Bombers are still broken and medium planes got huge buffs
#battlefield-legacy-titles
charred heron
proven acorn
the new aa is great wym. beam a bomber till you overheat for 50 damage
charred heron
Or more if Support
serene patrol
The just Mercury servers are nice but.......axe the breakthrough part
charred heron
But AA with the patch before was plain bad
silver niche
Let me tell you it is super hard shooting a fighter down once your a bomber 
hazy wasp
Planes suiciding is the biggest proble in air to air atm
how the fuck will people level up when you only get 90 points per vehicle
serene patrol
only way to level up planes is fjell spam
proven acorn
bombers can just fly straight over too you while youre nailing them with aa and nuke ya
serene patrol
otherwise you waste your time
proven acorn
not underpowered at all
charred heron
I shot down a damn Mosquito in a bomber while it fully blasted me
silver niche
If you exit a plane and the plane crashes at some enemies, it actually dose poibts
charred heron
F U N
silver niche
Points*
serene patrol
dogfighting clearly isnt fun, so just removal all fighters
only bombers exist
and remove the guns on bombers too
charred heron
Fighters are absurd
silver niche
It could be fun if the oppenet tries to dodge you instead of dying
twilit pelican
Im anger
charred heron
Either the player is so bad that He couldn't shoot down a plane even if he tries or he blasts you from max range with mindgame shots
twilit pelican
I spent 3 days trying to disable a turret on a tank
solid hinge
people give up in planes literally as soon as you start shooting unless you're playing breakthrough
serene patrol
I always try to shake a fighter, just too easy to run into a building
solid hinge
I've shot bombers that have bailed before I've done 10 damage
hazy wasp
nah we shouldn't make fun that tank turret thing can be a bitch
silver niche
Now taking out turrets or AA guns with bombers are easy
solid hinge
also goddamn mercury just isnt fun
serene patrol
no it isnt
hazy wasp
@solid hinge did you try using a tiger cannon on panzer ?
silver niche
Once you go to their direction just wait for them to shoot
serene patrol
anything good from it is ONLY because its NEW
silver niche
Then follow that shooting
twilit pelican
Im not gonna be getting that boys at rifle
proven acorn
i hear mercury is good to drink
serene patrol
give it a week, everyone will hate it
silver niche
Then bomb the aa gun
solid hinge
im really trying to like it but conquest is conquest and breakthrough on it is SHIT
twilit pelican
Guess ill pay for it at some point
silver niche
JESUS SPAM
hazy wasp
you can get it when the CC one is in the store
twilit pelican
What
solid hinge
mercury breakthrough is literally worse than grind
twilit pelican
I thought they made you pay with bc
serene patrol
If it were conquest only, instant vehicles and 2000 tickets I'd like mercury more.......but that's true for all the maps lul
hazy wasp
@solid hinge Map needs more cover and flags need to be moved around a bit
proven acorn
i love all these people camping with the boys. so many free knife kills
hazy wasp
if the map were like 10-20% bigger it'd be much better
mystic wolf
https://preview.redd.it/6506yjrzqjv21.png REDBEARDT ANGRY
serene patrol
did DICE nerf flares recently or something
twilit pelican
Plus i looked for the fireaxe in the cc store and couldnt find it
mystic wolf
400k cc cant do shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
hazy wasp
@twilit pelican it'll be in your Armory under your melee weapons no?
solid hinge
fire axe counts as a cosmetic I think
serene patrol
the color flares make on the minimap is ugly and they don't last as long
solid hinge
they made flares yellow for some goddamn reason but I think they stay for the same length
serene patrol
its horrible, it's actually harder to spot people now
serene patrol
agreed, when shitbucket is censored.........we got problems
That's very un battlefield like
twilit pelican
Battlefield is rated M
proven acorn
the games rated 18 and older but you cant curse without being censored
serene patrol
speaking of tanks, oh look a tank map only playlist..........it'll be gone next week probably
rinse and repeat
twilit pelican
online is not rated
solid hinge
auughfushdhdhdhdhrh I just blew up against thin air THREE TIMES in a row
I hate this bug filled piece of shit
proven acorn
the tank only playlist is fun. good place to get kills on nooob tanks
twilit pelican
Did they fix the stuttering yet
proven acorn
NO
solid hinge
no
serene patrol
Everyone back to BF4 
> 
YEEEEEAAAAH BOOOIIII LETS GET THIS CIRCLEJERK GOING
solid hinge
NO!!!!!!!!!!
proven acorn
is there a fix for that?
twilit pelican
@solid hinge super mad about frontlines you got no idea
hazy wasp
nah 4's traversal sucks
serene patrol
wow hold on, did you just badmouth BF4
hazy wasp
ill badmouth aspects of 4 sure
serene patrol
I might agree with you.......
hazy wasp
haha
twilit pelican
@hazy wasp gunplay is not up to par
proven acorn
at least soldiers dont blend into the shadows in 4
hazy wasp
the only thing 4 has on V right now is better maps and vehicles
opaque cipher
And performance
hazy wasp
thats a given
hazy wasp
meh V is basically hardcore
hazy wasp
whata re you going to do in V more hardcore than it is, fart in the general direction of the enemy and they take 60 damage
twilit pelican
I wish they would remaster 3 and make it optimized like 4 with gunplay like V
proven acorn
with all the netcode damage stacking i can agree
serene patrol
yeah I'd play the shit outa a remastered BF3
solid hinge
Love playing any conquest map with a 1/3 of the enemy using the boys and hiding lmao
twilit pelican
And they are shitting on the experience
opaque cipher
hazy wasp
i think the greater focus on infantry now is hurting the game
and restricting where players go on the map
twilit pelican
@hazy wasp what?
opaque cipher
serene patrol
emote spam is quickest way to get banned here
proven acorn
and nah, i miss people laying down inside downed enemies and glitched into underbrush and debris more than anything
opaque cipher
Lmao bot caught him
twilit pelican
Panzerstorm is the worst map in the game
serene patrol
gotem
solid hinge
Was excited for more infantry based maps but nope Mercury is just two big hills with no cover on 1/3rd of the map
twilit pelican
Its unbalanced
hazy wasp
Panzerstorm is one of the best maps in the game
twilit pelican
No its not
solid hinge
It's very pretty tho
serene patrol
all the maps are the worst
solid hinge
this game needs less infantry focus
hazy wasp
it is the most Battlefield feeling map in the entire game lol
twilit pelican
Theres no cover between objectives
solid hinge
Panzerstorm is long fields wow so fun
opaque cipher
Nah just better vehicle balance
solid hinge
going back to 4 made me realize how v lost that magic that made me fall in love with bf
hazy wasp
theres tons of cover
twilit pelican
Its unbalanced
hazy wasp
theres literally ditch paths everywhere
solid hinge
Not enough
opaque cipher
Faster turn rate, faster traversal and better dog fights pls
serene patrol
Delete Breakthrough now DICE
solid hinge
And you would know that if you didn't camp tank every game lol
serene patrol
and grand ops, no one will care
solid hinge
i dont tank camp
twilit pelican
Its a vehicles sandbox
hazy wasp
saying facts doesn't stop me thinkign Panzerstorm is a great map lol
solid hinge
the whole vehicle meta in this game is just aids
serene patrol
yeah thats Battlefield, a vehicle sandbox
solid hinge
They want breakthrough and grind to be popular like why why would you want that? Why would you want to encourage bipodded mmgs everywhere
twilit pelican
@hazy wasp its great in a tank
hazy wasp
EDC is great on foot
serene patrol
BF3 best vehicle balance amirite
hazy wasp
MMGs grew on me honestly
solid hinge
but because the best bipoded lmgs were slow killing ones, they werent a huge problem
Cause it's easy kills I wonder why
You mean all I have to do is lay down and I have a recoilless Lazer gun? Hmmmm
hazy wasp
Actually its because it is a choke point creation method when you are 'defending' an area
serene patrol
I havnt been killed my an MMG in awhile
solid hinge
It's unbalanced idc what they're trying to create
And I have a really bad feeling it's just gonna keep happening
The boys rifle proved it
serene patrol
It's usually one of the semi automatic rifles assault has
twilit pelican
When you play mmg so much you think like them so if you switch classes you tend to avoid them
hazy wasp
MMG's advantage is high rof + large magazine capacity, managed by having to deploy a bipod to use fffectively
I do nto see whats wrong here
twilit pelican
If you hate mmgs
solid hinge
2 ap mines to cover flank
hazy wasp
do you remember the M249 SAW in BF4?
twilit pelican
Your best option is to play them
solid hinge
I'm not the only one
hazy wasp
that had eff all recoin with a surpressor + a grip
serene patrol
yes thats the gun I used
hazy wasp
and no cooldown limiter
THAT was unbalanced
it was awesome, but that thing was broken
serene patrol
You paid for it with shit spread accuracy
twilit pelican
The mmgs cant be used standing unless bipoded
serene patrol
but other than that it was good
hazy wasp
was the M249 SAW
twilit pelican
Thats their caveat
serene patrol
omg it was hell doing the BF4 campaign for that gun
hazy wasp
jump into a trench hey fellas BRRRRRRRRRR
serene patrol
was never more bored in my life
twilit pelican
They are shit unless someones is 5 feet infront of you
hazy wasp
Opening and the prison break
twilit pelican
Bf3 the best
solid hinge
i remember how it would keep resetting my fucking settings
hazy wasp
hahaha
solid hinge
sinai's end of round is soooo good
no surprise they're not making any new music for the new maps
sad
hazy wasp
I have a bullshit theory that I am probably totally wrong
twilit pelican
Bfv is regressing in what makes bf great
solid hinge
Yes
hazy wasp
I think this game was mean't to be the one after whats coming next
solid hinge
they literally regressed on everything that made bf1 good
I just wish I knew what they were trying to fo
hazy wasp
V
solid hinge
and tried to replace it with.. who the fuck knows what
opaque cipher
Esports
hazy wasp
I think V was supposed to be coming later
plain laurel
Hello friends!
opaque cipher
They’re trying to reach for esports
solid hinge
why the fuck did they literally do everything they could to make bfv as unlike to bf1
WHY
why would they do that
Why are the maps not as good
hazy wasp
they are a bit late to the paerty aren;lt a lot of things gettign out of esports?
opaque cipher
Big screen means big money
twilit pelican
I hate random bullet velocity but i learned to compensate with bf1
serene patrol
reeeesports
solid hinge
you know what else makes big money?
appeasing to casual gamers
and the core bf audience
opaque cipher
solid hinge
I like bfvs mechanics
opaque cipher
But that’s too easy
hazy wasp
BFV mechanics are on paper good when they work
solid hinge
The guns and classes need a rework
hazy wasp
Assault is unbalanced
solid hinge
but appeasing to both is most likely much easier than trying to appease to whoever the fuck they're going for now
hazy wasp
if we wanna talk about unbalanced thigns in the game
solid hinge
because they're not doing it right now
twilit pelican
Bfv is good on paper
hazy wasp
btw fortnite tried to appease both 'pro' and casual players and it made the game super unfun
hazy wasp
whats the max rockets assault can have, 3?
twilit pelican
Yes
hazy wasp
3 rockets + 3 dynamite + an AT frag bundle
hazy wasp
that too
solid hinge
or call in a supply drop
twilit pelican
You spawn with enough to take out 1 tank though
hazy wasp
to be fair resupplys have cooldowns so im not gonna bitch on those
Taking out a heavy tank should be a squad thing to do
twilit pelican
2 rockets 2 dynamite 1 at frag kills a tank
twilit pelican
They dont have at mines???
plain laurel
Hi.
twilit pelican
They have ap mines
hazy wasp
Assaults have AT mines
hazy wasp
Sticky Dynamite, Frag Grenade Rifle and AT mines
twilit pelican
I thought support had at and assualt had ap
solid hinge
mercury needs boots
hazy wasp
support has AT and AP
solid hinge
ugh dont tell me i have to wait until chapter 5 for boots
even bf4 and 1 had boot combat from the start
what
serene patrol
lulululululululululululululululululul
solid hinge
Support having ap mines is the most op
Ap mines are insta kill when you put them next to each other
hazy wasp
supports shouldn;t have AP mines
hazy wasp
Medics and assaults should
solid hinge
it's a frikkin island
hazy wasp
Recons should have Dyanmite instead of AP mines
hazy wasp
I'd take away dynamite from assault and swap it with recons AP mines
but only give 2 sticks of dynamite to the recon MAX
icy sluice
All classes minus the Assault have ap mines
hazy wasp
so they do lol
solid hinge
it's like they ran out of gadget ideas
hazy wasp
it'd of been cooler if they locked gadgets to combat roles
probably more balanced too
i think they did run out of gadget gear lol
its likes oemthign I;d do
uh..give em ap mines
like the medic only has AP mines and a smoke launcher
soft storm
Medic should’ve had some crazier shit IMO
soft storm
give them a syringe that buffs a players move speed
solid hinge
fuck this fundamentally broken game
soft storm
But can only be used on other players
hazy wasp
see Modern day or slightly in the future midern day is more fun for gadgets
solid hinge
if something as basic as shooting doesnt consistently work 6 months after launch it can fuck off
play
another
game
save yourself
im getting mk11 today
wooooooo
hazy wasp
@solid hinge stop, close the game down and give yourself an hour lol
soft storm
Do cocaine
solid hinge
the gameplay also looks dope
soft storm
solid hinge
you know what other game still has frontlines?
hazy wasp
I just jump in For honor and god tier some noobs
soft storm
BF1...
hazy wasp
insert meme with dad at door with belt
soft storm
I’ve been meaning to reinstall BF1 ngl
solid hinge
i could play it for hours and hours
im genuinely considering playing bf1 again
even soissons was great
i don't remember hitreg issues
soft storm
I really don’t like BF1 that much in hindsight
solid hinge
bf1 frontlines was fucking amazing i'll tell you that
hazy wasp
I'd play 4 before I;d play 1 again
solid hinge
I dont even like 1 but I cant stand these constant fucking issues with five anymore
hazy wasp
We CoULD aLl gO PlAy Ww3 GuYZ
solid hinge
Trying to like something that is actively fuckint up continuously is a lot harder than enjoying something I know I dont like
south hornet
so
soft storm
But it might be what I have to fucking do
south hornet
greek map is live now?
soft storm
Yes
south hornet
great!
south hornet
uff
hazy wasp
Mid tier map until they fix issues with it
twilit pelican
Apologies
hazy wasp
its liek Narvik level
soft storm
The issues are not even with the modes itself
soft storm
They won’t
hazy wasp
nah
south hornet
against spaghetti dudes
south hornet
USSR?
soft storm
Ironic
hazy wasp
i mean I wouldn't use that term because its lame but its a bit crap if we don;t get the soviets
soft storm
They’re coming...
twilit pelican
Russia has to come
soft storm
It is coming... it makes no sense to make so much content in BF1 that could be used as a basis in BFV
solid hinge
call of huty?
soft storm
Company of Heroes
soft storm
🤦
hazy wasp
that was good honestly
soft storm
They’re still updating CoH2
hazy wasp
CoD did decent soviet stuff as well
soft storm
Too bad by updating it means making every single strategy for multiplayer a seperate micro transaction
There’s some things I wish Battlefield V did that Company of Heroes 2 did so well
solid hinge
they're looking into loadout options and they're not sure they can bring them to realisation according to partwelsh
something as basic as loadouts
how can you not have something like that
hazy wasp
lads..
solid hinge
i honestly dont understand
hazy wasp
I assume they build everythign from scratch every time
solid hinge
they were in bf1 werent they?
hazy wasp
thats the only explaination
solid hinge
why would you build it from the ground up and not include loadouts in your multiplayer fps
the only explanation I can see at that point is incompetence
i dont understand
hazy wasp
man I have no idea but its sounds like soemthign a game dev would do
Like build a core framework where you can just slot in new parts
the game as good as it is has an air of we build things on the fly as they are needed
silver niche
Shh
hazy wasp
?
twilit pelican
Lazy devs exist
twilit pelican
Most of the studios i looked up to growing up are now lazy
Bethesdas creation engine is older than the call of duty IW engine
At least Frostbite is built from scratch with middleware
hazy wasp
the CoD Engine is a heavily modified version of ID tech btw
twilit pelican
Im aware
hazy wasp
built for preformance , tis why you generally get 60fps all the time
twilit pelican
Quake engine
hazy wasp
Id Tech is what quake runs on
silver niche
I just played firestorm, a Staghound T17E1 downed everyone exept me, i was in a sturmtiger, it shot my left side it tried to go behind me then got stuck, i turned the sturmtiger around then shot one bullet the staghound T17E1 exploded and i realised that the entire opponents squade was in there so they all died, when i had time to spare, i revived all my teammates.
twilit pelican
The engine is called the quake engine
I used the console prompt to pull Call of Duty 1.3 servers FTP admin passwords in 2005 was lit
solid hinge
something as basic as loadouts should be a function
having to swap multiple gadgets and weapons depending on the situation is time consuming as fuck
silver niche
What if there was a new loadout?
solid hinge
combat roles dont count because the other combat role is usually shit and I want the first one
I mean for fucks sake the fucking combat roles function as loadouts
God
hazy wasp
I wish the combat roles were actually a thing
hazy wasp
I would rpefer a more restrictive gagdet experience if combat roles actually gave me more options for play
silver niche
@solid hinge your pfp reminds me of hat in time for some reason
solid hinge
the rest of the TOW is shit and I have no interest in playing it when it's a stuttering buggy mess regardless of whatever flavour of the week game mofe they throw in
guess I'll come back next update
twilit pelican
@hazy wasp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech_3
solid hinge
@silver niche it's not quite but you have good taste
hazy wasp
popularly known
twilit pelican
First sentence literally says Quake engine.
hazy wasp
sow e are both right
silver niche
@solid hinge the next update will be pretty big.
hazy wasp
it says popularly known
proven acorn
yea whats with the random stutters every minute or so?
twilit pelican
@proven acorn bad optimization
proven acorn
go from 140 fps down to like 2 for a second
silver niche
twilit pelican
The stutters are really bad between b and e on twisted steel
proven acorn
is there a fix out for it?
solid hinge
it better be big
twilit pelican
Its the game
solid hinge
im tired of trying to enjoy this
twilit pelican
It happens on other maps
solid hinge
shouldnt have to try to enjoy a game
it should inherently be enjoyable
that's the point
twilit pelican
Im not playing until its fixed
silver niche
Every time i spot a enemy tank below a cliff i have to go down because it wont aim then i try to fire but when its traveling down the hill it keeps on bumping while the enemy tank just blows me up like its nothing
proven acorn
its not like im using old hardware, im using an rtx 2080 ti, i5 9600k at 5.2, and 16 gb of ram
twilit pelican
Its really difficult to be accurate
solid hinge
im tired of laughing at bugs they cant fix
proven acorn
usually sit around 140 fps at 1440p
solid hinge
if they cant fix them then so be it i wont play
hazy wasp
At least PS5 is next year
silver niche
You know how in battlefield 1 you can shoot the driver IN the plane
hazy wasp
the CPU is horribly holding 4 back atm
twilit pelican
@hazy wasp ps5 wont come out until the end of next year if it does
hazy wasp
PS5 will be fall 2020
solid hinge
tfw no futuristic battlefield on next gen consoles with technologically advanced sandbags
silver niche
Is it possible you can shoot through the glass and hit the driver in battlefield v?
silver niche
Oh
solid hinge
someone has a clip of them hitting the pilot on reddit
hazy wasp
Battlefield 2143
solid hinge
It's the only one I've ever seen though
hazy wasp
In collaberation between DICE and respawn entertainment
twilit pelican
They always launch new consoles on a new fiscal year
hazy wasp
one can only get so erect
solid hinge
tfw no battlefield titanfall
silver niche
@solid hinge can you dm a link
twilit pelican
Around Christmas
hazy wasp
Titanfall level polish of mechanics, with Battlefield Scale in 64 player battles
I am getting a contact high off this thought
solid hinge
@silver niche I cant find it but it definitely exists somewhere
tfw no wall running in a destructible environment
😣
Since they are working on many maps without being constrained by DLC times, would you think they would release new maps by two months? Not getting hopes up though...
twilit pelican
Im more into jedi fallen order
solid walrus
Anyone need one for firestorm?
solid hinge
I'd like to point out the airfield and the British ruins from breakthrough mercury arent even in conquest
Yes.
twilit pelican
Hope they finally produce something good with the exclusive deal going on with Disney
solid hinge
Could be used for Airborne as well when Marita starts
5 bucks says the map was intended to be bigger and use both of them but they didnt end up getting boats finished so they made it smaller
twilit pelican
Uboats
solid hinge
it feels weird that the extra little island is irrelevant as well
twilit pelican
Remember tdm noshar?
sullen talon
Don't you just love the people on Areodrome that use AA Tanks?
solid hinge
it looks pretty but everything in frostbite looks pretty
I'm not impressed by this map at all
The real Crete also involved Gebirgsjäger troops (mountain infantry), so mountains could have been implemented too
The ones south of the play area
twilit pelican
I miss tdm noshar
sullen talon
Don't you just love the people on Areodrome that use AA Tanks
Knowing dang well there aren't any planes to kill with them?
twilit pelican
AI is my fav tank
sullen talon
twilit pelican
You gotta get wet somehow
proven acorn
so what happened to killcams?
solid hinge
Kind of like Lancang Dam?
soft storm
Yes
twilit pelican
@soft storm a place for blueberries to lay down and snipe?
twilit pelican
I love it
soft storm
My perspective with game design is fun coming first
twilit pelican
Very casual-esque battlefield
soft storm
If a player chooses to lay prone an entire match that’s their conundrum
twilit pelican
You are only as good as your team
Considering its usually not just 1 player but 6 or 7 its a hurt for the team
I also don't find 0-400 to be "Fun"
solid hinge
i havent had a single close game on mercury
they've all been stomps
It drains tickets faster than any other map
I've had a fair close one
a 0-50
which is a bit close
So it's either close or stomp
feels like im constantly being shot by the hills as well
wherever i go there's some dude with a 10 metre height advantage and a big gun
One small bright side is I found out that the APCR spec for the boys doesnt damage tanks but you can still disable their components with it
twilit pelican
I want to play the new map but the bitterness of the TOW reward and the stuttering leave me not wanting to
solid hinge
so if you want to be a very annoying mosquito you can bully heavy tanks by busting their engines and turrets
Yeah, could have given us a full Fallschirmjäger themed cosmetic set
soft storm
Is it actually that bad?
solid hinge
The switchblade isn't enough for today
soft storm
I don’t have wifi because of the Dayton tornados
So I guess I’m gonna have to use hotspot to check this out
twilit pelican
@soft storm is what?
soft storm
The stuttering
solid hinge
The stuttering has got me killed an absolutely infuriatingly large amount of times
twilit pelican
@soft storm yes
twilit pelican
It wasnt the map
solid hinge
There's basically no excuse for this, if it were any other game people would be furious
soft storm
Oh god don’t tel me
twilit pelican
It popped with the spotlight over players update
solid hinge
but this has been so shit already that people just shrug and get on with it
soft storm
Oh thaaaaat update
Yeah nah I haven’t had any stutters
And I play on a laptop...
That’s real odd
solid hinge
I wish they fix the stuttering...we didn't have that at launch
This also happens when TOW assignments are done
twilit pelican
@soft storm try between b and e on the bridge of twisted steel
Its very noticeable there
soft storm
Don’t get it
solid hinge
there's massive freezes every time you get a kill in a tank
that's been happening for a while now
soft storm
That’s real odd, I wonder if it’s gpu based.
twilit pelican
I saw someone on firestorm get it shooting the 6 pounder it froze for 4 seconds
soft storm
AMD?
twilit pelican
@soft storm it happens on ps4 and they use amd
solid hinge
I got a quad kill with the pz4 and my game froze for like 6 seconds
soft storm
AMD has always had issues with the frostbite engine IIRC
twilit pelican
@soft storm but you cant blame AMD
solid hinge
hooray for more bugs effecting fundamental parts of the game
soft storm
I always blame the developer for something like that
Just like how Skyrim is still to this day broke on PS3 yet completely playable on Xbox 360
Devs fault
twilit pelican
Thats like everyone blaming sony for bethesda not allowing external asset mods on ps4 because their engine produces files that conflict with the ps4 os and its literally their fault as Farming Simulator uses external asset mods
twilit pelican
Devs
warm atlas
After a few games Mercury feels a bit better. There was one lobby where it was like sniper galore.
twilit pelican
Im just SAYING
soft storm
Ok lemme see how bad this is
soft storm
Doubt it, most people already had that turned off
twilit pelican
@warm atlas compared to Aerodrome how bad is it?
serene patrol
WoW has proper dx12, nothing but gains
twilit pelican
proven acorn
yea wow is known for its graphic realism
warm atlas
A game I played earlier it was worse. Far worse. It’s still pretty bad for snipers. But idk, it’s more close quarters than Aerodrome
twilit pelican
@warm atlas thats good
serene patrol
Close quarters reeee
twilit pelican
Only safe places on aero for me was d and c
proven acorn
close quarters with good players is hell
serene patrol
Dice messed up the tank battle playlist by having aerodrome in it
twilit pelican
Id rather have an abundance of cqc than snipers constantly picking off people
proven acorn
snipers pick people off? only time i really die to snipers is when i stand still or am at super low health
solid hinge
odd choice for hamada to be in the tank battles playlist
twilit pelican
@proven acorn i get picked off at A from b on twisted steel all the time it happens a lot
solid hinge
i dont think ive ever seen two tanks fight each other on hamada
serene patrol
wait is it really
proven acorn
half the time i can just challenge them with a dmr and win anyway-
solid hinge
they get mauled by infantry before they get close to each other
warm atlas
It’s more annoying to be constantly tagged by snipers than it is just dying in one hit.
solid hinge
yeah exactly
proven acorn
very true poet
serene patrol
Should've just been panzerstorm
soft storm
Gonna be honest
proven acorn
i still get frag rifled a lot
soft storm
I think this map plays fine
serene patrol
Most fun I had in BFV was the panzerstorm grand ops
twilit pelican
Bf3 was great with air superiority and and tank superiority
warm atlas
Getting shot in the back with a sniper right as you’re about to get into a gunfight is the worst.
twilit pelican
They literally made a map and game mode for everyone
proven acorn
i loved the bf4 at jet.
warm atlas
I hate Panzerstorm.
coral fiber
I just sniped someone from 212m lol
serene patrol
they satisfied no one in the process
twilit pelican
@serene patrol bf3?
proven acorn
i still remember the rage from aa players dying to bombs dropped on em from 1000 feet up
coral fiber
Haaaaa
warm atlas
My longest headshot was with a Gewehr 43. Lel
serene patrol
oh nvm thought you were talking about bfv
random pine
Mercury has one issue imo, there is not enough cover on B and C after the buildings has been destroyed, if you go to the flag you're rekt by surrounding snipers and the enemy which is coming from every direction and has advantage of the terrain giving them cover to shoot you from
proven acorn
panzer is a great place or easy tank kills
warm atlas
There needs to be sandbag fortifications in the barracks buildings @random pine
proven acorn
toss your dynamite on their ass and blow it up with you piat, insta death
warm atlas
Also people don’t seem to dig the trenches on C. That is good cover
twilit pelican
People only build sandbag fortifications and wires
No one really uses any of the other fortifications
random pine
somebody has to build those sandbags, and if it's done then the first bomber destroys all the work with one bombing run
warm atlas
Well a bomber can destroy pretty much everything on mercury.
solid hinge
I thought they said the vehicles were asymmetrical
warm atlas
There’s like 1 map where you can build fortifications Inside destroyed buildings. But every map needs it
solid hinge
Do brits get 3 tanks and 2 planes and germans 2 tanks and 3 planes
not.. exactly what I was expecting
random pine
on hamada?
warm atlas
Mercury
soft storm
Nah, I don’t see what the deal was
Perhaps if the teams are ass
But I mean this isn’t even the worst map I’ve played in a battlefield game
lyric nimbus
heligoland bight is always worse
lyric nimbus
yeah
its very pretty
but otherwise yeeaa
I feel like it would be fun to fly around in if not for all the 100 star pilots
soft storm
This map is absolutely gorgeous
Also, all those 100 star pilots are gonna be gone in like a week
lyric nimbus
?
soft storm
They’ll all remember how ass the flying is
lyric nimbus
in bf1?
soft storm
Yeah sorry meant BFV
lyric nimbus
are there service stars in BFV?
soft storm
I know all the pilots in BFV are back to try out the new map
No I but I assumed you just meant sweaty pilots?
solid hinge
No service stars in BFV...bummer
I hope they bring it to be honest, gives a sense of achievement
solid hinge
zing
random pine
I lost my nerves with the map already tbh, played 6hrs straight and every round except 1 ended up to the first sector on breakthrough, on CQ it was either full cap to the germans or fight around C, even if people learn the map there is always that majority of players on the server who's only way to play the game is to run to the nearest flag or area of action to play TDM
solid hinge
i cant bear to play conquest
soft storm
Yes, because the map is asymmetrically balanced
BF has historically never done asymmetric well..l
solid hinge
at least on breakthrough and frontlines I can singlehandedly change stuff but on conquest I take one point and my team loses the other 4
fallow shadow
solid hinge
C flag is very open
soft storm
M16A3 vs Ak74 in BF3 is the best example
soft storm
Yeah, it’s literally a blitz on the Germans
I actually felt like I was there lol, killed 10 people with my Gewehr and then used a light tank to blitz
solid hinge
either they swarm through and take both points immediately, or they get pushed back and cant advance at all
and that's just the first sector
random pine
breakthrough would be probably much more balanced if the player count was something like 48, 64 is too much for 2 objectives because everyone tend to attack the same objective and doesnt split
silver niche
I just played firestorm, a Staghound T17E1 downed everyone exept me, i was in a sturmtiger, it shot my left side it tried to go behind me then got stuck, i turned the sturmtiger around then shot one bullet the staghound T17E1 exploded and i realised that the entire opponents squade was in there so they all died, when i had time to spare, i revived all my teammates.
solid hinge
First sector is too linear and too open
Barracks has too much destructible cover
Attacker flanks are close to impossible
if only there was a mode with less players and one objective.. maybe for some kind of strategical gameplay..
yeah the first sector is straight up unflankable if the enemy has people at both sides
you have to kill everyone to advance
Second sector is too high ground, especially the cove where the hills are the killzone
A is also very small and in full view of like.. everyone
silver niche
If there was a mode with bombers vs artillary which is airborn but not bombers just paratroopers people, and the bombers could be controlled by players
strong parrot
lmao third time on mercury joined a team that ends up losing by 282
solid hinge
I wouldn't mind having Airborne planes in Sector 1 of Breakthrough to allow flanks.
strong parrot
fucking morons.....they lost ALL THE CAPS
how are they shit shit...fucking down to 1 cap for 1/4 of when i was there
teal phoenix
When does Mercury show up in the rotation?
soft storm
I think before or after twisted steel?
Also, I just played a match and I didn’t get like any stuttering
summer geyser
mercury is weird
soft storm
This is actually odd because usually the issues that people have I get like twice as bad
random pine
mercury is after hamada
ripe tendon
Is there still a sweet spot mechanic in BFV like there was in BF1 sniping
soft storm
No it’s a one shot
solid hinge
100m to the torso
summer geyser
oo
solid hinge
Beyond 100 it drops
summer geyser
i should really use that gun
soft storm
So it’s more like damage drop off
summer geyser
i literally just get a bunch of body shots
solid hinge
But the drawback is slow ROF and bipod mandatory
torpid summit
out of the 2 new elites which one should i get
summer geyser
you cant scope without bipod?
formal valve
Yeah use that gun if you want to be hated
solid hinge
Wilhelm @torpid summit
solid hinge
it's an anti tank gun
summer geyser
hm
solid hinge
the bolt equivalent of an mmg
formal valve
Use a rifle and practice hitting headshots
solid hinge
You can also use the Boys to help Assault players
summer geyser
tbh i just go iron sights with ross and call it a day
summer geyser
i dont do much but its honest work 
solid hinge
We feel ya @strong parrot
ripe tendon
So does that mean sniping is harder in BFV?
solid hinge
Unrewarding
summer geyser
yes and no
torpid summit
about to get the 2200 boins (hate me later) so what 2 things should i get then
summer geyser
theres no more of that suppression mechanic
torpid summit
summer geyser
where your bullet accuracy goes to the mars
i mean you still get a bunch of dust up your screen
solid hinge
Get Wilhelm and Ernst. They're both good @torpid summit
ripe tendon
In terms of actually hitting your target
torpid summit
already have ernst
ripe tendon
Is it easier to hit your target in BFV?
solid hinge
you have supreme accuracy while moving with snipers in bfv, but the body shot damage sucks, they're slow, and the bullet velocity is slower than basically every semi auto gun
formal valve
There’s suppression
torpid summit
or is stags blood a better choice
solid hinge
it's easier to hit your target but that goes double for the people shooting back at you
solid hinge
you lose sniper fights to assaults frequently
Stag's Blood is good when you want to combine Speciale torso and Stag's headgear
@torpid summit
or recons using the ZH
formal valve
Ain’t gotta worry bout a follow up if you drop em in one shot
formal valve
Hated it
torpid summit
didnt get speciale when it was around
formal valve
Took all the skill out of it
formal valve
If you practice like me
summer geyser
how does one practice headshot
formal valve
You can hit them quite easily
summer geyser
pay your enemy to stand still or something
solid hinge
Hmmm, I'd say you spend the boins for Wilhelm and Stag's Blood. Hanna is just a little lonely (lol), she's the only French
formal valve
Practice range has good practice
summer geyser
hm
strong parrot
lmao that fucking team
summer geyser
i see
strong parrot
is a waste of fucking server space
formal valve
Hanna speaks french and English
strong parrot
they just gave up the next fucking sector with out even trying to defend it basically
solid hinge
Wait what?
strong parrot
insta lose 1 point and then the enemy walks onto the other one..
torpid summit
shes parisian
ripe tendon
formal valve
Or lets go
torpid summit
so shes gonna speak some english lol
formal valve
But mostly french
torpid summit
surprised she just doesnt have all english with french accent lines
teal phoenix
The way some teams don't play the objective just makes me not want to play this anymore lol
solid hinge
One day I'll buy the starter and get two elites soon
solid hinge
tfw you forget to rebind hold breath
tfw you still dont need it at 200 metres
sway is non-existent
summer geyser
wait
torpid summit
i wish you could hold your breath too long and eventually die of oxygen deprivation
random pine
we need community servers, public servers has been always garbage when it comes to team play
summer geyser
does holding breath actually do something in bf5?
formal valve
Yeah
teal phoenix
Hard to be a one man army when the opposite team only knows how to go prone every time a bullet grazes by
solid hinge
I wish Hanna would be with a FFI faction when 1944 maps release...imagine the possibilities
It makes the very very minor sway go away
formal valve
Why would a resistance member be in the FFI?
summer geyser
i have the habit of holding my breath while sniping from cod but like
in bf5 it doesnt seem noticable
solid hinge
so useful at like.. 250 metres
summer geyser
i always feel like im just holding my breath for an infinite amount of time so i assumed that mechanic was removed lol
solid hinge
My bad...hmm
pretty much only at super long ranges with the 6x scope do you notice sway
summer geyser
oh i see
formal valve
It’s all good
solid hinge
it's effectively non-existent
formal valve
It’s pretty common for people to mistake that
summer geyser
ye the other day i was reflecting on why i even bother to hold breath
feels non existent
solid hinge
I use a sniper like 80% of the time and I've held my breath like.. 6 times I think
formal valve
Um why did that auto correct to the g word
solid hinge
I don't even hold breath
formal valve
I rebinded it to LT
solid hinge
Not a bad idea
formal valve
So it’s instantly ready
summer geyser
so like is it possible to see how many meters away someone is
is it the spot button?
or well
used to be the spot button
icy sluice
Spot Button can do that
summer geyser
oh ok
icy sluice
Spotting Scope also does that
formal valve
Use an objective close to them, use the ping button, or use the spotting scope
summer geyser
ive been guesstimating my distances the past month
formal valve
I prefer doing it the old fashioned way
sacred junco
why is the weather always cloudy when i play
summer geyser
and it works like 30% of the time
lol
so when exactly does bullet drop occur?
at what meters
sacred junco
its like going to a vacation spot only for the weather to be crappy all trip
formal valve
Depends on the rifle
summer geyser
for ross and similar velocity rifles
formal valve
Depends on bullet velocity
solid hinge
The weather actually feels like a lighter Paracel Storm
formal valve
On what?
formal valve
Mercury?
solid hinge
Yes
formal valve
I haven’t gotten weather yet
solid hinge
Same, but some players got it
They really changed the frequency of weather changes
BF1 had rampant changes
formal valve
Because the sun is shining in the sky! Not a cloud in sight, everybody’s in the play; don’t ya know? It’s a beautiful new day, ayayay
Sings mr blue sky in ww2
Lmao
ITS A BEAUTIFUL NEW DAY AYAYAY
icy sluice
2nd match of Mercury and I got rain
formal valve
hey you with the pretty face, welcome to the huuuman race (shows BF1 melee Combat
summer geyser
does sniper glare still occur during cloudy weather
formal valve
Yeah
solid hinge
I always think that the first maps for BFV symbolize the start of the war, bright and ready to be destroyed, then the end of war maps become too dark. Getting dimmer, basically
summer geyser
does sniper glare occur immediately after scoping in
summer geyser
lamee
lyric nimbus
bf1 but every scout is constantly emitting sniper glare
formal valve
That’s why I try to use ironsights and use the spotting scope to aim
lyric nimbus
ayy infantry rifles best rifles
solid hinge
I use the ironsight always in the RSC. Can't get over of medic RSC
lyric nimbus
just don't miss
solid hinge
Ross is 600m/s, same as the m95
formal valve
You can’t miss if you don’t take the shot
summer geyser
honestly whenever i miss i just keep firing at the relative area where i last saw the enemy
lyric nimbus
^^
lyric nimbus
is this bf1 we're talking about or bfv?
lyric nimbus
oh
solid hinge
kar has higher body shot damage
lyric nimbus
thought ross and m95 were from bf1
solid hinge
They've both been added to bfv
lyric nimbus
the m95 is the gewehr 95 right?
formal valve
Yes
lyric nimbus
the best gun in bf1 pretty much
solid hinge
Mhm
lyric nimbus
is it as godly in bfv?
formal valve
Gewehr M.95
sacred junco
nah the carbines take its role now
formal valve
Take that back
solid hinge
But lots of people consider it the best bolt
solid hinge
I won't!
lyric nimbus
oh damn it apparently unscopes
sacred junco
The Carcano carbine in BFV is the closest to the M.95
lyric nimbus
when you fire it
formal valve
They are great weapons
lyric nimbus
lame
formal valve
REE
solid hinge
My precious bolts deserve better
formal valve
*cries in bolt action sadness
lyric nimbus
bf1 its like nothing happens when you fire its so good
sacred junco
i can leave with shitty bolt rifles
silver niche
lyric nimbus
- it has no lame ass sweet spot so you can play aggressively rather than make everyone hate you
best sniper
though 98 is also quite nice
solid hinge
Everything is a lot easier to use in bfv
summer geyser
i thuoght kar was considered the best
solid hinge
Kar shoots reaaally slowly
summer geyser
o i see
lyric nimbus
wait is it possible for a gun to be easier than the mg1917?
solid hinge
m95 has high damage and decent rpm and 600m/s velocity so it's like the Jack of all trades
lyric nimbus
or like the automatico
solid hinge
Kar98k is the only way to go
With the Kar if you hit a body shot it's likely that they're gonna be in cover by the time you've bolted
Don’t hit body
Hit head
@lyric nimbus the semi autos in bfv literally only have vertical recoil
If you're hitting heads then the krag is superior cause it shoots faster and has one more in the mag
checkmate kar users
lyric nimbus
I don't think theres too much recoil in bf1 depending on the gun
summer geyser
is enfield the best iron scope bolt action?
lyric nimbus
the 1907 SL has like none
sacred junco
bf1 mostly had a lot of spread
summer geyser
i alawys thought assault class auto guns had a whole ton of recoil
sacred junco
but recoil was still mostly managable
lyric nimbus
depends on the gun but yeah
solid hinge
Some people say the Ross is better but for pure rate of fire and mag size the Lee Enfield is the best iron sights sniper yeah
lyric nimbus
hipfire isn't very valid in bf1
summer geyser
am i blind or the enfield iron sights is always blurry at the center
solid hinge
Lee has 500m/s velocity and ugly irons though