battlefield-legacy-titles

[charred heron]

Enemies can go way too deep into the attacker main spawn

[solid hinge]

also what

you don't really grind in tf2

[charred heron]

Barely any cover and poor visibility

[solid hinge]

I've played tf2 for 5 years

[charred heron]

The overflow of snipers with the Boys AT....

[midnight nimbus]

FPS communities are too small brain to do good things

every game has its outlier community

[charred heron]

Latter was never taken into account by Dice

[solid hinge]

See I think you're being too cynical

[exotic yoke]

Hey, I heard the U.S.A is coming to the game in the fall of this year, is that true?

[solid hinge]

It can work but it would need to have a different mindset

[midnight nimbus]

FPS is the smallbrain genre for a reason

[frank loom]

wrong term usage, afk for boxes, similar concept redirected towards BF, as if CA had objectives

[solid hinge]

Those exist lmao

[midnight nimbus]

you don't need a brain to play FPS well

[solid hinge]

idle maps and trade maps do the same thing

[midnight nimbus]

vs something like fighting games

[sacred junco]

can confirm

me brain small

[midnight nimbus]

you need to understand the game mechanically to do well in a fighting game

[solid hinge]

Camping snipers fucking great 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁

@exotic yoke Japanese vs US

[midnight nimbus]

or RTS

[solid hinge]

Well yeah

[sacred junco]

except I suck at Overwatch

[exotic yoke]

@solid hinge N i c e

[solid hinge]

Isn't this the same with an FPS but on different degrees

[sacred junco]

so im just small brained

[solid hinge]

yeah that's why i like fps the most I don't have to be some big brain genius

Yay our team has 10 players while the enemy twam has 32

[midnight nimbus]

Overwatch isn't an FPS

[hoary condor]

[midnight nimbus]

it's a MOBA designed as one

[sacred junco]

and even then most competitive games have a huge physical hurdle before you can use brain

[hoary condor]

you are harder to find 👀

[dense bone]

its not a moba at all...

[frank loom]

overwatch was an fps but updates made it a MOBA

[coral fiber]

I like how people are complaining about camping snipers
I've always did that since 4

[solid hinge]

Nobody really plays these games I see

[dense bone]

not even close, wtf xD

[frank loom]

meta compositions, one healer, etc

tank, dps

[midnight nimbus]

^

[dense bone]

its a class based shooter

[frank loom]

it is most definitely a moba

[coral fiber]

That's what a sniper is lol

[solid hinge]

kht are you like

14

no offense

[midnight nimbus]

OW MOBA composition is basically what people wanna turn BF into

I'm 22 tyvm

[dense bone]

moba has in game progression, minions, jungles, farming, goals

[frank loom]

well obviously not 1 for 1, that's what he meant as it being disguised as one

[hoary condor]

i want to shoot my mp40

[dense bone]

its a class based shooter

not even close to a moba

[sacred junco]

Y'all need to define MOBA before this tangent

[dense bone]

the only thing moba like in OW is having stylized defined characters

thats it

[sacred junco]

because i bet everyone has different standards for that definition

[dense bone]

battleborne was a moba shooter

[midnight nimbus]

class based shooter implies some sort of choice

[solid hinge]

My team is so trash. British are at a disadvantage amd yet we are still losing

[scenic beacon]

that game was FUN

shame it died fast

[midnight nimbus]

OW is beyond R6S levels of RPS balancing

[dense bone]

literally anyone that has played the two for more than 5 hours will laugh at "overwatch is a moba shooter"

[solid hinge]

Overwatch Is a team based shooter like TF2

[frank loom]

like i said, it's obviously not a traditional moba, but enough similarities to categorize it as one. overwatch as an fps is honeslty meme

[solid hinge]

not a full TF2 clone

but it has it's roots

[dense bone]

saying OW is a moba isnt even a meme, thats a joke of a statement

[frank loom]

truth hurts i guess

[dense bone]

paragon and battleborne are moba shooters

this is #general at this point

[frank loom]

true

[scenic beacon]

yeah

[weak violet]

Hello

[dense bone]

but i think you two are asinine to consider OW a moba

[frank loom]

nope, just not delusional

[midnight nimbus]

it's a bit of a meme, but the MOBA influences general outweigh the actual shooting part

anyways back to BF

[solid hinge]

I also think you're wrong

but anyways

[frank loom]

if you keep thinking of the traditional moba format, than of course it's not, but you keep viewing it that way

[solid hinge]

wake island BFV

[midnight nimbus]

BF would actually be a cool RTS

you have imbalanced asymmetric vehicles and faction weapons are already different

[sacred junco]

BFV has some similarities to CoH

everything up to building fortifications

and flags

[midnight nimbus]

honestly there are a lot of things in CoH i'd like to see in BF

that would translate well

[sacred junco]

call ins?

[hoary condor]

the fortifications for bfv are so well done

[sacred junco]

resources tied to caps?

[midnight nimbus]

fortification system in BFV is a direct rip from Squad

[solid hinge]

I think I talked about something similar yesterday

[midnight nimbus]

CoH suppression is woke af

[solid hinge]

I guess one way to improve something like this is have each team have various assets

like artillery which can be used to fire at enemies

[midnight nimbus]

assets are fine in RTS when one player has agency over everything

[solid hinge]

(like frontlines)

Well I mean they're near the base

[midnight nimbus]

allocation in a MP PVP FPS environment gets annoying

[solid hinge]

It's like the frontline assets

[midnight nimbus]

like who wants to sit by base all day and man the artillery

it's like the BF3 base AA

[solid hinge]

That's not what I said at all

[midnight nimbus]

who tf wants to do that

[sacred junco]

they could try to implement a sort of escalation mechanics

[carmine eagle]

Help, I burnt my cheburek

[sacred junco]

where they get more stuff over time

already there with the call ins

[carmine eagle]

Seriously, help

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[sacred junco]

but call ins are kind of bonked

at least imo

very annoying in certain modes and maps

[carmine eagle]

Anyone who knows about Russian cooking, please help

[solid hinge]

They're similar to BF2 commander mode but delegated towards squad roles

[carmine eagle]

Wait, wrong chat

[midnight nimbus]

commander mode 🤮

[solid hinge]

Anyways

You didin't let me finish

You basically have actual working artillery points at each base which when interacted with shoot at spotted enemies - it only extends to the half of a map and they can be destroyed / repaired at any time

And then you have things like a radar for each team

Which spot enemies nearby

[midnight nimbus]

so like the logical extension of stationary guns?

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[sacred junco]

maybe a lil to complicated

more complex pieces more easily exploited in a 64p casual game

[solid hinge]

Somany fucking default skin shotgunners

tfw no commander

yeah that's the thing

[sacred junco]

and maps too

BF is streteched thin conceptually

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 commander was kinda cool bc you could play on the toilet

[sacred junco]

and it canot appeal to everyone anymore

[solid hinge]

Maybe when a team captures all points then they have access to these guns though?

[midnight nimbus]

but commander mode is ultimately kinda dumb

[solid hinge]

bf4 commander while on the toilet is the pinnacle of gameplay

guys go to Call Of Duty channel and see their new video :)))

[midnight nimbus]

^

[solid hinge]

fire two cruiser missiles at once

cough

@solid hinge advertising is a nono my friend

[midnight nimbus]

commander mode is also really unbalanced when one side has one but the other doesn't

[solid hinge]

or like.. put it in #general at least

[midnight nimbus]

playing 27v32 is perfectly fine

[solid hinge]

I think we should switch Battlefield towards a game where it matters to have stuff like this

Yeah that was the biggest problem with commander

[midnight nimbus]

one side with a commander and one side without is just incredibly dumb

[sacred junco]

then it'll probably be less popular

[solid hinge]

Like, we shouldn't really idiot proof stuff like this

If you didnt have one and the other team did you were at a massive disadvantage

[midnight nimbus]

everything should be idiotproofed as possible

[sacred junco]

adding a lot of burden towards coordination amongst large plyares

[solid hinge]

if you could freely swap between commander and regular gameplay then it might be more popular

[sacred junco]

is something geared towards specific audience

[midnight nimbus]

BF needs to be made much more accessible

less obscure to get into in general

[sacred junco]

as a AAA game its hard to sell that kind of game

[midnight nimbus]

higher skill ceiling, higher skill floor

[sacred junco]

possiblle for a smaller competitive game

[royal gull]

If the next BF is modern day it needs to be more than just US/EU vs Russia/China

Need Middle Eastern enemies again

CODMW reveal brought back so much nostalgia

[midnight nimbus]

the trailer looks incredible 😩 can't wait to stop playing BF

[sweet fulcrum]

[hazy wasp]

with CoD going super serious, we gettin bad company bois

perfectly balanced

[solid hinge]

Disappointed in the lack of new music for Mercury

[midnight nimbus]

there's no negative outcome to FPS in the next few years

next BF has to be good to compete

[hazy wasp]

dumb ass skins and cosmetics for Bad company works super well

think of the melee options lol

one of those lawn flamingos

clcok a bush wookie on the head and steal his tags

[hoary condor]

i want ghillie skin for snipers/sllrs

[scenic beacon]

I just want a few canadian uniforms

[midnight nimbus]

holy shit the new Modern Warfare reads like a list of everything i wish BF were like

[solid hinge]

link?

to the gameplay article at least

[midnight nimbus]

moving back to 100hp and auto regen 😩

well it's not everything I wish BF were like

but it's a lot

[spiral prism]

@midnight nimbus take it to the proper channel

[midnight nimbus]

RELOADING WHILE AIMING DOWN SIGHTS IN BF WHEN

[dense bone]

get this cod out of my bf

[frank loom]

hopefully it feels like mw2

[dense bone]

[midnight nimbus]

gritty campaigns in BF when

[hoary condor]

don't post cod things in #battlefield-legacy-titles come on dude

[midnight nimbus]

just saying it's good inspo for BF 🤔

[hoary condor]

nah...

[midnight nimbus]

reloading in ADS would be awesome in BF

[hazy wasp]

Make battlefield silly again

[solid hinge]

the new COD's campaign

[hoary condor]

Fav place to landon Halvoy

?

[solid hinge]

i hope to god it's all true

it looks okay I guess

so tired of fairy tale campaigns

[dense bone]

@hoary condor fuuu i havent checked the new locations

[sweet fulcrum]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1134118738209509377
this must be posted here

[solid hinge]

give me something visceral and gritty

[midnight nimbus]

i mean I can reload a AR-15 while ADSed irl

why not BF

[hazy wasp]

fairy tale campaigns?

[dense bone]

its a game

[solid hinge]

same old 'us army goes to middle east to shoot brown people' thing

[midnight nimbus]

but that's not the campaign... 🤔

[sweet fulcrum]

remember, rank increase community broadcast drop tomorrow

[hazy wasp]

Battlefield stuff was at its coolest when you were fighting russians

or vice versa

[solid hinge]

MEC rise up

[hoary condor]

@dense bone why? they have been out long enough lol

[solid hinge]

we need the MEC again in Battlefield

[hazy wasp]

We need Battlefield 2143

[solid hinge]

They were supposed to be in BF3

[midnight nimbus]

2143 would be epic

[hoary condor]

purple field place is lovely

[dense bone]

just been playing other games squid

[midnight nimbus]

3D spotting coming back 😩

[dense bone]

yea i wanna go there

maybe ill play today

[midnight nimbus]

good vehicles 😩😩

[dense bone]

3d spotting isnt irl

[hazy wasp]

3D spotting IN squad would be fantastic honestly

[solid hinge]

reloading in ads
Ewwww

[hazy wasp]

actually contextual spotting like apex

[solid hinge]

contextual spotting?

[midnight nimbus]

Metal Gear passive spotting is the ideal

[solid hinge]

you mean pinging?

[midnight nimbus]

yeah Apex spotting is awesome

[hazy wasp]

if you spot objects in the environment you can call shit out

like an open door, a weapon etc

[solid hinge]

Ohh yeah

[hazy wasp]

or saya watchtower

[hoary condor]

Anyway lovely people i have too shoot off for the last train, take care and fight hard

❤

[dense bone]

adios squid

[hazy wasp]

so instead of just spottign a watchtower, with a sniper in it you spot said watch tower and your soldier says to your squad Sniper, watchtower (give NSEW degrees)

[midnight nimbus]

a hybrid of Metal Gear spotting and Apex pinging would be ideal

[dense bone]

ideal for you

[midnight nimbus]

bc then you'd never have to use VOIP to specifically get your point across

[dense bone]

im perfectly fine with the system now

[hazy wasp]

I think using voip is fun

[midnight nimbus]

BFV ping is just a Walmart version of Apex's

[hazy wasp]

but not havign to would increase teamwork across the board

[dense bone]

i think adding a bunch of system is not fitting for bfv and just takes away from actual communication

[solid hinge]

I cant kill 3 people in 1 life because no one revives me

the cod campaign mentions gassing villages

[hazy wasp]

Oh the CoD game looks Fascist as fuck honestly

[solid hinge]

that was a huge deal back in the 80s

[dense bone]

something like apex has a setting for it, and a need imo

[solid hinge]

Interested that they're doing that

[midnight nimbus]

Apex ping could easily be retrofit into BF

[dense bone]

itll be so fun in bfv to hear 30+ people pinging "kalibri here"

[hazy wasp]

the vocie lines would be rough

[solid hinge]

I mean

[hazy wasp]

thats the best thing about Apex's ping system

everythign is voiced

[solid hinge]

spotting won't be able to hear for everyone

remember when everyone would go ENEMY FORCES SPOTTED

[midnight nimbus]

especially how you can double tap the ping button to ping for enemy

[solid hinge]

ENEMY FORCES SPOTTED

[midnight nimbus]

i'd love to be able to ping my crates for teammates

[hazy wasp]

Audio cues are really important in games

[dense bone]

in a resource game, apex pinging makes sense, for bfv, not really

[midnight nimbus]

is BF not a resource game?

[dense bone]

thats ignoring the settings

[midnight nimbus]

being able to ping crates would be epic

[hazy wasp]

even a stripped down halfway house of Apex's one would work for BF

[dense bone]

you dont drop into a game looking for a gun/armor/health/ammo

yes after a point you might need one of the things above

[hazy wasp]

no but you could apply Apexs system to other stuff

[dense bone]

but it isnt a core design that you NEED to look for those

[hazy wasp]

Yes but you could context ping to a squadmate

''help me build this fortification''

[midnight nimbus]

"ammo is here"

[hazy wasp]

yep

or to a medic

downed ally

[midnight nimbus]

and contextual ping is epic

"enemies in this house" vs "let's go to this house"

[dense bone]

the only thing that would be nice is ammo/health crate

[solid hinge]

spent 5 minutes in the queue for mercury

[hazy wasp]

hell even a ''HOLD'' command

[solid hinge]

this is the longest time I've ever had to wait for a gamr

time to remove mercury for not having a playerbase

[dense bone]

people ignore the ping on the tank all the time

[hazy wasp]

the amount of times I am waiting at a point when the entire enemy steam is running past and my teammate spawns on me runs out and gets murdered by 15 guys

[dense bone]

i think youre wishful thinking that people are gonna listen to hold, people here, ammo here, etc

[hazy wasp]

Trust me, even dingbats in Apex followed it 50% of the time

[dense bone]

yea when its a br with a team of 3

not when its 32vs32 in tight quarters with planes and tanks going around

[solid hinge]

it could still apply to your squad

might encourage squad gameplay

[midnight nimbus]

it's not gonna make randoms that much more helpful

[dense bone]

^

[midnight nimbus]

but it would make teamplay with your friends better

[hazy wasp]

it'd onyl apply to your squad

[midnight nimbus]

so still a net gain

[hazy wasp]

also Squad leaders should see other squads objectives

[dense bone]

"but it would make teamplay with your friends better"

when any decent squad with friends is gonna be in voice and can ignore it

[midnight nimbus]

voice is unnecessary with friends a lot of the time

[dense bone]

...

[hazy wasp]

some people don;t want to go on voice chat for w.e reason

[midnight nimbus]

bc you already correctly assume what your friends will do

[hazy wasp]

also heres a massive thing

Language wouldn;t matter

[midnight nimbus]

I automatically mute randoms

[solid hinge]

Conquest mercury > breakthrough mercury

[dense bone]

how are you gonna say voice is unnecessary but say apex ping system is?

[hazy wasp]

in Europe anyway you play with lots of people who don;t speak english

[midnight nimbus]

Apex ping system is faster than voice

[hazy wasp]

they could easily then give commands ask for help etc

[midnight nimbus]

faster to double tap a button on a house than describe what house you're looking at

[dense bone]

you can still ping direction, and say enemies

yes one is faster

[hazy wasp]

Also unless you trim down chat voice is inefficient because not everyone uses military speak lol

[dense bone]

but youre literally arguing teh difference of less than a second

[midnight nimbus]

less than a second is still a big deal

[dense bone]

in a casual game like bfv?

[iron jungle]

thats what she said

[dense bone]

if youre going pro status worry about it

[solid hinge]

Are we really arguing about the importance of voice chat

jesus dude

I just want to talk with my fellow soldiers randomly

you guys are too uptight about stuff like this

Just play the game

[hazy wasp]

Im not arguing anything to do with voice chat i was just saying a better context ping system would be a net gain for the game

[solid hinge]

I would support that yeah

[midnight nimbus]

honestly voice with randoms is really useless a lot of the time bc they don't understand your callouts or what you're gonna do a lot of the time

[hazy wasp]

then its settled

[dense bone]

and im saying its not necessary and out of place in a bf game

[hazy wasp]

[solid hinge]

I just think that removing voice chat in leiu of this is kinda eh

we should have both

because voice chat is also fairly helpful

[hazy wasp]

i never said remove voice chat

[solid hinge]

sorry

[dense bone]

the only argument was that with a better ping you wouldnt need voice

[solid hinge]

Well, in some instances voice works

[midnight nimbus]

I don't think VOIP should be removed

but i don't think it's necessary

[solid hinge]

for instance, screaming for your squad mate to back the vehicle or stop

I do this alot

it works

[midnight nimbus]

I wish I could just have a setting to auto mute everyone

I use discord for VOIP anyways

[hazy wasp]

honestly the fact we don;t have a Warnign to allies when we are downed is dumb

[solid hinge]

you can just turn voip off lmao

[midnight nimbus]

i hate having to manually mute people every time

[hazy wasp]

''NOT SAFE''

[midnight nimbus]

oh wait you can turn off VOIP

welp

should probably do that

[hazy wasp]

nah keep it on

[midnight nimbus]

i never want to hear randoms

[hazy wasp]

sometimes you need that ''everyone in squad flicks mics on'' were gonna take this seriously now bois

thats one thign V thankfully has back

[midnight nimbus]

muting my friends isn't a problem bc we use discord anyways

[royal gull]

I've turned off VOIP for a decade now

[hazy wasp]

''fuck this lads, we're not losing to this bag of scum''

[solid hinge]

now you'll never hear me scream for you to stop the tank so I can get in

rip

[midnight nimbus]

why do i need people in my tank

tanks are one man vehicles, aside from the Sturmtiger

[hazy wasp]

a support monkey toi repair you in big tank fights

[midnight nimbus]

you don't need VOIP to rep monkey

just basic intelligence

[solid hinge]

no I need VOIP to scream at you to stop the tank

[hazy wasp]

voip isn;t inherantly bad now honestly

[midnight nimbus]

my friends and i don't need VOIP to play tank + rep monkey

you just have a basic understanding of what you need to do

[hazy wasp]

a term i have heard recently was 'Rocketing' for tank repair guys

like Rocket on groots shoulder

both confusing and brilliant

[random rock]

you just have a basic understanding of what you need to do

you mean that thing the majority of the playerbase doesn't have?

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, which is why i don't care to communicate with randoms anyways

[hazy wasp]

like if stuff as complex as rainbow six can catch on Battlefield can add some compelxity

[midnight nimbus]

R6S is kind of a shit meme tbh

even the pros hate so many mechanics

OHSK with all guns, amazing

[solid hinge]

it was a solid game but it was ruined over updates

I assume codified

i'm going to attempt to jihad jeep in BF4 anyways see ya guys

[dense bone]

imagine being mad that having better aim in a shooter is being complained about

[random rock]

good luck, come back in one piece!

[hazy wasp]

MEC, Jihad Jeep

haha

that got me

[solid hinge]

Well I did do it yesterday

killed some dude repairing his tank lmao

also had an EOD bot

[icy sluice]

iirc "jihad jeep" is not allowed.

Saying it here that is

[solid hinge]

Oh

explosive jeep then

It's harder in BF1 and BFV isn't it

[hazy wasp]

nah V is on point

[solid hinge]

How would you maneuver it in BFV then?

[hazy wasp]

dive out earlier

have the Dynamite in hand as im in jeep so its on by default when I dive out

hit the back of the vehicle

[midnight nimbus]

nah OHSK in R6S is a shit mechanic @dense bone

you get ez luck sprays all the time, and OHSK remains through cover

it's fine in CSGO bc there's counters (helmet)

and bc CSGO has a spread model that makes missing the head on your first shot punishing

[solid hinge]

Does it kill the tank though?

[midnight nimbus]

R6S headshots insta kill everything

R6S gunplay is basically just hold LMB at face level

[dense bone]

if its luck sprays than everyone has the same chances, so again, better aim is more beneficial

[solid hinge]

Anyone still play PS3 Battlefield 4?

wow I did awful that round at least we managed to clutch a win
top of team

why does this happen

[midnight nimbus]

OHSK with 1200 RPM guns and no spread

mmmm so skill

[solid hinge]

Oh shit PS3 BF4?

I wonder if my PS3 works

[dense bone]

everyone should use the gun in that case, and the person with more skill will win

[solid hinge]

only console I've really ever owned besides the wii

I’m poor

Can’t buy PS4

I switched to PC gaming right after honestly

[dense bone]

these factors are the same to everyone

[midnight nimbus]

all guns in R6S are no spread and insta headshot

the issue is the lack of risk given the reward of the headshot

CSGO gives you a huge risk for going for the insta kill headshot

[dense bone]

again, the better players will have a higher chance of winning

[midnight nimbus]

as always, but it introduces a huge amount of skill compression

the worse player that misses the first shot isn't heavily punished

[dense bone]

considering r6 has a lot to it vs aim mechanics that sounds fair to me

[midnight nimbus]

yeah R6S gunplay takes a huge backseat to everything else

shooting isn't nearly the most important part

but i kinda like how BF1/CSGO treat headshots

i think it's a very appropriate level of risk vs reward

[scenic beacon]

but bf1 also had sweet spots

[dense bone]

bf1 doo doo

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 headshot risk/reward was based af

[dense bone]

clarification, bf1 game designs were doo doo

[midnight nimbus]

if you miss your first shot to the face, you have to restart your burst

BFV gunplay is kinda the logical extreme of BF1's in many ways

BF1 movement was kinda doo doo by the end tho

[lyric nimbus]

I feel like bf1 was made to be relatively casual compared to most other games

[dense bone]

it seems it was made to look cool more than anything

[solid hinge]

BF1 had excellent character design

[lyric nimbus]

Fair

Ew no

[solid hinge]

like I remember the open beta and it was like

oh shit

[dense bone]

it ticked all the boxes outside of gameplay design

[lyric nimbus]

Bf1 has doo doo singleplayer

[solid hinge]

and then I want to play it again

but then when I do i get bored after 25 mins

[lyric nimbus]

It's a bit too sweaty

[dense bone]

bf1 focused on everything other than gameplay imo

[lyric nimbus]

I wish there were fewer 100 star pilots

[solid hinge]

TBH

not really too sure what they mean by gameplay depth in BF1, so I'll ask

why is BF1 less in depth gameplay wise

[lyric nimbus]

Some maps are better than others

[solid hinge]

tfw the last 4 throwing knives you get either have blood but no hitmarker or hurt someone without killing them within 10 metres

fock this

[lyric nimbus]

I feel like it's kind of a dice roll as to whether it will be any fun or not

Depending on what the servers like

Really toxic community

But Damn the guns feel amazing

I like bf1

It has flaws but it's a really good game imo

[solid hinge]

I'm really not fucking liking mercury breakthrough

This isnt fun for either side on sector 1

[lyric nimbus]

Throwing knifes?

throwing knifes

[coral fiber]

And there's the people complaining about camping snipers... Like ugh it's a sniper cmon people

[solid hinge]

heehee

[coral fiber]

Wtf are they suppose to do

[lyric nimbus]

Damn maybe chapter 5 will add shurikens

[solid hinge]

Camping with a sniper in bfv is a death sentence

[coral fiber]

^

[lyric nimbus]

Good

[coarse thunder]

As all things should be

[coral fiber]

Someone's gotta take out the camping mmgs

[lyric nimbus]

I probably won't be getting bfv depending on the way dlcs go

[solid hinge]

tfw the game takes so fucking long to spawn you into a plane that you crash into the ground and die before you gain control

[coral fiber]

I've been getting nasty snipes from across the map lol

[solid hinge]

now im stuck watching my corpse float

[coral fiber]

@solid hinge I've been having that too

Only for the British side tho

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[coral fiber]

Never on the german

Same with hamada too

Annoying af

[solid hinge]

The planes come in pointing downwards for some reason

I have to pull up really hard every time

[coral fiber]

Idk why it does that

But

[solid hinge]

shit design

[coral fiber]

Fix plane spawn pls

And plane physics in general

I don't even need radar lol

[teal phoenix]

Bruh why is Frontlines gone

[coarse thunder]

The "untrained German pilot 1944" experience of spawning with the nose pointed won

[teal phoenix]

my xp farm

[grizzled stag]

sooooooo, what constitutes a "Reinforcement" in Firestorm?

those flare guns that summons stuff?

[coral fiber]

Idk

[coarse thunder]

Think so

[grizzled stag]

@teal phoenix Frontlines is gone because it was to much fun

and possibly because it gave xp as people there usually followed the objective

[teal phoenix]

sigh

[solid hinge]

tfw no frontlines

[teal phoenix]

hopefully they reintroduce it again. Would've been nice to play Mercury on Domination or Frontlines

[grizzled stag]

I was my second most favorite mode, just after breaktrough

but alas, DICE seems to hate me a lot

[teal phoenix]

I was just getting into Domination too

The infantry focused action was a nice change

[grizzled stag]

they could at least have made a Domination/Frontlines server, but nope

[solid hinge]

What’s better sniper or pathfinder

[grizzled stag]

pathfinder

all the way

[knotty notch]

Brace yourselves. Word "pillar" is censored ingame. I mean seriously...

[grizzled stag]

or well, I guess the Boys + Sniper "spot enemies you hit" might be nice

@knotty notch it could mean dick

erhm, I mean, Richard

[knotty notch]

yes, and hole can mean vagina

[grizzled stag]

obviously

[knotty notch]

get real

[grizzled stag]

I was trying to joke 😦

ohh is banned too, as "hh" is a bad thing

[knotty notch]

ok, now it mnakes more sense 😉

yes also" oh hi"

ohh i seen on day 1

😄

[solid hinge]

I’m going to put my pillar in your hole

[knotty notch]

awsome 😄

[sterile ledge]

furries

how are ya

[grizzled stag]

do anyone here actually know with part of "pillar" is banned?

ill?
pill?
lar?

[solid hinge]

I actually have no idea tbh

I wonder why too

[hazy wasp]

its probably from some central database

ran bya servicde that theyt just plug into the chat engine

[solid hinge]

no really which part of pillar is a bad word

ohh

It's a keyword of sorts?

just had to pick up every single fucking bomb on airborne

hamada airborne fucking sucks

hamada sucks

i hate this dusty ass map

even covered in fog its ugly

skree

[haughty pawn]

i ❤ hamada

mercury = quit/yes

[sterile ledge]

[knotty notch]

@grizzled stag i tried ingame parts of it, none was, just the whole word

[solid hinge]

I like hamada

only on conquest

I have a feeling everyone after 2 years will like hamada

maybe if they remove the haze

[sacred junco]

Individual elements of Hamada's caps are fun

the layout is wonk and disjoitned

The cap points are usually genuinely fun to contest for most

[knotty notch]

Hamada is a bit harsh on 1st sector for attackers.

[sacred junco]

C cap is fun to fight in

[knotty notch]

But lots comes down to players playn

[sacred junco]

A/B/D has an interesting dynamic

The ruins are fun too, but I just don't end up going there since most fights occur in D

[knotty notch]

aww, soz, im usually tinking breakthrough, didnt play conquest for long time before mercury

[solid hinge]

I think they need the original BF4 vehicle respawn system to make these maps good

[lusty jackal]

hamada is so trash

worst map in BFs history

[solid hinge]

no

that would be Berlin from bf1942

worst map

[lusty jackal]

different times

[solid hinge]

Hamada is a good map you just need to play it in a different style

[sacred junco]

None of the maps besides breakthrough Aerodrome gets me too riled up

unlike most of BF1s Operations layout

[solid hinge]

Also people were praising Hamada at the start of the game's release

I think everyone's just tired

[mossy fox]

What's the gun you get at the very beginning of the skiing mission?

[sacred junco]

Krag?

[grizzled stag]

Yep. A Krag

[mossy fox]

It's very nice.

[grizzled stag]

It is my favorite Recon weapon

[mossy fox]

Haven't unlocked it yet on Recon as I've only recently been giving the class a good shot so looking forward to unlocking it

I've been using the Ross

[solid hinge]

if someone is shooting they shouldnt be able to have teammates spawn on them

I am so TIRED of having people spawn mid bayonet

[iron jungle]

mid pokie-poke, you mean?

or stabby-stab

[solid hinge]

;_; this fucking meow clan guy keeps shooting me from the most bizarre directions as well

[knotty notch]

hehe, and i hate bayonet charge as it incapacitates the dude attacked before he gets stabbed , genious designed that mechanic

[solid hinge]

im gonna stabby stab him so hard

[cinder sundial]

So hey is anyone happy they removed frontlines?

[iron jungle]

hahha

[solid hinge]

No

;_;

[weak violet]

"im gonna stabby stab him so hard" -Ayla

[turbid carbon]

The boys at isn't showing up for me to buy

[solid hinge]

God man fighting against a clan is shit

shoot a guy with your tank for 142 damage without him dying

wait for him to exit cover

4 assaults pop out and faust you at once

absolutely godawful

also hamada conquest is so goddamn boring

take the top 3 points and then wait in the spawn menu for someone to try and flank G

spawn on it, kill them, redeploy and wait in spawn menu

[cinder sundial]

The problem is you're playing conquest

Play frontlines

Oh wait

[proven quartz]

Domination best mode but dice removed it

Fuck conquest and any other mode tbh

[cinder sundial]

Squad conquest is basically domination tho

[midnight nimbus]

SQCQ is domination with a tank and more spawn trapping

[solid hinge]

I want to play frontlines

conquest is my absolute least favourite mode

you have to rely far too much on teammates

i only enjoy flying in it

[shrewd scaffold]

I have a question

How does one justify removing content from a product after people having purchased the product and being able to enjoy all the content from said product at the launch of it in a legal sense?

Removing Frontlines and Domination from Battlefield V is exactly that

[midnight nimbus]

#RemoveConquest

if player count is a problem, they should remove Firestorm too

[forest wadi]

^

[shrewd scaffold]

I played Domination and Frontlines exclusively and actually the return of 32-Player-Frontlines and Domination was the main reason i bought the game

Now what do i play now?

Should i just stop playing the game?

[forest wadi]

I am lol

[shrewd scaffold]

I would love to see an official Statement in that regard

[forest wadi]

I’ll play conquest here and there but I can’t stand breakthrough frontlines was like main game mode

Not a big fan of squad conquest either

And there’s no rush

#NotMyBattlefield

[midnight nimbus]

guess I'll play Breakthrough until something good comes out

there were some ok Domination maps

[shrewd scaffold]

Tbh i want my money back

The Game has now less game modes than it launched with

[knotty notch]

@cinder sundial Nope. It was an awsome mode and i cant think of any good reason to remove that and leave squad conquest

[midnight nimbus]

imagine paying for BFV

[shrewd scaffold]

What a scam lol

[midnight nimbus]

paying $0 to farm and grief people 😍😋

[forest wadi]

I pre-ordered the deluxe first ever game I ever preordered and I’m never doing it again

[shrewd scaffold]

lol

[cinder sundial]

I'm so happy I didn't pay

[shrewd scaffold]

For the Red weapon skins lmao

Absolute Scam of a game

[icy sluice]

Pre ordered deluxe

Am satisfied really lol

[forest wadi]

For just red skins lmfaoooooooo

[icy sluice]

You did get much more than red skins

[midnight nimbus]

I wish deluxe gave you a tank that forces everyone it shoots to hear the woman scream at max volume

like it overrides windows volume

[burnt vector]

Sorry if the question has been asked befor, but is the Boys Rifle unavailable for purchase to everyone? Shouldn't it be available now for purchase with Company Coins?

[icy sluice]

You got the denizen and peacekeeper skins, a whole outfit, 3 new emblems... I think something else but I don't recall

[midnight nimbus]

I have deluxe but I have no idea what it gives you

[knotty notch]

@burnt vector Boys was unlockable last week. CAnt purchase that

[icy sluice]

Oh and 6 more skins

Well 6 more outfit skins

[cinder sundial]

Patrick you should be able to buy it as you can buy the other ones. Idk you might just have to wait a bit

[burnt vector]

Ok I will look again tomorrow

[knotty notch]

rly ? thought that unlockables arent avaliable for purchase right away

[burnt vector]

Maybe it takes a week, I dont know

[forest wadi]

Tides of war weapons are available usually a week later

[burnt vector]

I did not care about the recent guns except the Commando Carbine to be honest

Ok so we have to wait a bit

I wanted to try it out to see myself if it is too strong or whatever

[knotty notch]

Tromboncino better imo 😛

[forest wadi]

^

[midnight nimbus]

I haven't cared about a DLC gun since the MAS-44

[forest wadi]

I was really butt hurt when they nerfed it like 3 times

[midnight nimbus]

what nerfs lol

just pull down on the mouse harder

[burnt vector]

I play Mg42 most of the time or Stg 44

[cinder sundial]

The boys needs a buff against tanks for sure

[forest wadi]

I’m console and there was less recoil and there wasn’t much of damage drop off

[midnight nimbus]

actually the LS/26 is a pretty good gun

[solid hinge]

if apcr actually worked we might be able to see it work

The BF1 weapons hot nerfed badly

[cinder sundial]

The LS is a far worse FG42

[solid hinge]

Theres been some hot support users lasering people with the LS

[midnight nimbus]

LS/26 is basically the launch KE7

[solid hinge]

Scary

[midnight nimbus]

you can get silly 100m sprays

[solid hinge]

Hellriegel, Martini etx

Etc

[forest wadi]

FG42>LS

[midnight nimbus]

FG42 is decent but not amazing

LS/26 is just so easy mode

and so good at range

[vital lily]

wait

[cinder sundial]

LS is trash imo

[burnt vector]

I love the Mg42 tbh, I don't care if other people are complaing about me "camping" (I dont consider my playstyle to be camping as I am always playing an objective and I am changing positions to follow my team and just PTFO), I just love it

[vital lily]

how did you lot not pay

for bfv

[midnight nimbus]

I was given a code

[burnt vector]

I would play the MG42 if it would be weak like LMGs in the beginning of BF1

[vital lily]

by who

[cinder sundial]

On Xbox you can game share with people so my friend bought it and I have his account linked to my Xbox

[midnight nimbus]

😉

[cinder sundial]

Free game EZ

Still trash tho

[midnight nimbus]

there's a lot of fun to be had

even with the trash parts

[cinder sundial]

Disagree

[vital lily]

i love that game

i always love games people hate

ther isn't many games i hate really

just ones that don't find my intrest

[forest wadi]

800+ hours trust me any fun to be had has been capped since launch

[vital lily]

i find it super fun

[solid hinge]

I just like spending 40+ on games that are let downs totally enjoy feeling buyers remorse

[sleek solstice]

Just bought BFV yesterday

Pretty good game

but still there is many bugs as ive seen

[midnight nimbus]

BFV infantry just doesn't have the replay value of BF1

[vital lily]

I would be plying BFV 24/7 as my ony game if I didn't fucking stutter all the time

even though my pc is fine

[midnight nimbus]

there aren't guns where you need to strive to progress with

[muted socket]

when your team loses, do you guys try to evaluate your own performance to see how it contributed? i had 3 straight losses and ive been trying to figure out what ive been doing wrong

[patent kiln]

of course

always question and critic own gameplay

[vital lily]

best method is spamming chat blaming it on team

[patent kiln]

ye

[vital lily]

really helps

my personal favourtite is "fuckign nob teem get gam yesterday??? fuck nob"

[forest wadi]

@muted socket it’s not you dawg if your team is trash and squad doesn’t contribute then it’s a lost battle

[muted socket]

in three straight games i got promoted to squad leader bc there wasnt any activity from the previous one

[vital lily]

Anybody played war thunder? That's the controls we need for battlefield

actual mouse control

[forest wadi]

Yup

[vital lily]

I dont understand the maniacs who can aim with the horrible plane controls in battlefield

[muted socket]

one thing i will say

im seeing less squads filled with snipers

[vital lily]

system is 1060, i5 7600k 8gb ddr4

[forest wadi]

Right now recon is popular class cause of the boys AT rifle

[vital lily]

can anybody help with my stutter

system is 1060, i5 7600k 8gb ddr4

happens randomly throughout the match and always at the start

[muted socket]

do u get the three orange rectangles?

[vital lily]

ye

dont see why fps would go low tho

i play on all low mesh quality ultra

[midnight nimbus]

> i5
> 8GB RAM
> BFV

[muted socket]

wish i could help. have the same issues :/

[midnight nimbus]

there's your problem

BFV will take as much CPU power as you can feed it

man I have an i7 and 16GB RAM and BFV is still a huge hog

[vital lily]

i just need a whole system upgrade

[muted socket]

is this something that needs to be patched or do i need to get a new gpu?

[vital lily]

one of those new 1660's or 2070's maybe

[soft storm]

BFV is like your ex wife

[vital lily]

i should be good

[soft storm]

Except it wants your cpu

[solid hinge]

And not the kids

[vital lily]

what to upgrade to then

[solid hinge]

Fuck karen

[muted socket]

why was my last message red

[vital lily]

always happens to me @muted socket

[dense bone]

@vital lily is ram dual channel?

[vital lily]

it means it wasnt sent for whatevr reason

yea its 4x2

[dense bone]

on low you should easily be above 60 fps

unless optimization got that bad with last patch

[vital lily]

I am normally above 60 fps

[midnight nimbus]

man on all low i still get insane stuttering and lag with the last patch

[vital lily]

but at the start of the match i'm dying

[midnight nimbus]

DICE'd

[vital lily]

like i can run arma 3 with a bunch of AI pretty well 🤔 pls optimise?

[dense bone]

i havent played since last patch, but i hear its bad

oh yea, toggle between dx11 and dx12, toggle future frame render too

[vital lily]

why do pc specs have to exist

can we just all run ultra 60fps on £20 laptop pls

[sleek solstice]

I guess one thing that causes the most performance drop are explosions

like tons of explosions

[solid hinge]

Am i allowed to tag mod trainees

[dense bone]

you shouldnt @ anything unless they are in the convo

[solid hinge]

O

[dense bone]

if you got an issue dm @strange osprey

[solid hinge]

Do i just wait until they start talking

[dense bone]

yep

[vital lily]

Should I upgrade my oculus rift to the rift S

[solid hinge]

Speak of the devil

Is it worth upgrading

Oh hi ayla

Which spitfire is good for infantry and planes again

Howdy howdy

The VB

VB rockets are a lot easier to aim than the VA bombs

And g2 is the equivelant of that?

They have some differences

Theres 4 german fighters and its confusing me

g2 has an air radar and a spec that gives it naturally better agility, while the VB exchanges quick repair for Nitro

They both have 2 x 20mm cannons and another set of weapons though

And rockets

The allies get 8 rockets that shoot in pairs of two, while the axis get 2 rockets that shoot one at a time

But the axis rockets are more accurate, have more damage, a larger explosion and can be used against aircraft

The Stuka are the equivalent of the Mosquitos

They're heavy fighters rather than normal fighters

Or like.. attack aircraft

[midnight nimbus]

Ju-88C

[solid hinge]

I prefer cannons instead of bombs

[idle breach]

va can shoot down most of the plane, g2 is kinda hard but while having great air to air capability va can do some ground attack.
With vb you can go rockets with mgs, easier to take out some stat aa or something. Or you can go with full air to air setup with maneuvre upgrade.

[grizzled stag]

great, even DICE doesn't want me to play Firestorm... Just got into yet another "squad firestorm" as a 1 man squad because people leave before it starts

a-ma-zing

[solid hinge]

Out of both stukas and both bf109s whats the best plane for killing infantry? (With cannons)

[soft storm]

Trick question

Ju 88 C

[midnight nimbus]

^

[idle breach]

G2 can have rockets with maneuver upgrade, g-6 you can have spot camera so can farm points but if dedicated spitfire comes it kinda hard

[grizzled stag]

I just like the 8xMG Spit

it is so easy

[soft storm]

WE NEED THE GUN THAT GOES BZZZZZZRRZRRRRT

[midnight nimbus]

the answer to all plane questions is Ju-88

[solid hinge]

Honestly I've spent a bunch of time with the fighters and they just lose so much utility without the rockets

Not worth using them rocketless

[idle breach]

Except bombs va with 8x .303 is good
Mosquito mkI is good but not worth it
B-2 is good if you really want to not use bombs

[midnight nimbus]

you can't ground pound well without rockets

[soft storm]

But what about the utter disrespect destroying another plane with your unaided bombs?

[midnight nimbus]

8x 303 is a bit of a meme

[solid hinge]

The bombs on the va arent bad but they arent as easy to aim as rockets

[midnight nimbus]

spread is really high

[solid hinge]

And then you're stuck with the VA

forced smokescreen

[soft storm]

I like the smokescreen

Some morons crash when they fly into it

[sacred hull]

this game sucks so much ass

[soft storm]

Yes but it’s our ass

[sacred hull]

dice i want my £70 back

no it isnt

[soft storm]

Now eat your food

[solid hinge]

I miss the quick repair too much to have smoke

[idle breach]

Smoke replaces flare

As i remember

[solid hinge]

wtf

That's even worse

[idle breach]

3 for repair 4 for smoke

For pc

Oh

[solid hinge]

Flares go out too quickly

[idle breach]

If mg42 counts as cannon since its a gun

[solid hinge]

Smoke screen is sick

Thompson or Soumi

[idle breach]

Ju88a with BIGGUNPOD is pretty good

[solid hinge]

Whats smoke for again? Vb or va

VA

VA has nothing to boost it's agility though

[idle breach]

VA... if you do kinda viable tree

[solid hinge]

VB gets nitro

[sharp wadi]

is the new Mercury map any good???

[idle breach]

Yeah it is good

Good map it is.

Recommend I do

[sharp wadi]

Im gonna try it right now lmao

[hazy wasp]

the nitro on the VB is pretty lit

[solid hinge]

You might prefer the 8 .303 on the VA but I much prefer having two different weapons to swap between

[sharp wadi]

Searching for wife, I am

[solid hinge]

Thompson or soumi

[sharp wadi]

thompson, it is

[solid hinge]

Thompson is an easier to use suomi that shoots slower

Ok

[sharp wadi]

must go back, I MUST.

[hazy wasp]

both are good choices honestly

tommy or suomi

[idle breach]

Thompson, I never heard of

New drug, it must be

[solid hinge]

Can you buy The Boys at gun now?

AT*

For conpany coins

[sharp wadi]

wtf a french character?

[solid hinge]

Company

[hazy wasp]

Acshkualllyssss its the M1928A1

[solid hinge]

Va smoke screen is so cool

[silver niche]

@solid hinge they forgot about tank tracks

[sharp wadi]

holy guacamole

[idle breach]

French girl, it is.

[sharp wadi]

does any1 have boins?

I sure dont

[idle breach]

Boins. I have

[solid hinge]

Me too

220

[sharp wadi]

I think they are pretty useless, no?

[solid hinge]

For skins

[idle breach]

Bought many skins, I did.

[solid hinge]

Elite etc

[sharp wadi]

alright ima go now

peaaaaaaaaaaacccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[solid hinge]

Hopefully Not For weapons Upgrades or weopons

Weapons

[sacred hull]

yo

[solid hinge]

Do stukas have cannons

[sacred hull]

hey guys

[idle breach]

Dagobah, maybe.

[sharp wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-cool-swag-dance-gif-12707951

[idle breach]

Hey

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge yes

[sacred hull]

mw is on battle.net

go purchase

[idle breach]

B2 has two 37mm cannon

[sleek solstice]

Are there weapon upgrades for multiplayer like Suppresors
Extended Magazines
or no?

[idle breach]

Or 40mm? Kinda like rhat

[solid hinge]

@sleek solstice yes

[idle breach]

There is

But not suppre

Silenxer

[solid hinge]

Do i go stuka of bf109

[sleek solstice]

Im guessing its for the higher rank weapons?

[idle breach]

Well

Do both

[solid hinge]

Mostly

[icy sluice]

There's specializations

[solid hinge]

@sleek solstice

[idle breach]

Bf109 i recommend

Since stuka B-2 grinding is

[solid hinge]

@icy sluice deutsch?

Ya but jericho sirens

[idle breach]

Pretty fucking horrible

[sleek solstice]

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge nein

[idle breach]

FUCKING horrible

[solid hinge]

oOf

[idle breach]

Ask any pilot whats it like to grind stuka b2 or blenheim mk1

For me, I needed a few tranquilizer pills.

[solid hinge]

B1 IS better

Or?

[idle breach]

It numbs stress.

B1 is shit because they nerfed the 1ton bomb

Since mosquito being op

[solid hinge]

The explosive cannons

[idle breach]

Collateral damage

[solid hinge]

Are OP

[idle breach]

Well

It good but not op

[solid hinge]

But i don't got them yet

Just rank1

[icy sluice]

Fully upgraded Blenheim is superb

[solid hinge]

@silver niche who did?

Out of stukas and bf109s whats the best

[icy sluice]

Me

[idle breach]

Uh

Ju88a?

[solid hinge]

They fit different roles

[idle breach]

Or britplane?

[solid hinge]

I want a Tank horse

Like bf1

Lol

[silver niche]

@solid hinge EA, if you drive a tank theres no trails neither do other vehicles have them

[solid hinge]

Bf109 is a fighter, stuka are bombers/tank hunters

if they left tread marks on the ground my game would run even worse than it already does

Horse with AA cannons explosive HE cannons and 50cal Machine gun

[idle breach]

For me
superior birb - Ju88a / mosquito FB
Good birb - both blenheim, va, vb, g2, g6, b-2
Bad birb - ju88c, b1, mosquito

Terrible birb - lvl0 anything

[solid hinge]

Ju88c is painful to level

[idle breach]

Not worth it imo

[solid hinge]

Or was it the new mosquito

[idle breach]

Kinda stupid loadout

[solid hinge]

The stukas are the hardest to level imo

They're shit until level 4

[idle breach]

I remember ayla going so angery leveling up blenheim

MkI

You sweared at me lol

[solid hinge]

it just.. it only has 8 50lb bombs

I was so mad

[idle breach]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Can barely hurt anyone unless you get direct hits and I couldn't see anyone on the ground

[idle breach]

Got no hard feelings since I know what thats like lol

[solid hinge]

I was resorting to ramming people to get kills

;_;

[idle breach]

Fucking terrible experience

And back then everyone spawning flanpanzer

[solid hinge]

;___;

some kinda memory for sure

[idle breach]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

The explosive 50 cal is MUCH better on it

[idle breach]

True

[silver niche]

Just wait till they add the body customization for tanks, they will be camouflage tanks, just soon.

[idle breach]

No

Gas mask on tank

[silver niche]

Yes

[solid hinge]

Ive had enough of bombers i want cannons

[idle breach]

Hair on tank

Tank with big officer hat with facemask

[icy sluice]

Blenheim mk 1 is good with the spotting camera

[solid hinge]

u guys saw the cod mw trailer

[hazy wasp]

how come i just end up on the worst teams on mercury lol

[idle breach]

cod mw?

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge Don't care for it

[idle breach]

Like... uh isnt that like 2006

[solid hinge]

The Ju-88 C and the second Mosquito get actual tank cannons on them

[icy sluice]

Also that's for #general. Talk about it there