you click r3 while strafing
#battlefield-legacy-titles
solid hinge
weary zinc
lol wtf is that
weary zinc
thats so fucking weird lol
solid hinge
yeah it's bizarre
I guess they did it cause hold breath was L3
But that's basically useless
nothing....
weary zinc
yeah, thats fair.
worthy blaze
how do you lean on pc
weary zinc
forgot about hold breath.
[ and ] while aiming were my default
had to rebind to q and e then screw the rest of my binds :/
worthy blaze
ahhh okay! 😛 ill look at the settings
solid hinge
not leaning
weary zinc
weird
are you aiming, strafing and clicking R3?
thats fucked., they should change that.
what a stupid way to lean.
google says you need to aim, strafe left or right, and hit R3.
little zenith
Is there any big updates coming to BFV from today till 10th June?
I'll be going off wifi and will play on mobile data so i wanna know if im screwed mid way
solid hinge
got it to kinda work. thought it was a peek from cover type deal.
if u have to move from cover its not really useful
yea works but no point
so slow
leaving cover just to have a pimp limp?
Best to change it to just r3 and l3
Then you can do it safely in cover
solid hinge
i dunno maybe not worth it
icy sluice
It works for me
solid hinge
ill just strafe its faster
proper tapir
man wouldn't be cool if we had separate pilot and tanker classes?
weary zinc
what are all the game modes in bf5? i cant find a list that actually has all of them.
proper tapir
two more classes for me to potentially purchase cosmetics for
maybe actually want to equip that pilot headgear
some will say i'm a dreamer
but i'm not the only one
proper tapir
i'm confident those will come
we still have japanese, US and (hopefully) russian weapons to come
maybe (more) italian guns
icy sluice
United States did have some kind of .50 AT rifle
gray glade
plz not another one
proper tapir
they going to nerf these AT rifles?
icy sluice
Nope!
proper tapir
i mean AT rifles were kind of obsolete in WW2
icy quartz
God at rifles are so dumb
proper tapir
i mean they are kind of cool as an AT gadget maybe
icy quartz
Yeah like bf1
proper tapir
yeah
icy sluice
proper tapir
but as a sniper rifle???
icy sluice
This was Semi-Auto too
proper tapir
shouldn't be as accurate as they are
a little more clunky
maybe good against light armor
a gadget instead of PIAT or panzerfaust
or better yet a battlefield pickup
icy quartz
Yeah^
proper tapir
they could do "elite" classes a la BF1 without the added health
"elite weapons" maybe instead
icy quartz
Like bf4
proper tapir
random spots on the battlefield
yeah
like BF4
would be great for when flamethrowers are eventually introduced
so we don't have everyone with flamethrowers...
icy quartz
Yeah lol
proper tapir
like we now have everyone with BOYS
it's a silly overstep
i mean it's cool they are in the game
but it's a bit too much
icy quartz
Its just dumb that they are a primary gun
proper tapir
yes agreed
charred heron
I think the map designers never really took the Boys into account
proper tapir
well again they are a cool add, but need to controlled a bit more
again either nerfed and made into AT gadget or made into an elite weapon battlefield pickup
icy quartz
On mercury boys just camp by the mountain by the airfield
proper tapir
yep exactly
takes away from what is otherwise a cool new map experience
i mean it's on every map now
icy quartz
Yeah but mercury is the only one ive been playing
proper tapir
well every map has this new BOYS camping dynamic
has changed the whole game a bit
and what's funny is when i'm in a tank i don't notice them lol
seems a bit counterintuitive
icy quartz
Lol
proper tapir
like no one is actually using them for what they're supposed to be used for
icy quartz
Its more like an AP gun
proper tapir
I’m confident DICE will tweak it
They do need elite weapon pickups
Would be cool for a .50 M2 or medium/heavy mortars too
Flamethrowers
Hopefully we get more explosive charges too like bangalores or satchel charges
Need more options to clear obstacles
icy quartz
Yeah i heard we are getting a pole charge thing for the Japanese
icy sluice
Caps lock dude... and git gud
icy quartz
How would they nerf them
proper tapir
well they kind of did nerf them to start off with by making sniping harder, not as many one-shot kills
soft storm
Make them even worse lol
icy sluice
lol
proper tapir
but this BOYS rifle has kind of erased that
icy sluice
It's easy to kill the snipers in this game or at least avoid them
soft storm
You guys act like the only thing that kills you are the Boys AT
proper tapir
actually it kind of is
icy sluice
One, you can... ahem move
graceful prairie
they need to make the glare stronger. they need to somehow encourage players to not stand in base for 30 minutes.
icy sluice
The boys rifle has shit bullet speed and drop
proper tapir
i wasn't really having a problem with the old snipers
easy to avoid
but the BOYS...
icy sluice
Is even easier
icy quartz
I would sometimes get sniped but when im dying everytime to a boys at
soft storm
You could say the same about the MMG’s...
proper tapir
i don't know, no real problems with other weapons
graceful prairie
whats the problem with mmgs
proper tapir
it's the BOYS
icy sluice
Boys rifle doesn't take skill to hit a non-moving target but a moving target...
proper tapir
plus it's an AT rifle, not a sniper rifle
it's completely misused and misrepresented in the game
should be an AT gadget
icy sluice
To 100m
proper tapir
should be more clunky, less accurate, good at hurting light armor
icy sluice
It only has like... what... 25 RPM?
soft storm
Less
icy sluice
I'm gonna say this, if you die to the boys rifle, you deserve that death.
Slow rate of fire, bullets go at a slugs pace, small magazine, you need to be stationary to use it...
random rock
f
soft storm
Because nobody would join that server
icy sluice
It's not like how DMRs worked 
random rock
why dice dont give us the way to creat serves so we can add rule no fucking snipers
also they are
RSP
icy sluice
Remember DMRs from Battlefield 4?
Actually, the Boys might be the most underpowered 1 shot kill gun in the game
proper tapir
should be an AT gadget to use instead of piat or panzerfausts
icy sluice
or in the Series
soft storm
You guys would be great game developers
random rock
lol bfv without assaults would be great
icy sluice
Pop a smoke, get into cover, something.
There's so many ways to avoid long ranged snipers, it's a joke
proper tapir
not a problem with snipers, more the wrong weapons
graceful prairie
just remove every class then lol
proper tapir
yeah it's much better than BF1 with snipers
icy sluice
Boys AT Rifle is classed as an AT Rifle in game.
graceful prairie
spectator only
proper tapir
ha no it's a primary weapon for snipers
icy sluice
Yeah and it is in the category "AT Rifle"
icy quartz
On mercury the first A objective is so open to anybody on the mountain side you can get kikled easily by boys AT
proper tapir
BFH???
icy sluice
Hardline
proper tapir
we referenced that game???
icy quartz
AM?
icy sluice
Anti-Material
soft storm
Anti material?
icy quartz
Oh
proper tapir
really BFH?
icy sluice
Remember the 50. Cal rifles in 4?
soft storm
Only difference is that engineers didn’t get scopes
icy sluice
You also gotta make the game fun.
I don't like using the Boys AT Rifle because I like moving
solid hinge
AT rifles would suck as an assault gadget
proper tapir
just saying it should be an AT gadget
icy sluice
AT Rifle would be horrible as an Assault Gadget
solid hinge
They have enough gadgets as is
long galleon
Lmao I just killed three people in a row with the Liberator
icy sluice
Panzerfaust and PIAT exist.
icy quartz
Lol
proper tapir
well then add the BOYS
icy sluice
They already out-class the AT RIfle in vehicle damage
It would be useless to be classed under assault
proper tapir
AT rifle should be a good long range alternative
long galleon
I think that you should be able to shoot the driver with the AT rifle
icy sluice
It does like 5 damage
solid hinge
Doesn't fit the class either
icy quartz
Better tan sniper
solid hinge
There's not much assaulting with a slow rifle you have to bipod with
icy sluice
Plus, now Recon has SOMETHING that's against vehicles other than a shitty frag grenade
long galleon
They could add a gadget to Assault which is similar to the Rocket Gun from BF1
proper tapir
that's kind of what an AT rifle is, the BFV version of rocket gun
icy sluice
@long galleon Panzerfaust
proper tapir
i mean they will be adding panzerschrek and bazooka too
so not like there can be too many AT options
icy sluice
AT Rocket Gun and Panzerfaust do about the same damage... in a technical sense
As in... what they were fighting
solid hinge
They better buff tanks soon
icy sluice
We want a tank buff now?
solid hinge
When havent we?
proper tapir
yeah but AT rifle could be good long range alternative to panzerfausts and PIAT
granted less damage
icy sluice
FAR FAR LESS
solid hinge
Tanks are basically ass anywhere but like 300-500m away from enemies
That's what they're for
They're just on recon instead
solid hinge
When APCR stops being broken it might actually buff damage
soft storm
When
icy sluice
The description of the Boys even says the PIAT replaced it
proper tapir
right so it should be in that gadget class
solid hinge
The AT rifle isnt outdated against panzer 38t or panzer 4 tho
wasnt even the piat outdated
icy sluice
Yeah lol
proper tapir
not being used as the primary and most deadly sniper rifle
solid hinge
Imo the AT rifle shouldnt do any dmg to a tiger
soft storm
Are you on console
solid hinge
Or a churchill
icy sluice
Private Matches will be a thing in the future
Seriously, it's very, very easy to avoid sniper fire in this game
solid hinge
Its easy to avoid shit snipers in every game
Good snipers however, not so much
Rude
soft storm
People bitched less about them removing frontlines
icy sluice
soft storm
Hahaha
proper tapir
haha yeah, find another sniper rifle that's actually a real gun
icy sluice
I rarely have an entertaining sniper battle
Most of mine is just "Oh hey, I won, on to the next objective"
proper tapir
there are more AT rifles to come for sure
solid hinge
sniper battles are both sides spamming ADAD and seeing who predicts wrong first
proper tapir
the russians and germans both had them too
don't need every sniper toting a different AT rifle
needs to be reclassed
that's all
icy sluice
@solid hinge Winchester 50. Cal
proper tapir
i can't wait for the day they limit the number of each class 😉
solid hinge
You cant fix the snipers issue
Theres no other way to fix it than just take snipers away
proper tapir
no just limit each class
solid hinge
Once people get tired of the boys they'll start playing other classes again
I dont like class limiting
If you give people a tool than can one shot from any range and you dont have to do anything but sit on your ass theyll do that
proper tapir
they have vehicle limiting
soft storm
It doesn’t one shot from any range ffs
solid hinge
They dont
plain spade
solid hinge
Im talking about snipers in general
proper tapir
they balance maps for vehicles
solid hinge
Not the AT rifle
proper tapir
why not classes
solid hinge
You have a set amount of vehicles but it's not like you're gated to 1 AA and 3 heavy tanks
You can be any vehicle
proper tapir
neither would you be limited by actual weapon
solid hinge
which imo sucks
solid hinge
Defo
proper tapir
you could grab one when availalbe
proper tapir
yeah and so many support
solid hinge
I'm not losing out on recon cause of some crusty camping bastards
proper tapir
so many medic, etc
solid hinge
All obj modes are never 32on32
Its always half of the teams sitting at the back of the map
soft storm
Nobody complained when dice literally gave the class with infinite heals a noob tube
proper tapir
medics do need something to destroy obstacles
solid hinge
Why
proper tapir
i mean everyone should be able to get rid of an obstacle right?
solid hinge
Not necessarily imo
proper tapir
at least a little
in BF1 you could at least hit stuff with melee weapons
cut wire
gray glade
medics have the nade rifle thingy
solid hinge
Yeah but in that game you couldnt build obstacles
solid hinge
I agree with you caustic but its literally gonna happen when rsp drops
proper tapir
it's really their only way to clear an obstacle
solid hinge
And?
I think if you take time away to build an obstacle it shouldnt be rendered useless by one person quickly
I agree with that
Yeah I think it is as well
im assuming the intent is you have a squad that includes an assault for busting obstacles
I hope the 5v5 comp mode has class limits
Orly?
Nice
I think you'll have those roles
Yeah
I wonder if you can have a mode with incursions classes and large scale conquest btw
Doesnt sound too bad tbh
some sort of semi - hardcore mode
They have to fix glowing players before that drops tho
I think its just that bf1s gunplay was way more casual than battlefields that came before
People just weren’t interested in a comp mode
That could be it
but honestly I would like it if this mode reflected a 32v32 mode
not a 5v5 mode
slender crater
I now realised this
How will the 500 lvl rank be called in BFV if they go with the 500 lvl increase
Will they call it:
Sergeant of the Master Sergeants of the extreme Master Sergeant to the most important Sergeant Sergeant to extreme Master Sergeant of the Person of Extreme Master Sergeant Shooter Person to the Extreme Max!
graceful prairie
yes
native mural
such copy n paste Haunted
slender crater
i still came up with it XD
native mural
=P
slender crater
trying to get some fun guesses going for rank names afther rank 150
because we allready know what the names wil be till 150 but what will dice come up with for rank names till lvl 500
solid hinge
anan
soft storm
Are you even speaking English at this point
native mural
...arent you the guy who complained about his ping earlier?
thats probably why you have problems lol
cedar cove
English mutha#$*@ do you speak it!!!?
vital lily
i cant deal with all the fucking snipers in this game
your not good
its easy
bfv is easy mode for snipers
native mural
"BFV is easy mode for snipers"
the base damage is so much lower than in BF1 and 4 lol
vital lily
the makes are tiny
native mural
you have to go for headshots if you want to be usefull
vital lily
headshots are still one hit kill
and still easy because of how small maps are
its easy
native mural
do you want headshots not be a one shot? lmao
strong parrot
if youre not using a SLR as a sniper youre doing it wrong anyways 
vital lily
Guass clearly your one of them get over yourself its easy
native mural
I play mostly medic but ok
vital lily
and dont get annoyed at teams filled with snipers sitting on oppisite sides of the maps?
headshotting everything?
solid hinge
They dont usually headshot things
native mural
whoever is sitting at the end of the map isnt headshotting anything
solid hinge
I've been headshot by assault more than recon
native mural
^
solid hinge
stupid g43
native mural
unfortunate for you
graceful prairie
the snipers sitting in spawn sniping are mining bitcoins
native mural
still doesnt mean bolt action rifles shouldnt one shot with a headshot
vital lily
i never said they shouldnt
native mural
you implied it
vital lily
no i didn tlmao
i said
it was annoying how many snipers there are
dont try twist my words
vital lily
are you 11
native mural
nah
native mural
_>
slender crater
graceful prairie
look how i have those savages under control i should become mod
slender crater
strong the complains are
vital lily
quiet schrodingers
graceful prairie
😢
strong parrot
how dare they do that
strong parrot
...I dont think..you know what furry means
vital lily
tanks
native mural
...wow...two people called something with Panzer
strong parrot
hard to tell
solid hinge
tidal magnet
Anyone happens to have a spare key or battlefield 5 trial laying around? Would love to play and explroe my own city (rotterdam)
icy sluice
It's 5 USD for Origin Access I believe
vital lily
dont reckon anybody is gonna give you a free game
icy sluice
Yeah that's a stretch
vital lily
but yeah origin access super cheap
strong parrot
$5 for 10 hours of game play
tidal magnet
Yeah i know just feeling desperate need sometihng to distract me lol
icy sluice
Which isn't that bad of a deal really.
rough perch
was the discord server always eu?
vivid wolf
anyone here know what tanks and planes to use for bfv? i wanna get better with them
rough perch
Preference imo. Ribey has better accuracy over long distance, but STG, I think, hit's a lot harder and is easier to burst/tap
strong parrot
the best AR is obviously the 1907 even though its more smg because of the recoil making it impossible at range that youd use an AR at 
but the stats say its the best! xd
solid hinge
bmac i want you to know I laugh literally every time you do this
Ribey is mad accurate but significantly slower than the other ARs with a smaller mag size
soft storm
I’m gonna spread those sheets in a min
solid hinge
STG is pretty accurate and even can kinda magdump at range while still performing up close
the other sturmgewehr spits bullets like i spit rhymes
strong parrot
badly? 
solid hinge
and the m1907 is like a shotgun but it shoots every pellet individually
soft storm
Ok so like, I’m just now noticing how huge this 5v5 mode is
spiral prism
bfv is garbage
I just had a match that easily 10 players on my team were doing nothing with the boys at rifle
icy sluice
Yeah that happens in every battlefield game lol
soft storm
BF1 is garbage
I just had a match that easily 6 players on my team were doing nothing with the train
spiral prism
Train has more strength than the boys at rifle
icy sluice
I remember getting like a 5 killstreak in operations, 2nd sector of Ballroom Blitz, I died and looked at like... 10 friendlies sitting on a hill
spiral prism
and bf1 had less gimmick bullshit
soft storm
What?
spiral prism
Attrition is just a big old gimmick
to force teamplay
and it gets real stale real fast
Since half the squads I'm in are entirely sniper / assault
stone plaza
@solid hinge the M1907 has less horizontal recoil than the StG and SG1-5 by design
since it's a lower capacity weapon with an awkward pattern
BF1 model 8 .35 balancing philosophy but not quite
because BFV is not quite there when it comes to balance overall
solid hinge
are you saying if you're good enough at dragging down you could use the m1907 more accurately than the STG
spiral prism
dice has always sucked at balancing
icy sluice
1 had a fuckton more of annoying shit
solid hinge
good gracious
soft storm
1 literally had Skyrim the elite
icy sluice
Mortars, Mortar Trucks, Behemoths that would just annihilate if you're anywhere near them or... a mile away
stone plaza
i don't know why you're shocked
spiral prism
behemoths that would die within 3 minutes of spawning on every map
icy sluice
If i was a tank and that train existed, I'm dead no matter what
solid hinge
The thought of someone killing me at STG range with a 3x scope m1907 is horrifying
icy sluice
It had 100% perfect accuracy and anyone can just spot me
soft storm
Behemoth was designed to allow the fortunate players on the team free kills
icy sluice
And the mortar can reach like half the map
solid hinge
I hate invisible blocks.
icy sluice
What?
icy sluice
The mortars in Battlefield 1 would disable engines and to repair that you need to stand still
And since they have 100% point and click adventure accuracy
There's no way I can get out of the situation alive unless a teammate kills them or I get out the tank
solid hinge
Does base raping exist in bfv
icy sluice
It happens every once in a while
solid hinge
I love being base raped
icy sluice
That's a Battlefield thing in general... or hell, fps game that has respawns in general
solid hinge
I loved being base raped in metro or firestorm in bf3
icy sluice
Call of Duty, Brink, Quake or Unreal Tournament with good teams...
solid hinge
It was like, push the other way and get free kills
icy sluice
Any game with respawns = Posibility for that
royal gull
Okay, so now what about SMGs?
formal valve
Hey guys
royal gull
The game makes it seem like the Sten and MP-40 have identical stats. Is this the case?
formal valve
Remember how at the end of the chapter 2 trailer they teased chapter 3?
Well what if after the chapter 4 trailer they do the sane for chapter 5. I can just picture it. The camera is on the ground looking at the boots of men running and shouting, a tank rolls by as gunfire is heard, and the scene ends with the iconic ping of an M1
icy sluice
I wouldn't be surprised if we get Wake Island for like the 5th time in the Franchise
icy sluice
If I am counting correctly, it will be the 5th time in uhh ironically, V.
formal valve
Is there a problem with that tho?
icy sluice
Just a tad funny for me
stone plaza
@royal gull sten has marginally better velocity
MP40 has less horizontal recoil
yes, they're redundant clones of each other
yes, the MP40 is the better pick
no, i don't know why DICE did this
gray glade
didnt one of the dice map designer managers talk about not wanting to do wake again?
royal gull
Maybe because its damn good
Man if Wake isn't in the Pacific DLC I'm going to be pissed
gray glade
i like pizza, but i wouldnt want it every day
royal gull
It's been 3 (4 if you count Hardline) games without Wake
gray glade
i dont get this fascination with wake specifically
surely there are other battles that are interesting, that might be even better suited for a fun map
daring moth
test
stone plaza
boomers can't let go of the past
icy sluice
With Chapter 5 being Awakening the Giant, I assume all we're getting is Pacific maps
gray glade
according to that, they made wake island 8 times lol
gray glade
woke island
solid hinge
icy sluice
Vietnam one doesn't count though
gray glade
why not
icy sluice
from a mod
gray glade
7 times then
dont get me wrong, if they do include it, i hope they make an awesome job
but i dont want an uninspired map maker do it
icy sluice
I mean even though that mod was made by DICE... it was just a port really
And it uses the exact same engine and all that so... they just copied and pasted.
rose pilot
@solid hinge Your images were removed because naming and shaming is not allowed. If you suspect that somebody is hacking then report through Origin or whatever platform you play on.
solemn wedge
lol
strong parrot
imagine being not smart
icy sluice
@solid hinge Maybe follow the rules of a discord
coral fiber
Lol he left
rose pilot
charred heron
coral fiber
icy sluice
charred heron
Now he'll complain on Reddit
icy sluice
We broke the pattern!
floral mantle
Ok guys question. Final two in Firestorm kill trade each other. Who gets the win.
floral mantle
No
icy sluice
I don't think it is
charred heron
Both
icy sluice
If they are... they suck at using Keyboard and Mouse 
rose pilot
The game does not natively support KB/M on Xbox as well afaik. So nah
native mural
i think you can buy a special kb/m for ps4
coral fiber
POTATOBOXES
floral mantle
@charred heron hmmm
charred heron
@floral mantle Literally my first FS victory was a trade
We both had a winning screen, but the result screen said 2nd place for both
floral mantle
I just got one but the victory screen showed the other guy. I’m butthurt 😂
vivid wolf
in bfv what tanks and planes should i use
cobalt valley
the ones you like
but rule of thumb is, have an AA, a tank destroyer and a tank, either med or fast like the stag
gray glade
@vivid wolf it really depends on your playstyle and what maps
but as a rule, heavy tanks are generally more defense oriented or camper tanks
and the lighter they are from there the more agressive and anti-infantry they get
The Archer is seen by most as a very strong choice for the allies, for germany its often Panzer IV and Tiger
cobalt valley
yeah, the sturm is not seen as the strongest choice considering the IV and tiger
solid hinge
medium tank is generally best of both worlds
light tank loses too much hp and firepower
tribal cairn
Tiger is a double edged blade
Because on one hand, it has good defense and firepower
On the other, if it's In the hands of the idiot, then both of those go out the window
Since they'll likely charge in and get dynamited
Or tank sniped
It's good for mainly Sniping and making skirmishes on lightly-to medium defended objectives
mossy badge
I personally love the STuG, its lower profile makes it harder to hit at distance.
and that 360 deg gunner seat is glorious
proper tapir
wonder what light, medium, heavy and tank destroyers we are getting for US
in september
mossy badge
Definitely a Sherman as a medium, hopefully a Stuart/Chaffee as light tank, heavy tank most likely M26 and tank destroyer, M10 or M18
proper tapir
find it hard to believe we will see that many new vehicles though...
yeah
those would be the right fits
solid hinge
stug is a pish panzer 4 imo
mossy badge
pish ?
proper tapir
he's got point about low profile though, can be hard to hit and seems to be prone to glancing shots
solid hinge
it doesnt get a good enough gun to be a proper tank hunter though
mossy badge
It gains a lower profile, making it harder to hit, a much more effective 360 degree gunner turret
If you're using it up close and personal like a panzer IV, you're doing it wrong
proper tapir
though i'm still a bit confused at how the AP rounds work in BF - just higher velocity but not as much damage?
solid hinge
the gunner position is nice but that relies on teammates
proper tapir
seems counter intuitive but BF has always had some weird tank round stuff going on
solid hinge
and is also less effective by not being up close and personal
mossy badge
Its what the Tank Destroyers are supposed to do though
solid hinge
AP rounds do more impact damage in exchange for less splash, they usually have higher damage and velocity
proper tapir
yeah doesn't seem like they do as much damage
mossy badge
Hide your stug behind a mound and fire and retreat every round, you'll do a lot of damage
solid hinge
Stug gun is exactly the same as the panzer 4 though
mossy badge
A great dual purpose
solid hinge
All the AP rounds should do higher damage bar the archer's
mossy badge
(long 75)
solid hinge
Archers does like half the normal amount of damage
strong parrot
lmao ayyy first game i play today
solid hinge
its busted
strong parrot
enemy attacker on BT merc is a blatant aim bot with a zk..while being support
all his kills are headshots
he killed me 3 times instantly them im like oh wait a minute no wonder hes aim botting
mossy badge
So funnily enough, it does make sense that the Archers AP (or APDS) round does less damage, but has higher velocity
proper tapir
LOL
lament zephyr
Does anyone still play bf3 on pc
mossy badge
See, this is what confuses me.
Which AP round, standard round or unlockable AP round
solid hinge
I can only imagine it was a mistake, but they dont seem to have touched it since the archer came out
solid hinge
I'm assuming standard rounds are HE
midnight nimbus
StuG would actually be kinda dank if the driver could use the coax
mossy badge
Standard rounds do damage to tanks so its definitely not HE
floral belfry
stug is my fav tank
midnight nimbus
it wouldn't be a top tank, but it'd be decent
floral belfry
the top gunner is so good
mossy badge
Most likely standard AP or APBC
midnight nimbus
Archer standard round is HE
midnight nimbus
well it is in game
solid hinge
I know irl it wouldn't be HE but for the purposes of the game
all the default shells have the highest splash
midnight nimbus
why wouldn't HE damage tanks lol
solid hinge
frags do like 10 damage to tanks if you drive over em and they certainly wouldn't do that much irl
tribal cairn
You know, I've been using the Boys AT lately, should I get the APCR or the High Velocity? I've actually succeeded in taking down a couple tanks, but by God and the holy fucking ghost, don't try and go after heavy tanks.
mossy badge
Depending on the caliber, explosive mass and enemy armor, it would most likely do nothing significant
midnight nimbus
man the APDS for the 17pdr irl was super dank
solid hinge
The APCR is broke atm and doesnt hurt tanks (you can still bust turrets and engines and tracks though) but it seems to destroy any fortification you shoot it at
midnight nimbus
insane velocity and armor penetration
solid hinge
So it can be worth taking for fun
solid hinge
Like literally anything you shoot it at that isn't a tank
You can bust a house in two hits
The water towers can be busted
tribal cairn
I gotta say, The Boys is a real cheeser but It's a bit slow and cumbersome for a good offensive rifle
mossy badge
There's simply not enough explosive mass in normal under 100mm explosive shells to punch through armor, but there were instances of 75mm sherman HE that busted a couple of panthers from the side because of the explosive shockwave cracking the shoddy side armor
tribal cairn
Not to mention, DICE's Bipod Mechanics
Kind of suck
Some angles can't get bipoded,
That ledge is too high or too low
mossy badge
I mean, it makes sense in a way.
midnight nimbus
the bipod worked perfectly fine in BF1
tribal cairn
I just can't wait for a PTRD
midnight nimbus
the bipod in BFV doesn't "update" as often
compared to BF1
so that's why it gets stuck on shit or doesn't deploy properly as often
wicked garnet
olive mountain
How aboooout Wz.35 Ur
olive mountain
just another same-ey smg
midnight nimbus
yeah
mossy badge
I want my Solothurn 2000
midnight nimbus
the MAB38 has no quick ADS
RIP
Model 27 has dank af performance
Wz.38 is kinda like a shitty G43
olive mountain
no no no, Wz.35
mossy badge
How about we wait till we actually can see how weapons perform in-game before stating its shitty ?
tribal cairn
I mean, to be fair, there aren't too many semi-auto rifles that compare to the g43 except the Turner or the ZH-23
olive mountain
an AT rifle
solid hinge
cause we can see the stats already
mossy badge
Oh dear, here we go.
midnight nimbus
well the Wz.38 needs a decent amount of change to make it relevant vs the G43
it has kinda better spec options
solid hinge
spreadsheet time!
midnight nimbus
but not good enough to justify giving up detachable mags
olive mountain
how about we make AT rifles deal penetrative damage against players but itsl ower
midnight nimbus
it has marginally less recoil
midnight nimbus
but not low enough where you'll notice a huge difference
tribal cairn
Give AT Rifles 500mps
midnight nimbus
MAB38 is actually kinda ok if you can deal with no quick ADS
tribal cairn
Well it depends o. Armor
solid hinge
if you get up behind a tiger you can screw it with a boys
midnight nimbus
no reason to pick the MP34 rapid fire over it
tribal cairn
On*
solid hinge
I'll pick mab38 probably
tribal cairn
Just hit the engine or tracks
solid hinge
I don't mind lack of quick ads
midnight nimbus
you can stack ADS accuracy specs with good hipfire
or extended mag + hipfire with more hipfire accuracy or more moving accuracy
solid hinge
Doesnt the high velocity spec for it give it like 150 extra or something?
tribal cairn
Not to mention, Tanks are the only thing you could reliably hip-fire with the boys
solid hinge
I heard it was huge
midnight nimbus
i forget
but it's a decent buff
the alternative to high velocity bullets is quick reload
tribal cairn
I might wait on the upgrade until they fix apcr
midnight nimbus
and quick reload is kinda useless
solid hinge
apcr is worth taking to screw around with
tribal cairn
Because I'm big on anti-tank stuff for scout as well
solid hinge
you cant hurt tanks with it but you can still bust components
midnight nimbus
who cares about SMGs, I'm only excited about CHADSEN
tribal cairn
I've actually destroyed light tanks and some even medium tanks
solid hinge
it's funny cause you cant really hurt it but you can really piss them off
gray glade
you mean by default?
gray glade
well it does have 1200 rpm as an upgrade
tribal cairn
Wait shit
solid hinge
if you could ads without bipod you wouldn't be able to do sick hipfires though
gray glade
you get to choose between 1200 rpm or 250 ammo
gray glade
i made the same choice 😄
strong parrot
lmao fucking worthless teammates on the attack side
we get A then we get B and lose A
and rinse repeat until we have 0 tickets lost the third sector...
gray glade
ppl dont wanna risk losing those 500 points bmac
strong parrot
i guess 52-12 wasnt enough to carry
tribal cairn
My team was outnumbered by 20 by the end of the match
strong parrot
this is hilarious
i legit just played support the whole time
using the ls 26
and the last mastery for the boys was counting....
25 kills in a round or 75 kills
i get 25 kills with the ls 26 and it gives me the gold scope
midnight nimbus
1200 RPM MG42 is the only MMG i use
it's just so hilarious
press LMB and the enemy is dead before you can visually track your recoil
tribal cairn
It's like a mobile at-the-ready A-10 Warthog
midnight nimbus
literally fired a real MG42 a few days ago and it has less horizontal recoil than it does in BFV
gray glade
how many kills do you guys generally get per 50 rounds of mg42 fire?
midnight nimbus
and recoil patterns aren't even real irl
gray glade
i can usually hold myself to 7-10 bullets per kill
midnight nimbus
i usually get 3-4ish kills per 50 round belt
gray glade
yeah at longer ranges its kinda tough
midnight nimbus
I can squeeze out 6-7+ on some maps
solid hinge
2
midnight nimbus
but rather just use an LMG
tribal cairn
Holy shit, when did I start looking at the ceiling?
midnight nimbus
literally not even realistic
strong parrot
there should never be recoil
solemn wedge
strong parrot
everything needs to be a laser from star wars
midnight nimbus
spread is way more realistic than fat recoil
tribal cairn
Yeah, I mean at least make recoil for LMGs and MMGs negligible
They're so damn heavy
solid hinge
you mean irl guns have spread instead of being super accurate and just kicking upwards in your arms?
midnight nimbus
clearly in real life, you shoot 3 rounds and you're pointing at the sky
realistic recoil = low recoil
solemn wedge
well if you don't know how to control recoil thats what kinda happens in a fps
tribal cairn
Even when you do control it
solid hinge
with the force some of these guns move your vision upwards if you shot them irl I think you'd cave your face in
solemn wedge
specially on console
tribal cairn
You are looking at least half-way towards the ceiling
gray glade
i thought the exaggerated recoil on some weapons was there to compensate for the fact that its easier to aim in a video game than in real life
so recoil is a way of letting ppl survive longer
strong parrot
👏 no 👏 recoil 👏
solemn wedge
🤔
midnight nimbus
where you watch your tracers
instead of dumb recoil meme
no recoil pattern either
strong parrot
i wouldnt be surprised if you macro in the game tbh just another thing to the already long list
midnight nimbus
had a friend test it out for me
bc you can circumvent spread to recoil conversion
and the recoil pattern
it doesn't give you any performance benefit
your gun is just as inaccurate as before
but it basically makes your gun a BF4 gun
solemn wedge
Lets not recommend to set up macros 
strong parrot
or blatantly grief allies
topaz dome
seriously
midnight nimbus
it's an interesting experiment
strong parrot
but well just ignore that one
tribal cairn
At least in BF4 I wasn't looking at the sky 80 percent of the time
midnight nimbus
return to BF4 gunplay, basically
you can kinda do it manually with something like the MP34 or ZK383
click as fast as possible
your bullets don't go where your reticle points
but no pattern
midnight nimbus
false
tribal cairn
Just point in a general direction
midnight nimbus
shotguns are more aim intensive than autos
sleek solstice
midnight nimbus
"shotguns don't need to aim" is such a shit meme
like if you don't hit your first shot with a shotgun, you're fucked
tribal cairn
Ironic, I got 35 kills with hip-fire
charred heron
Found that the Tommy at single fire is quite accurate, even if you spam the fire button
midnight nimbus
duh
all guns in single fire are accurate
bc you get less spread and recoil
and no recoil pattern
tribal cairn
Single fire is like reading a book, nice and smooth
Auto fire
Is like riding a bicycle on fire
Hoping it doesn't trip over the sidewalk
midnight nimbus
I'm talking about using auto fire and clicking as fast as possible
tbt to when the Thompson was broken
midnight nimbus
Suomi is the only SMG I use
solid hinge
brrt
charred heron
MP40 for longer sniping, Tommy for the rest
tribal cairn
Recon Weapons are pretty good if you don't die after the first shot
charred heron
Suomi is only best because you barely have any recoil with her
solid hinge
That's a big if
charred heron
I love my Medic gameplay
solid hinge
*play trombone for sniping
tribal cairn
Recon fires a shot
Other Recon: INHALE
midnight nimbus
yeah trombone is actually kinda decent
midnight nimbus
it's just a slow SLR you can quick scope meme with
a bad 1895 Trench from BF1 really
charred heron
I found more joy in the silenced rifle
Despite it still firing slower than a revolver
solid hinge
that's cause the ZH is legit better for sniping
midnight nimbus
never having to use the Webley anymore >>>
strong parrot
garand for slr....2 shot weapon with 8 rounds 👏 👏
solid hinge
does it have a bayonet attached to it
midnight nimbus
no
but neither does the Webley 🤷
long barrel Model 27 is gonna be huge for medic
midnight nimbus
Webley should've had a bayonet
tribal cairn
An Underappreciated weapon: The Model 2
charred heron
Balistic knife in BFV when?
solid hinge
I would literally trade my side arm for just a bayonet
charred heron
Shovel charge
tribal cairn
I loved melee-only games in BF1
I flanked around chuckling like a madman
And shanked every person I saw
I actually made it to the top of the scoreboard once
It was glorious
midnight nimbus
I don't think I ever see anyone using the bayonet on PC
charred heron
Storms towards the enemy with a shovel
A loud "thunk" can be heard, with the enemy being completely fugging destroyed
Sounds like fun
solid hinge
Ive been bayonetted 3 times ever
ive bayonetted the same person in one match like 4 times
charred heron
I never got bayonetted so far, i only dish out the stabs
solid hinge
it's weird theres so many recons but just no one uses it
10 recons and im the only person spotting
solid hinge
charred heron
Just a live grenade tbh
tribal cairn
Just beat some poor fucker with a human femur
charred heron
Fun melee weapon
solid hinge
One of the times I got bayonetted was when I was also bayonetting them
so I dont count that time
charred heron
You do fist only on laying enemies
Neck adjustememts, some punching
Usual stuff
tribal cairn
Turns around seeing my friend getting fucking Mike Tyson'd
solid hinge
tfw no bare hands bayonet charge
charred heron
Just german suplex someone to death
solid hinge
you run towards them doing that arm windmill thing
then uppercut and they ragdoll into the air
tribal cairn
When they add the Russians, they won't have their own Weapons
Just a broken vodka bottle
charred heron
Imagine some of the Titanfall 2 melee kills in BFV
tribal cairn
To charge the enemy with
charred heron
tribal cairn
The Russians also get 200% more health due to alcoholism
charred heron
But only 1 in 5 get a gun
tribal cairn
In before we see heavy tanks getting swarmed and eaten alive by wild Soviets
charred heron
Soviet tank armor:
Just add more people
topaz dome
Zapp Brannigan strat
icy sluice
Got 4 kills on Objective D as a Recon before dying from overwhelming odds.
Felt great especially a quick turn Throwing Knife
lean stump
the bayonet is ok it depends on your'e play style
tribal cairn
I still am proud about how I killed someone with a medic pouch
lean stump
how'd you do that ?
lean stump
lol
lean stump
xbox or ps4 cus you can clip on xbox
tribal cairn
PS4.
solid hinge
You can clip on ps4 as well
scenic beacon
@solid hinge Just went back to bf1 and tried out my dud club again... first kill it goes off
solid hinge
Such is fate
scenic beacon
Its SO MUCH FUN to use though, wish bfv had more interesting melee weapons
I just try now to charge the middle point on achi baba and try to get my club to go off on like 6 people
worked eventually
Such a cool weapon
gives a good, meaty thunk too
tribal cairn
Also, I found an awesome place for The Boys
Panzerstorm
Everyone has light and medium tanks
To get around quicker
Just lie down in the tall grass
tribal cairn
And take out their engines
They think it's another tank
I just took out two already
solid hinge
I honestly never see anything on ps4 other than tigers, default barrel churchills and archers
scenic beacon
same on xbox tbh
solid hinge
I havent seen a light tank in weeks
tribal cairn
I've seen a bunch of stags
solid hinge
I've seen a couple of useless stags on my team
On the enemy team its only ever those 3 though
scenic beacon
I remember back when the valentine AA could kill tanks too, good times