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Just kill someone with a revo, and pick up his gun, ez life
And there's loads of resupply stations on grind so I can always be on the frontline while still flaring
@solid hinge I get max 10k. How
Rotterdam

im 2 lvls before i can get mg42
Broke: spotting enemies with flares
Woke: spotting enemies with machine Gunner perk
then ill work on medic
@dense bone I got 1.8k spm by flare spamming
mg34 is gg for grind
spm doesn't seem very accurate when it can vary between modes so much
But rotterdams resupply stations are on the ground @solid hinge
Ye
Even better
Ur not in danger
I get bored doing nothing
Same
Wait what's best tben
Assault sniper medic or support
For grind xp
@solid hinge disgusting, lol.
Best gun?
@solid hinge
?????
Oh sorry
Every class is good
Best for xp?
Yes
XP = skill
best for xp in general is medic
aint no class faster than the other
- Scout
- Medic
- Support
- Assault
scouts only good for spm in grind where flare is good
^
outside of grind, recon has the lowest spm by far of the 4 classes
top 1% for each class, recon spm was 630, the other 3 classes were around 700
yeah recon is lower
Worst map for flares is devastation
that seems like a good flare map...
why is that i feel bfV is super underdeveloped?
It kinda is
BFV only got maybe a year of development instead of the usual two
What would be the best class for devastation grind?
Assault,Support, or Medic
Medic with Thompson
isnt it normally 3 years dev time vs bfv 2
@solid hinge imo medic or support, they just provide a lot

recon can score farm with flare, but their guns are meh
support has a lot of options to play in grind
and medic is always helpful
recon has great guns if you are accurate at all
Commando carbine needs buff
one shot headshots are sweet
i had to quit becasue we kept getting 0-3'd first 4 minutes
yea lets not act like a lot of people are accurate with bolts
My aim is awful
Dice eats dog shit at times
I missed FIVE shots with the revolver at 5m range
the revolver is sick
It’s cheap
easy gun
Booo
Plated*
yeah, i don't believe anybody refuses to use the revolver because it's easy
I got a normal m1911
It’s cheap, hence why I don’t use it
sure lol
So I'm playing breakthrough
and they reached 99 people
I like my glock
then somehow went back up to 100
Nice
Called reviving
omg
No, it was jesus
people are actually reviving
Died on Sunday came back Monday
and it only counts your death if you don't get revived
I wish the battlefields felt more war like
Instead of a skirmish
Do any of you know the Yao Ming face meme?

I can't go anywhere without a tryharding assault class with one
i wouldnt say the stg is try harding
if i was try harding i would use the mas or g1-5
The gun is annoying
Lol
ehh, its a good all arounder but doesnt excell at anything
STG44 is at least not as cheap as the G43 or basically any other SAR
But on some of the billboards in BF4 it looks like the Yao Ming face
listen here mr davidson, idk what youre talking about
The Yao Ming face?
no, bf4
Battlefield 4
Yes I know it's 6 years old but it's still a good game
I even think it's better than BF1 (IDK about 5 tho there both meh)
but you just said black and it worked
Black is a ps2 shooting game made by Criterion
black was that destructible game right?
Yeah it's because it's a bug on mobile
Doesn't show things being censored
Same thing in mine
How long on average do combined arms missions take in Battlefield V?
depends on skill and difficulty
^
but id say 10-20 minutes?
Yeah probably
Only played a couple
God I’m so bored of all the games I have
Played the hell out of battlefield
yea i only did a few because someone forced me to play them
Now I’m legit spending my time on bo4
Some parts good others bad
Can’t figure out how to customize my character
Blackout is actually pretty fun
Squads
.
OK! i m conviced BF1 is better than bfv, and BF4 is better than both
i spent like 60 on coins for BFv wish i can give it away
Congrats?
is there a way to donate coins?
I'm finna get this premium pack
No
Not that I know if
bf1 online is shit but their private servers were lit
thats true,
like standard issue rifles was the best thing i have ever seen added in rsp
i felt little... blah about BFv single player
i havent tried combined arms thing bc i dont got friends lol
@solid hinge just played rotterdam and got fucking 2k because I kept getting fucking flanked
BF1 was fun, but had so much annoying op shit that made it shit
they should make a BF game about russo-turkish war of 1877-78
or even crimean war
that war was HUGE
operations was lit
Easy to use mortars and mortar trucks, smash q no matter what, sniper sweet spots...
Behemoths...
CA is bad
I threw my controller against my wall and it's not working
sounds reasonable
so let us now have a conversation about rsp since bf1 had a lit rsp
Bring it back with standard issue rifle plsss
Dice
You know how long it too for RSP to be on BF1? since its release? 
im wondering if hardcore mode will be a thing on this game
i knew a guy that threw his controller. it wedged perfectly in the dry wall
right between studs.
if rsp comes out im sure people will make hardcore mode settings
BF1 had RSP on release
what is RSP?
it just worked as intended
Rent a Server Program
Rental Servers = RSP
BF1 had the best RSP
i would be more patient but the Bf1 community is already dead
Kill the admin and get banned
actually no, BFV's is currently better
@midnight nimbus agreed
BF1 had a significant lack of rented servers
yeah that's why it's awesome
BF1s rsp was great, we had standard issue and lots of other shit
server browser was designed to make all the RSP servers as hard to find as possible
Disabling behemoths 😩
Why am I flanked so much??? Instead of 20k I got fucking 2k because I couldn't even get out my own fucking spawn
Standard issue rifles needed to be in the normal game
@solid hinge f
doesnt seem bf1 had rsp at launch
I just wanna use the SMLE as assault
bfv's benemoth is pretty fair tbh
can’t wait for 24/7 devastation servers
imagine if bfv had rsp with standard issue grand ops on a normandy map
wait imagine no attrition, 24/7 Battle of Hannut + Aerodrome BT 😩😩😩

Literal hell
RSP is exactly where it belongs
Tank resupply system is trash
@solid hinge

yeah, but the British tanks have so much ammo that it's tolerable
I miss the ammo glitch
the gun carrier is my fav
I have other games to play :(((
@solid hinge blame it on those players sitting on one spot in BF1 prior
Gun carrier is op
i use it as artillery
I mean pratically the tank system reminds me of OG BF titles
AP rounds do 40 dmg on a tiger
in 1942 was like that
3 shot
yep
limited ammo and you had to resupply
and HESH is SUPER destructive vs buildings
What about
Instead of those stations that get easily destroyed,why not just make it so when the tank is staying on an objective,it gets resupplied every fiew seconds.
yeah the BFV/OG BF tank systems are garbage
1 shot compltly destroys those colored homes in norvsk. but Strumtiger is way more destructive
I just learned FIFA also uses Frostbite 3
yes´
cool
Epic
been using for the past 3 years or so
shut
I don't play fifa
so
Wonder when r they gonna make a new one
new what
if it's a new fifa
Engine
then never
because they keep recycling it xd
Fifa is trasg
Same game
exactly
Theres nothing new you can do
frosbite is consistent and stable, ad for now what I know they have been improving it depending the use you want for it
Sports games aint been popular for me, since i was like a teen
unless its respawn they dont use frosbite
my younger brother that literally is a fan of FIFA, says BFV is like BF1
Just play sports with ur friends 
Much more fun
I mean BFV is similar to BF1 in many ways
"Sports" 😉

Yeah, you can hold guns, they're exactly the same
attrition doesn't change anything for the average shitter
they're similar cause they're both fps gun games
BfV > bf1 imo, dont get it why some people like bf1 more, prob cause of the operations being better
All these games are copying Doom
BFV gunplay is the logical extreme of BF1's
because bf1 nailed the maps, the soundtrack, atmosphere
or rather the logical conclusion
bfv only has good gunplay going for it
The maps are fine aswell
Panzerstorm 👌👌👌
bfv maps are so forgettable
I kind of like them more tbh
zero atmosphere
^
not a big deal to me
BF1 with BFV gunplay would've been ideal to me
in terms of playing infy at least
BfV + more maps would be so good
BFV would feel like ww2 if the colors were diffrent
^
They r ummm
Different
Yea
They are okay I guess
BF4 is near perfect in every aspect but gunplay
But just different
Why cant they just add a filter
they’re vibrant
colors are too dull, contrast is too high
I like bf1 colors more
I have to muck around with NVIDIA game filters to make things visible
But i like bfv more than bf1
i like the colour of verdun heights the best
^^
Death
bf1 had so much random burning
Two trench raiders just slamming into each other yelling
Someone always picked it up before me
BF1/V have too much fire in general

BFV isn't as bad
yeah i’m always on fire in bf1 lol
but randomly catching on fire is still annoying
BFV is amazing
Cant remember everything
It just needs content
^
You step on a pixel of fire in 1 and you're at 60 health
And no limited time modes 
i just want some nicer cosmetics tbh
I'm fine with the BFV content as is

@icy sluice right??? i kept getting set on fire by my own fucking flare and then suddenly no health
lol
I got 2k because I kept getting spawn killed
I was playing on the german side
Which ones that, the part with the crashed train?
On C
@green elm Demolisher has gloves
like i only use the Bren + semi autos as infy, so I don't really care for more guns
#metoo @solid hinge
and i have all the tanks I care for
I got flanked there though
@midnight nimbus mas44 tho
I like seeing lots of new guns
Soviet army in the game = more slavs will play the game 
I like seeing you @shrewd grove
I hated the ottoman empire in bf1

Same
that's a bruh moment right there
damn strider just shut you down @icy sluice
lmao
gross
Didnt like to play that operation
I always use the ft17
i hated the meta of bf1
Slavs r not tryhards
the St Chamond was the meta tank
Donno about russian slavs
Slavs are trolls Lmfao
there’s so many interesting guns and way more fun to be had but nope everyone decides to run smgs that took 0 skill to use
In csgo 
not that BFV SMGs are any more skillful
BF1 SMGs were much harder to actually use effectively
BFV has no meta
RSC SMG was the best one
hellriegel was pretty effective when magdumping tbh
Skill cannon tbh

i just couldn’t get over how weird it felt with the rsc tbh
RSC SMG is amazing
Tbh, tbh
Fun to use
Hellreigel was just overall ineffective
PRE PATCH 10-A HUNTER
Imagine using Hellreigel Defensive
imagine using anything other than model 1900
I hate jackfrags
rn i'm waiting for War Thunder to finish downloading.
straight up fake news outlet
double barrel for the win boys
I havn't played it in months
Heres a model 10a hunter flashback
https://youtu.be/VTY-Idx5rkY
@solid hinge ridiculous
That lock on aim assist lmao
that's not very long range at all
it could go farther
ugh the bf4 shotguns with crazy fast rof
Remember when Angry Joe and Delrith thought it was OP? @midnight nimbus
my biggest problem in bf1 tbh was the lmg with like 200 rounds and a telescopic sight
my goodness
Bf4 shotguns Locker 
yeah BF YouTubers are brainlets
And apparently Delrith is a bf4 veteran 
like the 1897 fires like 50% faster than the 10-A and has like 1-2m less OHK range
12G Auto was probably the best BF1 shotgun overall
Automatic m1897
unless you were good with 1900 Slug
Sometimes the sawed off had really good shots
too bad double barrel mode doesn't truly work properly
it just kicked too far upwards for the second shot to be worth a shit lol
doesn't fire both barrels at the same time
There's a double barrel in bf1? 
Ye
more like it fires one and then immediately another
Like drilling
Huh if I knew that I totally forgot it 
I miss BF3/4 shotguns so much 😢
I dont..
the Hawk being able to OHK to like 30m was good fun
yeah i prefer that particular thing stays dead
with the FLIR sight too
shotguns should not be dominating ar ranges lmao
they’re not all useless
USAS 12 with frags pre-nerf
you needed decent aim to ensure the midrange one shot
if your barrel is in their face you might get a 1hk
Drilling 
drilling is a sniper
I thought that it was the shotgun sniper?
How to use tanks on infantry in bfv
Shoot him with the mg,after shooting for too long and only doing 57 dmg blast him with the main gun
Drilling 3x when
i want irnv in bfv 
Where is my Frag Round Drilling 😤
yes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BvfABFaiBVo
yes I want a night vision scope in BFV
Sold for $5,750. The first US military night vision system used in active combat was the T3 Carbine system - an infrared light-amplifying scope and IR floodl...
yes pls

I wouldn't be surprised if they added it
lol
Tokarev
arisaka chika emote

@solid hinge I keep getting flanked by some useless ass medic with a suomi. Every 5 fucking minutes
F
I also do it
mounted machine guns are very strong in bfv
they were far far weaker in bf4 and 3
like pea shooters
Nerf smgs in firestorm dice a little bit
Yeah using Mounted MGs in 3 and 4 was just asking for a bad time. They were really good in 1 due to planes and zeppelins taking massive damage from them, now they're good against infantry.
They used to be shit, then you buffer them too much because dice doesn’t have a right amount, it either not enough or way too much
I could obliterate a Zeppelin entirely by myself with the Mounted MMGs, which was pretty ridiculous
I like how they are now though
Buff machine guns on planes against infantry
Nah
These dudes
Strider,
They have 3 valentine AAs on the first sector of Aerodrome BT and still can't beat us
Rip
Thanks

love
@solid hinge how do you not get flanked
Uhhhh
When i shot the flare i see enemies

Just don't die lol
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I can understand 10k
But 20k?? Wtfff
Howwww
<o
My controllers stop working every fucking day because I smash them against the wall
Because this game is bs
May 30th
i just punch my table when im angry..
So I have a new thing for the Commando Carbine. When people just don't know you're there...it DESTROYS.
If you're a sneaky fucker, and you play the game like Metal Gear Solid, use the Carbine.
ill say that that youre still better off using anything else
Well if you play aggressive, yeah.
But if you flank and destroy campers, carbine works.
anything will work though, hardly anyone uses sound effectively
You still flaring..
I'd rather kick my door down than use a stress ball
@solid hinge you still flaring in grind
Well not anymore since both of my controllers aren't fucking working
I just swear. 
???? I have working batteries in my controller yet my controller won't work
I rage quit far too often.
Maybe its because you smashed it
My wins is set as like 80+%.
But that's like...not at all correct.
And if anyone used that to judge me, I'd tell them to ignore it.
Yes, I am the cancer that swapped teams in BF1 every time my team was losing.
Some asshole in my squad was like snorting in his microphone
Have that a lot (teamm8s like that)
Obviously the snorting
K.
I don't understand people who can't just mute themselves for a few seconds
this is why push to talk is a thing
I dont understand people with mics on while they dont use it, but you do hear all their background sounds 
But seriously, it's far easier to do challenges when you're on the winning team, cause chances are if you're on the losing team, you're gonna have
1.)Teammates that don't know jackshit about pushing and just wait until the point is 100% clear (impossible) before they move up.
2.)Engagements that are like 5 on 1, with you being the 1.
3.)Flank routes totally covered by LMGs and rushing Assaults.
4.)Snipers that just head shot you the second you step into the open.
You know Push to Talk isn't an option on Console right?
I got a mic on console
Which I can turn off and on very easily and its the crappy one
fair enough
Which you get with your console
I always use push to talk on pc
Dont like to do challenges on a winning team either
Since the matches end too fast
i have my mic open
Having your mic open is fine as long as you turn your sensitivity up enough
ive never had complaints
I need a better mic to have it always open on PC
^
my friends complain about mechanical keyboard noise
Me too
every once in a while someone has a super loud mic that gets picked up with my mic and i have to turn them down
I don't even have clicky switches
I have that too lol
I don't mean a steam roll team.
nor do I pound on my keyboard that hard
If I'm on a steam roll, either side, I leave.
On my laptop
I'm not gonna fight 10 dudes over 1 kill.
but idt I care enough about gaming to upgrade my hardware anytime soon
What specs do you use for your valentine aa
None
I think I might need anger management therapy

LMLM
Is the Demolisher uniform only for support because it doesn't show up on my other classes
or actually RMLM
I did
case rounds suck now, don't use them
It's been like that since I bought the uniform when it came out @solid hinge
parachute flares are awesome
Yeah I heard 20mm was bad too
yeah, for both AAs, always go for slowest firing option
Thought so lol
DICE's tank designer is on something
won't let high RoF options be fun
same logic behind avoiding the autocannon
it sucks now
terrible against infy, which is the only thing light tanks are good for
what six tanks should I use? For allies I changed to the gun carrier, archer and valentine mk viii
on axis I only know that the tiger is good
I just like the Panzer IV because it looks nicer than the Tiger
Fun fact
only good tanks, ranked:
Valentine Mk8
Valentine Archer
Pz4
Tiger
don't use anything else
Late model IVs were often mistaken for tigers
Tiger if you need to play anti tank as Germans
Mk8 does everything
Archer does everything, but it's slightly less good against infy and slightly better against armor
Pz4 to wreck infy
what is pz4
Panzer IV
ok lol
gun carrier might be okay on panzerstorm
looks like I have the panzer IV at level 1 already. idk what specs are best
but that's the only map
I literally never use tanks or planes I just started
I'll DM you the symthic vehicle guide if you want
ok sounds good thanks
for all the optimal trees
Gun carrier should be replaced by archer
sure
Tiger, panzer iv and whatever
spec balance is really bad, so it's a huge help
@solid hinge ya I bought the archer
Does anyone play bf1 in here?
I wish I didn't stop playing so I didn't have to buy all these new guns and vehicles
Anyone?
@worthy yacht no I can't stand bf1
it makes me puke in my mouth and then spit it all over my pants
BF1 was gassed

it's nice that I finally got gold and mint on the 12g auto. the hard part is done now it's just a nice relaxing gold grind for the krag
the bolt snipers are ez for gold
yeah, now the Mosquito sucks
VA/VB are still decent
but too specialized
in comparison, the BF109 pretty much does everything
Have they fixed the hit box/projectile motion issues with tanks yet?
given how long it took to fix the ammo exploit
give them like 4 months 😂
British planes suck hard in comparison to German ones
German planes are just very good
assymetrical vehicles were a mistake
You know the only time I was ever able to shoot down full HP planes with an AA Tank was when they either focused me or hung around where I was?
How is that OP?
Just leave the AO.
FFS.
They're fine as is.
British planes just need to be better in comparison to German ones
AA slut
and German tanks need to be buffed
I have noticed though, that the difference between the heavy, slower rounds and the light, faster ones it that the heavy rounds DO indeed hit harder, but are harder to get to a plane.
I think the Tiger I should do more damage
the Valentine Mk8 can kill a Tiger faster than the Tiger can kill it
and it's faster
more ammo
So heavy rounds wreck heavy fighters and bombers, but struggle to keep up with fighters, while the light rounds ruin fighters but struggle to properly kill bombers and heavy fighters.
better against infy
Valentine is a glass cannon though.
not really
it can kill a Tiger before the Tiger can kill it
German tanks have less DPS all around
Yeah but I meant what if the Tiger gets the drop first?
Like gets behind it and slams rounds into it's rear?
then you can move (you have better maneuverability)
Plus you have to realize, you NEED to focus on your ammo types from the Specializations.
Instant repair
also people don't get behind you in breakthrough 😉
that Commado gun is pure trash
You will outdamage it
just tried it
Tiger I, to me is only good when using heat t
ammo types are memes
If you're relying solely on your standard ammo, you're doing it wrong.
standard HE ammo is all around the best
@tame bridge did you use it aggressively? Like running into objectives with it?
Tiger AT shell is solid
Also remember, the main thing Tiger has over other tanks is RANGE. The only things that can match the range is the Archer and the Stug with long barrel.
Germans have no competitors for the Valentine Archer
Valentine Mk8 has better velocity than the Tiger
Heat t will two shot Churchills I think
yeah pretty much
Why do you not xp unless you finish the match
stug gets out DPSed pretty hard by Archer and Tiger
Okay well you have to realize tanks are like guns. Every one of them has a role and a niche to fill.
low RoF
yeah, and many tanks don't actually have a niche
bc balance is terrible
You can't use one tank and expect it to play like another. IE Stug isn't going to be exactly like the Archer.
vehicle balance is the worst of any modern BF
there is just zero reason to use the stug
You can use Valentine AA and play it as anything
AT, AA, anti infantry
It does literally everything nicely
I just checked the game, and it says the Stug is far more suited to DEFENSE than offense.

Where as the Archer is the opposite.
yeah, but its stats aren't even good for defense 😂
It's offensive more than defensive.
Archer is better for defense
you can back up fast
spot everything
best anti armor DPS in the game
mad RoF
and it's also very serviceable against infy
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/bg4ix8/squad_conquest_returns_to_battlefield_v/eliaevz?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Braddock just said that in Chapter 4 we'll get more maps revised like it happened to Panzerstorm
It backs up so fast you literally see people driving it backwards on BT to retreat
yeah that's what I do
it's fast af backwards
faster than most tanks are while going forward
Oh yeah I just realized they only half fixed the being able to move during "Waiting for Players" in a tank.
yeah I still move during that time
So you can't back up anymore, but you can still move by pressing the turn key.
so I can set up faster
You can't move anywhere, it's not going to help.
yeah I hold W and spam AD-AD
But you can still do it.
Wiggle has always been in the game
you can go forward
like on Panzerstorm BT I can almost be at the objective by the game starts
It's so slow though.
just hold W
spam AD-AD as fast as possible
it's decently fast
you get into good spots way faster than intended
on Arras Rush in Hannut, I can be next to the infantry by round start
before any of the German tanks get there
So what did they do to the planes? Besides the physics change?
lol with the RoF upgrade, Archer fires almost as fast as the light tanks, and each shell does almost as much damage as a Tiger shell
kek
I'm really liking the MP28 after trying it a bit more and putting a nydar on it
Also planes are gone
Don't even try

meanwhile stug does less damage per shot than the Archer and fires as fast as the Tiger
good game DICE
and the stug requires Pak40 to be good
Look...how would YOU balance it? And don't say "Make the tanks the same" like make the Archer and the Stug the same.
i'd make tanks close to the same
38t and Staghound are balanced against each other
because they're analogues
Honestly all they really need is tiny differences between them like the SMGs do imo
dude look at what happened in BF4 with RSP
vehicles were near identical
with very marginal differences
you had people setting up US v US because the Russian attack heli isn't as good
Y’all still going on about vehicle balance
or RU v RU tanking bc the Abrams sucks is marginally worse
guns need reworked spec trees, vehicles need them even more
Spec trees are fine as is
Spotting Camera taking off main bombs
But I wouldn’t be opposed to adding to them
not rly
vehicles have 12 possible spec paths, and only one is truly viable for most vehicles
some vehicles have 2-3 good spec paths
gud design
The illusion of choice, just like 3 and 4
yeah
also some upgrades like pineapple wrench are a straight downgrade in practice
The ju88c seems to have 3 actually different set ups
kind of like how slings and swivels was a downgrade on launch
I mean they could add to them but the ones currently available aren’t bad
I feel like they kinda missed something unique by putting in the MP34 and not the 35
I wish the MP34 had a different damage model
I used to think the mp34 was the best smg
I think it's the best SMG for doing an actual medic's job
but not the best SMG for doing SMG things
I’d argue MP40 and Sten for best smgs all around
I wish it had the AG 2x scope
I hope we get more scopes in general
MP40/Sten are a perfect example of why we need reworked spec trees
same exact options
Sten is just less accurate and easier to use
but they're essentially the same gun
yes
Mp40 and sten become the same gun
add a suppressor spec option to the Sten
It's like faceoff featuring Nicholas Cage
it’s so that you can play accurate guns for each faction
and since the Sten is designed as the ease of use gun, give it maximized options for being very easy to use
I like how BO4 does attachments
how you can have laser sight 1 and laser sight 2
BFV spec trees need that
laser sight 2 is cheese
like Recoil Buffer II can remove your recoil pattern
I’m fine if they just add some extra spec options but if they start removing old ones or moving them around I’ll be annoyed
combine some spec options, and move everything around
Nah
there should be pistol specs
guns give you 8 possible loadouts, but most guns only have 1 best combination
atrocious
Better than bf1
I don't use any recommendations for gun specs I just use what I like
oh also
How
there were a few bad variants, but not many
That makes no sense
why my bV crashes after enable Ray tracing and direct 12
I was using a tank and someone asked how I got my best community in the world emblem so I got to flex on them 😎
I use at least 2 variants of Turner SMLE and G43, as well as the MG42 and various sniper rifles
I only use one sniper with one spec
G43 really only has one
like detachable mags should be standard on a lot of guns
Nah it doesn’t
well not one spec but one spec combo you know what I mean
because not picking it is just dumb
barrel bedding is an idiot trap on SARs and SLRs
No I use self loaded because extra accuracy specs
there's a ton of useless specs
extra accuracy specs don't do anything for you
at the ranges they're useful, you literally can't see anything
I remember the old jackfrag and levelcap videos
"I use accuracy because it's useful!"

They do fine for me
the standard accuracy on SARs is good to 140+m
you see no benefit to barrel bedding until then
guys I have 69 hours played now
but on automatics, barrel bedding is probably one of the best specs in the game
it's crutch for some guns
useless on others
I really don’t see your point as to how there’s less options in bfv
by giving players choice over what upgrades to pick, you create a few "OP" options and tons of "UP" options
in BF1, these choices are made for you, by designers
so there aren't many OP or UP options
There’s really no “OP” options as far as I can tell
which upgrade is barrel bedding
better accuracy while standing or moving?
technically both
Detachable mags on Turner would be nice, but then I'm giving up the very useful hip fire upgrade
better accuracy while standing improves your moving accuracy
i'd say both Turner upgrades are good
Yeah
Yep
Turner is one of the better balanced guns
are you really not gonna pick detachable AG m/42???
no
if you can aim well
it looks like a sniper m1a1 to me
m1a1 is better imo
it's my second most used weapon
really good if you can hit heads at a distance while clicking fast
it deletes people
"clicking"
the anti-MMG if you will
Ag is bad damage output in general with respect to the mag size so G43 is better
firing at 450 rpm while managing aim and movement on console 
AG doesn't have recoil either
and has better headshot potential
it's the highest skill ceiling gun in the game
But less powerful damage per bullet and the same bullets in the clip/mag
reminds me of the bf1 model 8 tbh
That’s a base gun difference tho and has nothing to do with the specs
In terms of specs I’d take either one
no, but I'm saying there's no reason to not go left side with the AG
another example: are you really not gonna pick the 30 round mag for the M1A1?
or RRRR/RRRL Bren?
Point is there should be a debate over what side to go with rather than "who would use that lol"
that's why there needs to be a spec rework
even 3-4 good options out of 8 would be nice
and specs would help some guns be more relevant
Uh I go RLLR for Bren
y
Because I can use it well
you give up everything that makes the Bren the best at what it's meant for
Not really
mediocre semi aggressive LMG vs best in game accurate automatic weapon
I mean if it really makes that much of a difference there’s a skill gap somewhere for the user tbh
HOLY SHIT
20K IN 15 MINS
For Lewis I go RRRL but I’d have no prob going RLLL or RLLR
yeah, Lewis has well balanced specs
MG42 has nearly all options viable
also there's the issue where many guns in the same class have the same specs
like MMG spec balance is decent
Incendiary rounds is garbo
Quick reload has very little effect
yeah
like VGO gets overshadowed, and could benefit from different specs
i'd argue Darne isn't all that either
shotgun specs are pretty shit
right side Drilling isn't worth touching
SLUGS
right side drilling is memetier
it's obvious they had no idea what to do for some weapon's specs
so they just put in whatever
For nearly every recon weapon besides RSC and Model there’s reasons for going either side of specs
I wish we had 10 round 900 RPM FG42

Actually we need the 900 RPM spec for the FG42
yes, so support can compete with SARs
Raising its recoil to a tremendous OUCH to the shoulder
I wouldn't mind 720 RPM by default as well
Meh I’d rather have a mag increase
It ain't it chief
i'd use either
Replace the last spec options with mag or rpm increase
10 round 900 RPM FG would be crazy fun
I don't think the FG42 mag were ever made more than 20
10 round is basically 1 kill and reload
20 is plenty for 2 people already
I don’t even have the last spec bought because it seems minimal
nah lightened stock is really good
bayonet is minimal?
arguably shouldn't be in the game
Bayonet is minimal to me yes
