battlefield-legacy-titles

[vapid crater]

Lvl

Too much work

and i like only like

3 of the guns

[solid hinge]

ya my favorite recon gun is the gewehr

[vapid crater]

im trying to get kar

[hidden oracle]

I prefer the self loading rifles like the mas44 or the m1 carbine

[vapid crater]

i like the mg4

[hoary condor]

MP40

x1.5 😃

[solid hinge]

the bolts in this are definitely the weakest class of weapon

you can still do good with them but like.. good luck

[hoary condor]

Gewehr m95 works fine

[solid hinge]

That's what they all say

[red vessel]

I'm really struggling getting recon to level 20

Not a recon guy

Even though the word "Recon" is in my gamertag 😛

[solid hinge]

Easiest recon weapon to use is probably the p08 carbine

or the zh

[red vessel]

What scope on the P08?

[solid hinge]

2x

[red vessel]

I'll check it out 😃

[solid hinge]

It's the only recon weapon with a bunch of ammo

Plays like a higher ammo Turner with less range but better hipfire

who needs hipfire for a recon

It's a 3 shot kill under 10 metres and a 4 shot kill under 30 metres (I think)

Hipfire is useful on a pistol carbine with 33 bullets

heh heh

no i dont use that i use bolt action in my opinion its better

[hoary condor]

i get headshots pretty much every kill with it

[solid hinge]

You might do better with the bolts but I dont think a lot of people are gonna agree they're better weapons

Even if you pop a headshot every single shot you've still got significantly slower kill times than other weapons after the first shot

in bf1 thats all i used so i get comfortable, and i like how they look too

they're fun and they have bayonets though

so what more do you really need

ya thats cool but i dont use the bayonets

they are hard to get kills with

[gray glade]

an advantage with bolt actions is that headshotting/1 shot killing them stops ppl from taking cover after they start taking damage

[solid hinge]

The kill times on most of the semi autos are so low that you dont have time to react

g43 kills in two hits if ones a headshot

this one time, me and another sniper from long ranged, we both killed each other same time

it was funny at the time

even a 3 shot kill with 300rpm is very fast

while the bolt kill times on two body shots are Slow

they're even slower than their stats say because you have to deal with scoping and unscoping

the're still good tho ok

[gray glade]

at those longer ranges ppl dont hit all the shots tho

with bolt actions it only takes 1

[solid hinge]

well i usually dont go very far away i get involved but keep my distance i dont camp

At longer ranges you're less likely to hit someone with a bolt than a semi unless they arent moving, and if they arent moving you have time to semi them to death

the semis have faster bullets than the bolts do

[gray glade]

meh, i feel i hit ppl just as easy with bolts

[solid hinge]

i just have troubles with bullet drop

the Lee has 500m/s bullet velocity and the Mas with upgraded velocity has 920m/s

i use the gewehr

so it can be pretty considerable

[hoary condor]

[gray glade]

i wish symthic had bfv stats

for easy comparison of guns

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge how the hell do you know so much?!

Gewehr is probably best all round sniper

ya it is

[gray glade]

which bolt action has the highest speed?

[solid hinge]

big body shot damage, decent fire rate and 600m/s velocity

krag and kar have 700m/s velocity

Ross has 600 as well

[gray glade]

ah, that might be why i feel i hit easier with kar than the others

just unlocked it tho

[solid hinge]

I suck with the slower bullet ones

Miss far too often

[gray glade]

i started playing games in the old days, so leading shots is 2nd nature

you get used to when you have 56k modem 😄

but honestly, you have a point about semis

i feel the m42 does almost as good a job as bolt actions

[solid hinge]

The ping

is the liberator special or anything cuz it kinda sucks

[idle breach]

krag maybe

[solid hinge]

Bolts do have the highest burst damage with a headshot, but that's like.. their only good trait

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge best pistol

[sweet fulcrum]

i agree

[solid hinge]

nah its not i tried it out \

[rough river]

@solid hinge lol just git gud

[sweet fulcrum]

no, it's the best pistol avaible rn

[rough river]

Im getting killstreaks with it

[solid hinge]

what did it do!

[rough river]

Literally

[icy sluice]

🦀 Gonna make crab meme when I get home 🦀

[solid hinge]

The ZH is a two shot kill to the body at any range and it has a far higher rof than the bolts

[idle breach]

yeah.. being able to do instakill with headshot is nice, but overall bolt action rifles are pretty dumb

[solid hinge]

how its like a one bullet gun reload everytime

and the semis get higher as well

[idle breach]

I didn't liked bolt action for my primary weapon

[icy sluice]

@solid hinge it's fucking op what you mean?

[rough river]

@solid hinge exactly, and you didnt get the sarcasm

[idle breach]

I have over 300 comfirmed kills you can believe my words

[rough river]

Bruh

[solid hinge]

Ag42 is a two shot headshot at any range and has 450 rpm

oh ok

[idle breach]

yeah ag m/42 is nice

[solid hinge]

like at that point that's basically instant

vollidoit

qifsha nonen

english please

ok

[crisp stone]

just had the best squad conquest game 154 tickets left

and i got the enemy teams tank

[solid hinge]

xD

[crisp stone]

i though going down with your tank instead of bailing was basics but ok

[solid hinge]

?

[hoary condor]

That's usually a navy thing? Captain goes down with his ship?

[summer geyser]

ye

if the tank starts smoking I'm dipping

[gray glade]

lol

[summer geyser]

IDC what anyone tells me

[gray glade]

why do you care so much about dying a single time

[solid hinge]

i dont usually drive vehicles

[gray glade]

that you are willing to let your team lose

[summer geyser]

cuz if everyone dies we won't have a way to spawn back to our original position

chances are we'll all spawn a mile away back at some check point

[hoary condor]

tank drops to 30% i'm hopping out and running

[hollow wadi]

^

[gray glade]

what is going on in this channel

[summer geyser]

I'd rather dip and wait for my mates to spawn back (after foolishly realizing they died for no reason)

[solid hinge]

😐

[summer geyser]

[gray glade]

all these ppl who cant tank

[crisp stone]

as soon as you hop out run lmao

[solid hinge]

After reading this i wanna die

[gray glade]

suddenly this discord is full of em

😄

[crisp stone]

i pop ur head off then repair your tank

[hoary condor]

I can tank, until i get hit too much and bail

[solid hinge]

bails on tank
gives enemy team tank
"if we all die we cant respawn"

xD

[hollow wadi]

[summer geyser]

Some things are worth sacrificing

[solid hinge]

No

[stoic breach]

Jolly cooperation

[solid hinge]

a small price to pay for salvation

If you bail out,destroy the tank

every single game I've ever been in of frontlines where the one team stole a tank, they won

With the at mine

[stoic breach]

Someone jumped out of their tank and boobytrapped it with an AT mine

I jumped in and hit the mine

Tank survived

[summer geyser]

I never hijacked an enemy tank

[solid hinge]

Thats not worth it

[summer geyser]

I was always afraid an infantry was waiting for me to hop in

and then kill me

[solid hinge]

Hes risking a tank for a single kill

[hoary condor]

technically it's jacked.. hijack would mean in the air

what tank do you drive?

[solid hinge]

All of them

[crisp stone]

the sad thing was there was a resupply station like 200 metres away

[hoary condor]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-tank-gif-13395956

[solid hinge]

it's always worth going for an enemy tank if its empty

[hoary condor]

dis you?

[solid hinge]

^^^^^^

worst case scenario you die

Thank you ayla

best case scenario you get an extra tank and deny the enemy one

[summer geyser]

dying is terrible

[hollow wadi]

I mean the other team is never smart enough to hijack a tank and consider a standing tank free points

[solid hinge]

No

on frontlines you can literally have two tanks and they have 0

I mean yes

that's a free win

Then dont die

Its that simple

does the ammo box give ammo for special weapons too like the flair

Ye

Gives 1

still good

Yes

[crisp stone]

coin flip but the enemy side of the coin is coated with heavy lead
the enemy has your tank, your team is camping with recon while the enemy is capping the frontline objective

🔫

camping on frontlines what are you doing kid

[hollow wadi]

[solid hinge]

i like the name

@hollow wadi

[hollow wadi]

👌

[random ice]

What time are the update notes going to be out?

[crisp stone]

meh its just a tides of war update

boyes rifle

[hoary condor]

what is this weeks ToW? haven't had time to look

[hollow wadi]

Boys AT rifle

For recon

[crisp stone]

literally just gonna be bf1 k bullets

[hoary condor]

new toy to play with

[crisp stone]

not worth talking about

[hoary condor]

:recon

[stoic breach]

Who up for literally just trolling people at range with the Boys AT

[hollow wadi]

Count me in

[stoic breach]

😩

[solid hinge]

a ranged option to annoy tanks is valuable

even more valuable will be the camping recons with even slower weapons

[hollow wadi]

^

[crisp stone]

make the useless players slightly less useless

[hollow wadi]

Next thing you know there's a new breed of tankers the sniper tankers cuz of the boys AT rifle

[random ice]

Would love to crack a cold one with the boys at rifle

[solid hinge]

is it out yet?

[crisp stone]

NO

[hollow wadi]

^

[solid hinge]

So aggressive

OK

[ancient ocean]

Comes out tomorrow right?

[solid hinge]

At least we have an option to annoy camping archers now

[hoary condor]

True

[hollow wadi]

Yep

[solid hinge]

Not a lot you could do before to a tank beyond 100 metres

[crisp stone]

the aa tank dickhead on aerodrome

[ancient ocean]

8 more days

Until the 30th

[hollow wadi]

Me want mercury now

[gray glade]

what happens on the 30th

[solid hinge]

Mercury tastes pretty good

[ancient ocean]

New map

[gray glade]

oh

[ancient ocean]

And I think a cool game mode

[solid hinge]

Lmao is the new map already in the game?

[hoary condor]

Not yet

[solid hinge]

Cuz its listed in the server browser as templatenewlevel

[rose pilot]

Yeah been like that for a few weeks now.

[coral fiber]

[rose pilot]

@solid hinge what do you recommend for the M1922? https://i.imgur.com/MpQFXxj.png

[coral fiber]

owo

[hoary condor]

faster ads?

[coral fiber]

If you like shredding people and planes go for the left

[crisp stone]

less recoil then full right tree

[rose pilot]

Cba with planes

[coral fiber]

The right if you want longer lasting shooting

If i were you I'd go for full right

[gray glade]

what about the alt right

[coral fiber]

But that's your choice to make

I've done full right for my mg42 and i love it so much

[solid hinge]

m1922 go for the extended belt but barrel embed so L-R-R-R

[coral fiber]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

then you can actually use it for hip firing real close

[coral fiber]

I don't even have to worry about my hipfire with the mg42

I'll still hit em either way cuz of the fire rate lol

[hoary condor]

hipfire mg42 is awful

[soft storm]

Yeah nah, I’m gonna level up the Boys and probably never use it again, nobody ever expects a close range Recon with wallhack flares

[coral fiber]

Oof

Imagine you're desperately trying to repair your tank after a fight but you see a squad of recons that have the boys AT equipped with them

[hoary condor]

Laughs in Scout

[soft storm]

A single squad of just recons with the boys and maybe a support

That would be hell

Their sole mission is to make one tank on the other team have a bad time

[solid hinge]

@rose pilot first left and last right, but the middle two are dependant on how you want to roll with it

the right side is super accurate with a huge mag and the left side is like a slightly slower mg42 with less bullets that's more accurate

[hoary condor]

i'm inlove with medic class atm

Fortress really brings it out

[rose pilot]

Will do that thanks 😄

also the dynamites are

pretty good for Hamada on fortress if you're attacking

camp next to the resupply station near A and dynamite everyone inside the flag lol

[icy sluice]

Only a 6 killstreak in Fortress? Weaksauce

[rose pilot]

the match just started

[icy sluice]

And you're down

[rose pilot]

bc i'm using the Mas

havent used it much

[icy sluice]

:doglaugh: bye

[brisk field]

i just got the biggest damn clutch

we had 0 respawn points

we almost capped the last objective

like it was 80% capped

but then they got it back

[marble crystal]

On what time do they release the patchnotes today?

[cedar cove]

Patch is tomorrow no?

Delayed

[solid hinge]

Does anyone here still miss the old beta attrition?

DICE changed it for some reason and I have no idea why

it worked

[soft storm]

Because attrition itself is a shitty system

That limits good players for doing good

[solid hinge]

I mean

it can be better but you shouldn't really have a problem with having to sometimes resupply at ammo points

[soft storm]

I’d have little to no issues with it if I didn’t have to ressuply my gadget ammo every time I respawn

[solid hinge]

the earlier games like BF4 and BF1 had too much ammo

I like that idea actually

[hoary condor]

holds enough ammo 1 person could carry

[solid hinge]

It's not about realism, see

it's about game design

Can't have a game where you never really resupply - and in older games like BF1 you didn't really need to resupply your primary weapons because the average lifespan of a player exceeded the need for a large amount of ammo

But the limited ammo makes it so that every shot counts

See games like Insurgency Sandstorm do this stuff and nobody complains

but if Battlefield went that same route it would be infinitely better

[steep escarp]

Wait what’s the topic of discussion here?

[random rock]

ammo

[solid hinge]

I'm defending attrition because it balances people

[steep escarp]

Oh ok

Seems fair

[solid hinge]

I'm not really a skilled player but there's something toxic about how high skilled players play to me I guess

feels like ADS spam

[steep escarp]

Wait what is attrition exactly?

[solid hinge]

It's just slightly limited ammo

If you don't notice it in game then it means you conserve ammo in game which is pretty good

[steep escarp]

I don’t think that matters because you can go to an ammo supply or ask a support for ammunition in game

[hybrid dock]

that's the point

[solid hinge]

yeah I fail to see how skilled players don't benefit since it's easy to find ammo

it's just that you spawn with less

(somewhat)

[hybrid dock]

you dont spawn with full ammo

[quiet acorn]

I can never win as attacker on fortress

[midnight nimbus]

attrition 🤮

[hybrid dock]

and you can't get infinite ammo by just standing still

[solid hinge]

wait that was a thing in older bf games

[steep escarp]

Yea i usually play support so I always throw ammo pouches at the beginning of the match

[solid hinge]

really?

[random rock]

.+ lower nade spam

[solid hinge]

standing still to gain more ammo?

[random rock]

yh

[solid hinge]

the fuck?

[hybrid dock]

because pouches don't give equipment ammo

[random rock]

ammo crates

[solid hinge]

oh

[midnight nimbus]

lol no it wasn't

[rose pilot]

Two new images from Firestorm have been revealed, Blue Forest and Watchtowers.

[quiet acorn]

Its just spawn die, spawn die, spawn die, spawn die,

[hybrid dock]

ammo crates from supports

[random rock]

blue forest looks great

[hoary condor]

dam that looks awesome

[quiet acorn]

Cool

[hoary condor]

That tower 👀

[solid hinge]

Tower looks very soviet looking lol

[hybrid dock]

you have to interact now to get ammo, and it doesn't give you all the ammo at once

[random rock]

nah it's all about those birch trees

[solid hinge]

Yeah so if that's how attrition works

then why do people complain so much

or is it just one dude

[brisk field]

Yeah I bet that towers gonna be a big hot-spot

[hybrid dock]

because they suck

that's why

and they hate change

[unique kestrel]

Ooh, that looks cool

[midnight nimbus]

attrition isn't hard to counter, it's still dumb

literally punishes people for being good

amazing

[solid hinge]

Pretty flowers

[hybrid dock]

it doesn't

[brisk field]

So are these new maps of just added areas to halvøy?

[solid hinge]

it doesn't

punishes people for not working with a good support ;;))

[midnight nimbus]

DICE even said in the release that it doesn't affect lower skilled players

[hybrid dock]

you can get ammo off dead enemies

[midnight nimbus]

what if you need to play midrange

[random rock]

punishes nade spam + lowers the amount of explosive spam

[midnight nimbus]

attrition unnecessarily impacts some classes

[hybrid dock]

get a support

[midnight nimbus]

doesn't hurt others

[solid hinge]

Not really no?

[unique kestrel]

@brisk field I feel like it's probably new areas

[solid hinge]

assault you can pretty much defend using an ammo point

[brisk field]

damn

[random rock]

also if you need to play midrange, then don't waste shots

[midnight nimbus]

also attrition made everything work off the same resupply timer

[solid hinge]

sniper you can just bugger off and find an ammo spot

medic's more of a revive guy

[midnight nimbus]

you can spam PIATs faster than you can spam rockets in any other game

[solid hinge]

and support allready has a crate

[hybrid dock]

bf3 metro was literally 1000 grenades all the time

[solid hinge]

also fucking fort de vaux

[midnight nimbus]

bruh have you played Grind

[random rock]

sniper doesn't even need an ammo spot, 35 rounds is plenty if you don't miss and snipers won't be using flares that ften compared to recon scouts.

[solid hinge]

Yeah but that's grind

[brisk field]

i don't really feel attrition

[sweet fulcrum]

PATCH NOTES ARE OUT! CHECK THEM OUT!

[brisk field]

oh nicr

[solid hinge]

default BFV is pretty much tame

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, if you had Metro in BFV, the spam would be just as bad

[solid hinge]

oh shit finally

Path notes?

[sweet fulcrum]

(why the fuck can't i say a single sentence without an unintended pun)

[solid hinge]

I mean we have devestation

[midnight nimbus]

because default BFV has no tight maps

[sweet fulcrum]

they're on reddit

[solid hinge]

grind is 90% smaller than metro

[sweet fulcrum]

some admin, please post them here

[hybrid dock]

have you played bf3, you could get 1 grenade every time you threw one just by standing still

[brisk field]

the only time when I feel the need to get ammo is when I use the Lee enfield

[random rock]

• BF4's grenadier spec allowed assaults to shit explosions

[brisk field]

can we also get increased ammo for the Lee enfield

[hybrid dock]

supports can't even resupply grenades in bf5

[solid hinge]

Also wait

[hybrid dock]

you have to go to an ammo station

[solid hinge]

a good player isn't defined by kills

it's defined by teamplay

the BF community needs to stop putting kills first TBH

[random rock]

Lee users just need to pick up ammo from a station before going to snipe

[solid hinge]

an assault maybe yeah kills are necessary

but still

[idle breach]

i

flipped 100 tickets gap losing fjell round by

[hybrid dock]

support has infinite ammo, with the pouch

[idle breach]

SPYCAM PLANE

mighty spycam plane

[solid hinge]

i had no idea battlefield had that power to turn battles

but then again it's easy to win if you spot constantly with your flare gun

[hybrid dock]

battlefield does that all the time

[idle breach]

spycamplane literally spot the whole map

[solid hinge]

p08c decreased recoil
holy shit they buffed it

[idle breach]

really??

[solid hinge]

I think the problem people have with attrition is that it somehow gets tedious if you're skilled enough

maybe that's it

[hybrid dock]

oh god

[solid hinge]

[brisk field]

wow

[hybrid dock]

p08c is already good

[midnight nimbus]

attrition is unnecessary input tax

[idle breach]

tbh

[solid hinge]

which I can get but that's why DICE needs to refine the system

time to get even better

[sweet fulcrum]

Medic crates:

-When selected, heals nearby friendlies in a 2m radius from the crate. This effect is interrupted for 2 seconds while taking damage and for 1.5 seconds while being suppressed.
-When deployed, heals nearby friendlies in a 2m radius from the crate. This effect is
interrupted for 2 seconds while taking damage and for 1.5 seconds while being suppressed.
-When equipped in a gadget slot, friendly players can interact with friendly Medics to get health.

[idle breach]

normie p08 needs some buff

[random rock]

tbf a decent number of kills in a minute tends to create weaknesses in the enemy, causing overmatches that win objectives. Assault is incredibly good at causing those situations, wih medics rushing to try and plug the hole an assault creates.

[sweet fulcrum]

very epic

[midnight nimbus]

and manual self heal is garbage

[brisk field]

the po8 carbine barely even has any recoil

[sweet fulcrum]

now crates heals in radius

this is amazing

[hybrid dock]

so, the just went back to what it was before

[solid hinge]

lmao the manual heal thing is popular in games like Project Reality

[hybrid dock]

gg

[solid hinge]

do the BFV devs play PR in their spare time probably

[hybrid dock]

I love the manual healing

[random rock]

doubt it (tuuam)

[midnight nimbus]

BFV devs don't play multiplayer games

[solid hinge]

they fixed trombone nade and they made the ls easier to control

[hybrid dock]

I had no problem with it

[solid hinge]

fair

[sweet fulcrum]

Ok so basically

finally the health crate is viable again

i remember getting top score by just spamming the health crate to group of people in fort da vaux

[solid hinge]

don't really play their own games I guess

or mods of their own games

They changed the recoil again?

[hybrid dock]

I play arma 3 all the time

[solid hinge]

oh they made pistol hipfire better

these are interesting changes

[midnight nimbus]

manual self heal needs to go back to where it was a few years ago in the FPS industry

in the garbage

[hybrid dock]

yikes

[solid hinge]

See I never get this mindset

they nerfed the revolver swap speed

I grew up with planetside 2

[hybrid dock]

I can see your a major casual

[solid hinge]

[midnight nimbus]

bc it presents two problems

[solid hinge]

just recently i got into BF4 and stuff like no attrition made it horrendous

[midnight nimbus]

you getting heals when you don't deserve it

[sweet fulcrum]

all pistols gets hipfire boost
except the webley, it gets a nerf in deploy time and no hipfire boost

hell yes

[midnight nimbus]

you not getting heals when you deserve it

[hybrid dock]

how

just heal yourself

[midnight nimbus]

play BO4 for a good example of this

midfight healing

[hybrid dock]

you play casual games for a good example

[brisk field]

wait where are the patch notes

[midnight nimbus]

BO4 is almost as big of an offender as BFV self heal

so cool shooting someone and they heal midfight

[solid hinge]

I mean no that's not how it works in BFV

[midnight nimbus]

medics turning bolt actions from 2HKs to 4HKs

you can heal midfight in BFV

[solid hinge]

when you self heal in midfight you can't use your weapon for 2 seconds

which makes you vulnerable

[midnight nimbus]

it's much less than 2s

[solid hinge]

Okay 1 second

that 1 second is still vital

[sweet fulcrum]

Maps & Modes
-Removed a placeholder box from the Practice Range.

f for the debug box

[solid hinge]

f

[midnight nimbus]

vs BF4/BF1 where your pouches are in a cooldown

so you can't spam them

[hybrid dock]

also getting shot negates healing

[midnight nimbus]

BFV = your cooldown is your <1s animation

[solid hinge]

I mean cooldown is just game design

you need cooldown for stuff like that

I think the biggest thing that's positive about it is vehicles

I like the idea of flying and getting to a resupply point

Because then you can find a pattern where you can attack bombers after resupply

[midnight nimbus]

oh yes, epic design, putting the super powerful 16x Ju-88 bombs on the same timer as the weakest plane MGs

[solid hinge]

did I say anything about plane design

no

[midnight nimbus]

no its an example of attrition's failures

putting everything on the same timer

getting PIATs back as fast as pistol ammo

[sweet fulcrum]

Maps & Modes
-War Stories - Players that have an eye for details might want to play the War Stories one more time.

very, very interesting

[solid hinge]

historical accuracy bois

Okay so you made a point with putting things on different timers but that's not really related to removing attrition

[random rock]

you getting heals when you don't deserve it

With any other class than medic this advantage is a one-time use until resupply, making it the decision of the player. TTK is high enough for everything but medic that it doesn't really affect the fight since its interrupted on next hit.

you not getting heals when you deserve it

being low hp with no heals in sight creates situations where you have to think around the situation you likely put yourself in by overextending in the first place. Whether that's retreating, building a supply station, being sneaky or whatever, it's more interesting than getting shot and hiding behind a rock for 5 secs to reset the fight.

[midnight nimbus]

is it really a decision?

[random rock]

also yh, medic has broken heals

[sweet fulcrum]

UI/HUD/Options/Assignments/Other Changes
-A pizza baker was experimenting with new flavors, when he suddenly had an awful idea. He decided to use pineapple as topping. Having served it to his friend, the reaction was simply “Ha! Why?” - thus, the pizza was named Hawaii.

[midnight nimbus]

uhhhh am i gonna save my attrition pouch for later or run around with 50hp and gamble with being able to get 2 shotted by anything

[ancient ocean]

I agree with you @random rock

[sweet fulcrum]

the pizza legacy continues

[solid hinge]

save it for later?

[midnight nimbus]

low hp with no health = why not push anyways? you don't gain anything from continuing to sit anywhere

[sweet fulcrum]

Firestorm - Improved visibility through aperture sights when running the game on low settings.

this will help some people

[solid hinge]

jesus christ what did the casual game industry do to people

[midnight nimbus]

it reduces your decision making

[idle breach]

Anyone got patchnote for tomorrow

[midnight nimbus]

full health regen: sit back for 30s to regain your health, or push right now

[solid hinge]

that doesn't reduce your decision making at all what

[ancient ocean]

Patch notes in #game-news @idle breach

[midnight nimbus]

BFV is a game of reduced decision making in general

[random rock]

it reduces your decision making
full health regen: sit back for 30s to regain your health, or push right now

That's fewer decisions than the attrition system gives, and depending on what class I was in previous BFs, I might yolo in or I might wait.

[midnight nimbus]

I mean that makes vehicle play incredibly relaxing

[solid hinge]

no not really

[random rock]

laughs in 40 piats

[solid hinge]

ammo points for vehicles are placed near bases

[midnight nimbus]

okay, I'll give that to you
> sitting with low hp, no heals
> redeploy
> push with no health anyways

[dusky saffron]

heck yeah

[solid hinge]

which are far away from the action

[midnight nimbus]

bruh tanking is the easiest it's ever been

attrition? never heard of her. British tanks get so much ammo

[random rock]

true

[solid hinge]

they got infinite ammo in older games

[dusky saffron]

also very interesting

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 ammo pool was the most sensible solution

that actually punished vehicle shitters

[dusky saffron]

crates bring back the take mechanic from bfh

[midnight nimbus]

you could actually run out of ammo in the short run

[solid hinge]

Not really

[midnight nimbus]

while not being cucked in the long run

[solid hinge]

if you just waited around for 10 seconds it would regenerate

See there's no breakpoint

[wanton orbit]

Well the medic crate changes are turbo dumb

[solid hinge]

the action just keeps on going

[wanton orbit]

why bother with the bandage system at all at this point. Loved the new crates vs the old magic crates in BF4

[solid hinge]

you need a breakpoint where you resupply / go back to base to refill so that the enemy can retaliate

[random rock]

bandage pouches are good for resupplying ppl on the move , that's it really.

[midnight nimbus]

you have 5 rounds at a time before your ammo regenerated in BF4 tanks

[solid hinge]

Okay but still

current medic crate was shit though

[midnight nimbus]

you actually have to hit your shots in a tank duel or you're screwed

[solid hinge]

old crate I mean

[dusky saffron]

now it's good

[midnight nimbus]

BFV: you have like 30 rounds in the short run

[dusky saffron]

ammo crate just got the take treatment which is fine

[midnight nimbus]

who cares about accuracy in tank duels

[solid hinge]

???

Your points don't really make sense

you still have to resupply

[random rock]

leaving bad bf4 tank players to either die, or snipe on golmud with a recon/gunner soflam

[midnight nimbus]

yes, so BFV forces to resupply in the long run

[solid hinge]

I mean that's good

[random rock]

except it doesnt

[midnight nimbus]

but you can be an absolute shitter in the short run

[solid hinge]

Not really no

now it matters more where you hit

What do you think about Battlefield v right now?

[random rock]

alright

[midnight nimbus]

you can just yolo tank shells everywhere and still have enough to duel a tank

[solid hinge]

it's good but they need to stop listening to the console kiddies

[midnight nimbus]

no, as someone who is pretty much guaranteed better than you at tanking

accuracy is much less important in BFV tanking

[solid hinge]

Okay see

you can fix that by having tank shells come in rounds of 5

dont bully my console

[midnight nimbus]

you can screw around and shell nothing before deciding to do something useful

[solid hinge]

and then having to reload each round

that has nothing really to do with attrition

[midnight nimbus]

and BF4 ammo pool rewards good drivers for staying alive in the long run as well

[solid hinge]

No not really

[midnight nimbus]

yeah

you don't have enough ammo to miss in the short run

[rose pilot]

@charred heron we dropping Watchtowers tomorrow

[hoary condor]

[solid hinge]

I think, Dice need to improve

all you need to do to reload ammo is by sitting still behind a corner

[midnight nimbus]

and you have to swap to coax more than you do in BFV

[solid hinge]

that's lazy

[midnight nimbus]

uhhhh in BFV you sit still on a resupply

no different

oh and you hold X

[solid hinge]

Yes but you actually need to make a deal to escape

It's pretty fucking scary loosing ammo then breaking it to the ammo station

[midnight nimbus]

not really

[solid hinge]

as the enemy tank chases you

[rose pilot]

Use Gold Tier Weapons to Be the Last Squad Standing

Even more powerful loot is coming, too. The Firestorm update contains the mode's first weapon of the Gold Tier – the highest rarity level following Common, Rare, and Epic. Nicknamed the "elephant gun," the Gold Tier weapon in question is the Boys AT Rifle. It has some serious stopping power and will give players the means to attack enemy vehicles. Look through safes, lockers, and supply drops and you may find it.

Like the purple MG42 wasn't enough

[dusky saffron]

[midnight nimbus]

BFV tanking is relaxing as shit

[dusky saffron]

The new landmarks are lit

[hoary condor]

So exciting!

[dusky saffron]

[solid hinge]

how much do you even do well in tanking?

[midnight nimbus]

I can sit around and go 65-0 while eating chips

[random rock]

you can just yolo tank shells everywhere and still have enough to duel a tank

or you know, they could just yolo ram you if they're in the right tank.

The ammo pool is large, but tanks get melted easier now than they did in other BFs, where they mattered against infantry a lot. it's why we see a lot of sniping bots in tanks who fire twenty or so rounds then reverse into the ammo station and repeat until their team falls.

[midnight nimbus]

I probably have a >30 K/D tanking

[dusky saffron]

@rose pilot When are we getting that Talking Heads remix

that's the update I need

[rose pilot]

Burning down the house

[dusky saffron]

[solid hinge]

i think it has to do with using a War Thunder turret system

[dusky saffron]

We're in for nasty weather

[solid hinge]

since the tank doesn't snap to mouse

[midnight nimbus]

i regularly get 50-70 kills and no deaths while topping the scoreboard whenever i tank

BFV tanking is peak casual

[solid hinge]

gold boys

is it.. gonna be like the kraber?

[rose pilot]

i hope not

[dusky saffron]

AT rifle

[solid hinge]

if they dont boost the damage considerably its gonna suck

[dusky saffron]

so far

[solid hinge]

it doesnt even do 100 damage on the default game

imagine having to hit someone with full armour 4 times to kill them

with an anti tank gun

wheres the excavation site

[rose pilot]

Like the Martini Henry prior to it's great nerf in BF1's early life.

[solid hinge]

23rpm

i dont see it on the map

?

I think yeah the only problem with tanks are the cowards who snipe with them

[midnight nimbus]

well remember that sniper rifles do different damage in MP vs FS

[solid hinge]

[midnight nimbus]

no tanks have a ton of problems

[random rock]

Probably a 3 shot in CA

[solid hinge]

how much are they boosting it though

[midnight nimbus]

idk mang idc about FS

[solid hinge]

Sniping with tanks is the most viable move at the moment though

tanks in firestorm require a full fucking crew lmao

You get considerably worse at close range

you'd loose your shit if they worked the same way in multiplayer

[midnight nimbus]

if you're rushing objs in a tank in BFV, you're just a dumb tanker

[sweet fulcrum]

Also
turn speed modifications for planes
no more ju-88 outturning everything

[solid hinge]

you're supposed to push with infantry

[rose pilot]

The Kraber was so annoying to use

so slow

[solid hinge]

Tanks don't push by themselves

[midnight nimbus]

tanks don't push

period

[solid hinge]

thank God the fighters can turn again now

They do?

[midnight nimbus]

you're giving up everything you're useful at

[solid hinge]

allegedly

I mean it's not hard if you have supports

[midnight nimbus]

for no advantage

you don't have the turret turn speed to deal with infy up close

[rose pilot]

Oh yeah. Bombers cannot outturn fighters now which is a blessing.

[random rock]

Tanks need infantry to push anything, but they shouldn't just kill farm at the back of the map.

[solid hinge]

Tanks excel at ranged damage

[midnight nimbus]

BFV tanking is positioningfield

[random rock]

^

[solid hinge]

See your complaints are that it's too hard for you to think

[random rock]

knowing when to push, how and where

[solid hinge]

They really dont do so good at up close, the 3rd person camera is inaccurate and the first person has input lag

[midnight nimbus]

meaning find a good position, kill everything with your right hand, eat chips with your left

[solid hinge]

the only accurate tank fire is zoomed

and that isnt viable close up

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 tanking is much harder

[solid hinge]

that's just how the mechanics work

[random rock]

You sound like an Arty payer kht

[midnight nimbus]

you actually have the speed and turret to push

so you can sit on objs

[solid hinge]

Yes but it's not fun going against a killer terminator tank

[midnight nimbus]

but you have to micromanage everything

[solid hinge]

no

[midnight nimbus]

and you can't camp bc Javelins

[idle breach]

When deployed, heals nearby friendlies in a 2m radius from the crate. This effect is

is

[solid hinge]

Dude you list the fucking 'complexities' of the BF4 tanking system but it all boils down to 'stand still and get ammo'

[idle breach]

is what????????

[rose pilot]

I'm most excited about this. I hate auto leaning it doesn't work whenever I need it lol.

Manual Leaning

Leaning is a feature that already exists in Battlefield V using the auto-leaning system. With this update, we are introducing manual leaning which allows players to have more control over leaning and use this feature in more cases than what the auto-leaning systems allows.

• Manual leaning is only available when aiming down sight.

• Moving while leaning is 50% slower.

• It is not possible to use a bipod while manual leaning.

• Players can decide if leaning should be a toggle or a hold (OPTIONS / CONTROLS).

[midnight nimbus]

the only reason to really push with BFV tanks is if you have a British tank with silly string

[restive talon]

Crates have healing aura now?

[solid hinge]

im concerned I dont have enough buttons to make leaning work

[random rock]

Man. Leaning sounds interesting

[midnight nimbus]

not a coincidence that zero good BF vehicle players praise BFV's mechanics

[random rock]

becaue they're in a wonky state

e.g. the fighters last patch

[solid hinge]

tfw you try to bayonet someone but lean right instead

[rose pilot]

@solid hinge Time to upgrade to one of those fancy controllers with 80 pedals for epic gamer time.

[fathom pebble]

@rose pilot I prefer the pizza joke jaqub left in the patch notes

[rose pilot]

lmao

[midnight nimbus]

BF4 already did vehicles pretty much perfectly

[solid hinge]

stupid paddles

[rose pilot]

Oh wait

the notes specify how to lean

[random rock]

BF has been overloaded for controls for ages.

it's madness trying to re-map them.

[rose pilot]

You push the movement sticks while ADS to lean. @solid hinge

that sounds so uncomfortable, but again I don't know how to controller.exe

[midnight nimbus]

When players are directly looking at a visible enemy within 8m, the enemy name tag will be visible for that player only, similar to previous Battlefield titles.

this is what I was saying a few days ago when I said that the visibility changes make MMG campers git fukt

[solid hinge]

that... could work I guess but jeez it ain't gonna be nice aiming

[rose pilot]

lol

[random rock]

that's a nice change kht

[dusky saffron]

@rose pilot Ironically this was my plan for leaning on console years ago when I was a console player for bf3

[rose pilot]

I'm guessing it's like siege where you dont have to hold it

[solid hinge]

does that say activate strafe to lean

[dusky saffron]

just press the sticks lmao

[midnight nimbus]

I'm not gonna be activating manual lean

not worth

[rose pilot]

ACTIVATE STRAFE TO LEAN WHILE ZOOMING:

Zooming and using the “Activate Strafe to Lean While Zooming” key (PC Default “F”, Console Default “R3”). When this key is pressed, strafing becomes leaning.

[dusky saffron]

ah

so it's just pressed

[midnight nimbus]

it's not fast enough to be an effective method of peeking

[dusky saffron]

not held

[random rock]

If I can find a nice bind button for it, I might

[solid hinge]

Oh shit nametags

[dusky saffron]

gonna have to rebind Q and E

make spotting Z and interact F

[jagged nexus]

A pizza baker was experimenting with new flavors, when he suddenly had an awful idea. He decided to use pineapple as topping. Having served it to his friend, the reaction was simply “Ha! Why?” - thus, the pizza was named Hawaii. see will we get pearl harbor?

[solid hinge]

no longer will I worry so much about corpses

[rose pilot]

F is the melee though

REEE

[dusky saffron]

Well

before bf

V was my melee

all the time

or the mouse button

[random rock]

LT is mine

[midnight nimbus]

I don't melee

[rose pilot]

I'm not changing my melee to V that's stupid

F is more comfortable

ree

[dusky saffron]

No it's not

you big goof

[midnight nimbus]

so I might as well make it QE

[jagged vector]

I’m gonna use the Siege-style leaning control map

[restive talon]

When the game reaches it one year mark it will be good

[fathom pebble]

joke about a pizza
GrabsTinFoilHat.png
Guys we getting pearl harbour
mfw

[solid hinge]

peak melee is 3rd mouse button

[fathom pebble]

[rose pilot]

F Melee
G Grenade
V Zeroing distance

[dusky saffron]

sometimes melee is my 3rd mouse button

but BF is the only series where F was my melee

tomorrow that changes

[midnight nimbus]

I have gadget 1 on mouse 3, grenade on mouse 2

self heal on click wheel

[gray glade]

i literally have run out of keys for binds

[midnight nimbus]

so I can spam it as medic

[rose pilot]

Note that it is also recommended to unassign “Activate Strafe to Lean While Zooming” when using manual leaning. Using L3 and R3 is recommended on console.

[dusky saffron]

how do you run out of binds

[solid hinge]

Click wheel..

[random rock]

easily

[dusky saffron]

turn off voice mod

[midnight nimbus]

i have a ton of binds left

[dusky saffron]

Cool

[rose pilot]

Actually yeah my scrolling wheel button does nothing.

I can reassign that to melee but that'd be more uncomfortable

[dusky saffron]

middle mouse button

as melee

[gray glade]

absolutely barbaric

[solid hinge]

I just use arrow keys

[dusky saffron]

just use your 3rd mouse button

[random rock]

might have to remove a feature or dual bind minimap-zoom to add autolean on the controller.

[rose pilot]

I would have melee for Mouse3 but I use it for PTT on Discord

[dusky saffron]

you poor boy

[weak violet]

What is this heresy

[dusky saffron]

just turn off discord

[stoic breach]

Those were some interesting patch notes

[dusky saffron]

the patch notes sound nice

[weak violet]

Nah I will let discord turn me off

[dusky saffron]

gives me reason to play again

[stoic breach]

Healing aura is very nice

[weak violet]

[dusky saffron]

[gray glade]

patch notes where?

[dusky saffron]

Healing aura

[rose pilot]

War Stories - Players that have an eye for details might want to play the War Stories one more time.

[dusky saffron]

the ability to grab stuff off your teammates if they have gadget

manual leaning

thank fuck for manual leaning

[weak violet]

So medic crates give off a healing aura

[stoic breach]

Manual leaning might help against rushing enemies

Yeah

[dusky saffron]

Manual leaning will help on defender side

of certain gamemodes

[weak violet]

So they actually have a use now

[solid hinge]

Wait we're all talking about leaning

War stories..

[dusky saffron]

No.

[solid hinge]

Big concern is visibility

[dusky saffron]

[midnight nimbus]

read all the good stuff awhile ago :/ I was hoping for something good

[dusky saffron]

Visibility is a concern if you're blind

fact

[midnight nimbus]

no

[dusky saffron]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

even if you have good vision

[rose pilot]

I don't like BFV's War Stories as much as I loved BF1's and nothing can change my mind I'm sorry.

[solid hinge]

Like I had no problems with visibility but now people complain about it?

[dusky saffron]

^

[midnight nimbus]

the game is just tiring on your eyes

[stoic breach]

Now DICE needs to buff medic pouches with Reciprocity and give a self-heal cooldown 😩😩

[dusky saffron]

game is tiring on your eyes

[random rock]

eyeballs are an evolutionary advantage

[dusky saffron]

speak for youself

[solid hinge]

Well you must have shit vision

[midnight nimbus]

like i have 20/15 vision, my eyes are plenty good

[dusky saffron]

game is hurtful on eyes != people camouflaged due to differing contrast

[random rock]

also the adaptive lighting is pretty trash

[midnight nimbus]

it's just tiring on the eyes

[rose pilot]

MMM Nothing was more tiring for the eyes than playing on Suez in BF1

[solid hinge]

I don't complain about the one camper who killed me in the fog

[dusky saffron]

Adaptive lighting is bad on a lot of games tbh

[fleet raft]

Will there ever be new maps coming to the game?

[solid hinge]

There are SO many times I've been shot by a dark corner that I was convinced someone was in but I couldn't see them because they were pitch black

[dusky saffron]

but it doesn't help here

[midnight nimbus]

I mean with the right visibility cfg, it's not bad

[stoic breach]

Next week is a new map

Yeet dab

[dusky saffron]

leave

[stoic breach]

👽

[hoary condor]

Suez was a good map

[dusky saffron]

[hoary condor]

though i mortored a lot of attack

[idle breach]

War Stories - Players that have an eye for details might want to play the War Stories one more time.

[gray glade]

"Crates now inherit from the soldier’s speed to increase the throw distance."

[rose pilot]

Hopefully with the new model lighting we can spot players in dark corners or bushes easier.

[stoic breach]

Suez sucked on conquest

[idle breach]

what if I have two eyes for details

[gray glade]

watch me chuck that crate 100m

[stoic breach]

Player lighting and name tags

Very nice

Very nice indeed

[random rock]

MP games where there's less intense adaptive lighting are just better experiences because the world outside oesn't turn pitch black because you went into a house.

[midnight nimbus]

adaptive lighting would be fine if BFV's color palette were good

instead they literally used a color palette straight out of a movie

[random rock]

^

lower intensity, increase saturation a little

[midnight nimbus]

which generally aren't made for ideal visibility

contrasts are too high

[rose pilot]

F i n a l l y .

Fixed a specific crash that was causing instability when using Spectator mode.

[stoic breach]

People complained about the game looking like fortnite before lol

[midnight nimbus]

darks are too dark

lights are too light

[solid hinge]

tfw someone dives into a bush when you're shooting at them and ceases to exist

[midnight nimbus]

you can tweak this all with NVIDIA game filters and cfgs

but console players can't

and you shouldn't need to tweak the shit out of a game to make it playable

[random rock]

which is aids for console plebs like me

[dusky saffron]

game's still playable and I didn't touch anything

[solid hinge]

Is this why they always make essay long dissertations about visibility

On the subreddit

[rose pilot]

Oh yikes. Someone killed me yesterday when I had the advantage but they literally dolphin dove their way to victory. Drop Shotting in BFV that's like a first for me.

[random rock]

lol

[dusky saffron]

Imagine actually losing to someone dropshotting

[weak violet]

Dolphin diving???

[dusky saffron]

[weak violet]

Imagine playing this game

[solid hinge]

I've heard of dolphin diving

[weak violet]

[solid hinge]

What is it again

[random rock]

full sprint to jump prone

[dusky saffron]

People dropshotting in BFV are the biggest jokes tbh

puts a smile on my face as it gives me time to shoot them

[rose pilot]

My guess would be bad internet. Literally swam his way on sand in hamada.

Was pretty funny, but shadowplay cucked me as usual

[versed notch]

[gray glade]

dice hating on pineapple on pizza lovers

WOW

why the hate guiz

[solid hinge]

Where the “Fixed an issue where players could not purchase Epic quality skins with Company Coin” at

[rose pilot]

I wont say no to pineapple on pizza

[random rock]

I will

[rose pilot]

but thats more #general talk

[versed notch]

[gray glade]

i was just discussing the patch notes brother

😄

btw "Weapons earned through class progression are now properly unlocked even if the player leaves mid-round." nice

[charred heron]

@gray glade I wait until they mention the famous mint chocolate, broccoli and pineapple pizza

[gray glade]

hurls

[versed notch]

Took them a while with that fix lol

[idle breach]

i guess

medic crates would be op

we need to buff bandages like having 50m range

and add some manual guiding system

[lapis hare]

though, having to yeet a bandage 50m away

a little bit overkill

[idle breach]

I want my upcoming american soldier can throw 90mph fastball bandage

also I want faction-specific healing methods

medical crates for brit should be changed into something like big tea pot

[gray glade]

wait, isnt default melee on PC set to F?

[lapis hare]

yup

[idle breach]

yup

[gray glade]

so what did they change it to now?

[idle breach]

manual leaning

[gray glade]

nah but i mean what is melee now

[idle breach]

you hit F you lean

F

you melee by leaning

called headbutt

[gray glade]

lol

i was serious tho

[idle breach]

I dunno

[solid hinge]

Lean spam is gonna be real after this update

Just like siege

So get ready for that lads

[idle breach]

I'm kinda worried about manual leaning is bugged as fcuk

or some stupid thing like boyz at rifle master assignment V : kill 5 enemies in a life while leaning rightside

[solid hinge]

You lose out if you lean spam and bipods don't work during it

That would be sad but epic

[gray glade]

im not liking this leaning thing one bit

[lapis hare]

oh boy

[soft storm]

Bruh they brought back the healing aura hahaha

[gray glade]

i have to rebind my keys now

[lapis hare]

catch up is coming tomorrow

[midnight nimbus]

lean spam won't be a thing

[soft storm]

Medic crate meta is coming home!

[midnight nimbus]

unless you hate hitting anything

[soft storm]

Dude, don’t use manual lean, it’s not worth the time or effort

[lapis hare]

I only play Battlefield

to run around

& admire the maps

[gray glade]

@soft storm but if leaning while zooming is activated you lean by pressing left and right strafe right?

[soft storm]

I have no idea

But I assume it’s like siege or pubg

[gray glade]

ah yes

[waxen girder]

Q & E, right ?

[gray glade]

"Zooming and using the “Activate Strafe to Lean While Zooming” key (PC Default “F”, Console Default “R3”). When this key is pressed, strafing becomes leaning."

[soft storm]

EW

[gray glade]

but that doesnt sound good to me

cuz you wont be able to move

[soft storm]

STRAFING BECOMES LEANING?!

No no no no

[jagged vector]

The second option let’s you Siege-lean

[soft storm]

Don’t activate manual leaning

[jagged vector]

The first option is just bad

[waxen girder]

A & E on Azerty ?

[idle breach]

we only need

[gray glade]

"LEAN RIGHT / LEAN LEFT WHILE ZOOMING:

You can manually assign a key binding to both “Lean Left While Zooming” and “Lean Right While

Zooming” (Not assigned by default). This is possible on console using a custom soldier mapping."

[idle breach]

MORTAR now

again BF1 yay

[gray glade]

so rebinding it is the only option for me anyways

[rough river]

R6s but its battlefield

Lmao

[waxen girder]

Why shouldn't we use it ?

[soft storm]

Ok, so CoD used to have manual leaning on PC, and NOBODY used it

[coral fiber]

Bro when they said improved turning rate for fighters i was so happy

[idle breach]

hey

[solid hinge]

yeah i remember og cod 4 on pc having leaning

[idle breach]

actually people used manual leaning on CoD

[solid hinge]

waw too

[soft storm]

Barely

[solid hinge]

it was useless

[idle breach]

people did locked themselves in leaned pose and

forgot about that

often

like

[waxen girder]

I'll discover it, then

[soft storm]

Yeah but the people who did that also ran flamethrower and LMG’s on WaW

[idle breach]

why is my camera angle slightly messed up?

and just playing

[solid hinge]

i didnt play waw mp

i only know about the mp40 meme

[soft storm]

I barely did

[solid hinge]

should bfv mp40 be a 2 shot kill

hmm

blast from the past

[idle breach]

let's just put every aspect of popular fps in bfv

[solid hinge]

yeah

put stopping power

[soft storm]

Next they’re gonna add double jump to BFV

🤦

[idle breach]

and some things from other genres

[midnight nimbus]

that would unironically make the game more fun

double jump

[solid hinge]

exo suits

[soft storm]

They already added in building

[idle breach]

• stomped players would take 80 damage

[solid hinge]

kano ball from mk

i wanna kano ball a tank

[idle breach]

• new shiny elven tank armour is added to armory

[soft storm]

Next they’re gonna add in horse armor

[idle breach]

lol

crossed minds

[solid hinge]

horses kano balling

[idle breach]

open world survival crafting battlefield

you mix one mp40, two kar98k and pop a FG42

[midnight nimbus]

LS/26 nerf makes me sad 😦

hope the ease of use buff makes it worth it

[idle breach]

premium users would get canvas bag

[waxen girder]

Still waiting for space exploration, tho

[idle breach]

elite character for japanese : Kiryu Kazuma.

[solid hinge]

Interesting combo of nerf and buff