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solid hinge
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Nice Nacho

gray glade
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all that typing Nacho, and that was the result 😄

solid hinge
hybrid dragon
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Didn't even really typ tbh

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Was looking for a emoji haHAA

molten vortex
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go to hell

solid hinge
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no u

gray glade
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wait, if you click the emoji button thingy, it says you are typing?

hybrid dragon
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Also lets not talk about political figures etc, it has no place on this server.

molten vortex
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i though you was gon say something important but you were looking for an emoji

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ok chief

solid hinge
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our talk just went a very different way than really supposed to

molten vortex
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totally correct

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hey btw have y'all heard about marxism? its a great thing i swear

solid hinge
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wait what

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what's that

molten vortex
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joking just tryna piss people off

solid hinge
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dont

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ohh

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Nacho is prob looking for an emoji

molten vortex
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again

solid hinge
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Yep

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dont worry about Nacho, worrry about me

molten vortex
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dam why tf is firestorm so dead

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ok now im scared

hybrid dragon
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Also Eli, change your name into something more appropriate, if you fail to do this there will be consequences.

graceful prairie
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i wish the selbstlafder 1916 had a decent scope not that fucking 3x

solid hinge
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i have this game for 2 days rn and i didnt touch firestorm once

molten vortex
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i guess it was about time until someone notices

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k i probably will but i just like how my name sounds so much

solid hinge
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hahahah

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probably you are trying to be edgy

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and failing

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So yeah

molten vortex
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ok is it better now

lament zephyr
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anyone down for Bf5

graceful prairie
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selbstlader 1916 24-3 sector 2 mercury

solid hinge
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Yeah

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its better

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Commie

molten vortex
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thanks i want to have a reference either to r34 or communism in my name

lament zephyr
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Go into BF5 Squad 5 if your down

solid hinge
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im kinda tired

molten vortex
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same stuff and also im on xbox and no one plays on xbox

solid hinge
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really ? is the game dead on xbox

molten vortex
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nah not so much

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mp is alive and well

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firestorm's dead tho it takes 2 mins to find a game

solid hinge
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Do you like firestorm ?

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idc about it

molten vortex
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i really really like it i just dont get to play it

solid hinge
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rn

molten vortex
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since its well dead

solid hinge
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maybe i need to try it sometime

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but for now im busy with mp

molten vortex
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i got bored of mp at this point

lament zephyr
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PC is the place to be

molten vortex
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played a couple of matches on mercury and im like shiet its getting boring

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pc is the place to be indeed

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i just have no money for a decent pc

solid hinge
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I only got to play 6 different maps i think. How many are there

sleek solstice
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fuck this stuttering is annoying

lament zephyr
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Theres like 10 total

sleek solstice
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i hate stutters in bfv

solid hinge
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i saved up for 4 years to get a decent pc.

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but i cant play all games cuz my cpu is pure bottlenecking

molten vortex
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theres like 10 maps but most of them are traaaash

solid hinge
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I like them

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but bf3 maps are better i guess

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I know most of em

sleek solstice
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Rotterdam is probably the heaviest/worst performance map?

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since its a city

molten vortex
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it doesnt feel exceptionally demanding it runs alright even on consoles

solid hinge
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idk. I get most on that snowy map with 2 big villages if i remember correclty i get so many stutters

sleek solstice
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Yeah BFV Stutters are fucking annoying

solid hinge
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rotterdam is pretty bad for me too

sleek solstice
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I am just playing Arras right now

molten vortex
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by alright i mean 40-60fps since thats the performance we get on both xbone and ps4

sleek solstice
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and i keep getting stutters

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Should I have DX12 off or on?

molten vortex
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bf5 only freezes for me when im finishing assignments and stuff

sleek solstice
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I have it on right now

solid hinge
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Yeah i get 50-80 fps but on pc u feel it more if u drop under 60 and the stutters are so irritating rn

molten vortex
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dunno just lock it on 60

formal valve
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Hey guys

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I got a cool little WW2 story

solid hinge
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I get even more stuttering when i lock it on 60 :(

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tell me

sleek solstice
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I play smoothly all the time in BFV
but I get bunch of these stutters some times
and I only lag when there are tons of explosions

lament zephyr
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GPU?

solid hinge
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1070

formal valve
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So my teacher for a class I’m in knows a guy who was on he Bataan death march in the pacific

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When they were on the march, they were going through some mountains and one of their guards was this short angry Japanese guy who kept screaming at them. When the other guards weren’t looking, him and a few others picked him up and threw him off he mountain

solid hinge
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cpu i5 4460. thats my problem

formal valve
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The guards never noticed

molten vortex
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ahahahahha

solid hinge
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lol

molten vortex
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thats a decent story

formal valve
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Take that you damn yellow monkeys lmao

restive token
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LF a fun Platoon or something... I NEED FRIENDS MAN

solid hinge
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No need to be racist to that yellow monkeys

molten vortex
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well my great grandfather is still MIA

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eastern front

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obviously he's dead

solid hinge
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rip

restive token
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which front more exactly

lament zephyr
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Thats a Bruh moment

restive token
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because my great grandfather is MIA as well

graceful prairie
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haha but thats a women name

formal valve
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Inb4 he’s still alive

restive token
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what a plot

lament zephyr
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My Great Great Cousin 4 times removed is MIA

solid hinge
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Ok. sad thing is i only know my uncle and Grandpa and my grandpa. never seen nor hesrd about other familymembers

tender dagger
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Hey, could somebody help me with that tbf airplane mission?

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I play on ps4

solid hinge
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So

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Is the Boys any good

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Xbox is better than PS4

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jk

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Cause I’ve tilted several boys at rifle users

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With th K98

molten vortex
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boys fucking sucks

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its impossible to use at a distance

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is just 100 meters and thats it

solid hinge
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I feel like that’s wrong

molten vortex
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it takes so much time to rotate the bolt your target would have enough time to take a shit and come back

solid hinge
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Fuck snipers

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im rocking lmg

molten vortex
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im rocking mp40

solid hinge
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I mean

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I feel like that’s wrong on both ends lol

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Boys are powerful

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Just their easy to whoop

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So I mean

restive token
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im rocking throwing knives

solid hinge
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Im rocking dying

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I’m rocking iron sight snoring

sleek solstice
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Guys whats better DX11 or DX12 for BFV

solid hinge
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Sniping

molten vortex
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im rocking a hatchet

solid hinge
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Dx 11

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Change my mind

restive token
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11

sleek solstice
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oh well i guess ill switch back then

solid hinge
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Iron sight Long range headshots

sleek solstice
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maybe thats why i have the stutters

solid hinge
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i have higher fps on dx12 but so much more stuttering

molten vortex
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yeah i always put an iron sight on my snipers

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it just feels more correct

restive token
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yh on dx12 the stuttering is real

solid hinge
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Well not always

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I just like the bayonet lmao

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Plus I tilt krags from across the map

sleek solstice
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I hope they once fix the stuttering

solid hinge
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It’s great

molten vortex
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i enjoy a good ol g95 with an iron sight

solid hinge
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ive got a bipod for my knife

charred heron
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There are 2 types of teammates in this game:
Those who know how to play this damn game and those who don't

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Latter make up at least 70% of this playerbase

solid hinge
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i am the later one i guess

molten vortex
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hahahahahah

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yeah right my man yeah right

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totally accurate

charred heron
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Honestly, how can you be so stupid to ask in Conquest what this mode does?

solid hinge
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what to do in conquest tho?

molten vortex
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omg conquest is literally the only game mode in bf5

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the only one that has an active player base

restive token
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well thats what bf is known for

molten vortex
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right

solid hinge
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what do i need to do. Do i need to let those 5 objectives turn red ?

molten vortex
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yeah

restive token
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XD

molten vortex
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blue actually not red

solid hinge
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oh

charred heron
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Conquest is the game mode picked up by people who just want to play something, literal brainlets and people who are too bad for TDM but still want something for their always lonely nights

solid hinge
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than i think i lost

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every time i play conquest

sleek solstice
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So guys whats your favourite map in BFV?

strong parrot
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if the boys is good for anything beyond the meme 1 shots, its making me have more throwing knives and revolver kills GWlulurdMmmYea

charred heron
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None

solid hinge
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i love rush in bf. I only played conquest tho in bfv

charred heron
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Literally none

molten vortex
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arras and that tank one

sleek solstice
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I only like arras because its really colorful

light coral
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Hamada

solid hinge
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i think That bridge map in the Netherlands. Because my performance is good and the map is just pretty fun

charred heron
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I hate all maps to a certain degree, but Aerodome, Hamada and Mercury are literally the worst in every design aspect

molten vortex
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i like arras cos it feels like an actual war

restive token
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am i the only one who likes Mercury tho?

light coral
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Hamada

molten vortex
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mercury is the best looking one but the worst balanced one as well

light coral
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I think Mercury is awesome on cql

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Breakthrough is shit though

charred heron
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Mercury is just bad in every way

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It's on the level of Hamada

solid hinge
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but really. what is breakthrough?

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is it rush?

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mercury sucks on conquest too

molten vortex
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they gon spill the beans on the pacific front next ea play

solid hinge
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it doesnt have enough flank routes

molten vortex
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im excited

charred heron
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@solid hinge BF1 Operations without the cinematic aspect

light coral
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I flank like a motherfucker on Mercury

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Beach life

solid hinge
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Wait. is there rush in bfv or did i just not see it

molten vortex
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yes there is rush on bf5

charred heron
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Seeing Mercury makes me wonder if all the good map designers left DICE a long time ago

molten vortex
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its when you capture parts of the map

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one by one

solid hinge
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i know. But i thought i didnt see it. rush is my fav gamemode

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in bfbc2 by far

charred heron
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Rush had bombs, now you have to defend and attack objectives in a sector

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So basically BF1 Operations

solid hinge
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rush is an occasional weekly game mode

charred heron
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Because Dice knows that the GOs are garbo

molten vortex
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oh well guess im wrong

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my game isnt in english so

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yeah

solid hinge
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really? that sucks. I just want normal rush.

molten vortex
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im wrong

solid hinge
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with bombs

restive token
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whats the most overpowered class? for me is Assault

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you can literally snipe ppl

molten vortex
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support is op

restive token
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put a scope on it

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and you are done

molten vortex
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250 rounds in a mag how is that fair

solid hinge
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I play for 2 days. I got no idea. im rocking support rn

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and bipod on my knife

restive token
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you have to stand still to kill somethign tho

molten vortex
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yeah you just grab a good ol mg34 with an extended belt, lay down in a bush and watch the world burn

charred heron
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@molten vortex Lower RoF, hard recoil and you overheat quite quickly

restive token
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then a guy with assault headshots you from the other part of the map

charred heron
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250 rounds is only for the guys who don't like to reload often

restive token
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how is that fair

solid hinge
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but my bipod on my knife is the best tho

molten vortex
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you put it on a bipod and you never have to reload and your recoil is lower than 90 percent of the guns

solid hinge
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mg34 with extended belt

molten vortex
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ik mg34 only has like 150 rounds

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or 100 dunno

charred heron
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MG34 with extended belt or drums doesn't do much thb

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Just go with the belt

molten vortex
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m1922 has 250 rounds

strong parrot
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drums suck because it limits your view on top WoahTea

solid hinge
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the barrel mag is MUCH cooler

molten vortex
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the drums are not historically accurate

solid hinge
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also comes with the slower overheat option

molten vortex
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they were only used for airplane mgs

solid hinge
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mg34 doesnt have the same firepower or mag size as the other mmgs but it's so fuckin accurate

charred heron
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I kind of went with the MG42 since i unlocked it

solid hinge
charred heron
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It's easy to handle with the 50 round belt and the higher RoF

solid hinge
molten vortex
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mg34 has max accuracy i believe

solid hinge
molten vortex
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i've been really enjoying the 1922 recently tho

solid hinge
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i just express my feelings in emojis

molten vortex
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250 rounds is a killer

light coral
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Man the mg42 was my favorite mmg for the longest time, I've got hundreds of kills with it, and just today I found out I'd been using it with only 2 specializations unlocked

solid hinge
molten vortex
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lol

solid hinge
molten vortex
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honestly specialisations aint fair

solid hinge
molten vortex
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lvl 50 players have an obvious advantage over newbies

solid hinge
molten vortex
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cos specialisations do have a significant effect

light coral
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Specs are so easy to get

molten vortex
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its not like 2 percent boost in accuracy like in other games

solid hinge
molten vortex
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yes they are but still

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its 700cc

solid hinge
molten vortex
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and cc are not so easy to get

charred heron
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You get many credits early on

molten vortex
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especially when ur trying to max out all guns

charred heron
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And your starter weapons already have decent perks

solid hinge
light coral
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You get them for ranking up, lol

solid hinge
light coral
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Never had an issue getting specs

molten vortex
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i did have some issues when i would have no cc to purchase an upgrade

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alright i shall go to sleep now its almost 3 am

solid hinge
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🇳🇱 🇳🇱

molten vortex
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i feel so tired

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and unmotivated

solid hinge
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me2. thats why im sending emojis to serious chats between people

molten vortex
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hahah

solid hinge
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it's the vehicle specs that are broken

molten vortex
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oh yes

solid hinge
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the guns are decent without them

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some of the planes are literally useless untill level 4

molten vortex
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plane specs are so broken

solid hinge
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b2 stuka is a joke

molten vortex
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a maxed out spitfire owns the sky

solid hinge
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until you get the cannons

sleek solstice
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i just got a stutter and i died in bfv

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well shit

solid hinge
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Welcome to the party

molten vortex
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pc gang i guess

drifting marsh
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cannons are a killer fr lol

sleek solstice
solid hinge
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Im on ps4

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It still stutters

charred heron
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37mm Stuka is literally the best fighter in game

solid hinge
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37mm stuka scares me so bad

charred heron
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You lose your anti ground points for the best anti plane cannons in the game

solid hinge
charred heron
solid hinge
molten vortex
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im on xbox it does stutters but not so noticebly

solid hinge
molten vortex
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its like a drop from 60 to 50 and then 40 not so noticeable

solid hinge
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it's in tanks it stutters the most

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less of an fps drop and more of an actual freeze

molten vortex
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nah it only freezes when i finish an assignment

solid hinge
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i got a quad kill in a panzer 4 and the game literally froze for about 6 seconds

sleek solstice
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The only thing that makes me lag on pc is the explosions

molten vortex
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6 seconds>

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what the f

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it only froze for like a second for me

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less than that actually

solid hinge
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usually every time I get a kill in a tank it freezes for a second

molten vortex
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and im on regular xbone

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the og one from 2013

solid hinge
drifting marsh
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i get a 3 second freeze for each kill in firestorm

solid hinge
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the quad kill just.. idk it blew up

sleek solstice
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also the funny thing that my bfv stutters even worse when i play on minimum settings
rather than ultra

solid hinge
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me2 but i get low fps on ultra so i still play on minimum

molten vortex
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ayla u on pro or slim/fat?

solid hinge
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@sleek solstice sounds like a bottleneck

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just like me ;(

sleek solstice
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I play smoothly on ultra but only lags a bit on explosions

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drops to like 40-50

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but normally its 60

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but the stutters are the worst

molten vortex
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oh btw the resolution on xbone is so bad

sleek solstice
molten vortex
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when you look at buildings and theres nothing going on its 1080p

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but when theres stuff going on on screen it drops to 720

charred heron
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Low: Game stutters
Ultra: Everything fine

Just like my GPU trying to tell me that it's not properly occupied

molten vortex
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and you clearly see the difference

solid hinge
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i have 60-80 fps and in firefights with 15 people shooting at once with explosions i get 50 fps

sleek solstice
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Is gtx 1060 and i5 8600k a bottleneck?

solid hinge
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no

drifting marsh
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pc master race right? Happy

sleek solstice
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then i dont have bottleneck

solid hinge
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i dont think so

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i got a gtx 1070 eith an i5 4460

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so that bottleneck is definitely there

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Slim I think

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Definitely not the pro

drifting marsh
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pro is bad?

molten vortex
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pro is good

solid hinge
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if i knew more about pc's when i upgraded my gpu i would probably chosen the gtx 1060 with i5 8600k

molten vortex
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it holds 60fps 90 percent of the time

solid hinge
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I just dont have it

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@sleek solstice how much ram u got ?

sleek solstice
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16gb ram 3000mhz

molten vortex
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yeah bf5 is still a really well optimized game

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since it kinda runs at 60fps at 5 yo machines

solemn wedge
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team slim

solid hinge
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should be capable of running 60 fps constant i would think

molten vortex
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team fat xbone

solemn wedge
sleek solstice
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yeah my bfv runs 60fps on ultra but drops on like 10+ explosions at once

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and stutters because i dont know why WoahThink

solid hinge
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but bf 5 is unoptimized but more optimized than bf1. i get 30-60 fps in bf1

sleek solstice
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is stuttering the games fault?

solemn wedge
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Game is having some fps issues

molten vortex
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dam i loved bf1

solid hinge
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i think so. i heard more people about it

solemn wedge
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So yes it may be

molten vortex
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bf1 was filled with content compared to bf5

sleek solstice
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I hope BFV gets a patch soon with fix maybe

solid hinge
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bro. bf1 is so cool but i just uninstalled it because of bad framerates.

sleek solstice
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I uninstalled bf1 because i had no more space on my pc for it lol

molten vortex
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i uninstalled it because i played the crap out of every map

solid hinge
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i only play bf3 and bf5 rn

molten vortex
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damn it had the mosin rifle

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i just recalled

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i loved bf1 so much

sleek solstice
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also i uninstalled it because bf1 has those fucking dlcs that yuou need to pay for

solid hinge
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bf1 looks so good

sleek solstice
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and i didnt play bf1 when they were free

solid hinge
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rip

molten vortex
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i got all the dlcs for the full price im a huge bf fanboy

solid hinge
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i actually expected bf5 to run worse than bf1 but it runs a little bit better. Only those stutterings are irritating asf

molten vortex
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i never played hardline tho

sleek solstice
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me neither

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oh damn i remember playing bf4

molten vortex
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is hardline even worth trying

sleek solstice
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really good

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in my opinion

solid hinge
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Hardline looks pretty ok to me

molten vortex
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damn bf4 was so great

sleek solstice
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yeah

molten vortex
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my first xbone game

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my fav shooter ever

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oh shit im making them grammar mistakes

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i guess i really have to go to sleep

solid hinge
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never played it. I wanted to buy bf4 but ended up buying bf5 because a friend of me got bfv

molten vortex
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im becoming more stupid each second

sleek solstice
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One thing that i like in BFV is that it loads really fast for me
in BF1 it took like 5 mins to load a game

molten vortex
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yeah fair

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bf5 loads much faster than bf1

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on consoles that is

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but i think bf5 maps are lacking scale

solid hinge
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ikr. I got blown away by the loading screen lol

drifting marsh
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i remember when ps channel made a video about bf1 dlcs being free

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lots of fanboys were talking shit about thafl

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for no reason haHAA

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twice fr

sleek solstice
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Future frame rendering off in dx11 results in really bad framerate

solid hinge
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@molten vortex jsut go to sleep. i should go too maybe

molten vortex
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they did the right thing

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by giving away the dlcs

drifting marsh
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yes

molten vortex
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cos most of them were dead asf at that point

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no one played apocalypse

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no one played turning tides

drifting marsh
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Xd

molten vortex
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alright i will finally put myself to rest

solid hinge
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good night

molten vortex
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thanks

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you have a good one too

solid hinge
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thanks

sleek solstice
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goodnight

solid hinge
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i will go too now. It was nice talking to you guys

sleek solstice
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alright i think my bfv plays much more smooth with no stuttering with dx11

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goodnight ice

solid hinge
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it runs more smoot but still stutters for me

sleek solstice
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i think i will go too in 6 mins

solid hinge
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thanks

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alright. Goodnight

sleek solstice
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goodnight

sour ivy
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anyone bf3 squad up?

junior mistBOT
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:information_source: <> Looking for Players to play with? Head Over to the Looking For Group Channels in the (#LFG) Channel Category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

solemn wedge
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@sour ivy

strong parrot
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fuck AOD people.....the more you have on your team the more you lose

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because apparently i cant hit someone not moving...

amber notch
strong parrot
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oh yeah the match after narvik was panzerstorm wasnt it...but those aod useless twats on my team mage me rage quit that server

solid hinge
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@strong parrot what are those for?

dusky saffron
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@strong parrot >aod

strong parrot
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ahaha cant fucking spawn a tank again

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literally want to banned emote here

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just need 1 fucking kill in a tank to finish this BS

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FINALLY

dusky saffron
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Just do it

strong parrot
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wow

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this fucking

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aod person in a 38t

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drives right into me and i died

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launched all 4 rockets hit him with the gun....smokes popped

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and somehow he ends up killing me before i can kill him ...legit

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self repair doesnt worth either OMEGALUL

solid hinge
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is it normal that battlefield 4 looks a bit blurry on xbox one?

dusky saffron
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Probably not

upper ore
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[BFV] Where the hell do I find special assignment Proficiency? I've looked in special assignments it's not there!

undone harbor
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When a weapon is lvl 5 you get the first proficiency challenge for that gun

upper ore
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Then why doesn't it say that? It's confusing

jagged vector
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It actually will say that if you check the progression on the weapon in question I’m quite sure

upper ore
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Where?

hollow solar
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when you select the weapon in your company

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in the top right corner it has ur weapon level

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click that

upper ore
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I'm on PS4

hollow solar
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unlucky no idea

vestal locust
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All gold on Boys AT Rifle acquired

sacred junco
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literally joined a match 400-200 with all caps taken in Mercury in 4mins

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a fucking snowball map

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best player had 3k points

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Just feels like a map where you can't do shit alone

misty hill
#

Try Narvik if you wanna feel alone

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Or Fjell

sacred junco
#

map ends the moment you lock out the bottom lane and hold c

solid hinge
#

So the boys is a literal cannon

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That right

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What’s the optimal setup for it?

serene patrol
#

That gif actually happens more often on Mercury, starting to really enjoy that map

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Wish it were a bit bigger, but it's way better than most of the other maps on Conquest

formal valve
#

I just held the E flag on Mercury by myself for 10 minutes from a onslaught of British infantry with nothing but my Kar98K, P38 and Switchblade. I took 21 down before a plane strafed me dead

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Thy had snipers up the ASS

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and at one point, before a saint of a bomber dropped a supply drop on my location, i was down to only my knife and throwing blades. I moved toward the building to the north, and let them start capping the objective. I killed 5 with my Switchblade and 4 with my throwing knives

ripe tendon
#

BF1 or BFV, which is better

formal valve
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I defended that position for so long

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At one point I got saddened and tired of seeing the kill feed filled with those ass holes on the hill with Boys firing down in teams on my poor team. So I climbed the hill outside there spawn under heavy suppressing plane fire and took down 5 snipers and one Machine gunner

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Then fell back to E to get more ammo

serene patrol
#

BFV has better UI and more refined gameplay, therefore its better

formal valve
#

I captured a clip of me taking them down

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I had considered smoke.

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But I felt if I was going to defend I might need throwing knives for close calls

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I was right

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Hell, I got so desperate at one point I had to finish a poor bastard with a flare pistol

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He was at like 7 health tho, he didn’t suffer long

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Lmao

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I feel like a veteran recounting his memory

neon kayak
#

hello

formal valve
#

I use Karabiner98Kurtz with ironsights, a Walther P38, a Fallschirmjager blade, sniper combat role, spotting flare and Spawn Beacon

neon kayak
#

Doesn't the ross have the fastest bullet velocity

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hey bepis how you doing

solid hinge
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Boys is great

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It’s literally a BF4 sniper

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Lmao

#

45-0

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By using it like a k98

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Y’all just call it shit

neon kayak
#

I have the BOYS completely golden

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very nice looking weapon

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why do people use the krag

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I find it bad

strong parrot
#

its not a bf4 sniper...those you could use anywhere

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the boys only works with a bipod that only works 43.6% of the time

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and the places the bipod works is hit or miss GWbratWhy

solid hinge
#

How I get custom pfp?

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🤔

tribal cairn
#

Wierd Thing just happened

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I was playing medic and it was near the end of the round,

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I tossed a pouch to heal my teammate,

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And all of a sudden

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257 Points, Enemy Killed, Headshot bonus

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Without a shot fired

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So I now reserve the bragging right

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To say that I killed a guy with a medical pouch

tribal narwhal
#

His sheer medical knowledge killed someone

solid hinge
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Ze only wey to save a life

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Iz to TAKE a life

coral fiber
#

Guys is bf4 premium worth buying?

tribal cairn
#

I mean, I didn't have any problems with it

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It's your choice

lucid maple
#

does this server still do bf1

rancid wadi
#

Something's up with the damage numbers bc I got -98 with a kill marker after the pilot of a plane I was in crashed

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And I keep getting +100 damage and no kill every few firefights

icy sluice
#

I killed a teammate

#

@solid hinge That's the Lewis Gun Predator Skin

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To get it you need to level up the Lewis Gun to like... Level 4 I think

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Level up Support class

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Yes, that's the predator skin

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Seeing as though you have the big mag, go to customize

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You mean the color?

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or the scope?

solid hinge
#

yo

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i want to ask about the state of battlefield 4

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is it alive?

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and is it balanced unlike the garbage called bfv?

formal valve
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BF4 and balanced don’t belong in the same sentence

open portal
#

@solid hinge if you're looking for some BF4 excitement, Level Gaming (formally known as LevelBF) will be running a BF4 32v32 revival tournament. https://i.imgur.com/Urx5EW8.png

sacred junco
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man 64p bf1

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is still a mess

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Hey moratrs

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hey attack planes

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hey ilya muroments

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hey smoke and bomb chokes 24/7

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hey operation spawns that are right on top of the defense points meaning enemies can just spawn into the cap

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you just end up dying more often to bombs that you have no control over rather than guns

#

I just don't miss any of that shit

serene patrol
#

It'd be better if we had BFV bombers in there too

sacred junco
#

game is fun without any of that

serene patrol
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Then I could hide in the sky and kill everyone

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way too many BF1 maps were death tunnels

sacred junco
#

I find the guns and infantry combat general fun

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but Goddamn anything thats not a larger 64p or a small game mode

serene patrol
#

Yeah infantry combat is great, vehicles were good(besides the planes now that I played BFV)

sacred junco
#

is just the same goddamn choke explosion spam

serene patrol
#

like srsly the planes feels like such crap now if you've play BFV

sacred junco
#

How do you win Operations? literally kill everything in a cap before trying anyhting else

solid hinge
#

Actually I disagree

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the planes are pretty good if you select the right upgrades

serene patrol
#

balance be damned, BFV planes fly so much better

sacred junco
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they arent the death machines like in bf1

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where people farm 100 kills a match just dropping frenades

solid hinge
#

I mean honestly they're like BF2 tanks

sacred junco
#

which I am totally fine with

solid hinge
#

but with the War Thunder tank mechanics

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I like that

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You need to be smart with a tank now

sacred junco
#

issue is game heavily favors medium/lights over heavies

serene patrol
#

still buff cannon infantry dmg

sacred junco
#

since heavies have few advantages against mediums

solid hinge
#

Hmm

midnight nimbus
#

I think BF4/BFV tanks are equally fun but problematic

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but in different ways

sacred junco
#

bf4 are like hover tanks

serene patrol
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I dont even care if you cant refill tank ammo, as long as cannons 1 shot infantry I'm good

sacred junco
#

and never liked being forced to choose ap/he

midnight nimbus
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BF4 tanks are hyperinfantry

solid hinge
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whenever I'm in the same room with a BF4 enemy tank I feel like an insurgent against an abrams

sacred junco
#

i can just use canisters if need be

solid hinge
#

That's how terrifyingly OP tanks in BF4 are

sacred junco
#

but still seems to be kinda silly

serene patrol
#

BF3 tanks were better lul

midnight nimbus
#

BF4 tanks aren't OP

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BF3 tanks were

serene patrol
#

^

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unlimited ammo, proximity

solid hinge
#

Never really played BF3

sacred junco
#

and bf4 tank combat are all about moving backwards very quickly

midnight nimbus
#

one engineer can carry enough RPGs to kill two tanks in BF4

solid hinge
#

wait what do you mean by unlimited ammo in BF3 though

sacred junco
#

and spamming defesnive maneuvers quickly and proficiently

serene patrol
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by unlimited ammo I mean never having to wait for ammo to replinish

midnight nimbus
#

BF3 tanks didn't have ammo pool

solid hinge
#

BF4 has the same unlimited ammo thing

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holy shit

midnight nimbus
#

BF4 ammo pool is much more based

sacred junco
#

BF4 has the cache

serene patrol
#

you just fire one shell after another

solid hinge
#

Is DICE actually fucking stupid lol

midnight nimbus
#

you could actually run out of ammo in the short run in BF4

solid hinge
#

That is NOT a good game mechanic at all

midnight nimbus
#

and you actually can run out of ammo in a 1v1

serene patrol
#

Choppers were the same, you could just unload rockets

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5 seconds later, refilled again

midnight nimbus
#

ammo pool is the best vehicle mechanic in BF

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period

solid hinge
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It's either ammo pool or resupply stations

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both I like honestly

serene patrol
#

naaaah lets go back to BF3 ammo

solid hinge
#

no

midnight nimbus
#

resupply station is dumb af

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it's just busy work

solid hinge
#

BF3 ammo is literally just cheating

serene patrol
#

yeah but it was fun so idc

prime pine
#

Weirdly. I enjoy the ammo attrition in vehicles. Not so much with the repairing part though.

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For bf5

midnight nimbus
#

BF3 ammo was fine in the context of the game

solid hinge
#

It's good honestly and there are plenty of 40 - 1 tankers which like it

serene patrol
#

Just have to ban the shitbuckets, then vehicles in BF3 would be better

solid hinge
#

But I played alot of war thunder so

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I perfer it more than the ammo pool

sacred junco
#

ammo pool is harder to manage tbh

midnight nimbus
#

regular 70-0 tanker here, attrition is literally just busywork

#

it's just dumber than BF4 ammo pool but with an extra click tax

serene patrol
#

shitbucket ^

solid hinge
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They're both okay methods

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Like really

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They're both fine, and plenty of games use the attrition method

prime pine
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Im not a perfect tanker but i am capable of high streaks. Just need more ammo stations really.

sacred junco
#

thats just because you farm breakthrough maps that allow you to do with with impunity

midnight nimbus
#

ammo pool achieves a better result, but with less input tax

sacred junco
#

ammo pool force you off field more often though

midnight nimbus
#

ammo pool actually rewards skill much better than the BFV system

serene patrol
#

Mercury only has 1 fucking refill station AT SPAWN

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lmao

sacred junco
#

since you can't shit ammo in succession

midnight nimbus
#

^

prime pine
#

Arras on breakthrough and rush are the worst offenders for vehicle resupply stations.

midnight nimbus
#

yes, and resupply stations result in really awkward flow

serene patrol
#

If the refill stations wernt so terribly spread out it wouldnt be as annoying

sacred junco
#

I do more using a valentine spamming 30+ rounds in 2-3 minutes

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than forced to wait to reload every 5-6 rounds

midnight nimbus
#

there's a lot of breakthrough or rush maps where you don't wanna do anything as a tank bc you know you don't have good access to resupply in the next sector

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so you wanna save it for the next one

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and just do nothing instead

solid hinge
#

The reason why I like resupply stations is because realistically tanks in a battle don't keep on going at it and they normally go back to their base to resupply then come back

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I would rather have that immersion

sacred junco
#

resupply station placements are a bit meandering

midnight nimbus
#

who cares ab realism

solid hinge
#

I mean

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It's cool

midnight nimbus
#

infantry doesn't have to do it

solid hinge
#

They do

midnight nimbus
#

support has unlimited ammo packs

solid hinge
#

And it's not really hard because you're just going to ammo spots at a point

serene patrol
#

if it were realistic, there'd only be a refill station at spawn and no where else

solid hinge
#

I would like that for hardcore

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not normalcore

sacred junco
#

I mean it does force decisions on me since I can't keep pushing caps in certain maps

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where i cant just hug an ammo pool and spam rounds for 70+ kills

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but its too contextual

solid hinge
#

Also it makes the ammo pool a very decisive thing

midnight nimbus
#

ammo pool would really improve BFV vehicle play

sacred junco
#

and very map dependent

solid hinge
#

er, ammo resupply point

midnight nimbus
#

especially since not all weapons are created equal

sacred junco
#

How about this

midnight nimbus
#

why does everything have the same cooldown in BFV

sacred junco
#

still have ammo stock but larger

solid hinge
#

Oooor

sacred junco
#

have an ammo pool system as well

solid hinge
#

Have actual tank rounds like in the older games

midnight nimbus
#

why do light tanks refill their ammo as fast as heavy tanks

solid hinge
#

but you still have to resupply

sacred junco
#

and increase fp and decerase fire rate of tanks in general

midnight nimbus
#

oh bc attrition

solid hinge
#

That's not attrition that's just the component of the same reload timers

sacred junco
#

spamming pea shooter cannons is kinda silly at times

midnight nimbus
#

attrition doesn't fix the lack of proper cooldown and regen

solid hinge
#

I mean

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it's not like removing it will

midnight nimbus
#

bc you force physicality upon refilling ammo

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wasn't an issue in BF4

sacred junco
#

I dont really mind physicality

solid hinge
#

I think additionally though, instead of ammo pool they could make engineers manually resupply tanks

sacred junco
#

and tbh its easier for me than BF4s system

solid hinge
#

with some sort of upgraded ammo crate

sacred junco
#

like in Firestorm?

solid hinge
#

Yeah

sacred junco
#

imagine

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the amount of supports that would do that

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they don't even know how to use a wrench

solid hinge
#

it would be an ammo supply box which has an ammo count

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because infinite ammo boxes might be too broken imo

midnight nimbus
#

just go back to BF4 ammo pool
engineer combat role repping tanks improves ammo pool regen

solid hinge
#

That could also be it

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instead of adding another gadget

sacred junco
#

i want to see if buffing firepower and splash with traded fire rate changes the dynamic a bit

midnight nimbus
#

I don't mind the turret turn rates if it didn't make your aim so fucky sometimes

sacred junco
#

should encourage more heavy tank usage if there splashes are much better

midnight nimbus
#

i don't mind RoF or damage for the most part

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but tanks need to be slightly faster

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tank sprint needs to come back

solid hinge
#

Turret turn rates they took from war thunder lmao

midnight nimbus
#

so you can hit irl max speeds

sacred junco
#

I feel like its a bit heavily skewed towards meds

#

with fast fp

solid hinge
#

I bet they play that shit sometimes and go 'yeah this can fit in BFV'

sacred junco
#

of just directly hitting infantry in quick sucession

midnight nimbus
#

lots of games do turret turn rates

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tank TTK needs to be compressed

#

light tanks really aren't viable enough rn

#

medium tanks can compete against heavy tanks

solid hinge
#

I still can't believe BF3 had literal unlimited tank ammo

midnight nimbus
#

and vice versa

sacred junco
#

still not sure how lights fare

midnight nimbus
#

but light tanks get fukt by medium and heavy

sacred junco
#

had games where i unload 10-15 he rounds as a 38(t) on a churchil

solid hinge
#

I feel like 5 years from now BF will have unlimited pistol ammo or something stupid

sacred junco
#

and watch it not die

#

in cq

midnight nimbus
#

there's nothing wrong with unlimited ammo

#

honestly

solid hinge
#

For infantry?

#

no

midnight nimbus
#

unlimited ammo is based af

#

titanfall executed it perfectly

solid hinge
#

It breaks all fundamental principles of game design

midnight nimbus
#

not really

sacred junco
#

I dunno why they kept the ammo pool for anti titan weapons

midnight nimbus
#

bad players don't benefit from unlimited ammo
good players do

sacred junco
#

and also

solid hinge
#

yeah but you can use this argument for everything that is an obstacle to the player

sacred junco
#

Titanfall was kinda forced to do away with limited ammo

solid hinge
#

i.e, you can say health is also a detriment for skilled players

sacred junco
#

else no one would shoot grunts

solid hinge
#

so maybe just make every dude have no health bar

#

You can also say that spawning only from squad members is a detriment

midnight nimbus
#

faulty logic there

solid hinge
#

might as well them make it so that you can spawn from every player then

midnight nimbus
#

also yeah, squad only spawn is dumb

#

bc good players just squad swap anyways

#

look at top level BF3/4 comp strats

solid hinge
#

It's not about kills

#

It's about teamplay

#

Forget about kdr and help your team by repping and healing

sacred junco
#

teamplay is kind of dead in BF as a franchise

midnight nimbus
#

teamplay is a means to an end

solid hinge
#

Well yeah but

midnight nimbus
#

with the end being shooting people

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which is what shooters are ultimately based upon

solid hinge
#

it's not about shooting people really

#

That's just a means to win the game

midnight nimbus
#

good teamplay enables you to shoot more people

sacred junco
#

and reviving is fairly irrelevant unless there are tickets or danger of squadwipes

midnight nimbus
#

objectives in FPS exist as a means to get people to shoot each other

solid hinge
#

Yeah but you don't remove these means to an end to make it easier to shoot people

sacred junco
#

Some games focus more on the shooting than others still though

solid hinge
#

the goal is to create obstructions to challenge the player

midnight nimbus
#

I'm not saying the means should be removed

solid hinge
#

Making it so that it's easier to be rewarded makes the game very basic

#

Just saying

midnight nimbus
#

but it's dumb when people don't think killing and "teamplay" are mutually inclusive

#

you can't cap objectives without killing the defenders

#

reviving isn't very effective without killing the enemies threatening your revive

solid hinge
#

Fair enough

sacred junco
#

then again its rare to see mortar trucks helping out too much

#

even with 50+ kills in operations

midnight nimbus
#

"teamplay" isn't a set of mechanics

solid hinge
#

I'm just saying that by removing elements for teamplay It's going to make the game worse IMO

#

BF1 had horrendous problems with stuff like this

midnight nimbus
#

CSGO has tons of teamplay

#

zero heals

#

zero revives

#

zero resupplies

solid hinge
#

CSGO is a different game

midnight nimbus
#

but tons of teamplay

solid hinge
#

Always way since the days of BF1942

#

you're comparing apples to oranges

midnight nimbus
#

teamplay is a mentality you want your playerbase to adopt

#

I'm not at all

#

you achieve good teamplay by creating a game where your self interest aligns with helping your teammates

unique crater
#

Remove The Boys OHK

midnight nimbus
#

look at BF3 for some good design

#

you throw down a medcrate to heal yourself first and foremost

#

but that medcrate has a good side effect of helping your teammates as well

#

good teamplay is achieved when helping yourself = helping others

solid hinge
#

I mean yeah but you still do this in BFV

sacred junco
#

With the amount of choices offered for a BF game though

#

giving everyone everything does not guarantee such results

#

without stymieing the excess of individual playstyle

#

to allow for a more cohesive gameplay

solid hinge
#

Yeah see you're going from the mentality - if one can do it, then clearly everyone can

#

That doesn't work all the time

sacred junco
#

because no matter what you will have people who prefer to act passively regardless of the rewards

midnight nimbus
#

Anthem unironically has a better stance on teamplay than BFV

#

"Strong alone, stronger together"

#

epic af

sacred junco
#

I don't think Anthem's issue are with the teamplay mechanics anyways

solid hinge
#

I would recommend you honestly look at Squad for better squadplay and teamplay

midnight nimbus
#

feeling useless bc your team doesn't cooperate sucks

solid hinge
#

(without dismissing it as a teamkilling shooter)

midnight nimbus
#

bc that's out of your control

#

feeling strong bc your team cooperates is awesome

solid hinge
#

Just saw a whole squad of Hanna’s haHAA

#

yeah but the goal is to mold the Battlefield fanbase to actually do teamplay

midnight nimbus
#

compared to other frostbite BFs, BFV is a lot of stick and not a lot of carrot

sacred junco
#

i dunno its a lot less dummying around still compared to most bf games

#

90% of content is around dummying around chokes anyways

#

and farming kills as the 1% vehicle player

#

BFV is a bit less excessive in that front

#

70-80+ kill tanks are annoying, but I prefer that to attacker planes with 100 service starts

midnight nimbus
#

people love to scream about how BF1 is an explosive fest, when in reality, your max explosive output is a fraction of what it is in BF3/4/V

sacred junco
#

Its very hard to see how BF games mechanics truly work in a smaller cohesive setting since most games are clusterfucks

#

Nah

midnight nimbus
#

bc BF1 kinda forgot about the "Strong alone" part

sacred junco
#

i just played BF1

#

a mess

#

Operations

#

dying more often to bombs is not an uncommon occurence

midnight nimbus
#

so you have to circle around to the question

prime pine
#

People sitting in the A7V is a lot more annoying than people in a tiger.

sacred junco
#

In fucking opeartions?

#

where half the maps have definite strong chokes?

solid hinge
#

You know about squads and all

midnight nimbus
#

why do you think BF1 has so much explosive spam when it's perhaps the weakest BF in terms of explosive power?

sacred junco
#

where you are forced to man through to get on top of?

solid hinge
#

maybe they should have been removed for BF1 and the sorts

sacred junco
#

Because you can throw it more

solid hinge
#

think about it - in WW1 there were no squads, first off

sacred junco
#

and explosive powers of bombers were very oppressive

midnight nimbus
#

no, explosive regen in BF1 is pretty slow too

sacred junco
#

Man I dunno man

#

I played BF1 just now

midnight nimbus
#

BF1 bombers are weaker than BFV's

sacred junco
#

feels like an explosive fest still

#

after playing BFV

solid hinge
#

and second of all look at BF1942, had no squads and you can just attack an objective with no worries of your squad not following you or not

#

it works for a casual shooter

#

maybe they should have done that for BF1

sacred junco
#

man I don't know what to say

#

I just don't feel that at all

midnight nimbus
#

like i said: it's bc BF1 doesn't nail the "Strong alone" part

sacred junco
#

if that's the claim

#

I have no idea what to say

midnight nimbus
#

you don't have enough agency as an individual

#

so you feel comfier spamming explosives in a zerg

#

even if it's not that effective

sacred junco
#

besides the fact that somehow I am wrong in supposing the map feels incredibly oppressive

#

while I don't feel as oppressed with it in BFV

midnight nimbus
#

not enough DPS

#

not enough individual zerg breaking ability

sacred junco
#

I cant not zerg

#

How the fuck do you not zerg attacking the last cap of Fao fortress

#

where do you go?

#

Where do you attack?

midnight nimbus
#

yeah exactly, guns aren't good enough

sacred junco
#

when enemies can attack you easily anywhere

midnight nimbus
#

you don't have enough power outside of the zerg

solid hinge
#

zerging is a human nature thing

#

it's only done because humans do it

sacred junco
#

and zergs are just fucked over because lanes are filled with explosives

midnight nimbus
#

other BFs allow you to break from the zerg and do well though

sacred junco
#

and even if you get in

solid hinge
#

Depends but yeah

sacred junco
#

a good bombing wrong fucks over everyone

midnight nimbus
#

and the problem is that BFV moves away from that

solid hinge
#

I mean BFV also allows you to do better without a zerg

#

look at squad revives

midnight nimbus
#

no ammo

#

no explosives

sacred junco
#

i see 5-8 dead bodies pile up instantly from attacker planes regularly

midnight nimbus
#

health attrition

#

meh

sacred junco
#

I rarely died to bombers in BFV

solid hinge
#

I mean

midnight nimbus
#

vs BF3

solid hinge
#

divide the squad members with 4 classes

#

that's easy

midnight nimbus
#

240+ rounds for your AR

#

3 frags

#

9 RPGs

sacred junco
#

I dunno

midnight nimbus
#

no health attrition

#

mmmmmm

sacred junco
#

I found BFV much easier to play

#

alone

midnight nimbus
#

if you wanna break from the zerg, you can do so really effectively

sacred junco
#

BF1 I have no power over huge contested caps in general

midnight nimbus
#

BF1/BFV strip too much power from the individual, just in different ways

sacred junco
#

even if I do some sneaky shit seeing a attacker planes drop nades on me for the 3rd time in a row

#

wiping all medics in the front

#

I don't feel too powerless in BFV really

#

the worst thing is not being able to break forts as medic mostly

midnight nimbus
#

we need a return to BF3/4

sacred junco
#

I don't want that either

midnight nimbus
#

complex teamplay comes after individuals are strong enough to take care of themselves

sacred junco
#

I quit from playing BF4

midnight nimbus
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yeah i can't play BF4 anymore either, but not bc of any mechanics or anything

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RSP ruined the game for me

solid hinge
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You have some interesting opinions

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almost everyone loves RSP and wants it

midnight nimbus
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dude all the NA servers left

solid hinge
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oh

midnight nimbus
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stupid rulesets

solid hinge
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yeah that makes sense

midnight nimbus
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or they auto ban you for stats or some shit

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can't play EU PC with my friends bc ping kick or equally bad rulesets

solid hinge
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DICE stopped their official servers for BF4 right?

midnight nimbus
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no nice vanilla experiences left

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closest i can get to vanilla BF4 is TDM, but that gets old sometimes

sacred junco
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yeah I hate RSPs

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limited server rules I can handle

midnight nimbus
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weapon/gadget bans are so AIDS

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any tampering to vehicle spawn rate makes the game unplayable

round latch
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Iam hopping back into bf5. Any recommendations for guns. This probably an annoying question

midnight nimbus
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or to ticket count

solid hinge
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RSPs are good when they have actual rotation servers with people and normals

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but the metro spam ones are horrendous

sacred junco
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I mean CoD Blops I remember added servers

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and a year down the line nothing besides hardcore rp servers, and nuketown

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and like one normal server that rotated 3 maps-one of them being nuketown

solid hinge
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depends

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in BF4 you had servers like MiA which were active with people

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(now dead though RIP)

sacred junco
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i just don't have faith in the majority choosing what (I) want Sad

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Id much prefer having the good and the bad of official rotations

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than people deciding what they want to play

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i guess it is inevtiable

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but still

midnight nimbus
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map rotations aren't the worst part of RSP

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I don't mind 24/7 servers

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i don't like them

solid hinge
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They're also really good for clans

midnight nimbus
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but i don't hate them

slate carbon
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why are the servers so ass?

midnight nimbus
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it's the modified rulesets i hate

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and the fact that badminning can exist

solid hinge
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oh yeah

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I forgot about fake player counts for a minute

sacred junco
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Not the one to rant about creator's "vision" but its hard to tell what the game was supposed to be like with double tix servers and insta respawn with weird rules

midnight nimbus
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oh yeah server seeding is AIDS too

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everything looks like 63/64

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in reality there's only 3 people in every server

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epic

solid hinge
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If you're on battlelog always use a plugin to really check

sacred junco
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why is that a thing really

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server seeding

solid hinge
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I have no idea honestly

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I think it's to get people to think that BF4 is really active

midnight nimbus
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yeah but having to use a browser plug-in just to make a game playable

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very cool

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it was okay back when BF4 was active

sacred junco
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hey ppl miss it now tho

midnight nimbus
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getting a 48/64 server to fill up fast

solid hinge
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only reddit though

prime pine
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I wish they made the bleed out and respawning time reliable.

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Cause