battlefield-legacy-titles

[rocky verge]

[barren nymph]

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does this work

[scenic beacon]

yep

[barren nymph]

great

[rocky verge]

Time to be a speedy support with fg42

[barren nymph]

please fix Michael

[shrewd grove]

I always use Jacob for my allies

At least for my medic and support

[barren nymph]

wait who's jacob lemme see

[scenic beacon]

i play christian and gunter only

[barren nymph]

Yeah Christian

Frank is cool too

[sweet fulcrum]

Stanley >>>>>>>> all

[icy sluice]

Stanley and Gunther are my recons

[barren nymph]

Aren't Stanley and Gunter the same

[icy sluice]

Sometimes play as Eva or Rose

[sweet fulcrum]

the same for different factions

gunther is the axis stanley

[icy sluice]

Or Elisabeth, I forget

[solid hinge]

Christian is fucking ugly

[icy sluice]

Got that good goatee

[sweet fulcrum]

[rocky verge]

@icy sluice Gunter is my assault

[barren nymph]

I'd show you my company but don't want to spend time linking it

[icy sluice]

Frank is my German assault

[rocky verge]

And there Peter Muller and kurt

Leo assault Gunter medic Frank support and Peter recon

[sterile ledge]

hey cousins

[barren nymph]

For some reason I only have black characters in my allies company

[rocky verge]

Leo is my fav

[sterile ledge]

helmut best

and christian best

[hushed mesa]

MONIKA is the best waifu

[sterile ledge]

very good jawline

no monika

we want sharapova

no russian female

[rocky verge]

All guys for allies and axis

[barren nymph]

Let's talk about the worst though

[sterile ledge]

yes

capitalism worst

[stoic breach]

The asian woman doesnt look right

Nor does the asian man

[sterile ledge]

capitalism very bad

communism very good

[barren nymph]

Yeah I don't know what's wrong with those

[sterile ledge]

what ARE THOOOSE

[barren nymph]

Ingrid

[sterile ledge]

monika

hey hey monika hey monika

[tiny nebula]

eyy

[solid hinge]

Anyone wanna see my tacticool soldier

[sterile ledge]

is the bar gonna be a deluxe edition exclusive?

[solid hinge]

Yeah only alcohol to those who paid extra

[sterile ledge]

no way to unlock it?

[solid hinge]

is BFV worth getting on PC? since its on sale

[warm atlas]

Sure. It’s a good game despite its lack of content.

[shut cipher]

Lack of content

[solid hinge]

how do you lay down in bf1

[shut cipher]

Not every game needs constant updates

[solid hinge]

help

im in the middle of a game halp

[shut cipher]

This game is perfectly fine with the current amount of content, and I disagree that there is a lack of it

You have Firestorm, Multiple different game modes with multiple different classes and vehicles along with dozens of guns to upgrade, you have war stories all with their own challenges to unlock exclusive melee weapons, you have combined arms and you have a new weapon, tank, plane or cosmetic item once a week.

[shrewd grove]

@solid hinge Z by default

X to toggle crouch

[solid hinge]

thank you

[shut cipher]

Not to mention tides of war and the roadmap

There is no lack of content in bfv

[solid hinge]

there is a lack of maps

[dense bone]

compared to bf1 we are short 4 or 5 maps, i forget which, but bfv also got firestorm

[sonic rampart]

^

[solid hinge]

4 or 5 maps is very significant

[sonic rampart]

Firestorm = 10x hamada

[dense bone]

firestorm is significant

[sonic rampart]

So Thats more than 5 maps

[solid hinge]

im not talking about BR

im talking about the battlefield game

[sonic rampart]

The BR

[dense bone]

firestorm is the bfv game

[shrewd grove]

3 maps coming in the next few months

[sonic rampart]

Is part of it

[solid hinge]

no it is not

[sonic rampart]

It is

[shrewd grove]

And some small 5v5 maps

I think

[sonic rampart]

Its a mode of BfV

[dense bone]

i cant play firestorm outside of bfv...

[sonic rampart]

So it is battlefield

[solid hinge]

you know what i mean

[sonic rampart]

Its battlefield V: Firestorm

[dense bone]

i really dont..

[sonic rampart]

No I dont

[dense bone]

im looking at this in terms of MP content

[sonic rampart]

You can see it as a DLC

[solid hinge]

it could very well be sold on its own

[dense bone]

and thats where the cards lay

it could, but its not

so therefore its bfv mp content

[solid hinge]

you cant sell conquest on its own

you cant sell grand ops on its own

[dense bone]

you could...

[sonic rampart]

You can

[dense bone]

theres no laws against it

[sonic rampart]

[solid hinge]

all these core maps and modes are their own separate thing

firestorm is a completely different experience

[dense bone]

still mp content

[solid hinge]

what if i dont play it?

[dense bone]

thats your fault?

[solid hinge]

what if i bought battlefield v for the core experience? like i have with literally every single other bf game?

[sonic rampart]

Then you dont

[dense bone]

what if i leave panzerstorm and fjell and dont play those maps?

[solid hinge]

you cant compare individual maps from the core game to firestorm

[icy sluice]

This is a battle of the big brains

[solid hinge]

firestorm isnt just a map, it's a completely different game mode

[sonic rampart]

You can

[dense bone]

as far as mp goes, at this point, bfv is behind 4-5 maps, but has firestorm. and under a free service

just take that as you will

[sonic rampart]

Conquest is a different mode

[solid hinge]

4-5 maps is seriously very significant

[dense bone]

im not gonna do hypothetical jump ropes with you

[sonic rampart]

Breakthrough is a different mode

Frontlines is a different mode

[solid hinge]

yes

[mild birch]

won my first firestorm i just started playing yday levle 5 😄

[icy sluice]

9 maps so far, 10 if you count halvøy

[sonic rampart]

But they still all are bf5 mp

[solid hinge]

that are played on the same maps

[sonic rampart]

Panzerstorm at night is only in the grandops

[dense bone]

@solid hinge what is your end goal here?

[icy sluice]

Or TwEnTy If YoU cOuNt HaLvØy aS TeN

[solid hinge]

more maps for the battlefield part of battlefield v?

[dense bone]

they are coming, and its now a free service

[solid hinge]

we're like what

[sonic rampart]

Or 21 If YoU cOuNt PaNzErStOrM aT nIgHt aS a DiFfErEnT mAp

[solid hinge]

5 months into the game?

[sonic rampart]

[solid hinge]

not one map was added

[dense bone]

...

[icy sluice]

I've got a headache〰

[solid hinge]

and we're still not getting jack shit until probably the end of may

[sonic rampart]

Firestorm was added

[dense bone]

when did panzerstorm release?

[sonic rampart]

^

[solid hinge]

a freaking month after the game launched

[dense bone]

im not even gonna mention firestorm since he wants to ignore that

[icy sluice]

Like 2 weeks after release?

[solid hinge]

In like January

yeah less than a month

[dense bone]

so theres 1 map added...

[solid hinge]

nah im pretty sure december

[sonic rampart]

no..

[solid hinge]

Battle of hannut was January right

.. that they couldve added into the game when it came out

[dense bone]

"5 months into game not 1 map added" panzerstorm says hi

[icy sluice]

Well...

[dense bone]

if it could have came out or not, it didnt

[icy sluice]

It also got reworked

[solid hinge]

panzerstorm was already done and ready by then i can guarantee you

[sonic rampart]

So whats your point? @solid hinge

[dense bone]

still didnt come out

[solid hinge]

alright then

[dense bone]

and you cant guarantee shit but ok

[solid hinge]

1 map, pretty much right after release, in 5 months

[icy sluice]

@sonic rampart side question, what's your pfp?

[solid hinge]

ultimately it doesnt matter because we're this far into the game's life cycle and there still hasnt been shit

[dense bone]

well its a free service now so

what did you expect?

[solid hinge]

i dont want a free service tbh

[dense bone]

thats ffine

[sonic rampart]

@icy sluice someone on a mc server made an art of my minecraft skin in a ghost Ish way lol

[solid hinge]

premium wouldve been way better than this shit

[dense bone]

doesnt mean your expectations should differ

[stoic breach]

I still prefer this over the old premium model

[solid hinge]

my expectations still differ because that's how it was before

[dense bone]

im indifferent, but your want for premium doesnt justify complaining about less maps under a free service

[solid hinge]

i'd kill for the old system back

[stoic breach]

If they had premium that didnt lock the maps it would be fine

Paying $60 extra to keep playing the game just sucked

[dense bone]

i usually waited a year later to get them included (game + dlc bundle), i bought this game a week after launch because of the free service

[icy sluice]

Here's the thing, post launch maps wouldn't be nearly as populated

[solid hinge]

i hope to god that this game a year from release is packed with new maps

if that's the case then i'll actually be thankful for the current model

[dense bone]

its all "free" so 🤷

[sonic rampart]

[icy sluice]

Fuck, by the end of bf1s life cycle, I never touched Albion because of its general population

[solid hinge]

really?

i played on that a lot

[icy sluice]

Yeah

[stoic breach]

I played it in premium mixed servers

[solid hinge]

i played on each map a lot

[sonic rampart]

Albion? Already forgot which map it was

[stoic breach]

The problem was that only one other friend had premium

[solid hinge]

and that was back during the road to bfv days

[icy sluice]

Population for premium servers were small until it became free

[sonic rampart]

Btw I never really played the harbor Map of bf1

[stoic breach]

You missed out

[sonic rampart]

Because it wasnt an operation

[icy sluice]

Zeebrugge?

[sonic rampart]

Ye

[stoic breach]

It was a good map

[dense bone]

lets be honest, the free service is better for the general consumers, only hardcore bf fans seem to be complaining

[sonic rampart]

I only played like a couple of rounds

[stoic breach]

Yeah

[sonic rampart]

But that was like on 1 day

Never played it after

[stoic breach]

I played over 670 hours of BF1 and I would take BFVs free service any day

[solid hinge]

no shit we're complaining

we play the game a lot more than these general consumers

[tired thunder]

hey any news when battlelog will get fixed

[sonic rampart]

Hmm

[dense bone]

yea but you ddint pay more..

[sonic rampart]

I kind of like the live service

[solid hinge]

you really really feel the lack of maps when you play the game that much

[stoic breach]

Segregated playerbase isnt a good thing, they should've made the maps free and the guns for premium

[dense bone]

dont play that much?

[sterile ledge]

Snutten

[sonic rampart]

Wait a min my phone is on 1% for like 10min already

[icy sluice]

I play a lot, the one thing I love about the live service is the weekly objectives

[solid hinge]

that's the plan

[sonic rampart]

[solid hinge]

want to quit/play less until they actually add in enough maps

sad it had to come to that

[sonic rampart]

I mean there is enough to do

[stoic breach]

I think I just stopped playing Battlefield 4 because I didnt want to buy premium for a game that released in 2013

[dense bone]

its not sad

[sonic rampart]

You can squad up with friends

[dense bone]

but ok

[icy sluice]

Next chapter seems to have a focus on maps

[solid hinge]

sad for me

[sonic rampart]

You can do some assignments

[solid hinge]

yeah

next chapter

starts in what

june? july?

[dense bone]

then that means bfv did a good job with gameplay to keep you wanting to play

[sonic rampart]

Gold assignments

[icy sluice]

Did we update the roadmap command?

[solid hinge]

the gameplay is good

[sonic rampart]

Mastery for your guns

[icy sluice]

!roadmap

[junior mist]

:information_source: Battlefield V New roadmap
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548484677153980437/558764025882607617/aempocvfrpn21.png

[solid hinge]

mostly

[icy sluice]

Good

[solid hinge]

apart from all the campers

but i cope

[icy sluice]

Aaaaah it is broken

[solid hinge]

with my selbstlader

[scenic beacon]

BROKE

link no workie

[icy sluice]

Which selby?

[solid hinge]

the big mag one

[icy sluice]

Good un

[solid hinge]

it's fucking seriously great for picking off those prone campers

[scenic beacon]

i like assault's selby. its EXTREMELY underused/rated

[solid hinge]

i miss its bf1 firing sound tho

just that rough metallic noise

[stoic breach]

Because why would you take a slow SAR when you have something as fast as the Meta 43

[icy sluice]

I am a recon main

[solid hinge]

because 26 rounds

[sonic rampart]

I miss getting set on fire by 1 pixel of fire

[stoic breach]

[solid hinge]

[icy sluice]

But I play the ever living fucking shit out of the goddamn objective as a reconnaissance soldier

[scenic beacon]

[solid hinge]

You ruined the chain!

[stoic breach]

RSC rise up

[icy sluice]

I Did

[vernal gulch]

THIS GAME IS SOO HARD

[icy sluice]

I did report the roadmap command to mod mail

[sonic rampart]

runs with a bayonet

[stoic breach]

Why can't I beat people to death with my toolbox hammer

[sterile ledge]

thats brutal

[shut cipher]

saying reconnaissance instead of recon

[stoic breach]

Thats the construction business

[shut cipher]

@vernal gulch no it isn't

get good

this game is way easier than bf4

[icy sluice]

I say recon, but just for that tangent

[solid hinge]

Git gud

[marble phoenix]

lmaooo "a sledge hammer" would be a FIRE melee weapon

[rocky phoenix]

wurde vom fn server gebannt

[icy sluice]

Also, my name, Aufklärungssoldat means reconnaissance soldier

[marble phoenix]

shoutout the LRRPs

[sterile ledge]

@icy sluice are you german

[icy sluice]

No

Nein if needed

[marble phoenix]

since we're on the topic of Recon forces

[sterile ledge]

ja

[solid hinge]

Sanitartar

[icy sluice]

Sanitartar sauce

[scenic beacon]

mmm, only for the finest of medics

[sterile ledge]

Ich liebe danke

i dont know what im saying

shaking my smh

[solid hinge]

Reviving a teammate in firestorm is easy right

[icy sluice]

Hold f

[scenic beacon]

F

[solid hinge]

Yeah but them dying and you reviving them is easy right

[icy sluice]

Yeh

[scenic beacon]

just don't get shot lmao

[icy sluice]

Lmao Dutch

[scenic beacon]

woah
tea

[chilly spindle]

what are the best guns in each class in bf1 right now

[dense bone]

best changes on a person to person basis

[midnight nimbus]

yeah BF1 has a lot of bests

[dense bone]

i like playing stupidly aggressive and flanking, so anything small mag i inherently dont like

[chilly spindle]

what are some of ur guys favorites

[midnight nimbus]

AL8 35

[dense bone]

medic was federov

that was all i played xD

[midnight nimbus]

1907 is probably the best all rounder for medic

[shrewd grove]

I always played support so I used the Parabellum and lMG 08

[midnight nimbus]

Madsen is probably the best all rounder for support

[shrewd grove]

That too

[icy sluice]

Personally, for me mp18 trench, model 8, parabellun and gewehr m.95 @chilly spindle

[midnight nimbus]

Ross is the best all rounder sniper rifle

Ribey Factory for best all rounder SMG

[scenic beacon]

10 A hunter is a solid shotgun, smg 08 and hellriegel are solid smgs. Medic has the fedorov and rsc, support has the 1917 telescopic which is basically a sniper, and the ross is a great sniper

[green elm]

most medic guns are solid tbh

[scenic beacon]

^

[midnight nimbus]

so:
1907 Factory, Federov Optical (RSC Factory if you're accurate)
Madsen LW/Trench, Huot LW, lMG 08 LW
SMG08 Factory, Ribey Factory, 1897 Hunter
Ross Marksman, Arisaka Patrol

[mild birch]

does tank power have AoE

[midnight nimbus]

those are probably the standout versatility guns

[mild birch]

i think i got one shot by a tank behaind a hill

does it have area of effect dmg or

[green elm]

mp18 trench, farquad hill, lmg08 and lebel are all solid choices

[somber quail]

Aoe damage is a yes

[midnight nimbus]

yeah tanks have splash damage

[mild birch]

fuck

[somber quail]

Hahaha

[mild birch]

how much i need to hit it with pyrow/e is name of the grenade weapon

[scenic beacon]

lord farquaad hill lmao @green elm

[midnight nimbus]

Ross Marksman is probably the best sniper in the game

[green elm]

i forgot how to spell the actual name lul

[midnight nimbus]

insane RoF, most relevant sweet spot, fast reload

[somber quail]

You can deal extra damage if you have panzerfaust and anti tank grenade

[green elm]

lebel iron sights is my personal favourite

[midnight nimbus]

Howell > Farquhar-Hill bc it has a factory variant

[mild birch]

@midnight nimbus how much times i have ot hit a tank wit hPanzerfaust 100 to kill it

[midnight nimbus]

depends what tank and where you hit it

[green elm]

howell has some crazy spread tho

and weird sights

[midnight nimbus]

but don't use the Panzerfaust

[somber quail]

Yup

[midnight nimbus]

all SLRs have the same spread

more or less

with a few exceptions

[mild birch]

never use that or ?

[green elm]

howell is my best gun on bf1 tho

[midnight nimbus]

the 7.92mm Mauser SLRs have less base spread

[somber quail]

I mean, piat is good, but I hate the drop on it

[mild birch]

i toguht Panzerfaust 100 is good?

[midnight nimbus]

nah just use PIAT

[mild birch]

this is for the BR mode

[somber quail]

I gotta aim higher with the piat

[green elm]

it just feels a little awkward at first

[somber quail]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

oh i don't play BR

🤢🤢🤢

[mild birch]

zzz

[somber quail]

Firestorm is decent at best

It's only fun if you have friends to fuck around with

[green elm]

firestorm solo is lonely and dull

[midnight nimbus]

I don't like BR to start with, and I think Apex brings the most to the table

[somber quail]

Lol yeah

[scenic beacon]

apex does

its a solid game

not too toxic yet

and its by respawn, which is always a plus

[somber quail]

Ye

[midnight nimbus]

only thing I don't like about Apex is the TTK

[green elm]

i suck at apex so i stopped playing it

[midnight nimbus]

I don't like super long TTK

[somber quail]

Ttk for apex is garbage

[midnight nimbus]

some people like super long TTK though, so I don't think it's an inherently bad thing

[somber quail]

I mean, yeah, but it's just tedious for you to chase someone who's running and healing

[midnight nimbus]

I mean I grew up on CoD and BF3/4 for the most part

so I like quick TTK

[somber quail]

^^^

[scenic beacon]

it draws out engagements a bit, puts a bit more emphasis on position

or an r99

[midnight nimbus]

played Quake-style shooters and Halo to start with, but fell in love with faster TTK

[scenic beacon]

either/or

[midnight nimbus]

long TTK is more emphasis on movement than positioning imo

[somber quail]

Faster ttk is fun as hell

[midnight nimbus]

positioning matters less with long TTK

yeah, I just enjoy deleting people

[somber quail]

Exactly

I like that fact lmao

[midnight nimbus]

see: I almost exclusively use SARs in BFV

because I like deleting people fast

[somber quail]

Firestorm should have a increased limit on armor plating honestly

[lusty jackal]

firestorm simply doesnt have anything to do with BF series

[somber quail]

True

But it is a fictional game mode in ww2

[midnight nimbus]

I hate BR because I just want to use my favorite loadouts

I hate looting

[solid hinge]

BFV has been crashing and freezing and loading really slow lately

[midnight nimbus]

I don't mind the concept of a free for all

but I hate long TTK and looting, which are staples of BR

[somber quail]

Yeah

[midnight nimbus]

it's a gambling mentality

winner takes all

let's see what loot I happen to get

I'm not a gambler, so I'm not a fan of BR

BR outcomes aren't random, obv, but there's an undeniable random element that people enjoy

I'm just not one of those people

[lusty jackal]

the gamemode, the series itself, is simply not made for it

its blatant

[midnight nimbus]

^

would've rather seen a frostbite BR designed for BR from the ground up

[lusty jackal]

i would rather see it getting deleted

thing with the game is it feels it's not completed

very limited arsenal, maps, several bugs and so on

[mild birch]

ok so how do i kill tanks fastest/best way in battleroyal mode?

br mode isnt that bad, main issue is low amount of players/loot

[supple flume]

People just want to hide in firestorm. It’s boring. Most of the time the final circle is all of us searching for a guy prone in a bush with a MG42. More players and being able to carry more armour would make it a little better

[charred heron]

I think 3 plates are just fine

[carmine eagle]

Classic Battlefield=more chaotic. More chaos=supreme gamemode

[charred heron]

It's a full big boi charge

Tho the dynamic and HUD in Firestorm really rewards players who find a nice bush or a decent camping weapon for a small hut

[bright lichen]

Hey guys, looking for mates to play the squad missions on BFV (pc) who's in ?

[charred heron]

!lfgpc

[junior mist]

:information_source: <> Trying To Form A Squad For PC?
Head Over to the #lfg-pc Category and remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!

[charred heron]

@bright lichen

[supple flume]

3 plates isn’t fine. If you get 3rd partied during a fight you’ll have nothing. And the shit loot system causes you to have to stand around trying to pinpoint where the armour is on the players body. 6 would be a logical increase.

[charred heron]

That's 3 full reloads for a Level 3 armor

On the other hand more armor would invite for more aggressive plays

But that'd be unfair towards the players who found less and can't easy patch up their wounds after a Firefight

[midnight nimbus]

ugh the HUD in firestorm is so bad

I can't even watch YouTube videos of firestorm

just looks terrible

[supple flume]

That’s not 3 full reloads for level 3 armour. It is two. The process of healing is long enough. There’s not much cover on the map and the final circle usually forces you into an open area.

People that found less didn’t loot enough. That’s how BR rewards looting or being aggressive and good and looting more people you kill.

Nothing is unfair

[lusty jackal]

if they spent the time for making this shit BR

to add maps instead

they'd get new players

and make the current ones happy

facts

[icy sluice]

@midnight nimbus you do realise that saying something is bad warrants a response of "git gud" no matter the context, right?

I do agree though, it is 🚮

[midnight nimbus]

I'm saying the HUD/UI of firestorm is bad, don't see how that warrants "git gud"

it's just not pleasant to look at/use

[icy sluice]

Yeh

But hey, doesn't matter the context

[midnight nimbus]

for all its flaws, Apex Legends has the best HUD/UI of any recent shooter

it's really easy to understand and get into

[lusty jackal]

not sure about PC, but in PS4 the trees look like they were in PS2

lol

[supple flume]

Tbh Battlefield should have never stepped into BR. The moment I heard of the game being WW2 setting it’s not really going to work. I mean, you can’t add much /interesting/ content and keep it accurate for all the people who care so much about that.

Apex and fortnite work because they’re on their own setting and don’t confine themselves to a specific event giving them to freedom to overload the game with interesting content and more things to work towards.

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, with the right settings, trees render really poorly

[icy sluice]

Yeah that's an lod issue

[midnight nimbus]

I love it

[icy sluice]

Lod = Level Of Detail

[opaque cipher]

Apex hud is a little big for my taste

Suffers slightly from the blackout hud syndrome but not too terribly

[midnight nimbus]

I like how there are timers for abilities and the like

BF could use some visual timers

[icy sluice]

It does but it ain't all noticeable

[midnight nimbus]

yeah, it's really poorly communicated

I mean that's BF in general

poorly communicated mechanics

[icy sluice]

They're too thin, needs to be thiccer

[midnight nimbus]

at least gunplay is well communicated, I'll give them that

as much as I hate spread to recoil conversion, it does let you know when your gun is getting less accurate

[icy sluice]

I'll show you well communicated 😉

[supple flume]

They’ve gone from RNG spread to RNG recoil. I dunno which I like better haha

[icy sluice]

Oh that's right, you don't really like jokes, kht

[solid hinge]

owo

[midnight nimbus]

I like funny ones 😉

[icy sluice]

At least it ain't cod wwii rng recoil

[midnight nimbus]

I mean all BFs had random recoil

random recoil is just a bigger aspect of balancing in BFV than it was before

spread to recoil conversion just introduces too much screen shake for my taste

i'd rather just watch my tracers

[icy sluice]

Sometimes weapons like the Thompson with rapid fire are a laser, others I can't hit shit (Cod WWII)

[midnight nimbus]

all CoDs kinda have random recoil

very few games have truly fixed recoil

I don't even think CS recoil is fully fixed

[icy sluice]

Cods was the biggest offender though

I mean wwiis

[supple flume]

They wanted predictable recoil patterns though. And they’ve done the opposite. People have tested the recoil and they’re RNG based. They lied 😂

[midnight nimbus]

CoD WW2's recoil was nothing new

well you have predictable recoil patterns in BFV

[icy sluice]

I mean it was the most extreme it could be

[midnight nimbus]

it's just hard to predict because it's overlaid on top of random spread and recoil

so the first few shots are very predictable

and it's less predictable from there, as other factors become more prevalent

I think this is good

[icy sluice]

I am good

[supple flume]

Not necessarily. The recoil direction itself is predictable, but sometimes the 3rd 4th 5th shot etc will shoot off either direction

[midnight nimbus]

I don't want fully predictable recoil, it just begs for macro abuse

[icy sluice]

Yeah definitely

[midnight nimbus]

iirc, it's designed so that recoil up to the 5th bullet is very predictable

if you want to magdump, use an LMG

[supple flume]

CSGO has predictable recoil and it’s the most successful FPS

[icy sluice]

See fg42

[midnight nimbus]

I don't think CS recoil mechanics should fully translate into BF

also CS has a lot of spread

[supple flume]

Yes but that spread is consistent everytime

We don’t want full accurate weapons. But predictable weapons

Like the AEK in BF4 is up and to the left

So you pull down to the right

To keep it level

[midnight nimbus]

I'd rather just have straight up recoil like BF1

I don't care for all the recoil memes

[supple flume]

Yuck

[icy sluice]

Let's keep taking about the most used weapon in bf4

[midnight nimbus]

I don't think it adds anything to the game

[supple flume]

Bf1 was spread based

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 had much less spread than BF4

like significantly less

[supple flume]

But all the weapons generally fired slower, so it makes sense

[icy sluice]

Some guns had ridiculous spread in 1

[midnight nimbus]

it just gives you more spread if you're sloppy with shooting

even the really high spread guns in BF1 would be low spread in BF4

[supple flume]

Bf4 most weapons were 800+ ROF where as BF1 it’s like 500-600

[midnight nimbus]

like SMG08 would be pretty relatively accurate for a BF4 PDW

[supple flume]

Giving them too much spread would cause the felt TTK to be shit

[midnight nimbus]

BF1 randomness is mostly from recoil

[supple flume]

@icy sluice AEK is most used because it’s the highest reward for learning its recoil. If you can have that thing lay flat and control it perfectly it’s a beam haha 👏

[midnight nimbus]

not like BF4 has much recoil in the first place

and there's not much recoil to learn if you're using them right and microbursting

[supple flume]

Bf4 had more recoil that BF1 doe

[midnight nimbus]

not really

BF1 recoil is higher across the board

[trim token]

Bf4 recoil was EASY to counter

[mild birch]

i can't hear people when they crouch walk in b5?

[supple flume]

Bf1 id say was easier. None of the weapons had a hard right or left pull

It’s was just vertical

[midnight nimbus]

I don't care for the minutia of recoil, I don't think it adds anything to the game

doesn't make it any more "skillful"

[rocky verge]

AEK?

[icy sluice]

AEK, the tryhard gun

[lusty jackal]

also

the "perks"

they're like Battle royale

not made for Battlefield

games

[supple flume]

“Tryhard”

[lusty jackal]

perks are for COD, not BF

[rocky verge]

Ah from bf4

[midnight nimbus]

perks in BF are fine

[rocky verge]

Heh yeah TRYHARD hides gun

[lusty jackal]

I knew you'd say "BF 4 !!" but it's different

they were accessories

[midnight nimbus]

i'd love to see archetypes in BFV

[lusty jackal]

plus it's set in the future

[rocky verge]

Bf4 and bf3

[supple flume]

Yeah I agree man. More mechanics that add another layer of thought to the game are just like CoD. It’s so bad. @lusty jackal

[shadow widget]

Guys?

In battlefield 4 what's fairfight?

[rocky verge]

@lusty jackal I also used it bf3 then I went to the Scar

[supple flume]

Guys

[shadow widget]

In battlefield 4 what's fairfight?

[supple flume]

CoD has guns, BF is copying CoD

This is outrage

[midnight nimbus]

I hate the reeeeee CoD mentality in the BF community

[rocky verge]

That's like saying Gta 5 has guns its copying battlefield

[midnight nimbus]

CoD is a good FPS that does lots of things well

[rocky verge]

[shadow widget]

Can someone please tell me what fairfight is

[solid hinge]

I hope they keep Grind

[lusty jackal]

I liked BF over COD for realism, but with perks and stuff like that really there's no difference anymore

[solid hinge]

It’s pretty fun

[rocky verge]

I play cod for the zombies

[shut cipher]

Man I am doing shit today. I got 50+ kills as Recon yesterday and now today I went 20-24

[supple flume]

I mean at least CoD has people making a living off their game and pro scene and we sitting here still waiting for another decent game

[shadow widget]

Fine then

[shut cipher]

well I was at 200 ping the whole game as well ig

[solid hinge]

Zombies is the only thing I play CoD for

[rocky verge]

I play cod for the zombies primis crew forever

[shadow widget]

I miss MW style cod

[lusty jackal]

Snipers? Snipering in BF V sucks, you can even make 40 HP damage with a long shot lmao

[shadow widget]

And the first black ops

[lusty jackal]

i can see why everybody uses that OP ZH

[supple flume]

CoD is a different game from battlefield. People who compare the two are 🥔

[rocky verge]

First games I played
First Cod game:Call of duty 3
First battlefield game:Battlefield 2 Modern combat

[lusty jackal]

It WAS a different game

[solid hinge]

I mean it is a different game

A worse game

[rocky verge]

Call of duty 3 for me will always be a great game

[midnight nimbus]

CoD isn't worse, it does what it intends to do very well

[supple flume]

“Worse” that’s why it’s always more successful. After hardline the CoD games are much better. Crimsix a pro player for Optic on CoD says his favourite game of all time is BF3. The later battlefields are just nothing

[midnight nimbus]

there's a lot of things that CoD does better than BF

[rocky verge]

How everyone option on battlefield 2 modern combat?

[lusty jackal]

BF 2 was the best battlefield IMO, they should just remove perks, BR, be more accurate with history and put back that sense of realism, and, ofc, add maps. That's how you make a BF game.

[midnight nimbus]

BF2 🤢

[lusty jackal]

They could've used the same BF 1 graphics too on BF 5.

[midnight nimbus]

BF2 infantry is just 🤮

[supple flume]

“Accurate with history” I see what we have here..

[midnight nimbus]

BF3/4 were the zenith

[shadow widget]

What's the BF4 tick rate?

It says 30hz

For one of the servers

what does that mean

[lusty jackal]

Everybody Battlefield was good till BF V tbh

I liked them all

more or less

but this one I simply can't dig it

it's an unfinished game

[rocky verge]

How about call of duty 3 ? Good cod or nah?

[lusty jackal]

I dont care about CODs

[midnight nimbus]

just play vehicles in BFV

[supple flume]

That’s my point now. I’d rather player CoD than deal with the awful mechanics of the recent BF games. However, BF3, BC2 are the best FPS games I’ve ever played 👍

[midnight nimbus]

I mean BF1 was an overall fun infantry experience

[rocky verge]

Bf3 and bf1 for me are good

[lusty jackal]

Sniping in BF1 was the shit, now if you miss the head you do 40 HP damage lol

[rocky verge]

Now I wonder what if they remaster bad company with bfv graphics?

[lusty jackal]

do you guys tank headshots? It happened to me

lmao

[rocky verge]

And movement system

[midnight nimbus]

no don't remaster BC pls

gunplay is so bad

just remake it

[supple flume]

Sweet spots are not rewarding. Battlefield has never had an issue with have 1 shot kills only to the head.

[midnight nimbus]

sweet spots are great

makes snipers not a meme

Battlefield always had an issue when sniper rifles are headshots only

bc snipers are just useless

[supple flume]

I guess on PC you can get away with that. But on console, the Aim assist spam with the sweet spots was god awful

Way too easy

[midnight nimbus]

I think aim assist was disabled for scoped sniper rifles in BF1

[supple flume]

Later in the game

[midnight nimbus]

pretty sure it was very close to launch

[supple flume]

Nope

[midnight nimbus]

conslol problems 🤷🏼‍♀️

[supple flume]

Oh wait

Scoped

Rip

I meant like RDS and iron eights

Yeah scoped had none lol

[lusty jackal]

I dont want them to be one-shot-kill but you simply can't make FOURTY HP DAMAGE with a sniper shot to the chest

it's ridicolous

in BF 1 you'd tank 70-80

like supposed to

[supple flume]

I don’t think any of them do 40 damage. 50 maybe at the minimum. I think the M95 still hits for 70-80 chest

[solid hinge]

Haha

[midnight nimbus]

only thing I didn't like about BF1 snipers is how high the non-sweet spot damage was

[solid hinge]

Sure does

[lusty jackal]

At long ranges on PS4 it happened to me I did 40

[midnight nimbus]

makes the sweet spot less rewarding in comparison

[lusty jackal]

anyway, the damage is too low

[midnight nimbus]

yeah Krag does like 54(?) minimum, and that's the lowest in BFV

[supple flume]

You shot them in the leg maybe.

[midnight nimbus]

BFV has no leg multipliers

[lusty jackal]

try use a SMLE or that one with the suppressor in BF 1

[supple flume]

Or is it arms

[lusty jackal]

and then go back to BF 5

[midnight nimbus]

BFV has no limb multipliers at all

[icy sluice]

Enfield

[midnight nimbus]

just head

[supple flume]

Rip

[midnight nimbus]

I'm fine with low sniper rifle damage if there's sweet spot

punishing if you aren't positioning yourself right

[lusty jackal]

then the snipers become useless

[midnight nimbus]

no, just put yourself in your sweet spot

[supple flume]

I wish symthic was still up so you could go look into the damages and hit boxes

[midnight nimbus]

or aim at heads

symthic is still there

sym.gg

[lusty jackal]

on PS4 it's only SGT, Thompson, KEG, Sten

you only see 4 guns

[supple flume]

Oh, they’ve made a new one

[midnight nimbus]

I did some stuff for the sym community that's posted on reddit about weapons

[supple flume]

Symthic.com went down like over a year ago. Or they stopped supporting it

[lusty jackal]

and on BF 1 it's only the Federov

[midnight nimbus]

they got shut down by GDPR laws

[supple flume]

Ah okay

[midnight nimbus]

their site host cucked them

[supple flume]

I’ll look into the new one. Cheers

[cedar cove]

Sick of projectiles not doing any damage if I'm killed after firing one

[shut cipher]

Ikr

another thing I love is when I go 9-7 in conquest

I waited a good 15 minutes for a plane to spawn in

[solid hinge]

Today, out of like 15 games, the US team has won nearly all of them

Am i missing something here

[shut cipher]

british team has better tanks and better planes

well

better tanks it seems

[sonic rampart]

doubt

[shut cipher]

the german tanks are just so fat

[sonic rampart]

[shut cipher]

bbw tanks

the only good one is the panzer iv

[sonic rampart]

What about the call in tank

[shut cipher]

doesn't count it's meant to be op

[solid hinge]

Talking about bf4

Even with a nooby team

[shut cipher]

you mean the one that shoots a literal bathtub out of the barrel right

[solid hinge]

US wins every single game

[sonic rampart]

Well the british one doesnt feel op

[solid hinge]

How are they so op with low ranked team mates?

[shut cipher]

Holy shit I just left devastation and now I got the same server again

[sonic rampart]

Oof

[shut cipher]

I don't want to play conquest on this map

[sonic rampart]

Happens to me all the time

[shut cipher]

or rotterdam

[sonic rampart]

Use server browser

On the maps you want to play on

[solid hinge]

Also, for people on bf4, why does dragons teeth keep going into an infinite loading screen?

[shut cipher]

I just want a panzerstorm and hamada 24/7 server

panzerstorm 24/7 would be a dream come true

[sonic rampart]

Also check the map rotation if you dont want to quit after 1 match

[wild jacinth]

its hilarious on pc at least most servers shut down in the night times

[shut cipher]

hey the protein powder kid is back

[wild jacinth]

less servers at night

[shut cipher]

[wild jacinth]

Hey at least I can spell sanitater correct.

[sonic rampart]

Not on console

[shut cipher]

sonny tater is correct

[sonic rampart]

Sanitäter

[shut cipher]

sonny tater is one popular lad

[sonic rampart]

Not sanitater

[solid hinge]

I returned bfv the week I bought it

[shut cipher]

do you not know that assignment?

[sonic rampart]

[shut cipher]

@solid hinge I feel bad for you

[sonic rampart]

So you didnt spell it right

[shut cipher]

best battlefield game

[wild jacinth]

you know i played BF1 the whole year and i legit thought thats what the german soldiers were saying Sonny tater and I would look that up on google to no avail of translation

[shut cipher]

Screw bad company 2

overrated as hell

[solid hinge]

Every single game was just being raped by pilots or snipers

[sonic rampart]

Lmao

[solid hinge]

Couldnt even spawn in without being shot instantly in the middle of a huge ass open field

[shut cipher]

I barely ever die from planes

[sonic rampart]

Never heard soldiers of bf1

Say sanitäter

Or I prob forgot/didnt pay attention

[solid hinge]

Bfh is fun, but ive exceeded most of the stuff there so im uninstalling

no

[shut cipher]

I'm sick of grinding recon so to get my last 14000 XP for level 20 I'm just going to spam flares on grind

[wild jacinth]

dude dice needs to do something about playerbase on feer sturm its 4 p.m. in afternoon and I'm in que for 9 minutes.

Free to play weekend anyone?

[formal valve]

What’s up guys

[shut cipher]

@wild jacinth that's your wifi

it's never taken me more than 2 minutes to find a match

and that was at 5 am

[rotund sentinel]

What I get for playing sanitater and saving your asses

[wild jacinth]

@shut cipher where you live

Its not my wifi NA is done for BFV.

Feersturm

[icy sluice]

Could be a bigger reason but whatever

[solid hinge]

I still feel as though there is an EE to unlock dice camo on bf4

[wild jacinth]

@icy sluice Could b EA bigger reason but whatever

[shut cipher]

Canada

[icy sluice]

🇨🇦

[scenic beacon]

eh?

[shut cipher]

I finally got recon to level 20

Now for support which is level 18

assualt is level 7

lol

[scenic beacon]

F

[shut cipher]

I never played assualt until 2 months after I bought the gamw

game*

or support until 1 month

[wild jacinth]

Well I'm in U.S on PC

so i know console players load in like instantly into matches but pc

well thats another story for another day.

[cold trail]

!roadmap

[junior mist]

:information_source: https://media.contentapi.ea.com/content/dam/bf/common/bfv-towcalendarvertical-chapter3-5-updated.jpg

[scenic beacon]

noice

[dense bone]

Good timing

Should pin that so we can send all the " no content" people that

[icy sluice]

Good thing I know who Moderator is now

[scenic beacon]

#nyphon for mod 2k19

[charred heron]

Well, the roadmap is slow

But at least it's not crumbling yet like Anthem's roadmap

[dense bone]

Seems steady to me

[scenic beacon]

slow but steady wins the race

[icy sluice]

Hydra for some reason doesn't show his name in mod mail

[shut cipher]

anthem is a joke

I haven't heard anyone mention it for weeks

[solid hinge]

Prob still better than Destiny 2

[icy sluice]

Anything is

[shut cipher]

anything is

[solid hinge]

Yep pretty much

[shut cipher]

destiny 2 was fun when it first came out then everyone realised they wasted their money

I loved that game

for 2 weeks

[solid hinge]

Which was 5 days later

[shut cipher]

[solid hinge]

Biggest cash grab should be illegal

[amber notch]

@scenic beacon

[scenic beacon]

PING

BLYAT

[shut cipher]

God damn my KD has gone down by 0.11 just doing these stupid fucking krag jorgensen mastery challenges

[dusky saffron]

honestly

it's why I stopped play recon

kills my kd

[shut cipher]

it's ridiculous

Once I get gold on that gun I'm never doing another recon challenge again

one gold gun is enough

for recon

[scenic beacon]

SLRs are kinda nice, love the RSC bayonet, but i don't really play recon much outside of that

[shut cipher]

RSC is ok I was using it on grind

it's better than the zh

[scenic beacon]

not really

zh and selby 1906 for range

[shut cipher]

it's one hit headshot at close range

at least I got tons of one hits

[scenic beacon]

rsc, model 8 for close range

[shut cipher]

maybe they were a low health

[scenic beacon]

nah, i think only bolts are a one hit headshot

[shut cipher]

ok I just got really lucky then

I got at least 10 one hits in one game

every headshot was a one tap so I thought it was op but they just didn't have any health ig

it was grind so that makes sense

[mild birch]

in firestorm mode i can convert single fire all the weapons or only a few?

[icy sluice]

If you can do it in mp you can do it in firestorm

[solid hinge]

Only bolts are one hit headshot kill

[shrewd grove]

And the revolver is

[solid hinge]

im gonna miss grind

hope they keep it 4ever tbh

[charred heron]

Only after some needed adjustememts

[solid hinge]

yeah it could use some refining

but it's some good fun

maybe later on they'll add a metro style map

[strong parrot]

grind..good for padding spm

[solid hinge]

grinding weapon assignments too

GRIND

[warm atlas]

It is really much more fun than I expected it to be

[slate carbon]

does the amount of xp needed to level up in TOW ever go higher than 100,000?

[warm atlas]

I was never the biggest fan of metro or locker tbh

[ancient ocean]

@slate carbon ya

[tight tusk]

if the upcoming "urban combat" map isnt a remastered ww2 version of metro ima be sad

[slate carbon]

whats the highest you know of?

seems like ive needed 96k to level up for a few levels or im just on meth

[warm atlas]

I hear urban combat, I wish for more maps like devastation.

[solid hinge]

pls no devestation

[tight tusk]

pretty sure the highest level last tow was like 160,000 xp or something

[solid hinge]

if you mean war torn then i agree

[warm atlas]

Devastation is like the most atmospheric map in the game.

[solid hinge]

if you mean dark as fuck with pitch black shadows everything then no please

[tight tusk]

devastation if you could actually see people would be nice

[solid hinge]

everywhere*

[warm atlas]

Amiens 2.0

Lesgo

[solid hinge]

yes please

rotterdam doesnt even do it

that map is at least 80% shadows

[warm atlas]

Rotterdam is good. But it’s no Amiens

[solid hinge]

is that why the dutch are so tall?

they're closer up to the sun

so they see better

i mean that's the only explanation

[tight tusk]

metro but 1945 berlin could work

[warm atlas]

They didn’t see the German bombing raids.

[slate carbon]

twisted steel narvik and rotterdam are all the same map but each is slightly worse

with steel being the best

[solid hinge]

has anyone here actually been to rotterdam

[warm atlas]

I prefer Narvik and Rotterdam to Twisted Steel

[solid hinge]

can you confirm if there is in fact, light rays striking the city?

[tight tusk]

more like high strength sun radiation lasers

but yes

[warm atlas]

Mainly because Twisted Steel is kinda a shit map for teamplay. Cause majority of players just stick to the bridge.

[slate carbon]

grind is shit for teamplay period

[warm atlas]

I mean on conquest

[slate carbon]

o well im talking about grind

[warm atlas]

Ohhh

Oh yeah, twisted Steel is the best grind map

[slate carbon]

if its conquest i agree with you

faxs

[warm atlas]

Mainly cause it has the most cover

[slate carbon]

it feels a lot less one sided as well

[solid hinge]

camping the under bridge platforms with semi autos/snipers

[warm atlas]

Yeah usually it’s a huge battle at B

Using MMGs and firing into smoke blindly.

[solid hinge]

no joke i die to that a lot

[slate carbon]

yea except if you dont have b youre forced to push

[solid hinge]

somehow i find it harder to run a cqc weapon on grind

the chaos and constant getting shot at makes closing in the distance really hard

[warm atlas]

That’s not much of a surprise. You can’t push very well.

Too linear.

[solid hinge]

staying back with a semi auto is sooo much more effective though

as if it already wasnt good enough in other modes lol

[slate carbon]

one thing i cant stand about this game is all the cover that doesnt allow you to deploy a bipod

[warm atlas]

Same with an MG42.

[slate carbon]

for instance i cant deploy on literally any sandbags

very frustrating

[warm atlas]

You also can’t deploy on a slope while prone.

[slate carbon]

😩

[warm atlas]

That’s the worst.

[solid hinge]

my fav thing is how the panzerfaust can deal 30 damage to a tank but not destroy a pile of sandbags

[warm atlas]

Wanna use your MMG on Twisted Steel on the broken bit? Fuck You.

[solid hinge]

op sandbags

[warm atlas]

But yet. You can deploy your bipod on a bush

You can also deploy your bipod on a teammates head

[solid hinge]

that's how dice wants you to play

lmao what?

[warm atlas]

Yeah

It’s real

[solid hinge]

new assignment

get 10 kills in one life with your bipod deployed on your buddy's head

[mild birch]

wtf game crash no error nothing stable fps good pc, first time ever

[solid hinge]

i remember in bf1 you could mount the bipod on a wall

[mild birch]

any idea how to check what happened to prevent it? last 5 in br mode fk

[solid hinge]

by just looking up perpendicular

[warm atlas]

20 headshots on objectives in 1 life while bipod is deployed on friendly’s head

[solid hinge]

ssshh we're giving them ideas

[slate carbon]

also how everyone is a massive 🐱 and just sits there even though we need to push

great

[warm atlas]

I think that is a problem that will plague Battlefield till the end of time.

[slate carbon]

you would think after seeing a few guys run past you would join them

[solid hinge]

this game has it worse tbh

[warm atlas]

Idk. It was bad in BF1 too

[slate carbon]

we have entered the casual age imo

[warm atlas]

Hell, it was almost worse in BF1

I hardly get games in V where the enemy caps every flag. But that was a daily occurrence in BF1

Multiple daily occurrence.

[muted socket]

i find more instances of snipers doing jack shit in bf1 than bfv

[robust verge]

anyone wanna play grind?

[slate carbon]

whats with dice slapping TOW rewards in the armory for BFC?

[native yoke]

did Company Coins get removed?

[shrewd grove]

No

[icy sluice]

Nope

[cinder gazelle]

Company coins?

[pale rain]

Lol

[celest siren]

bruh

unmuted

eck dee

[shut cipher]

@solid hinge why do you have prank invasion as your profile picture

@native yoke lol

[solid hinge]

Finally

A finnish lmg

[chilly marten]

ok

[shrewd grove]

Finally

[turbid prairie]

I've been in the british faction

200 times

Let me Be axis

shitty RNG

[shrewd grove]

Well you flip sides almost every match

At least in BT

So normally I just stay until the match is over then goes into the next

[turbid prairie]

I did one match as british

then

British again

[solid hinge]

There’s been times where I’ve been German like 10 games in a row

[shrewd grove]

Ive not had a problem with it too often

Except if I'm playing conquest

[shut cipher]

I'm always German

[chilly marten]

ok

e

[solid hinge]

Did Dice ever say why they aren’t doing custom servers

[shrewd grove]

I don't think they said they straight up weren't

I think they just said it wasn't planned or on the docket of things they were thinking of doing atm

Can't think of why tho, it seems like it'd make them a decent amount of money maybe

[solid hinge]

It’d prob be a better time soon rather than later when even less ppl are playing bfv

[shrewd grove]

Mhm

[strong parrot]

damn custom servers? no one thought about that one yet

[glossy locust]

think of how much better this game would be with a community made maps

literally would be the best game out

[chilly marten]

WHEEZ

E

[shrewd grove]

lol

[chilly marten]

🤣

If they were in regular matchmaking

the game would die

[shrewd grove]

Community made maps would probably just be metro

[glossy locust]

why do you think so? CSGO is litearlly made from community mod

all maps were a mod

cache was made in the community

valve made canals and it blows dick

and what exactly inspires confidence about DICE's current map design?

they make about 4 good maps a game

trash maps even in bf4

i don't get you guys

you think it's a complexity issue?

[shrewd grove]

Not really

I don't understand what you mean by community made maps to begin with

[glossy locust]

basically they realease tools to mod frostbite, hell maybe even make something as barebones as the halo builder

where they have premade assets you can drop into a sandbox

[shrewd grove]

Eh idk if they could make that work is the thing

It'd be cool

But frostbite kinda sucks

[glossy locust]

yeah i dunno, bfv is already dying on PC, I just read they shut down the UK servers

since they have the premium skins model, why is there incentive to not have custom servers and not have custom maps

not like they are selling maps

I know it will never happen in a million years

[solid hinge]

Oof rip UK

[shrewd grove]

It's fine for me on PC but probably because I'm NA

[forest eagle]

What if I told you: I just won a conquest game 1-0

[glossy locust]

Yeah UK plays on germany now

[forest eagle]

What? Since when does that make any sense?

That’s like trying to play on the east coast of the United States and playing on a server in Alaska

[glossy locust]

well not quite man haha