i did manage to dodge the second attempt with help
#battlefield-legacy-titles
mystic wolf
@soft storm yeah? why?
soft storm
Simply because I believe that admins kicking people for shit they don’t like is annoying?
soft storm
Quite the opposite
solid hinge
@solid hinge it depends what you wanna do with them!
mystic wolf
There are things called rules. They are established and often codified and enforced for everyone's betterment.. If you don't like that concept well.. rip
solid hinge
I want to be fast, good at killing planes and infsntry. Preferably cannons instead of bombs
soft storm
My dude is the watchdog looking to make sure nobody is stalling their plane
solid hinge
I use the b2 stuka for anti vehicle and bomber, while I use the bf 109 g-2 as an anti air fighter with the ability to target specific ground areas with rockets
calm hawk
Hey I wasn’t able to complete the challenge for the boys at rifle but I really want to give it a go when is it becoming available just to buy?
mystic wolf
Yeah like obviously I'm saying if I were admin on a server that'd be a rule
soft storm
No c4 no RPG on infantry no shotgun break rules = instaban
solid hinge
b2 stuka can take out big targets but it's not so good at smaller targets like infantry or fighters
sacred junco
most ideal thing is for the game itself to prevent cheap plays
soft storm
Admin reserves right to kick players if they take his vehicle
solid hinge
109 g-2 can take out any plane and rockets are good vs infantey
sacred junco
its hard to stall in place at a spawn, but surprised it was still possible
solid hinge
So probably the bf 109 g-2
mystic wolf
@soft storm you really are doubling down on this weird strawman
solid hinge
What about g6?
soft storm
I’m bored at work
calm hawk
Does anyone know?
solid hinge
You could give the g6 a go with mingenschoss
opaque cipher
Bruh you just need to play some more lockers no ban
soft storm
No backcapping no shotgun no rpg no drones no snipers
solid hinge
It loses out on firepower and agility in exchange for minor splash damage compared to the g2 though
mystic wolf
maybe go find some work to do
solid hinge
Do they have jericho sirens
opaque cipher
And likewise no mortar from uncap
solid hinge
heh heh heh
Jericho sirens are the best
They're certainly very satisfyingn
Is there an allies equivelant to the g2
Spitfire VB
calm hawk
Hey can someone just take two seconds to answer my question? When will I be able to buy the boys at rifle?
soft storm
Soon
calm hawk
Thanks
soft storm
When dice feels like it
calm hawk
Have a good day everyone
soft storm
So don’t hold your breathe
solid hinge
What are good medium tanks
mystic wolf
lol sigh
solid hinge
All the valentines are good for Brits
And the archer
Valentine VIII needs the 6 pounder upgrade though
The default cannon sucks
soft storm
If you aren’t going 6 pounder on the valentine you’re doing it wrong
solid hinge
The panzer 4 is good for germans
Is the sturmgeschutz good
Unfortunately not really
O
It loses a lot compared to the panzer 4 and only gets a nice gunner position in exchange
Is there one which sprays ap mines everywhere
None of them can drop AP mines but they can have a spec that detonates AP mines attached to them
random rock
lmao I'm sat at 333 ping on an EU server
solid hinge
Yeah thats what i meant
So if im gettinf fucked up by infantry i can detonate ap mines
Yeah! I think the tiger and the 38t can do that
random rock
they can.
solid hinge
I think the normal panzer 4 can as well
grizzled stag
great
the matchmaker broke
keeps throwing me to US or Japanese servers
from EU
grizzled stag
greaaaat
solid hinge
From what i heaed panzer 38t is good infsntry grinder
soft storm
Get the AP mines on the light tank and the tiger
soft storm
You can literally use the light tank as a fucking frag grenade
Drive right into a crowded room and press 5
Quad feed or better
soft storm
On the tiger it’s almost required because of infantry being assholes and getting too close
solid hinge
Should i get tank and plane cosmetics
Panzer 4 can do either
You can spec it to have big splash vs infantry and flares, or to have big anti tank damage
I use it as my anti infantry tank personally with the tiger as my anti tank tank
Hey Xbox players! Anyone interested in a tournament?
If you see one you like then you may as well! Though you might want to save up for tank body cosmetics when they get released
You'll probably have more luck with that in #lfg-xbox
Couldn’t find it for some reason lol, thx @solid hinge
Ohhh but they all look so coool
I want all of them
Np!
So a good allied tank would be the valentine mk viii?
hehehe
Medium tank
The valentine mk VIII can pretty much do anything
I'd recommend picking RMR specs for it
Gives it a strong fast firing cannon with a lot of ammo
Then you can either pick AP rounds for the cannon that let you swap to them mid game for extra tank damage, or the line charge which shoots these big tubes of exploding string in front of you
They're really fun to use
scenic beacon
They look awesome on the churchill gun carrier
solid hinge
Whats an easy way to get cc? I had 50k but spent it now i really want vehicle cosmetics
Makes me laugh every time I see them on the gun carrier
Box with two little boxes
scenic beacon
memebox
solid hinge
Omg imagine if we get to customise massive ships when thr pacific comes
I really REALLY hope they add ships
grizzled stag
and I am super disappointed I didn't see hiragana or katakana on the Japanese server
they just used regular letters 😦
stoic breach
?
solid hinge
A cool bug happened to me, it was the main menu screen but wirhout thr blue filter
Probably gotta swap your language to Japanese for that
daring moth
Where the Boys At (rifle)?
solid hinge
Is churchill mk vii the tiger of allies
Kind of
The allies get two heavy tanks
The churchill has better armour than the tiger (I think) but its default cannon is much less powerful
grizzled stag
I prefer the Tiger to the Churchill,
hot phoenix
If anyone wants their scrims casted hmu. I’m looking to grow my personal channel. I have rockin graphics, I’m very experienced and run things very professionally. I do PS4 and Xbox
grizzled stag
though the Church is fun to bombard points with
scenic beacon
I almost never see the memebox in use anymore
solid hinge
It can get a howitzer which is VERY strong but has very slow travelling shots
grizzled stag
Howitzer with the finally AT shots is amazing
solid hinge
The gun carrier is more similar to the tiger, but it's big and slow and very easy to be swarmed by infantry
grizzled stag
3 hit kills medium tanks
solid hinge
I think the howitzer with hesh can 3 hit kill a tiger too
Its damn strong
Just.. difficult to use beyond like 50 metres
scenic beacon
Hesh is fun to use, just harder to hit at range
craggy estuary
btw the howitzer tank is called the Churchill AVRE
solid hinge
For infantry do i go chirchill or valentine
craggy estuary
Basically its a really big piat
grizzled stag
nevermind, the HESH Howitzer is 2HK vs Medium Tanks
scenic beacon
@solid hinge valentine if you want to kill infantry
solid hinge
For taking out infantry? Hmm.. the valentine is probably easier to use
grizzled stag
especially after the nerf to Case Shots on the Valentine AA 😄
grizzled stag
any tank apart from the Stug is fine against infantry, just used the Coaxial MG and you will have done 400 damage in no time
or use an armored transport
solid hinge
The MG loses damage pretty fast at range but it's nice to watch those hitmarkers ping
Specs for valentine?
RMR
probably middle for the last one
Panzer 4?
coral fiber
Why is the AA range so long?
I can't even fly over the town in mercury without going up in flames
solid hinge
Panzer 4 depends on whether you want to attack infantry or tanks with it
coral fiber
With a valentine AA and Stationary AA
solid hinge
Full right side if you're going for infantry, full left side if you're going for tanks
sweet pawn
BOYS AT tho
solid hinge
Yeah I'd probably use the tiger for anti tank instead of the panzer 4 for now
soft storm
Don’t be stupid and try to attack tanks with the 38t for that
solid hinge
the 38t is.. I really like it but it's just so weak at the moment
coral fiber
I just wanna ram people with the 38t
solid hinge
I DO want to kill infantry but the acpr rounds look so appealing
grizzled stag
the 38T is more adorable than dangerous
solid hinge
On the valentine? They are very good for anti tank
grizzled stag
the APCR sucks hard on the Valentine
solid hinge
The tube launchers are good against tanks too
midnight nimbus
no its good
coral fiber
The 38t reminds me of the light tank from 1
solid hinge
Tube launchers are good vs anything
midnight nimbus
APCR gibs Tigers
grizzled stag
for me they deal a third of the regular damage
solid hinge
heyo kht we're talking about tanks
grizzled stag
I do 10 damage TOPS with the APCR on the Valentine, and 30 with regular shells
solid hinge
The AP rounds on anything other than archer should do noticeably more damage vs tanks
King tiger
grizzled stag
maybe they just fixed it recently
soft storm
The AP rounds on the light tanks are either bugged or useless
grizzled stag
wait
soft storm
Just don’t
grizzled stag
nevermind
midnight nimbus
APCR was never broken on the Valentine
solid hinge
Tanks have been buggy literally since the game came out so I wouldn't be surprised if they just didnt deal damage correctly for you
grizzled stag
I was thinking of the Valentine AT
solid hinge
Oh yeah they suck real bad on the archer
grizzled stag
where the "upgraded" ammo is useless, like on the Trom for medics and Boys AT for Recon
solid hinge
Idk what they were doing there
grizzled stag
I wonder how they can do so little damage, it is almost amazing
solid hinge
Theres no reason for them to do less damage!!
Deep sky looks so good for the spotfore vb
Its 20k and i want it
the apcr on the boys doesnt hurt tanks but it can still break their components
and it seems to blow up any fortification you shoot
Were there any vehicle skins from overturd that you cant purchase anymore?
Yeah theres a few I think
solid hinge
Battle of Britain was one I thiink?
Or the czech
I have them both
Deep sky is pretty I like it
They werent from overture
Atleast i dont think
Whoops
My bad then
I cant remember what the unlocks were
I want better skins for panzer 4 😩
I like the look of skorpion
I'm a cheap skate though there's no way I'm buying that till I've got a couple hundred thousand cc
Wacht am rhein is nice
I like the spots on it
Good pattern
Sturmgeschutz has soooo many skins
Its unfair
Its a bad tank
B2 has a beautiful snow skin but thats the only good one
grizzled stag
I like how only one person have reported that the APDS on the Archer is broken, and that was back in February
The StuG is terribad compared to the Tiger 😦
I just wanted a StuG42 option on it, it would have been so much fun
grizzled stag
@solid hinge I have +150k CC and that is probably nothing compared to some people 😛
but that is mostly because there are nothing to buy
solid hinge
I have 10k because i spent it all
Werent assignments glitched
Didnt they get tons of cc
grizzled stag
only thing I brought was the sweater for the allies
I have a gazillion Assignment that each give 400 CC, but the are so annoying to do
solid hinge
Once you do one they reappesr instantly
I just keep doimg the same ones over snd over
grizzled stag
almost instantly, sometimes it takes a day or so
the Medic, Medic, Support trio is super easy 1k CC
and the Recon, Recon, Sniper is easy too
solid hinge
I cant be bothered to keep equipping assignments
Maybe I should do that and grind some cc out
tfw stug sucks
How should i dress my soldier for mercury
The best fashion is the most ugly combination you can find
This plane audio shit is a pain in the ass man
scenic beacon
predator body, captured wood, gold muzzle, aperture sight @solid hinge
gotta get that aperture sight
solid hinge
anyone from asia?
grizzled stag
am I the only one who goes for Fashion of Style over camo?
I ain't got time to swap it every battle anyway
solid hinge
Oh baby..
It’s either gold or stock for me
Pointless wasting CC on camos
Just make a tasty looking skin
Veiled threat head
Green grsvedigger legs
Hawk and dove body
echo glen
Flex with exclusive stuff
Baron Von Zorn Headpiece
Canis -something- Chestpiece
Baron Von Zorn Leggings
solid hinge
My recon has
Veiled threat head, demolisher torso and Divining rod legs
hoary condor
Boys isn't powerful, change my mind
civic sonnet
@grizzled stag 💯camo ain’t gonna save me, I’d rather look fly when I die
Mercury is getting me hyped for pacific maps. The foliage and water look great
hoary condor
not at the moment
solid hinge
anyone even bothered about the new knife?
hoary condor
challenges seem easy enough, something to go for
solid hinge
boys is powerful with apcr
you can blow up anything you shoot that isnt a vehicle
Went on a scrumptious little kill streak
those water towers? destroyed in one shot
im almost certain that's a bug but it's a FUN one
hoary condor
Yeah... not keen on it.. too OP for a GPM
rip, can't even do that properly.. GPG (General purpose gun)
wicked ravine
I’ve got no friends that play bfv if any of y’all are willing enough could you add me as a friend on the Xbox so we could play toghether?
wicked ravine
Add me on the Xbox
wicked ravine
Gotchu @scenic beacon thought I could go to the core of bfv on discoed and people could add me here
solid hinge
Man I hate to say this but I just dont feel like I like bf5 anymore
First they changed the soldier lighting and changed the whole game drastically
And then they go and take away frontlines like
Feelsbadman
hoary condor
woven light
@solid hinge Go back to bf4 like I did last week. It was a rush (pun intended)
solid hinge
Ive been debating on just uninstalling bf5 and downloading bf1
Bf5 is just such a clusterfuck its really starting to not be worth it
crisp stone
playing again today jeeze..
cannot spot these campers on mercury with the mmgs
freaking default camos just blend in so well
and alot of them have found exploits that lets them prone into the ground by the looks of it
coral fiber
Wait i thought the germans ruled the skies why are there 3 planes on each side?
frank loom
hope next battlefield brings back premium
solid hinge
I kinda hope not
also people complain about the live service but we really don't know how it's going to end up
frank loom
i hate tides of war
native mural
:0
frank loom
this shit is too grindy honestly, i barely play this game. i rather play upfront for year or two or whatever free cosmetics and not have to deal with grinding.
solid hinge
This live service sucks man
Yeah but in live service you had to actually buy DLC packs which costed half the game and you'd have servers running them and then having half the playerbase leave a match
It's stupid
They put such a big emphasis on outfits too and then they lock all of them behind real money
frank loom
i dont understand why they made battlefield into cosmetic grinding instead of meaningful in-game progression of weapons and equipment like in BF games before 1
solid hinge
Like whats there to grind for
You don't grind anythin
If we only get two maps a year
Then whats the reason to play like
I mean, you don't have to
Just to pay for more and more skins?
For fun?
frank loom
you do if you want to get all the rewards but dont have to time to play every day
frank loom
people would still buy premium, and they would make more content, simple
solid hinge
Yes but you'd still have the same problems as before
frank loom
harsh reality
solid hinge
Everytime I play BF4 you have a large number of idiots who've never played the DLC
and so you have them kicked out of the mixed servers
Its hard to play this game for “fun” when the maps suck and its riddled with bugs and other issues
and you play the DLC with 24 or so people
Also the maps are fine?
And how do I play for fun when they remove gamemodes I like
I dunno dude
make something up
frank loom
BF5 is not fun, but ive invested time into so it would be waste not to do the TOW. if I had premium, i would get all the TOW cosmetics free and instead have in-game content to progress towards since there would be more of it (hopefully)
solid hinge
Am I just supposed to have fun in gamemodes I hate?
DICE can't tell you to go have fun
so liga's problem is that he doesn't have frontlines
which is a shame
grizzled stag
@frank loom Even if the next BF game is premium they will force cosmetics and boins into it, they are not going back on earning cold digital cash
solid hinge
and xealyth's problem is that... You can't get anything?
frank loom
they are literally anti-consumer
grizzled stag
I play to get a golden Boys
frank loom
at this point? pretty much yes. waiting for actual content to release
solid hinge
No my problem is that theres nothing to work toward, the maps suck, already existing gamemodes are being taken away and there isnt enough weapon diversity
grizzled stag
and damn to my teammates love me 😄
frank loom
~200 hours
solid hinge
Okay
frank loom
this shit gets stale quick
solid hinge
that's a good enough point to stop and wait until the pacific theater then
No it's because you've played 6 months
BF1 also had that same issue
Uhh no?
solid hinge
BF1's first DLC was 6 months after release IIRC?
Wut
5 months
The game launched in october
the first DLC was released march of the following year
so, that's around 5 - 6 months
I imagine the discord was full of people wanting more maps just like now
Bf1 had good base maps too though
And alot more weapons etc
Did it really though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xMtsB4WaqI am i missing or is hit reg not working?
Yeah it did
That's entirely opinion based
Miles above what bf5 has
I like most of BFV's maps
BFV's maps, by alot of standards, perform well gameplay wise
in BF1 alot of the maps have too many sightlines
What lmao
I mean I remember playing monte grappa and getting killed by a sniper half of the time
Well monte grappa was one of the shittier bf1 maps I can agree with you there tbh
Sinai is the best one though
Sinai is a classic
To me almost every map in bf5 plays like monte grappa tho
For comparison
Give me a map
Cept all maps are like 3 times smaller
Except they're not?
frank loom
BF5 was EA's experiment to see how far they can get away with putting minimal effort, maximum profit, disguised as AAA game
frank loom
BF1 to a lesser degree
solid hinge
Fjell
Arras
Rotterdam
look at this
Narvik as well
look at this
Caspian border wasnt really a huge map tho
I mean I see it being paraded as a classic large map but yeah it wasn't that large
And frankly I dont think that pic is accurate
Nope it is
Doubt
frank loom
besides, how is that relevant to bf1 vs bf5
solid hinge
And in any case i.e in hamada you only play on half of the map
Other half is empty space that never gets used
Caspian border has obj almost to the edges of the map border
I mean you can say the same thing with sinai
cedar cove
Hows the salt this fine morning??
craggy estuary
i have no salt
frank loom
holy SHIT and another thing - TOW having firestorm missions is honestly the worst sin dice has committed
solid hinge
Anyways
i prefer fs over the base game now
better footsteps
better performance
solid hinge
the footsteps in fs are actually kinda od
for me it does
Okay which maps from BF1 are bigger than BFV
well
I have a literal chart released by DICE
with the exception of fjell
frank loom
plus, FS loot system is atrocious
solid hinge
Fjell is a shit metro close quarters remake
frank loom
does not work in BR game
solid hinge
the performance is just as bad, but it doesnt get to that point because of the slower pace
mossy fox
Has anyone at Dice considered that removing Frontlines means you cannot unlock the Platinum trophy for the game anymore on PS4?
random rock
it's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it
midnight nimbus
Sinai is one of the biggest maps in the BF series
random rock
also with pubg's most recent console update, pubg > FS
solid hinge
Sinai is pretty close though
frank loom
Dice LA is not right in the head, they don't consider a lot of things
solid hinge
But in sinai you had alot of wasted space
It's a good map but you have this entire death spell of a desert
midnight nimbus
shit like Galicia is big too
random rock
it's supposed to be empty, it's a desert.
midnight nimbus
who cares about map size
solid hinge
sinai has better terrain than hamada
random rock
^
midnight nimbus
layout > size
solid hinge
That's what I'm getting to
bf1's vehicles werent as toxic either
I care about map size when there are like two large maps
midnight nimbus
all the BF3 CQ DLC maps are fantastic
frank loom
BF3 was a masterpiece
solid hinge
the layout of sinai is better than hamada
midnight nimbus
layout of Sinai was good
solid hinge
infinitely better
random rock
the layout of narvik, hamada, aerodrome were better? 😹
midnight nimbus
especially if you axed the empty space
frank loom
i could play one game of BF3 and it would be better than my 200 hours of BF5
solid hinge
the action was also more spread out
I mean I hate aerodrome
there was always action, even at G
G flag was the shit
sweet fulcrum
how is the switchblade
pallid gate
what you guys talkin bout
solid hinge
Aerodrome is pure garbo as well
how bad bfv maps are
Back to your original question
Theres just so much empty space
For no reason
Which maps from BF1 are larger than BFV's maps
pallid gate
yea, i havent played the new one
frank loom
discussion of the general shitineses of BF5
solid hinge
Which ones?
you need to give me actual ones
midnight nimbus
Aerodrome is great in breakthrough
solid hinge
I have a literal DICE released chart
I reckon now that its not necessarily that the maps in previous games were bigger but their objectives were spread out evenly and better
Okay so you admit that the map size doesn't matter
whatever
BF5 has all the obj in straight lines or clumbed in a weird manner
Example?
midnight nimbus
iirc Sinai is bigger than any BFV MP map outside of Panzerstorm
solid hinge
Its just shit to play on most maps honestly
random rock
Mercury
solid hinge
arras doesn't so this whatsoever
Like hamada conquest for example
I mean that's not the point of conquest though?
Why the fuck are the 3 obj alone in the corner of the map like
And Battlefield 1 had the same problem
yesterday i played a game of rogue transmission
pallid gate
erm, sinai dessert, ballroom, zebbruger
random rock
bf1 had a justification
solid hinge
god that was good
And then this whole big space here on the other corner is just empty
Like wtf
pallid gate
those are the ones i can think of
midnight nimbus
Grand Bazaar 😩😩😩
frank loom
yeah bro, that was lit
pallid gate
yup
pallid gate
see, some of the greatest maps are pretty small, think of operation metro, and locker
its not about size
random rock
set vehicle spawns > giving the player the choice to spawn literally anything
midnight nimbus
Metro 😍😍😍
frank loom
what???
midnight nimbus
Metro Rush is a masterpiece
solid hinge
Jesus christ
frank loom
that's fucking blasphemy @solid hinge
midnight nimbus
Metro Frontlines would be the best map/mode combo in the series
frank loom
i dont care what some adhd spergs think
pallid gate
some people hate it most people love it
midnight nimbus
Metro is epic on 32p
pallid gate
yusss
solid hinge
Yeah sure it's fine
midnight nimbus
or even 48p max
solid hinge
Hope theyll bring metro back
pallid gate
EPIC
pallid gate
i hope so
midnight nimbus
Metro Frontlines would save the game
random rock
Old ppl these days lol
midnight nimbus
BF3 maps are just 👌👌👌
solid hinge
I played games like Planetside 2 when I was younger
midnight nimbus
there aren't any i'd consider to be outright bad
frank loom
Wow dude
pallid gate
anyone remember caspian??
solid hinge
just got into Battlefield last year TBH
midnight nimbus
BF3 maps are just 👌👌👌
solid hinge
1st year college student
frank loom
WOw
pallid gate
wow indeed
midnight nimbus
planetzerg 2
solid hinge
I really liked verdun from bf1
pallid gate
yuss
viral sonnet
<The British Empire> has opened its recruiting boards. Bf1 based in the great war is still much alive with the community and we want you! A battlefield 1 dedicated server currently working under mainly British gameplay and era. Custom server as of tommorow with some of Englands most notable battles. Looking for friendly players casual or hard core to have some fun and meet a small tight community of players. Must have brains and a good sense of fun and humor. Just message for more info. Over the top.
random rock
whyyyy
solid hinge
Wrong chat chief
pallid gate
verdun, i always used to call it the dumb
scenic beacon
!lfg
random rock
@viral sonnet use lfg
solid hinge
I just loved that map
scenic beacon
and the bot broke
pallid gate
lol
solid hinge
Tho the bunker placement at the top was an odd choice
random rock
poor bot has to work overtime for us
solid hinge
Which BFH
pallid gate
yea, i agree
midnight nimbus
Hardline
solid hinge
lol
pallid gate
battlefield hardline
solid hinge
Fuck that
pallid gate
haha xD
frank loom
hardline was a funny game
pallid gate
yea, not as funny as bad company
solid hinge
Hardline had that one death grips song
midnight nimbus
outside of tank and plane whores, it's impossible to make a legit criticism of BFH that doesn't apply to other BF games
random rock
^
solid hinge
My only guess would be that it's not military themed
that's the only criticisim
I got to level 43 in the bfh beta by just sitting in a car
midnight nimbus
oh and garbage weapon balance, but that doesn't really matter when every class has standout guns
pallid gate
yea, visceral 10/10
random rock
but it wasn't trying to be military
frank loom
novel concept though
pallid gate
haha
solid hinge
I'm sure BF1942 had a cops mod too
pallid gate
forever
solid hinge
I should have played 4 when it came out
got into 4 when everyone was too into the game
pallid gate
yea
frank loom
im reinstalling bf3
scenic beacon
4 when it came out was literally unplayable though
pallid gate
eh, i guess
solid hinge
well
midnight nimbus
I only enjoy BF4 for the zouzou sweatfest and explosive spam
solid hinge
3d spotting, 40 to 1 attack helis
like come on
v 6 months later is more unplayable than it was at release
pallid gate
shanghai was the best vanila map in my opinion
solid hinge
sooooooo
midnight nimbus
3D spotting is based af
pallid gate
BE ADVISED
midnight nimbus
uhhhh how else do you communicate with blueberries
solid hinge
We spent half a game complaining about 3d spotting
now we want it back
i dont get the 3d spotting hate
Fuck that
midnight nimbus
3D spotting
pallid gate
anyone remember how annoying that announcer guy was
solid hinge
3d spotting can fuck off
midnight nimbus
uhhhh how else do you communicate with blueberries
3D spotting
uhhhh how else do you communicate with blueberries
solid hinge
3d spotting can fuck off
frank loom
3d spotting is better than no spotting
midnight nimbus
the only issue with 3D spotting is that there's no counter to it
which is an issue that persists into BFV
that's why the 5v5 sounds kinda woke
there's counterspotting
you should just know when you're spotted and have ways to unspot yourself
pallid gate
yusssssssss
midnight nimbus
like metal gear
solid hinge
Instead of blindly saying that the community can't handle no 3d spotting
scenic beacon
I'm real hyped for the 5v5
frank loom
unironically just get good?
solid hinge
See the thing is
midnight nimbus
no just crouch or prone to unspot yourself faster
pallid gate
yea thats simpler
midnight nimbus
break LoS
solid hinge
you're not supposed to know you're spotted
midnight nimbus
why not
solid hinge
I think the game is just better without 3d spotting
pallid gate
i agree
midnight nimbus
who cares about realism
pallid gate
yea
solid hinge
I mean yeah but that can be a false feeling
scenic beacon
i mean it's pretty evident when 3 mmgs spray you down out of nowhere
frank loom
battlefield isnt a milsim
midnight nimbus
^
solid hinge
3d spotting was the goat
pallid gate
haha yeah
midnight nimbus
3D spotting is necessary in a game where you have to communicate with blueberries
solid hinge
Why do people keep saying bf5 isnt a milsim when someone makes a suggestion
midnight nimbus
sure you can get your squad on VOIP
solid hinge
it was the most efficient way of conveying to your team mates that a damn enemy is there
Thats such a stupid argument like
Just stop
midnight nimbus
but 3D spotting only enhances VOIP communication
solid hinge
Just killed 5 planes in mercury this is so good
But sometimes it's pretty fun when you don't know or do know when someone's there
pallid gate
haha nice
solid hinge
that's the fun in suspence
midnight nimbus
yes being helpless is so fun 🙄
solid hinge
when you make it so that someone notifies you when you're spotted it's just not fun
I mean I want to be challenged
frank loom
3d spotting was fine, i think anybody complaining about it honestly, unironically, just needs to get good
pallid gate
nah
midnight nimbus
just have the notification on a delay
pallid gate
challenge is for hardcore
midnight nimbus
hardcore is ez mode
sacred junco
What is this World of Tanks?
scenic beacon
I mean, sniper bullets are notification enough
solid hinge
Thats why I hate this current implementation of the soldier lighting, it makes it way too easy to spot enemies
pallid gate
like rainbow six, YOUVE BEEN SPOTTED
solid hinge
Also suppression
pallid gate
yee
scenic beacon
amen
sacred junco
i like no 3d spotting still
solid hinge
yeah it's good
pallid gate
i love the whole marker system
solid hinge
Holy shit the meta in BF4 was spamming Q
frank loom
no, because nobody except recon flare spammers spot anymore
scenic beacon
i mean suppression has almost no use outside of mmg spotting
frank loom
and the flare is hilariously OP
sacred junco
i can kind of make moves without being singled out by everyone in one q so often
pallid gate
yeee
midnight nimbus
if you get spotted, your flank sucks
sacred junco
thats very map dependent then
solid hinge
See that's the cop out argument which kinda makes it shit
midnight nimbus
try flanking better
pallid gate
anyway, im gonna go play some nostalgic bf3 tty guys later
frank loom
same later
solid hinge
'battlefield is not a milsim' when someone suggests about something
and 'just git gud' when a feature is too unfair
scenic beacon
It would also be cool if you were unspotted if you kill the guy who spotted you within a short time
frank loom
i mean, what else can i say
frank loom
most people in BF games suck anyways
solid hinge
you're just good at a noob friendly mechanic so you say it's skillful
frank loom
no effort i can make top 3 in leaderboards just by running around like an adhd sperg cod kid
solid hinge
That's like me saying I'm good at riding training wheels, therefore it's a legitimate tactic
midnight nimbus
3D spotting isn't inherently skillful or unskillful
lots of games have 3D spotting
many of which are higher skill games than BF
solid hinge
not alot of combined arms shooters no
midnight nimbus
it depends on the implementation
sacred junco
not to the same extent as BF
vapid crater
solid hinge
Planetside 2 has 3d spotting but it's delayed and doesn't work all the time
sacred junco
to the point where people supplement actual vision with cones
not to the same extent as BF
solid hinge
battlefield 2 had no 3d spotting
frank loom
just give me esp dlc
scenic beacon
spec ops class for life!
solid hinge
Try telling that to the vets who still frequent servers
I bet you'll go far
There are lots of milsim servers on bf4 as well with vets playing
Hardcore mode too
So no spotting
yeah it's not normal to have this at all
frank loom
ah yeah the vets who roleplay
solid hinge
I never got those bf4 vets anyways
BF4 is a causal game and hardcore mode is just cheaply tacked on
Just play RS2 or Arma
Arma is pretty fun with a milsim unit
Arma is like hardcore milsim tho
RS2 is literally just Battlefield 2 without jets
Not really
Arma 3 is played by alot of people
BF4 hardcore is like casual milsim
No BF4 hardcore isn't a milsim at all
solid hinge
There's absolutely nothing milsim about BF4 hardcore
It is if you tailor the server to be like one
midnight nimbus
2 tap people with the SCAR-H
midnight nimbus
RS2V is literally what milsim BF players actually want to play
solid hinge
I mean you can disagree
Those are true milsims
But ive played with these guys
And thats how theyre treating it
midnight nimbus
Squad is griefing simulator
solid hinge
You don't even play squad kht
midnight nimbus
why would i
midnight nimbus
i'm not gonna pay $60 just to grief people when i can do it for free in BFV
solid hinge
Also teamkilling is nonexistent because the people playing are not brainless chickens
like yourself
frank loom
does squad even have progression?
midnight nimbus
mfw there are YTers with channels based on Squad teamkilling
solid hinge
Tbh imo milsims are pretty stupid in general
midnight nimbus
no penalty for teamkill, epic af
solid hinge
Just play airsoft or something
you don't need progression to make a good game
it's about teamplay
You get kicked if you don't have a mic lol
it's that dedicated
midnight nimbus
every game has as much teamplay as you wanna put into it
solid hinge
Except battlefield
frank loom
nah, i don't see a point in video games without progression
midnight nimbus
BF at max teamplay is great
you've never played in large coordinated groups
it's 10/10
pearl siren
new map any good?
midnight nimbus
ez spawntraps
solid hinge
Same Xealyth
sacred junco
BF at max teamplay sounds like it'll break the game
frank loom
exactly
midnight nimbus
search "Casual Farmers Association" on YouTube if you wanna see what it looks like
pearl siren
bf at max teamplay sounds like a faster squad
solid hinge
Okay wait
midnight nimbus
BF at max teamplay is just turbocancer ez wins
solid hinge
has anyone here but me actually played squad
midnight nimbus
i'll prolly get it if it drops below $30
frank loom
if you want actual hardcore just play tarkov
midnight nimbus
but i literally only want squad to teamkill people
weak jolt
but i literally only want squad to teamkill peoplelmao
pearl siren
its the best team based shooter, only problem is performance but that doesnt matter because building stuff and healing people is more important
frank loom
team killing is hilarious
pearl siren
@frank loom ayy
midnight nimbus
hence waiting for the price to drop
frank loom
love that shit
solid hinge
I love building fortifications as a combat engineer
fuck yes mining roads
Not a huge fan of griefing myself
pearl siren
i like the medic class the most
solid hinge
Medic is a good class for starters
I think theres more to games than just being a prick
pearl siren
i havent played the us faction since v12 lol
i always play militia or russian ground forces
frank loom
what do you mean dude
pearl siren
yes
frank loom
i blow into my mic and spam expletives on the daily
pearl siren
project reality
frank loom
im a true adhd sperg kid
solid hinge
Project reality is fun lol
pearl siren
imagine having idf in squad
solid hinge
I think they can't legally
pearl siren
we can talk about pr and squad in this chat because technically they are battlefield games
pearl siren
why cant they have idf? other modern games like csgo have it
frank loom
if they put wake island in bf5 they might be forgiven
solid hinge
It had the taliban too
pearl siren
i havent seen gaming journalists get upset about csgo idf
frank loom
controversial?
pearl siren
it also had syrian arab army
frank loom
more like having balls
pearl siren
and free syrian army
sacred junco
Remember Medal of Honor?
solid hinge
I think it's because In project reality you have what is essentially a really realistic war game
pearl siren
@frank loom "the 👌 means white supremacy"
@solid hinge project reality isnt perfect tho, its kinda clunky
hushed mesa
:^)
midnight nimbus
the closest thing to milsim I find mechanically enjoyable is Insurgency
frank loom
👌
midnight nimbus
bc it's not clunky af
solid hinge
It is but it's scary as hell
pearl siren
insurgency is smooth as hell
midnight nimbus
or like ArmA which requires a billion keybinds
pearl siren
its like csgo but better
solid hinge
MEC forces rise up
hoary condor
Rule 1 too avoid dying.. avoid bullets 
#TheMoreYouKnow
midnight nimbus
gun sounds in insurgency are also absolutely sexual
pearl siren
mec would be cool, g3 and modern aks
frank loom
just done die 4head loooooool
pearl siren
how come most triple a games say russia bad
frank loom
hey, new COD trailer out
pearl siren
oh shid waddup
hoary condor
Mercury is going to take time to adapt the style of map and how you find a new strategy to fight
solid hinge
oh no
frank loom
cant wait to play as captain price and kill umbrella corporation
midnight nimbus
mercury looks like AP mine heaven 😍
hoary condor
this is #battlefield-legacy-titles
frank loom
apologies
solid hinge
Mercury breaktrhogh has camping tanks as bad as aerodrome
midnight nimbus
mercury breakthrough doesn't get tanks until the end right?
charred heron
Mercury is just trash
midnight nimbus
I remember being really disappointed when i found out about vehicle quantities
solid hinge
needs more extended space
midnight nimbus
LAME
solid hinge
It could use them the most on those sectors tbh
solid hinge
clean your glasses mon cherie
icy sluice
Cough
hoary condor
yet add vehicles to Fortress Hamada
solid hinge
They should say fuck it and give players a custom gamemode editor
hoary condor
RSP could give that option
solid hinge
with full control over things like stuff like vehicle numbers, vehicle timers, map boundaries, control point locations, ticket sizes
with full control over things like stuff like vehicle numbers, vehicle timers, map boundaries, control point locations, ticket sizes
Ive gone 0-5 to one guy that keeps flanking
Because they keep on adding in these mods
just give an editor
Ive never attacked on mercury breakthrough
solid hinge
???
frank loom
if they do people will see incompetent AAA dev team
midnight nimbus
as imbalanced as DICE design can be, i have 100% faith that the community will only make it significantly worse
sacred junco
people are just gonna play insta vehicle insta spawn servers
solid hinge
Are you against mod support or something?
midnight nimbus
^
frank loom
if they do people will see incompetent AAA dev team
sacred junco
I don't want the community to have power over what they want
frank loom
can't have that
midnight nimbus
I am 3000% against mod support in BF
sacred junco
I would prefer the devs to have a vision and adjust it if its horrible
sacred junco
Mods are okay in my opinion
midnight nimbus
look at how awful BF4 RSP is nowadays and make it 100x worse
sacred junco
Just not server settings
sacred junco
I think we are talking over each other
turbid carbon
Wait can we buy the Boys?
midnight nimbus
you're gonna get shit like Siege of Shanghai, instant attack helis without counters
sacred junco
Think he meant mods and us server settings
midnight nimbus
> literally half the series wouldn't exist
a man can only wish
solid hinge
As in
Battlefield 2 and it's subsequent sequels wouldn't exist without Battlefield1942 desert combat
coral fiber
1 team vs. 1 expert helicopter pilot who will win?
midnight nimbus
> implying Battlefield titles before BF3 matter
sacred junco
Even BF2 last time I played was 50% instal spawn karkand
and Karkand was the proto Metro
sacred junco
with the added benefit of undestructible mines
solid hinge
or just mods which do shit like add dumb stuff
midnight nimbus
mod support is cool for PVE games
sacred junco
thats the golden standard for many these days
solid hinge
No like,
mods which add new factions
and more community made maps
Something which TF2 does
That's good
midnight nimbus
I don't care for mods that add content because their exist allows for mods that ruin the game
solid hinge
Well yeah those mods do exist
solid hinge
I mean you don't know that
I've designed TF2 maps and most of the release canidates are excellent
It's a serious profession
which can get you into game dev
midnight nimbus
community support is awesome in communities that aren't FPS
solid hinge
I mean I disagree
midnight nimbus
there's a reason why FPS is a meme to other game genres
solid hinge
you can have an FPS game with mod support and stuff like that
charred heron
Mercury Breakthrough is the worst experience in BFV so far
sacred junco
To me its not that mods and modders are bad
charred heron
Especially since most defenders whiff you away as a Sniper (or both sides have way too many snipers)
sacred junco
I have little faith in modern BF base to support a kind of game I like
frank loom
if they can make a map like in tf2 for easy grind im all in lmao
sacred junco
if the modders have their own vision that they can win over people with fine
charred heron
Also, back in BF3 when this map layout was created, Recons didn't have the Boys AT rifle
solid hinge
Mercury breakthrough feels like it was supposed to be part of grind
sacred junco
but not BF4Reddit kind of mod
charred heron
Mercury Breakthrough is just trash