battlefield-legacy-titles

[wild jacinth]

gewerh is good

[floral belfry]

the M95 fired a round comparable to 30-06, where the K98 fires 8mm, the largest standard infantry round of WW2

[echo glen]

K98 close quarters is 👌

[floral belfry]

Gib G98 then

turkish G98 if you want to be period accurate

[graceful prairie]

who cares about calibers its all just pixels youre shooting in bf5

[floral belfry]

and gib Mauser Modelo 1916 for a close quarters variant to the G95

[echo glen]

Too bad we don't have variants

[floral belfry]

I mean we have both the Po8 and the carbine lmao

and we also have both the Lee enfield and the SMLE grenade launcher

those are variants

[rough river]

toucch

[formal valve]

*kicks open door Good day to ya all

[floral belfry]

no

[echo glen]

Guten Tag

[formal valve]

Guten Tag I’m taking over Prague

[echo glen]

[glacial berry]

Ist Guten tag.. Oder gut tagen ? 😝

[formal valve]

Man who else really wants the Stugka in this game

[glacial berry]

@formal valve sure

[echo glen]

Stugka?

[rough river]

Gluten tag

[echo glen]

Stuka or Stug?

[wild jacinth]

wait what they didn't remove ultra

wtf

@_@

i found it

it was hiding

[formal valve]

It’s a Stug with wings and a Jericho trumpet

[amber notch]

@rough river

[echo glen]

With two cannons on both wings

[formal valve]

[echo glen]

When we have US airborne grand ops please allow us to use the M22 Locust

[rough river]

[floral belfry]

I mean, the locust wasnt used by the americans as airborn nearly as much as it was by the british

[echo glen]

I know that the Brits requested it and the US built it

But they used it with mixed results

[floral belfry]

then why would they add a tank that the US rarely used in such a manner and never used it in the pacific theatre

[echo glen]

Because it would be cool

I mean historically inaccurate

[floral belfry]

you know what else would be cool? Not having SPAA tied to tank spawns

[echo glen]

[floral belfry]

take away 1 tank spawn per map, make it an SPAA specific spawn

then, add an alternate SPAA for both that is a heavy AA with airburst

[echo glen]

👍

I just need DICE to add the Panther Tank then I'll be happy

[floral belfry]

Finally found a heavy SPAA for britain

while they did have a couple on unarmoured trucks, britain themselves never had one

[random rock]

does it start with churchill

[floral belfry]

CANADA on the other hand

[echo glen]

Skink pls

[floral belfry]

Took the Ram tank chassis

[echo glen]

M4 with AA guns

[floral belfry]

and slapped a 3.7" AA gun

that's a 94mm gun on an upgraded M3 chassis

p l e a s e

[echo glen]

M3 Lee with AMX turret

[random rock]

quack le foch?

[formal valve]

Sir the 17 pounder won’t fit!

Walt Disney teaches you how to use the Boys AT https://youtu.be/9iL_6IyH9gs

[floral belfry]

THEN PUT A BOX IN THE BACK

[rugged cairn]

do all sniper scopes besides the iron sights have glint?

[graceful prairie]

at least you can say that the sniper has skill if he headshots you

boys is even easier to use than normal snipers

you dont even need to click heads

[stoic breach]

Pretty much the same as sweet spots

[wicked pollen]

boys is bullshit

great for infantry, shit for tanks, the opposite of what it should be

[graceful prairie]

boys is 0-100m

in bf1 at least you had 40-80 or 80-125

tbh it might not be so op on console

because people cant aim there

its not hard to use

[hybrid dock]

I like disabling turrets across the map

[graceful prairie]

you shoot heads

thats all

other classes need movement and aim

sniper is just pointing heads

you need one aim

other classes need two aim

thats literally bf snipers

noone snipes cqb

[scenic beacon]

excuse you

[graceful prairie]

if i play conquest i literally only see people camping

it actually needs skill then

[scenic beacon]

Who needs to shoot when you can just bayonet

[hybrid dock]

talk to my bayonet lmao

[graceful prairie]

no

[hybrid dock]

it's on my sniper

uh oh

[stoic breach]

Black role 👀

[hybrid dock]

you've angered the gods

[stoic breach]

Everyone did

Oh hello

Grey role

[hybrid dock]

yeah suddenly messages were being deleted

[opaque cipher]

Bot died

[hybrid dock]

it was spooky

[opaque cipher]

Everyone ate a mute

[stoic breach]

Yeah the bot died

[scenic beacon]

wtf

[opaque cipher]

Because bot thought everyone spammed

Stupid things

[graceful prairie]

bad bot

[undone gulch]

naughty

[stoic breach]

Thats pretty dunny

Happy april fools

You're a bit

Late

[hybrid dock]

the bot became sentient

[stoic breach]

Yes

[hybrid dock]

it recognized it's true power

[undone gulch]

its great potential

[opaque cipher]

I want to ban the bot

[undone gulch]

thats just gonna create high chaos

[scenic beacon]

Gulag EVERYTHING

[stoic breach]

Also getting insulted because I like the Boys is not nice 😔

[scenic beacon]

Boys is the only bolt rn that's worth it at least on console

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[hybrid dock]

wut

[undone gulch]

the boys is real good as long as you actually know how to use it

[stoic breach]

Yeah, its not meant to crossmap tanks

[solid hinge]

My brothers playing minecraft for the fkrst time in 8 years how do you play

[scenic beacon]

nobody can HIT super long range shots consistently on console, so engagements usually take place within the boys rifle's range

[undone gulch]

closer for tank damage, further for people damage

[solid hinge]

Does he have to make a house

[undone gulch]

yes

[stoic breach]

For some reason my top weapon on xbox is still the Kar98

And I dont know why

[undone gulch]

out of dirt

[hybrid dock]

literally all iterations of minecraft makes you make a house

[undone gulch]

out of dirt

start with dirt

do it

[stoic breach]

I'm gonna have to hit with you with that uh #general

Please leave my house

[scenic beacon]

off to the eastern front!

[undone gulch]

ok im out of your dirt house

time to take africa

[stoic breach]

Yeah I'm in an xbox party chat with Bluecrash and he actually thinks he's funny 🤡

[scenic beacon]

[undone gulch]

this hurts me and my golden 1897

[upper dew]

make bad company

[scenic beacon]

gold on the trench gun looks pretty good tbh

[undone gulch]

yeah it really does

but the goddamn sight

it doesnt bloody exist

and i find it dumbfounding

[stoic breach]

👽

[undone gulch]

like why not make it a gold rib

it

ANGERS ME

ok im done

[stoic breach]

aight

I have an idea for the Boys if people think its too OP

Reduce the max damage range and buff hipfire

So if people want recon shotgun they can have it

But it should still be a 1 shot out to at least 80m

And bring back sweet spots so its not just above every other gun

[gray glade]

or maybe just make it less accurate

[solid hinge]

fuck sweet spots

[stoic breach]

The Boys is the best right now because it pretty much has a long sweet spot

[gray glade]

that sounds perverted Ayla :d

[stoic breach]

Like they dont even need to be massive sweet spots

Its like a 10m wide sweet spot, could work

[solid hinge]

Now I have to ban myself..

[stoic breach]

Vro

[gray glade]

it was nice knowing you

farewell

[solid hinge]

I dont like sweetspots! I dont like em

[stoic breach]

I mean shotgun slugs have 10m sweet spots

[strong parrot]

sweet spot...did you mean the g spot? clippy

[stoic breach]

vrother

why

[solid hinge]

what's the point of getting sick head dinks if I can just camp within body shot distance

[stoic breach]

Thats shotgun slugs for you

[solid hinge]

That's an actual shotgun though

[stoic breach]

The Boys right now is basically also a slug shotgun

Very nice

[strong parrot]

i mean its a dumb fucking weapon to add either way

[gray glade]

if your aim is awesome, i reckon a normal bolt action is better than the Boys rifle tbh

[rugged cairn]

I wish we got customizable scope crosshairs back, like from bf1

[gray glade]

but it does help not having to do headshots constantly

[stoic breach]

I think it should've been a gadget but now that its a primary, why not make it worthwhile

[strong parrot]

its a .55 inch anti material rifle..

[stoic breach]

If the AWP or Kraber can be one shot kills, why not the Boys AT

[strong parrot]

if it didnt 1 hit kill up to 100m it would be actually moronic

[stoic breach]

And with rainbow scope glints in Battlefield 1, sweet spots were pretty balanced

If you had a long range iron sight gun and got a sweet spot kill you deserved it

[strong parrot]

love getting the 90 dmg hits though brings me back to the days of bf1 with the martini

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

Yeah the Boys is a nice bipod Martini Henry for me

Loved that gun

[strong parrot]

1 hit kill guns are no fun
semis that can effectively kill you in a hair longer time than a 1 hit, but still leaving no reaction time are fine

[solid hinge]

yeah that's the main thing

theres loads of guns that already kill you faster than you can react

so like.. what's the difference

[stoic breach]

Yeah while using the Boys I got headshot killed by the Gewehr 43 multiple times

I would rather be killed by the Boys than any SAR

[solid hinge]

getting 5 bursted by the mg42 is really not any different than the boys

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[strong parrot]

lol

[solid hinge]

apart from if you miss a boys shot you're fucked

[stoic breach]

At least the scopes on the Boys have glint

[strong parrot]

i can get a 3 kill with the p08 faster than I can the boys

[stoic breach]

yeah same

[strong parrot]

assuming were not talking right out to the 100m mark

[stoic breach]

Well in terms of effective range

[strong parrot]

also FUCKING BIPOD BUGS are still present

or is it just worse with the boys? i got to scope in..nothing happens

[stoic breach]

yeah bipod shit degrades the Boys into a low B or C tier weapon honestly

[strong parrot]

have to do it a couple times

[stoic breach]

Actually in terms of a tier list I would probably put the Boys into B tier

Its the best bolt action but it really isnt better than any other weapon in Assault class

And close range weapons still beat it

SLRs beat it at mid range

[solid hinge]

it's only annoying because the current shitty bolt action campers now have a gun with a much higher skill floor

it's really hard to be effective when you're aggressive with it

[stoic breach]

I still use it aggressively cause its so fun

[solid hinge]

you cant punish stationary people cause you have to set up yourself

Oh same its fucking rad

I've just been getting my ass beat even more than normal

And the bipod issues are even worse cause of the scope in times

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[strong parrot]

mhm

legit kill me in game when it happens

[solid hinge]

if you're proned you should just.. be bipodding

like

it doesnt make sense

[stoic breach]

Yeah

And the fact that it can't ADS is a good balancing factor

I really hope DICE doesn't nerf it because it performs how well Bolts should perform

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/razephobos/video/75162923#t=25

Also watch this

@solid hinge

So much fun

[main grove]

Did you lot watch westie saying this gun shouldn’t be a 1 hit up to 100m

Like seriously

[stoic breach]

I did

[main grove]

It’s fucking 53cal

[stoic breach]

I can argue for a nerf down to 80m but thats it

It's .55

Well Westie does enjoy the gun and told people to use it as much as possible lol

I can respect that

Spread the word

[main grove]

After this week people will stop using it

And move back to their usuals

[stoic breach]

Yeah I reckon its seriously just new weapon hype

[solid hinge]

triple hipfire corner lean

[stoic breach]

That's how every weapon is

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

Hahaha yeah

Honestly I'm gonna keep using the Boys since my top weapon is the Kar98 anyways

As someone who thinks bolt actions suck

lul

[solid hinge]

now ive got 3 weapons to use as recon

sick

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[main grove]

I remember suggesting that AT rifles should knock you back on your ass when you fire just like a V1 rocket does

When you Hipfire it

[stoic breach]

Oh shit

That would be hilarious

[main grove]

Because it would in real life

The recoil is unbearable

[stoic breach]

The gun would also fall on you and probably crush your bones

[main grove]

Even bipoded it hurt the shit out of people’s shoulders

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[main grove]

Well not the boys but other at rifles with less forgiving stocks

[stoic breach]

Well the Boys as well but probably a bit less

[main grove]

Like the Tankgewehr and the PRTS

[stoic breach]

yeah

[main grove]

I’m still unsure if Recon should have got it and not assault

Recon getting kind of encourages you to snipe soldiers with it and not tanks

[stoic breach]

Well it should've been a recon gadget

[solid hinge]

giving assault the best bolt action

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

[solid hinge]

If it was a gadget it would be anti tank only

[stoic breach]

Well medic has the best traditional bolt action

[strong parrot]

if assault has it they cant abuse semis

[main grove]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

I'm glad its not a gadget

[stoic breach]

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/razephobos/video/75081114

@solid hinge

[main grove]

It’d be too good if it were a gadget

[stoic breach]

I don't wanna say I'm camping but I wasnt really moving anywhere in this clip

[main grove]

Imagine BF1’s AT gun sniping but worse

[stoic breach]

I'm also glad its not a gadget but I still think it should've been

hahaha

Man I loved that rocket gun

[dusky saffron]

BF1's AT gun was one of the greatest things in the series tbh

[solid hinge]

Those medics

[dusky saffron]

Didn't they make an AA version of it?

[main grove]

Yeah but it was really late

[dusky saffron]

Ah

[main grove]

I liked it

[dusky saffron]

I thought they did like some sort of damage separation

[solid hinge]

If the boys was a gadget it'd have different stats

[main grove]

Like 35 burst damage to a plane

[dusky saffron]

because AT gun was real lit

mhm

[main grove]

Hasn’t the boys got a lee Enfield speed bullet?

[stoic breach]

Yeah I got an 8 man streak in that clip

Waiting for more shit like that to come up cause it felt amazing

[dusky saffron]

I can't tell you

I haven't used it yet

[main grove]

500m/s or something

[dusky saffron]

Needs to be faster

[stoic breach]

The AA rocket gun was weird cause you could only use it laterally

[dusky saffron]

[main grove]

Which I think really needs to increase with the lee

All bolt actions need a velocity increase

[stoic breach]

Lee needs a buff for sure

Its the biggest piece of shit in the game

[dusky saffron]

I just use it with iron sights

and a bayonet

pretend like it's real ww2

[stoic breach]

I did as well

[dusky saffron]

[stoic breach]

Lee Enfield is only good with iron sights

[dusky saffron]

mhm

[stoic breach]

Ross should have straight pull on every scope

So I also only used that with irons

[main grove]

Lee needs 650m/s
Ross and G.95 750
Kar and Krag 870

[stoic breach]

Kar should have a higher velocity

900

[main grove]

But then Krag is kind of shafted

[stoic breach]

Krag has low drag doesnt it?

[main grove]

Krag has the worst damage

[solid hinge]

I think its slower than 500

The boys

Krag and Kar have 700

[main grove]

Only 700?

While most semi autos are faster than that?

[stoic breach]

Yeas

[solid hinge]

lee has 500, m95 and Ross 600, krag and kar 700

[stoic breach]

Like the MAS

[solid hinge]

the MAS with faster bullet spec has 920

so almost double the speed of the lee

[stoic breach]

Kar should basically be hitscan like the MAS is

[solid hinge]

[main grove]

Mp34 with faster velocity is higher than lee

[stoic breach]

The Lee just sucks so bad

[main grove]

An SMG shoots a faster bullet than a bolt action

[stoic breach]

Like STEN levels of shit

[strong parrot]

but sten is good

[stoic breach]

no it aint

[main grove]

STEN is alright

[solid hinge]

Iron sights Lee at close range is the most suited bolt for it

just.. may as well use the webley at that point

[stoic breach]

Honestly, the De Lisle is better than the Lee

Lee just has bayonet

And headshots

[main grove]

I can be really good with the Lee but I need a few games to adjust to the SMG tier bullet speed

[stoic breach]

Yeah you might as well use the Tromboncino at that point

[main grove]

It’s bullshit that a class with infinite heal has a better bolt action than most of recons bolt actions

[stoic breach]

yeah

[main grove]

I’m not saying nerf the tromoncino but make actual full length bolt actions good at their intended job

[stoic breach]

Thats why Bolt Actions should get buffed

Well the thing is that the Boys and Tromboncino dont need to be nerfed, the bolt actions need to be buffed

So yeah

Velocity buffs

Rechamber buffs

Straight pull for the Ross

900m/s velocity for the Kar98

shit like that

Sweet spots as well could work but the bolts could still be buffed without them

[solid hinge]

bolts having unrevivable headshots WHEN

[green elm]

please

[solid hinge]

it would reward hitting heads which is the entire point of them

[stoic breach]

That would be a nice buff as well

[green elm]

do headshots even blow off the helmets

[stoic breach]

yeah

they do

Did you know that if you get multiple headshots in a row your character starts vocally counting them

[faint wagon]

🙂

[stoic breach]

with bolt actions

its subtle but its there

and very cool

[rose pilot]

yeah headshots blow off helmets

they did the same in BF1 as well

[stoic breach]

very nice

[solid hinge]

Then when you revive them it teleports back

[rose pilot]

lmao yea

What plane should I use? both in dog fights and against infantry

i don't really like bombers

[stoic breach]

stuka

[icy sluice]

So in the future you will be able to prone to avoid S-Mines

[stoic breach]

Oh thats brilliant

Haha I'm watching GGG's Boys AT video and he got killed by someone I follow on twitter

well pretty sure

[icy sluice]

The thing about Battlefield 1 helmets came off is that not all helmets were the same and uhh... whenever a helmet popped off it was usually the incorrect helmet

[oblique lotus]

Damn I hate this weeks challenges, can't complete the first challenge 😂

[icy sluice]

Try Panzerstorm

They've got a fuckton of towables

[oblique lotus]

Wait, don't you have to do it in firestorm?

[solid hinge]

no

[oblique lotus]

omfg, I am so dumb...

thx you just saved mah PC 😂

[solid hinge]

set up a 6 pdr in the bushes at E, you can pretty much do the whole weeks tow in one round

[stoic breach]

Hahaha

[oblique lotus]

ah, now I know what to do after work, bush camp with a 6 pdr xD

[rugged cairn]

also, it doens't have to be a towed weap, a regular built stationary one will do too

also flak guns work well too

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge wait is the towable weapon challenge only in firestorm?

no, all mp modes

🤦

im not a girl btw it didnt show a male facepalm emoji

im so stupid

i thought it was firestorm only

lol its ok

also do u have the last tiger skin by any chance

yep i do

did you encounter any bugs

for unlocking it

nope, searched youtube for a walk through, followed it exactly, took a few hours

hm k

would you say the skin is worth it

best tank skin so yeah

[normal sky]

we

[solid hinge]

we

[icy sluice]

we

[solid hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

[normal sky]

we are battlefield 1

[rough river]

Wewewewewe

[wild oxide]

The Churchill VII with Howitzer and HESH Rounds is really something else

[solid hinge]

18-0?

bruhhhhhhhhhhhhh

back in bf1 i would go 50-0 with the chad st chamond

[crystal drift]

pics or it didnt happen

[solid hinge]

it happened so regularly

i never felt the need

[sour hornet]

St chamond was pretty op so it's not unbelievable

[graceful prairie]

what 2nd gadget do you guys use on support?

[wild oxide]

Depends on the map, but I usually go with AT Mines

[graceful prairie]

someone just said boys needs skill

i loled

he said "if you miss a shot youre dead"

technically that counts for every weapon

[gray glade]

if im attacking = AT rifle

defense = ap mines or AT mines

[glossy locust]

why is assault still so much better than every class in every situation

it's been 8 months

AT rifle is literally peanuts compared to every single game someone dominating the round playing an assault class

it ruins the experience

[random rock]

not for the 50% of assault players it doesn't.

I hate assault

[glossy locust]

people don't care they don't want varied gameplay they just want to win

at all costs

so if that means using a gun that makes killing people easier they will do it

i say gun

when it's literally like 8 guns on assault that are good at any range

[icy sluice]

Fire Rake

[glossy locust]

I dunno this game has teh best gunplay in the series but so many little things about it coupled with the Assault class dominance killing the balance

and I am close to shelving it even as a very dedicated bf player for years

[graceful prairie]

jeez i fucked my whole kd in one match

29-17

thats

below 2

[glossy locust]

i also wish i could just hide my stats from the tracker i am so tired about worrying about that shit

[graceful prairie]

mmg isnt that good in breakthrough

[glossy locust]

just play assault if you want good stats

[solid hinge]

I am livid lol, got the mg34 out and got 11 kills in the first two minutes taking two objectives, absolutely killing it, straight into first place in a game thats been going on ten minutes and I'm kicked

[glossy locust]

kicked why

game crash?

there is no "kicking"

[solid hinge]

no idea didn;t come up with an error message and I didn't lose connection

[glossy locust]

you can only be kicked for being idle really

otehrwise it would be a crash

[solid hinge]

gotta assume I've been kicked, and I've just realised there aren't rented servers in bf v

lol just another bug then

[glossy locust]

or cheating

[solid hinge]

still, I'm livid

[vestal locust]

52-12, mix of AT rifle and running my Ribby in Assault

[graceful prairie]

jeez i dont know if breakthrough players are better or if i dont play that mode enough i cant kill anything

well there are also just 70% sniper on the enemy team

its that fucking airfield map

[random rock]

enjoy

[solid hinge]

it's just aerodrome

it SUCKS

[graceful prairie]

26-15

killed 15 times by sniper

mmg is useless

[dusky saffron]

mmg is useless

🙃

[hazy wasp]

Aerodrome needs more fortifications on it honestly

[hollow wadi]

And some prebuilt ones too

[hazy wasp]

mhm

[solid hinge]

I'm stuck in a infinite revive

i can't die

[vestal locust]

Pop some stationary's up on the catwalks

[dusky saffron]

Ah

that happened to me once lmao

on fjell

[solid hinge]

i wonder if they can still see my revive symbol

[trim token]

Just got killed by a squad which had 36 kills in between them all in firestorm... ok?

[hazy wasp]

the last infinite revive glitch you could yeah

you were immortal until you burned to death or were stabbed

you had to quit out if you died though

[vestal locust]

So anyone see ya can mark a spot when down? Had a friend freak out with joy as he used some colorful language to tell me to get the enemy at said location.. lol

[solid hinge]

can enemies still see my body?

[graceful prairie]

yeah

i think you can be revived

at least it was like that before the patch

[solid hinge]

inmagine killing 12 people with 1 bullet from a sniper

[hazy wasp]

you'd get through like 6 before the bullet would slow enough

[vestal locust]

Done up to 3 so far... those poor fools all lined up on the ridge so perfectly

With AT rifle by chance

[hazy wasp]

did 4 with a .50 in BF4

ugh hungover reaction times are not good lol

[solid hinge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/bqi9fx/can_someone_tell_me_what_happened/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[summer geyser]

Does sniper glare only occur when you're ADS

[vestal locust]

yes

[solid hinge]

no it's 24/7

omnidirectional

even when you switch to another class, the glint will still stay

recon is a death sentence

[glossy locust]

recon is so disadvantaged versus every other specialization the people that use it are purposely torturing themselves

i'm one of them

[solid hinge]

Me too

[glossy locust]

mid range? the self loading rifles are pathetic every soldier runs like usain bolt you can get teh kill with two well placed shots though

but the fire rate is to slow to match with any of the assault DMRs

so hopefully they don't see you lol

long range most of your kills will be from killin other snipers but on maps like aerodrome you can do work

[graceful prairie]

mmg is torture

[slate carbon]

the salb is good wym

[glossy locust]

the mmg without the scope is bad, but the rest are good

[slate carbon]

i also use the mg40 with iron sights wym

[glossy locust]

support on a bipod can also outsnipe a sniper long range

it's crazy really

[graceful prairie]

what mmg has a scope?

[slate carbon]

no it cant

maybe suppress it but if youre telling me you get "outsniped" by a guy with an mg youre just bad

[glossy locust]

typically before i can even ads i am dead if a prone Mmg spots me

[hazy wasp]

lol the boys rifle is kinda bs vs people

[slate carbon]

oh for sure

[glossy locust]

it's all the same good player or bad player assault dominates every facet of this game and to not main assault

you are handicapping yoruself

i would say medic is second best

support has some good guns but their reliance on prone is their issue

[icy sluice]

Pro-Tip, if you want to go around an S-Mine, just crouch walk

[graceful prairie]

i love mmg

[icy sluice]

I tried to defuse an AP-Mine but it didn't give me the option
https://streamable.com/dxmki

[midnight nimbus]

S mines are speed activated @icy sluice

move slow and they don't detonate

but yeah defusal is janky

[strong parrot]

lmao double headshot colat with the boys

[tacit kelp]

Balance according to Dice

https://i.imgur.com/mxgQYW1.png

Twisted Steel-450-0

Arras i killed 2 planes 2 tanks caried this shit team and noob steal my tank\

[graceful prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAaK4wdg9UU

this is still happening

didnt they fix bipods?

[glacial coral]

tripods

/rank

!rank

[cedar cove]

So how about that rifle vs a plane??

Its gotta do some damage no?

[tacit kelp]

maybe 8

[cedar cove]

Bah

Should be significant vs aircraft

[tacit kelp]

@cedar cove jackfrags last video

middle

[solid hinge]

Lmao as if the mg42 needs a guide

Literally hipfires for 4 kills
"Alright guys heres my guide"

[icy sluice]

Yeah, it totally does
https://streamable.com/aggr5 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solid hinge]

Dice really likes balance.

Must be a high priority

[hearty whale]

How this guy is called ?

[icy sluice]

You totally need a guide for the MG42
https://streamable.com/tdi7y

[solid hinge]

Lmaooo

[strong parrot]

pathetic ass team on hamada what else is knew

[icy sluice]

Ass team?

[strong parrot]

could only keep 3 flags for most of the match

yup shit tier team

squad leader wastes the points on a fucking rocket gets 0 kills lmao

i knew that would happen

[solid hinge]

Love when that happens

Save up the whole match to waste it

[strong parrot]

"you going to use the points?" i say twice...rounds already lost by the time he gets a rocket...

"yeah im saving for a rocket later in the game"

[solid hinge]

Artillery is better in every way

[strong parrot]

yuuup

inb4 a rocket can clear out a whole point in breakthrough!!!

[solid hinge]

I dont play breakthrough

[strong parrot]

and even then you can call in 2.5 arty strikes roughly for 1 rocket..

so instead of waiting for the rocket points even if you have your amazing A squad...just bomb the fuck out of them with arty from all the squads lol

[solid hinge]

And it makes them scramble so you get a good like 5 kills minimum out of it

[strong parrot]

its amazingly annoying on a small map, in breakthrough since youre focused on a portion of a map, to have arty all around you

[solid hinge]

Yeah

Smoke seems like itd be really effective on breakthrough

What is up with the buddy spawns in this game middle of killing a guy and a dude with a KE7 spawns on him and kills me

Camt be worse than spawning on a buddy and getting insta smacked by someome who was chasing him

i did the first node!

Why are like 70% of support players brain dead? I saw 2 laying on their backs, killed one and the other died to his own AP mine

bayonet enemy
his teammate spawns mid animation

[strong parrot]

if you shot him he would have been in combat

[solid hinge]

tfw about to be shanked doesnt count as in combat

[strong parrot]

you kill them at the end of the animation

[solid hinge]

The teammate in combat thing is broken btw I’m sure

Pretty sure shooting a guy a couple times with a revolver is him in combat but can still have a human meat shield spawn on him

Ive started to see alot of complaints about the soldier lighting on Reddit

[graceful prairie]

the vgo feels so bad

idk what it is

[solid hinge]

Feels good man

Maybe we’ll get it toned down a little

[tribal ledge]

Friend of mine asked what happens if you don't do the challenges to unlock the weapons

I had no answer to him

Like can the weapon be unlocked after the challenge ends?

[solid hinge]

Theyll go to the company menu and you can buy it with CC

[tribal ledge]

Ah. Know for how much?

[solid hinge]

2500 I think

[tribal ledge]

👌

[solid hinge]

People complaining about the new lighting are probably the people that camp and caused the lightning implementation in the first place

[cobalt valley]

I'm still getting ignored in broad daylight...

like, I was prone near the south edge of capture area on Panzerstorm E flag

I was not even hiding, I was on the inside part of it, no one even cared

[foggy condor]

Is there a way to bind the mouse scroll wheel to only switching weapons in BF4 PC?

[hazy wasp]

you can still hide even with the new lighting honestly

all it does is make the character models more readable

you just need to be smarter where you hunker down

[solid hinge]

No the lighting helps it was such a saving grace to people that dont sit in one spot the whole game

I had a chance against people playing dead on devastation.

Such a cheesy way to play

Like you can walk on the ground too

Run even

Lighting sucks atm

Its helped me plenty

Well yeah it helps people who have difficulties

If you make players literally glow to eliminate all environmental factors yeah ofc its going to help

Better than shooting in the dark

In the update pic on devastation i didnt even know there was a guy in the background until the after picture

Thats how bad it was

It was fine chief

Its just bare trash now

Literally glowing white soldiers even in sunlight

You must like playing dead lol

Im not an mg camper

And those campers were never even an issue to me

i can accept not noticing someone and getting killed; i cant accept knowing someone is there but literally not being able to see them

Easy kills if you know what to look for

@solid hingees

Yes

half the reason i run recon all the time is so i can get those lovely doritos

By that definition snipers should get taken out of the game

Because you can get shot from beyond your fov and not see them

No just dont let players be chameleons lmao

[hazy wasp]

thats a farcical leap there man lol

[solid hinge]

No because I don't know the snipers are there

[hazy wasp]

thats the point of being a sniper

[solid hinge]

I've known people are in a corner im looking at but i literally cannot identify the character model

How do you know theres someone there then say an mg camper

[hazy wasp]

Hiding ina bush vs just sitting in an open thing of gravel is very different

[solid hinge]

And either way, I dont mind having the lighting in dark areas like rotterdam

But it shouldnt be such a huge help in sunlit areas and shadowy fields

I dont like glowing through a bush

I never notice the lighting in loght areas tbh

[scenic beacon]

Eh, i don't know where ANYONE is in this game, but at least my mg42 just gives them doritos when I miss. Just spray 250 bullets and eventually you'll find someone

[hazy wasp]

the surpression mechanic for the MG's is clever honestly

there is a 'cost' of sorts to spotting with them

[scenic beacon]

Yeah, it gives support another use than just ammo

[solid hinge]

Eh not really

As soon as you start suppressing you become a target to every single sniper on the enemy team

[scenic beacon]

Its stupidly good on mmgs, but at the cost of snipers knowing where you are

exactly lmao

[solid hinge]

Hense everyone corner camped with mgs

Because snipers just make mgs useless

[scenic beacon]

back before they fixed bipod accuracy stacking with prone accuracy, the mg42 would outsnipe snipers

[hazy wasp]

dying is justa part of the game, if you get 2 or 3 kills and surpress a load of people before dying then you have done your part

[scenic beacon]

that was a loooong time back though

[graceful prairie]

wish the bipod would work

[solid hinge]

dying is just a part of the game

mmgs were ridiculous back then

[scenic beacon]

yeah, the mg42 was LASER accurate

[hazy wasp]

you respawn or can get revived

[solid hinge]

I 100% agree with that statement ardaam

[scenic beacon]

and the 34 is still a joke lmao

[solid hinge]

Thats why I never blamed the game when I got killed by an mg camper for examplr

It was just me not being aware and taking the risk of getting mowed down

[patent kiln]

well people whocry about mg camper are playing the wrong game

[graceful prairie]

is mg34 bad?

[solid hinge]

No

[hazy wasp]

I know you are going to use that as an argument against the lighting fix, but the visibility issues are almost universally accepted as an issue for character models in game

[scenic beacon]

Its not bad, just almost everything outclasses it

[solid hinge]

No they arent

[hazy wasp]

MG34 is better at range than the 42

[solid hinge]

mg34 wins on accuracy

[scenic beacon]

The 1922 is a DIRECT upgrade to it

its DIRTY

[solid hinge]

Many people have been coming out on reddit that they dont like the lighting change

[hazy wasp]

1922 falls soemwhere in between

[solid hinge]

My dick can obliterate every single weapon of yours

So it is not universally accepted

smaller fire rate and mag size though

[hazy wasp]

eh reddit lol

[solid hinge]

Its just a vocal minorty impacting the game and now people are coming to say that wtf happened

@solid hinge that's an appropriate nickname for your liberator

[scenic beacon]

[solid hinge]

Reddit complains about literally everything

and you cant use the “oh its just reddit trolls” argument because its literally because of those people the lighting changed

[hazy wasp]

yep

[solid hinge]

there'll be posts for and against every change

[hazy wasp]

nah i'd say they'll put their foot down on this one

[solid hinge]

They better not

Because they made the game worse for alot of people

They have to find a middle ground

[hazy wasp]

man the visibility is just in line with BF4 lol

[solid hinge]

Yeah and it was stupid there too

I was over the fucking moon when they changed it for this game

[solemn wedge]

@solid hinge Don't try to bypass the filter.

[scenic beacon]

F

[solid hinge]

@solemn wedge don't try to bypass humor

[scenic beacon]

ah shit, here we go again

[hazy wasp]

interesting play here cotton

[solid hinge]

Just took out a Panzer IV and and a Tiger right after with the archer wtf

[hazy wasp]

noice

[pearl arch]

Does anybody else thing BF3 is incredible? I mean the graphics, the sound the little details such as all of the weapon trails and smoke effects.. it's just such an epic experience.

[scenic beacon]

Archer is an AMAZING tank hunter

[hazy wasp]

Archer is basically a tank sniping platform

hide in the bushes

strike from where they least expect

[scenic beacon]

also helps that everything ricochets off it

[solid hinge]

What’s the best archer stuff?

[hazy wasp]

that actually would be a cool specialization for the archer, deployable camo

[solid hinge]

imo RMLM

I think kht uses RMRM

[gray glade]

who is kht?

[scenic beacon]

The stat guy

[solid hinge]

The man with the numbers

[gray glade]

i see

[solid hinge]

Tank lover

Plane camper🔨

Is the front of the valentine weaker than the back?

Does anyone even use the strumtiger?

Seeming as it’s pretty much a valentine going backwards

I don’t use sturmtiger but I’ve seen lots of people use it

[midnight nimbus]

RMRM >>>

[scenic beacon]

I don't know, for whatever reason, whenever i try and shoot its "front", everything ricochets

[midnight nimbus]

RMLM is fine

as long as you have RM in the beginning and M at the end

[gray glade]

ah, there he is

[solid hinge]

Fast response times

[gray glade]

@solid hinge i see it occasionally, and use it when i get the chance myself

[solid hinge]

I never expected an Archer to beat a tiger but guess I underestimated it

[gray glade]

i find sturmtiger is a better choice than doing a single airstrike or v1

[solid hinge]

The archer has reversed armour cause it drives backwards, but it bounces a lot of hits because of the sloping and it has so much damage it can still brawl it out with anything other than heavy tanks

[scenic beacon]

NEVER underestimate an archer @solid hinge , its a speedy AF tank sniper

[solid hinge]

if you take the engine upgrade I think it's the fastest medium tank as well

[scenic beacon]

such a high ROF on it too for what it is

[solid hinge]

Which is... Very Nice

What’s the best German tank? I do fairly well with the Panzer 38

Probably the pz4

[scenic beacon]

I usually go for the big barrel Panzer 4

thicc

Its side skirt perks are great

[solid hinge]

Medium tanks dont have the weak armour of the light tanks and they generally have enough firepower to compete with heavy tanks

combined with higher fire rates and more ammo

Staghound any good?

Its.. the light vehicles used to be the best by miles, but they're very fragile and can barely damage other tanks now

[scenic beacon]

Speedy, but rn that's all there is to it

[solid hinge]

But why uae the strumtiger?

They do have some serious speed

Like whenever I'm in it I always get blown up immediately

Sturmtiger looks badass but I’ve seen them get blown up in seconds

[scenic beacon]

That's bc its dummy thicc, it becomes an assault magnet

[solid hinge]

They're very large targets, but they also have ridiculous firepower

[glossy locust]

sturmtiger needs mroe splash on it's cannon and it could be ok

[solid hinge]

Tanks out range me and infantry can scurry around me easily

[glossy locust]

actually add splash to all cannons

[solid hinge]

and a sick grenade turret on the top

[glossy locust]

it's crazy you need to have a direct hit to kill

[solid hinge]

And shit range

[scenic beacon]

i miss my case rounds valentine AA

[solid hinge]

Giant chode shells outta that thing

[glossy locust]

why is splash so reduced in BFV

[solid hinge]

personally I have little luck with the sturmtiger on any map other than devastation

Cause people got mad about it in bf1

O yea

It's the heal instantly thing too

What do you guys use on the Panzer 4

Wish i could get it on twisted steel on the bridge

[glossy locust]

people basically get mad when killed by a vehicle period

[scenic beacon]

@solid hinge Bigger barrel, sideskirt atmot

[solid hinge]

If a shell does 60 damage to you and you heal 25 before it hits you again, you survive the second shot

It would be a monster

[scenic beacon]

idk what else i put on it

[midnight nimbus]

Pz4 is so versatile

RRRM i think just slays infantry

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge if im focusing on infantry then I think mostly right side (cant remember the specs)

yeah what kht said

[midnight nimbus]

but LLLL is versatile and can deal with infy and armor

[solid hinge]

stubby barrel pz4 has mad splash

[glossy locust]

bf1 tanks were not OP at all besides the anti air one that people just sat on a hill

[midnight nimbus]

yeah RRRM Pz4 for Rotterdam

[solid hinge]

you get dunked on by other tanks though

[midnight nimbus]

LLLL for Panzerstorm

[solid hinge]

@glossy locust and mortar truck

So much knowledge

Sit in backline and just get 80-0

[midnight nimbus]

staghound is actually good for being an anti air tank

[solid hinge]

Hate those guys so much

[scenic beacon]

Big barrel and armored pz4 is a great tank brawler, speedy enough to flank, and thicc enough to take a few hits

[glossy locust]

people never change though. On aerodrome literally every SINGLE round there is a tank camping on the hill. It doesn't matter who is playing, there is always a tank on the hill camping

[midnight nimbus]

unironically better than actual anti air tanks

[solid hinge]

poor AA

[glossy locust]

why DICE hasn't implemented like a straight up timer

[scenic beacon]

sad nerfed case round noises

[solid hinge]

Ap or case

[glossy locust]

if you're still in the uncap after X seconds you instantly die

[solid hinge]

I want to take down a paratrooper plane with like 15 people in it but AA guns to low of damage

#buffAA

Make them do like 20 damage per round

[glossy locust]

i think it's crazy how much damage the bombers can take i can hit it like 40 times in a pass and it still chugs along

[solid hinge]

the paratrooper planes are odd

I remember getting shot at by a flak Panzer on Aero and my screen just went black for like 3 minutes from all the explosions

I still think theres hitreg issues with the AA

Sometimes I deal mad damage in one burst, sometimes i deal under 15

[scenic beacon]

@solid hinge You mean the smoke panzer lmao

jesus, that thing is just a fuck you to visibility

[solid hinge]

I was terrified haha

[scenic beacon]

it can't do shit against tanks, but it can blind them to hell

and piss them off

Its REALLY good at pissing people off

[solid hinge]

I like this

[royal gull]

Just hit level 19 and I can't believe how good this game is

[solid hinge]

Is the Stug good?

AP mine specialization on tanks is good

[midnight nimbus]

Flakpanzer might be the worst tank in the game

StuG as the second worst

[scenic beacon]

@solid hinge lack of a driver mg makes it less than ideal

[solid hinge]

Really punishes infantry who think were idiots and cant look

[midnight nimbus]

StuG is literally a bad Pz4

[royal gull]

Honestly, after BF4 failed to live up to BF3 and after BF1 was this disjointed mess I did not expect anything from BFV.

[scenic beacon]

only thing it has going for it is its small size

[midnight nimbus]

it's a Pz4 that doesn't have a turret lol

[solid hinge]

and no coaxial machine gun

I cant believe it's so much shitter than the archer

[scenic beacon]

its just a tiny memebox carrier that can't do shit

doesn't have any firepower to it

[solid hinge]

Thanks for the tips people now hopefully my tanks should last longer

Number 1 rule is to run away from archers always

[midnight nimbus]

Archer: literally best anti armor tank in the game
StuG: lol am i a joke

[solid hinge]

stug buff when

[midnight nimbus]

just remove it

[solid hinge]

I haven’t seen a Stug get used in so long

[midnight nimbus]

like who designed BFV vehicles

[scenic beacon]

@solid hinge for good reason

[midnight nimbus]

is this game just a joke to them

[solid hinge]

I wonder if the Sherman would be a good tank

[royal gull]

Honestly I think there are too many anti-tank options

[midnight nimbus]

flip a coin

[royal gull]

Every class has anti-tank gadgets, right?

[solid hinge]

No

[midnight nimbus]

actually no there's not close to enough anti tank options

[scenic beacon]

Except for medic

[solid hinge]

It's that there's too few options

[midnight nimbus]

only two classes have realistic anti tank options

[scenic beacon]

medic only has those piddly trombone grenades

[midnight nimbus]

Boys is still kinda memey against competent tankers

[solid hinge]

Because piat is the best every time you get anywhere near any infantry you get piated 5 times

[scenic beacon]

boys at can only realistically disable turrets before they're found and shot

[solid hinge]

I’m hoping they add a Panzershrek

[royal gull]

Like why does both the Assault and Support class get AT Mines?

[solid hinge]

cause they ran out of gadgets

[midnight nimbus]

too bad the panzerschrek isn't good

stats are meh

[royal gull]

Why does the Assault and Support both have AT launchers?

[midnight nimbus]

Fliegerfaust is actually exciting af

[solid hinge]

dreams crushed

[midnight nimbus]

support AT pistol is a joke

[solid hinge]

Add shrek

[royal gull]

It really does feel like they ran out of gadgets

[solid hinge]

Just have him as a tank

[midnight nimbus]

Fliegerfaust looks like a legitimately excellent anti everything launcher

[scenic beacon]

I mean they gave us the piat, real mortar when?

[royal gull]

Support should have like a breaching charge or something

[solid hinge]

@scenic beacon no

[scenic beacon]

yes

[midnight nimbus]

mortar yes pls

dislodge all the campers

[solid hinge]

On the face of your father you will not speak of that word

[scenic beacon]

I want something to counter campers

[cobalt valley]

yeah, the support AT launcher is more for infantry and taking out fortifications

[solid hinge]

I'm fine with campers if we get no mortars

[scenic beacon]

Maybe just give us a HE one that punishes guessing shots

[royal gull]

Oh yeah, an actual mortar

[scenic beacon]

make it based around precision

but i WANT

[solid hinge]

@scenic beacon I'll take that

[royal gull]

Like the BF4 support had, iirc?

[midnight nimbus]

just make the mortar based on the BF1 infiltrator flare

first round is illumination round, giving campers fair warning to gtfo

[scenic beacon]

with this game's open design, practically everything is open, a mortar would be nice

[solid hinge]

I wonder if they’ll make the PTRS 41 mount only

How is the pacific theater maps gonna work actually?

[royal gull]

Smoke rounds

[scenic beacon]

i just want a way to dislodge that one fucker at the back of the map

[royal gull]

Hopefully well

[solid hinge]

Like those islands we're full of trees or hills

How it dat gonna work?

Also

I swear

If i get no iwo jima

[scenic beacon]

@solid hinge they'll do it like the boys, or add in the PTRD with higher damage as its a single shot

[solid hinge]

Or D-Day

All I want is a Mosin

This games gonna be unplayable

[royal gull]

Hopefully they add the M7 Grenade Launcher

[solid hinge]

Altough D-Day I understand

[royal gull]

Why would it being full of trees and hills make the game unplayable?

[solid hinge]

No

Well

Mabye

Might be like the mid way in the battles time so its already been like napamled and stuff

[royal gull]

Remake Wake Island, Guadalcanal, and Iwo Jima from the old games

Guadalcanal a big tank map

[solid hinge]

The Welrod pistol would be fun

[gray glade]

pls give some new maps instead

[royal gull]

Wake Island mixed warfare

Iwo Jima mainly infantry

Fuck new maps

[scenic beacon]

The welrod is gonna be real cool to use, just a real short range commando carbine

[solid hinge]

Wait was mercury released yet?

[royal gull]

Not having a remake of Wake Island is going to piss off a lot of long time fans

[scenic beacon]

@solid hinge not out yet, its coming for next week in TOW

[solid hinge]

Sweet

Wait in TOW?

Like its the reward?

[scenic beacon]

Nah, I mean the challenges are based around that map

not as a reward lmao

[solid hinge]

O

[scenic beacon]

only the worthy can play on mercury

[analog portal]

I have... low expectations for Mercury.

[cobalt valley]

unpopular opinion:
please no DDay map

it would go exactly like Hamada CA

[solid hinge]

at least dday wont be as butt fuck ugly as hamada

[scenic beacon]

amen

[solid hinge]

how fucking bad can a map be

[analog portal]

Yeah, but

[solid hinge]

ugly as SHIT and plays even worse

[analog portal]

What beach will it be on?

[gray glade]

what about sicily?

[cobalt valley]

CA and Fortress is exactly the game mode for a DDay themed map

[midnight nimbus]

D-Day would be irredeemably unfun

[scenic beacon]

I'm hoping for juno, or at least something Canadian in this game

maybe even dieppe as an op, idk

[analog portal]

Day 1 pushing beach

Day 2 pushing arty guns

Day 3 defending the beach.

[scenic beacon]

dunkirk would also be a cool op

two days of defense, last day evacuating

[analog portal]

I dare say, i still love the old CoD2 Point Du Hoc mission.

[solid hinge]

cod ww2 dday

[scenic beacon]

ew

[solid hinge]

i swear it brings a tear to my eye every time

imagine 6v6 dday with braindead ai

and 700 rpm mg42s

and 1000 rpm mp28s

oh man

[dusky badge]

Won another firestorm game, woot

Flare gun game in clutch

[solid hinge]

so funny

[scenic beacon]

imagine d-day, but with crusaders and the grim reaper

[gray glade]

atom plz stop

[scenic beacon]

cod ww2 in a nutshell

[gray glade]

you're gonna make me hurl

😄

[analog portal]

It's gonna happen. I mean

[solid hinge]

did you know

cod ww2 has dogfighting?

i swear im not making this up

[analog portal]

Look at ol' Wilhelm.

[scenic beacon]

that mode was a joke

it played so shitty on console

[solid hinge]

still not as bad as bfv dogfighting

ju88s outturning spitfires

and mosquitos floating in the air

[analog portal]

Gold Beach would make more sense for the dday map, if we ever get it.

[scenic beacon]

I'd honestly say Juno, the germans sent their tanks there to push us off the beach

[analog portal]

That would also be plausible.

[scenic beacon]

that would be an interesting dynamic, day one take the beach, next day (or later on), hold off the tanks and reinforcements, next day, push some town

[solid hinge]

contacting ea help for the 2nd time today

[scenic beacon]

now THAT would be a change