battlefield-legacy-titles

[rough river]

Not this tho ^

[solid hinge]

Ive noticed alot more of instant kills

[deft geode]

should be more specific - game of firestorm

[solid hinge]

Well youre australian

I think theres ur answer chief

Firestorm is pretty much not playable outside of the us or eu

[deft geode]

they fixed the server issues last week.. had heaps of games but now this started happening .. thought there may of been server issues

[jagged nexus]

hope the idiot, who developed the spawn system will get fired soon...

[solid hinge]

Wow those weekly objectives, they took me like three games to unwittingly complete

[stoic breach]

Holy fuck

I'm never going to fix my K/D with fucking braindead teammates

[dusky saffron]

Just play a lot of TDM nonstop with a premade

:^)

[chrome rapids]

Wasn't there a competition for bf 1

On xbox

[north hazel]

like game wise?

not really

I mean Call of Duty WoRlD wAr OnE eXiStEd

[red vessel]

@stoic breach It's all about that SPM, not your K/D :p

[stoic breach]

Its about everything

😔

[robust timber]

i need a clan

[north hazel]

what

wo wo wo their are clans in BF now

[iron jungle]

@solid hinge I have something important to tell you.

[robust moon]

What are the most powerful BF franchise guns in your opinion?

[green elm]

the big sniper on bf4

my god that thing sounded beastly

[rough river]

The kolibri

[iron jungle]

I always hated the ACE variants in BF4. I feel like I was always getting fucked by those things.

[robust timber]

i need a platton

[green elm]

ACE, AEK, ACWR...

the A’s were all pretty good guns

AUG A3

AN94!

[versed notch]

Ak12

[green elm]

an94>ak12 in every sense

👀

[iron jungle]

i really fucking loved the AN-94

[green elm]

an94 was king/queen

[robust timber]

i need a platoon

[iron jungle]

I think I feel in love with that gun in BF 3, I think? I didnt care for it as much in 4 (it was still really damn good) as I did in previous titles. Gun still owned.

[green elm]

bf3 an94 was broken lol

bf4 was tame but the burst mode was still quite good

[iron jungle]

@robust timber You can join mine if you want. We play 9pm-2/3am nightly.

[green elm]

probably a top 3 burst weapon behind the M16A4

[robust timber]

maybe

but i need a platooon

[iron jungle]

I always loved the M16A4. It always looked fucking sweet with the ACOG and silencer. It was so damn beautiful.

[green elm]

M16A4 is quite aesthetically pleasing

it’s behind AUG A3 in terms of look tho

AUG is my favourite weapon

[iron jungle]

I never really felt that great about the AUG. That trigger guard always made it weird for me.

It's a great weapon. I couldnt get over the way it looked though.

[green elm]

fair enough, i always thought it was cool looking

silencers always make guns 20% cooler tho

that’s why AS Val is so cool

[iron jungle]

Word. I love that damn gun

[versed notch]

PP-2000 with suppressor in bf3

[green elm]

suppressed snipers

[midnight nimbus]

oooouuuu best guns in BF series?

[green elm]

oh man

[midnight nimbus]

1. BFH G17
2. BFH K10
3. BF3 AN-94
4. BFV MAS-44
5. BF4 Bulldog

ranked in terms of how game breaking they are

HM) BF3 M416 because it was better than the M16A3

[green elm]

not one bf3/4 shotgun

im disappointed

[narrow estuary]

Hi

[sweet fulcrum]

You misspelled gluger

[midnight nimbus]

Hawk 12G

but it's not busted

just good

the first 3 guns are just outright broken

[versed notch]

Hawk 12g full choke oml

[green elm]

an94 was actually op as shit

[midnight nimbus]

could one burst to the head

[versed notch]

I just used the normal m416

[green elm]

no aek tho?

[midnight nimbus]

killed in 2 frames

[versed notch]

Sit down m16a3

[midnight nimbus]

no

[green elm]

or SCAR even?

[midnight nimbus]

AEK wasn't busted

[versed notch]

Bf3's netcode made it no reason to use the aek

[midnight nimbus]

nor was the SCAR-H

[green elm]

guess they werent quite OP

[midnight nimbus]

BF3 = M416 and AN94 were top

[versed notch]

You could delete people with the m416 vs the aek

10hz servers amirite

[midnight nimbus]

top players just used M16 bc they were already comfy with it

10Hz logic loop*

not the same as server tick rate

[versed notch]

Good point

But I missed the glocks too

[midnight nimbus]

on a 10Hz logic loop, M16A3 and M416 have the same TTK

BFH G17 was just insanity

[narrow estuary]

Aww man I miss the martin henry before the patch from bf1

[midnight nimbus]

man that wasn't even close to broken tho

.300 Knockout from BFH >>>>

[green elm]

glock was the bane of my existence

[narrow estuary]

Yea

[versed notch]

Remember model 10-a hunter in launch oml

[green elm]

recons could delete you in 2 frames

[stoic breach]

Who up for Boys Rifle sweet spot

[green elm]

^please

[midnight nimbus]

I fucking wish

too bad the BF community loves sniper rifles that suck

[stoic breach]

The only reason I was against sweet spot was because it didnt give me a distance value when I killed someone lol

Vs a headshot

Is APCR going to do anything for the Boys?

[midnight nimbus]

as of now, no

[solid hinge]

what's the actual stat change? Increased velocity or something?

[stoic breach]

I feel like the appeal of the Boys will come mostly from pissing people off

[versed notch]

Pissing tanks off seems to be a popular option

[stoic breach]

They could make it a one-shot kill and not give you much spare ammo

If the Kraber can be a one-shot kill in a game where it takes on average 6 shots to kill someone, why not make the Boys AT an OHK

[random ice]

When’s the weekly debrief gonna be out?

[midnight nimbus]

Boys AT should've been a gadget

plain and simple

[stoic breach]

A very large gadget 👀

[midnight nimbus]

making it a primary introduces so many issues

[stoic breach]

They should've made it a secondary

[random ice]

Any idea about update notes ?

[solid hinge]

i love the issues

[stoic breach]

Update notes probably gonna be in the next few days

[midnight nimbus]

they're gud patch notes

[random ice]

Rip
Thought they would be in the weekly debrief

[solid hinge]

To be fair the kraber is a lot harder to use

[random ice]

Is it just me or can I never seem to decide between the zk, Tommy and Suomi?

[stoic breach]

I cant wait for some light reading

@solid hinge I have a G8 Kraber on PS4 and a G18 Kraber on Xbox

[random ice]

Like for a while, I play really well with one of them and switch.
Then I switch again and play even better

[stoic breach]

Its surprising how many people just stand still, its also a nice surprise to catch someone off with a bouncing bullet

@random ice the fast ZK is the default thompson with a bipod so its pretty much interchangeable

[random ice]

Yeah and yet I find it’s shape makes it better to use for some reason

Plus the hipfire is to die for

[stoic breach]

Yeah its nice

I use 981rpm Suomi with the hipfire and its great

[random ice]

That mag tho

[stoic breach]

Bigmag Thompson is nice as well, I use bigmag for that

[random ice]

It burns thru it’s rounds

[stoic breach]

Chicago Typewriter style

Haha how do you think I feel then, with 20 round 981rpm suomi

I love it

It just melts people

[random ice]

I can’t seem to control recoil on my Suomi or any medic gun for that matter so I usually hipfire

[stoic breach]

I dont have trouble with ads on the Suomi so I spec it for hipfire and do both

[random ice]

Or tap-fire at range

[stoic breach]

Yeah ranged bursting is great

[versed notch]

Suomi ads is just suicidal in general lol

[random ice]

Suomi jumps like crazy

[versed notch]

I love it tho

[stoic breach]

I accidentally managed to kill someone with spray control

It was great

[deft sundial]

[random ice]

The only gun I can manage recoil perfectly in is the ribeye lol

But the low rof isn’t a good trade off for better control

[solid hinge]

@stoic breach I like it a lot too!! Sidewinder is my baby though

Ribey was ridiculously accurate before the recoil changes

I dont like it as much anymore

[stoic breach]

SMR is great, I use it in Frontier Defence

Also the assault rifle change has just made the M1907 a monster

[hoary condor]

Aftermoon 🌙

[solid hinge]

m1907 was always a demon

[stoic breach]

Remember how I said I use an aperture on the M1907

[dense bone]

and im bored of bfv again

[stoic breach]

I can just pull the trigger and I get 4 lovely bullets perfectly lined up

Nyphon the new map will be soon 😩

[random ice]

If they introduce maps solely for the 5v5 mode I’ll be livid

[dense bone]

new map is cool, but idk, i think im just capped out on the game

[solid hinge]

..maybe you're the demon

[dense bone]

IM the demon?

[solid hinge]

theres not enough in it to justify continuous play at the moment

you're right nyphon

and not a demon!

[dense bone]

i dont feel theres anything for me to work for

[solid hinge]

yeah

everything reaches max level fast

[dense bone]

the only thing i can get good with now are bolts

and bolts are poo poo

[solid hinge]

one day you're gonna love them

one day..

[stoic breach]

The bolts are fun

Especially the Trombone

[random ice]

Level cap gonna be increased soon tho

[stoic breach]

Flicking heads is most satisfying

[solid hinge]

trombone doesnt count because it's not actually shit

[dense bone]

idc aboutlevel cap

[stoic breach]

Yeah true

[dense bone]

meaningless progression

[stoic breach]

Do you want to see my accidentally perfect suomi spray control

😩

[random ice]

Meh
Some people do like it nonetheless

[dense bone]

yea some people, but not me

[solid hinge]

Im excited for the level cap raise just so I stop fucking reaching level 50

[dense bone]

im the person that chases skill progression more than cosmetics or levels

[versed notch]

Just make the lvlcap 100 pls

[solid hinge]

the boys will be here soon nyphon

new level of skill..

[dense bone]

old man voice
back in my day we didnt even have levels

[stoic breach]

We just had Hang Em High and Sniper FFA

Halo Combat Evolved style

[dense bone]

i think halo was the first game i played with levels

[stoic breach]

Haha

Which one was that

[dense bone]

i played halo 2 online first

i played story for halo 1 first though, but i dont count that as online

since i didnt play it online

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[dense bone]

halo 2 came out when?

[stoic breach]

2004

[dense bone]

yea

so i was 13

[stoic breach]

Dang

I was 3

[dense bone]

yea i had played a bunch of fps before that

[random ice]

Ah same man

2001 gang rise up

[dense bone]

[stoic breach]

2001 gang

[solid hinge]

halo was my first fps

[stoic breach]

Same

[solid hinge]

I didnt play battlefield for ages

[stoic breach]

I only got into Battlefield in 2016

That feels so weird

[dense bone]

i think my FIRST online fps was cs 1.6 or unreal tournament

[stoic breach]

Damn real shit

1.6 just looks archaic now

[dense bone]

that was my jam

[noble current]

[versed notch]

Cs1.6

Where walls were made of paper

[dense bone]

scoutz_knives

[stoic breach]

1.6 didnt have uhh dangerzone though

[dense bone]

dude, the wall bangs in 1.6 were insane

[versed notch]

func_vehicle

de_rats

Man I miss those maps

Yeah wallbangs were insane af

Lemme lose 50hp behind a 10ft thick wall

[stoic breach]

Wacky

[dense bone]

i like that bfv has light wall bangs

even if they are rare

[stoic breach]

Yeah

Its like wooden shit

like siege

[dense bone]

which is like, 3% of the materials in game

[weak jolt]

wall bangs?

[stoic breach]

yeah

[weak jolt]

whats that

[stoic breach]

I remember getting fence wallbangs in BF1

[dense bone]

@weak jolt being able to penetrate walls

[solid hinge]

Shooting people through walls

[weak jolt]

ooh

[dense bone]

idk why they got the name wall bangs

[solid hinge]

im assuming people used to get sick headshots through walls

[dense bone]

in cs 1.6 you could literally shoot through multiple layers of walls with little to no dmg fall off

[solid hinge]

someone probably coined it in 1.6 judging from the sound of that

[dense bone]

there were certain maps people would just shoot a random awp shot through walls towards enemy spawns and get a kill

[versed notch]

Wallbangs could apply to anything really

It's just an easier way of saying killing someone through a solid object

[stoic breach]

yeah wallbang would be a pretty appropriate name for something like that

gunshot bang through a wall

yeah

[versed notch]

Hell if I kill someone through a floor below me, I'll still call it a wallbang

de_vertigo btW

[stoic breach]

Me and my friends just call it a floorbang

Cause its easier

Than saying "wallbang the floor"

[versed notch]

eh, wallbang is more universal

Wallbanged a dude at B

[weak jolt]

ceiling bang

[stoic breach]

People still know what I'm talking about

Ceiling is also floorbang

[dense bone]

i always say it normally

[solid hinge]

floorbang sounds like it has different connotations

[stoic breach]

wallbang does as well

[dense bone]

"shot a guy through the floor/wall/ceiling"

[soft storm]

Floorbang😍

Hot

[dense bone]

floorbang

[stoic breach]

I said it to my friend and she thought wallbang was a deviant activity

[dense bone]

thats normal though

[solid hinge]

[stoic breach]

[dense bone]

LOL

[soft storm]

It is

[dense bone]

shes freaky

[stoic breach]

She is

[soft storm]

You do know what a wallbang is right

[stoic breach]

Its weird

[soft storm]

😤👌

[dense bone]

im gonna ask my gf what she thinks wallbang means

[stoic breach]

vro moment

[soft storm]

Do it

Report back

[stoic breach]

yeah gun it like a champ

see what she says

[soft storm]

If she slaps you that’s good

[stoic breach]

is it doe

[soft storm]

Yeah

[dense bone]

slaps my butt

[sonic rampart]

Is there a new map?

[stoic breach]

in two weeks

[soft storm]

Mercury?

[sonic rampart]

Smh

[soft storm]

End of May or something

[stoic breach]

well this week and next

its almost the end of may

[soft storm]

Well

[stoic breach]

time really do fly

[soft storm]

We never said Dice can count

[sonic rampart]

Its prob this week right

[stoic breach]

[soft storm]

BF1 and then BFV...

[versed notch]

Isnt it like may 30

[stoic breach]

This week is for the Boys

[soft storm]

Maybe?

[stoic breach]

Next week is Mercury week

I love that name, the Boys

[soft storm]

I can’t wait to destroy mercury

[versed notch]

See if I reinstall bfv and dont uninstall it week gotcha

[stoic breach]

It's gonna be a shitty meme gun

vretheren

[soft storm]

Me and the boys stopping the blitzkrieg

[stoic breach]

Cracking open a tiger with the Boys

[solid hinge]

The boys has some godawful assignments though

[stoic breach]

Oh man oh man

[solid hinge]

First one is 1k damage with civilian vehicles or towables I think

[versed notch]

Civilian vehicles

What

[solid hinge]

You can get cars in firestorm

I guess?

[versed notch]

So we have to firestorm

Guess no boys for me

[soft storm]

There’s civilian vehicles on mercury

[solid hinge]

or they're adding a rollsroyce

[soft storm]

Apparently

[versed notch]

Hmmm interesting

[solid hinge]

That's the week after the boys

[soft storm]

Even better

[versed notch]

Guess we'll have to buy it with cc

[soft storm]

The mastery assignment includes a 6x scope for the boys

[solid hinge]

oh baby

[soft storm]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

[soft storm]

So you have to do mastery assignments to get attachments on a damn meme gun

😤👌

[robust timber]

yeah

[soft storm]

Thanks dice

[versed notch]

[dense bone]

you guys keep saying the boys reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97vmoVJCdwg

[soft storm]

ME AND THE BOYS

[solid hinge]

me and my 5 anti tank guns

I'm telling you when I get a full recon squad of boys we're gonna dent those archers SO bad

[dense bone]

god that is so cringe (the video)

[stoic breach]

Can't wait to use a 6x scope on a bipod martini henry

In the words of Zero:
What am I fighting for

[dense bone]

im in a gaming rut

[versed notch]

Fighting for a better k/d

[stoic breach]

I am fighting for a better K/D

[dense bone]

kd means poo

[stoic breach]

Almost at 14,000 kills but with 10,000 deaths because being a medic apparently doesnt matter anymore

Dont you worry

I am working on my SPM as well

[dense bone]

spm and kpm

true big brain

[midnight nimbus]

K/D = fun

[versed notch]

My kd is only 2.19

[midnight nimbus]

going sub 2-3 K/D is incredibly exhausting in BFV

[stoic breach]

Well medics on xbox are only completely useless 😔

[midnight nimbus]

you can go sub 2 in older BFs and still have fun

[dense bone]

depending on how you get kd can be "fun"

[stoic breach]

I am out here putting in the hard yards to get my stats up

[midnight nimbus]

but a lot of things about BFV make repeatedly dying just unnecessarily exhausting

[versed notch]

I go 3.2 in BF1, and it's fun killing people with stupid shit repeatedly

[dense bone]

i die a lot

and i mean a lot

i dont see how it bothers people

[versed notch]

I preferred the way I died in BF3-1 than in BFV to be fair

[solid hinge]

I get to do the lady death scream every time I die

Its great

[midnight nimbus]

you just die to so much stupid shit in BFV

[dense bone]

lol lady death scream is fun

and i love how it bothers people

[midnight nimbus]

played Black Ops 2 last night

no death i had was remotely BS

I just got outplayed every time

[solid hinge]

bs deaths are the worst theyve ever been in bfv

[dense bone]

doesnt blops have 1 hit kill afk mines and ohk snipers?

[solid hinge]

the only other game that compared was cod aw

[stoic breach]

Your Black Ops 2 experience is very different to mine

[solid hinge]

and that game was POOP

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, but BO2 mines are really fair

like

plenty of audio warning

[coral fiber]

Is it me or are fighters very unbalanced...

[midnight nimbus]

and they're fucking huge

[solid hinge]

werent bo2 mines claymores?

[midnight nimbus]

if you can't duck under them that's you're bad

[solid hinge]

i think there were claymores and betties

[midnight nimbus]

yeah betties are ez

[dense bone]

tbf as well, comparing cods game environment to bfv is dramatically different

[midnight nimbus]

claymores have huge red lasers coming out of them

[solid hinge]

betties were super easy to counter and the claymores had this massive red tripwire in front

yep

[versed notch]

Flak Jacket

[weak violet]

Hello

[dense bone]

so there should be a lot less bs in cod

[solid hinge]

there was also flack jacket and engineer perk

[dense bone]

its a simple game

[midnight nimbus]

BFV is just like

[dense bone]

i think bfv has less bs than bf1

[midnight nimbus]

nah

[dense bone]

bf1 was stupid dumb for cheap deaths

[solid hinge]

bf1 has less bs if you ask me

[stoic breach]

MW2 underbarrel and heartbeat was complete cheese

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 rubble kills don't kill you outside of the building

[solid hinge]

everything was more counterable

[midnight nimbus]

mines are ez as shit to see in BF1

[versed notch]

bf1 is less bs mate lol

[midnight nimbus]

you have plenty of counters to prone MGs

[dense bone]

elites, behemoths, overpowered vehicles, and nade spam... yea that sounds like less bs

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 vehicles are weaker than BFV

and i just play modes without elites or behemoths

[versed notch]

You can take out a heavy tank by yourself right?

[midnight nimbus]

^

[solid hinge]

everything that bfv took out, it replaced with equal parts camping and flank shots

[dense bone]

so to not get a shit load of BS just dont play modes that have that bs?

.. ok

[solid hinge]

going back to bf1 i was shocked at how infrequently i was getting shot at from the sides

[midnight nimbus]

also BFV has as much nade spam as BF1

if not more

[versed notch]

Elites are just bayonet charges lol

[dense bone]

no it doesnt

not even close

[midnight nimbus]

you can't main ATRG the same way you do the PIAT

[dense bone]

i hardly die to nades in bfv

like ever

[midnight nimbus]

BF1's explosive cooldowns are much longer

[dense bone]

bf1 nades were absolutely everywhere

[solid hinge]

the only behemoth that was annoying was the dreadnought

but it hardly did anything for the game so meh

[midnight nimbus]

in BFV you can just sit by an ammo box or depot and infinitely spam PIATs

and frag grenade launchers

[dense bone]

still die a lot less to those than nades in bf1

[weak violet]

God I love spamming Piat and frag grenades

[midnight nimbus]

it's almost as bad as BF3

[solid hinge]

at rocket gun didnt have anywhere near the versatility

[versed notch]

That's not as bad in CQ, but I can see it in Breakthrough

[midnight nimbus]

also i only play small modes in BF1

so no nade spam

[dense bone]

so you actively tried to get rid of all the bs

[midnight nimbus]

small modes in BFV are kinda trash

well, I don't care for conquest in any game

[dense bone]

conquest bf1 vs conquest bfv i easily say bfv has less bs to die from

[weak violet]

I dislike the small mods because muh PIAT spam

[solid hinge]

conquest bfv is the worst conquest

[midnight nimbus]

^

[dense bone]

you dont even play it kht

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 at least had a few tolerable maps in CQ

[solid hinge]

prolly because he quit

[dense bone]

he just said he plays small modes for both games

[midnight nimbus]

yeah I played alpha + beta and played one round of Arras CQ in BFV

that's it

[versed notch]

I also seem to find kills are more satisfying in bf1?

[midnight nimbus]

I've played every CQ map in BF1

[solid hinge]

the only v conquest map i can stand is fjell, and that's because i can just cheese with planes the entire game

[versed notch]

Fjell

[solid hinge]

fjell conquest has too many planes

badly designed map

ive never ever played fjell conquest as infantry

[midnight nimbus]

the one Arras CQ game I played was ok bc i just rep monkeyed for my friend and he just farmed the entire server to oblivion

[solid hinge]

they end up fucking around in the air and not helping

[dense bone]

says conquest sucks, says he like the worst map for conquest...

[versed notch]

Fjell could be decent if not for the planes

[solid hinge]

well yeah

because it's nothing like the other cq maps

[midnight nimbus]

well Fjell without planes or snow = Achi Baba

[solid hinge]

not really

achi baba felt more open

[midnight nimbus]

similar layout

[versed notch]

I'd rather Achi Baba tbqh

[midnight nimbus]

same

[solid hinge]

cape helles ops is so much fucking fun

[untold briar]

I like fornite

[dense bone]

as a dedicated infantry player for both bf1 and bfv and as an infantry that is anti cheap/abusive gameplay, i think bfv is way more fair

[solid hinge]

it's live right now

[green elm]

teammates blocking my way out of a bottleneck is my favourite part of battlefield

[versed notch]

Planes are hard to counter in bfv

[midnight nimbus]

well because they have no effective counter in BFV

[solid hinge]

that's part of why planes are so much more fun in 1

[versed notch]

Unless you're a decent fighter pilot yourself

[midnight nimbus]

yeah

[weak violet]

I don't think I have used planes in bf1 and bfv

[solid hinge]

it felt satisfying killing people, knowing full well if you fuck up that could be the end of it

[midnight nimbus]

but even then, fighters aren't that great

[solid hinge]

in v it's just... you dont even pay the aa any mind

just farm, and when you're tired of being tickled, dive head on and kill the aa

[versed notch]

But that's it really, from what I've heard even mobile aa is just farm infantry lmao

[midnight nimbus]

#MakeMAAGreatAgain

MAA used to farm infantry well

not anymore

[solid hinge]

the valentine aa is the best anti infantry tank lol

[midnight nimbus]

not anymore

[versed notch]

MAA in BF4 best MAA

[solid hinge]

play fortress BT with it

[midnight nimbus]

Valentine Mk8 is much better, and this is coming from a good Valentine AA player

[solid hinge]

you could just sit there on your spawn, farming anyone who dares step into your line of sight

[midnight nimbus]

VAA takes so long to kill if you aren't hitting direct impacts

[solid hinge]

the case rounds were mad but the default val AA rounds are still damn good

[midnight nimbus]

and splash dmg kinda sucks

[solid hinge]

it's still hella cheese

[midnight nimbus]

it's fun and it's cheesy, but not effective

[hoary condor]

Bayonet isn't OP, change my mind

[solid hinge]

oh yeah

where the fuck is the bayonet scream?

[versed notch]

Alot of stuff in bfv are cheese, same could be said with 3 and 4 lmao

[solid hinge]

there's no bayonet scream in bfv

it's just like

[hoary condor]

Yes there is

my bloke did yesterday

[solid hinge]

sometimes in devestation when the visibility is dirt

i would get bayonet by a guy whom i thought was just running at me

if there is then ive never ever heard it

the scream rarely bugged out in 1

even when i get 2 ft bayonet'd, i'd still hear the scream for a sec

[weak violet]

All I do when grind was out was just spam Piat and grenade launchers

It was 10/10 experience

Free random kills by firing into the enemy team

God I want Grind back

[hoary condor]

spot flares

tbh on Fortress i do

[gray glade]

i finally play sniper in BFV

why do ppl say recons are thrash?

i hear constantly how ppl say recon class is trash and stuff but i find it very useful tbh

[weak violet]

I just spam flares because I suck

[solid hinge]

The bolts are the weakest weapon class

[hoary condor]

because they assume we sit at the back of the map

[solid hinge]

Slrs are also less effective than semis

[hoary condor]

though i tend to be closer than assault and killing and helping the team more than they do

[solid hinge]

flares are mad good though

flares and beacons make up for the lackluster guns imo

[gray glade]

using high magnification scope allows for alot of 1-hit kills tho

and kar98 does 75 damage per hit

[solid hinge]

honestly

[weak violet]

I just spam flares for the easy points

[solid hinge]

sniping in this game is very easy

[hoary condor]

Fortress you can hit end to end

[solid hinge]

for all the wrong reasons of course

[weak violet]

Sniping in this game is hard

[hoary condor]

points rack up maanged to get 2k

[solid hinge]

it's easy because most players dont move

[weak violet]

Likely because I suck

[solid hinge]

and it's easy because console has tons and TONS of aim assist

bf1 scoped rifles had barely any

and head hitbox was pretty small

[gray glade]

i tried the p08 carbine, didnt play enough to bother upgrading it but man i did not like that weapon

it felt so weak

[celest lava]

is there anywhere to report cheaters on this discord?

[solid hinge]

I have not been revived once since yesterday

[drifting marsh]

your picture explains how you feel now @solid hinge

[hoary condor]

[solid hinge]

Depressed and angry

[gray glade]

dont die in da open

[hoary condor]

@celest lava i DM you

[solid hinge]

It's not that I die in the open it's just that I'm the only medic on my team

The mp28 is really nice

[hoary condor]

i really have started to enjoy the mp40 with x1.5

used it in and now cannot get enough of it

[dense bone]

mp40 best smg imo

[hoary condor]

i love it

[solid hinge]

why did they not put in the howie and willhelm scream in this game

WHY DICE

[dense bone]

because people would be crying about their "immersion"

"historical accuracy"

[drifting marsh]

@dense bone these people are worthless

[hoary condor]

and forget it's a game not a ww2 documentary

[icy sluice]

People are worthless

That's why so many games have a bunch of slaughter

[drifting marsh]

o.O

[solid hinge]

Mp40 is nice

I've been using the mp28 recently

p08 ain't weak at all

[hoary condor]

defo not i got 1 shot by it

[solid hinge]

kar has 75 damage on a body hit but it takes 4 years to cycle to the next one

[hoary condor]

i tried the Kar.. didn't like it

Gewehr M95 for me

or Enfield

[green elm]

by the time you finish cycling the k98 the war has ended

similarly, by the time the lee enfield bullet reaches the enemy the war has ended

[robust timber]

who want to play

[solid hinge]

!lfg

[junior mist]

:information_source: <> Looking for Players to play with? Head Over to the Looking For Group Channels in the (#LFG) Channel Category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[dense bone]

ive had people say the p08 is OP after i mutilated them with it

im like...

[modest prism]

Every weapon can be considered "OP" if you're good with it...people dont realize that skill > OP weapons

[dense bone]

i assume most people can differentiate what is actually op though

model 8 isnt op, but i stomp people with it

[modest prism]

yeah but the butthurt kids that cant get a kill and accuse everyone around them of cheating are the ones i was kinda targeting with that

[solid hinge]

WHAT

[dense bone]

i dont think anyone will say model 8 is op

[solid hinge]

howie scream breaks immersion?

i mean, sure

but so do all the women's screams

[formal valve]

Female screams are waaaay too over the top

[dense bone]

im far from "muh historical accuracy or immusion"

i think the girl screams are funny

[random rock]

^

[solid hinge]

howie and willhelm screams are infinitely more funny

[dense bone]

i agree, im just saying, people are definitely gonna bitch about it though

which is why its not in game

[solid hinge]

i dont think anyone said anything about it in bf1

it was just genuinely funny

[random rock]

there's something rather amusing about hearing a scream and seeing a body ragdoll past you

[formal valve]

I hate how females are implemented

Their inclusion is so forced

[solid hinge]

you know

all they couldve done

was just like

put the russians in first?

[formal valve]

Can we please keep modern day politics out of historical shooters please

[solid hinge]

if there were russians then female soldiers would've made much more sense

considering they were actually put on the front lines there

[formal valve]

Or, ya know, dont put them in at all

[midnight nimbus]

P08 Carbine shoots soooooo slow

[solid hinge]

no but at least itwouldve been believable

ye 360 rpm is crap

even 450 is kinda eh

[formal valve]

What’s sad is that there’s a small minority that defends the decision to include them

[random rock]

*wholeheartedly

[solid hinge]

tbh i find their inclusion to be insulting

[formal valve]

^

[sweet fulcrum]

Ok so basically

This Week in Battlefield when

[solid hinge]

so what? the effort that women made in ww2, besides fighting in the frontlines was inadequate?

[midnight nimbus]

450 RPM P08 Carbine would've been so sick

[formal valve]

No

They played a huge role outside of combat

I’m not downplaying their actions

[solid hinge]

i still play as women though, because i always default to females whenever i get the chance

ik you arent

it's dice that are

[formal valve]

But I do think they don’t have a place frontline combat at least in a front they weren’t on

[midnight nimbus]

I always play as a woman

[formal valve]

I’m perfectly fine with resistance fighters or Russians

[solid hinge]

at this point this game doesnt even have the base for an immersive game

the atmosphere isnt there

[formal valve]

^

[solid hinge]

women or no women, it still wouldnt be immersive

besides the atmosphere, there's ofc the cosmetics

so fuck it, just go all out

play as LEO the smiling black man

[midnight nimbus]

the maps are uninspiring at best

[solid hinge]

that's because bfv is all about dem untold storiez

[formal valve]

Yeah I mean we have Germans that wear US flight jackets and Hungarian Stalhelm fighting British soldiers wearing American Paratrooper gear and field shirts with DAK boots and Modern day gas masks

[drifting marsh]

the thing is

you can choose all white males if you want

[solid hinge]

you can also play as a sniper with a pilot outfit

[drifting marsh]

so stop complaining

[solid hinge]

and the actual pilot outfit is not even a pilot outfit?

idk what the pilot gear is, but it just looks like default gear

[dense bone]

poor dice, they gotta make a game that appeases the history buffs that can say "a strap doesnt go here" and someone like me that doesnt give a fuck about that and just wants good gameplay

[formal valve]

?

[solid hinge]

a strap doesnt go here?

[formal valve]

That’s not what I mean

[solid hinge]

it extends waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond that

[dense bone]

the other day some dude pointed out "this outfit is wrong because the strap didnt go here"

[solid hinge]

dude

[formal valve]

I’m ok if some gear is made to look more actual a appealing

[solid hinge]

the pilots dont have pilot outfits

and the infantry have pilot outfits

just

huh

[dense bone]

i get shit like that is wrong

but.. its a game

[solid hinge]

based off of a real war

[dense bone]

based

[formal valve]

But when you have BRITISH INFANTRYMEN wearing AMERICAN AIRBORNE JACKETS with DAK WEHRMACHT BOOTS and MODERN GAS MASKS.....

[dense bone]

and its a game

[solid hinge]

they couldve at least tried to sell us it was a ww2 game

[formal valve]

That’s when I kinda start asking some questions

[solid hinge]

modern gas masks

lmao

just why

[hollow blade]

good day every one
i am new and have a question
how active BF4 eu community in vc in here?

[dense bone]

as someone who isnt a history buff, i cant tell the difference

i doubt 90% of the people can look at bfv and say "yea thats not right"

[solid hinge]

you're right

everyone does

[formal valve]

The only two outfits in the game that have historical uniforms are Seamus(Royal Irish Guards) and Ernst(Luftwaffe officer:pilot)

[solid hinge]

because it's really hard to tell that this is a ww2 game

[formal valve]

The rest is either out of place or fictional

[dense bone]

bs everyone can tell

[formal valve]

Sometimes I can’t

[solid hinge]

the game seriously lacks any ww2 feel

[random rock]

Side point:

Imagine a campaign mission where you play as a wartime nurse treating the dying and the disparaged in a rundown field hospital, hearing their stories (leading into another mission piece) and sharing a joke, only for the hospital to be attacked by the germans and watch them die fighting.

[solid hinge]

see

that wouldve been dope

not really

[random rock]

instead we got Billy bridger

[solid hinge]

it wouldve been better though

[dense bone]

all im saying is dice is in a spot way harder than a lot of other devs

and people seemingly cry they are incompetent at every turn

[merry ivy]

yes they did dig themselves quite a deep hole, eh?

[formal valve]

Instead we got edgy Scandinavian teenager chick with a knife overpowering armed German infantry in Hand to hand combat

[dense bone]

dice is one of the few devs that can pull of what they do

but yea, they suck

[solid hinge]

if you're complaining a teenager can overpower people then you gotta complain about your bullet wounds that regen

[formal valve]

....

🤦

What?

[dense bone]

no ayla, they want things realistic in their perspective

[formal valve]

No no no

[dense bone]

theres a fine line where they can say its just a game vs whats realistic

[formal valve]

I’m ok if the gameplay is prioritized over realism

[solid hinge]

i wouldnt mind if nordly overpowered me

[merry ivy]

😫

[drifting marsh]

those black and females are just optional

[formal valve]

But when you have a British assault who if he wasn’t wearing a Brodie helmet, I would straight up say is a US para, that’s when I start asking questions

[dense bone]

oh lord

how could they?

[formal valve]

Dude

[solid hinge]

also ludonarrative dissonance isnt always bad

[formal valve]

I asked my friend to take a look at the default outfits and he straight up called two American airborne, asking why hey were wearing Brodie’s

[solid hinge]

the gameplay and narrative dont have be equally realistic

going by that logic, gta iv is a bad game because the story doesnt make any sense relative to the gameplay

[dense bone]

idc if you ask all your friends what they think

[formal valve]

No

I have many friends who agree with me

My guys

[dense bone]

congrats?

considering they are your friends i assume you have a lot of the same perspective/interests

[formal valve]

There is one, I repeat one uniform in this game that is what either of the factions wore

ONE

ONE

[dense bone]

again, as someone who doesnt care about that

so what?

[formal valve]

You’d be in a minority then

[merry ivy]

they could at least make more than one historical outfit

how hard would that be

[formal valve]

Yes

[dense bone]

youre trying to convince someone that wishes dice would ignore the history buffs and make a good game

[formal valve]

I partially agree with you

[merry ivy]

he’s not even talking about gameplay there

[formal valve]

I don’t agree with the people who complain that camouflage is supposed to conceal you and they don’t want visibility tweaked

[dense bone]

i personally think its petty as fuck to care about who wore what and that this is wrong, etc

[formal valve]

...

So your saying

[merry ivy]

so when can I wear a clown costume in 1940

[formal valve]

It’s petty to want a WW2 game to look like WW2?

[dense bone]

personally, i dont care

[merry ivy]

I want to be all rainbows

with a big red nose

[dense bone]

if you want a direct translation of a ww2 game bfv isnt it

[merry ivy]

pushing into France with my buddy Hans

[dense bone]

if dice wanted to make the ww2 game they made before they could

or make the ww2 that has been made many times before, they could

[formal valve]

The fuck does that mean?

[dense bone]

its their creation, they make it how they want

[formal valve]

Let me tell you something

When their creation is twisting history it’s based off of and spreading lies, that’s not ok

[dense bone]

its their product

they are not a history book

they can do what they want

[formal valve]

Yeah, there’s the issue

[warm atlas]

That seems like a bit of hyperbole.

[dense bone]

its not an issue

[formal valve]

BF1 made us think differently

[merry ivy]

BF1 at least tried to teach some things

[dense bone]

that was dices decision for bf1

[graceful prairie]

what did bf1 teach

lmao

[dense bone]

doesnt mean bfv has to follow that

[formal valve]

Oh fffs

I’m done with this

[warm atlas]

Yeah. In its codexes. But gameplay it didn’t teach much really. Lol

[dense bone]

you just sound entitled to what you want/expected

[formal valve]

I’m not wasting my time with someone who can’t accept the truth

[versed notch]

Codex actually taught you some stuff no?

[merry ivy]

and the loading screen too

and the battles there actually happened

[warm atlas]

BF1 was very far off map/gameplay wise.

[merry ivy]

British troops in Netherlands? lmao

[hoary condor]

if it was 100% accurate the game wouldn't be playable. It would be hardcore mode for every game mode

either play it or don't...

[dense bone]

cant accept the truth, yet you cant accept that what they do with their game is to their own will

[hoary condor]

Leave the negativity out

[formal valve]

I won’t accept that

Because it’s twisting history

[dense bone]

so you wont accept the truth...

[formal valve]

No, I refuse to accept lies

[dense bone]

call it wrong or immoral sure

but its their product, they decide what they do with it

thats the truth

its simple

you either support it or not

[formal valve]

I don’t support the message they are pushing

[dense bone]

if you dont support it i dont get coming to a random chat to try to convince everyone on your views how its so bad

[warm atlas]

I don’t think it’s as serious as you’re making it out to be. I don’t think people play Battlefield V and think that it’s how WW2 was. That’s just absurd.

[dense bone]

^

[solid hinge]

What are we talking about

[formal valve]

Well you see

[hoary condor]

Luke.. i wouldn't get involved...

[dense bone]

and the people that take media as a form of truth are morons and cant be helped

[formal valve]

They have multiple battles in this game which are really unknown. So they use that to twist it and change how it happened

[dense bone]

🤷

[graceful prairie]

brb learning for my history exam by playing bf5

[formal valve]

Hannut is just lies in BFV

Everything about it is wrong

[dense bone]

oh damn, im gonna fail my history exam because of bfv...

[formal valve]

The only battle in the entire game that is portrayed somewhat accurately is Arras

So now your resorting to insulting my points

[dense bone]

i got a lot of hours on that map, im gonna ace that part of the exam

[graceful prairie]

youre acting like you were there

[formal valve]

And that folks, is how you know you’ve won an arguement

[warm atlas]

Devastation?

[formal valve]

When they start to insult you

No

[hoary condor]

Take this to DMs... this is painful to look at

[dense bone]

lol you think thats an insult?

[formal valve]

Using my points and making jokes of them

You were insulting my arguement

[dense bone]

its only in light of a joke to show how silly your points are

[graceful prairie]

you dont have a point youre saying that a game is historical facts

[formal valve]

....

I’ve been saying the opposite my guy

Pay attention

[dense bone]

dont use his comment and apply it to everyone else

[formal valve]

What?

Who are you directing this towards?

[dense bone]

dont know how to say that sentence any simpler

[hoary condor]

Best medic gun?

[ivory geyser]

[dense bone]

mp40

[weak violet]

What is going on here

[hoary condor]

with/without scope?

[solid hinge]

STEN

[weak violet]

Also MP28 is best medic gun smh

[dense bone]

@weak violet history buff mad that bfv isnt a history book

[hoary condor]

mp28 is good, haven't used it in game tbh

[formal valve]

I’m not

I’m mad it spouts lies and fiction

[weak violet]

@dense bone Lmao so its those types

[formal valve]

@weak violet no, no it isn’t

[weak violet]

Its a fucking game don't expect it to be accurate

[formal valve]

I’m complaining about aesthetic

[dense bone]

lol, "i dont hate it, i just dont like anything about it"

[weak violet]

[graceful prairie]

a e s t h e t ic

[formal valve]

Ffs....

I can’t deal with these types of people anymore

[graceful prairie]

youre welcome to leave

[dense bone]

people that dont agree with you?

[formal valve]

The ones that just lie down and accept this propaganda

[ivory geyser]

Yeah, let's cut this out here

Thanks

[formal valve]

I’m fine with people disagreeing with me

[weak violet]

"Propaganda is useless"

[formal valve]

Makes for good discussion

[dense bone]

i just see it for what it is, a game inspired by events

[fathom pebble]

Cool idea

[dense bone]

bfv isnt sold as a historically accurate game

[weak violet]

I mean I don't really care much about it

[dense bone]

why would i expect that from it?

[weak violet]

Don't really play BFV anymore

[fathom pebble]

If they bring the elite again

Make them only have the mmgs have

[rough river]

I play a game if its fun to play

[fathom pebble]

And remove them from support

[rough river]

Simple

[fathom pebble]

[weak violet]

I don't enjoy BFV so I stopped playing it

[rough river]

Good for you i guess

[formal valve]

Man. Never thought I’d say this but Cod WW2 is more accurate than BFV

[rough river]

[dense bone]

didnt cod ww2 have black female nazis?

[weak violet]

Nice.. does not really matter

[formal valve]

Yes

[hoary condor]

it took me awhile to get into Fortress, but it's good

[fathom pebble]

Lol

[formal valve]

At least it had accurate uniforms

[weak violet]

I miss grind

[weak jolt]

Battlefield was never meant to be accurate

[formal valve]

And a non SJW propaganda campaign

[solid hinge]

cod ww2 black female nazis

[weak violet]

Bruh

[solid hinge]

hahahahahaha i remember that

[dense bone]

black female nazis is more realistic than inaccurate uniform...

[formal valve]

No

Where are you getting this?

[weak violet]

This chat is going nowhere

[dense bone]

thats literally what you just said

[weak jolt]

Battlefield isn't a military simulator or history game
It's inspired by real events but not a retelling of them

[weak violet]

Just stop lmao

[formal valve]

When have I said I’m ok with that

Jesus Christ

[hoary condor]

Move it to DM.. nobody wants to listen to this

[dense bone]

you just said cod ww2 is more realistic and agreed it has black female nazis then said at least cod had realistic uniforms...

[hoary condor]

or read it...

[ivory geyser]

I've asked you all to cut it out once, will not ask you the 3rd time. Take a deep breath and move on.

[formal valve]

Never said I agreed with it

But whatever

[weak violet]

Cali about to get his 🔨

[formal valve]

I’m leaving anyways

[weak jolt]

Bye

[weak violet]

Nice

[weak jolt]

Go now

[formal valve]

I won’t debate with people who lie down and accept propaganda m

[graceful prairie]

go watch some documentaries about ww2 on youtube

porlyl all you do

[formal valve]

@weak jolt uh, piss off buddy

[weak violet]

Cali would you mind

[weak jolt]

Time to go

[ivory geyser]

!mute @formal valve

[junior mist]

:ok_hand: Iambattlefield#3571 is now muted

[weak violet]

🔨 him

Good job

10/10

[solid hinge]

Whattts going on

[weak violet]

Best mod

😘

[ivory geyser]

No need for you to add your comments as well, yeah? @weak jolt

[weak jolt]

Sorry I was trolling him a bit

My bad

[solid hinge]

buff the commando

[hoary condor]

don't... just adding to it

[solid hinge]

Mp28 is nice what about emp or mp34 or zk

[weak violet]

!cat

reee

[hoary condor]

mp40 with x1.5 is fun to use

[weak jolt]

I like iron sights

I play worse with irons though

[hoary condor]

Never get alone with iron sights

even more so on slrs

or bolts

[weak jolt]

Iron sight sniper is a hard way to play yeah

[solid hinge]

Re

[warm atlas]

ZK is dabest

[hoary condor]

defo.. rather chuck a x6 on it

[warm atlas]

I love my low ROF cannons.

[solid hinge]

Ok so.... zk or mp28 or emp or mp34 or mp40 or sten

[hoary condor]

mp40 > stern

sten

[solid hinge]

Stern

[warm atlas]

ZK>everything. But I do love using the MP40 just because it’s the MP40

[weak violet]

MP40 has no recoil

[hoary condor]

ZK i used on ... didn't like it.. got kills with it but not my sort of gun

i need bolt or mp40/Ribeyrolle

[solid hinge]

[warm atlas]

The ZK ain’t in Firestorm?

[hoary condor]

think it is, unless i have it mixed up with another gun

[solid hinge]

He meant the %°

ZH

the sniper

[hoary condor]

yeah lkol

[rough river]

Zk is op

Lol

[hoary condor]

dam i cannot even ttype

[warm atlas]

Oh, yeah. The ZK is the SMG with the bipod

[solid hinge]

Ribey is amazing

[warm atlas]

I need to use the Ribey more.

[solid hinge]

I only play medic tho

Field medic 😎

[warm atlas]

I play all classes except scout mostly.

But support is my main

[hoary condor]

i used scout - medic - assault

depending on if i'm attacking or defending

[graceful prairie]

mmg on attack is lit doh

[hoary condor]

Piat helps clear enemy fortifications

[solid hinge]

Scout po8 is fun

So is assault

All of assault

[hoary condor]

Gewehr M95

[graceful prairie]

ill gold the boys if its out

100%

[solid hinge]

Best semi auto?

[hoary condor]

Gewehr M95 - Mp40 x1.5 - Riberyrolle

[pastel lion]

I usually don't play scout, I only grinded it for cosmetics. I really enjoy iron sight scout with the rifles, especially the M95

[solid hinge]

Do I use semi auto or ribey

[graceful prairie]

yeah but the cosmetics are sjw propaganda

[solid hinge]

ross with iron sights is actually kinda viable

[green elm]

the iron sights aren’t shit either

[pastel lion]

Yes

[solid hinge]

mind that i say

kinda

[marble phoenix]

a little bird telling me, that DICE is raising the rank cap?

[hoary condor]

iron sights on assault is ok