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@solid hinge go to the LFG channels. maybe you'll find some other sad souls who enjoy bf1
@solid hinge where you from? in regards to servers
isreal
hmmm..im from AUS so ill give that a hard pass...sorry
lol
oh
@shut cipher hahah
EA: I will like to inform you that this issue is under the eyes of our tech team and they are working on it and it will take some time to restore. Do not worry sit back and relax as there is no problem with your game or account.
while were on topic... anyone else from aus/nz
found that on there fourms
@deft geode lazarbeam muslek craytor loseafuit aussy gang
no idea what that is haha
ill google it
you should chack out lazarbeam
duos anyone
bf5
servers are down
^
i started streaming, find it to hard...i forget im streaming and dont talk @solid hinge haha
are the servers still dead
tfw
@deft geode can you say it again with more understandable words pls
thinks he is high lol
ya me too
i wish
are the servers still down?
explain this combintion of words
lol amd back on the servers guys
never mind lol it kicked me off fuck sake
@solid hinge sorry might of been to aussie...
i started a twitch channel, i found it very hard to get followers...half of the time i forgot that i was streaming whilst i was playing and i wouldnt engage with my viewers
damn it i wanna play
I cant get on to any bf game
for real?
bf1 is working
ya for me too
bf4 has problems
i didnt chack
lol
Hmm its 1.5 hours and its seems still down
maybe they're fixing something
we'll be waiting a while haha
awful
I guess it’s happening to everyone then
yeah. i can get on the game just cant find a game
Wanted to gun down a bunch of people as Ernst

New map as compensation
EA won’t give us free boins 
Is already coming
I think Aerial Dogfights are confirmed
or both at the same time
servers down?
ya im sure but we need it right now and not at the end of the year ffs
I wish there was a tank only game type imagine 32v32 all tanks on panzerstorm
tank v tank can be really cool
Shit would be chaos
it was really cool in bf3
without any asault shitting at your tank yea i would love it
Look at the colors in this vid
rising up
😩
back on the street
BFV used to be grey as fuck
could be would be nice hating to get killed by a camping mmg in davastation
Especially when they camp in the rubble under the windows
or take alot
MAB38
spagheti cannon
wich one?
I think its called Breda
only brits and germs
constantly adding weapons that are anything but
Beretta 38
nice
Looks like fedrov avtomat
looks like a disabled suomi
Need the M1 Garand asap
In the Fall
Early october
The Giant Awakes
need an actually new operation
would be nice to have german u boots in bfv
Battle of Crete when Mercury drops
wouldve preferred waiting for the new map to get another operation :(
the panzerstorm operation is the only one that's actually kind of different to just 3 different game modes mashed together
most of the operations are lame
true
yeah but its obvsly two maps that were already there
The hamada operation is awful
kinda shit that they didnt just wait till the second map dropped
^
Game not working for anyone on PS4?
yeah server issues atm
I ain't waiting even longer for more maps
Le
Everyone
all platform server down
lame
Imagine if panzerstorm hadn't released until mercury
In the THIS IS BFV video they said that greece is coming early 2019 and they showed us the stug,the vgo and the sjorgen,the game launched without these guns
People would be mental

fuck these game
lol
for sure drop the map asap, but wait until theres 2 or 3 new maps to make an op out of it
ya operation
L3/35 gives tigers nightmares
@solid hinge you can play the war stories 
is the servers okay now?
war stories is good
Nope
I get the feeling maybe mercury wouldn't go so well with following up panzerstorm in an op
Fucking bridger
I like the Finnish mission
I AM BILLY
With the heavy water plant
Norway
FUCKING
maybe not, gonna be ass when its next to some other op maps tho
Norway
You did what?
SON OF ARFUR FUCKIN BRIJER
stops car
i hope mercury has a boat in
naval combat would be kinda cool
Still waiting for tank/plane superiority
You really want either of those with current vehicle combat?

Ofc not
But one day
that made me laugh
Why do we have like uhhh,10 types of shells in the game
I can definitely agree with that
BF1 was simple as fuck
Almost all those shells could just be called AP rounds
AT cannon
Normal cannon
Yeah
Hesh is the only one that's like.. inbetween
and the tigers heat rounds
The rest are just AP
How to save BFV tanks
BF4 style customization
We dont need 10k shells,this isnt wt
I noticed with the detail update to vehicle specs, they have secondary weapons listed on all of them
but it's exactly the same for every tank
Yea
Thats not true
Tiger has a trash mg
I hope theres a spec to make it a hmg or something on one
They do have different stats right? The mgs feel different at least
Im bouta write a bible,gimme a sec
Yes please
should i play bf1 in PS4?
i haven't play for 5 days
1ST OPTION.
AT cannon (more dmg to vehicles,faster velocity,less splash dmg,slower rof)
NORMAL cannon (less dmg to vehicles,slower velocity,more splash dmg,faster rof)
2ND OPTION
HMG (slow rof,higher dmg)
MMG (fast rof,lower dmg)
PERK 1 (track repair or fast repair)
PERK2 (smoke launcher,spotflare launcher,fire bomb launcher,normal smoke)
PERK 3 (Faster turret speed, Engine buff, Turret tracks buff, S mine / snake launcher)
bf5 still down?
i have 52-15
bf1 was fun, only got 2 days game played.. bfv i have 5 already 
since i didn't playing
@solid hinge
Idk where to put s mine launcher or snake launcher

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tmw you have 2,110 Dogtags taken
IS THE SERVERS STILL DOWN
Yes, unfortunately
Let's just say the devs are doing something
No
why
We don't control anything with the game
👀
I am so proud of myself.
Is it me or does the STG44 feel like it's gotten better from this update?
@solid hinge perk 3 maybe? Would match the potential 3 slots there is
Oh right
Perk 3 could be uhh
are the server back up
I've seen a few people say the stg got worse
Ayla, that's for Dogtags taken
just now
okay
Faster turret speed
Engine buff
Turret tracks buff
S mine / snake launcher
What's your xbox gamer tag, Ayla?
I was using the ribey and it was noticeably less accurate
holy shit that's a lot of tags
@icy sluice ayla's on ps4
are the servers down for update
Ah, still, what's the name?
OOF
It's not that many tags tbf
servers are back up
1000 tags isn't that many
It says you only got 400? o.o
ITS AT LEAST 470
mine's at only 703
Talking about most dogtags taken
pls PING me when servers get back to lazy to refresh twitter
Yes
@stuck plaza servers are back
I've lost more melees than had successful ones
Out of all the things to be in the top 100, Dogtags Taken
I haven’t stabbed a lot of people in V
fuck yes thanks @deft geode
I'm still in the top 0.4%!
I miss having better stats for melee, like which knife you're top in the world with
Server's are really back
woo
xbox server down or something? I can't see armory, trial by fire etc
@solid hinge i updated the spec list, gimme ur opinon

@tame bridge give it a few minutes then restart

caould i join anyone?
okay
anyone from oceania?
Anyone from Asia?
sure would be neat if i could connect
I contacted ea support yesterday,made friends with the guy and we might play bfv together lmfao
way to break everything with this release
@solid hinge that's a solid perk list
I like it
Epic,now time to put it on reddit,get -5 likes,and killed
Of course!
Maybe I should put my hitreg recording on reddit
A fiew days ago i said, AA tanks are worthless and need a buff,got -2 likes
with all the quick repairs and dmg reduction you almost need 2 AA to take down bombers
I tend to randomly crash every now and then when I search a game. It's so rare but still
That's some old shiz
Also STUKA B-2 37MM NERF AGAINST PLANES
Way back in the day
Server are back online guys
WE NEED IT
The cannon is still terrifying
The 37mm has to be great against infantry and tanks,not against planes ffs
no
In the Firestorm trailer,all vehicles are black
In game, no
I'd prefer it if it was good solely against tanks
@random rock whats your perfect balance mr jesus?
or like.. it hurts a plane if you manage to hit somewhere vital or something
Yea but have you seen the real life vids of it?
not "blap blap Haha dead"
Not to mention how great the back gunners are

exactly!
Oh I don't have one, it's just that a 37mm gun doesn't seem particularly effective against the thick armour of a tiger, valentine or you know, heavier tanks.
Its already a pretty small target
37mm rarely attacks the tiger
Cuz its your teams tank
And it has to be stolen
It should be good against medium tanks and lower
The 37mm on the light tanks is shit vs armour but the stuka 37mms shoot sticky dynamite it feels
Meta strategy for the 37mm Staghound is to do a huge flank around the vehicle and use the tulip dumbfire rockets
like, it's going to be a shredder against infantry if its firing HE, soft-skin vehicles, and light-armour tanks. How do you make it so that the player doesn't just shred planes too?
The big cannons on the mosquito and JU-88 C shoot HE but do even more damage to tanks
They have weird balancing with it
the stukas have small blast radius at least
Tulip stags used to rule the battlefield
now they're pretty risky
Honestly it might be best to just keep the fact it can shred a plane there, but increase the need to lead the shot.
That could work
Lower velocity is okay cause you're in the air
Ground targets dont move too much, you can hit them even with lower velocities
exactly, only issue is whether that's enough
I'm not sure whether I want to agree, but I do
The visibility update! Maybe you'll be able to actually see ground troops
i cant find a conquest game wth
never does
Fighter pilots never attack infantry
combined arms matchmaking is borked, the servers were down until a short while ago so might take a while to fill up
BORKed
Lol
The mgs shoot really damn fast it's just super hard to hit anyone on the ground
you say that but the pilots on Fjell seem pretty adament they can mg me down
@solid hinge I wonder why fighter pilots dont attack infantry 🤔
I've done like 10 minute strafing runs and literally got about 5 hits on people
I just cant see anyone
Cuz the games vehicle balance is trash
there have been times where I've got the odd kill from a strafe run, but you mostly damage or suppres them.
Thats the one
Suppression is the biggest part
I rarely even get damage though
I literally cant see ground targets
It's like they havent rendered in
Eat more carrots 
THAT'S THE BRIGHT SIDE
I never said I could either, I just blindfire their tracers and muzzle flashes

I chased a tracer on fjell for AGES once really really carefully looking for the origin, had to pull up eventually because I was gonna crash and as I pulled up, two people literally rendered in on the snow
the people who were making the tracers I was tracking
spotting flares.
i was looking for them for a solid 10 seconds
and they weren't even on my screen
like I cant hit what i literally cant see
as a rule if you see the tracer, spray down to find it's origin by getting the suppression off
I use fighter flares but they dont hang around long enough for you to utilize them
I miss bf1's photograph spotting mechanic. That was broken as hell for bombers
oh no wonder
Servers still busted?
no
Germans have 3/4 planes that can photograph spot
they live
British have 1 and it's the worst plane in the game
not many servers up tho
oooooffff
Listen here
We r no longer friends
I'm listening o master of 8 x 50lb bombs


And the HE .50 CALL
THAT USED TO BE A WING MOUNTED HMG
IT WAS A JOKE
Now its no longer wing mounted
and it has explosive rounds!
Its in the cabin
so its... a worse version of mingenshoss
On a bomber instead of a fighter

Hmmmm
Idk
It is the worst plane in the game,but its not bad
It might actually have better stats than mingen
Has the same icon

nah doesnt have the same
The 20mm on the bf 109 g-2 have the same icon as the 37mm for the stuka
server fixed?

2 hours btw
yh
and i just bought seamus and can not try it now
it sort of works

hey its personal reference
Someone who isnt british or german
Boys-AT rifle <<<<<<< PTRS-41
That french partisan is looking quite nice
I’d save my boins for that
Crack a cold one with the Bois
New tanks when
While destroying tanks
Prolly never
Theres the bishop and the hummel in the files
Yup
There are many things in the files
Have been since launch
same way as bf1
Hummel is a ferdinand as well innit
wtf is wrong with this game matchmaking
So, someone has 477 rounds played in this game but has 2,862 dogtags taken, what the fuck?
I honestly don't want arty in the game
I do
@icy sluice could be either their really spamming the bayonet / medic combo, or they've boosted or something.
I'd say it's possible
so I'd rather not doubt their abilities
Might have all been tdm or dom
tdm and dom are great for melee
so revolver still best pistol it seems
How insane are you to get that much melee kills
Top 30'th person's name is -_SOLVEIGKNIFE_-
there's no reason using other pistol
not very.
heh
repetierpistole tho
I use 1912 as a finisher pistol
fancy
Revolver if I have something like a bolt
it's annoying but it looks good
Game still down?
just spamfire the lot out then reload
u need 5 hit on body with repestiole
It's 4 hit ain't it?
i have liberator as finisher
so 2 other bullet is useless
they're for missing
yep u can not kill the second guy with only 3 bullet
when u already kill the first one with 5 bullet
I'm pretty sure its 4 shot
FUCK I CANT FIND A CONQUEST GAME
..maybe
now i have to play war stories
good night everyone 
if its 4 shot i will change from revolver to that
servers are still experiencing issues btw, Night
the firerate is faster
I think it's five
should be winning against revolver
I dont really use it for more than one person
if its 5 im stick with revolver
hold on, I'll look it up
If you finish someone and kill someone else from max, even if it's a 5 hit kill it should be enough
thats why revolver still better but like i said before if its 4 hit i will change to repertstiole
But if I've got them down to one then I can spam hipfire with 1912
5
revolver is best pocket primary
1912 is best emergency finisher
I find it easier to melee finish the second guy if there's two ppl in cqc with the 1912
I guess the recoil boosts it up to be a headshot? I genuinely thought it was a 4 shot
Revolver and 1912 have the best range of all the secondaries right
it's weird
anyways 1912 is pretty OP in bf1
servers are back?
sort of
finishing i c, actually why i ask is because i want to play that trombone weapon but revolver is kinda tiring me out
If I've done 99 damage and then ran out of bullets on my main gun I'd rather have something I can spam than the webley
But if I'm using a bolt or something then I'd prefer the webley
or if you're like me and cant aim, spamfire into knife
webley has a nice hipfire into instant heavy melee kill
yh but the takedown range gets me killed well too often
can someone help me out with a thing
ok
I dont get my weapons and stuff as rewards for leveling up in assault class since rank 10
Majority of my melees bug so often that I just slap them and they die instead of the execution animation
this is a known issue
@lunar plover lots of people have been reporting that this patch, looks like they broke it
oof
sometimes u want that animation to show dominance
so I guess I have to wait
Looks like it
until they fix it
oh wait this lever pipe melee weapon from seamus got same animation like melee in bf1
I hate that Ayla, when I hit some prone camper in the chest with my shovel it often bounces off and does 50 to him, killing me. The knife often goes straight into animation and makes them very salty
forgot what its called
club animation?
oh yep
maybe I'll take the knife just so the fucking animations stop breaking
i dont have that cricket bat is that got same animation
literally over half of my melees dont go into an execution
serously, try the knife
solveig?
any
the jack and the scout have same animations
u need stab 4 times with that!
not if you stab them when their prone or in the back
i need hit guy with 1 hit pistol and maul/stab them
Are the servers up?
if i hit them with 1 hit i will need 2 stab with that jack knifes
yes and no, servers are a bit wonky for joining games rn
knife if you want consistent takedowns/dogtags
club if you're weird and want a bad middle ground
heavy if you want to thunk ppl to death or enjoy the takedown
also unrelated note: after consecutive headshots with the trombone, your character starts to count the headshots
There should not be a difference between melee weapons
Especially since it doesn't show stats
We are just left to assume things
I kind of think so
some1 tell BFV devs that UI is broken in xbox
they have a larger takedown range
not just angle, they literally have a greater reach
@tame bridge howis it broken now 
Not really
I'm referring to takedown range btw, the actual radial distance from you to the enemy
Yeah I said angle
@random rock Yes correxct.
coupe coupe -> all
angle is different, that's due to positioning
Not angle..
does the melee weapons deal the same damage?
no
@silent thicket no
Nope
I dont believe it Raptor
Heavies deal like 53 or something
think*
oke
25 knife, something silly for clubs, 55 heavies
animation time is very different too
Animation time depends on angle.
coupe coupe is fast as hell
Melee weapons are pathetic in this game
everything about them is terrible
same
I'M REALLy enjoying bf1
do you think it will be possible to hipfire the 🅱oys AT
Maybe
I don't get why we can't have BF4 melee
But the fact that I keep stuttering is really off putting
@sweet fulcrum LMAO
blood in a ww2 game no we can't have that 
what?
Fuck
for that matter.
I don't think you will be able to ADS without the bipod
PS5 coming in 2020
What class?
New gta and new bf with it
So sad
There should be experimental weapons that are not accurate like that one BF4 dlc 
It would be interesting if you could hipfire with the AT rifles, but they trigger the same animation as being near a V1 explosion
I cant buy it for like 2 more years
Think about it
Lol so good
That would be crazy OP @sweet fulcrum
u get knocked down @sweet fulcrum
It would be great
dang so good
Yeah but for a couple second after you wouldn't be able to react
Contact devs lol
finally trying out the practice range !
It sucks
how do i roll on xbox?
I'm convinced the DICE users in here are fake, let
us all mass ping them.........not me though

go ahead.........nothings gonna happen 
Nah, I don't wanna be 🅱anned
I do
they make comments from time to time
So this is weird. I have speakers connected on my sound port, whenever i wanna play Battlefield a game i connect headphones via USB so i always get the sound there instead of the speakers then, works fine. But VOIP plays on speakers instead of headphones
@serene patrol don't do that...
why does VOIP only play on sound port?
@gray glade likely because USB sound is useful for connecting to stereo sets while you can plug headphones into their port to get voip seperately
but this is the only game that this happens on
and it only started after this last patch
1-2 patches ago when i used VOIP last it was on my headphones
alright I have no idea then.
yeah me neither
because controllers are shit quality
Every controller I've had has done that. Usually it's only a few months until I start having issues
Even with my $200 Xbox elite controller. What a joke.
Xbox One controllers have such garbage build quality, especially with the accessory port and headphone jack
Still love it, though, but holy shit are they awful. My Xbox 360 controllers never broke
The triggers are better on the xbox one controller, if they werent I'd probably be still using the xbox 360 controller
I usually have stick drift within a yr
Xbox 360 controller feels like crap but they are better quality
When you hold it, it feels like crap I mean
my 360 controller stil going strong, but has much less play time on it
Dualshock 3 is so stiff
dualshock 4 is like so much better it's a joke
yeah thats what you get, conquest ftw
what's the roll button now? on controller
Its the crouch button
oh
There is no rolling in this game except when you jump out a window
You're talking about sliding
U w0t mate ?
Rolling.Like from when you jump from a height you can hold X or C(on PC) and then you take almost or no fall damage.
oh no to perform the roll when falling because it's not automatic anymore right
so square for ps4
and holding it
ok
Yeah
No, for ps4 it is the crouch button which is O not square
oh ok
I think. Test it
we'll see next time
being crouched when falling makes you roll I think
never knew that
yeah,happend to me last night...
Same for 2 other challenges
3 assignments finished in 1 game,could not fetch your report,all lost
servers back live?
dunno
I think
no official announcement yet
on #game-news
my bad lol
xd
didn't get a highlight for the edit,so didn't notice
Is ea down
ok
Thanks
700 Kills on Command Carbine
dafuq
I don't think I could do that
I don't think I could get 50 commando kills
thing is a fucking pain
I have no idea how the fuck I got the Commando Carbine to lvl 5
well i love weapons that are a fucking pain
I never play suomi because its too easy
It was lvl 5 when I got it
I got it on lvl 10
4.5 here
I love you DICE.
but i havent got any camo for it
idk if itll unlock but maybe ill never get it
I think I just ran through a literal field of ap mines
nah, team destruction
it's for antisocial medics anyways 
That's even worse!
heard the first two and thought gg, then a third, and a fourth and so on.
I want my entitled 50k xp or whatever
It looks like a last resort more than an actual nade launcher
self destruct option lul
55 damage?
that's enough for an instant heavy melee

run into room, shoot grenade at floor, stab in the leg
if you're in nade launcher range, you're not in melee range
success
20m arm distance
could do the same with the cc
It has no grenade!
oh i forgto
has the silencer instead
just let cc shoot a grenade instead of a bullet
which shouldn't be on medic at all
problem solved
who's bright idea was it to give a fucking silenced weapon to medic
I'm on 65 million molotov kills
silencer is bit useless cause of killcam imo
Ops on new gun?
it's not silenced it's suppressed 
well you can at least in theory get 32 kills until the enemies respawn and kill you then
I think the idea is you breeze through with a quick quiet flank, but medic should be with teammates
trombone is good, if a little annoying, sniper
who dont have silenced weapons
there is no such thing as silenced weapons
Bayonet on trombone would be nice
its not suppressed its oppressed
I'll oppress you
it's pretty silent imo
carbines are for lazy antisocial medic campers ! 


@untold cliff 1 company coin
boin
pls just give it to me
1
im busy as f rn
I'll pay you one company coin to fuck off
i think its more like a safe which gives you like 1000 coins or so
just because you were born to think means you should say that dumb shit
now tell me tow pls
lmao what you actually expected a straight answer from discord @untold cliff
it will be like -1 to what you need to buy for the cheapest thing 
@shut cipher lol its a loaded gun
the reward is a full auto shotgun called the trombocino
thats kinda sexy

medic got a full auto at rifle called the girls at rifle
Is the new weapon good? I don't really have the motivation to play this game lul
Yes
so its trash
id rather play shotgun and suomi 24/7
does it have slugz
It's probably the best bolt action but it's on medic
hello everyone
I haven't used it enough to determine it's value
hello b
@untold cliff it's not actually a shotgun it's a bolt action sniper
admin can you make me a bot?
But the Grenade Launcher sucks ass
a wot

Direct hits won't kill
the nade launcher sucks but its medics only method of damaging tanks
interrupt repair
It does kinda good damage on tanks considering what it is
f
not dmg lul
man im so bloody hyped for the Big Boys AT Rifle ting
^
It should do actual damage with the improved grenade spec
It won't deal too much tank damage I assume
its gonna be a nightmare
if they ever fix it
It does do damage
shitty piat accuracy won't be a problem when you use a rifle rather a piat
I did do 15 damage on a PZ IV
Piat is accurate!
this weird mortar feature seems bugged i think
It's an accurate one if you stand still
trying to use it for its intended purpose is like firing nerf darts at a bird
The map mortar function doesn't take into account different height levels
there was a tank marked on minimap and the circle was right over it and i didnt do damage
Nerf darts could kill a bird
oh
it assumes the location you're firing at is exactly level with you
your analogy sucks
its because its accuracy is absolute ass
well that sucks
It's really accurate though
lol sanitater
why couldnt the brits programm a better map for their piat
Yeah it doesn't do all the work for you.
The mortar indicator doesn't account for dips in the terrain @graceful prairie
It's really accurate if you're ground level and you're using the indicator
the mortar indicator needs to be fixed smh
Going out with the
Naw dude I'm with my BOYS!!!
It loses accuracy fast if you move or dont aim though
HELL YEA
bois anti tank rifle
Piat actually requires standing still to shoot accurately
unlike anything else in the game
lol
I hate that I am trying to find the source of the meme but I can only find the meme where it has porn in it, so I can't really link it here
oof
lmao
tfw porn ruins your memes
aaaaAA
My main is a piat rifle 👀
dont talk about my boys
filthy
Mmm matchmaking into Aerodrome how much I missed this map 
nut
holy shit
🅱eter is in pain
im gonna be able to shoot all those camping tanks on aerodrome
sänitater
with the boys
suffering
for 5 damage
Attention all Battlefield Discord members.
5 damage, 3 sec reload
🅱eter is in danger
gonna go invade Germany with the boys u coming?
gl
One of the boys specs is reduced vertical recoil
Imagine a squad of 4 snipers using the boys rifle against tanks
On a gun with a 23 fire rate
do a lot of damage with the tromboncino side grenade
rapid fire bruh moment

does 5 damage every time
@solid hinge but why tho, 24 rpm
its gonna be AT memes from BF1

Goodluck doing that
@scenic beacon that's a good fuckin question
Hi mmg 
Does the Boys Rifle have a bolt?
the boys never have a bolt
i do too
It keeps stops working
it has apcr rounds as a spec too
bowling alley
the boys perfect for anything
I assume the reason why it has a spec for recoil that you don't have to look away to pull the bolt
the boys can also punch watermelon sized holes in the enemie's torso from 100 meters out
bring the boys
I assume they trade the blast damage for additional impact? Might make the gun worse vs infantry but better vs tanks
or it might boost it's one hit range for infantry
i'd say probably better against tanks
Ayla just because it has a small blast doesn't mean im not going to use that thing to shoot my inlaws
tfw no bayonet for the boys
T-T
or so it doesn't recoil as much. sounds strange till you realise there's a hipfire spec for the trombone @icy sluice
The AP rounds for the 20mm on the stag were best vs infantry
20mm was frequently like a 3 or 4 shot on an infantry
The AP for the 20mm are REALLY accurate and do like 65 infantry damage a shot
gives the boys case rounds
it's like having a full auto ZH
the boys will probably act like a MMG


