

[spiral prism]

I'm seen what the average custom made map is

[solid hinge]

I have too

I make tf2 maps for fun lmao

[midnight nimbus]

as much as i hate BFV maps, i only have faith in the community to make something 100x worse

[solid hinge]

the community is super usefull and I've seen amazing maps

[spiral prism]

and garbage maps

[solid hinge]

You guys are being butts

really

all I have to say

[spiral prism]

TF2 also doesn't have the amount of bullshit that BFV does

Making a map that isn't a massive chokepoint clusterfuck would be a challenge for the average creator

[midnight nimbus]

my desire for a Noshahr TDM remake is outweighed by my repulsion for everything else the community would make

[solid hinge]

I mean I get that but

people were able to do it with BF1942 and BF2

[spiral prism]

Noshahr TDM remake

no pls

they tried that in bf4

can we just get noshahr

no remake

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 remake was ok, but it wasn't a 1:1 recreation

[spiral prism]

yeah they tried to 'fix' it

and made it less fun imo

[midnight nimbus]

yeah

it was perfect the way it was

[cobalt valley]

that was my main issue, it was not 1:1

[spiral prism]

BF3 noshahr was just fun

It wasn't fair or balanced

[midnight nimbus]

crane camping was occasionally annoying, but never problematic

[spiral prism]

but it was fun

crane camping was free xbow kills for me

[midnight nimbus]

24p Noshahr 💦💦💦

[spiral prism]

64 player 400% tickets 💦

[cobalt valley]

64p noshar

[spiral prism]

absolute clusterfuck

and holy shit was it fun

[cobalt valley]

super fun

[spiral prism]

It was like 64 player rush

64 player rush was garbage on a lot of maps

but it was fun

[midnight nimbus]

64p TDM/Rush is the reason why i hate RSP

[spiral prism]

You don't have to play on those servers

[midnight nimbus]

problem is that vanilla servers are hard to find

[cobalt valley]

yup

[solid hinge]

can you give me a tip on battle field v

[midnight nimbus]

bc everyone likes shit servers instead

[spiral prism]

don't die

vanilla servers in past battlefields were hard

but when bf4 was in its prime they were common

[midnight nimbus]

yeah

[spiral prism]

I vote BF3 goes free again

[solid hinge]

ok thanks

[spiral prism]

for like a month

[midnight nimbus]

that's why i can't play BF4 anymore

BFH F2P please

[spiral prism]

ew no

hackers would be a massive problem

[midnight nimbus]

it's an excellent game

[spiral prism]

unless they update fairfight lets not do F2P tbh

[stoic breach]

Not on console, no hackers

[spiral prism]

BF3 already has a mild hacker problem

[solid hinge]

hi ✋

[stoic breach]

Or very uncommon

Hello cactus

[spiral prism]

You currently can't hack on PS4 / XB1 as far as I know

[mossy badge]

👋🏻

[spiral prism]

They still haven't been cracked in a way that doesn't get flagged instantly iirc

[solid hinge]

can you give me a battlefield 5 tip

[stoic breach]

The only thing thats an issue is MnK on console

[midnight nimbus]

what I'd give for tons of populated BFH servers again 😩🤤💦

[spiral prism]

BFH was fun

people got stuck on the theme

[stoic breach]

I never even got to play hardline

[spiral prism]

If it was just "Hardline"

[midnight nimbus]

^

[spiral prism]

it would have not had issues

[stoic breach]

@solid hinge dont use bolt actions

[midnight nimbus]

the milsim boomers couldn't look past the theme

[cobalt valley]

woop woop

[midnight nimbus]

even with shit weapon balance, it's just such a good game

[solid hinge]

[spiral prism]

but shitters who love their milsim bullshit always think Battlefield = ultra realistic military shooters

[mossy badge]

@solid hinge Use what ever you want, and or like.

[solid hinge]

I'm literally 18 and I like milsims

[stoic breach]

Rip Visceral

[solid hinge]

you're calling me a boomer now?

[spiral prism]

yet people forgot Battlfield heros

[solid hinge]

don’t know

[spiral prism]

Milsims are annoying af

[mossy badge]

Battlefield Heroes was my jam

[solid hinge]

Alright what are these actual galaxy brain takes right here

'mod support is dead'

[spiral prism]

just in terms on moderation milsim

[solid hinge]

'milsims are gay'

[midnight nimbus]

I don't mind milsims, it's just the people that want to make BF one that gross me out

[stoic breach]

Haha

[solid hinge]

my friends brother is in milsim

[spiral prism]

milsim is okay when you don't take it ultra hardcore like you are in the military

[stoic breach]

Yeah BF has never been an immersive sim

[mossy badge]

I've not heard people say they wanted BFV turned into a milsim ?

[midnight nimbus]

BF was at its pinnacle when it was just BF. not a pure arcade shooter, and not a milsim

just BF

[spiral prism]

because milsim is nothing like the actual military

[tribal cairn]

What if they made Arma a console thing?

[solid hinge]

BF2?

[stoic breach]

And then you have people who hate player lighting

[solid hinge]

@tribal cairn that would never work lol

[stoic breach]

And people who like attrition

[solid hinge]

being serious

[spiral prism]

Consoles can't do arma

[solid hinge]

there's absolutely no audience unfourtanetly

[spiral prism]

not enough buttons on the controller

[tribal cairn]

Worth a shot, just really simplified

[mossy badge]

Battlefield was always more realistic than call of duty in some cases, but not as realistic as something like Arma

[solid hinge]

and yeah keybinds

[midnight nimbus]

yeah ArmA is like osu! but turned into a FPS

[solid hinge]

yeah

if you're playing a milsim it's more like a hobby

[spiral prism]

battlefield pretended to be realistic

[solid hinge]

like CB radio

[spiral prism]

it was never actually realistic

[solid hinge]

or modular synths

[midnight nimbus]

Battlefield has elements of authenticity

rather

[spiral prism]

because it was based in a modern setting

CoD almost always did futuristic stuff even in modern games

[tribal cairn]

Not always

Look at the modern warfares

[solid hinge]

⏭

[midnight nimbus]

iirc, all the guns in BO2 are real guns

[solid hinge]

[tribal cairn]

Call of duty World At War as well

[spiral prism]

A lot are 'real' but never left the prototype stage

[solid hinge]

[mossy badge]

Can we talk about something else, like the fact that the "New Modern Warfare" looks amazing, and sounds amazing ?

[cobalt valley]

first CoD with expansion is a gem

[tribal cairn]

Yes

[spiral prism]

boy that was a engine render

and not how the game will look

[tribal cairn]

Don't care, it looks badass.

[mossy badge]

I know, point is i like the direction they are going with

[solid hinge]

your right

[midnight nimbus]

^^

[spiral prism]

yeah and so does BFV when they do engine renders

[midnight nimbus]

i hope MW2019 can really push BF in the right direction to compete

[mossy badge]

sigh

[tribal cairn]

Eh, I didn't call BFV Badass when I saw the first trailer

[mossy badge]

Nobody did

[spiral prism]

BF1 also looked great in the trailers

[stoic breach]

No one did

[spiral prism]

BFV had a lets say

lackluster trailer

[midnight nimbus]

BF3/H/1 marketing was epic

[tribal cairn]

The Reason MW is so hyped is because of the nostalgia value

[midnight nimbus]

I can't even tell you what BFV's tagline is

[mossy badge]

I can't even remember hardlines marketing.

[midnight nimbus]

or what music they used

[spiral prism]

BF4 also had trailers

I remember the fucking ads

[tribal cairn]

We get Captain Price Back as a start

[spiral prism]

Hardline ran ads

[midnight nimbus]

https://youtu.be/yWVPoUCxAC4

[stoic breach]

BFV used the 1942 music on a random speaker in the reveal trailee

That was the only music

[spiral prism]

whoop whoop

[midnight nimbus]

if you think any BFV trailer is better than Hardline's, you're on crack

[solid hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sGwxgt_Ki8

[spiral prism]

thats the sound of the police

[solid hinge]

yeah it's better

[spiral prism]

I miss bfh

[stoic breach]

Lol, I dont

[solid hinge]

Idk what you're talking about this trailer is fire

[spiral prism]

God it was fun

[solid hinge]

is battle field 5 worth it

(click on the fucking trailer)

[spiral prism]

not for $60

[tribal cairn]

If you like the grind, sure.

[solid hinge]

what about 30

[spiral prism]

BFV is worth $30

[solid hinge]

I would say 45

[spiral prism]

Hotwire was fun

don't @ me

[mossy badge]

The actual launch trailer was great, not the crappy first one.

[spiral prism]

I loved the constant vehicles you could combat as infantry

[solid hinge]

i think i’m going to get it

[midnight nimbus]

blood money is the best gamemode in the entire BF series

[tribal cairn]

Eh, I always liked Rush

[stoic breach]

The only other Battlefield trailer I've seen besides BF1 and BFV is the Corridor Digital BF3 one

[tribal cairn]

Or Conquest

[spiral prism]

and yeah Hardline had a bunch of stuff that was great qol

BF4's main theme tho

Damn is it iconic

[midnight nimbus]

Prepare 4 Battle

[solid hinge]

👊

[midnight nimbus]

a little cheesy, but a good tagline

[spiral prism]

BF3 / BF4 solid soundtracks

[icy sluice]

V's is Never the Same isn't it?

[spiral prism]

BFV has what imao

[tribal cairn]

I still think that BFBC2 was one of the best games

[icy sluice]

or Never be the Same

[midnight nimbus]

Seven Nation Army remix for BF1 was great

[solid hinge]

yeah

[midnight nimbus]

same with the BF3 dubstep

[spiral prism]

Bf1 had the God's Gonna Cut You Down remix

that was solid

[icy sluice]

for V you have House of the Rising Sun

[spiral prism]

wasn't that in a past battlefield

[tribal cairn]

Wait what?

[icy sluice]

Rotterdam Trailer

[tribal cairn]

Oh damn I needa watch that again

[spiral prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP12bwmH2LQ

[tribal cairn]

I love that song

[spiral prism]

it looks so much better than the actual game

[icy sluice]

That used to be my Support outfit

[wraith plover]

has the firestorm (dropping before everyone) glitch been fixed yet?

[solid hinge]

battle field 5 adds v bucks community we’re scared

[spiral prism]

boins

[icy sluice]

Jinx

[tribal cairn]

Premium Currency is a bitch

[solid hinge]

yeah

[icy sluice]

I don't really understand the hate of having a premium currency that just gives cosmetics tbh

[spiral prism]

house of the rising sun isn't dramatic enough for a trailer

[solid hinge]

but you have to buy it😭

[icy sluice]

You also got Burning Down the House

[spiral prism]

@icy sluice game is $60 normally

that is my issue

[midnight nimbus]

is the lighting in that BFV trailer actually good?

[spiral prism]

in the trailer, sure

[icy sluice]

I feel like a free weekend would do justice

[mossy badge]

yes

[midnight nimbus]

it looks better than the game

[spiral prism]

in reality, no

its an engine render like all trailers

So the lighting / shadows look fucking insane

Hardline had I'm so Sorry

which was memorial

for fucking destroying your ears 15 seconds in

[solid hinge]

what is the best battlefield game ever

[spiral prism]

That is subjective

[icy sluice]

Okay, for me... it depends on like... when it came out.

[spiral prism]

I loved BF3 and BF4

[icy sluice]

1942 and 2 were like peak for me

[midnight nimbus]

BF3, but that's because there was nothing like it at the time

[icy sluice]

leak peak

[midnight nimbus]

BF3 was so far ahead of its time

[solid hinge]

ok 🤔

[spiral prism]

if they removed the suppression in bf3

it would be a solid game again

[icy sluice]

2 has like the best squad play but like... playing for the gun play now would be like trying to kick fly on cocaine

[cobalt valley]

nah

[tribal cairn]

I spent a entire year playing and absolutely loving BF4, not caring what anyone said about bugs

[spiral prism]

only a year?

[tribal cairn]

Maybe more.

[icy sluice]

3 and 4 I have the least play time

[mossy badge]

Same

[spiral prism]

I have an insane amount of time in bf4

[stoic breach]

I played BF4 on 360 more than xbox one

[mossy badge]

about 500h combined for 3 and 4

[stoic breach]

When I realised you cant disable motion blur on console

[spiral prism]

only 500h

[stoic breach]

For whatever fucking reason

[icy sluice]

The ones I have the most playtime are 1942, 2 and Vietnam

[mossy badge]

No need to be an ass about it

[icy sluice]

I don't know them at all because no launchers back then said it

[solid hinge]

reeeeee

[icy sluice]

But seeing as though I'd play them like... at least 4 hours a day back then... and they're all old games

[stoic breach]

I only have 675 hours in BF1

[icy sluice]

It has to be somewhere like... 800 hours each maybe?

[midnight nimbus]

BF3 modernized pls

[stoic breach]

I think I would've played it more if I actually had people to play with

[icy sluice]

No, 1942 modernized

or 2...

[stoic breach]

I only have 30 hours in BF4

[solid hinge]

bf1 is a good game

[icy sluice]

It is but has a lot of annoying shit in it

[mossy badge]

I just got bored of the modern BF's quickly

[stoic breach]

I didnt play BF4 because I didnt enjoy it enough

[mossy badge]

Too many modern games

[stoic breach]

BF1 I didnt play more because no one had it

And BFV conquest sucks on alot of maps

[solid hinge]

that’s why i’m asking should i get battlefield v

[stoic breach]

And I've stopped playing because Squad Conquest isn't popular right now

[icy sluice]

If two people shot each other with sniper rifles at like 100 meters, the one with a Russian 1898 wins

[cobalt valley]

if you're unsure, get it on an offer

[stoic breach]

Same with Breakthrough

[icy sluice]

You can try the $5 trial

[solid hinge]

ok that’s bye

[stoic breach]

The sweet spot is fine cause of the rainbow glint

And using iron sights is like a deserved sweet spot kill

[spiral prism]

sweet spot is fine

but the OHK within 12m was better

for being aggressive

[icy sluice]

[stoic breach]

That just makes them ghetto shotguns

[cobalt valley]

sweet spot and the way guns were balanced towards spread...

[spiral prism]

yes

and if you missed

[stoic breach]

I wish the De Lisle in BFV was an OHK within 10-12m

[spiral prism]

the kid with the aek melts you

[icy sluice]

I just used the 1898 trench

[stoic breach]

Wtf is that

[spiral prism]

BF3 / BF4 and past battlefields handled the 12m OHK perfectly fine

[icy sluice]

Click on heads in point blanks and bang the objective is yours in like 3 seconds

[spiral prism]

it was never an issue

[midnight nimbus]

ghetto shotgun 🤮

[spiral prism]

I use to only play recon in bf3 / bf4 for being an aggressive sniper

and now you can't do shit

[stoic breach]

The Boys AT is a ghetto shotgun thats why I like it

[spiral prism]

boys AT's projectile

is just a fat slug

[midnight nimbus]

BFH sniping 😍😍😍

[mossy badge]

I just like annoying tanks with it

[spiral prism]

oh BFH with the knockout

[midnight nimbus]

.300 Knockout is bae

[spiral prism]

👌

or the scout once you learned to tap heads

[midnight nimbus]

or AWM with magnum rounds

[icy sluice]

Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted! HAHA!

[spiral prism]

magnum rounds in the beta 😩

[stoic breach]

I've killed 3 tanks now with the Boys

[spiral prism]

I've killed 0

[icy sluice]

Killed 3 tanks

Killing tanks

[spiral prism]

Boys is for killing infantry

not tanks

[stoic breach]

It can be for both

[mossy badge]

A couple of light tanks and AA kills, mostly transports and infantry kills here

[spiral prism]

EOD bots in BF4 were more scary than the boys at rifle

[stoic breach]

People camping with the Boys are just stupid

[spiral prism]

Its not like a good tanker will every let you get him low enough to die to a boys at 😩

[stoic breach]

I've killed a Tiger, a Panzer IV and a 38t with the Boys

[mossy badge]

How else are you supposed to use it then @stoic breach

[spiral prism]

shotgun

[stoic breach]

Like a shotgun

[mossy badge]

Its a massive oversized sniper rifle that works with a bipod

[spiral prism]

Its like the drilling

but with a 100m ohk

[stoic breach]

Corner peaking on xbox is the best

No one knows whats happening

[spiral prism]

going prone in a bush on pc works fine

[stoic breach]

The Boys is a better shotgun than the drilling

[spiral prism]

drilling is more fun

don't @ me

[stoic breach]

Drilling is fun but its the worst shotgun

[spiral prism]

shh

don't say that

[icy sluice]

Throwing knife

[mossy badge]

M1897 is bae

[stoic breach]

Its my most used shotgun

But it still sucks

[spiral prism]

It needs more range on the pellets

[stoic breach]

M1897 with slugs is great

[spiral prism]

Can't do shit if they stand 12m away and dice decides to yeet your pellets into the sun

[stoic breach]

Nah all the shotgun pellet models need a flat damage rate

[midnight nimbus]

Drilling has the best RoF and buckshot of any shotgun

[spiral prism]

RoF till you reload

every 2 shots

[icy sluice]

I wonder why it has the best RoF

[spiral prism]

😩

[midnight nimbus]

well yeah

[stoic breach]

But buck in general is inconsistent

Slugs are better

[spiral prism]

and having a pocket sniper was fun

[icy sluice]

Obrez

[spiral prism]

till you realized its not really that easy to use

[midnight nimbus]

there's only two viable paths to take: return to BF4 shotgun power, or CoD-style buckshot mechanics

the latter is much better imo

[spiral prism]

BF4 shotguns were weak

BF3 shotguns

[midnight nimbus]

bruh

no

[spiral prism]

bruh bf3 shotguns

fucking great

[stoic breach]

Yeah you were talking about cod-style buckshot

[icy sluice]

Can I get a shoutout for my boi Mares Leg

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 shotguns were stronger than BF3's

BF3 just had a better slug

[spiral prism]

Mares leg got nerfed

when it lost the 6x

[mossy badge]

BF3 also had the USAS

...

fuck that thing

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 shotguns are by far the strongest in the series

[spiral prism]

BF3 had slugs and frags

[icy sluice]

USAS Frags

[spiral prism]

BF4 only pump shotguns were meta

[icy sluice]

USAS A Bomb

[midnight nimbus]

no?

BF4 semis could still OHK

[spiral prism]

yeah everyone used the 870

or the uts15

[mossy badge]

Imagine only using meta weapons

[midnight nimbus]

870 wasn't even that good

[spiral prism]

Semis OHK when you got lucky

[midnight nimbus]

UTS or Hawk meta

or use the Saiga

[spiral prism]

and the defensive perk wasn't going to fuck you

[icy sluice]

brb sending a cruise missile

[spiral prism]

Hawk was only meta due to pellet count which was a garbage meta

wasn't even a great shotgun

870 was way more satisfying to use so its wins by default

[icy sluice]

brb calling in an AC130

[midnight nimbus]

no

[spiral prism]

AC130 in BF3

[midnight nimbus]

the Hawk was great

[spiral prism]

😩

[stoic breach]

😳

[midnight nimbus]

insane OHK range

RoF is still plenty high

[spiral prism]

"insane" as long as random pellet spread didn't fuck you

[icy sluice]

😩 🍆 💦

[spiral prism]

and the defensive perk was constant 💦

[midnight nimbus]

just use full choke

why wouldn't you

[torpid wharf]

Why isn't there a swap team option

[spiral prism]

that doesn't help randomly doing slightly less damage

[midnight nimbus]

also fletchette > buckshot

[spiral prism]

what

no

[midnight nimbus]

bc fletchette bypasses defensive perk

[icy sluice]

laughs in not playing the game

[spiral prism]

slugs > fletchette

[icy sluice]

airburst

[midnight nimbus]

fletchette full choke has a better OHK range than slugs

[spiral prism]

headshots bby

no one cares about on paper stats

[torpid wharf]

Rip answer

[midnight nimbus]

but bodyshots are ez

[stoic breach]

No team switch in BFV?

[spiral prism]

and so is the aek

[midnight nimbus]

quickscope to the chest to delete

[spiral prism]

don't be a bodyshot hero

[mossy badge]

Looks like we've got a try hard over here

[torpid wharf]

I might care, betrayed :)

[spiral prism]

headshots caused the most sweat

m320 FB best gun in BF4 tho

[icy sluice]

There is no team switching in V

[spiral prism]

😩

underbarrel m320 fb for the ghetto shotgun

[mossy badge]

@icy sluice Technically there is, you just need a friend on the enemy team

[torpid wharf]

Honestly why though

[spiral prism]

dice

[icy sluice]

Heavily abused in 1

[torpid wharf]

Wow

[icy sluice]

As in actual abuse.

Oh shit my team is losing by 50 points, better switch!

[spiral prism]

you mean switching to the winning team isn't fair

[icy sluice]

I got about 14 headshots with the Ross in one game

Narvik always treats me right with headshots

[spiral prism]

Narvik is garbage

[mossy badge]

For me its Arras and the bell tower

[spiral prism]

Narvik makes me wanna 😩

[icy sluice]

Nut

[mossy badge]

Narvik is fun, if you have a good team to play with and a lack of planes

[spiral prism]

when on attacking for breakthough its ok

[icy sluice]

I'm okay with all the maps... even Hamada sometimes

Sometimes...

[spiral prism]

conquest in bfv is uh

interesting on some maps

[icy sluice]

I only really play Conquest and occasionally Grand Operations

[mossy badge]

All the maps except Fjell is great for me

Because fuck me the bomber spam

[spiral prism]

fuck bombers

[mossy badge]

Also, its 4AM and its cold.
Why am i still awake....

[spiral prism]

period

[icy sluice]

Ironically, I have the most fun with Fjell as an Infantry boi

[spiral prism]

bombers were a mistake

[icy sluice]

Recon, Throwing Knife now the P08 Carbine OOOF

After a match, my room is as white as that mountain

[mossy badge]

Fjell infantry is great, but then the bombers fucks everything up

[spiral prism]

I thought the attack heli was bad in bf3 / bf4

[icy sluice]

Thankfully there's like 10 AA guns

[spiral prism]

but the bomber makes me wish for the attack heli back

ooh the blacklist strikes again 😩

[mossy badge]

Figured

[spiral prism]

blame discord's ToS

[mossy badge]

Let me retype that

[stoic breach]

I wish the Firestorm Kolibri copter was in multiplayer

[mossy badge]

Doesn't help that DICE's flying controls are re-tar-ded

there we go

[midnight nimbus]

BF3 AH was peak abuse

[stoic breach]

👽

[spiral prism]

lets not bypass the blacklist

BF3 AH was fun tho

[midnight nimbus]

there's nothing as close to as ridiculous as BF3 AH in this game

[spiral prism]

uh

bomber can't be countered really on some maps

[mossy badge]

Also, since when does discord have a word blacklist

[stoic breach]

The bombers would be fine if AA was good

[spiral prism]

Its not a word blacklist

[icy sluice]

Did y'all know you can build through walls?

[spiral prism]

Its the partnered server ToS that blocks certain words

[stoic breach]

AA Turrets are just annoying to planes, not actually good

[mossy badge]

Oh yeah forgot about that part.

I understand why.

[spiral prism]

AA turrets in BFV are garbage

[mossy badge]

^

[spiral prism]

Fucking easy to deal with as a bomber

[solid hinge]

We need to buff them

[midnight nimbus]

BF3 AH honestly doesn't have a decent counter

[spiral prism]

vs at least in BF3 / BF4 any engineer could get a lucky shot

or a tank

[soft storm]

Yeah let’s buff AA. Again

[spiral prism]

or the multiple TOW missiles

[midnight nimbus]

but yeah air counters in BFV suck

[spiral prism]

or a lucky sniper

BFV its just like

[stoic breach]

AA should get a closer range buff

[spiral prism]

"don't run on the objective"

[midnight nimbus]

Staghound is unironically one of the best anti air measures

[icy sluice]

Building through a wall
https://streamable.com/1j3z7

[spiral prism]

Planes should be punished for flying near AA not rewarded with a free kill

[midnight nimbus]

which says a lot about AA in this game

[mossy badge]

@soft storm
Dude, stationary AA's are absolutely useless

[spiral prism]

AA is just a "come shoot me I can't move or do shit"

[midnight nimbus]

MAA sucks too

[spiral prism]

MAA is only good for farming infantry

don't @ me

[midnight nimbus]

make MAA great again

[soft storm]

Why are you using stationary??

[midnight nimbus]

it's not even good at farming infy

[spiral prism]

because on some maps you need the tank?

[mossy badge]

Because how else are you supposed to kill the bombers on Fjell ?

[soft storm]

So wait

[spiral prism]

Conquest is garbage in bfv anyways

[soft storm]

Lemme get this straight. On the maps that are supposed to be air dominated

[spiral prism]

uh like what?

Battlefield has always been infantry focused

That is why each side gets maybe 3 planes at best 😩

[mossy badge]

Pretty sure you're missing the point...

[rough perch]

AA is really bad currently

[soft storm]

Fjell you get like 6

[spiral prism]

Fjell is a shitstorm

[rough perch]

I think it's snow

[spiral prism]

Could be a good infantry map

but dice fucked it up

[soft storm]

My point being the Air counter on fjell is supposed to be other air

[midnight nimbus]

I've never played Fjell conquest

[spiral prism]

yeah but everyone just pulls bombers

[midnight nimbus]

never intend to

[spiral prism]

and ignores each other